#balance

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lofty depot
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lfr/norm/hero = 20%, myth = 50?

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more like or

loud kettle
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30/40

lofty depot
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i dont trust u

normal pilot
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ya 10% per

lofty depot
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actually that seems sus

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cuz thats here

normal pilot
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if it was alwasy 50% you'd be using lfr boots over other mythic boots

lofty depot
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wasted incarn

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dont have it for all of this at 18

true viper
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To be fair thats the hardest boss in m+ and the next 2 minutes ur just walking a cart not attacking enemies

serene sun
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ah yeah it was hectic af at the end of the fight was worried about a wipe and wanted to get some dmg out

true viper
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so getting out of the boss asap is good for your healer

lofty depot
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yea tell the other rats to do more damage

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stupid elesham

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oh ur dk is frost

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fricc him too

serene sun
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lol yeah leave the ST to him

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I didn't follow the feedback here

lucid olive
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that makes sense

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arctic struggles with being coherent

lofty depot
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but then i noticed u used incarn a minute later

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which mean u had that incarn ready already and used it randomly at the end of that foe

lofty depot
serene sun
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ah, gotcha. thanks for taking the time to look through it. much appreciated

ionic oak
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who got a runescape clan i can join

lofty depot
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people join clans?

stuck meadow
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do you guys think dinnar vendor

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is going to go away next tuesday?

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or in the week of the next season

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did a split clear for the new alts and stuff but wanted to wait for vault to see what i buy

lofty depot
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I assume it goes away Aug 5

stuck meadow
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fuck

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prob trusting the rng god then

ionic oak
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what you trying to take

stuck meadow
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dont trust buy it all

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i have 2 druids

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with dinnar i can only get 3 itens

delicate perch
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how'd you mess up twice

errant flint
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babys first ce, retiring the hunter for sure now

stuck meadow
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i just like the class cant do anything

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just trying to have both full bis

lucid olive
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What's a bis

cloud plover
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a weapon that I don't have

ionic oak
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booty is shaking

stuck meadow
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probably taking

stuck meadow
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bis/gally ring and trinket

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and pray for house of cards or mug in vault

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kezan prob insane during these 8 minute fights during splits right

lucid olive
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Think you just swap out kezan with m0 trinket

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Or m+ trinket

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M0 gear goes to like 701 or something since it's champ track

lofty depot
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ezpz

lofty depot
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but u dont want to use runed on it

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kidna doesnt matter, cuz u can get done with runed in 2 weeks iirc

cloud plover
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so hyped to grind m+ again

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until I realize I play shadow and that shit is miserable to m+ with

stuck meadow
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its gonna be good

calm ibex
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It’s brainless

digital berry
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Also dmg less

cloud plover
calm ibex
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Main boomy

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More fun

cloud plover
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yeah that's not challenging

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happening

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idk how it Auto corrected to challenging

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crazy

calm ibex
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It’s not challenging

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Shadow priest is

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Reroll lmao

cloud plover
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no ty

calm ibex
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I tried

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LMAO

cloud plover
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balance druid isn't challenging but they're challenged

calm ibex
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Yeah true

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The tism isn’t related to me playing boomy but it is WHY I play boomy

cloud plover
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it's why I play 10 classes

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trust

ionic oak
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yall think dev gets hit or nah?

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asking for a friend

cerulean summit
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so is boomy not going to be that great anymore?

ionic oak
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it'll be alive

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its gonna chill

calm ibex
cerulean summit
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wut?

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it was incredible this season

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in m+

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I'm referring to m+, should have specified.

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in raid you right

calm ibex
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You didn’t specify sorry man

ionic oak
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we auto assume raid

vital hound
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m+ is a fake mode

ionic oak
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i made an ass of u and me

vital hound
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it also wasnt amazing

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it did big dam

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but had 3 buttons

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dogshit

ionic oak
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you didnt like the engaging loop

wild dune
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big numbies = amazing

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duh

ionic oak
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of... wrath wrath. starfire till your fingers went numb?

vital hound
ionic oak
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now we got no engaging gamplay or numbers

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we played ourselves

vital hound
ionic oak
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i wont see

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lol

vital hound
ionic oak
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NO! stop

vital hound
ionic oak
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canceled wow sub last week

wild dune
vital hound
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gz

ionic oak
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but blizz knows ima be back

wild dune
vital hound
ionic oak
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5.6 you say

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hmmmm

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now if we can just get timings in raid to favor us

vital hound
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(we won't)

lofty depot
vital hound
lofty depot
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were so back

lofty depot
vital hound
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so fkn back

lofty depot
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ew

vital hound
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tertiary day

lofty depot
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thats big

vital hound
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i hope these work next season

ionic oak
lofty depot
ionic oak
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i see

gentle patio
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So what do we play when boomkin sucks

ionic oak
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damn yall ready for all this foot traffic we gonna get next week?

ionic oak
gentle patio
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Fuck rs

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Am i going rest or shadow

ionic oak
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... offer rescinded

gentle patio
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Resto

ionic oak
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resto gonna get hit

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cuz too good

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source: trust me bro

lofty depot
gentle patio
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M+

lofty depot
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fotm rerollers smh

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love to see it actually

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wave bye the the rats

gentle patio
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It would be the first time in 16 years that i rolled fotm

ionic oak
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damn a mage player said that you in a druid discord

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thats tough

lofty depot
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ill have u know im a gamer

ionic oak
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teach e

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me*

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im mad i replaced my 69 on muz

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mugz

digital berry
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That’s crazy

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Parse posting at 2 am

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When the big guns are sleeping

ionic oak
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we feel safe

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right now

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we need more people to post message to push the screenshots up and away

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ki ki ki. oi oi oi

digital berry
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I can post mine but I don’t wanna be rude

ionic oak
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bless

digital berry
loud kettle
lofty depot
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maybe next tier

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i was good once

digital berry
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As if you’ll be touching balance with a 10 foot pole next tier

lofty depot
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bet i wont?

ionic oak
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damn i sucked

lofty depot
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i mean if i kept playing mage maybe i do more

ionic oak
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nah i dont think arctic fgonna play boomkin

lofty depot
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but i cba

ionic oak
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hayes it for sure

lofty depot
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uhhh i mean i dont like playing mage tbf

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i do it because we need buff sometimes

ionic oak
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you guys didnt have a mage?

lofty depot
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when we were doing queen rekills we had mage and hunter missing raid multiple times

ionic oak
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ohhhh

lofty depot
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i then said i would swap, and we recruit 2-3 at the start of tier... so then maybe by the end of tier i dont have to play mage

errant flint
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When do raid teams run out of hunters?

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Wild

ionic oak
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lol and mages yeah

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thats what im saying

lofty depot
errant flint
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We’ve had a mage shortage for a bit. Only a single mage for like 3 tiers now.

lofty depot
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we also had a hunter that would do really good damage

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but actively troll mechanics

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so i pushed him out this tier

ionic oak
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on purpose or nah

lofty depot
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i mean

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i felt on purpose

errant flint
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Oh yea nah cant do that idc about your damage if they are griefing the pull

ionic oak
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lol it alayws does

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hunters am i right?

errant flint
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Terrorism

ionic oak
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seems liek they wanted to share the circle with you

lofty depot
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yea, so i shared the boot

zealous dome
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Hey, im struggling to pick a main for s3. Im choosing between resto or balance druid. My question is would i be able to comfortably push m+ if i wanted to use my resto gear for the boomkin aswell?

lofty depot
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resto is better

ionic oak
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one of those people who arent really looking at their positioning but they also always want to be moving

lofty depot
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uhh gear wise i mean u just farm gear with different stats

errant flint
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People not knowing their positions causes wipes

lofty depot
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idk what stats resto likes anymore

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it used to be haste

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which next tier bamkin doesnt really prefer

errant flint
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Take the TP with you griefer bye

ionic oak
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that hunter would 100% walk over mines. tunneling boss moving without looking on mugz

lofty depot
ionic oak
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would have been funny

lofty depot
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it was stop adad spamming u stupid fuck

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problem

ionic oak
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LOL

lofty depot
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in transition would randomly stand on mine

errant flint
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If on stix yea that same behavior shows up elsewhere

ionic oak
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he said "why are the markers here?"

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boom

lofty depot
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he then just couldnt communicate on OAB

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we todl him to call what coins he was doing

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and his brain couldnt handle

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very hard

errant flint
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Left right middle very hard

ionic oak
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flattened folks on purpise

errant flint
thorn nebula
ionic oak
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yalls fault for not seeing big line

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smh my head

lofty depot
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blud who is "we"

errant flint
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Is resto still 20 times the apm hot spam?

lofty depot
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oh thats my goat

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shit

ionic oak
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what you call me?

potent cargo
lofty depot
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damn clecia

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what a rise

thorn nebula
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Lmao I played arcane last season

potent cargo
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resto can be some piano keyboard shit tho if you're doing high effort dps

thorn nebula
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Check out Spilean

errant flint
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Ok “cant” not a typo lol

lofty depot
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did better on arcane this season when not playing

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than u did boomkin when not playing

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surely that means something

zealous dome
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I see thanks for the feedback

ionic oak
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damn we lost another t the mages

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smh my head

lofty depot
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well no, he played boomkin this tier too

zealous dome
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Yeah but i kinda like having a lot of buttons

ionic oak
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et tu brute?

past tide
lofty depot
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yea he killed gally on bamkin

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big chad

ionic oak
lofty depot
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chad behavior

past tide
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2 fingers

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2 buttons

lofty depot
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2 dicks

past tide
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2 girls

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1 cup

lofty depot
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1 cup?

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yea

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KEKW

ionic oak
past tide
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Im taking a poo rn

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So its fitting

ionic oak
lofty depot
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3 yellow numbys

ionic oak
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one day i too will have a yellow number.

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sike

errant flint
ionic oak
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they said you just need 2

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for 2 buttons

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rejuv

errant flint
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1 jar went wild

past tide
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And rg

ionic oak
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random wild growth in there somewhere?

past tide
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30 rejuv cpm 20 rg cpm

ionic oak
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i should learn resto.. .just in case

errant flint
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OS is a great way to stay off the bench

ionic oak
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i was motw this tier

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it was chill

thorn nebula
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This tier did suck, got sat on a lotta the challenging bosses cause boomie was and is swamp tier in raid right now

potent cargo
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and will continue to be

past tide
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GASLIGHT ALERT

potent cargo
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and has been

thorn nebula
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Hopefully tuning on Friday puts us in a better spot 🥺
But based on the numbers at least we aren’t literal 2nd from last like we are right now

past tide
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🚨

errant flint
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I was in for every kill bc we only had 23 people

errant flint
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Except stix I got a rekill for that

ionic oak
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he knows something we dont

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inside scoop

potent cargo
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if we do max boss dps you can maybe get a spot but why bring boomy when garbage snap dmg, ramp up time, can't survive for shit

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when u gotta survive u do 0 dps

past tide
potent cargo
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xD

past tide
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Moonkin dead bro

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So bad

lofty depot
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very bad

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fake numby

past tide
ionic oak
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see? is it real or nah

lofty depot
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will be in the pits tomorrow

ionic oak
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who knows

lofty depot
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under feral u go

errant flint
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I wonder in the past, have the devs ever thought “wow this spec isnt doing good. *nerfs more”.

lofty depot
thorn nebula
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Saw the sims earlier - we’re better than we thought we were throughout the last week for sure.
Still crazy disparity from the top classes and the mid classes though. I was meaning tuning in general, not necessarily buffs to us but nerfs to other outliers to shorten the band

errant flint
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Actually true

past tide
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Dimensius will be a spread cleave fight and it will take extra astral damage

lofty depot
errant flint
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Ok with being mid bc I played ret before the rework

past tide
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They should make a cool fight like that

lofty depot
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and i dont trust hte hunters sim

past tide
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Imagine a boss that takes extra x type of damage every couple phases or mechanics

lofty depot
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also yea... fight timings could just be shit for us and get fucked based on that

past tide
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Would be cool

lofty depot
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or hte adds could die in 5 seconds

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who knows

errant flint
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If MM/BM and that other spec are incorrect: nerfs incoming

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Early ish sims does chkm have any bugs in raidbots?

ionic oak
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hunter sims lok close to what azor was putting out there

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look*

normal pilot
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you can bet many sims have bugs

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ppl looking at the chart are morons

livid jay
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seems like a good time to be a mage

errant flint
potent cargo
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14 destro lock

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and dh

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for chaos dmg stack

ionic oak
normal pilot
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at least whoever's making those charts are getting some internet clout points. the ppl looking at them are just being dumb for nothing

errant flint
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I like to circulate them and cause upset

past tide
past tide
lofty depot
errant flint
ionic oak
thorn nebula
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Crazy how bad our 2pc is

lofty depot
errant flint
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From the little I know I think the tier set needs a rework

lofty depot
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just wait til u see it vs the old 4p KEKW

errant flint
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How you gonna nerf my deer people?

past tide
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I dont consider myself part of the boomies so theres no “our”

lofty depot
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the set alone doesnt need a rework

past tide
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Death to the chickens

ionic oak
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damn i remember when mattiu was one of us

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one of us

past tide
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Boomies fall resto rises

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Resto druid supremacy

eager raft
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no

past tide
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Death to the ferals

eager raft
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yes

errant flint
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Need talent buffs if theyre gonna dumpster the tier set to do so little % damage overall

ionic oak
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blizz dont believe in giving after taking

errant flint
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True sadgers

lofty depot
errant flint
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I do like to see how much the tier set is doing for all dps specs in comparison to their base talents for the spec.

ionic oak
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thats not true. i take it back. they give me the D after taking ma money

errant flint
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At least get dinner first k

ionic oak
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no wine and dine here

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not blizz

thorn nebula
# lofty depot surely that means something

also last tier we did splits significantly later than this tier - all those parses are meaningless cause I didn't play boomy at all most of the tier and my ilvl for all that stuff was like ~10-15 below the top. in DF i was like 10-40 range for the xpac - I'm a long time boomie player just swapped last tier because of how hopeless boomie was 😢
Crazily I did boomie this tier when we are even worse off than we were last. We were hopeful it would be better though I remember which is why I chose to play it

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We're still paying for how strong we were Venthyr

lofty depot
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thats a loy of yapping for not rank 40 boomkin parses

ionic oak
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lol

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"i ain't reading all that. im happy for you tho, or sorry that happened"

lofty depot
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and yea, u shouldve seen the people complaining boomkin was in the middle of that funny list

ionic oak
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if we survived this tier. we can put up with it next tier right?

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brightside?

thorn nebula
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eh he just was saying i had a huge come up this tier like I was bad at boomie last tier - just explaining that isn't the case, i just didn't play boomie last tier

lofty depot
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u dont come in here that often or maybe just watch from a far like ur first message

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but uhh, i like the banter

ionic oak
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if you bad and those were your actual parses. im dogshit

lofty depot
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to banter, and the banter

lofty depot
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then again, im shit 🙂

ionic oak
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oh for sure

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haha

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lol

lofty depot
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people ask for advice and i say wrong opener

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w strat honestly

crisp scaffold
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No more tuning I guess

ionic oak
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never give up. theres still hope

crisp scaffold
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September tuning gonna be lit

livid jay
ionic oak
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at the top of meters?

livid jay
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Gallywix boss damage

royal zenith
lofty depot
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They can do some hotfixes during the week. But yea there likely isn't anymore tuning

royal zenith
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if you can do add damage, you can also do boss damage

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stop coping

lofty depot
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Would be rather funny if they buffed our 2p

royal zenith
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start logging

livid jay
royal zenith
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pay him to chill down

lofty depot
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Yes u can

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So add damage faster noob

livid jay
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impossible

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couldnt get above 97 with that guy deleting all add packs even with pre starfalling and everything

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cringe

royal zenith
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you do realize the graph will look the same for every class...

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wait are you guys getting 2nd set off adds? SUS

livid jay
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this log is from early june

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afterwards i didnt bother going add dmg anymore

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cause ye we stopped getting those and it was fucked anyways

livid jay
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that evoker, me and another boomkin are stealing all the add damage

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others are waay flatter

royal zenith
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you dont have any warriors with hands?

livid jay
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my warrior is my gm and he uses hekili

royal zenith
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aha

livid jay
sudden flame
merry ibex
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does it matter if you trinket before CA?

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like house of cards for example

jaunty blaze
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You want to use it with your ca and not before

twin lotus
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cant wait for the buffs tomorrow

crisp scaffold
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Tomrrow on 1st of September

dreamy cove
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2p is 1% gain??
1 more week for big buffs

serene elk
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we really take big buff or we hope?

twin lotus
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yeah should be tomorrow

hollow quarry
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a balanced druid build?

jaunty blaze
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Tomorrow for sure

sudden flame
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fake sim

royal zenith
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it's funny how fast that sim got spread

rich jewel
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sandbagging detected

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alert

dire osprey
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whats fake? havent looked at it yet

sudden flame
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plus everyone got 100k added to there sims with a bug

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with the reshi wrap effect boots

sudden flame
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they asked lil bro

vital hound
snow yoke
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Give it to me straight boys, is boomkin looking okay for m+? 😄

lofty depot
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No

snow yoke
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Cry_sip What's wrong?

lofty depot
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It doesn't do damage

river depot
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Everything is fine, buff tomorrow Copium

pallid bay
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boomkin is fine

lofty depot
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Dsune or eightsune hm

snow yoke
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Okay so boomkin is fine and not fine at the same time, with buffs tomorrow hmmNod

dire osprey
plucky valley
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Gg it’s over

jaunty blaze
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Buffs tomorrow

plucky valley
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The buff is removing balance from the game so that way we can’t suck

lofty depot
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No buffs

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We're already buff

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Fuck m+, grow up

jaunty blaze
dire osprey
lofty depot
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Play anything else

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Go outside

dire osprey
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those keys and arenas aint gonna play themselves

jaunty blaze
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Remove m+

pallid bay
royal zenith
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Listen to me instead

lofty depot
dire osprey
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dont listen to anyone with ™ in their name either

royal zenith
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What the helly…

lofty depot
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They provide content for people to do, if no one does the content maybe they won't provide it

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Imagine if people didn't raid.... Would the story continue?

dire osprey
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well pvp is still alive so PepeLaugh

lofty depot
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Imagine if we didn't kill the jailor, azeroth be dead

jaunty blaze
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Wouldnt that be great

bleak jungle
jaunty blaze
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Wrong

lofty depot
bitter hornet
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How do you sim Balance for M+ scenarios?

lofty depot
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U dont

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🤝

dire osprey
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m+ hate is crazy lowkey

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depleting keys with the homies

lofty depot
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  1. U can learn how to do an MDT sim (isn't hard).
  2. Most of the time the difference in stat swaps aren't a big deal. Trinkets can change based on target count but hasn't been an issue with just simming a normal 1t5m sim.
  3. The apl isn't made for the MDT sim so there's inconsistencies with CD usage. So doing said sim isnt perfect
dire osprey
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getting called slurs so dark they will literally absorb the light if they come near because you missed a kick

lofty depot
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  1. Just put on some gear and slam ezpz
lofty depot
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not my problem stupid fdk

dire osprey
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thats been my strategy

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maybe i wasnt the one on the receiving end

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i mean what

royal zenith
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damn that's really edgy milky

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please tell us more

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!

dire osprey
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because you asked

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but maybe another day

balmy echo
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Buffs tomorrow?

jaunty blaze
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Definitely

lofty depot
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We're buffed

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Don't need more

scenic mist
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fix 2p

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or i tell mom

sonic surge
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seem to see two sets of popular talents for m gally, which one is bis for now with all the free player power handouts by blizz?

round field
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Probably the right

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Orbital and the one under touch are for sure not worth it

vital hound
round field
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Mby if you have like no padders

vital hound
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you could apply to liquid with that shit

sonic surge
fossil hemlock
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The choice between those 2 just seem to be "do you want to help on adds or do you want to tunnel boss"?

round field
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Not much value if adds dont live

sonic surge
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add damage

round field
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Ur the padder

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Gg..

sudden flame
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🤮

scarlet tapir
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is ur evoker playing with 1 hand by chance

sonic surge
sonic surge
sudden flame
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not padding sus

royal zenith
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feral player just mad he can't pad himself

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dw about it

sonic surge
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i mean all im doing is starfalling while wrath'ing gally, im too lazy to even starfire em

obsidian girder
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wth is the rest of the dps doing then

sudden flame
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not even trying to deny it

sonic surge
round field
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Prog???

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Season has been over for months lilbro

sudden flame
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race to world last pog

obsidian girder
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yes some still prog it

royal zenith
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you close to a kill devilz?

round field
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Stop slacking

sudden flame
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im routing for you

royal zenith
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RWL Pogott

round field
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Rwl always banger content

sudden flame
#

you know im a previous rwl winner

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abberrus tier

royal zenith
#

you mean in the past

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previous would be nerubar

sudden flame
#

true but i am very proud of it

midnight bough
#

Is this the guy in hoa right before last boss that sucks everyone really hard?

obsidian girder
#

i got jailer mythic on the last day before fated started.. feelsbad

loud kettle
#

Thats a normal mob in first area

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Oh no i lied

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Was thinking of castigators

obsidian girder
#

the collectors are still in the first area

loud kettle
#

Oh i did have the correct mob then

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I didnt remember them having voicelines

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Inquisitor sigar is the miniboss

obsidian girder
#

i only remember them cause of the annoying siphon when it was a curse

sonic surge
round field
#

My condolences

obsidian girder
#

you progressed it right now??

royal zenith
#

congrats

obsidian girder
sonic surge
#

did i do good friends

scenic mist
#

gz

sonic surge
scenic mist
digital berry
#

Raid world last approaching ?

obsidian girder
#

next week too i think

sonic surge
obsidian girder
#

they have untill raid release right?

sonic surge
#

i wasnt taking risky moves to get a parse

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literally stopped casting multiple times to be safe

digital berry
scenic mist
sonic surge
#

i was sweating because im bad

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and i was nervous

obsidian girder
#

is your logs public or private?

sonic surge
scenic mist
#

in some progress scenarios you would voluntarily lose some dps for the cause

obsidian girder
#

pff. mine are probably worse

sonic surge
#

was soothing, stopped dps to cross blue circles safely, ran out to res someone far etc

jade flume
#

If u dont get rank 1 u failed

scenic mist
#

vortex the bomb

jade flume
#

Thats how it works

sonic surge
scenic mist
#

is the big clutch

obsidian girder
#

vortex the bomb wuut?

scenic mist
royal zenith
sonic surge
scenic mist
#

bomb is affected by vortex

sonic surge
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so i just said fuck it and stopped doing it

lofty depot
scenic mist
obsidian girder
#

huh.. didnt know that. as my guild never mentioned it ever

lofty depot
#

Hmm

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Bunch of rats

scenic mist
obsidian girder
lofty depot
royal zenith
#

it's not really an insane requirement

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it just makes it easier

scenic mist
#

yeah it's just a nice way to imrpove pull consistency

obsidian girder
#

tbf my first kill i was the test dummy for boosts. so i was just dead pepelaugh

royal zenith
#

fancy way of saying you got boosted!!

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almost new patch

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crazy

lofty depot
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And u can do things week 0

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Big pog

west wren
#

Does anyone happen to know if next week will the mythic 0 be a daily or weekly reset ?

royal zenith
#

they changed it back to weekly

west wren
#

Ahh got it yanks

royal zenith
#

you calling me a yank?!

lofty depot
#

He's not a yank

royal zenith
#

the horror

lofty depot
#

Oh God

delicate perch
royal zenith
#

nah...

drifting nova
#

easy assumption

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carry on

stuck meadow
#

good morning any good news?

round field
#

Go back to bed

lofty depot
ionic oak
#

theres still hope. dont give uo

#

Up*

lofty depot
#

What u hoping for

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Cuz u ain't getting tuning

ionic oak
#

Well at least I’ll have the “Ima still beat you on the meters” mini game

lofty depot
#

Type shit

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Unless they're demo

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U get bodied by them

ionic oak
#

lol for reals.

digital berry
#

Demo and mm better get nerfed more cause that shit is insane

ebon plover
#

They won’t

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not until race to world first is over

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then they might

ionic oak
#

Yall staying boomkins or nah

ebon plover
#

Probably not tho. BM hunter was insanely op the entirety of bfa

digital berry
#

I am doing my part to show blizz how dogshit we are and playing balance

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Balance is the only class not allowed to do damage

ionic oak
#

Fuck it we ball

digital berry
#

Latest sims aren’t THAT atrocious

sudden flame
#

5.4 mil is not that bad

digital berry
#

I saw a 5.7 floating around

loud kettle
#

boots have been fixed

sudden flame
#

that one is fake

ionic oak
#

Arctic says fake numbers

digital berry
#

Damn it

scarlet tapir
sudden flame
#

yeah everyone is

digital berry
#

1 mill off is insane numbers

scarlet tapir
#

could be worse

ionic oak
#

5.4 wouldnt be bad. Only 1 m behind locks

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Damn i am slow

lofty depot
#

He's also gonna take drink off the sims that have it

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Probably sit at 5.5 or 5.4

digital berry
#

And hopefully if they fix dryad surges we can squeeze a bit more

ionic oak
#

Right next to our feral brothers and sisters

lofty depot
#

Wouldn't hold ur breath

ionic oak
#

It is what it is.

digital berry
#

There’s no way they intended for the 2p to be THAT bad

ionic oak
#

Yeah by design

lofty depot
#

There's plenty of specs that don't wear new tier til 4p

#

It's not an uncommon thing

sudden flame
#

^

digital berry
#

Dryad surges not benefitting from anything is pretty wild tho no

normal pilot
#

not particularly no

#

there's no real consistency on summoned pets getting affected by the player's buffs

lucid olive
#

smh

lofty depot
ionic oak
#

Arctic throwing us

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Under the bus?

lofty depot
#

Above the bus

lucid olive
#

fckn orange name rat

digital berry
#

Arctic the reason why people call us sandbaggers

lofty depot
#

Don't think u know what sandbagger means

loud kettle
#

i hate orange names

lucid olive
#

he's not wrong

digital berry
#

Out here tweaking the numbers

lofty depot
#

That's not what that means

lucid olive
#

we're saying that we're not good then arctic sends fake sim with bigger number

digital berry
#

Arctic 🤝 tettles

lucid olive
#

now people think we're sandbagging for saying we're not good

lofty depot
lucid olive
#

smh

ionic oak
#

Smh his head

lucid olive
#

call your best friend ulria and have him re-run the keeper sim with astral antenna over energy drink

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and also re-run the EC sim

#

keeper should lose a little and EC gains a little

loud kettle
#

astral antenna?

lofty depot
#

Well he said he was gonna run it again

loud kettle
#

unfortunate if thats ur 2nd best

royal zenith
#

@torn wren the sim is fake, please fix

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

But then the boot thing happened

royal zenith
#

There you go

loud kettle
#

thats like 6th for cat

lofty depot
#

He knows its fake

royal zenith
#

it aint fixed though

lucid olive
royal zenith
#

that's the 2nd part of my msg

lucid olive
#

with most of the PTR items

lofty depot
#

Ok, there was other shit wrong with sims so he didnt fix it yet

loud kettle
#

is lfr forge bis for u guys too

lucid olive
#

havent checked

loud kettle
#

it would be bis for cat even if it was only 678 ilvl 💀

lucid olive
#

i doubt it though

lofty depot
#

Does the mythic one scale down faster?

lucid olive
#

priory is up there

loud kettle
#

ya priory 2nd best

torn wren
lofty depot
#

Lily 2nd best surely

royal zenith
#

fake news spreader

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!

loud kettle
#

for u guys maybe idk

torn wren
#

dimensius has a secret phase

royal zenith
#

I will hunt you down ulria

lucid olive
#

yeah I haven't optimized 90s trinkets yet so Lily might be better

royal zenith
lucid olive
#

the sim does some weird shit with 90s trinkets rn

torn wren
#

come, ill be waiting for you

lofty depot
#

I'll protec ulria

royal zenith
#

you are but a pixel arctic

torn wren
loud kettle
#

for cat its m forge > h forge > n forge > lfr forge > lfr unupgraded forge > m signet = unyielding netherprism > m lily > m stone idol

royal zenith
#

2 hands behind my back

lofty depot
royal zenith
#

you're not blizzard dealing with bamkin

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stop acting tough

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man can they just post new buffs tho

lucid olive
#

yes but none for chickens

#

surely a 5th round of bugfixes

normal pilot
#

11.2 is old news nobody wants to work on that shit anymore

sudden flame
#

stellar flare fury of elune are you sure you're not giving boomkin to many buttons to press

normal pilot
#

they're doing 11.5 work

sudden flame
#

to do the most damage

royal zenith
#

very sus you first spread a fake sim and then protect ulria, arctic

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can't help but notice a pattern/link

lucid olive
sudden flame
lofty depot
#

He's a busy man, I feel bad

royal zenith
#

I see him yap in RLE all the time

#

liar

lofty depot
#

Yea but that's not during the funny sim time

lucid olive
#

thats why i see you active yapping during peak work hours

loud kettle
#

forgot netherprism added it

royal zenith
#

I don't pretend I'm busy

torn wren
royal zenith
#

the plot thickens

torn wren
lofty depot
torn wren
#

anytime, i need to hit 675 before tomorrow raid

lofty depot
#

I actually need to get crests so I can craft off pieces

#

This is big

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I'm home in 5 hours

torn wren
#

i also dont know when tonight is for you, i am bad with timezones

#

its already tonight for me

lofty depot
#

Oh

royal zenith
#

what a bout a trade

lofty depot
#

EU smh

royal zenith
#

you get a 12, you fix sim

lofty depot
#

Surely he meant na character

torn wren
#

np i go to bed at 7 am

lucid olive
#

same

royal zenith
#

(neets)

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(so busy, amirite)

lofty depot
#

Bunch of degenerates

lucid olive
#

I stopped logging on NA cause I got tired of bodying Arctic in all content

royal zenith
#

damn

lofty depot
#

What he means was he got bodied by me after not playing boomkin for months

#

Him and that rat respectable

royal zenith
#

he do be a rat

lofty depot
#

Id help anyone if asked

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I'm a nice guy

royal zenith
digital berry
#

If you post an emote multiple times you’re more right I heard

lofty depot
digital berry
#

I would never question his rightness in the first place

round field
#

Yea theres nothing to question

dense steeple
#

Im ready for the bench

round field
#

You know hes full of shit

royal zenith
#

at least once a day

round field
dense steeple
#

Im gonna have at least 6 frames

lofty depot
#

6 frames in tazavesh

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on hte bench

normal pilot
#

wait don't by that ramkit, that's awful for a 9800x3d

solemn folio
dry compass
#

Step 1: don't look at cauldron

#

Fight is a meme

#

And it looks like he's standing in melee of the boss which means you're never going to compete with people playing middle and multi-dotting

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Step 2: I have an extremely hard time believing this secondary stat spread is optimal, spend some time with simcraft

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Step 3: if youre not playing middle and multi-dotting, you should be running regular single target talents, which this is not

solemn folio
#

I actually did go through and sim him, and swapping gems/enchants to the best i could find only gave him about 3k dps. His overall gear might be off too though

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That’s fair. Yeah I’m assuming he goes that route for cleave when they jump together. Still not ideal

dry compass
#

Did you also try recrafting his 3 crafted pieces to different secondaries?

lofty depot
#

Is close to the st build

dry compass
#

Gems chants are such a miniscule amount of your secondary budget, you're not going to find massive DPS shifts changing only those

#

Recrafting one piece shifts more secondaries than a full re-gem/chant

solemn folio
#

Thats fair. Yeah i could mess around with that and see. I feel like theres just generally something hes doing off. Other fights are usually grey/green parses as well

lofty depot
dry compass
#

Fix the gear first and then worry about performance

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The gear doesn't break down when he gets the shakes

solemn folio
#

Ill check it out

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He’s kind of the type that reads the guides and then follows it as gospel from then on.

lucid olive
dry compass
#

Oh dear

lucid olive
#

this is why you look at someones casts before going into their talents

lofty depot
#

Fix the gear first is uhhh not the problem

lucid olive
#

you can orange parse that boss with bad gear and bad talents

lofty depot
#

Not dumping asp

dry compass
#

I mean I stand by my point, fixing the gear is a one-and-done, learning the rotation is going to take some time 🙃

lofty depot
#

Sending CDs incorrectly is a far bigger dps loss, than fixing ur gear

solemn folio
#

So, since I really don’t know anything about balance, what is something that I can tell him he needs to fix/some things he needs to fix? Is he just not linking up his cooldowns?

lucid olive
#

And yes, linking cooldowns

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Never press Celestial Alignment/Incarnation without Force of Nature
Never Convoke without Celestial Alignment

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Can hold Force of Nature for 25 seconds for Convoke the Spirits to come back up

solemn folio
#

Gotcha. Good to know

lucid olive
#

This usually lines up like
0:02 Force of Nature - CA - Convoke
0:32 - Force of Nature - CA
1:15 - Force of Nature
2:00 Force of Nature - CA - Convoke
2:45 - Force of Nature
3:30 - Force of Nature
4:15 - Force of Nature - CA - Convoke

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etc etc

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with some changes depending on trinkets/fight timers etc

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but thats a rough outline and following it should be a good start, then you can start worrying about what external stuff changes it after

solemn folio
#

Good deal. Well I’ll send him that. I’m sure there are other issues on multi target fights (doesn’t feel like the best multi dotter), but i figured this was better to see if he’s messing something up with the fundamental rotation first

lofty depot
#

Instead of trying to interpret what we say

solemn folio
#

Yep I’m screen shooting it

#

Shotting

lofty depot
#

Fricc that tell him to join the server

#

We're very friendly and welcoming here

pseudo merlin
solemn folio
#

I literally made him join and told him to post and he didnt haha

lofty depot
#

Did u call him a little bitch

#

Surely that'll work

orchid ember
#

Works with my brother

lofty depot
errant flint
#

And gain thousands of rdruids

loud kettle
#

good to know fotm resto druids frequent this channel

solemn folio
pseudo merlin
#

Did someone mention reading the compendium yet

#

That should fix all of it

#

We're clearly just randomly pressing buttons

slim iris
#

That was your head arctic

lofty depot
#

Huh

#

I didn't see it I was on the phone 😔

dry compass
#

Arctic just really wants to trash this guy to his face

lofty depot
#

I wouldn't do that

#

We have to build up the community, not tear it down

solemn folio
#

Yeah he does want to be better, he just never bothers to look at anything but like wowhead guides

pseudo merlin
#

wowhead guides are usually fine

#

just the compendium is better for balance, and more frequently updated

wild dune
#

Does the boomie wowhead guide still say to craft an agi staff

pseudo merlin
#

Nevertheless, looking at the logs, he did not follow the wowhead guide

wild dune
plucky valley
#

That can help gauge his approach to x fight

lofty depot
#

Although maybe the guide isn't clear about CD uses. The premise is use all ur CDs together when u can

#

And he's sending them for fun right now

#

U don't lose anything by holding ur ca until the 2nd charge. So u have time

lucid olive
#

and that guide is a lot better this season

leaden birch
#

guys, what should I spend my last dinars on

#

I can buy 1 item and I have CE, I'm missing mythic jastors, HOC, and jug

scarlet tapir
#

what did u spend ur dinars on if ur missing all that

dry compass
lofty depot
#

Just farm Lily and a new ring in new parch

leaden birch
#

ty

sudden panther
#

I'm just now getting back into WoW. Haven't played since the beginning of dragonflight. Is druid a fun class to get into?

barren carbon
#

Spec by spec "fun" is a mixed bag lol

sudden panther
#

Just trying to figure out where to start once I use the level 70 boost

barren carbon
#

I'm a balance OTP. Idk why I'm answering bc of course I'll say it's fun lol

sudden panther
#

I've dabbled with druid before, it's just been a while

barren carbon
#

Do you have a preferred role that you like to play?

sudden panther
#

I wanna try balance

#

Or start there at least

#

I'm on NA server though

naive junco
#

So are we doomin or boomin on the ptr right now?

round field
#

2 buttons

lofty depot
sudden panther
#

I've always thought druids looked cool to play

#

I'd wanna start with balance though

lofty depot
#

People have different perceptions of xool

#

Ill say I don't play it cuz it's cool

sudden panther
#

True

normal pilot
#

if you like playing different roles, tank + dps + heal then druid is pretty good

#

if you're dead set on only dpsing then i'd look at a pure dps class like mage/lock

sudden panther
#

Well I figured I'd build dps and start there

#

Just not really sure where to start once I use the level boost

normal pilot
#

if you don't realistically think you'll tank or heal, then i'd boost a dps class first

sudden panther
#

I wanna eventually play tank and healer too

normal pilot
#

you can always start tanking even with a boost

lofty depot
normal pilot
#

much much easier to gear up

lofty depot
#

U can do some time walking prob

normal pilot
#

you'll be wasting a lot of time sitting in queues as dps

lofty depot
#

There's a bunch of places to get catch up gear, think the arthi area does that

dry compass
lucid olive
#

wut

dry compass
#

they just have everything listed as high lmao

#

i had the same reaction

lofty depot
#

That's cuz anyone can play boomkin and recruitie and Dak are gonna play way better classes now

scenic mist
#

keep the good work

leaden birch
#

are you guys re-crafting your embellishments onto something other than cloak and belt

scarlet tapir
#

embelishments are fake dont bother

leaden birch
#

thats what I thought

#

but my homie is saying to re-craft

#

but I'm like, eh

leaden birch
#

is it even gonna be worth the time and effort

scenic mist
#

it is

#

as it costs no time nor effort

leaden birch
#

so whatre you crafting your embs to?

scenic mist
#

bracers and hand/shoulder/boots i believe

dry compass
#

definetly not hand/shoulder

#

bracer/boots/offhand if not using BiS

exotic perch
#

youd be crafting on bracer/belt

#

boots are locked in from raid

leaden birch
#

is belt being replaced?

exotic perch
#

that is for next raid

dry compass
#

belt gets replaced on heroic track i believe?

exotic perch
#

yea you craft a belt to replace the disc one

leaden birch
#

and this is all in prep for next week

exotic perch
#

well you prob dont craft belt first lol

#

keep the disc belt for a while till you can drop the gilded for the belt

dry compass
#

I wonder if there's a world where it's optimal to not have BiS early in tier so you aren't struggling so hard with embellish slots

scenic mist
#

fire

lofty depot
lofty depot
scenic mist
lofty depot
#

Need to test some ilvl things

scenic mist
#

what are the bad news then ?

lofty depot
#

It's like 200-300k lower

leaden birch
#

I mean, I was moreso talking about crafting embellishments now in prep for s3

lofty depot
#

Ik

dry compass
#

how fast do you think you're going to get the DH boots?

lofty depot
#

Aug 5 cuz I'm a gamer

#

I assume u should have shoulder, glove, bracer, belt, boots, maybe oh

#

Have options then when u get gear it doesn't matter

leaden birch
#

wait so, there's some boots that we're getting from the raid too?

dry compass
#

yes

lilac citrus
#

yh they boost the cloak

dry compass
#

the demon hunters boss drops special boots that buff your cloak effects

lofty depot
#

They increase the damage of cloak and the % gets increased with difficulty

#

Lfr 20% mythic 50