the amount of times i've opened a new text file and dissected that variable
#balance
calm ibex
The hit button do damage variable?
lucid olive
Shred is a feral spell
lofty depot
It does
lucid olive
if you go melee and convoke you'll do shred damage actually
lofty depot
Cat form convoke too
digital berry
ast least next season i'll have a chance at 100 parses
since nobody will be playing balance
dry compass
Naw we're gonna get the week 1 Giga buff and be op again 
digital berry
again?
digital berry
week 1 mini buff, week 2 mini buff, we are decent at best and playable kinda
that's what is going to happen most likely
lofty depot
since nobody will be playing balance
Wrong again lol
Being just below the middle
Thinks we're getting buffs
jaunty blaze
quite poggers
dry compass
Still funny they gave the worst spec on ptr an 8% aura buff while buffing better specs by 20%
royal zenith
lol.
jaunty blaze
nah leave the minigamers out
royal zenith
I would actually rather have them buff ST + the splash damage for raid
less reliance on stinky starfall
more cleave
lofty depot
U and everyone that cares about boomkin (the non fotms)
digital berry
oh no absolutely
i am 100% for st being better then m+
but st is dogwater and so is m+ rn
dry compass
I still find it funny people used to complain about there being a single target eclipse and an aoe eclipse because starfall did arcane damage and they made starfall astral but then made Starfire cleave
And then two expacs later they just let you pick eclipse always instead of force cycling
royal zenith
I just prayge they give classes actual overhauls next exp
ever since DF dropped it's just mixing up talents
dry compass
They need a designer with a comprehensive and good vision for the class first
rich jewel
When they keep tuning the base specs instead of the tier sets 
dry compass
It's been various Frankensteins of old concepts + disjointed new ideas since MoP
rich jewel
Next tier rolls around, everything is a mess again
lucid olive
i hecking love ptr
scarlet tapir
When they keep tuning the base specs instead of the tier sets <:glorp:1299868840...
Cause new hero talents on midnight
lucid olive
I just prayge they give classes actual overhauls next exp
not happening until the trilogy is over surely
lofty depot
Imagine wasting time doing allat...
Evoker spit
royal zenith
not happening until the trilogy is over surely
this is the worst timeline
lofty depot
not happening until the trilogy is over surely
Stat squish bud
royal zenith
4 more years of this shite
lofty depot
We're getting reworked choo choo
royal zenith
EvErGrEeN HeRo TaLeNtS
dry compass
Haven't they already overhauled dark ranger twice
lofty depot
Probably add a row
scarlet tapir
not happening until the trilogy is over surely
you will 100p get new hero talents in midnight, cause dh will need 1 more for the new spec
jaunty blaze
holy shit 
cloud citrus
i like my boomy hero talents
dry compass
They've done excellent reworks for ret and Hunter recently
I'm just hoping we get out turn
cloud citrus
just wish there were a heap more visuals to them both
dry compass
What you don't like your little green fartball dream bursts?
cloud citrus
i wish the dream burst made my wrath have 1000 effects swirling around it
dry compass
Or your "wait was that my hero talent" boundless moonlight flash?
lofty depot
i wish the dream burst made my wrath have 1000 effects swirling around it
Yea so u could lag out?
lucid olive
i wish dream burst was procced by starsurge and not wrath
lofty depot
Yeet
dry compass
i wish dream burst was procced by starsurge and not wrath
Trueeee
cloud citrus
i dont lag out on those things
royal zenith
is also a way more logical way of proccing it
but why would you not introduce FRICTION?
lucid olive
the actual talent is called dream surge too..
errant flint
not here yall are ruthless and would just destroy me
royal zenith
only the self-called gods
lucid olive
"casting Force of Nature turns your Starsurge into Dream Surge doing increased Nature damage that hits nearby enemies capped to 5 targets"
royal zenith
and feedback can be neutral
lucid olive
just a cooler ability
cloud citrus
ye i would like that
lofty depot
not here yall are ruthless and would just destroy me
Weakmind
errant flint
Hard on outside, soft on inside
lofty depot
Hard on outside, soft on inside
Clearly not that hard if I can penetrate with words like "why u doing that" or "hey dork, stop that"
errant flint
thats fine i was thinking worse
obtuse merlin
I hope Blizzard still has a buff as back up before season 3 release. Otherwise, you won't get any inv in m+ again.
dry compass
Anyone not inviting because of class to weekly 10/12s are people you didn't want to run with in the first place 🤷
dense steeple
I struggle to get invited to 2s
leaden birch
dense steeple
Bold of you to assume I will get invited to 10s
dry compass
Warm corpses get invited to 2s
unique wasp
Im looking for a mythic + talent to try out on the PTR, is there a solid build someone recommends?
dry compass
Have you considered a blanket?
dry compass
Im looking for a mythic + talent to try out on the PTR, is there a solid build s...
It's ptr mate, the whole point is to play around with builds. Start with what's in compendium and fiddle
unique wasp
It's ptr mate, the whole point is to play around with builds. Start with what's...
We've been in the PTR for weeks now, id figure theres a build that shows promise
unique wasp
whats it called
Writhing Armor Banding
lofty depot
I hope Blizzard still has a buff as back up before season 3 release. Otherwise, ...
U can do any m+ key with any class for weeks
Months really
wild dune
having friends is op
lofty depot
Im looking for a mythic + talent to try out on the PTR, is there a solid build s...
Can use the ones listed on dreamgrove
dense steeple
Have you considered a blanket?
Will try this season thanks
unique wasp
Can use the ones listed on dreamgrove
Thanks! Ill stick with this then
pseudo merlin
Bold of you to assume I will get invited to 10s
getting into 10s is easier
elder pendant
are there any ptr talents for balance?
lucid olive
are there any ptr talents for balance?
for m+ just play the same as you do on live
errant flint
be me
posts my own key
gets group together
starts key
zug pug is still at start
blames it on *ping
kill mobs before 1st ML boss together
zugger is doing less than tank
kill 1st boss, zugger below tank
healer leaves "im not carrying"
come to find out tank/dps pug duo is likely one person piloting two characters
elder pendant
for m+ just play the same as you do on live
ok thanks
wild dune
be me
posts my own key
gets group together
starts key
zug pug is still at start...
pretty based tbh
neat horizon
m0s open next week ya for next season or is it the 12th? Bing doesnt give a good response (the superior search engine)
errant flint
Didnt it used to be daily lockout
errant flint
pretty based tbh
I love this game 
dense steeple
getting into 10s is easier
Only 3100 io, not good enough for pug 2
swift elbow
Didnt it used to be daily lockout
They made it back to weekly lockout when they increased the reward from veteran gear to champion gear for this season
shy void
balance druid apl: 🍎
sudden flame
I hope Blizzard still has a buff as back up before season 3 release. Otherwise, ...
again?
pseudo merlin
Only 3100 io, not good enough for pug 2
yup
stuck meadow
have we been buffed yet
lofty depot
We were buffed yes
crisp scaffold
we are top 2 5
jaunty blaze
one of the specs of season 3 for sure
nova ocean
Definitely the best ranged dps spec druid has
crisp scaffold
🖌️
tranquil plank
Only 3100 io, not good enough for pug 2
🐻 + Build group for a better time in weekly Keys
signal temple
https://gyazo.com/c4220317b1468d180cbf1dce5f369839
soft grove
ai screenshots
humble lantern
New details layout
misty glade
do people go an extra step to upload things to a website instead of just using the snipping tool?
jaunty blaze
still beats those who post phone pics of their screen
humble lantern
do people go an extra step to upload things to a website instead of just using t...
I upload it to my space and send u link
lofty depot
do people go an extra step to upload things to a website instead of just using t...
Some people dont know about windows + shift + s
dry compass
do people go an extra step to upload things to a website instead of just using t...
warlock discord is cringe and doesn't let you paste images
you have to paste it in another discord and then copy/paste the link to that discord post or like an imgur link
serene elk
Boomie got buff ? Seen gingi's new video with strong boomie
eager raft
27 second clip
we are so astronomically back
dense steeple
still beats those who post phone pics of their screen
Like this?
lofty depot
27 second clip
We're so back
serene elk
We're really back ?
wild dune
no
pallid bay
bro be pulling 20 mobs in floodgate all cds lust pot saying boomie OP
wild dune
and thats prenerf aswell
the clip in question is post nerf.
but its a total farce for the reasons dsune said.
novel copper
the clip in question is post nerf.
which clip is it?
wild dune
the latest short on gingi's youtube.
delicate perch
bro be pulling 20 mobs in floodgate all cds lust pot saying boomie OP
Nerf bamkin
pallid bay
the latest short on gingi's youtube.
i hadnt even seen it 
stone ledge
think it was after the 1st set of nerfs not the 2nd
maiden pasture
Like this?
clean up ur server list bruv
lofty depot
clean up ur server list bruv
More like turn some notis off
tranquil plank
More like turn some notis off
Keys ain't gonna boost themselves!
dense steeple
Soma ain't boostin
you right i havent boosted in like 2 months
i just occassionally go in there and clear them
im surprised i didnt get called out for the windows
tranquil plank
20k for a +10
Boost week 1 or don't boost at all :P
stone ledge
needs the exact decimal to say you werent standing in that mech
dense steeple
why do you have your coordinates displayed twice
ones on map wone is addon
funny enough it doesnt always work
idk how to turn it off tho
vital hound
what minimap addon
dense steeple
no idea
lucid olive
why do you have a clock there
you have more than 1 monitor..
reminds me of those old rainmeter desktops with like 20 different clocks and text that told you what city you're in
vital hound
reminds me of those old rainmeter desktops with like 20 different clocks and tex...
dude rainmeter was SICK
i used to have a music visualizer lmao
dense steeple
same
lucid olive
dude rainmeter was SICK
it made me sick
Okay there is a working APL for Keeper tier set on mimiron.raidbots.com now, it probably needs some small adjustments still but it's more than enough to try out shit
misty glade
Okay there is a working APL for Keeper tier set on mimiron.raidbots.com now, it ...
My king.
meager storm
More like turn some notis off
vital hound
meager storm
I’m collecting
vital hound
jesus
meager storm
I know people with like 50k on gmail
signal temple
I’m collecting
I could never have this. I get antsy when I have like 5.
obsidian jetty
I’m collecting
I never allow it higher than 0
lucid oriole
meager storm
cool pic
lucid olive
i can make us at least top 7
drifting nova
wheres ec
crimson spade
I’m guessing that’s raid?
wild dune
what else would it be
wild dune
its not even raid its just a 5min 1t sim 
keen plaza
that ones like 2 days old at this point
gritty wraith
spending most of this tier in the bin, and then in the bin next tier
fun
just wanna be middle of the pack for a tier
wild dune
i mean
normal pilot
can try playing a good class
keen plaza
that 5.2 includes the 8%
frigid yoke
Now the short is uploaded we get a nerf
gritty wraith
8% buff and we still bottom fragging
iron flicker
that short has to be old, floodgate hasn't been on the PTR for like a week now
ragebait
dense steeple
wife got kicked from a TW by a rat guardian rando i am HEATED
meager storm
taiwan?
meager storm
HUH
dense steeple
nah i casted spells that started with R instead
lucid olive
sure bud
@mighty mica can remove the latest pin
it's been a while now the information is old
mighty mica
👍
delicate perch
nah i casted spells that started with R instead
@vital hound what’s he mean by that
vital hound
<@126112819476168705> what’s he mean by that
meager storm
bro what are these pics
vital hound
meager storm
errant flint
deleted
vital hound
drifting nova
deserved for whatever that hp bar is
vital hound
"accidentally"
errant flint
wife got kicked from a TW by a rat guardian rando i am HEATED
I like to grief players in game that do this. So mean to her for no reason.
dense steeple
I like to grief players in game that do this. So mean to her for no reason.
i just turned into billy the kid before taking deserter debuff myself
errant flint
It must be done
delicate perch
<:max:284117828955537408>
HAHAHA what is that one 
potent cargo
errant flint
why is everyone bald?
potent cargo
skill issue
vital hound
dense steeple
why is everyone bald?
jealous
errant flint
Not me though I have fur..hair
digital berry
I wish I was bald ngl
errant flint
Get you a very stressful partner. You'll never have to see hair again.
snow elm
Where do you find dps sim charts of ptr classes?
lucid olive
i can whip one up in paint if you want
itd be just as useful as ones in spreadsheets
vital hound
please do
jaunty cliff
guys, how bad is 10% haste with 660 ilvl?
errant flint
10% bad
jaunty cliff
10% is good
errant flint
Im like 670 still and have 21% haste...I suck bc I dont do my prio right
and at 660 youll likely not do any meaningful content beyond a 12 max or full 8/8M
So probably more worry is spent on pressing the buttons well
jaunty cliff
2sec cast on starfire is tough
errant flint
You can always sim droptimizer or craft string to see how much more youd do with wtvr haste those items are offering.
But Ive seen 680's not do good button presses and do garbo damage.
Regardless of stats they had or didnt have
dull dust
errant flint
So new neck in that one place good?
lofty depot
If it has mastery
lofty depot
Mastery still good
errant flint
no you were right with hood
dense steeple
Haste yucky, vers gang
ong?
lofty depot
Ong
lucid olive
refresh dots in pandemic
wrath to enter lunar eclipse
press fury of elune off cooldown
potent cargo
hard to fuckup aoe as boomy lol
lucid olive
press starfire
potent cargo
if you do low dmg maybe ur doing low key
lucid olive
press starfall
potent cargo
and shit dies before u are rampin
errant flint
I like the part of friends helping me in higher keys so i can do actual damage but my health bar is scarier.
lofty depot
I’ve tried everything but dps is too low
do higher keys prob
errant flint
"will i die to this aoe? dont know presses 0 defensives"
ripe anchor
what embellishment are you grabbing for when we get new cloak?
ripe anchor
Okay let me ask that question again. like its july 28th.. what are you guys crafting now to swap for it later?
dense steeple
im crafting and putting it on now
ripe anchor
❤️
dense steeple
because i cant enter the raid without thee cloak
ripe anchor
What did you craft lol?
tranquil plank
What did you craft lol?
Crafted in all the off slots for flexibility.
ripe anchor
Thats what i've been seeing. Crafted rings but embels still on back and wrist
lofty depot
Okay let me ask that question again. like its july 28th.. what are you guys craf...
all ur off pieces
ripe anchor
Thanks
lofty depot
?
u have all the sparks in the world, ive needed it randomly for a few days when ur moving around gear
ebon plover
mm season for sure unfortunately
dense steeple
boots and belt occupied s3
lofty depot
boots and belt occupied s3
u dont wear belt later
delicate perch
later implies the tier is done so who cares by then
lofty depot
week 3 isnt tier done
vital hound
hard to fuckup aoe as boomy lol
fkn watch me
lucid olive
u dont wear belt later
you sure?
dense steeple
fkn watch me
I BET MY STIX PARSE WORSE THAN YOURS
caps lock
sorry when i log into my war i go hard
vital hound
what does that even mean
dense steeple
i hit buttons so much i accidentally hit caps lock
dense steeple
you sid
watch me
in response to being bad at aoe
i said
i bet my stix parse is worse than yours
dense steeple
i had to get the other parses in there
just so you can see how absolutely dogshit i can be
potent cargo
ur just ramping brother dw bout it
everyone better than u has better gear and guilds that let them pad
or better timings
ionic oak
I like your attitude. I need that
dense steeple
but we persevere
all i do is persevere
dense steeple
you dont know the hell ive been in
dense steeple
you dont know the hell ive been in
digital berry
Greens means good no
vital hound
fucking ell
dense steeple
i have been leveling characters to run through FREEHOLD of all places
the last few weeks
i got more TWW mounts than i got legacy mounts during this bounty buff
elder remnant
dense steeple
rae the real homie wont laugh at my parses
elder remnant
Don’t look at mine 
dense steeple
im just out here showing that some of us are still human
elder remnant
Interesting you’d say that
elder remnant
i am on a warrior
And this in the same day
dense steeple
i farmed nonstop
ionic oak
I got 0
dense steeple
you didnt farm
dry compass
It's not worth it brother
I didn't do any of the BFA dungeons, that shit is coming back for M+ eventually and you can farm it then
elder remnant
Wdym soma you’re an m+ fiend
digital berry
I got 27 io more then you
dense steeple
tough guy
past tide
digital berry
past tide
dense steeple
on the bright side of all this alt shit
i found literally 1million gold lying around my account
like that i didnt know existed
thank god for warbank
dense steeple
niiice
glossy jungle
still positive at the end of the night. never stop gambling. you will always win. get twisted
elder remnant
So true bestie
dense steeple
honestly
elder remnant
I called the comeback
dense steeple
based
glossy jungle
i was up to 32mil a few weeks ago. but down to a poor 24m. might as well live in the slums
potent cargo
i was up to 32mil a few weeks ago. but down to a poor 24m. might as well live in...
did sep take your gold
glossy jungle
nah everyone did
elder remnant
You have to have some sort of hacks installed
dense steeple
havent been that rich since legion
elder remnant
Sep lost 4 mil in about 10 mins last night
glossy jungle
elder remnant
Logged off
potent cargo
lmfao shn diabolical
glossy jungle
shn is last on 2 toons
potent cargo
show wwmwwm
glossy jungle
meeting time 
lyric kettle
still positive at the end of the night. never stop gambling. you will always win...
This is a lie
elder remnant
When is big G coming back
lyric kettle
I’m down 6.8mil
elder remnant
Skill issue
elder remnant
dense steeple
why that cat throwin it back
elder remnant
Coz I’m built diff + it jiggles when I walk (my brain)
elder remnant
bedge time
Nini soma
potent cargo
pretty much
when my main is unbanned in 2026 I will come back and wreak some havoc but until then i just cbf
this tier looks fkn mid
run it back next xpac
elder remnant
Glad our dev is really going above and beyond
potent cargo
lil 2 day a week action
elder remnant
In being doubly shit across two specs
How tf can you be so terrible at your job you fail to make two specs fun and/or interesting and balanced for this many tiers in a row honestly
elder remnant
lil 2 day a week action
Boy do I have the guild for you my guy
Unfortunately it raids Fridays and Saturdays lmfao
elder remnant
when my main is unbanned in 2026 I will come back and wreak some havoc but until...
How did you get it banned
potent cargo
Unfortunately it raids Fridays and Saturdays lmfao
ye worst days
I come home from work friday and im cooked
and uh
idk some mix of rmt and abuse of gms
elder remnant
Valid
potent cargo
coulda been anything bc i did that shit for so many years anything at any time coulda cooked me
potent cargo
dindu nuffin
hollow mist
love my rmting (in minecraft)
cloud plover
i wanna play minecraft
frigid yoke
Goodmurning
hollow mist
i wanna play minecraft
wanna play on me and eve's server?
hollow mist
send me the link ill build u something sick
elder remnant
wanna play on me and eve's server?
vanilla or modded? >:)
i've got a lil poe minecraft modpack server going rn and it's goated
hollow mist
vanilla or modded? >:)
we have a couple datapacks but it's pretty vanilla ye
poe minecraft sounds wild
elder remnant
it's veeeeery fun
livid jay
How tf can you be so terrible at your job you fail to make two specs fun and/or ...
legit
this is what my guildies feel
meanwhile me
scarlet tapir
1 week? Isnt the next reset the last one
sudden flame
meanwhile me
experiencing 1% of feral mains pain 💔
jade flume
Im looking forward to new season tbh
Gonna be fun
Definitely reroll angel if u are a druid dps tho
fossil hemlock
Expansion reveal also the week after (the 20th) so even more hype to unlock
(maybe)
I can't wait to see what new and exciting thing they're going to add and then neglect for 3 seasons
crisp badger
Definitely reroll angel if u are a druid dps tho
surely more buffs are coming 
royal zenith
Expansion reveal also the week after (the 20th) so even more hype to unlock
this is more hype than playing boomie first week next tier
cursive otter
Sorry, guys, but have almost no info about current boomie situation on ptr.
Can someone link to any chat message (or just tell it in few words) that explains where we are right now? Dead, semidead, almost dead, good?
crisp badger
boomie in the bin
i have an spriest backup but i just wanna play boomie 
delicate perch
Sorry, guys, but have almost no info about current boomie situation on ptr.
Can ...
(first one)
crisp badger
(first one)
is it also deadge in m+
delicate perch
I think it's somehow currently more dead in m+
crisp badger
I think it's somehow *currently* more dead in m+
delicate perch
but you can easily gear a m+ character so play whatever
royal zenith
what a joke of a tier
does it matter though
the whole purpose of a ramping buff + gear is to make it easier and easier as time goes by
crisp badger
its not like wow has really ever been a mechanically difficult game in the first place anyways 
royal zenith
it's not
- if you want to compete, you go for ranks
not end-of-tier gallywix is easy OMG TIER IS SO EASY
elder remnant
i mean it is tho
delicate perch
not end-of-tier gallywix is easy OMG TIER IS SO EASY
I +2'd a 10 the other day
royal zenith
yeah but it doesn't matter
elder remnant
CE's been made in to an even bigger meme
delicate perch
m+ so easy lol
pallid bay
when you first got it
royal zenith
it's a nice achievement to chase when you have never gotten it
elder remnant
the amount of guilds that have never seen more than 4 bosses that killed gally this tier
delicate perch
CE is just +1 mount
royal zenith
is gallywix easier than any other endboss, probably
but having more guilds get CE is infinitely better for the game
crisp badger
but having more guilds get CE is infinitely better for the game
why?
royal zenith
so they can keep funding the game you play
by boosting and buying months through gold
more money, better content
crisp badger
pretty sure they make infinitely more money off the casual crowd than the CE crowd
royal zenith
I dunno, basic logic
delicate perch
ya but if the casuals can now eventually get the mythic loot/mounts
royal zenith
yeah and what do casual crowds buy
delicate perch
royal zenith
or want to achieve
fossil hemlock
yeah and what do casual crowds buy
Dn
delicate perch
(mythic has a lot of those)
fossil hemlock
i don't think they care about CE
To them it's prestigious, and CE does come with (a chance of) a mount
fossil hemlock
To them
royal zenith
it's definitely a prestige for them
fossil hemlock
You've never heard a newer player be happy they achieved their first CE?
royal zenith
and they also use it to get into guilds
delicate perch
if it's not prestigious to you why do you care if more people have it
crisp badger
i do, but i don't get it
crisp badger
if it's not prestigious to you why do you care if more people have it
i don't really, im just asking why morep eople getting CE would be better for the game
idk where you pulled that assumption out of
fossil hemlock
That was answered
crisp badger
ok, whats your point
crisp scaffold
Id rather have last boss being hard ,than a middle of the raid boss
delicate perch
would you be more or less inclined to play a game if a % of the rewards were just never obtainable for you?
crisp badger
i don't think i have that mentality
crisp badger
i play a game because the gameplay is fun
delicate perch
I mean this tier is a meme but there was a lot of borrowed power + raid buff + raid nerfs
fossil hemlock
wow doesnt have new players
It does, actually
crisp badger
i have 0 skins in csgo or any comp games i play
fossil hemlock
A decent amount of them
crisp scaffold
Actually there are a few new players ,but they pay for my gold ingame
royal zenith
social aspect
crisp badger
crisp badger
both, mostly friends, but my guild also does yearly trips
we went to an amusement park this summer
was great fun
royal zenith
So now imagine lowering the difficulty of mythic, and more guilds get to enjoy what you have
I should make the sidenote of difficulty lowering throughout the tier - not at the start
crisp badger
i swear ego and this "prestige" is the problem
what does CE even mean if its not difficult
would it feel good to obtain it after it was omega super nerfed to absolutely nothing
royal zenith
I don't think it's ego, it's just goals you have as a player or as a guild
crisp badger
it isn't very difficult in the firstp lace in terms of mechanical skill, it's just logistics and strategy
royal zenith
would it feel good to obtain it after it was omega super nerfed to absolutely no...
I think you're a bit detached from what normal players experience
but I'm not sure why
crisp badger
probably
royal zenith
when you first start playing this game you learn more and more and want to achieve x or y
the only moment you skip all of that
is if you get carried by friends
jade flume
Are u saying mythic raiders are not normal 
crisp badger
when you first start playing this game you learn more and more and want to achie...
i think i've always been motivated by very short term goals
vale pebble
it isn't very difficult in the firstp lace in terms of mechanical skill, it's ju...
yea not rly
crisp badger
it has never been "get gladiator" or "get CE"
sudden flame
Ge CE early then send the "this boss used to be harder" copypasta whenever someone else gets CE
dire osprey
vale pebble
people keep coping that wow is the easiest thing mechanically
if u say that uve not seen some people
crisp badger
if it's your first mmo, it's gonna take time to get used to sure
tulip snow
Are u saying mythic raiders are not normal <:triggered:278287125340749824>
they just have more fun time than everyone else
vale pebble
nah
even if uve played wow for 10 years
believe me
this game is not as easy as u thinks
fossil hemlock
Go watch some race to world last or normal/heroic prog streams
fossil hemlock
Apples and oranges
vale pebble
the gap between u and firedup is like u and faker
tulip snow
if you've played wow for 10 years and you ain't lvl 80 that's crazy
royal zenith
if you don't have an easy pipeline for information on this game, you're perma behind
dire osprey
if u say that uve not seen some people
crisp badger
Apples and oranges
both games that require reaction time, planning and clean execution of button sequences
and game knowledge
jade flume
Man i miss the korean homie streams
vale pebble
waiting for someone to link the chinese 16h spires
crisp badger
i don't see why youc an't compare fruit just because they are different species
fossil hemlock
A lot of people play this game without being certified "gamers"
jade flume
10 hour weekly no lever
royal zenith
cause this game was never about reaction time
tulip snow
when the lever breaks
dire osprey
waiting for someone to link the chinese 16h spires
crisp badger
cause this game was never about reaction time
you need to kick in time
cc in time
its a looong time
royal zenith
it affects it, that's a fact
crisp badger
but it's still tiem sensitive
crisp badger
idk, just na example
crisp badger
if you really want reaction time maybe pvp is a better example
royal zenith
but if you compare it to a fighting game where you need to time your frames
bit diffy
vale pebble
in pve u need to react to ur ant teammates doing some random shit
and that has infinite possibilities
crisp badger
the point is that they are comparable to a degree
tulip snow
kicking isnt based on reaction time in pve
I get kicked from PVE groups all the time WDYM??
royal zenith
yeah anything is comparable to a degree in life
crisp badger
sure, but to a relevant degree i would say
vale pebble
I get kicked from PVE groups all the time WDYM??
pipe down bro ur not him
crisp badger
it's not like im arbitrarily comparing them
royal zenith
but if you compare wow to Professional football, it's not the same
crisp badger
no, but i CAN make the comparison
and make a point out of it
jsut epends on my point
royal zenith
well yeah that's the whole issue in this convo 
vale pebble
obsidian jetty
yall are just yappin lowkey. The game is hard to someone, and that someone wants the achievement. Period
it's not hard to you, so you don't want the acheivement
gg
tulip snow
pipe down bro ur not him
people get kicked more than me??
royal zenith
crisp badger
yall are just yappin lowkey. The game is hard to someone, and that someone wants...
i mean i don't disagree with this
royal zenith
and if you got the achievement
crisp badger
im just saying there are games that are way harder
royal zenith
you want a better rank
crisp badger
imo
jade flume
Doesnt matter whether game is harder or not in a vacuun
crisp badger
define harder
tighter margins or error
jade flume
When you are trying to compete you are competing against other players
crisp badger
require more difficult execution
crisp badger
like ttighter timing on button sequences
tulip snow
tryna pipe down when I'm just a civilian
royal zenith
Your argument means that World First raiders play just an easy game as all of us do @ ruse
tulip snow
mod abuse
delicate perch
Your argument means that World First raiders play just an easy game as all of us...
real tho, just don't die and kill boss?
vale pebble
ive played this game before i have this convo mapped out
royal zenith
truu
crisp badger
Your argument means that World First raiders play just an easy game as all of us...
competing with people is different from competing with the game
crisp badger
completion vs race is very diff
vale pebble
competing with people is different from competing with the game
but ur competing with people in both games
if ur picking a fighter or wow
completion is always relative
royal zenith
^
obsidian jetty
you're competing for a group/raid spot
cloud citrus
ur a relative
jade flume
Time is relative
vale pebble
yea competing for a grp
crisp badger
idk, i never saw wow as a competitive game
jade flume
Ye because u arent trying to compete
jade flume
M+, raid ranks, pvp ranks
vale pebble
logs rankings
crisp badger
i don't really care about that for games
jade flume
Logs
crisp badger
logs are fine, but its not hard to get orange logs
i guess if you want pink/100 logs
vale pebble
1 in 30 ppl that would play the game
vale pebble
logs are fine, but its not hard to get orange logs
ok lets pipe down here
obsidian jetty
by definition only a certain % of ppl can get orange brother
vale pebble
uve not achieved an orange log
maiden pasture
what a crazy convo we have here
vale pebble
pipe down mayaler
obsidian jetty
a small enough % that it is objectively "hard" to get
vale pebble
not ur turn yet
obsidian jetty
most ppl will not have orange
vale pebble
when im done with him
tulip snow
pipe down bro ur not him
dude loves pipe let me tell ya
maiden pasture
vale pebble
in 5minutes when i go break
maiden pasture
okok
crisp badger
i just don't get why people are so defensive about the opinion that WoW is not a hard game, and really most of the differences you see in CE or whatever is not in terms of mechanical skill, but other factors
rwf is a different story i guess
obsidian jetty
disagree=defensive
vale pebble
i just don't get why people are so defensive about the opinion that WoW is not a...
because ur just saying stuff for fun without proof
jade flume
Its not really about being defensive lol. People just dont agree
tulip snow
I think people (in this chat) are rightfully correct most of the time
vale pebble
I think people (in this chat) are rightfully correct most of the time
ur wrong
crisp badger
but its not like you're providing any proof for your points either? i literally listed the things you can compare a fighting game with wow to
tulip snow
oh no
vale pebble
but its not like you're providing any proof for your points either? i literally ...
yes but ur starting ur point no?
crisp badger
executing a combo is way harder than executing your rotation in wow
distance management all that
there's more to take into consideration
royal zenith
the fact that a world rank for raiding exists, is an argument by itself
maiden pasture
bombaclart
vale pebble
please deny it
sudden flame
royal zenith
but you only focus on specific mechanic parts to make your point
vale pebble
great ragebait please continue @crisp badger
crisp badger
but you only focus on specific mechanic parts to make your point
so what points would make my poitn break then?
crisp badger
great ragebait please continue <@121190778746699776>
im sorry a large portion of your ego is nested in WoW that you feel so personally offended by my opinion
jade flume
Even if game is simple as a baseline. Theres still way more to being good at it. How quickly you learn mechanics, how often you get hit by stuff, how good are you with managing your rotation when fight gets chaotic
crisp badger
but that's not really my problem
obsidian jetty
great ragebait please continue <@121190778746699776>
just look at his other raid logs (he has none)
jade flume
Theres millions of things you can be good at
vale pebble
just look at his other raid logs (he has none)
delicate perch
just look at his other raid logs (he has none)
he just wasn't raiding that tier either smh
vale pebble
100 logging ragebait
jade flume
Its not just about performing your rotation in a vacuum
crisp badger
just look at his other raid logs (he has none)
thats because i reroll every season
to try something new
idk why people are looking at info without context and making their own assumptions
delicate perch
crisp badger
but i guess that's why we're here inthe first place
im sorry i think other games are harder than wow
you guys can calm down now
crisp scaffold
Im the same ,since bfa I quit my main which was rogue and switched chars every patch
delicate perch
I will not do that
royal zenith
well you kinda need to prove your point by actually being nr. 1 right
crisp badger
well you kinda need to prove your point by actually being nr. 1 right
i didn't say anything about being nr 1
royal zenith
else you saying "the game is easy" has no value
jade flume
I will not do that
Calm down homie
crisp badger
this is all just assumptions
delicate perch
Calm down homie
ok sorry
cloud citrus
the high end is not easier but the for 90% of the people wow pre ez
obsidian jetty
you guys can calm down now
you can think w/e you want. You came into the discussion asking a question, then refuted everything by just saying "well I don't think so." Not sure what you expect
royal zenith
yeah but if the game is easy, it's easy to get ranks
crisp badger
i literally just said other games are harder, and CE is easy to get
royal zenith
that's the whole premise
royal zenith
you mean the base mechanics are easy to understand
delicate perch
vale pebble
and that the game is mechanically easy
shoot head also easy in cs no?
whats so hard about that
crisp badger
you can believe that if you want
placid olive
Simple doesn’t equal easy tho
crisp badger
if its easier for you its easier
delicate perch
just don't miss lmfao 
royal zenith
its the literal same argument
crisp badger
i find shooting heads hard
vale pebble
vale pebble
delicate perch
I've already broken 3 keyboards
crisp badger
what did you even disprove lol, you're just aggressively making assumptions
obsidian jetty
in both games you are competing with the skill of other players. You being good is based on how good the best player is, and the worst player is, and your relation to the two.
crisp badger
and then saying you disproved my point
vale pebble
what did you even disprove lol, you're just aggressively making assumptions
u have 0 proof
crisp badger
?????
royal zenith
called my mom to tell the news
crisp badger
i literally explained
delicate perch
called my mom to tell the news
I called her too
crisp badger
that its harder to execute fighting game combos
vale pebble
with 0 proof?
royal zenith
say hi for me
crisp badger
than wow rotations
vale pebble
prove it
meager storm
Is this bait chat
obsidian jetty
yes
crisp badger
idk
vale pebble
yeah but it's not ragebait this time
royal zenith
soooo offended
lyric kettle
@delicate perch explain the happenings in OCE PLS
tulip snow
@vale pebble do you contribute to the compendium? real question no fluff
crisp badger
if you weren't offended why be so aggressive lmao
delicate perch
<@129188899741237248> explain the happenings in OCE PLS
lfr player says game ez bc they suck at another game
crisp badger
and condescending
vale pebble
<@246708743738359808> do you contribute to the compendium? real question no fluf...
i have not since vault me thinks
royal zenith
do you actually play wow?
crisp badger
it's jsut weird
scenic mist
and condescending
lyric kettle
lfr player says game ez bc they suck at another game
ty
royal zenith
literally noone is calling you names, making fun of you
crisp badger
the gaslighting is crazy
crisp scaffold
lfr >mithic ,game is harder with 0 brain ppl
tulip snow
i have not since vault me thinks
like raid logging vault? or?
vale pebble
like raid logging vault? or?
wat
royal zenith
just contesting the argument
delicate perch
literally noone is calling you names, making fun of you
@vital hound is
scenic mist
like raid logging vault? or?
Voti
royal zenith
yeah but sheep
tulip snow
ohhh
delicate perch
he's dming me so many slurs
royal zenith
is a demon
tulip snow
vault of the incarnates
to me that sounded like "raid logging"
vale pebble
its ok ur new u have a pass
tulip snow
not that message but
crisp badger
just contesting the argument
you call it contest but so far the only counter i've heard is "NO PROOF (even tho ive explained like 2 tiems already)" and "LOOK AT HIS LOGS HEH" even tho that has absolutely nothing to do with my point
royal zenith
nah cause you swapped to "disprove my argument"
before proving your argument is true
tulip snow
its ok ur new u have a pass
I've been here, just shit posting mostly
crisp badger
but i did make my point
royal zenith
basic strawman
crisp badger
i explaiend what i find harder abotu fighting games
crisp scaffold
COPS ? Im out
tulip snow
its ok ur new u have a pass
you just seem new to me
crisp badger
i explained the sensorimotor emchanical differences that are requried for both games
vale pebble
you just seem new to me
delicate perch
sometimes it's better to say less
crisp badger
or tell me what you think is wrong
vital hound
whats the argument
vital hound
is bro bad and arguing
vale pebble
you just seem new to me
checks out
obsidian jetty
whats the argument
don't bother bro
royal zenith
yeah and chicken said "shooting heads is easy" and you said "only if it is for you"
I dunno
delicate perch
whats the argument
lfr player says wow ez because they can't headshot in cs
vital hound
lfr player says wow ez because they can't headshot in cs
just put the reticle on the head
whats the big deal
crisp badger
yeah and chicken said "shooting heads is easy" and you said "only if it is for y...
shooting head is easy compared to what? he can find shooting heads easy that's fine
delicate perch
crisp badger
but it doesn't prove anything?
royal zenith
that's the whole point
crisp badger
im comparing rotations to combos because they are both button sequencing
royal zenith
crisp badger
what are you comparing shooting heads to?
royal zenith
I'm so offended
vale pebble
<a:AAAA:1032058363221135420>
chillax bro hes ragebaiting
vital hound
royal zenith
anyway, nearly lunchtime
tulip snow
checks out
sorry fam, I'm just here in the off tier shitposting hours
delicate perch
what are you comparing shooting heads to?
do you actually think wow is easy or did I just make it up
crisp scaffold
On another note ,buffs today at 16 PM
vital hound
yea way too late for na
delicate perch
no shot he's not american
meager storm
Ight ggs
delicate perch
that's insane
crisp badger
do you actually think wow is easy or did I just make it up
i think wow is easier than other games?
vital hound
no shot he's not american
wait till you see
vale pebble
no shot he's not american
americans are
delicate perch
i think wow is easier than other games?
what type of wow though
vital hound
how dumb eurotrashes are