balance

[lofty depot]

The nerf was 40% of our total damage

[frank ridge]

that seems like way too much

[frank ridge]

💀

[lofty depot]

Well feelycraft < math

[meager storm]

MMs nerf is nothing

still by far one of the best dps

[frank ridge]

so u saying that before the nerf the dryads were over 50% of our overall?

[meager storm]

not the dryad, the amped surges were

[lofty depot]

It's not the dryad that got nerfed it sthe buff

[frank ridge]

same thing, im talking about the bonus dryads gave

[meager storm]

not the same thing

[jaunty blaze]

The dryad didnt even do damage before iirc

[frank ridge]

of 5% damage done

[frank ridge]

but im talking about the same thing

im talking about the 5% bonus

period

[meager storm]

u are but u are referring to the wrong thing

[lofty depot]

Well it's 3% now

And they lowered the cap

[meager storm]

yes the 5% surge was nerfed a lot

[frank ridge]

yes but now u know what I mean

[lofty depot]

Significantly

[jaunty blaze]

Also scaling was different

[night gulch]

thats before the nerf

51% of my damage

[meager storm]

thats nothing

[frank ridge]

I saw that, but in how many instances did we amped the starsurge?

[meager storm]

pull up one of my logs

i cant im on dota game

[frigid niche]

The 8% up is enough to be ok ?

[lofty depot]

?

[night gulch]

yeah that wasn't my best pull lol, this guy just doesn't want to believe the nerf was that big lol

[lofty depot]

Define ok

[jaunty blaze]

Not really

[frigid niche]

Ok is not to be in lastest dps . Be in middle up

[frank ridge]

the spreadsheet u linked showed the ~50% nerf in the amped starsurge, but how many instances of amped starsurges was in a fight?

[lofty depot]

51% isnt

He was doing 70

51 is roughly what we do on live

Or a bit higher

[lofty depot]

Cal it 6... But the surges were doing 200m

So it's like 50% of our damage total

[frank ridge]

idk man 40% total damage nerf either some guys were hitting 30% more than any other spec or we are the new aug

[frank ridge]

I see

[lofty depot]

It's more than 6 times

Cuz that's just by 2m

[night gulch]

we were not doing 30% more than every other spec, please, lets pretend to be truthful

and if you link like some 2 minute heroic ptr logs, lets not

[frank ridge]

so we are the new aug and in theory we are supposed to be on the rock bottom even with the 8%?

[night gulch]

yes

even with the buffs we are still on the bottom

[primal oriole]

im not understanding how?

[night gulch]

our base damage is very low

whats hard to understand

the tierset was carrying us on ptr

they nerfed it

we suck now

[lofty depot]

U didn't pay attention to the nerfs or are looking at logs from ptr raid

[night gulch]

its not like some great logic leap

[lofty depot]

Which is before we got nerfed

But ur assumption we were doing damage before these buffs are just incorrect

[jaunty blaze]

Still dont

[frank ridge]

saddest thing is the EC is still hitting bonkers on high keys so we probably wont see a buff

they called boomkin a m+ spec and they will not care

[primal oriole]

thats what im wondering about because i do mostly m+

[night gulch]

we also aren't particularly good in m+ currently, don't know if you've seen that

[primal oriole]

so were still fine?

[lofty depot]

No

[wild dune]

on ptr? not really.

losing s2 set is big bad.

[frank ridge]

I was watching peettko the other day and he was topping overall for most of the dungeons and he def doesnt have a dogshit team to compare lmao

[frank ridge]

we lost KOTG set

[wild dune]

the s3 ec set isnt very good

[frank ridge]

I'm aware of that, but isnt trash as KOTG is for ST currently

[wild dune]

you referenced ec in high keys, assumably on ptr

where it is definitely not "hitting bonkers"

[lofty depot]

Mm hits bonkers

EC hits like noodle

Reference tettles stream from tonight

[jaunty blaze]

Buffs tomorrow

[frank ridge]

can u point some logs

[lofty depot]

TETTLES STREAM

as stated under that

[jaunty blaze]

At least minigamers are gone next season

[lofty depot]

Surely

[jaunty blaze]

[wild dune]

i mean u made the claim first

SO

[digital berry]

@frank ridge here’s your reference

Tank dps

[jaunty blaze]

8% black arrow nerf

[frank ridge]

I said peettko

[digital berry]

Right now we’re dead last in st and bottom 5 probably in m+

[wild dune]

ok?

im not gonna go deepdive some elses logs for you

[digital berry]

Who the hell even is peettko

[frank ridge]

multi-class streamer, he was rank 1 ele for a long time

[edgy coral]

Icy veins writer and ele glazer

[digital berry]

Can’t trust these icy veins writers

Look at tettles

[frank ridge]

ok bruv

[digital berry]

Brother either he wasn’t playing with an mm hunter in ptr or his mm hunter was trolling

If he was topping dps meters

With balance in its current state

[frank ridge]

this statement just clarify the fact that mm hunter is the best spec

[digital berry]

Yeah

We been knew

[wild dune]

still waiting on logs showing ec boomie blasting in high keys on ptr

[frank ridge]

im not gonna go deepdive some elses logs for you

[wild dune]

your the one that made the claim

[digital berry]

We’re not even dooming this time, balance is currently beyond bad

[wild dune]

idk if you realize how the world works when you graduate high school but discord is a 18+ application so

[frank ridge]

and you made another claim on top of my claim, don't act like im the only one who needs to show proof here

[jaunty blaze]

You are the one backing nothing up though

[wild dune]

emnithy has backed up more evidence then u bub

[primal oriole]

im so lost but oh well

[fossil crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pidgeon-crying-depression-bird-funny-gif-27017044

[digital berry]

There’s currently two screenshots posted today of tettles in ptr keys doing 10% more then tank in overall

[frank ridge]

kinda hard to throw a discussion here when someone says "can't trust icyveins" like his teammates agreed to do less damage than him on purpouse so he can prove that balance doesnt need more buffs lmao

[wild dune]

dude im just asking for a log

thats it

surely you can provide it

maybe a vod

[digital berry]

I wouldn’t put it past them haters to do that tbh

Also idk if you know what a joke is

[frank ridge]

sorry missed that one

all g

[digital berry]

I dissed tettles in the next message

Thought that’d make it clearer

[lofty depot]

It's generally just frogs coming in here saying boomkin is op and parroting from 3 week old tests

Or people that listen to Twitter/YouTube dorks complaining about boomkin being meta "again" when mage has been better for longer

Then we get called bug abusers for using/playing around stuff when we actively try to get cringe shit nerfed. Then get called sandbaggers the next sentence

[digital berry]

The whole balance Druids are sandbaggers thing I will not understand

At least since df s1 we’ve literally been shit every season and needed tons of buffs to be still shit but a lil less

[lofty depot]

SL because 1 person said in a guide u should play 1 covenant when u shouldve played a different one

[digital berry]

1 guy huh

Wonder who it was

[lofty depot]

Ele got all those buffs hm

[twin lotus]

8% huh

[lofty depot]

8% of 0

[twin lotus]

it do be joever

[warm ridge]

Are the tettles screenshots after the 8% buff?

[lofty depot]

They are from the stream he did after the buffs yes

Feel free to go watch it

[warm ridge]

Thanks!

[jaunty blaze]

Hope the bench will be comfy

[fossil crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sit-bench-gif-4667535

[crisp scaffold]

8% not good enough?

[meager storm]

will have to wait for the apl to work

but prob not

[past tide]

Was 2

3

[edgy coral]

Still down bad

[cloud plover]

Balance druid is perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

[royal zenith]

never heard that joke before!!

[cloud citrus]

8% every week by week 2 we will be top dps

feeling it

[prisma basalt]

8% Damage buff makimg us viable again?

[oak condor]

no no and no

8% of 0 is still 0

[prisma basalt]

Sad faces

[cloud plover]

viable enough to play the spex

good enough

still gonna do top dps in dungeons when compared to the avg pug creature

[tender elbow]

Your mother dropped you on the head or something?

[serene bolt]

wutkoedern bei den gleichgewichtsdruiden

[cloud plover]

Maul halten

fire druid bozo

[serene bolt]

[true anvil]

back to retribution loladin

[celest geode]

Is there anywhere that has PTR Builds/trinket recomendations?

[pulsar storm]

Boomkin buff 🙂

[upper surge]

If I screw up and enter lunar eclipse on ST do I use starfire or spam wrath anyway despite not being in eclipse? I'm assuming that if screw up and go into solar I still spam starfire for aoe

[bronze torrent]

So how big of an indicator is Tettles' PTR performance? Is he the benchmark?

[pale swan]

He was trying his best

[bronze torrent]

Ok...any raidbosses where we need solar beam in omega?

[cloud lion]

Even if we dont need beam how u gona not pick it as talent?

[patent girder]

I think he meant that maybe he will play boomkin this tier only if there is a beam boss

[crisp badger]

gois i saw t hat they blanket buffed boomies by 8% damage

are we back????

[sick cargo]

no

[fossil crypt]

no

[crisp badger]

[jaunty blaze]

8% of 0 is still 0

[crisp badger]

what a shit buff

welp, at least i'll have the chance to try out a new spec

[pseudo pine]

So both dps speccs is bad for druids atm nice!

[slender dragon]

best dps don't mean best spec

hunter doing nothing in keys, hunter's mark is useless, no grip, longer kick, etc

[pulsar storm]

Try healer out lol

[crisp badger]

im probably gonna give spriest a go, wanted to play that for a while now

[pulsar storm]

Become tree

I'll be doing BM, because dinosaurs

[knotty edge]

is balance druid needed in raid? if we already got resto druid for buff

[rich jewel]

no

[next wadi]

guess no

[night silo]

BM nerfed hard

hunter dead probably like balance

[crisp topaz]

Hunter is fine, MM still does insane damage on ptr

[velvet temple]

are we still alive with the 8% dmg buff?

[pulsar storm]

MM? Doesn't sound like BM

[crisp topaz]

Eh, bm is bm. It should do less for being basically something you can play with no limbs

[cloud plover]

still? alive

interesting wording

[bronze torrent]

yeh true, decided to reroll like a month or so ago as our boomie rerolled to lock

i left the tank position to contribute to our dps (we got a big variety in skill level in our guild); but as it looks rn boomie won't REALLY contribute 😄

[jaunty blaze]

not more or less than previous seasons

[leaden lark]

What's the numbers on sp now? Is it good?

[jaunty blaze]

what is sp

shadow priest?

ask in the priest discord about that

[cloud plover]

spell power duh

[jaunty blaze]

[signal temple]

[iron flicker]

From my rough testing on PTR, vw shadow priest is like 10% ahead of EC boomkin in ST if you don't account for motw. Kotg boomkin seems really bad

[scarlet tapir]

ur fault for boasting about 200M starsurges

[iron flicker]

It’s even worse on AoE. Starfall sucks now.

[dense steeple]

I dont have it but I have run 23 characters through this week. Not including the other 14 I ran every other week

[ebon plover]

We are so back

8% flat buff

huge

[misty patrol]

Is kotg behind EC in ST now?

[drifting nova]

incredibly based

[misty patrol]

[jaunty blaze]

dont think it is

[cloud plover]

please I pray to God

remove kotg from play

🙏🏻

[candid smelt]

Any Idea how Long the belt will be bis in season 3. I hate delves...

[wild dune]

It's already removed

Better learn feral buddy

[digital berry]

Probably most of the season

[candid smelt]

Fml

[digital berry]

Why would you do any delves bro

It’s over

The belt is max upgraded

[digital berry]

It’s always been

[candid smelt]

I didnt Play Like 2 month

[digital berry]

Oh

It’s like 5 delves to max it out

[misty patrol]

Playing EC in raid sounds pretty poo

[digital berry]

We did it like once

[misty patrol]

Yeah and it wasnt great imo

[digital berry]

And it was barely better then kotg even then

I refused to play ec on silken

[unkempt crescent]

Has there been any update beyond what’s on compendium for balance on PTR. Are people still playing keeper in m+ or back to elune?

[misty patrol]

I tried it a couple reclears

But I was doing webs so it was just cringe

Skill issue perhaps

[digital berry]

We are too busy dooming to play ptr

[misty patrol]

[unkempt crescent]

It’s that bad eh

[digital berry]

Worst st in the game and probably third worst aoe

Starfall hits like a wet noodle

[stuck meadow]

i think belt is bis until you get a 710+ belt or lies?

[unkempt crescent]

[digital berry]

We’ll have to sim it to see

[unkempt crescent]

Surely they will fix it

[digital berry]

There is absolutely no way to know

[light seal]

Fix it to be better than 750 maybe

[digital berry]

Belt is not as strong as ring so I doubt will be bis all season

[sick terrace]

for raid content is the buff enough ? Or are we still dawgshit

[unique remnant]

8% BUFF

[jaunty blaze]

enough to provide the motw buff to your raidgrp

[misty patrol]

[summer kayak]

Where it says ?

[jaunty blaze]

ptr patch notes from last night

[digital berry]

It’s nowhere near enough most likely , we are still going to be dead last as it stands in dps, maaaaybe we beat Aug now

[scenic mist]

aug got a big up

[digital berry]

Aug getting bigger buffs then balance is insane

[errant flint]

What year is it?

[digital berry]

The year I finally reroll probably cause damn does blizz hate balance

[errant flint]

I’m finally trying TO reroll to balance. Holding out hope for sims to prove me wrong but thats fading.

I guess I’ll keep it geared and hope for buffs after rwf.

[digital berry]

Nobody can be bothered to even fix the apl since balance has been dog for so long

[daring gull]

are we so back with the aura buff or are we still dooming?

[lucid olive]

they buffed us and then buffed all the other specs around us

dont see how anything could change

[daring gull]

kinda what figured

dooms still on the menu woohoo

[lofty depot]

Sim ain't gonna help u

[lofty depot]

Compendium gets updated week of patch or raid week.

[lucid olive]

probably updating for new season a few hours before NA reset

when the raid launches

[unkempt crescent]

ty

[glad spade]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-day-are-you-ready-for-some-football-gif-16278812894835706568

[lofty depot]

Emnithy not helping fix the apl, smh

[pallid bay]

?

[autumn raven]

insane

[lofty depot]

Type shit

[lucid olive]

hey dont be stealing my thumbnail

[lofty depot]

He thinks ur not hard at work

He doesn't appreciate u

[autumn raven]

i love it

[jaunty blaze]

practicing my sitting already

[pseudo merlin]

stop typing in here, fix it

[normal pilot]

you don't need sim from bench

[pseudo merlin]

oh shit

[lofty depot]

Don't need a guide either, revult and don't write it

[glacial spindle]

Boomkin looking as bad as people are saying next tier? I want to main it but not if I'm playing Dornagal simulator

[lucid olive]

yes

[jaunty cliff]

guys, do you have a macro to cast mouseover, if no mouseover cast my self?

[lofty depot]

What r u trying to macro that needs that

[jaunty cliff]

remove corruption

[lofty depot]

Also,.think there's an option in the game settings that does that

[glacial spindle]

#showtooltip
/use [@mouseover,help,nodead][help,nodead][@player] Remove Corruption

[jaunty cliff]

ty!

[pseudo pine]

I guess we are still quite fucked even with these small buffs last night?

Just gotta realize its a bench angle for boomies untilnwe get more buffs if we dont get more before S3

[lofty depot]

Other bottom specs getting buff with us

8% is a shut up and stop asking number

[scenic mist]

i dont get how wr100+ yap about bench

[glacial spindle]

That begs the question. How does Resto druid look so far?

[lofty depot]

Is good

[cloud citrus]

they are talking about a bug bigger then our tier set atm in the other discord

[lofty depot]

Well, yea u should be fine if ur above 300

Just play better than ur bottom 5 dps ezpz

[scenic mist]

like for 99% of raiding population, personal skill largely prevails over class capabilities

[lofty depot]

Who is they, and what bug

[cloud citrus]

the resto druid bug with efflo instantly getting 6 blooms

[scenic mist]

probably another arcane mage

[balmy light]

i was right 02.30 yday

[pseudo pine]

I mean as a massove enjoyer of rwf i think its very boring when it ends up with stacking 10x of one class

[scenic mist]

boomy not being in rwf comp doesnt mean 10x stack of one class

[wild dune]

when did they last stack 10x of the same class

rogue for zul?

[lucid olive]

newsflash

wow has no competitive integrity

tuning and balancing around rwf is a negative

[errant flint]

Truuuu. Very cringe to do that.

[jaunty blaze]

i mean thats kind of impossible anyway

[lofty depot]

1/10 gj

[lofty depot]

When did they stack 10 of 1 class

Was it 5 or 6 monks is close I suppose but ww hasn't been giga good like that ever... 2-3 mages think for most fights

[wild dune]

i know method ran 5 rogues for world first zul

def not 10 of the same class

[lofty depot]

Yea but in the last 5 raids since SL

[crisp scaffold]

Wait a bit ,you guys play boomie cuz its good in raid ?

[fervent merlin]

No

[crisp scaffold]

I keep seeing comments about raid tunning ,but Idk if blizz thinks that druid balance is a raid class

[lofty depot]

Well they're not a m+ spec at this point so

And that is basically where ele is aswell

Ele often times doesn't bring enough to warrant it over enh

[crisp scaffold]

Ele is good in raid ,at least from what Ive seen

[pseudo pine]

Ofc not, not what in meanign either 10x was just an example taking out of thin air for the purpose of getting an example out

[crisp scaffold]

damage wise

[lofty depot]

Last time it was ever rwf?

[crisp scaffold]

Not rwf ,but its good in the right hands

[lofty depot]

Ok, so is boomkin

Moving the goal post is fun

[pseudo pine]

It was just an example, i know that havent happend, damn people gotta chill down!

[lofty depot]

It hasn't happen since classic

[livid jay]

yea arctic chill...

[lofty depot]

So it's just a shit example

U could've said 5

[fervent merlin]

Yea pretty much every class is good if u play good

[lofty depot]

U said 10

Unforch

[pseudo pine]

i could also have said 4 or 3 or 6, xD

[whole nebula]

Honestly just depressing seeing boomie in this state

[lofty depot]

It's been in this state for 6 tiers

[livid jay]

im out of the loop what state are we in

[lofty depot]

Idk what u mean

[lofty depot]

Ohio

[livid jay]

will i dominate my guildies in early keys next season

[pseudo pine]

on god, we have played csgo alot together holyf!

[livid jay]

or will they dominate me

[whole nebula]

Luuuuuul

[lofty depot]

Well ur not doing Boomie keys so, dom'd on the bench

[livid jay]

im not doing boomie keys???

[lofty depot]

Nop

[livid jay]

THAT bad?

[lofty depot]

Sat

Go watch tettles

[livid jay]

aintnoway

[lofty depot]

Like idk what u think ur seeing

[livid jay]

i've not seen anything except 1 short of naguura being bottom dps thats why im asking 😄

[lofty depot]

Go watch his stream idk

[livid jay]

on it boss

[digital berry]

[wanton bone]

I should have done more research before rerolling boomy for s3 lol

[lofty depot]

I mean, u have 2 weeks to not reroll

U haven't rerolled yet

Just stop

[novel copper]

Stop dooming, be happy for a moment

Smile

[lofty depot]

I'm a mage

I'm pretty happy

[novel copper]

Good good

[wanton bone]

Lol i came from ret so ill stick with it and just see, tired of melee anyway

[jaunty blaze]

hot take but you will end up being fine

maybe not from the start but eventually

[lofty depot]

Generally sure it's annoying being on avg at the bottom. But if u play with shitters u can play better than them and be fine

Just play better

[novel copper]

Problem is being the shitter, need those %ages to keep up

[lofty depot]

Like I said, play better

Ur 90 parse might be their 70, just make fun of them

Then they'll be demoralized and play worse

[novel copper]

I just reroll every season until I’ve played em all

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/be-doo-be-doo-minion-despicable-me-alert-warning-gif-17785531

FOTM ALERT

[novel copper]

What better way to play all specs eventually

Started playing wow df s1

[drifting nova]

explains alot

[lofty depot]

Blud hasn't been thru what we've been thru

[drifting nova]

adhding out the wazoo

cant just stick to one class

[lofty depot]

"why arent u happy" blud u haven't been to war yet

[drifting nova]

D O P A M I N E

[novel copper]

Why would I stick to one class when the game has big variety

[lofty depot]

My sweet summer child

[drifting nova]

hmm yes

[lofty depot]

God damn zoomers need to be different every season or they're bored

[drifting nova]

I like apples

you change fruits every day

[lofty depot]

I like turtles

[drifting nova]

[lucid olive]

why are you bullying the guy for wanting to try out different stuff

[drifting nova]

because

[lucid olive]

get a life

[drifting nova]

off amazon or

[lofty depot]

Uve been bullied for less

[drifting nova]

only person worse than fotmers

is boosters

so 90% of you

[night gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-look-the-other-way-look-away-awkward-weird-gif-17246188

[pallid bay]

you dont play the game kekkers

[novel copper]

So where does that put me if I’ve done both?

[drifting nova]

just got to dread wastes actually

[livid jay]

i hope they're a zoomer

[lofty depot]

He's calculating

[livid jay]

those are at least capable of playing a new spec every season to a good level

if the boomers do it

its doomed af

[novel copper]

Grandpa takes a while

[drifting nova]

straight to jail

[novel copper]

Done a variation of healer and dps. Tanking is rough since you need to plan routing and such

[livid jay]

oh u are a minigamer?

[novel copper]

Well I did raid too, but don’t have the time to play certain times and days cus of my job

[digital berry]

Night shift or smth?

I can guarantee there’s a guild with a schedule that works for you unless your work schedule changes wildly every week

[lucid olive]

did you give discord your face yet

[livid jay]

ok time for a ptr key

[drifting nova]

no? plus I've got a nice little piccy for discord

hell even death stranding works

or using ai to fight ai

[lofty depot]

Lol my guild raids 11pm cst to 2am

[strong bronze]

Which guild is that arctic?

[solemn lantern]

yo are we cooked

for 11.2?

[strong bronze]

As of now , yes we are

[lofty depot]

Divine council

Can look up one of my toons easier prob

[lofty depot]

Not cooked, still raw

[wild dune]

oven aint even on

[signal temple]

Gasline isn't even connected

[jaunty blaze]

buffs tomorrow

[cloud citrus]

we have had our buffs we are done

really to pump the next tier

[twin lotus]

cant wait for the buffs tomorrow

[ionic oak]

+2 % all damage

[shy void]

let the druid exodus begin

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-started-begun-gif-19642703

[cloud plover]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-snow-jump-head-first-head-plant-gif-3666771

[jaunty blaze]

what da dog doin

[frigid yoke]

but with the 8 % dmg gain we do have a better start right 😛 we just fall behind when everyone has their S3 gear xD

[scenic mist]

every other low tier dps spec got around 8% buff at the same time we did so nothing changes

[frigid yoke]

nice atleast we know our place nothing changed. every ptr u get hyped and happy and then its gon

[pallid bay]

we're actually OP now

[true viper]

we r sooo op nowww

🤤

[scenic mist]

as in Officially Pathetic

[meager storm]

why lying to the people

[pallid bay]

big

[tulip snow]

enhance

[jaunty blaze]

Number

[meager storm]

another 1 min sim

[jaunty blaze]

Its the overall from an average bossfight

[pallid bay]

🫡

[jaunty blaze]

Lower number

[meager storm]

do we still have no apl

no shot its 4.8 with a good apl

if i knew how to do the apl i would

but i dont

[scenic mist]

[jaunty blaze]

[normal pilot]

actions=bench``` all the apl you need

[jaunty blaze]

So its 4.8 million seconds on bench

Got it

[meager storm]

thanks gas

[pallid bay]

gg

[loud kettle]

Finally, a good apl

[lucid olive]

[meager storm]

alright guys we can stop sandbagging now

[normal pilot]

don't forget about the /auto_attack

[meager storm]

pull up the 7 mil sim

[pallid bay]

can't autoattack

it procs dryads favor..

treants = good

[lucid olive]

love pressing wrath

[loud kettle]

smh

[pallid bay]

gg i win 5 seconds of work

[meager storm]

ok we are getting there

250k more

lets make it 5.5

thoughts

is that holding the trees for 2 globals so u have trees for the amped surges

[sudden pawn]

worse thats probably elunes

[loud kettle]

its ec ya

[nova ocean]

5.5 I would be happy with I feel that's the median they want this tier

[meager storm]

imagine EC on normal bosses, kotg on amped bosses

we are cooked

[scenic mist]

where does lomithar fall ?

[meager storm]

is that the bug

[nova ocean]

There's 2 or three amped bosses ?

[meager storm]

3

the bug boss just gives a 25% dmg buff for all the p2

[scenic mist]

araz + nexus king + dimensius

• lomithar if you count the p2

[nova ocean]

Ya guess that one should really count since its not burst

Shouldn't

[ebon plover]

We are so back

more boomkin buffs

[pallid bay]

at this rate we'll soon sim reasonable numbers

[meager storm]

there u go

[lucid olive]

can get rid of that wrath probably

[meager storm]

ye

[lucid olive]

I did some rough testing on 5m yesterday and it seemed like doing back to back CA on pull and then a regular 1 CA at 2m with trinket was better

wonder how that changes with 1:30m trinket as well

So like CA - Surge - Surge - Trees - Convoke - Wrath/Starsurge - CA - Surge - Surge

and then have AP pooled for the 2nd Dryad to despawn

[meager storm]

i mean having all the raid buffs, lust and stuff may help with capping all of them without having to do back to back

[lucid olive]

the sim has raid buffs

[meager storm]

i thought by testing u meant dummy

[scenic mist]

u dummy

[lucid olive]

sending back to back on pull was a substantial increase over sending separately

[meager storm]

what about single ca on pull, then back to back for the rest

[lucid olive]

I tried 1m Convoke too on a 2m sim

[meager storm]

since lust will carry first ca to cap

[lucid olive]

idk think capping the 2nd CA without convoke etc is hard without lust

[meager storm]

thats why u do back to back for the rest

1 ca/ 2cas/ 2cas

[lucid olive]

yes how are you gonna cap the 2nd ca without lust at 1 minute in

idk been tried a few iterations

[meager storm]

no saying capping 2nd ca, im saying using 2nd ca to cap 3rd

and 4th to cap 5th

[scenic mist]

why 2min sims tho ?

[shy iron]

did u test any incarn bounteous builds

[lucid olive]

yes incarn sucks

[lucid olive]

have to find out how to actually play the CD windows before writing APL logic for it

[pallid bay]

You have pot though

Doesn't make much sense to not utilize fully

[quiet drift]

Hyperfixating on the tier set minigame and getting lost in the sauce

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[jaunty cliff]

i see that many druid use 2 gems on this ring. how do i socket these? or just the mythic versions have socket?

[scenic mist]

jeweler magnificent setting

[pallid bay]

soon..

[jaunty cliff]

the only way to get this is through the artisan acuity vendor for 600 artisan acuity?

[scarlet tapir]

use potstop the capo

[scenic mist]

ah

it's like 300golds

[fallen relic]

Should Fluid Forms just give you skull bash? I cant seem to get it when speccing into it. I may be reading it wrong tho

[scenic mist]

it shouldnt

tooltip just means when playing feral/resto/guardian you'd shapeshift instant when pressing talented skull bash

[fallen relic]

Then whats the use-cases for it? Seems a bit lackluster, but seeing so many running it in higher keys

[scenic mist]

^

[loud kettle]

The use case for fluid form is to get back into moonkin form faster

cuz u go into bear for defensive purposes or roar(s)

(or sometimes cat/travel for speed)

[fallen relic]

Ohh that makes more sense then, thx!

[jaunty cliff]

oh i can get from AH. ty bro

[ebon plover]

we are SO back

a great day indeed

[lofty depot]

No

[obsidian tapir]

Back at the bottom

[ebon plover]

nah trust

i got the insider scoop

[lofty depot]

Ur inside scoop is fake

[ebon plover]

tettles said we were fine on twitter

i believe

[obsidian tapir]

Protein scoop ?

[lofty depot]

Tettles said we're fine, and what he meant was ele was fine

[ebon plover]

nah he said boomkin

stop doompilling

[meager storm]

guys

this may be it

[lofty depot]

5.4 or?

[meager storm]

i think its mm tier for me

[high holly]

Yarrgi said valance is dead

[lofty depot]

Soon tm

[meager storm]

yeah but

[ebon plover]

its a dev tier for me

[scarlet tapir]

fries -> bag

[meager storm]

i mean

i like gamba

and mm can gamba for like 8 mil

in 5 mins so

[lofty depot]

Dak is a known gamba-er

[obsidian tapir]

They can still do 8 mil ?

[lofty depot]

Plays EC for fun in raid

Procs

[meager storm]

their sim is like 5.7 mil

[lofty depot]

Go brr

[meager storm]

but the variance is insane

[lofty depot]

6m*

[lofty depot]

Their sim keeps going down

I don't trust their propaganda

[meager storm]

mm got nerfed yesterday

bm too

imagine

recruitie on survival

me on mm

gold on

hold

[obsidian tapir]

Hmm and balance is 5.2

[meager storm]

as usual we will not seem as bad cuz amp bosses

and get no buffs

[obsidian tapir]

Wont we suck even more because all bosses are aoe/cleave ?

[meager storm]

all bosses?

where did u get that from

[scenic mist]

i mean the only strictly ST boss is fractillus

[meager storm]

first boss has 2 easy adds during intermission

bug doesnt have adds just the webs u gotta st

st boss

2nd to last

[scenic mist]

not strictly

[meager storm]

has stacked adds

seems fine to me

[scenic mist]

well these are contexts where boomies are notoriously not gaining as much as others

[meager storm]

well "not strictly" doesnt mean a boss is not st

[scenic mist]

see above

there are cleave situations in every boss but fractilus

[meager storm]

again not cleave, most of them u have to st them down

[scenic mist]

most classes will cleave from

[shadow canyon]

Yo, don't have a mythic weapon. Use Ascension and armor banding. Was gonna swap to 2 duskthread lining, but sim is saying it's a 15k loss to do that.

[meager storm]

melee has to run out to dps the webs coming in

they lose down time

a lot of ranged have to hard swap

idk

nothing burger

[vital hound]

It's defo hard swaps not cleaves for lots of em

[scenic mist]

ascension is better for st

[vital hound]

Mandatory but optional boss is only real cleave

[shadow canyon]

15k dps loss aoe too

Just curious cause based on wcl, most balance druids use 2x duskthread

[meager storm]

ascension better if u dont have a mythic weapon

[shadow canyon]

ahhhh

[scenic mist]

cause they have mythic bis

[vital hound]

cause they have mythic bis

[shadow canyon]

valid

[scenic mist]

[vital hound]

[shadow canyon]

tyty

[lucid olive]

ascending

[meager storm]

omg

+40k

[pale swan]

[meager storm]

now do a sim

[lucid olive]

⏫

[meager storm]

with aug

tech

see how high it goes

since it will be a must

[summer kayak]

so..boomie it's back on track with this new buffs? or still crap on m+ content? did you manage to test it or heard about? for 11.2 ofc

[meager storm]

idk if dwilkz tested it

he has been maining league lately

[lucid olive]

i just smoked some people in a 14 eco dome on PTR

put them in the pack

[lofty depot]

Next season is also weird cuz u have less slots to craft on

[shadow canyon]

Ye I'm only making changes cause i need to get one of my embellishments off my cloak

[lofty depot]

Below avg

M+ who knows

[vital hound]

Bracer belt

[lofty depot]

Belt is funny 701

Don't at me

[loud kettle]

boomkin is saved

[lofty depot]

Mfw people come in here pressing. Trees like we do in s2

Tragic

[pale swan]

Just play aug,same numbers

https://tenor.com/view/pato-fumando-sonfys-pato-fumando-sonfys-gif-5554005238997164974

[south briar]

Hello there, do you think boomie will do good dps in next raid (11.2) ?

[true viper]

Yes

[south briar]

i saw the +8% up dps but dunno if its gonna be mandatory or not

[meager storm]

boomy will not be mandatory

[normal pilot]

if you want to regularly top dps look elsewhere

if you just like playing balance for no other reason than you like playing balance, then you can keep on playing

[south briar]

in fact im a gm trying to know how decent will be boomie, so i scrolled a bit but i wanna get your feeling about it :]
We already have a boomie dunno if its good enough to be doubled

[tawdry urchin]

Any VC gamers?

[lofty depot]

Can u define good

[south briar]

good enough to be doubled ?

[tawdry urchin]

We're VC room 1

[lyric thicket]

Is some pll cooking our sim atm ? The last screen i saw here was so low compare to other class

[lofty depot]

Not even close

[tawdry urchin]

@mighty mica Buffs tomorrow is spouting nonsense, can we timeout pls

[lofty depot]

U might see 1 on soul hunters, but there's better classes at 3t, so u likely wont

[meager storm]

yeah atm not even close

[south briar]

ok thx :]

[meager storm]

if u will double or triple anything

is a demo lock

[lofty depot]

Unless fight time lines up on nexus king where the amp is giga good for us

U likely won't see us on it either

[lofty depot]

Or mm

[mighty mica]

sure thing bud

[tawdry urchin]

Ty

[meager storm]

i would even argue on prog other specs with longer ramps will do better on 2nd to last boss

[south briar]

okay thank you for your time :]

[lofty depot]

Where was the nonsense

[meager storm]

cuz the shield amp lasts for quite a bit

[meager storm]

[meager storm]

well its fully gamba + pi

and pi will be taken

i think demo lock got stonks

[lucid olive]

missed u

[mighty mica]

too slow

[lucid olive]

was busy doing important stuff

jorkin it

[errant flint]

Very busy

[snow elm]

what sort of extra aura buff would boomie need to be middle of the pack

[errant flint]

Let me tell you, boomy needs jesus levels of aura buffs.

[lofty depot]

Buff spenders by 10%

[lucid olive]

buff the dryad

[lofty depot]

Maybe wrath

[normal pilot]

who's ready to parse with only one button

[calm ibex]

Oh no

[gloomy heath]

where is this from?

[lucid olive]

simulationcraft

[calm ibex]

Is that updated with the buffs?

Probably not yeah?

[lofty depot]

No cuz it's only 5m

[calm ibex]

Listen

I’m dumb

Ok

[lucid olive]

it is

[calm ibex]

ARTIC IS DUMB

WOOOO

[lofty depot]

No

It says sandbag

[normal pilot]

it always says sandbag

[lofty depot]

Smh, Kalamazi was rihht

[meager storm]

bro

is bro on an alt

dming everyone

silenced by big druid

[lofty depot]

Lol

I didn't see his message

I'm in nola

o7

[wild dune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1247923851426271444/1251403690754048031/28458348-DA48-4946-BE99-00AAB50B07C7.gif

[errant flint]

Grab me a beignet ty

[lofty depot]

We hav funnel cakes in nebraska

Basically same thing

[mighty mica]

you're weird

[vital hound]

he DM'd me lol

[mighty mica]

i know my place, i'm not claiming to be anything more

you're weird

[lofty depot]

I've never heard thymes voice :/

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[crisp topaz]

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cardano-lounge-band-music-pepe-gif-25956408

he will prob keep making accs

[lucid olive]

he's been in voice a lot but never with us

[lofty depot]

He hates us

[lucid olive]

i would too

[calm ibex]

@hollow mist

[hollow mist]

dont link my estrogen prescription in public channels plz...

[calm ibex]

I didn’t!

[hollow mist]

XD

[calm ibex]

I just linked it to you smh

[hollow mist]

thank u marwa

[calm ibex]

💕

[hollow mist]

I have enough empty bottles to make art with

[calm ibex]

Do iiiit

I knew someone who used her estrogen bottles as decoration for her guitar strap

Was sick as fuck

Scraped her information off of course

[hollow mist]

that is fire as hell wtf..

[calm ibex]

Right???

She was hot too

But that’s unrelated

[drifting nova]

cant believe you banned hytes

literally 1984

[calm ibex]

Who?

[mighty mica]

only the alt

[hollow mist]

still have to worry abt the hytes voice jumpscare..

[mighty mica]

well not anymore, things changed

[hollow mist]

ohhhh

[celest geode]

Is there a place that has trinket/tallent recomendations for PTR?

[lucid olive]

just play the same EC talents you do on live

[celest geode]

Sick ty

Ritual Forge/Voidcore for trinks?

[lucid olive]

ye sure

can take the lily of eternal weave trinket too instead of araz if u want

and then the staff that completes the 2pc with voidcore

[celest geode]

ty fam ❤️

[sour rampart]

It will be your only way of getting a hero track piece in your vault

[potent cargo]

u got any t injections

send em my way

tryna hop on

or do you only get given e

[lofty depot]

Gotta @ lorgok for the t injections

[calm ibex]

Trans girls are prescribed E though some get T gel for some less than sfw purposes

[lofty depot]

Less than sfw hm

[calm ibex]

I shan’t say more

Not about to be banned lmao

[meager storm]

@quiet drift check this guy's luck

[calm ibex]

Dak how much money have you spent on horse game

[meager storm]

Only 70 bucks

For the one 1 time only pack

[digital berry]

Only 70$ is insane for horse anime racing game

[meager storm]

This is a gacha game

The average is prob around 700

Or 1k

[digital berry]

I tend to spend like 100$ on gacha games before I get bored and don’t play any for 6 months

[meager storm]

That’s fair

[digital berry]

I got hella carried away with cookie run or whatever that was called

[calm ibex]

Not that bad

[digital berry]

Gacha games are a plague but I’m hooked

[cloud plover]

I don't know where cookie run came from but one day it just appeared on my twitter and there's people yapping lore and whatever like who are u what is this

[stuck meadow]

ptr on? anyone able to test boomie to see if its good?

[cloud plover]

brother boomie is as dead as it can be

[meager storm]

Boomy will be just as usual

Bottom 3

[iron chasm]

What we lack in dps we have in team spirit

Go balance!

[meager storm]

[iron chasm]

Positive vibes only Dak. We are gonna get three more 5% starsurge buffs this tier I can feel it

[lofty depot]

He's pretty positive he's playing mm

[vital hound]

booty giving oce a bad name

smh

[calm ibex]

I love that the Druid discord still has the pride logo

Hope it stays year round

[ebon plover]

We are so back

Huge buffs tmw

[vital hound]

up the gays

[cloud plover]

many discords do

it's comfy

[quiet drift]

Better triple check when crossing the road

[iron chasm]

Yeah fr

[digital berry]

Not sure oce’s reputation is cause by one single individual

It’s more of a collective

[delicate perch]

Need more slurs per message to be OCE

[late sapphire]

lol

not wrong

[clear pulsar]

someone needs to bring up a zinger box

[muted citrus]

tek

I accidentally clicked balance sorry

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/tzTN.gif

[delicate perch]

[stone ledge]

bout to make a meme build with full moon wtb sanity

[noble spindle]

if they dont buff boomie soon i might throw money at horse game

[stone ledge]

reroll horse game

[noble spindle]

my wallets condition depends on you blizzard

[stone ledge]

horse game doesnt send you to the glue factory like blizzard with boomies

[noble spindle]

i dont need to reroll i hit

[meager storm]

right

show kitasan

[meager storm]

[noble spindle]

thoughts on my new tachyon

[meager storm]

is that for medium

[noble spindle]

ye

[meager storm]

goodge

[noble spindle]

im testing her in 2400m rn and she dies at the finish line

and that was without her ult going off

looking goodge

[spare dune]

So I roll a Balance. Thinking I’m good for next Season and make my way here only to read that it is going to be anus

[north stag]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[bronze quail]

I kind of did the same lol

Except I always had a balance alt

[noble spindle]

boomkins have yet to learn the art of sandbag

[spare dune]

Whats your plan now?

[delicate perch]

[cloud plover]

ty for this image

its making everyone go omega crazy

my friend and his whole friend group and disc goig nuts

[bronze quail]

Im sticking to it probably

[gusty mountain]

mk

[tulip snow]

low key I'm cookin

I'm half right so far

mods, validate the timeline

[sonic surge]

is there a bug with gallywix where he sometimes hits u guys for pre-casting wrath even tho ur wrath lands after the 1st instance of damage?

mythic gally

[stuck meadow]

has happened to me before

but go explain that to the guild

[errant flint]

https://tenor.com/view/nino-brown-meme-gif-12573636828218859098

[zenith goblet]

Tettles can we get another 8%

[digital berry]

as if that would be enough

[idle helm]

Everything I’m reading is boomy isn’t going to be good? Is that true? What’s going to me meta

[wild dune]

meta for what

[lucid olive]

I heard about it happening during the first few weeks where he'd attack you for starting the cast, but haven't seen it happen or heard about it since

[wild dune]

boomie is pretty bad in all content rn given current tuning but it wont matter if you arent playing at a top end level, just play better than your co-raiders

[royal zenith]

where buffs

[wild dune]

nowhere

mm gear check?

[drowsy sedge]

hello maybe a silly qeustion but how would u guys sim dungeons 5 targets 1.5min?

[lucid olive]

1 target 5 minutes or MDT Sim

Check the FAQ in the Compendium

[plucky valley]

Finally we’re buffed!

That’s what I’m gonna say when we get buffed

[lofty depot]

It's if u pull the boss

Tanks are likely taunting before u so it doesn't happen

[lucid olive]

nah, heard the boss just kill you for starting the cast

at like 3s on timer

[lofty depot]

At 3 seems odd

Maybe they're standing too close

[lucid olive]

haven't heard it since like the first patch though

[lofty depot]

His hitbox is massive... Stand on edge

[digital berry]

god demo is a boring class to play

[drifting nova]

is it still send pet

and guldan bomb

[digital berry]

its 20s cd pet 30s cd pet 1m cd pet 2m cd pet

and you just pretty much cast on cd as far as i understand it

[dense steeple]

i love when i spam timewalkigns and i queue with one of these fuckers

[drifting nova]

come back

armour when

[errant flint]

Been having that issue on gally where someone pulls 1s early before tank but the early puller doesnt always die. It’s usually whoever else is closest to the boss????

🥞

[lofty depot]

Shrug, fuggn noobs pulling at 1

[teal sphinx]

Isn't this like not the bis anymore

[dense steeple]

idk

he was soloing bosses i didnt pull so

[warm ridge]

any good boomies streaming ptr runs? tettles is resto

[dense steeple]

thats because tettles isnt a boomy

[lofty socket]

It still is, they still do 1-2mm dps.

[warm ridge]

thanks, still would love to know some other boomies, can't seem to find any

[lofty depot]

Wouldn't be surprised if u didn't see any in the near future

[dense steeple]

^

[lofty depot]

Can go watch tettles stream from yesterday and possibly the day before

But spec is dogass

[fossil hemlock]

It's still super strong but not as OP as before, you can easily beat them on a decent char

But their rotation is just 1 button and they're practically unkillable

[teal sphinx]

Ngl kinda happy for that

I miss twinking

[fossil hemlock]

I think there are apps you can get for your phone for that

[teal sphinx]

Not around here partner

[quiet swan]

havent paid too much attention, what was the buffs?

[wild dune]

8%

[nova ocean]

Wait is tettles legit resto or just meming

I know I say him ptr testing boomy atleast a couple days ago

[lofty depot]

Por que son los dos

[dense steeple]

he wont get a raid inv on his druid if hes boomy soo

[nova ocean]

I know nothing about his current guild

[dense steeple]

theyre good

[lofty depot]

5.2 sim, it's fineeeeeeeee

Surely we got good timings

[river depot]

soooo what are we rerolling to

[lofty depot]

Might stay bamkin for the people

Mage tho

[river depot]

Or we stayin on the

[lofty depot]

Type shit

[clever vigil]

Twin

[slender dragon]

what is boomy ? new tank class ?

[wild dune]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-cat-glorp-cat-glerp-alien-gif-1655357165594988381

[slender dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/d%26d-serenity-balance-angry-d%26d-druid-gif-11302555284097836440

[lofty depot]

Well boomy is a spec

Ur orange bar is resto

[lofty depot]

Tarisantm too

Gotta keep track of all the homies

[clever vigil]

love antm

dmilkz never sees the light of day or we could start making the infinity gauntlet