#balance
dense steeple
wild dune
how is this still going on
errant flint
For my entertainment
chrome sable
how is this still going on
It was a quick recap of what we learnt today (nothing)
errant flint
Just like everyday
chrome sable
You gotta be more open minded
errant flint
I wont make that joke here
Id surely get banned for that
I dont usually get banned in online places
lofty depot
Like mayo or
lofty depot
Ranch
wild dune
?????
inland forge
Okay I'm losing my mind, why is my convoke 15 seconds late some pulls for the second use? Surely it's the Keeper talent but what happens to make it be like this only some pulls?
digital berry
Okay I'm losing my mind, why is my convoke 15 seconds late some pulls for the se...
Read the compendium and the bug section of it
There’s a bug with control hero talent
Still no ptr changes btw ?
drifting nova
dry compass
dg chatters rise up
round field
What year is it
round field
Okay I'm losing my mind, why is my convoke 15 seconds late some pulls for the se...
Get the funny weakaura
Control of the dream something something
inland forge
Found it, saved my life thank you
jaunty cliff
guys, how does loggin works? like.. i have the warcraft logs app, and i have method raid tools addons cuz i know ill forget to start logging with command. in theory, method addon will log to me once i entered the selected content in the logging settings. do i need to manually upload through "upload a log" tab in the warcraft app everytime? or i just need to hit "Go!" button on "live log" tab and he will always upload automatically my logs once the raid is done?
scarlet tapir
dg chatters rise up
somaloria in logs? this has to be 10 years ago
digital berry
guys, how does loggin works? like.. i have the warcraft logs app, and i have met...
You can do either, you can upload a whole log after raid night or live log the whole night
jaunty cliff
You can do either, you can upload a whole log after raid night or live log the w...
so in order to live log, i just hit "Go!" and with method raid tools, i dont need to use /combatlog to start recording right?
dense steeple
dg chatters rise up
Why is my name so close to chicken what metric is this
dry compass
US boomie allstars
twin lotus
cant wait fir buffs tomorrow
lofty depot
Why is my name so close to chicken what metric is this
Ur really good
lofty depot
Type shit
scarlet tapir
US boomie allstars
chicken isnt even NA sus
dry compass
idk maybe its an na impostor
exotic stump
Chicken is all around us
dry compass
or maybe @vale pebble is invading
lofty depot
Maybe they're gonna be 51st state
vale pebble
signal temple
Chicken is all around us
Arise chicken
Chicken arise
lucid olive
balance channel is saved
lofty depot
W gastank
normal pilot
moonkin players aren't allowed to carry sharp edges
exotic stump
Knives as sharp as our minds
signal temple
moonkin players aren't allowed to carry sharp edges
Thankfully we have our wits
lofty depot
U mean we have gastank
jaunty cliff
@lofty depot https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/rodzindru?boss=3016
is it right now? or i made something wrong?
quiet drift
moonkin players aren't allowed to carry sharp edges
scarlet tapir
Extraemily i swear it was NOT that funny
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/rodzindr...
oh were playing ec
ok when ur starting a pack u dont want to use woe there
because ur wasting dreamstate stacks
also, macro berserking to incarn along with natures vigil
also... this incarn should be on just before the surge global
also likely didnt need that 4th starfire u couldve sent surges to get starlord up faster
but ec in raid on st with aoe talents isnt gonna teach u much past cadence
i didnt realize u were talking about m+ we i initially told u to go do lfr
which shouldve been go do a key
dense steeple
Guys how do i sim dslice its not letting me
lofty depot
REKT
jaunty cliff
which shouldve been go do a key
yea, i wasnt raiding cause i thought id mess up other people runs. so i just stuck to m+, but since i was already doing very bad, so i wanted to start figuring out where i was messing up
lofty depot
also when u think about spending asp, dont think of it has i need to get to 100% or i need to dump to 0%
jaunty cliff
but i didnt like raids either. but ill eventually need to do it in order to get upgrade gears
jaunty cliff
also when u think about spending asp, dont think of it has i need to get to 100%...
alright
nova ocean
Just checking 20 percent aura buff yet?
vital hound
exotic stump
Think my wowhead page is frozen? I can't see today's massive buffs
loud kettle
Think my wowhead page is frozen? I can't see today's massive buffs
? Its tomorrow
vital hound
? Its tomorrow
? its yesterday
loud kettle
hmm, it is tomorrow's yesterday I suppose
lucid olive
tomorrow is a constant everchanging time
lucid olive
who is time
pale whale
tomorrow never arrives
vital hound
ive had 9 days today
loud kettle
That kind of week
errant flint
Time is fake
lofty depot
press wildcharge innit
loud kettle
hmmm
cloud plover
press wildcharge innit
this was wild charge
lofty depot
thats the wrong way
cloud plover
it was the right way in all the wrong ways
loud kettle
It led to a positive result
lofty depot
it was the right way in all the wrong ways
u cant park there
jaunty cliff
ive been getting the same error for 3 days straight when trying to sim on raidbots. anyone else had this issue or know a fix?
wicked shuttle
What’re you simming?
tulip snow
? Its tomorrow
wicked shuttle
? Its tomorrow
Soon
wild dune
wheres my 3% aura
cloud plover
where's my buffs to EC
tulip snow
we're gonna get a aura buff and a promise that a moonkin update happens half way through the season
vital hound
wheres my 3% aura
aura dn
cloud plover
orbital strike buffed by 350%
wild dune
- reduces incarn cd by 120 seconds
tulip snow
putting it all on manual mushrooms
cloud plover
Wrath now hits all enemies affected by Sunfire.
vital hound
stellar flare damage increased by 600%
jaunty cliff
What’re you simming?
im trying to check between my trinkets which one is better
lucid olive
can you provide a bigger screenshot of what the error is
specifically what it says in the grey box
wicked shuttle
You just copied directly from your simc addon?
glossy jungle
Got an early preview of the buffs tomorrow
wicked shuttle
And are using topgear?
glossy jungle
lucid olive
and then a screenshot of what this box looks like
wicked shuttle
Yeah the error you get looks like something when you’re doing advanced sims or PTR sims, but hard to tell without what gamz is saying
jaunty cliff
<https://www.raidbots.com/reset>
ty man. it worked after i reset it
cosmic horizon
Howdy.. 😄 I've been a little absent from WoW the last few weeks and wanted to prepare my character a little. Then I see any patch notes from PTR and how “destroyed” balance is? (The extreme damage was apparently a bug?) Is things really that bad for the biggy owl or is it just cooked hotter than it is?
lofty depot
the extreme damage wasnt a bug
and yes, they nerfed the tier/surge by 40% and didnt compensate buff us
if they left the 5% total damage done and held it at 50x spell power, we would be doing the same damage giga surges
but they cut the cap in half
cosmic horizon
I read that it was a bug with the tier set and KotG and switching forms from bear into owl that was stacking a buff
lofty depot
thats not a bug
the tier damage cap was based on our health
us going into bear to make the cap bigger isnt a bug
wild dune
simply a tier set designed by a dev that doesn't play the game 
lofty depot
stupid warlocks making stupid things up
cosmic horizon
It is a bug when it shouldnt do that 😄
delicate perch
It is a bug when it shouldnt do that 😄
were you the dev
cosmic horizon
That the stacking from switching was to high, but i could be wrong. Just saw it on yt
delicate perch
found him boys, get him
lofty depot
That the stacking from switching was to high, but i could be wrong. Just saw it ...
again
cosmic horizon
😄
cosmic horizon
Who? 😄
delicate perch
stop listening to kalamazi about classes he doesnt play
stop listening to kalamazi about classes he doesnt play
lofty depot
it was 50% of our max hp
elder remnant
stop listening to kalamazi*
delicate perch
lofty depot
"it stacked too high" is a design flaw from the dev not a bug
they want us to form swap, until we do funny things that increase damage
elder remnant
lofty depot
then they say stop that
well, they probably didnt think we would form swap, but nonetheless
but still, not the definition of a bug
cosmic horizon
Ok, you brought me the light sir
elder remnant
well, they probably didnt think we would form swap, but nonetheless
well, they probably didnt think we would form swap, but nonetheless
lofty depot
well, they probably didnt think ~~we would form swap, but nonetheless~~
rae so insightful
are bufs live yet?
lucid olive
The only bugs were the dryad not doing any damage or doing way too much damage
lofty depot
yea but they think the hp thing was a bug
and those people jsut dont know things and should stop parroting
lucid olive
It is what it is
elder remnant
are bufs live yet?
What buf
errant flint
They said buffs tomorrow
lucid olive
Arctic
nova ocean
Tomorrow did
lofty depot
They said buffs tomorrow
tomorrow for sure
elder remnant
Arctic very reliable for sure
errant flint
I only hear that in the spongebob voice "tomorrow for sure"
nova ocean
Naw I think they are done. They like a 3million dps spread
lofty depot
I only hear that in the spongebob voice "tomorrow for sure"
good
lucid olive
lofty depot
Arctic very reliable for sure
well if its always tomorrow and never today...
cosmic horizon
thats pretty deep
elder remnant
I maintain the Boomie dev has a degradation and shame kink
nova ocean
It's always yesterday and never tomorrow
elder remnant
Why else would they be this 
lofty depot
I maintain the Boomie dev has a degradation and shame kink
well he is a feral so
maybe hes taking it out on us for the years of oppression vs the ferals
elder remnant
I think you’re giving him too much credit
nova ocean
That would explain a lot
lofty depot
I think you’re giving him too much credit
i think i didnt go far enough tbh
elder remnant
I genuinely don’t believe they are that intelligent
You can’t be this useless at your job for both specs
For this long
lofty depot
sure they can
elder remnant
BaLaNcE
lofty depot
look at ele
errant flint
Its in the name after all Balance
elder remnant
nova ocean
That's easy it kinda doesn't splash anymore
lofty depot
lucid olive
They forgot the Starsurge splash nerf innit
glossy jungle
love some good paycheck stealers. blizzard are the best at it
elder remnant
You know boomkin is in shambles when gore is in here
lofty depot
They forgot the Starsurge splash nerf innit
well like 50% forgot
lucid olive
Nerfed tooltip
normal pilot
it's not stealing if you give it over willingingly
cosmic horizon
At least none of you lose your sense of humor
lofty depot
love some good paycheck stealers. blizzard are the best at it
well first it he was milk
lucid olive
I pay my sub in gold
lofty depot
At least none of you lose your sense of humor
i got nothing left
glossy jungle
failing to do you job but still getting paid
normal pilot
sounds like success
delicate perch
did they?
lofty depot
can u log in?
elder remnant
Maybe they’re taking some under the table cash from other specs to keep Druids in the dirt
lucid olive
Patch isn't out yet I wouldn't speak so soon..
delicate perch
idk raids over not trying
cosmic horizon
Maybe they’re taking some under the table cash from other specs to keep Druids i...
mage for sure
lucid olive
Maybe they’re taking some under the table cash from other specs to keep Druids i...
Kalamazi paying them off
normal pilot
tbf it doesn't need to be playable
lucid olive
The dev team are Max chatters
delicate perch
Maybe they’re taking some under the table cash from other specs to keep Druids i...
tettles so he can go back to aug
elder remnant
Kalamazi would
normal pilot
you'll all pay for a nonplayable game wiating for it to be playable
elder remnant
tettles so he can go back to aug
The rdruid main himself
lofty depot
ncsoft really good at that
lucid olive
Tettles is gonna ride the Nurfed bench innit
delicate perch
The rdruid main himself
bros going to go bald
lucid olive
That's the moonkin spot
delicate perch
That's the moonkin spot
god I hope so
lucid olive
Sat for @brave gulch for the MOTW spot unlucky
delicate perch
give me a cozy afk tier
lucid olive
Can't wait to see Tettles shit on Phased on the meters
lofty depot
actually, aug might do more damage than bamkin so could play that
lucid olive
Put that guy in his place honestly
elder remnant
Phased is bis
delicate perch
hes gonna blast
elder remnant
I should have never rolled off healer
brave gulch
hello
elder remnant
This dumb bitch rolled Boomie s2 DF not even s1
lucid olive
So you're the reason it's gone downhill since then?
elder remnant
Maybe
normal pilot
unlucky
lofty depot
unluggi
elder remnant
loud kettle
unluigi
cosmic horizon
The pain must be deep if my question triggers something like that. Or it's just always so weird
delicate perch
delicate perch
The pain must be deep if my question triggers something like that. Or it's just ...
#2
elder remnant
The pain must be deep if my question triggers something like that. Or it's just ...
It was weirder
delicate perch
#whereispaper
errant flint
Its always weird here
elder remnant
#bringbackpaper
lofty depot
The pain must be deep if my question triggers something like that. Or it's just ...
i promise nothing u did has any effect on how the channel is
lofty depot
csh maybe
errant flint
Or or you could channel your inner paper and do it yourself
delicate perch
lofty depot
she could
torpid arch
in raid how do we use convoke since it doesnt line up with CA do we just send it with trees or do we hold for CA?
errant flint
Dont need paper if you can be paper
elder remnant
@mighty mica an appeal 
lofty depot
in raid how do we use convoke since it doesnt line up with CA do we just send it...
trees on cd
ca with trees
convoke with ca
elder remnant
Dont need paper if you can be paper
I need paper
lofty depot
with that thought, u hold ca generally
elder remnant
I could never be
elder remnant
with that thought, u hold ca generally
Hold ca gently
lucid olive
Fondle CA
lucid olive
Sandortharion..
errant flint
lofty depot
Cup the CA
elder remnant
I’m becoming a Minecraft POE mage main
lofty depot
I’m becoming a Minecraft POE mage main
i wish u luck in your future endeavors
elder remnant
i wish u luck in your future endeavors
Bro I am slinging fireballs fighting sea monsters this is so much more fun than wow
lofty depot
trueeeeeeeeeeeeeee
wicked shuttle
<@140655388730064896> an appeal <a:crysadbeg:1333347996024176730>
Denied
lucid olive
potent cargo
free my dogs robo and paper
lofty depot
You’re not thyme I WANT THYME
hes got no thyme for u
potent cargo
elder remnant
free my dogs robo and paper
Free robo is crazy
potent cargo
for the crimes comitted in the grove free him up
lock him up outside for anything outside this jurisdiction
errant flint
4180 pages of papercups posts
jc
104,492 results
I thought I was chronically online. I am no match.
dense steeple
hmmm see bm hunter 7.4m sim then see sheet with 6m
source
lofty depot
which one
dense steeple
whats the sheet sources
lofty depot
wouldnt u like to know
errant flint
is this result with or without lust?
lofty depot
lust, all buff, no pi
errant flint
afaik the mimiron sim also has no pi but full buff also during lust
low 6mil to high 9mil spread is crazy
lofty depot
afaik the mimiron sim also has no pi but full buff also during lust
both of them are mim sims, theyre from ptr
has lust tho
errant flint
remember when they junked all the new M+ affixes for tww and gave us these? Yea can they do that for boomy tier set too.
Meaning they can change alot in a matter of a short time.
keen plaza
delicate perch
thank you
dense steeple
Fun fact: that style crawg is my SV pet. Lil ugmo.
fun fact i will never ride this dogshit mount
its a drop in the bucket
errant flint
Ah 2022 papercups starts getting spicy
errant flint
fun fact i will never ride this dogshit mount
Same. Its ugly and now its a number in my collection.
dense steeple
might hit 200 on FH today
delicate perch
might hit 200 on FH today
dense steeple
moletivities?
sir
i have more mounts than you thought obtainable
you think this is an end of season fancy buff thing for me
errant flint
How long have you been playing wow?
dense steeple
19 years 
errant flint
I have been playing 9 years less than you so you should have way more mounts than me.
Cant win if you stop so yea keep going.
errant flint
way too much pink here
dense steeple
paladins get a free racial mount
and prot pal is one of the easiest specs to dungeon level with
its not that i enjoy paladin
its that its the ideal dungeon leveler
errant flint
Enjoy your pinkies, but show me crackers when you get him.
dense steeple
i think im done with the pinkies actually
ebon plover
are we back
dense steeple
we never left
ebon plover
yeah but now we are tank dps
lucid olive
You're beating the tanks?
delicate perch
why would you go on the internet just to lie
errant flint
Bc you were home
lofty depot
nawl the nerfed us twin
until u see new balance changes no
ebon plover
did they buff it ?
vital hound
@lofty depot where notes
ebon plover
hopium
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> where notes
tomorrow for sure
delicate perch
did they buff it ?
you are very bright
vital hound
tomorrow for sure
its already tomorrow
lofty depot
No it's not
errant flint
He's right its still today
lofty depot
Always today never tomorrow
delicate perch
its already tomorrow
bozos living in the past
errant flint
then buffs today
vital hound
bozos living in the past
bozo bezos
lofty depot
Well I keep asking the oce people if we're buffed yet tomorrow and they keep lying
delicate perch
delicate perch
loud kettle
Classic
delicate perch
nah trust (do not trust)
lofty depot
All these liars man
vital hound
who the FUCK is that guy
delicate perch
who the FUCK is that guy
probably lives in perth
vital hound
eternal zealot
hi, im a rdruid who might have to flex boomie next tier so i want to practice a bit, what hero talents are looking more likely for raid for season 3? i know its not out yet but is there a 'this one is more likely rn' one?
lofty depot
None, u'll play rdruid
eternal zealot
is boomie looking that bad? 
lofty depot
Until they 30% aura buff us
dense steeple
its def not looking that good
eternal zealot
better than feral with int gear lmao?
lofty depot
The talents are mostly the same... We instead did a few hero talent swaps and maybe run foe
dense steeple
one could argue no
lofty depot
Uhhhh, should sim that honestly
dense steeple
gl to you too
lofty depot
and thank you
If u see boomkin changes come back the next day and aee
Or few hours who knows
eternal zealot
zenith goblet
now we are back for sure... right guys? 
lofty depot
Tomorrow for sure
wild dune
3% aura 8% surge 10% starfall, tier untouched
lofty depot
That's piss
lofty depot
What u wanna bet
wild dune
lofty depot
Ok
wild dune
0 specific builder changes, small aura buff, buff to surge, slightly bigger buff to starfall
lofty depot
Add a 5th... So if u get 3/5 right vs if I get 3/5 right
wild dune
lunar calling buff 
lofty depot
Well that's just
lofty depot
Hold on let me get home
meager storm
they will prob do a massive aura buff into surge nerf so it doesnt end up being 50% of our dmg 
lofty depot
they will prob do a massive aura buff into surge nerf so it doesnt end up being ...
shh
ok
wild dune
either boomer gets buffed to the moon and im happy but out $20 or boomer stays shit and im up $20
win win
lofty depot
so ill give u up to 5% aura
round field
When will dryad do more than 1 wrath?
exotic perch
never lmao
round field
lofty depot
- 0 builder changes
- u5% aura change
- u8% surge change
- u10% starfall change
- lunarcalling buff any
@lofty depot @wild dune bet for 1 wow token on the next changes after 7/22
vital hound
@lofty depot need the bet pinned
round field
just like the last 5 tiers
Hey
lofty depot
if its exact 8% it counts as a win in this case
lofty depot
or. umm
wild dune
i stg if i open wowhead and ive already lost
round field
DIDNT ASK
round field
No thats df1
meager storm
we were good on smolderon
vital hound
we were good on smolderon
"we"
meager storm
just high roll
vital hound
i was dogshit
round field
I tried playing boomie on smolderon after whole feral tier
And ill say
Eyeballing the dmg amp duration and kiting orbs was not it
lofty depot
i stg if i open wowhead and ive already lost
Deal or
errant flint
lofty depot
But surely he won't gaslight me
lofty depot
I even gave u better numby
lofty depot
Think that might be a thing, but shrug
Thought cuz I don't think they change s2 tier til the following week maybe
round field
Just scrap it
And make treants apply shrooms instead of moonfire
And shrooms exploding add moonfire to targets hit
Mushroomancer spec brrrr
wild dune
Stop the cook
wild dune
Delve specific tier sets, I love it
obsidian jetty
my guess is 5-10% aura buff, and 5-10% starfall buff. But I'm not betting on anything
lofty depot
my guess is 5-10% aura buff, and 5-10% starfall buff. But I'm not betting on any...
yea i assume its a 6-10% aura
and yea surge starfall natty 10%
i assume i give him the starfall 10% one but idk
and i assume a wrath/starfire natty buff
i assumed they would mess with the tier but idk when
i dont think we get a 50x spell power change, i assume its change to 4 or 5% total
and left at 25x spell power
think they buff 2p or change it some how
thing is next to useless
obsidian jetty
2p is prly fine, it's just missing scaling
I don't think it scales with any buffs
lofty depot
well they probably dont want it doing 10% dam
but changing it back to 70% of surge would make it like 1.5-2% of our total
so idk
obsidian jetty
it wouldn't be 10%
it was only that high because it was getting affected by 4p before
lofty depot
well it was more than 10% when it was bugged
lofty depot
10% was a random number
obsidian jetty
which is what, like 3-5%
I'd have to go look at a sim
little more than that, so decently high
lofty depot
lofty depot
but changing it back to 70% of surge would make it like 1.5-2% of our total
was way off here
obsidian jetty
oh right, I forgot it's like 30% of a surge now right?
lofty depot
so buffing that back to it would be 0.93%
lofty depot
oh right, I forgot it's like 30% of a surge now right?
yea
obsidian jetty
so it would be somewhere around this with full scaling
that's not aweful for a 2p imo. Specially if it also procs stuff like goldrin, stellar amp, kindling etc.
which it doesn't atm
obsidian jetty
yea, but I"m looking at it from the perspective of 2p+4p
lofty depot
normal pilot
ya isn't 4pc low too
lofty depot
mage is like 23% + from 0p
normal pilot
it just seems a giant ball of suck
obsidian jetty
23 is wild
obsidian jetty
ya isn't 4pc low too
hard to know without working apl
I'm not smart enough to fix it myself
I got a headache trying
meager storm
i think 4 pc is big
lofty depot
yee
meager storm
ya
obsidian jetty
so any value from it will be like 20% weaker
mm, less because it would be gaining boat
but weaker x%
lofty depot
wheres that hunter
obsidian jetty
4p scaled with everything iirc
lofty depot
we scaling with vers now pogg
obsidian jetty
the surges
obsidian jetty
yea it's capped, but it still get's all the multis
that's why it was hitting for 250mil
normal pilot
no haste scaling neither
obsidian jetty
it adds the cap onto your base surge, then gets all the multis
normal pilot
does it still scale with mults after w/e the fucked with it
obsidian jetty
the easiest way I can explain it, because I'm dumb, is the number on your 4p (the cap) is just added before calcs onto your surge tooltip
normal pilot
ya does it still do that in latest build
obsidian jetty
not sure, havn't played this week
normal pilot
ya but that's prolly something wrong with the calculation
it's capped at 25% spell power
and surge is 296% SP
meager storm
well hopefully they dont fix it cuz we will end up doing healer dmg
since they wont buff us at all to compensate as usual
loud kettle
2500% spell power right
obsidian jetty
it's capped at 25% spell power
yea but a normal calc is, base x multi right. But for whatever reason its Base+4p cap x multi. It's not just adding the cap on after the calc
normal pilot
oh right ya 2500%
i guess that could be big if you get vuln window bosses too
too bad still no haste scaling
lofty depot
fuck a lust
obsidian jetty
i guess that could be big if you get vuln window bosses too
yea on the vuln bosses it will be very sick
will add value to doing double ca back to back
and trying to get 4 4p surges into 1 vuln+tree window
normal pilot
hm can you even fill up that fast
lofty depot
kinda depends how long the vuln is
obsidian jetty
you'd have to preramp some vulns
the one on boss 4 is like 12s, so you'd have to do first CA before the amp
and take the 2 surges into next CA
lofty depot
sounds disgusting
obsidian jetty
you want enough dmg in first CA to get a high cap
otherwise it's pointless
the 2nd CA cap will be easier to hit because you will bring first CA surges into the window
so you will need less CDs in it
lofty depot
thats a fun math problem
obsidian jetty
but just a sim question really
lofty depot
cuz u would likely get more convoke damage into boss and hit cap regardless
obsidian jetty
lofty depot
i believe in recruitie maff skill
lofty depot
whnes the vuln
obsidian jetty
I don't actually think it's better in a normal fight, but was just practing and seeing it
just the opener I'm showing
obsidian jetty
but who knows what's actually the best sequence, just what I cooked up without sims
normal pilot
hrm even then it's still only 5000% SP over 100s
loud kettle
maybe araz later
Yea in 30w when boomkin is allowed to have that trinket
Everyone wants it 💀
lofty depot
surely
lofty depot
Yea in 30w when boomkin is allowed to have that trinket
im loot mastering
normal pilot
idk what bosses there are maybe there's enough with vuln phases
lofty depot
on my mage
loud kettle
I only remember 1 vuln
normal pilot
to make up having a nonexistent 2pc
meager storm
4 iirc
lofty depot
4 👀
loud kettle
Cringe fight timer
obsidian jetty
idk what bosses there are maybe there's enough with vuln phases
last 2 bosses iirc, and the 4th boss
loud kettle
was like 2:40 5:50 or smth
normal pilot
are there adds with vuln
normal pilot
you can at least exploit the bug on adds if they don't catch it
meager storm
adds no
normal pilot
unlucky
obsidian jetty
maybe araz later
the int trinket doesn't lose much over time, so imo it made more sense to use it to get a bigger cap. But again, sim angle. You also prlly just run double on use since mastery trinket at the end would buff the last 2 surges alot
or run pvp int trinket
to buff cap more
normal pilot
splash does double right now
obsidian jetty
whichever = more surge dam
normal pilot
they nerfed the wrong spell
normal pilot
so if you can get it ona big pack you can delete stuff
loud kettle
they nerfed the wrong spell
Odds they even catch that though
normal pilot
pretty low i think
vital hound
lurking dev will now
normal pilot
cuz the tooltip reads correctly
vital hound
gg
obsidian jetty
splash does double right now
double as in just unerfed value?
loud kettle
@terse egret
lofty depot
meager storm
cloud plover
normal pilot
hm assuming you always cap out, guess set worth total ~25%
could be good for early tier/prog before haste scaling fucks it
cloud plover
0 haste full crit/mast make it happen
normal pilot
this kinda feels liek a d3 set bonus. every 100s do 5000% damage
lofty depot
0 haste full crit/mast make it happen
dont need crit if its always 50%
cloud plover
dont need crit if its always 50%
off into the cage with u
let's make it even better then
mastery/vers to fit the new floodgate neck
maybe bumkin stops dying then
round field
Vers is fake defensive stat
hollow mist
ur defensive is bear form and pray ur healer has a brain gl
lofty depot
ur defensive is bear form and pray ur healer has a brain gl
u get 3% dr from aoe next tier. big pog
hollow mist
u get 3% dr from aoe next tier. big pog
HUGE
lyric kettle
ur defensive is bear form and pray ur healer has a brain gl
Inshallah I will live this aoe
hollow mist
Inshallah I will live this aoe
I will pray for u brother wark 
pseudo pine
So boomkinh back from grave yet? Or still deep in the grave?
cold sparrow
jaunty blaze
tardy hare
We had 3 druid dps this tier. Im the only one staying for next tier. I believe!
crisp scaffold
Tuning today
delicate perch
jaunty blaze
hollow mist
manifesting it for u shmie..
exotic stump
Tuning today
Convoke nerfs 
jaunty blaze
Convoke nerfs and nothing else
Take it or leave it
Convoke is great can scratch my nose during fights
pale swan
Kalamazi put us in B tier so surely we get buffed,since blizzard watch his videos
exotic stump
Convoke nerfs and nothing else
I'm unironically down
jade flume
Kalamazi put us in B tier so surely we get buffed,since blizzard watch his video...
B for bamkin
pale swan
B for bamkin
gentle patio
They forgot the part where boomie dmg is buffed by 60%
vital hound
rich jewel
boomie nerfed 3% lmao
gentle patio
Did you just call boomkin a hunter pet?
jaunty blaze
signal temple
B for bamkin
B is for Better Luck Next Time
deft quiver
https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcoming-class-tuning-on-the-weekly-reset-frost-dk-...
lol they buffed us?
pearl pivot
vital hound
balmy light
Tuning inc
pale swan
Tuning inc
lofty depot
Known liar
lofty depot
boomie buff?
Tomorrow for sure
zenith goblet
buffs inc 
jaunty blaze
haughty wedge
Hello guys, a pleasure to be among you.
I'm new to playing balance and I have some questions about my dots.
I play with chosen elune.
-
- Do I need to be in eclipse to start spreading the dots? Every time I pull mobs, do I need to cast 2 wrath to enter lunar eclipse to make the damage more effective?
- When is the best time to renew my dots in a single-target fight? At the end of an eclipse or at the beginning of an eclipse ?
- With another duid in the group, whether balance or tank, are the dots on the target staked ? Or does the tank for example remove my moonfire by using his own moonfire ?
NOTE: If this isn't the right place please let me know, I'm new to discord as well
cloud plover
new to discord are we
jaunty blaze
Nice font
haughty wedge
new to discord are we
I have an account, but I don't participate in communities, only for work and study and voice calls
tardy hare
- No 2. Dots are up always, renew at pandemic window 3. No
jade flume
For the 3rd question. Other peoples dots dont interact with yours. So you dont have to worry about it, they wont overwrite your dots or interact with them anyway
There can be multiple instances of same dot from different players
haughty wedge
do you wait for the astral power to reach 100% to use 2 starfall, or, 3 starsurge, or do you already use these skills as soon as you have the astral power to use them?
haughty wedge
For the 3rd question. Other peoples dots dont interact with yours. So you dont h...
thanks for that, because i configured my plater to change the mobs life bar when they have moonfire and it is changing it to when the tank also uses it, this caused me confusion.
jade flume
Yeah its just badly configured then. You can track other peoples dots so it has to be specified that you want to be tracking only self casted ones
cyan flicker
Does anyone have a new link for simming the DISC belt or can let me know how i do it myself?
lofty depot
do you wait for the astral power to reach 100% to use 2 starfall, or, 3 starsurg...
Once ur at 3 starlord u use asp to not overcap and to move
vital hound
bros name being
haughty wedge
Yeah its just badly configured then. You can track other peoples dots so it has ...
yes, I need to find this configuration, I'm using the Ui plater from the naowh streamer, and I changed the settings in the color code that it already has in the profile, so I need to study the plater more
lofty depot
- U don't want to ever be at 100%
- U dont have to be at 100% to spend
- U often times shouldn't be full spending unless ur stacking starlord or having to move
vital hound
🤌
haughty wedge
I've put an audible warning on weak auras to tell you to start spending at 70 astral power and not to let it reach 100%, but I don't know if 70 is a good number to start spending at
royal zenith
can't put a hard number on when to spend
you pool ASP for movement and just have a general rule to not overcap
mental root
question whats the effect of haste on convoke
royal zenith
zero
mental root
more spells less spells or just faster cast time
royal zenith
unhasted
mental root
not even cast time ?
mental root
bruh
royal zenith
yes?
haughty wedge
do you renew the dots during movement ? or when the eclipse is over ? is renewing the dots inside an eclipse a good way to maximize your damage ?
royal zenith
just becuse you want to cast faster weak ass wraths doesn't make it right!!
Well, this question was already answered
you refresh dots during pandemic window
and yes, use it during movement for more efficient usage
and you generally always want to be in an eclipse
haughty wedge
sorry for so many questions, it really is a difficult spec to learn
royal zenith
that's alright
you can read more on priority in spells in the compendium
lists the prio's for ST and for AOE
lofty depot
do you renew the dots during movement ? or when the eclipse is over ? is renewin...
Well u don't want to be out of eclipse ever so wasting that time is still bad
Do it at the end of eclipse and in pandemic
haughty wedge
my god, thank you so much for this link, it will save my life, i started playing balance 2 weeks ago, currently i'm at 2900 of io. 270 ilv, on average my Dps is 3B, I don't know if it's good I should be much more, follow my profile:
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/pt-br/character/us/illidan/transtornado/
lofty depot
Generally trying to find why ur overall moves is dumb
Knowing how to play the spec properly could result in better performance... It could also be that ur playing with classes that turbo dump and u can do enough DPS fast enough
To better understand what ur doing wrong, we would need a log to check then someone can look into what ur casting and what's going on.
jade flume
i see i have astral power i spend astral power
Thats what i do too
Asp is there to be spendet
lofty depot
If notes spawn when I'm in the air, I'm tilted
crisp scaffold
Notes in 44 minutes
jaunty blaze
Its gonna be lit ong
exotic stump
If notes spawn when I'm in the air, I'm tilted
Stay on the ground?
jaunty blaze
Yuh
leaden birch
nice!
exotic stump
It is like, 7am in California
jaunty blaze
Tomorrow
royal zenith
gief
delicate perch
hey guys sorry but the buffs aren't happening today, maybe tomorrow now 
errant flint
lofty depot
Notes in 44 minutes
Liar
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> ?¿???¿???
Yea looks like tomorrow
jaunty blaze
Wouldnt surprise me tbh
royal zenith
No…
hearty crypt
Hello there !
What is the state of boomy post nerf in ST and AOE ? Could t test it on ptr
wild dune
It's bad.
hearty crypt
Hope we get fix soon
lofty depot
Hope we get fix soon
Tomorrow for sure
hearty crypt
lofty depot
Baiters should be thymed out
hasty shard
I'm not even going to look. They aren't dropping that on a Thursday
lofty depot
Reverse jinxing, nice
hearty crypt
Praige for the fix
hasty shard
+3% New Moon. Best they can do. Gave everything else to Frost DKs.
hearty crypt
+3% New Moon. Best they can do. Gave everything else to Frost DKs.
And that fcking arcane mage still stomping everything
lucid olive
They won't buff moons, they tried that in 11.0.5 and it did not go well
Had to reaction nerf it after one reset
hasty shard
They won't buff moons, they tried that in 11.0.5 and it did not go well
Since when does that stop them. 😂
lucid olive
They buffed all the moon casts before 11.0.5 so we played moons with keeper, Convoke and whirling stars and it was a terrible playstyle and they nerfed it after so nobody would take it again
Usually I'd wonder what their plans are with moons but I don't think they have any so
hasty shard
I remember. It was total ass. Don't get me wrong. I love my moons. I want them back more than anything. I even want them baked into the spec, if nothing else Full Moon, but with this playstyle, it's totally pointless isn't it.
lucid olive
Make them instant casts and proc based
jaunty blaze
they seem to be ok with noone playing moons 
lucid olive
Get proc when X happens
normal pilot
it's better nobody plays moons anyways
they're not capable of developing that many talents
hasty shard
Make them instant casts and proc based
Yup, I want that shit rather than yet another % increase on some other passive rando proc.
jaunty blaze
its ok i see a full moon every other convoke
lucid olive
More incentive to press moons is less globals pressing wrath and starfire
And they love it when we press wrath and starfire
lucid olive
Yes we're the first ones they design new hero talents for and they'll announce it at Gamescom and show how cool it is
And then do 0 iterations on it after
jaunty blaze
hasty shard
I also want Orbital Strike on a 45-1m cd that applies Moonfire. But I reckon I need to cut back on the hopium.
lucid olive
They almost did that in Amirdrassil
Made Orbital Strike a choice node with Mushroom on a 45s cd that just applied Flare and didn't give CA
But PvPers wanted their 2 min CA
hasty shard
Can you imagine how fucking nice it would be. Gods.
lucid olive
Then we got Sunseeker instead eventually
lucid olive
If something should be baseline it's shooting stars
Shooting Stars and Solstice are 2 talents and that's ridiculous
signal temple
EC is EZ 
plucky valley
I won’t be able to play next season because I’ll be busy irl
hasty shard
Surely they won't buff Hail of Stars and try to make us waste more time not casting Starfire for set dmg right? ...Right?
normal pilot
they'll just make the set rppm
hasty shard
I knew I should've set the bar lower
lucid olive
Surely they won't buff Hail of Stars and try to make us waste more time not cast...
don't think it's possible to spend less AP for the set tbh
you need to spend to not overcap for the thing to proc at all
lofty depot
See they like us having procs, but don't want to move weaver off of a choice with rattle
Even tho they nerfed rattle 2 times to try to make it closer
hasty shard
don't think it's possible to spend less AP for the set tbh
Yupyup, I was just being idiotic and choosing rando ability they might buff that would seem fairly useless
hasty shard
Orbital is so cool man
It feels iconic, especially to EC.
lofty depot
Yupyup, I was just being idiotic and choosing rando ability they might buff that...
Imagine moons did damage
That'll be the day
Precast nm hf dots fm Ca at the end of cast
Big pog
hasty shard
I just wanna drop a phat full moon on Big Mamma's +dmg phase and see number go up.
lofty depot
U can do that already
hasty shard
Sure. But not enough. 😄
errant flint
I remember at some point legion and beyond timeline where some giant moon would drop out of the sky onto a mob and I was like ooooo wassat
cloud plover
I'll show you a giant moon
jaunty blaze
😳
plucky valley
plucky valley
I'll show you a giant moon
@mighty mica do I have your permission to post a thirst trap? It’s of me arching my back but I have clothes on
jaunty blaze
mighty mica
north stag
plucky valley
You know what I’m sorry for asking
cloud plover
mighty mica
we don't have specific rule against selfie posts
cloud plover
speficic
mighty mica
thank you puppy
lucid olive
so we're allowed to thirst trap?
plucky valley
Yeah I’m also a bit fuzzy on that
lucid olive
@lofty depot time to post em
cloud plover
so we're allowed to thirst trap?
do you have what it takes to thirst trap
if so
send it!!
cloud plover
well u see
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> time to post em
Gonna repost dwilkz's cuz I don't look that good
royal zenith
or do you just want some attention, by posting it here
cloud plover
#1 it's not balance
royal zenith
ah
loud kettle
<@140655388730064896> do I have your permission to post a thirst trap? It’s of m...
I'll take the ban if its deemed egregious
cloud plover
#2 it means having to look into a different channel
cloud plover
would u prefer they just sent it
royal zenith
I don't really care
royal zenith
give crazy what they want
loud kettle
This is why I hate all versions of archon
errant flint
Grippers or gtfo
plucky valley
Thyme didn’t say yes specifically
royal zenith
hasty shard
We taking what we can get right now 😂
cloud plover
you can post it, just dont @ me if people start making fun of
based
loud kettle
Gonna pull up mattius twitter ig
errant flint
Preseason is truly the most cursed time in every class discord
royal zenith
this is still end of season
plucky valley
Oh fr?
royal zenith
dont be dramatic!!
plucky valley
mighty mica
holy
errant flint
loud kettle
Can u zoom out a lil
plucky valley
That costs $
loud kettle
sry cant afford
plucky valley
I
Understand
jaunty blaze
is that an onlyfans bait
plucky valley
It really me
lucid olive
@past tide
jaunty blaze
errant flint
past tide
So we just sending unsolicited ass pics now huh
past tide
@lucid olive check dms
loud kettle
wtf has our channel turned into
It has always been this
lofty depot
wtf has our channel turned into
Make them post buffs, or they're gonna post thirst traps
wicked shuttle
loud kettle
The thirst traps will continue until morale improves
jaunty blaze
VERY FEW RUNS
lofty depot
Love that for us
loud kettle
Wait orange class dps are supposed to be good in at least m+ though ?
loud kettle
Thats very kind of u
lofty depot
It's ok, fire gonna blast again
lucid olive
mythicstats
errant flint
Below aug 
hollow mist
I just sent gamz my ass over dms
sending mine next
past tide
Mythic + dps tww season 3 very few runs