#balance
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people who care about ranks are the ones doing the most dmg and they are for sure playing these last 2 weeks

There's a middle ground between this and playing for parses
Like if I'm going for a parse I ain't ever bear forming when I do a bomb on Gally
Define playing for parses
Had to last week, first time, was fun
Every boss in the raid after they got rid of pad adds is just a st dummy
Bar gallywix
oab still a bit pad, rik still a bit pad
And even then you can top 10 it hitting no adds (not on balance)
Playing as aggressively as possible, going for high risk decisions because it can land you a couple more casts
I have to do bombs cuz I did it on mage
I wouldn’t call OAB reel assistants pad but ye

think you are taking this way too serious hemenia...
But u can do damage if u prep
well its not st boss isnt it
Just don't be a dork
starfall does a bit of ur overall
Possibly
parsing is life
Depends on the spec ig
guys.. im new to this game and i feel that my dps is really shitty. in my mind, i think i know exaclty what i have to do. but when it comes to number, my dps is shit. do we have any way to simulate my dps into a site that can show me what im doing wrong? statisctics to compare to other good druids?
I mean, if u can do damage to the adds, u do
Even then you can easy 99 no starfall on bandit
Log a boss kill and post it
Then I'll tell u what ur doing wrong
u can not 99 no starfall 
Dwilkz did (iirc)
nope
Fr? I press a single starfall when the mobs come out to try to get some haste from the buff
ggs make a new toon
You can do damage to the adds without pressing stsrfall
Maybe on BM u can
Ie shrooms spread. Trees moonfiring. Sunfire spread off boss
It’s not much
But it adds up
wasting gcds on the adds just for dots is not worth if u wont starfall
Wait
Wrong
Not 99 what problem
I am legit trashcan hunter player
u are not highest boss dmg
what is the 140k+ for
That’s how much I did to adds without pressing a single starfall
From all the factors previously mentioned
well it evens out or maybe its a dps increase to not waste gcds on adds just for dots
Scrapps on moonkin era?
Probably less even
Scrapps been had a moonkin
All of them are
Scrappd is a young prodigy
Nah, Scrapps forever a master of beasts
I don't even know what point we're making here
We're fucking bored dawg

We waiting for blue post
soon
Too early in the day for the blue post but I feel ya
most important thing for parses for boomies at least is just faster kills
u can literally kill 30s before ur convoke and do more dmg than after ur convoke
I need some sorta news to make me feel alive
So what else I do between now that then
That doesn’t count
i will find another
What was the point of this argument anyways
Me blaming my bad parse on sprocket on the 3:57 kill timer
lol you can certainly try
Nerf BM basically
But then I realised I’m talking to starfall class people
Like you guys don’t know what single target damage is
Blud
u should have ur convoke up by then
Don't listen to this guy he cried to 17 people to not do damage to gallywix adds so he could parse
Think trees were down, should have held the trees

you dont even need to ask people to not hit adds
just pre starfall
and trees + sunfire when they do
ggwp
On BM
hmm
Not on bamkin
What are you even saying
boss damage
they dont count for logs even
ye
It’s funnel
Right
Yep
Suree
I play balance Druid for real

Me when i lie
thats what i tell my gm when i pad
trueeeeeeeeeeee
see ur already getting hte boomkin ethics
starfalling the adds gives you a haste buff
goood good
(on rik)
(sometimes)
I hate balance players
@maiden pasture ate my adds on gallywix
wtf
do u guys play no devokers?
those are the ones eating adds

my condolences scrapp
No fortunately I don’t play with him it was a one off
i will sign to all the runs you do
I intentionally brought my main hunter to a run without any dev evokers not even lying
3 of em
But then maya affix kicked in
the real story is
he said he would pay 250k for me not to hit them
then he said
i was joking haha give my gold back
so ofc i hit them....
alright. ill check how can i do this and ill bring it back here
tyvm!
or if u go look up ur druid on warcraftlogs and see if someone logged a kill
You know I missed that rank 1 by 10k
That’s like
2 seconds longer of hitting adds

Strike saved: thunderous roar, ravager, avatar, shield charge, demolish
For every add set
Same with flay
They were out to get me
this fuggn hunter is stealing my pad
Like I said I don’t have a chronic gambling addiction so I don’t play that trash
coppppe
you never looked at your uptime on buffs playing balance...
are you sure you dont like gambling....
Wdym
you have played balance as an alt at least right
Unfortunately I have yes
What the hell is fairies
we call them cats
cats
just the dmg they do

and then u can go look at ur dogs proc
Ohh that guy
which are goldrinn
and then u can go look at ur shroom and smolder uptime
blud thought he left the gamba
Im not a sim-nerd, ask gamz!!
The RNG is stupid on MM
hm
(too lazy to look it up)
the min is 6m and the max is 8m
Both those min/max look crazy imo
Mean 3.8m
Same vibes
Why is the mean so high
I hope they never do this gambling tier set again
I cant just tell if if the tier set is good looking at it
he is showing next seasons
base stats
HAHAHAH NO WAY
well the first one was s2
That is how much you sim next season 💀💀💀💀
but at 723 ilvl, with 684 tier
yea were dogass
we getting 30% buff soon
Then this is a crazier crit rng spread then
oh man i will be praying for bm nerfs
Gross
Bro deadass ping @ everyone that is an emergency level of dogshit

gamba nation
nah, then hte warlocks will think were sandbagging
Closer to s2 dev evokers and s3 anything good
Everyone thinks all boomys sandbag
and then say we were bug abusing
Class discords have pinged everyone over less surely
Which yea but results
the everyone pings
‘@ everyone free my bro he just got banned’ - mages
are so funny
#Gripisnotaraidbuff
if no one did one for turtle it aint happening
Ect
No
- 3% versatility player
no one willing to die on that hill
imagine im turtle
i remember someone saying that one time when i posted an ana de armas gif
maybe you are


ur too good at boomkin to be turtle
bro catching strays 
well
what is wrong with gooning
Im biased towards ana

what about aubrey plaza
great
Ill leave it up to thyme to decide..
she's like, weird attractive
didnt someone get like a day time out by saying "lynch" once
I timed myself out
deserved
@lofty depot i think i sent you the log in ur dm. im not sure if this is the right one

it was the meta to make jokes like that for some reason
was really weird
twist was definitely a daily offender
yea theres none there
tf u mean weird attractive, she is just beautiful beautiful 
i watched all of parks n rec
which is prob why I think she's like, weird attractive
lol. this is what shows to me
yeah she's guldans sister
oh thats m+
That parse isn’t based off of damage anyways
can run lfr who cares
it's based off of mog
its about the sequence not hte damage
yea. i havent done any raid yet. i think im too trash to fuck raid runs for now
To see for damage, the run has to be logged (these aren’t) and then it’s under key %
M+ parse just compares you to highest keys done
aka 12's are blue versus 21's
or w.e.
really? ok, ill try it out and than ill send it here again


I dont go to TSL but comparing the cope in the better hunter discord to here at any pre-season runs deep.
The levels of cope here are astronomical
Here?
Yes
What cope
Im just here like both my preferred specs 
What’s the better hunter discord
Wonder what we're coping about
The Hunt
Locks and hunters getting nerfed?
I mean by all means it’s justified but then everything thats being posted here is cinema
Please refer me to this "cinema"
They deserve nerfs
I would like to be entertained
This whole place is entertainment.
Very
Dm me a link I’m lost
I get it tbh everyones beloved spec is dumpstered. I wanna enjoy something new and BAM nerfs.
On the contrary
Mage is busted (which I play)
But I wanna know what we're coping about
Have u seen the numbers or
Your numbers were enough to give me an idea that boomys got the shit end of the stick
But in general im just hoping to be within 5% of all the other dps specs.
SO WHERE IS THE COPE
Your name rn is cope 💀
^^
Nuh huh
Yuh uh
We're being buffed tomorrow for sure
everyone wants their loved spec to be good or full delulu meta
Arctic getting bullied by white names again?
No
That's just the delulu of frogs spewing
Even worse, Hunter players (apparently)
Im not bullying if its facts
It's not facts so
Why are hunter players in here 
Amen fuck those guys
Blud is spewing
Bc I want off that whole class
Projecting his hunter propaganda
So stop playing it
Make boomy better
Guarantee your not at a world rank where it matters 
I'm a world ranked
when spec bad, I don't play it
Dude same
holy we lost him
shrimple
Did u see his head?
So boomy is bad rn why you herev
Can u not be in a class discord?
cuz I enjoy the banter
I'm confused
Disgusting
Boomie discord is peak discord banter idk
It is actually
I also just play every druid spec and have for the last 16 years 
Tettles offline, back to watching sumo :/
I open social media and be like “what is everyone mad about today?”
And then say boomkins are coping
Also yes
We are not coping buff boomkin 😤😤😤
If people not mad today I can make em mad 😂
Take 20% from ur damage, and give it to boomkin
Ezpz
Wdym from my damage
and they still do double as much
I’m one of us
hahahahaaaaa frost dk is coming BACK. rip boomkin
I enjoy the efforts to buff us here whether they are socially good or not.
A buff is a buff
Bro if we don’t get buffs

Socially good would be presentable numbers gathered with a decent sample size etc blah blah
Socially bad is just “waaahhh damage low rabble rabble”
Nobody
Eightsune is already back dawg
@pallid bay ??
Lol
can't have that
40% would do it (still below warlock ST)
(pettko if you're reading this, you're not banned from DG - stop capping)
Isnt petko a shaman?
yeh ele shammy
Ah getting to know all the wowtwt people

are you one of them hemenia...
What
yeah, exactly
For no reason
Typing here is bad for my job
relatable
it gets that wild in here?
Coming here is like going to a party where everyone is already drunk and somehow your friend who invited you has left you alone to navigate through.

Blud isn't ready for the bloodmallet pin
💀
Or for the SIM IT name change
Start drinking then
Nothing cristian about this dystopian place
balance is the most pious spec, it lets everyeone else do the dps
real hemenia
dont challenge them
we told them to fix our tier set and got punished for it gg
wrath now has 3.5 second cast time
people say we sandbag when we actively try and get ourselves nerfed every time
i just love how they do nerfs before fixing the set
Well they did fix it...
Anyone know of any good mop druid guides to follow?
no
consider asking in the classic druid discord
Do we have a “somehow it got worse” emoji?
and get kotg even more buffed on next ptrs
awesome ty
the first week ye
I miss furor...
the dryad bug abusers were cringe
that shit was intended gameplay the dev is just not very good at his job
Dont care
Glad its gone
I wouldnt say its intended gameplay tbh
if CAs were 15s instead of 12s
i wouldnt mind it
play orbital strike
or if the window was smaller
Theres no way they made it with the intention of making druids bear form in cds
I had one of my guilds druids calling for rally cry for damage. That cannot be normal
2s of the window is gonna be holding trees anyways
Every time theres some bear tech is stupid and i hope it gets nefed
that doesnt make it a bug
just -2s and increase it back to 5%
No bug but dumb design and should’ve been changed
they really want to make druids shapeshift

but surely since we do no dps at least we will get some defensives buffs

right guys this is the tier we get some defensives

Bear form?
AAAAAAAAAAAA
4% avoidance lets go
0.3/10 ragebait
Wdym Druid lives every mechanic in the game
And yoyre asking for defensive
Smh
Spoiled oranj
maya come get ur guy 
bro no shot this guys still yapping
Amen
Lol is bear not a defensive?
it's a form
Also true
A defensive form
Dps loss form
a bear form
Dying is a bigger dps loss
There it is. Correct.
Yea heal more
Peak gameplay
I cant cast in bear form. Dps loss
I love bear form
Press swipe or something idk
he is so fuzzy 
Yes swipe has a 30yrs range
Im
Leaving it 30 years
Imagine this guy playing a melee class
I love bear

Its mt favorite button in the whole world
People who play cat are just furries in disguise.
Wheres the disguise
Yanno what LOL
See how busted ts is
Soo busted
Lived every blaze for free
Mere moral classes would have had -100%
And u still play it
Normal spec die there
Right
Frost dk benched due to no raidbuff so this is a non issue
I dont
That doesn't mean it's a bug
I didnt say its a bug
Its doing what its designed to
Ok but the dirt bags are
The design chocie is just questionable
Kalamazi
X
Meatza cmon
Is he
Good at.being a rat
Plz blizzord buff me, we suck. Gets buffed
Blizzord plzzz it's not enough need more.
I mean
Wait, hold up. Do we not do the same thing here?
No
Ya should
The fuck calling we
need to get buffed first
No, we asked for nerfs and bugfix and then got blasted and we're now dogshit
seems we got what we asked for
Trolling me lol no one asks for nerfs
No one ur used to
Bug fixes should always come with dps compensation
Fuggn rat hunter

"I am glad these guys got hard nerfed cause they were playing with a bug on the realms made to test bugs instead of waiting until they hit live and bug abuse there"
Ah love it when bugs do less damage, bug gets fixed, overall less dmg
fucking 10 IQ comments from the peanut brain company
Fuggn sandbaggers
Bug abusing sandbaggers
It wasn't a bug dork
yes, the dryad didn't cast Starsurge and therefore did no damage, the 4pc was overtuned and did too much damage
so they nerfed the 4pc to irrelevancy and fixed the Dryad bug (it now does 500k per Starsurge, less than a tick of Moonfire)
Yar was reading the dreamgrove top to bottom one day. Why dryad doing no dam in the first place?
someone help, my dryad is healing the boss
because the dev steals paychecks
Cuz they forgot how to code
Concern
code?
BM 4p also doesn’t work correctly so it’s all good
chat gpt is doing the coding
Welcome to the team
If it doesnt work correctly they might suffer the same fate
Hunter doesn't have a valuable raid buff so you're not allowed to be tuned shit
thats how it works innit
Looks at dk
Hunters mark isnt a raid buff imo
Well ur o is wrong so
They are also tuned well
if your raid buff sucks you need big dam or the BM hunter mains in the dev team are sat for their aotc guild prog
I mean it IS a raid buff just a really shit one
Not all of us can have 3% versatility
1% big
1% on 1 target 🥶
Imagine if bosses had more than one target
Or if the damage dealt in the first phase didn’t effect the boss dying
hunter raid buff does more dam than whole moonkin spec
Vers almost garbo for hunter anyways
thats brazy
That is NOT how this works
3% x 20 people is 60%.... Can we just augment that damage to my damage and we would be very high on meter
3% vers is 3% damage regardless of anything
Yeayea, can we augment that
We dont stack vers on gear like before
I know
But 3% vers is 3% damage
Regardless of the class
Spec
What stats you like
Ect
But hunter 3% bigger than druid 3%
True that
what if i DR
stacking vers on bamkin
How much vers is eightsune at?
owl built like a tank
See how much others are stacking and get back to me
Dick ride?
slur
oh your just pretending

afraid he's not
no idea
Im not
can i slur
Its on IV guide
?
I need an IV after reading this discussion
Its posted in the hunter disc multiple times
what are we fighting about atm
you
Tldr: hunter gets more value out of the other stats over vers.
motw bad for hunter cuz they prefer other stats
thats crazy
It doesn’t matter whether your class likes vers as a stat or not. 3% vers , or 3% damage dealt is the same for Hunter as it is any other class

tl:dr somebody doesn't understand how vers works
Feel like little beef is hunter kekkers
Bro little beef
You are not doing the hunter class any favours
I think you need to understand how vers works in terms of dps output here compared to the other stats hunter likes.
i think the tldr is no one cares
Your math is the simplest form
No like
What you didnt account for is how much dps is gained in the other stats vs vers
so everyone gets 3% more damage and that's worse for hunters than others
Yo I am not even gonna cover that
pass the good stuff
this is your brain on bm hunter
hunter kekkers is not real he can not hurt you
But they get more dam than bamkin
3% ≠ 3%
Not real but im in here
Well ur 3% is not = to my 3%
does he think its 3% based on the amount of stat you have
where build
If you dont believe me ask azor

You might be onto something
Tomato town
nowhere, now wait for rwf to end for actual tuning
like a spec has 21k vers cause they stack it and get more value from MOTW than someone who has 1k vers on an off piece?
We're building
But vers is better for other classes than hunter
when the 3% from MOTW is just flat % and the amount of stat youi have isnt relevant
Are we bell curving
This doesn’t matter
that doesnt matter for MOTW
Is it still good? Yes but not as good as stacking the other stats.
....
you could in theory have something unaffected by vers i guess
blud was actually held back in primary
It should
Buff trees
but little beef is just arguing something completely different anyway
is this bait
fighting the demons
This has to be a bit at this point or actual chosen ignorance
They nerfed us actually. Nerfed mystic touch.... Smh
No but look at all the people who come to hate
voices has taken over
Why are reacts turned off in this discord
Discord busy
That is so woke
When u make it this easy
I wanted to skull oi
try and say the r word..
can confirm motw terrible 4 hunter
I mean everyone here talking
That’s bait
So we got kekkers, resto kekkers and hunter kekkers
Rofl
regarded
whose resto kekkers
should've been here when you got an hour timeout for writing night..
Clankz
@craggy sonnet
o rofl
That’s rich coming from balance Torty

are we allowed to hate on bots in here

the c word
Buddy, ur hunter azmon shut up

thats insulting for torty
Was gonna say, torty is highly regarded
Is clankers slur for AI or just bots?
And not the other regarded word
thyme said it so
Yes
any clankers in chat
Noted
I miss u oi
he talks shit about you daily scrapps
clankz smarter than half the people typing rn
I guess outside of slurs and generally not following the rules I wonder what it takes to get banned
@turtle42
@papercups
@papercups
man
Oh slow
This must be an old joke pre-me
Well theyre banned, so yea
turtle then paper
Their posts still up?

😊
Some
goes digging
sure you can find some prime papercups lore..
Where's the oce video documentary
knowing him he is for sure on an alt reading this rn
don't think he cares enough..
@ thyme ping check little beef
Everyone is a turtlee42 alt
You guys need a brown name role in here
wrong
Deux I’m so happy you’re here
I can arrange a red role for you scrappy
In TSL if you are completly braindead you get a brown name
We already have a shitter, his name is respectable
Goose chase 
do it
deux acknowledge me
maybe tomorrow
or friday
when Im ready for the weekend
I can’t I’m not him
Press enter
You guys know about the ancine lore?
dont post it
Is that some hunter reference or
Type shit
Yes sir
So a demon hunter
buddy?
i'm working on an exciting cope theory that moonkin gains a little bit of value in sale runs with 2-5 (depending on how hard the content is) dead bodies in raid
see, lower overall raid damage means adds live longer so starfall and dots get better
dropping healers means bear form being a no-CD defensive is strong. sale run means who cares about dps, do mechanics and don't die
go forth and boost
Well yea, ur buff the nerfed boss
Thing alive longer ezpz
yesterday i was boosting on my druid and the raid made me go evoker because my damage was too low though

Years of oppression
make sure you tag a moderator when you say that or they wont see it
This might be a slight insane skill issue
Well he didn't not do anything
if you think you can read in on papercups lore within 5 minutes
I dunno
maybe go a different server

shut up man
150k messages, read in 5 minutes
It goes so far and my thumb is tired
never
Do it on computer and go to like page 30
I will not be caged
Im at work
Surely something. There
If im bored enough at home im going scrolling again
I dunno
DMs 💀
it's giving me the whole "I wanna be part of the gang" vibes
just yap and chill
lore is whatever
1 day*
dm me for deux lore
LOL it was both me having a lack of mug'zee moonkin skill and it being my weaker druid that hasn't gotten cartel chips to spend but had a high enough ilvl of like 678 and wasn't saved to mythic
that's the thing, you generally leave the druid discord insulted and upset but smarter
@lofty depot where buffs
No im getting in the dumpster with the rest of ya’ll. Sandbaggers and all.
Tomorrow for sure
Tomorrow for sure
well i'm not telling you to leave, i just mean people here will flame you but within the ridicule is some real knowledge usually sometimes
Don’t forget arctic big coper
Sandbagger and coper
Yea I still find this place useful. People generally not as cringe as I was told. Eh some more so than others but then I just be saying words together 60% of the time during off season.
Bc bored
When is tomorrow
What did we learn about mark of the wild today
I'm a mage
Its a raid buff?
No cope, always op
And it’s the same for all classes! Woooo
Mark of the wild is the thing resto druid is brought for next season
Hmm no. Simple math enjoyers will say this.
FREAK
Can he say that
So we didn’t learn anything 😭
@ mods
I will be brought to raid specifically to give someone inmervate surely
Cuz healers use mana
We didnt learn equations did we?
Take this cat gif
Kek
That’ll make everything better
Okay from the top
What does vers do
Damage and healing done and DR
3% FLAT vers = 3% damage and healing done
Prove it
Prove to me that it is working as intended
Napkin math
Ima need you to show me the % dps again and value increase in crit at say 500 to the % dps gain of 500 vers to me. Thanks. Lemme be specific and say MM only.
But that’s the thing it’s not 500 vers. It’s a flat 3%
A flat 3% damage and healing done increase
Im keeping the math simple for you
You're saying it as if Druid can choose to bring you a crit buff instead
Much love
It's just motw or no motw
You win little beef
Im not saying that at all
7.1m x 0.03 = .213
4.3m x 0.03 = .129
How his number almost double mine :/
Schrodingers buff or something
white names 

Well as we have already established. 3% for Hunter isn’t 3% cause vers bad
Checkmate. Druid
Remember fastest way to the right answer is posting the wrong one.
Buh, see it's more worff
NUH UHHH
What is this discrimination btw
This is not on
White name buddies




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