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tettles too quiet rn, where's the 30% aura buff cope post?
dungeon slice mode is not supported for boomkin
our content creators arent kalamazi
tragic really

I don't eat out a lot, but they have good chicken sandwiches
He's an ele sham main now
Cheese sauce goes hard for sure. Add some buffalo to that chef’s kiss

metaballs on pizza
yes

How does this work
yes
let me file a ticket to get you banned then kekkers!!
not wrong
pick another route
fight type selected doesnt matter when you sim MDT so ignore the people clowning the dungeonslice (but also dont use dungeonslice)
He healin
What the
@lucid olive How cooked are we next tier? Seeing some warlock sims and surely we do the same damage right?
https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gJMwcuj6yUX7fxKqgYPLcY
🙂
oh they got another 200k
show kotg
not implemented
gg
that 4.7m is also with the tier set being a 20% increase
on live the difference between EC and KOTG with the s2 tier set is less than 100k on ST
I mean demo is gonna get a 15% nerf easily

so keeper set will have to be a massive increase for the spec to not be dogshit
somehow i think it wont be 60%
crazy thought
yea
So we only need a 30% aura buff to be close. Gotcha
that demo sim is cooked to start with no mana for the trinket and has PI
10%
doesnt really matter when its infinity far ahead
U think ur not starting with 0% mana?
Also the 0% mana thing is at most 1%
So doesn't matter
most people wont because the only way a warlock is doing that is spec swapping before the pull and spamming unending breath to try to maintain it
ya warlock doesent have a way to spend more mana then it generates
whats causeing the 0 mana to help it out?
trinket
Trinket does more under 25% mana
This epic trinket of item level 662 goes in the "Trinket" slot. It is looted from Fractillus. In the Trinkets category. Added in World of Warcraft: The War Within.
Mage can stay around 20-30 all fight
arcane mage loses dps if surge is with under 25% mana
Idk what spr mana looks like
shadow can just shield to consume mana
Yea but so their spells cost a lot?
ya
So can they stay around 20-30
So yea should be good
Uhh arcane mage uses mana as a resource so u likely wouldn't be trying to game it
even if they fall behind they can just mass dispel to use a ton of mana
Ye
hm?
i just got mythic HOC
its not the last week
@lofty depot where buffs
tomorrow
Surely tomorrow
That's why it says tomorrow and not tuesday
Gotta always look forward to it
K I'll ask you again tomorrow
Its always tomorrow
Always approaching, never reaching
Always forward, never straight
For what is today but yesterday's tomorrow?
so when is it?
right now
give new build
there you go
The War Within Season 3, Patch 11.2 - Reverse Tier List of Meta Specs for Mythic+.
Instead of looking at the most OP, meta, powerful Specs for next Season, this time we're taking a look at the most doomed, hopeless, and in severe need of Hopium dosages if you even want to have a chance at these Specs becoming anything more than dressing for a ga...
Another meme tier video by izen
sorry since I'm sure this has been asked before. In general, is it better to have one of each color gem socketed for the extra crit or just focus haste and mastery? In general
thank you!
Is there a FAQ section where things like that would be posted for the spec?
No but u can @ thyme and ask why they're ain't any
Pins is the best we have
lol
(don't @ him)
compendium is way better than faq channels of other discords anyway
also Compendium guide linked in pins is where we consolidate information
Objectively wrong
getting info on other classes is so annoying
What other classes?
oh shoot I didnt even see that compendium thing, thank you
Paladin/monk atm
can someone brez ozzy right fucking now pls
That's crazy, it's like if there was a channel named FAQ it would be easier
Those aren't classes
ofc monk is more difficult to get info from
I've alt'd mage and spr and had all the info when joining their discords
Mage does too
checked the pins for a link to a hypothetical website didnt see one
That doesn't mean they don't have the FAQ info in a channel
Restarted servers with no patch
To stop challengemodes
I can't man
Tomorrow for sure
Crazy they aren't even retesting any bosses just one and doned in like a week and a half
yea tomorrow

Honestly they should make a channel that only had the link to compendium to it
So people can find it easier bc it seems pinned messages break the brain (mine included sometimes)
its literally on top of this channel
people are very blind
I mean, people are new to the Internet and discord. It's hard finding information

Fr
I probs use discord more on mobile than desktop. Few clicks to get pins
Not saying it’s an excuse but it’s not as obvious
true i did not think of that
Please be correct, please 🙏
Big buff or small buff @lofty depot
Gg
S2 set nerfed to 5% increase.
Surge/Starfall buffed by 30%.
LOL
Surelyyyyy
Is boomie dead ?
Why buff starsurge when can buff wrath and doggos

Cuz it does no dam
If 2 classes sim 40% more damage than u. Would u consider it dead?
Ye but remember when doggos did more than SS, those were good times amirite
need to buff starfire
Numbers
we understand, we've buffed lunar calling to 300%
So yes 😭
Well my name was changed yesterday
But there's a reason it says tomorrow and not tuesday
Don't think we gonna get a buff
40% less damage
Just remember that number
Because EU hasnt cried yet
Yes but its blizzard
Ok but what if we press starfall to keep our dots going and proc tier set
Well technically if they want to make everyone around 5.3-5.8...... u would be like 15%-20% inc
But none the less
starfall is bad so that dosnt really do anything
Extends dots with whatever the fuck that talent is called
Doesn't know the talent, ohonk o
Starfall doesn't do damage. The s2 4p, makes it do damage :/
Names are useless
No I meant you press starfall to spend ASP to proc s3 tier set, as an answer to Tettles.tv'd statement
This is going too far
Need to show u how much damage Starfall doesn't do. U can proc it all u want with starfire
@wicked shuttle need a "buffs incoming" pin to manifest it
Well if tettles posts that 11.2 guide maybe the thumbnail will get some people going
starfall is just so you don't have to use globals to reapply dots so you can use more globals on starfire

thanks
It’s over. Tettles is resto only now
Jdot was in here before we got nerfed, so it's only fair tettles returns the favor
Thank you
How do balance druids sim for m+?
mdt or be lazy and 1t5m
1t5m is the st one?
yes
How to do the mdt sim?
read the compendium
its a weakaura that u import a dungeon route with
Ohh ok where can I find the compensationium
ctrl + f "mdt"
it's in the pins, ik for a fact you're not new here
In this channel? Looked for that word in balance pins and don't think i saw
?
Nvm i found
u could do either
they aren't meant to be a 1:1 representation of what you can do, it's just a comparison tool
its not meant for you to reach the numbers, its not meant as a guide on what to do
its meant to test certain options for gearing and talents
what r u trying to use it for
or learn
Just to know what gear to put on
then you're absolutely overthinking it
yea idk why u would consider wiping to be something of value to consider
Like they said before
Just do 1t5m
If youre not try hard title pushing who cares
Yea I agree 1t will work. I remember some specs have different secondaries between aoe and st that's why I asked
Ours is maybe a little more haste but doesnt a massive difference
Anyone able to help me with a sim?
Specifically, I'm curious if i'm inept, or if BiS really isn't an upgrade for me
Almost assuredly inept
I've run numerous with all sorts of embel combinations. Can't find one that outsims my current loadout
yes its 678 and not 684

oh my fucking christ
- you're not simming different embellishments
inept it was :/
oh yeah idk why it didnt show to me
unforch
oop, nothing to see here ladies and gentlemen, move along
This inept idiot is done for the day.
balance druid feels really strong in overcharged delves we might be goated
Lul
With Patch 11.2 PTR now officially moving to release candidate builds, we're likely to see less long lists of changes and instead going to continue receiving hotfixes - likely up to and continuing after launch.
Cool no more builds just hotfixes
they can do a lot of tuning in hotfixes
Surely we get a aura buff tomorrow I think we will be middle of the pack with 20percent
depends on their threshold of highest dps is
idk man locks are simmin like 6.9 mill st
and im prett ysure some mages and hunters do too
mages arent at 6m no
where notes
need eyes on the hunter discord after the next round of nerfs hit
just take all their aura nerfs, and do the opposite to us and maybe we'll be equal
tell that to blizzord
we need an @ blizzard role to direct all our woes
somewhere to rant/vent
just rant in tettles twitch chat
nah cause then he gets paid for that
he streams so rarely
almost daily
Hey they did a hotfix maybe we got buffef
cope
Giga cope
Nah buffs tomorrow dw
its tomorrow in eu land
I’m in Aus and I can confirm here in the future balance Druid got a huge buff and everyone is really happy with it
Don’t ask sheep ask @delicate perch he’s way more helpful
No joke Arctic I bought a name change but now I can’t think of a new name
Ki Ki Ki. Oi Oi Oi
do what i did
ezpz
Bamkin insane in Australia rn
I’m 15 years deep in the wow name Bootypop it’s just hard to let go
shit
Daishdaishdaish
Arctic actually thought I would lie about balance Druid smh
Classic arctic
well ur down under, so maybe ur looking at the meter upside down :/
and were still shit
This guy..
dont ask either of those idiots they've pushed keys at one point
brain broken
O_o

i can confirm from the future (im nz so even further ahead than those aussie bozos @delicate perch & @iron chasm) that we've had our spec deleted, and any character that is spec'd as boomkin will login as an aug as god intended
what if i respec feral first
Massive
#augmentationkittensconfirmed
Ebon meow

didnt feral get deleted last week
They've been deleted through neglect from wat I heard
people would just be abusive
yea but if no one belongs to the role
i think it could actually be a good therapy tool
that's an insane bio
same guy
oh shit
wait it's actually the dev
hi gastank thanks for all ur hard work
what a chad
see the problem is gastank is too trustworthy
and never trolls
this could be the 1 time
the long con

Idk I'm too chicken brained to understand feral notes
Do we reroll feral?
Sometimes my WA meows at me and I get a free bite/ravage, pretty pog
Oh nvm they're dooming too?
rdr >
So I'm healing in 3 weeks?
best way to gear a fresh alt to not be super mega behind? no carry buys
Just gear up during m0 week.
yea but show the guilty reply
delves are kinda cracked for insane rat level alts
I am not reading a feral tweet
based
wats the reply i dont have a x account
this count as rat?
ya defs, do some random content for sparks, craft low ilvl weapon/boots etc then slam some whatever the easiest delve is as brew

warbound items
cant you like
farm mask runs on main to get warbound gear
it gives warbound stuff?
if u get the achievement where u full clear with masks
yea but u need to buy the "ability" to get the warbounds
or sth like that
the drops become warbounds
theres like
buyable up to champ track and theres up to hero that drops at like, 4-5 masks+ or so

im dumb how do you change best in slots to intellect? mine is agility i tried to do the use ability but didnt change it?
read the green shit in the tool tip
...like every week
whats every week
skull emoji
I can't wait to figure out what I'm buying
probably yastor mugz bis, or yastor mugz hoc 
i wonder how close to raid release till we find out if they are nerfing s2 trinkets and stuff
with dinars this season it kinda sucks to tell people that late
but also i guess most people should be able to replace them relatively quickly if they get nerfed during the season
what do dinars have to do with s2 items being nerfed
They don't follow a schedule really, but usually Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday
is there even much point in buying bis, is it really even that big..id have to recraft to non Ascension... T~T
they used to be more consistent i feel
only myth track
season 3 starts in like 3 weeks
define worth it
atp nothing matters
is it cool enough to warrant doing two recrafts to non Ascension and to have another silly on use button
it's barely even an extra button
I mean I'm not gonna grind this char up week 1 most likely
so this is what it'll have for splits
mines macro'd behind hoc in ca and I press it once again during the fight
you're more likely to get a replacement 720 wep through craft
cause boomkin is shit so unless your RL is a boomkin you're not getting trinkets
just loot the funny weapon asap
so get jug/hoc/jast
nah
nice try
but boomkin will be giga buffed
people have always said it comes out on x/y/z day
usually theyll say 'it comes out on wednesdays' when its tuesday and it hasnt came out yet
it's always on Wednesdays 2-4am
or thursday if its wednesday
I'm getting loot ||from vault, sockets to be exact||
truth be told
how much of a dps loss is this 1 button assist thing i took a break for a bit a just heard about it
if you are completely unaware of how to play a class its going to be a dps gain
ya im just curious what the dps loss is
with using it and does it worth for healers and tanks as well
why would they even add that to the game
depends on spec but could be less
wow's a casual game this is a perfect feature for it
Coming back to Balance for S3. Tired of gearing 2 toons to get triple threat etc
i cant catch but im there in spirit
awesome let's do our best
I heard fetch
I’m hopeful and copeful
i know people often say "just sim it" but i just simmed for my gems and its saying Haste>Vers Gems in all gem slots is best. I also noticed that it would often say "(Character Name) does not support fight style Dungeon Slice" am i doing something wrong? 😄
yes you shouldn't do things that aren't supported

so how do i sim for M+ if dungeonslice is not compatible?
you either sim 1t 5min or do a mdt sim.
ok thank you, will give both a try
Holy gastank is alive
where ptr buffs?!
tomrrow forsure
anyone ever have issues with plater like.. clicking sensitivity or something ? like.. when I'm clicking nameplates to dot up, I will be clicking directly on it.. and it won't select it.. almost like there's some invisible padding around each plate that I end up clicking on instead?
I believe there’s a setting in the advanced tab called selection area or something like that
You said that yesterday
tomorrow tm
What is yesterday if not the today of the day before?
buffs incoming
Im so excited
and you just can't hide it?

go away respectable!!
Classic Dreamgrove


do you really though
buff means fotm andies come rolling in once again
and yap this discord down
im flavor of the millenium
who cares
they will exist everywhere
also don't think it's a problem fotm andies exist
idk about u but whenever shadow was meta the discord was giga omega unbearable to be in
guys I'm pushing title keys but I do no dmg? oh yeah I don't use void bolt btw
How will we manage
I think discussions about "our spec needs to be more engaging!!" is more unbearable
broken record

U only say that
Because you dont play it
U only say that
Because ur a fotm andy
Typical dunce L
wrong
I'm both
Show logs then
Holy shit
wachugonnado
No wonder you dont want balance to be more interactive
4 gally kills 
"They're so bad!! not even orange!"
Cant even press wrath starsurge
Love u dunce 
more
this is just balance
my devoker logs are even worse
I have 6 kills on gally for devoker
10 total 🤝
i only have 9 wth
should've geared a hunter
me that is
so I can chill even more
balance druid still too many buttons
have to do a bomb though
good point...
to complex for my small brain
there's a reason I want them to buff aug again
I have 0 kills so Im better
small brain loves dps carry dmg
🤝
Aug good
We have one
It cranks
sus
@royal zenith Btw after we get out of P1 is the rest of the fight easier?
Y es
P1 is the hardest part of the fight and about 80% of your prog
you will struggle a bit with intermission after that (killing adds and prio) and then mess up the last bomb a few times
theres really nothing in p2 that will kill u besides the soak
We are very close to do it perfectly ,but sometimes tank dies and we go again
dodge shit and live
there are guilds who get out of p1 and kill the boss within 3 pulls
^
what part are you stuck on?
or well stuck
progging
it still requires playing the game well, but it's mostly raid lead dif on how long p2/3 takes
yeah it's really straight forward P2/P3
if everything is set up, everyone knows what to do, you just play the game and boss dies
We started entering P2 ,but something always happens there
okay yeah that's pretty normal
kicking shocker thing too early?
or dying before it?
dYING
or dying to funny floor mechanics
Idk I dont ask :))
Hmmm
look at the log?
probably adds + swirlies

people eating electricity
yummy
So: I got HoC HC and a Champ Trinket; already have Jastor HC...
Which trinket to get for 2nd slot via Puzzle Chips? I am mainly doing M+ and clearing HC raid with the guild until end of season
Ah forgot: cant buy mythtrack
Then jug
did not bother to run all +12s on the druid
u still have time
True, but does it really matter? 😄
Pretty much will replace it week 1 or 2 anyway
Could replace it week 0
What ilvl is champ track next season
Yea but u don't upgrade past 691
I dont want to be a hater ,but I just cant ,they invest time in old wow xpacs and retail who is the primary bread winner is just left as an after thought
I keep watching wowhead news and I only see classic classic classic 😦
probably because mop just came out and its by farhas more player playing it than retail since its release week
what time do they even invest in this anyways
But we also have a release soon
the entire expansion is already done
there is still tuning ,bugs to be fixed
Also these classic servers are barely any investment for blizz
Have 2 interns write some shit
And collect moneys
Dont even have to pay the interns so its basically free moneys
Idk bro,but to work for free in 2025 is stupid
and they have done tuning every week
10% overall damage increase or -3 % is not really tuning
if people cry they make a change 1 year into the patch that takes 5 minutes to implement
every trinket items bosses zones art
everything is done
1 janitor is walking around fixing bugs thats about it

😭
It is tho
think its pretty wild to say theres been no tuning when blizzard has probably never been more active in terms of tuning
what you mean is theres no balance buffs
Its bias yes

i was talking about mop, on retail we get giga tuning for non-feral boomkins
they hate us cus they anus 😡
Thats exactly what tuning is
Are we back yet? 
true
nah that has to be cap surely
theres prob more ppl roleplaying in goldshire and farming old content 
Tuning in 2 hours ,trust
Tbh idk if theres much tuning that needs to be done
Bamkin is on the bottom which is intended by blizzard anyways
Warclocks on top
Yeah ,resto is good, at least we have that going on
@lucid olive werent lying, eggs and salmon is fire
Hey guys, quick question for dungeons. Is it generally more important to enter eclipse, use fury and then enter incarn, or just use fury and then incarn to have 2 stacks of natures grace?
its better to straight up incarn from no eclipse
Ok, thank you!
i'd wait for someone who is more sure to confrim but yeah, not only u get nature's grace you also perfectly sync the blessing of the ancient buffs from both eclipses for big dam
EDIT: not true, the balance of all things refreshes anyway
Krauzer is correct. If u enter eclipse it will use up dreamstate stacks which u could've used on 2 starfires in incarn.
I thought maybe the reduced orbital beam thing might be worth the 2 starfires
But now that is cleared. Thank you
U only get a free cycle on sundered firm. And it doesn't piss damage compared to 2 starfires
Sometimes u can precast wrath out of combat and it can be worth it
But most cases, dot everything, foe, incarn
Also, boat restarts when u press inc so it isn't the reason
Good to know, was it always like that or was it changed?
Well ur enter a new eclipse when entering CA, psure it's always been like that
what the fuck is blessing of the ancients
decaying crit change when u enter eclipse
Old spell from legion
am i misremembering the name
bota..
not even the letters are correct..
Is old funnier nature's balance spell
balance of all things
Just know that I knew what u meant, even though u wrote the complete wrong thing
Type shit
dw we all did
lmao look how unbalanced the 2 effects are holy shit
2 AP every 3 secs or +25% from builders
banger ap gen in intermission
where buffs
Tomorrow forsure
Maybe the real buffs were all the nerfs we got along the way
Doubt.... back to 5% total maybe
that would make us cap 100% of the time
Then nerf s2 tier to 5% increase and buff surge/starfall
good one
yea what about it
They don't want us to have big surges
Lol watch them not buff Starfall so then we Starfall at 5t and soulbinder and forge is bad fight
If we starfall @ 5 I delete my boomkin
Blud thinks they're not gonna nerf the tier 

see u in s3
Doubt lil pup
Gonna take that mut to the pound
Never to be seen again
nononono I uh I'm good don't worry no need for any of that, no drastic measures it's okay
Don’t bait me
Blud thinks we're getting anything over a flat 10
we will get 12%
Yep
"guys we were so close getting them to play EC in nerub-palace, this time for sure"
Didn't you know according to Archon EC was the strongest spec in the entire raid

They just averaged out the average dps of anyone playing EC and it turns out that if you only count Ovi'nax EC is actually gigga goated.
EC giga on court too
I assume blizzard just uses Archon tier lists whenever they balance anything, it's the only way for it to make sense
Blud thinks they use anything lol
Woke nonsense
They use an iPad, that's about it

I don't believe in hero talents, they are all specs to me.
damn
it took you this short of a time to make it awkward
that's pretty interesting
Yea man you sure did. You understood what i ment why you have to be that guy?

Deux do be that guy
I'm stirring
frickin wokies with their hero talents and builds
crazy
it’s all specs in the end. Shakespeare never talked about hero talents.
rolls for stir
In the end i should be shot dead in the streets for calling EC a spec and not referring to it as a hero talent, we live in a society, my crimes are too dire.
real. this is the future zohran mamdani wants for bamkans.
Correct. And u should feel bad
hero talents were a DEI hire
Tuning in 1 hour.
to be regularly dissappointed in the middle of the week
I don't believe u
Be there or be square
wait a minute somethings wrong I can feel it
💀
Why r we doing m+ 2 weeks before new patch
Trying to catch up and ur still behind in 2 weeks
stonevault ass wep
catchup now so I'm less behind next week
the fomo never ends
silly
kekkers got kekked
Week 500 no tier is tragic
Big dam inc
Then it.gets nerfed the week after
Waiting 500 weeks to get tier and now it suck
we are so back
oh idk my druid can rot
Hi. I need to choose between Deva. Evoker or Balance Drood for returning into Mythic raids with guildies in 11.2. I saw that Balance droods were "dpsing" well 2 weeks ago. But we got hit by a "big nerf" if i have well understood. What are the approximate values so that I can get an idea? (because the pins don't give me a 'correct' idea)
we dont have a sim for kotg boomy, but im sure its less than devoker
if thats what u care about
Youre better off playing an extra tank than a balance druid
Yes, that's what i wanted to know. I wanted just to know a general idea from the before/after the nerfs
If thats approximate enough for u
Thank you.

@lucid olive @ everyone if you don’t get buffed no balls
man fuck
i should
start social media campaign
Hea buffed, but it's cuz he's playing dev
Use the hashtag #Aurabuffmookin
no room for anything other than moonkin
We could have a sim....
its implemented now
idk like
was still fucked
20 min?
i see
u didnt have to type that
💀
Not equipping til 723 pog
need to make APL to pool AP at end of CA and spend with dryads favor and stuff
is it not spending surges at the end of the ca
not if it doesnt have enough AP
4mil
like no cloak and sht

Wake me up (can't wake up)
Foe in CA pog
Buffs tomorrow
Buff today in about 2-3 hrs
Massive 2p
Impressive
they will prob tune things to around 6 mil or 6.5
no chance
also
did u see bm
that is fine
looks good to me
Take a picture of that, then remind me in February if we are doing over that numby
@ grok
No shot bro
"it's not optimized"
So let's be a widdle nice and say he can add 300k dam
4.79
gatekeeping sims
Full gear tho
thats crazy
What is this propaganda sim
Gonna go tell ulria that someone's leaking in dg
Propaganda would it be saying 5mil
now that i see the numbers, prob gonna tune around 5.5 mil

Surely DK and lock nerfed
That sim is clearly Anti BM propaganda
Yeah, pay me and I'll get it for you
Yea, fuckem
Your spec is OP bro calm down
Dont need the supposed outcomes to a lottery!!
Did I blow my cover
Yea, twitch prime or patron. I can give to u if u want
Gimme my 250k back
WHAT
He said he could smell ur greasy ass from a mile away
BM only sims 6m tho not 7.5 cmon
Blame azortharion
nuh uh
oh let me guess, that sim was "10x dipping" buffs
The plot thickens

Scrapps shared that sim with me
I don't believe
Good
Why would they nerf a perfectly balanced, beautiful, perfect spec
Also I know a balance player isn’t talking about no buttons
Starfire starfall
You’re lying to yourself
Solar beans
It’s a banger if you have a crippling gambling addiction

I go sleep now hopefully I wake up to Boomie buffed or deleted entirely
Fun gameplay
Getting worse next tier btw
Nah u right
i mean if u care about ranks mm raid ranks are completely free
top 10 is 806

my alt is 790 i will prob get r10 after this weeks raid
That’s cause nobody can highroll for 8 bosses straight surely
im playing without pi
Imagine
idk brother i think they have a skill issue
Or could it be that no one takes raiding seriously at this point anymore














it's not a spec





