balance

[scenic mist]

vastly

[dusty bluff]

Big oof

Demonology it is… 🥺

[lofty depot]

Curious

[near raven]

I think the consensus currently is that some tanks outdps us?

[lofty depot]

My avg was around 3.6-3.8 but, 15% is roughly all raid buffs yippie

But curious nonetheless

[molten sandal]

Ah, a bit more than 68%, then cough

[scenic mist]

😉

hence the massive part i mentionned

[lofty depot]

Sent it twice, sick phone

[scenic mist]

thrice actually

[lofty depot]

Yikers

[molten sandal]

I somehow had in mind that added damage isn't affected by buffs, no idea where I got that from, though

[pallid bay]

random numbers on windows calculator

[scenic mist]

a trinket damage wouldnt, but this is added damage to a spell so makes sense it would be affected

[royal zenith]

People all trynna act smart cause they know noone will fact-check

Typical

[lofty depot]

Type shit

[errant flint]

I’ll just wait for actual sims

Speaking of when can we expect those?

[lofty depot]

Aug 12

[errant flint]

nothing before the 12th at all?

[lofty depot]

I didn't say that

[lofty depot]

U might get it before then, but u can expect them to be complete for raid week

[errant flint]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

Trying to be patient eventhough I know the data is incomplete as of right now

[lofty depot]

Well there still doing tuning as well. So tcers give a number out now, then it changes in 3 days. Shrug

U take that number as gospel and never come back to discord. Then in a month comeback and go "wtf u guys lied"

[errant flint]

Funny dorki put out that tier list yesterday and a few hours later CHANGES for everyone

[craggy sonnet]

funny you didnt even understand the tier list premise it seems

[errant flint]

Thats their own fault for not keeping up with their specs changes.

[lofty depot]

Yea, but yet tier after tier people do it

[orchid ember]

Doesn't stop it from happening every patch cycle

[errant flint]

I watched the whole thing and understood thank you. I very well know tier lists are mainly bs especially at this point before the season. They are really entertainment for me.

[craggy sonnet]

doesnt seem like it

[errant flint]

Ok

[craggy sonnet]

cause it is not affected by any of the changes they put out after

[errant flint]

Sounds like a you problem

Im aware it was based on utility, survivability and damage profile

That enough for you?

[craggy sonnet]

ehh, maybe.

[molten sandal]

Speaking of tier lists, where can I find the BiS list?

[lofty depot]

We don't actively make one. Generally there's a list for embell combos and trinkets. But has a warning above it saying sim your character

[molten sandal]

I really need to mark my shitposts better

[lofty depot]

U crossed it out, but got forbid someone think u were serious that is reading it not in the convo

[molten sandal]

True

[leaden birch]

Checkout wowhead, icyveins, and don't forget to check the tier list article, see we are on the bottom, then reroll mage

[molten sandal]

Dang

Can I also reroll Feral

[pseudo merlin]

It's been 12 years 3 months 1 week and 3 days since we stopped using stat priorities, stat weights and bis lists for gearing

It's still like the main thing people talk about in <every class discord>

crazy

[drifting nova]

ackshully

sims use stat weights

[pseudo merlin]

what the fuck are you talking about

[drifting nova]

you dont forget counting to 10 when you count to a million do you

[maiden pasture]

stop falling for kekkers bait

[drifting nova]

I'M RIGHT

LIKE JESUS WAS

[mighty mica]

?

[drifting nova]

is there much point doing higher than 2s pre 640

[nova ocean]

Wat ilvl is that

[pseudo merlin]

yeah youre right

[drifting nova]

turns out I was using my bis with intellect for a dungeon earlier

[pseudo merlin]

Jesus weakauras?

[drifting nova]

[molten sandal]

Plays an animation of Jesus helping you up when you get rezzed

[pallid bay]

723 or w/e

[pseudo merlin]

[nova ocean]

That seems real low

[rich jewel]

4.4m

[royal zenith]

low for what?

he's not simming/doing calculations for maximum damage

[vapid anvil]

Anyone know an addon that I can remove target and focus buffs?

[lofty depot]

shadow unitframes maybe?

elvui does it aswell

[drifting nova]

whats the cap on belt?

[royal zenith]

701 I believe

[drifting nova]

huh, only 1 more quest then

like I never left

[scarlet tapir]

@pallid bay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaDS3gQk2Rc

add this to your playlist

♻️

[pallid bay]

nice mainstage bro

[scarlet tapir]

didnt it burn down

lmfao

or was this not the one

[pallid bay]

yea

u see it in the background

[scarlet tapir]

damn, at least they didnt cancel

[pallid bay]

yeah there's like 10 more stages

[royal zenith]

wait they gone live?!

[scarlet tapir]

which one is the main one!

[royal zenith]

I heard they imported some older make-shift stage

@ O I

[scarlet tapir]

its just a screen

this one

[royal zenith]

ah that's fine tho

go wild

the broken stage in the bg

💀

[scarlet tapir]

aura

[pallid bay]

has to suck though

imagine having payed

[scarlet tapir]

maybe they get discount for next one

[pallid bay]

for like full experience

gg..

banger alert

[rich jewel]

Moonkin sims

[scarlet tapir]

i just tuned in

cause vini vici

[pallid bay]

im working on it..

[plucky valley]

I just squatted 275 for 10 reps ass to the floor really hitting that depth

[rich jewel]

Shop shop

[pallid bay]

at this rate they'll be done 2026

[pseudo merlin]

@royal zenith what happened

what burned down

[royal zenith]

main stage burned down

like 2 days ago

[scarlet tapir]

didnt u see in the news?

[pseudo merlin]

the fuck

how

[scarlet tapir]

even here it appeared on the news

[pseudo merlin]

nope

[royal zenith]

yeah it was everywhere

fireworks + big fire

[pseudo merlin]

crazy

any hurt?

[pallid bay]

dont think so

it was before they opened

[pseudo merlin]

ah

[scarlet tapir]

was during construction for today

or was it yesterday

it started yesterday ig

[pallid bay]

god it looks so lame

[errant flint]

How does boomy plan for large movement in raid? Without roar or dash available just in case those are used already?

[scarlet tapir]

wild charge

cast while moving with pooled ap

[white sandal]

Wild charge

[royal zenith]

don't use dash

ever!!

[maiden pasture]

bangers only

man

real shame about the stage

[errant flint]

[maiden pasture]

it was so beautiful too

[errant flint]

Well now im curious, why not? Go cat form and zoom.

[royal zenith]

cause you can't do damage during dash

shrimple

[drifting nova]

having just witnessed my first chicken of the patch

you need 5000% buffs

[eager raft]

@royal zenith get in here

[royal zenith]

and if you need dash to get into position, you are prepositioned poorly

or caught by surprise

[errant flint]

Hmmm like I was thinking on bosses similar to rashanan and gally

But thats some good points

[maiden pasture]

you try use instant globals while moving. It's one of the reasons you wanna pool astral power. starsurging while moving good. Wild charge is off GCD so try use it between globals. Stutter stepping to cast wraths good. Even just early refreshing of dots is better than running and doing nothing

[errant flint]

So to pull this off effectively wtvr gives me the most uptime and preplan my movement and positioning.

[maiden pasture]

the only boss this tier that has like super heavy movement thats hard to have something for always is mugzee intermission imo

[pallid bay]

movement should be your main focus at all times

[royal zenith]

^

[maiden pasture]

btu with good rng of blue circles, good pre-positioning for each charge, good wild charges, you can really minimise it

[royal zenith]

buggest dps gain

biggest*

[maiden pasture]

ABC

[pallid bay]

how do i position myself to move as little as possible, how do i prepare for the movement in terms of gcds to press

[drifting nova]

die on pull

no movement needed

[maiden pasture]

theres not much thinking needed really for moonkin rotation its very basic, put ur mental energy towards dealing with mechanics, most of which are about positioning and movement

[royal zenith]

typical boostee mentality..

[drifting nova]

tell this druid

[errant flint]

Details screenshots with no context yay

[maiden pasture]

oh yeah heres a big tip

[drifting nova]

key was higher than your peak ackshully

[maiden pasture]

ignore everything kekkers says

[drifting nova]

a 2

[royal zenith]

(he's the druid)

[errant flint]

I thought he was the dead guy

[drifting nova]

hell no, not touched my druid yet and at this point dont want to

warrior big fun

[errant flint]

Any large movements 40yrds or more in the new raid?

[royal zenith]

yeah first boss

to be honest, large movements hardly ever a thing these days

fast + big group happens more often (hence the roars)

and if you have a phase where you have to run a big amount and can't hit boss, it's fine to just go catform or w.e.

[lofty depot]

The only real big one is gally but u can wildcharge and move with surges.

[maiden pasture]

mugzee intermission

[carmine moss]

i miss stellar drift

[errant flint]

Im glad I dont know what that was

Or else I might miss it too

[royal zenith]

allowed you to cast while moving, if you popped starfall

[carmine moss]

starfall had a CD, but you could cast while moving

[errant flint]

[maiden pasture]

was giga banger for raid

[royal zenith]

dunno, just a convenience/lazy thing

with ASP generation we have rn it's fine

[carmine moss]

[royal zenith]

and you'd just be tuned around SD for your starfall

gl with that

[errant flint]

Asp is not Aspergers here I guess astral power

[carmine moss]

I think I prefer that world to this world tuning wise

[errant flint]

I immediately read aspergers lol

[royal zenith]

I think you just want SD

that's all

[carmine moss]

also what happened to your orange complexion Deux?

[royal zenith]

Ive been orange, purple

[errant flint]

Well now I want SD back gibb

[royal zenith]

the whole shebang

we back to being normie

[carmine moss]

congrats

[royal zenith]

🤝

[errant flint]

Youll be back

[royal zenith]

fuck no

[errant flint]

Was almost purple mage

Decided not for me

[royal zenith]

ah, I was talking about role in here

[errant flint]

But somebodies gotta make the cookies

Oh lol

[pallid bay]

mugzee intermission isnt actually a lot of moving

[royal zenith]

^agree

[carmine moss]

omg sune went to whitename also things have changed here

[maiden pasture]

i think its the biggest expose of lack of planning / thinking about movement

much more than gally imo

[eager raft]

his name colour was removed due to his conduct

[errant flint]

What a purple name mean here?

[carmine moss]

purple is mod

[fervent merlin]

Short

[eager raft]

so was deuxs

[errant flint]

Oh

[royal zenith]

sez u respectable

[carmine moss]

conduct?

was Deux whispering sweet nothings again?

[royal zenith]

I don't whisper..

I say it straight to people

!!

[lofty depot]

Start on the edge of the cone, cast forever until the other gets close, run to the otherside while surging. Ezpz

[lofty depot]

Experts only last 1 tier

Gamz gonna demote soon too

[errant flint]

Interesting modship here

[lofty depot]

There are no mods here

[mighty mica]

correct

[lavish hatch]

Will be balance worse than feral in raid after the tunning? At first sight

[lofty depot]

Only some thymes

[lofty depot]

No one knows

[lavish hatch]

Ok ty

[round field]

Depends on the tuning

[dry compass]

Asking us to predict where balance will be post-tuning when blizzard tunes in such inscrutable ways is funny

The only guarantee is mage will be top tier

[errant flint]

🔮

Hello crystal ball, who is the highest dps of them all?

[molten sandal]

Tbh, judging from the past we can form an educated guess

[exotic perch]

mage and lock are always good lol

need for comps and 3 specs to choose from

[plucky valley]

Boomie is always good

[lofty depot]

The educated guess is usually that we can't take advantage of most add spawns because they don't live long enough. We then are usually lower boss damage in these fights when doing said add damage.

[plucky valley]

I’m gas lighting myself

[lofty depot]

And clearly didn't like us taking arcane funnel giga profile

[sour spindle]

Just go dragon form

[lofty depot]

Dragon players are cringe, I will never

[midnight bough]

How good is new dungron from a scale of Freehold to City of Threads?

[crisp scaffold]

new dungeon ? only 1 ?

blizz be slackin

[stone ledge]

Wtb buffs

[obsidian girder]

im sure they will do something

in midnight

[strong stone]

dw about dungeons. By the time boomy got a 3% aura buff all the dungeons will be tuned to be fast and easy

[stone ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-one-piece-luffy-pirate-kin-pirate-king-gif-27077619

[scarlet tapir]

oh no, boomie isnt good in keys for 1 season! what do we do

[round field]

when will boomie be good in raid again

[strong stone]

ok?

[scarlet tapir]

@pallid bay

banger from martin garrix rn

https://tenor.com/view/police-siren-siren-gif-14993722

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-cat-dj-cat-edm-gif-18152720161337819268

[gentle patio]

I do wonder what the meta will be next season.
Vdh, disc, frostdk, enh, arcane?
Or will we somehow see shadow, resto dudu, and prot warr somehow

[mighty linden]

Anyone got a good link for a player profile? Having problems seeing all my dots with the default ui

[lucid olive]

Jundies

linked in Compendium

[mighty linden]

Perf ty

[stuck cove]

boomie confirmed dead? 😦

[lofty depot]

3 weeks til raid

nothing is confirmed

[indigo crow]

RIP boomy for s3

[snow elm]

how bad is boomie currently on ptr assuming no further changes

[lucid olive]

very

[hardy crystal]

Anyone can share with me a Macro for Frenzied Generation? Everytime i try to use the one I created The only thing it does is Turn me from Boomie to Bear without using the Ability

[vital hound]

gotta press button twice

[lofty depot]

form swapping is a gcd and fr is a gcd, press 2 times

[hardy crystal]

fuck it we spamming i t

Thanks for the reply @lofty depot

[signal temple]

Good thing I only play M+ and don't push higher than 10s.

[nova ocean]

We might not even be good in m+ anymore. No idea how impactful the nerfs to like hunter and do are though

[calm plover]

Siiick, started playing moonkin put hours into it to find out that the spec is doomed, well played blizzy

[dusty bluff]

We still have weeks until patch, more tuning will almost certainly happen. Which is my way of saying there’s a chance it gets so much worse

[ebon plover]

we are so back

TL said boomy good

echo said boomy good too

[lofty depot]

Some of us have been playing it for years, it's usually not a problem

[calm plover]

Didn't boomkin suck for awhile, since like legion, then have a small hotspot of being good, then the now predictions of it being terrible?

[lofty depot]

Legion no

[meager storm]

its been terrible since dragonflight season 1

🥀

[calm plover]

That's glorpshit, sir.

[lofty depot]

Everyone always says it's terrible 2 weeks out from patch

Then it gets buffed to within avg

[placid vault]

for once I want it to not jsut be avg bu above avg

[lofty depot]

M+ is a different problem but they don't fully balance around that

[lofty depot]

Play above avg and u'll be above avg

[night gulch]

i mean this tier we were bad out of the gate and they didn't buff until race was over and then it was over a period of a few hotfixes

[orchid roost]

venthyr boomie SoD never forget

[night gulch]

but raid boomkin has been consistently dying for m+ boomkin i guess

[lofty depot]

Correct rwf is 2-3 weeks long. The tier is 6 months long

If ur not in the rwf, ur class desires largely don't matter. Play better, don't get benched

[night gulch]

i mean sure, but i don't necessarily care about farm, I want to be good during my guilds prog, which is like 5-6 weeks

[lofty depot]

Again..... We were fine during prog for 95% of people

[exotic perch]

lmao we suck

[lucid olive]

I can't wait for us to have tier set working in sims so I can see that I won't swap out my season 2 set until mythic ilvl

[lofty depot]

Mythic ilvl and 4p

2p is what 1% dam.... Shit ain't getting swapped

[hasty shard]

Keep in mind for this season (season 2) no one really played Ellune's Chosen for ages. It was all Keeper, until it wasn't.

[lucid olive]

There is 0 chance that two 19m Starsurge casts every 2 minutes is ever better than 20% spender dam on good uptime from the current tier without the ilvl helping

[lofty depot]

U don't want to play EC in raid

[lucid olive]

But can't tell blizzard that or they will nerf season 2 set and not buff season 3 set

[lofty depot]

U wanna cast 2s starfires?

[lucid olive]

EC in raid is dreadful gameplay

[hasty shard]

Of course. My apologies, was referring to M+ only.

[lucid olive]

Also that tier set sucks massive cock

[lofty depot]

It wasn't all keeper?

What u smoking

[hasty shard]

At the beginning of the season it almost entirely was.

[lucid olive]

That's not true

[lofty depot]

Not to be rude, but that's just not true

[night gulch]

if you're talking about keys, its because things didn't live long enough for ec ramp

[hasty shard]

Yeah, again, just for keys.

[lucid olive]

That's also not true

[lofty depot]

I played only EC for keys

[hasty shard]

And there's no rudeness.

It's all good.

[lofty depot]

Week 1 til now

[lucid olive]

Idc if I'm rude but you're wrong

[night gulch]

i didn't play ec until 10s+

didn't really feel worth

[lofty depot]

U could play EC all the way up

Was completely fine

[hasty shard]

And I did.

But a TON of people simply didn't.

[lofty depot]

No one had gear so nothing dies week 1. Ezpz

[lucid olive]

Who are all these people

[hasty shard]

But it doesn't matter now. Now, we wait on the wall and see where the buff gods fall.

[lucid olive]

Are they in the room with us

[lofty depot]

Those "ton" of people maybe did so because they're maybe dumb

Or maybe wanted to play keeper / learn

[hasty shard]

Went by the % on Archon, when these 2 % were completely reversed for ages.

[lofty depot]

To say "it was all keeper" is crazy work

Fuck archon

[hasty shard]

I didn't say it was all keeper.

[lucid olive]

People still think Keeper is quicker with dotting cause the treants Moonfire as if you're not gonna manually Moonfire when tank is gathering anyway

[hasty shard]

I said it was mostly Keeper.

[lofty depot]

U said all

Re read ur statement

[lucid olive]

Nah this clearly says "it was all keeper"

[hasty shard]

Alright. The first statement was clearly wrong. The 3 statements after that, where I said mostly, was the case.

As the logs showed.

[lucid olive]

Archon screenshot doesn't show anything..

[hasty shard]

Well I can't go back in time to show you how EC was less than 3%. Shrugs

I love it way more, regardless.

I'm more than happy that it won out.

[dense steeple]

actually

you could

[hasty shard]

I don't know Doctor Who I'm afraid.

[lucid olive]

You're still wrong man take the L

He's just called The Doctor

[hasty shard]

You honestly believe it's only ever been EC?

You're the one who's wrong.

[hasty shard]

No idea how, but willing to listen.

[dense steeple]

idk how to do it, but internet pages get archived daily

you can just search it up in the right spots

[hasty shard]

It changed when the keys changed into +14-+15s

[dense steeple]

thats why the internet is forever

[lucid olive]

By using actual logs and not fucking archon

[wild dune]

[hasty shard]

You do realize that Archon is owned... by them, yes?

And uses their logs.

[wild dune]

y'all should be practicing feral not arguing about some nothingburger

[dense steeple]

im gonna do it

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-ackchyually-actually-gif-11156171

[lofty depot]

u mena arcane

[dense steeple]

archon is above warcraft logs

[mighty mica]

that doesn't mean anything, it's still how the information is presented, archon's system is just bad

[dense steeple]

warcraft logs parent company rebranded as archon

so archon is not owned by warcraft logs

[hasty shard]

Fair.

[dense steeple]

its infact the other way around

[wild dune]

Someones gotta press motw

[lofty depot]

yea ur resto druid

[hasty shard]

Stand corrected. 😄

What I haven't seen is EC any on streams for PTR. Is it just quite lackluster atm or?

[lofty depot]

both are

[wild dune]

set sucks

[hasty shard]

Or are the usual 5-7 bugs in play again

[wild dune]

losing S2 set is omega bad

[hasty shard]

Balls. Good to know, though.

[lucid olive]

https://web.archive.org/web/20250420025445/https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/balance/druid/mythic-plus/talents/10/all-dungeons/this-week#alternative-talents

That's crazy

Snapshot from April 20th which is little over a month into the tier

The only snapshot from march is right after season start and that still shows EC massively ahead

The most popular Keeper build was 1.4%

That was some dogshit

[placid vault]

slightly related for average +7s on a 645-650 druid for gearing - should we be running EC or KOTG

[cloud plover]

probably kotg

[hasty shard]

So, 1st: I owe you an apology. I am sorry. I can see where my fuckup came into this. I was still in the mindset of season 1. 2nd: I owe you a thanks. I was able to use your link to go back to November of last year in season 1 (not season 2 as I stated), to see where it was the other way around, which was when I had started playing Balance. The progression from November of 2024 up to April of 2025 is what I remember. I apologize for causing any stress, anger or silliness. Thank you for the lesson. And I look forward to what you have to say about season 3, when the time comes.

[cloud plover]

Das a Lotta text in the morning

[hasty shard]

Apologizing and correcting ones errors sometimes requires that, I'm afraid.

[cloud plover]

arguable

[lofty depot]

he's very stressed, its 4am and he stayed up to prove u wrong

(he stays up til 8am cuz hes a degenerate not cuz he wanted to prove u wrong)

[hasty shard]

If I could buy them a drink, I would.

[lofty depot]

u can

[cloud plover]

what's stopping u

[hasty shard]

A link to where their info is. I'll look now.

[lofty depot]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/about

[hasty shard]

Excellent. Thank you.

[cloud plover]

yes

[lofty depot]

disgusting

[cloud plover]

give me a crit/mastery 0 haste viable boomkin set playing EC and I'll sit there slow casting starfires and it'll be my favorite spec in the game

[lofty depot]

wrong opinions, tragic really

[cloud plover]

I like when casters are immobile :(

the essence of "caster" has been long lost with mobility creeping more and more

[lofty depot]

boomkin being mobile, kek

[cloud plover]

my favorite iteration of a caster is ffxiv's black mage before they dropped a million mobility spells on it too and ruined it, wcyd
just about anything was more mobile

[hasty shard]

And done.

Question: What's the general consensus about when Blizz nerfed the casters in general. There was both the DH buff nerf as well as Mage's buff nerf. Was this truly a problem? Or did they just need to better tune more physical dmg comps? Would the state of the game have been better served with them giving rogue/hunter/dks a raid buff instead of nerfing caster raid buffs?

I mean thankfully motw caters to both, and even the shaman one does now too.

[cloud plover]

hunters got their raid buff now and it's just about the most forgotten one ever

don't mention dk raidbuff around a dk they'll cry in a corner.. poor guys...

[lofty depot]

uhhh, i mean the point was likely to keep the buffs in line with others

[cloud plover]

but yea the value of arc. int and brand were nuts, and you don't really want it introduce more raid buffs.. it just makes the game more stale tbh

[hasty shard]

I refuse to call that silly red arrow a raid buff that can only be applied to 1 thing at a time above 80%. 😅

[cloud plover]

so reducing their power to be more along the lines of other ones = good

[lofty depot]

i mean u may refuse to do so but it is

[hasty shard]

So ultimately the caster buffs were in fact too powerful then?

[cloud plover]

unfortunately it is considered one

[lofty depot]

its 1% damage on pretty much every boss

[cloud plover]

yes, their general power compared to the other ones was just higher, cuz there's just far more magic dmg in kits than physical, even melees do some whereas most casters don't rly do physical

[hasty shard]

Such an annoying thing. If they're going to stick with it, at least let it be applied automatically. That would help.

[lofty depot]

as if they have any other buttons to press

so mad i couldnt cast kill command again

[cloud plover]

imagine if every spec could aoe apply it

skull emoji

bm pets apply it with kill command kill cleave
marksman with barrage
survival with bombs

insanity inbound

[lofty depot]

lol idk how they apply it so get fucked

they apply it will kc

[cloud plover]

they just press the gcd button for it atm

unlucky

if kc did it, they wouldn't perma forget about it at least lmao

[lofty depot]

oh

getting trolled

im tilted

[cloud plover]

don't let em bring you down

[lofty depot]

need to put puppy down like an old dog

[cloud plover]

wtf

why puppy

[lofty depot]

cuz i dont know any other dogs

[cloud plover]

ok fake news u lied to me....

[lofty depot]

?

which part

[cloud plover]

u don't know other dogs

[lofty depot]

whos another dog we can put down

[cloud plover]

get this guy instead

[lofty depot]

hes a rata

[cloud plover]

he's werewolf!!

that's dog

[lofty depot]

just an overgrown hairy rat

[cloud plover]

hmmmm

[hollow mist]

gm puppy alpha bumkin

[vapid anvil]

What is haste cap at?

Like is it a percent?

[lofty depot]

theres dr's not caps. and u dont make gearing decisions on any of them. u sim it and the robot will tell u if its an upgrade

[round field]

Yeah but what is haste cap @lofty depot

[lofty depot]

Gatekeeping it out of so spite

[delicate perch]

Imagine not knowing it

[patent girder]

Bit of a new player to boomkin, playing mostly m+.. How are we supposed to use House of Cards? Macroed it to my incarn, but it has 30s lower cd

[vital hound]

in m+ because of whirling stars

itll be up

er time

[patent girder]

Is that recommended over Orbital Strike? Damn, had no idea

[vital hound]

for a couple years now innit

copy the compendium talents

orbital is fun tho tbf

[patent girder]

I seem to have ran into a different problem now. I have both BIS and house of cards, which one is more important to be macroed into incarn? Sorry for the trouble

[sick cargo]

HOC

[patent girder]

Thank you!

[meager storm]

there it is

somehow i didnt see the last one till the last pull before hitting the 200 (used all my luck on those 4 kitas on 3x10s at the start)

[slender dragon]

what my fellow boomies will play in s3 ? (or you still wanna play tank's damage class)

[meager storm]

well i alt hunter and they seem alright, if boomy is actually dead dead i may need to go hunter for prog

[slender dragon]

blizzard didn't liked the '11.2 beyond feedback' post so they nerfed us 😦

[jaunty blaze]

Probably safe to assume you will be equally bad compared to now so dw

[patent vessel]

Hi! I want to learn boomie and I was looking for a nice (not overloaded) wa pack, is there something you can recommend?

I'm really no fan of these condensed ones that just shove everything into a crowded space and have too much information on too little space

[meager storm]

https://wago.io/OiBalance this is the one i use, i just move stuff around/disable things i dont need

[patent vessel]

❤️

(why can I not react on your post?)

[meager storm]

we cant react in the server, ig when it was created people used reactions to type some interesting words

[patent vessel]

😐

[meager storm]

good one

[lucid olive]

Fuckin moderators

[patent vessel]

admin abuse

[mighty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-silly-goofy-top-text-gif-8766571965937312269

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-pussycat-feline-gif-26001328

[lucid olive]

Can't react, can't stream, need heavy auto mod all cause purple names don't wanna moderate

Smh

[meager storm]

[patent vessel]

while we are at it, can I get coached on balance from someone here? I will pay with a soda and some reasonable amount of gold

[mighty mica]

no

[lucid olive]

Post logs and ask questions and someone will usually answer

[meager storm]

its 6 am on na, idk if eu "people" are awake by now

but they will look at ur logs

[patent vessel]

there are none lmao

I was raiding on ele for the season and I just wanna switch, but since im going into prog I just wanted to hang with someone who is at the pink log mark and go over the basics together

[lucid olive]

Read Compendium linked in channel description and pinned messages, do content and log or record your gameplay and either DM someone or post it

[patent vessel]

see, I prefer a personal experience

[lucid olive]

Unfortunate

[patent vessel]

thanks

[lucid olive]

Very hard to give concrete advice and help without having a log or a vod to go off of

At that point it would just be sending screenshots from the written guide

And what's the point in that when I could just tell you to read the guide instead

[patent vessel]

its okay, everyone has their own way of coaching, the way I did it a number of years back for arena I just had people in vc, talked over stuff, played together and so on, I helped people get to glad

[lucid olive]

Yeah nobody's going to do that for some soda

[patent vessel]

I was gonna pay in ~2m gold too but I lost interest anyway, no offense but getting told off like that really didn't sit right with me

hope y'all have a nice day, gonna spend some time with the family

[mighty mica]

cool bro

[vital hound]

[jaunty blaze]

Always be casting. That'll be 2 million then. Thanks

[scarlet tapir]

send me the 2m ill coach you after

[lilac citrus]

didnt they revert the tier nerfs ? its stil nerfed on the ptr

[vital hound]

they just announced em

and corrected themselves

[lucid olive]

no but you should tell them to do it

[delicate perch]

I was gonna pay in ~2m gold too but I lost interest anyway, no offense but getting told off like that really didn't sit right with me

[round field]

After reading that

Mby being timed out isnt such a bad thing

[rich jewel]

I was gonna pay in ~3m gold too but I lost interest anyway, no offense but getting told off like that really didn't sit right with me

[noble spindle]

U can pay me that gold and I'll teach you how to train the best of umas

[pallid bay]

thats crazy

[meager storm]

@noble spindle how we feeling, this is 1 day after reroll

[noble spindle]

Not mlb tosho

Reroll again

[meager storm]

top gun just being a low budget super creek

[twin lotus]

what even is this

[meager storm]

horse girl game

goes hard

[twin lotus]

kinda yikes

[meager storm]

i thought the same till i installed it

[cloud plover]

ur so real for that

[twin lotus]

IDK, I guess everyone likes what they like. Kinda yikes for me to not just move on

[round field]

U look like someone who would spend 1k a month on horse girls

[cloud plover]

it's okay u can drop a funny comment about people cheering for horse girls

[quiet drift]

Swinging Maestro is the good part

Half the value of that card

[night silo]

Is elune tier set really that bad in s3?

[scenic mist]

It’s not « really that bad », just way less powerfull than the current set bonus

So overall the spec is in a worst place

[round field]

so ur saying

its really that bad

[wild dune]

its joever

[dry compass]

Most other classes are getting extremely strong tier sets, ours are a borderline downgrade

So comparatively, yeah really bad

[digital berry]

Idk what kinda beef blizz has with boomkins

[lofty depot]

What if I told u it wasnt borderline

[dry compass]

then you must be the borderline

[dry compass]

no joke a blizz employee sent me this yesterday (it was a joke)

[lofty depot]

Tell that guy to start playing it

[scenic mist]

Surely ilvl makes up for it

[lofty depot]

The 2p is ass and does next to nothing

[scenic mist]

Huge 150k surges wdym

Need to find a way to motivate my dryad

[digital berry]

SURELY they won’t leave us in this state at the start of s3

This is so bad

[ashen granite]

Any hope in S3 for those of us who love Grove Street or is KotG just unusable in m+ forever?

[wild dune]

look up how many aura buffs rdruid had in s1

18% in total iirc

[digital berry]

I mean sure but that still would probably mean being absolute utter trash for like half of prog before they would buff us enough

[wild dune]

buffs inc surely but itll be a miserable few weeks

[lofty depot]

both of them pretty beans

[ashen granite]

that's probably gonna get better. I'm just concerned about EC being so much better for quite a while over KotG which i love a lot to play

are they at least equal in power as of now?

[lofty depot]

"probably gonna get better"

my sweet summer child

[clever ibex]

when aura % buff? pls?

[hasty shard]

I would much prefer them find a way to give us full moons and actual interesting (and better looking) gameplay instead of another % slap of tape.

[hasty shard]

But given the timeframe now...

[clever ibex]

oh yeah me too, and remove eclipse as a mechanic, but it ain’t gonna happen

[lofty depot]

would need to make them do damage

[hasty shard]

I don't even mind it as a concept, but I feel it needs to be some kind of versatile cooldown, not some track and field sprint back and forth nonsense.

[lofty depot]

make moons castable while moving

[hasty shard]

Or scrap new and half moons, put full moon on an instant 20sec cd and push it straight into rotation instead of talent.

[lofty depot]

yea ur high

[hasty shard]

I can dream lol

I just don't understand why they hated moons so much that they (iirc) double nerfed them, then gave Whirling Stars which you can't use moons in properly, then just slapped FoE tape on it. Was there some kind of outrageous moon play going on that warranted them kicking it off the street and into the sewer or?

[lofty depot]

well iirc at the time moons and foe were fighting and we played flare and people didnt all those casts so they complained

might have been wild mushroom too, cant remember

[vapid anvil]

The reason I’m asking is for a more specific reason than just simming it. I heard boomies should be getting piied in lust because dks with their base haste and lust are at haste cap. Are they at such a dr that giving them lust does nothing?

[lofty depot]

pi ing a boomkin and not arcane mage sounds troll

and no, ur no where near any problem of haste

[cloud plover]

piing an arcane mage

[lofty depot]

its curious the udk is too high haste

[signal temple]

[cloud plover]

I have a feeling he just got trolled

[lofty depot]

also again the "herd dks with base haste and lust are at haste cap".... again theres no cap

[scarlet tapir]

why wouldnt u pi arcane if u have a big mob with funnel or a boss with funnel

[lofty depot]

he might not like having fast spells but hes being dumb

[scarlet tapir]

goes infinite

[cloud plover]

cuz their gains are uh, pretty small

generally not that worth

[lofty depot]

bigger than bamkin

[vapid anvil]

Sorry this didn’t make any sense to me at all

[lofty depot]

THERES NO CAP

this isnt classic

[scarlet tapir]

surely trolling

[cloud plover]

haste does not have a realistic, reachable cap by any means

[vapid anvil]

Are priests piing dks because dks gain almost nothing from it then because the soft cap is so high with lust and pi for them?

[wild dune]

xd

[lofty depot]

u think cuz it hits 1 dr that its suddenly the wrost thing ever?

[cloud plover]

it's almost like we're both priests and you could totes check for yourself that it's at best middling

[vapid anvil]

You think with around 100 haste they are in 1 dr? The dr doesn’t ramp or there isn’t multiple levels of them?

[lofty depot]

there is

and ur wrong

[vapid anvil]

Wrong about what?

[vapid anvil]

I didn’t say that

[lofty depot]

i promise ur friend is no where near the haste problem

[wild dune]

hitting haste dr doesnt make lust bad for uhdk

also there is no "cap" on any tert stat

[lofty depot]

ur friend likely is barely above 30

[vapid anvil]

That’s their base haste? Then ad pi and lust on that. Add the defile talent they are easily near 100

[cloud plover]

Also, just note that neither pi nor lust contribute to dr as they're not rating (as far as I'm aware)

[lofty depot]

yes ik

and i promise all of them still get PI'd

sometimes if mage has cds up, they get pi'd

[vapid anvil]

Groups just started switching to piing boomie in lust pulls apparenty.

[vapid anvil]

Only in pull prio target priority pulls with funnel is that true.

[lofty depot]

yes

which theres almost always one

just play with a pally 🙂 no more pi problem

[wild dune]

oh hes talking about m+

[lofty depot]

yes

[vapid anvil]

I’m talking about first pull of cinder flood those kinds pulls mage never gets pi and people used to give it to dk and some groups still do but most have switched to giving it to boomie because dks aren’t gaining much from the pi

[lofty depot]

well those specific 1 pulls in (doing math........ 2 dungeons) sure

[vapid anvil]

Yeah sorry for the confusion. I don’t care who gets pi in raid. And I only brought it up because everyone in my group is saying I should get pi now over our dk and he was wondering why so I’m asking for more clarity

[lofty depot]

well some of us knew what u were talking about is fine

[wild dune]

m+ historically is played off vibes and "this felt good this pull"

[vapid anvil]

I just listed to pulls of the top of my head mages are hardly ever getting pi

[lofty depot]

depends on his haste

he can go sim it

to see if its not good

and it still is a sim question

[vapid anvil]

Simming goes to 8 targets so not very helpful

[cloud plover]

idk what the meta is in cinderbrew but if you pull chewie along which I assume high keys do you'd absolutely pi mage tight

[cloud plover]

have you ever heard of dungeon route sims

[vapid anvil]

Yes I was talking about first pull.

[lofty depot]

factually incorrect

[vapid anvil]

Yeah those aren’t accurate I’ve heard

[cloud plover]

how does that make any sense

hahaha

ur literally simming ur route

[vapid anvil]

The option goes to 8?

[lofty depot]

yea totally

[cloud plover]

there's nothing more accurate than literally simming the route ur doing with the pulls ur doing

[lofty depot]

mdt sim is how u would do it tho

[vapid anvil]

So 10?

[lofty depot]

u said 8, u were wrong

heres ur L

[vapid anvil]

If the sim worked I agree I’ve heard it’s not accurate though

[cloud plover]

Man

you hear a lot of bullshit

stop listening to people

[lofty depot]

well its "innaccurate" but u likely dont know why

and isnt because of the first pull being wrong

[vapid anvil]

Dude calm down so it’s 10 that doesn’t even diminish my point in that it’s not helpful because so many pulls are way paste 10 targets that I would be wanting to sim dk on

[cloud plover]

he just wanted to tell you that 10 isn't 8 so you were wrong regardless of if it changes anything or not

[vapid anvil]

I didn’t say I know why it’s inaccurate I’ve been told by people that do know why to not use it so I don’t

[lofty depot]

type shit

[lofty depot]

yea but ur worried about said first pull

which isnt why its inaccurate

[vapid anvil]

Cool it’s 10 I agree it’s 10 and I said 8 I don’t get the big deal

[wild dune]

[lofty depot]

ur just parroting something u dont understand

u can sim the problem

[vapid anvil]

You’re just arguing things I’m not saying at this point

[lofty depot]

im not

[vapid anvil]

You can’t

How do I sim the first pull of cinderbrew for example giving the dk the pi or giving the boomie it because I don’t know how?

[wild dune]

sim dungeon route

[cloud plover]

because as we just said, mdt exists

you hear it's inaccurate but consider trying it

[vapid anvil]

It’s not accurate

[lofty depot]

well if u read the part where i said u MDT sim

[cloud plover]

don't stop at "I hear it's bad"

[lofty depot]

thats NOT WHY ITS INACCURATE

[cloud plover]

it's dumb to listen to that

[wild dune]

not gonna get better bud

[vapid anvil]

I can look into that

[lofty depot]

stop saying it

hoyl fuck

[wild dune]

go do a resi key, do 1 pull with bomie getting pi then the next with dk geting it

not convinced do it again

[crisp scaffold]

I do more than a dk if I get PI

[vapid anvil]

That sadly doesn’t work either because of procs like bloodbeast

[wild dune]

oh my god

im done

[cloud plover]

[wild dune]

delete m+

[lofty depot]

there are some groups pi-ing boomkin first pull of some of these dungeons

it looks like they just started either jun or jul

do what u will with that info

[vapid anvil]

It’s who gains more from pi not who does more with pi. Like you might do more dps with pi but you only gained let’s say 100k dps but he would have gained 200k

[lofty depot]

(it took me 8 logs to find this info out)

[crisp scaffold]

Bruh I gained 8 mil dps

[scarlet tapir]

xd

[vapid anvil]

That’s what I was saying. I’m just trying to get an answer for my dk. I don’t care who gets piied at the end of the day but my priest won’t pi him and he doesn’t know why

[lofty depot]

well its ur priests pi so who cares

[crisp scaffold]

Of he's bad he won't get pi

[fervent merlin]

Kick him

[vapid anvil]

Sure I was just throwing out a number alright you gained 8 mil but he might have gained 9 for example even though you did more dps the difference pi makes is what matters.

[vapid anvil]

The priest or dk?

[lofty depot]

u know thats liekly the case right

that its still marginal regardless

[vapid anvil]

He’s solid for sure

[crisp scaffold]

Dk is best for pi in general

[wild dune]

the flat dps gained on a pull like 1st cinder is also meaningless.

who gets the most on prio

[cloud plover]

Chat chat chat I gained 10m dps on the trash mobs but the big guys are still alive im so cool

[vapid anvil]

Yeah I know. That’s why I don’t care who gets it. I’m just trying to get insight for the dk. Which I think I’ve gotten from this

[lofty depot]

should make the dk go get insight

[vapid anvil]

There’s 3 prio mobs.

[crisp scaffold]

Ask ppl who do 20-21s they know better

[lofty depot]

yea but ur not a prio class which is kind of the point

[lofty depot]

i look at logs >

[vapid anvil]

He probably is also but I like to know. I thought there was a haste cap and now I know there’s not

[lofty depot]

and watch dwilkz

[vapid anvil]

I’m doing 20 keys

[lofty depot]

theres dr's rolling up.

[wild dune]

ok

who gets

the most

[lofty depot]

starts at 30%

[wild dune]

on the 3 prio mobs

!

[crisp scaffold]

I watch him,but he has premade ,it's worlds apart from pugs

[lofty depot]

well this guy isnt pugging

so

[vapid anvil]

Like who does the most? It used to be dk but now it’s boomie I think. Boomie also gains extra nature vigil healing with the just is also a huge benefit. I do about 50-70 mil healing in the nature vigil

[lofty depot]

ur likely getting 1-2 more starfires out

it aint that big

[vapid anvil]

Mage is the reason 1 muscle dies though

[crisp scaffold]

Ol my friend who is the best dk EU said if u don't pi Dk u are trolling the key

[wild dune]

[digital berry]

[lofty depot]

best dk eu type shit

[vapid anvil]

Tell that to the groups piing the boomie now

[jaunty blaze]

damn thats crazy

[lofty depot]

well maybe theyre shit

[fervent merlin]

Just depends ur group

[vapid anvil]

True

[lofty depot]

dwilkz aint getting pi

🙂

[crisp scaffold]

Yep

[digital berry]

At that high key lvl there really isn’t much comp diversity tho

[lofty depot]

stupid ellesmere rat

[wild dune]

[fervent merlin]

Player diff tho

[vapid anvil]

I think he means skill level not comp

[lofty depot]

i dont htink thats what he means

[digital berry]

Its not like boomy has a high skill ceiling

[vapid anvil]

He just clarified and said player diff

[fervent merlin]

Hpal changes stuff

And player diff

[crisp scaffold]

Idk ,a good Boomie can gap hard an average boomie

[vapid anvil]

Yes it can

Gear is a huge diff also.

Need 8/8 M ideally

[lofty depot]

are none of u 8/8?

u and ur dk arent but i didnt check others

[digital berry]

Yikes

[crisp scaffold]

U can't do high keys without mithic trinkets ,wep, rings

[stone ledge]

I mean you can

[lofty depot]

hes doing high keys with out htem

[stone ledge]

Gotta remember people were pushing 18’s in heroic gear

[lofty depot]

his dk aint got shit

[crisp scaffold]

Dk is op ofc

[lofty depot]

yea wcyd

[stone ledge]

Skill > 1.5% gear increase

[vapid anvil]

I am on my ret dk and boomie

[crisp scaffold]

Can have vet gear still does 7mil

[stone ocean]

Ban DK alts this tier

[stone ledge]

So we’re just rage baiting. Obviously vet can’t do 7m

[lofty depot]

oh i must have clicked something else

i didnt see ur gally log

weirdge

[vapid anvil]

I promise you it’s way way more than that. Gear just gives you wiggle room to not suck. But I promise going from heroic jasper house mug and best in slots to mythic is not anywhere near 1.5 % over a key

[lofty depot]

so its less

[vapid anvil]

Who’s log? Mine?

[lofty depot]

ye

idk i must have clicked 11.1

and saw 0 kills so i was like oh not 8/8

[vapid anvil]

My galley kill is so sad on my boomie my macro got messed up and i never used best in slots once in the fight

[stone ledge]

I get .7 from mug jug from heroic to mythic, got .6 from bis, and like .9 from jastor sorry 2.2

[lofty depot]

well i didnt mean the parse idc.... it was just a gear thing

[vapid anvil]

Most of my reclears have been on my dk and ret

[stone ledge]

Biggest increase is to actually understand when you need to defensive/bear form in big keys

[vapid anvil]

Is that single target increase or aoe?

[stone ledge]

Same sim

[lofty depot]

is the mdt sim inaccurate or

[stone ledge]

Depends on your group. If you are pugging simming mdt is basically useless

Imo

[lofty depot]

it was a yoke cuz he was saying it earlier and i got get a jab in

[vapid anvil]

I had an insane bear the other day in 20 rookery. I was bear regening first boss area a channel on me and the aoe I thought I was safe went out of bear took 1-2 more ticks then saw my health at like 20 beared the last tick to like 2 percent and lived

Didn’t have pot or renewel

[lofty depot]

smh

[vapid anvil]

I’ve never heard of an mdt sim so I’ll have to look at it. Is it just the dung route sim?

[lofty depot]

yes

its called mdt which is a dungeon route sim

the reason its inaccurate is because it uses cds in weird spots at the end of pulls and the APL isnt really made for it

[vapid anvil]

Is there a point to doing it? Like what is inaccurate about it and how can I avoid why it’s inaccurate if it’s possible

[lofty depot]

but for ur problem at the start of a dungeoin

[vapid anvil]

Okay

[lofty depot]

u can look at it

[vapid anvil]

So I couldn’t do it for like a specific pull in a dung with given cds?

[lofty depot]

i generally if i want to see an aoe thing i just do a 5t1m and 5m and see the interaction then run a 5m1t sim and see what happens

but thats usually seeing what a trinket does

stats are w.e. sim st who cares

aoe haste vs mastery is a little more even so it doesnt really matter

[vapid anvil]

It’s hard because atleast with floodgate first pull I like to single incarn it so it would be hard to sum piing me on that because it would double incarn

I’m using the vers proc on belt

[lofty depot]

maybe its saying u should double incarn then

everyone uses vers proc

[vapid anvil]

The sim is going to double send incarn but that’ll be slower for the key in my opinion because then I can’t incarn either pull 2 or pull 3

[lofty depot]

i think is fine u dont have to use 2

cant remember

[crisp scaffold]

2x incarn first pull only if dps is low

[lofty depot]

2nd pull is like 2m in

first pull like 30-45

shrug

should be fine

[vapid anvil]

Currently my favorite is to send 1 incarn on each pull all the way to duo boss then incarn with pot on pull. Then send 1 more during the fight and then start saving for big momma

Single incarn first pull also let’s dk get unholy right as the architect jumps down

[lofty depot]

i thought we didnt care about the udk, smh

[vapid anvil]

That’s the priest

[lofty depot]

we dont care about him either

that guy causing problems

[vapid anvil]

I just want to click starsurge for prio dps like gore chop but stupid blizzard makes pulls that I have to click starfall

[lofty depot]

u can do that next tier

[vapid anvil]

But we play keep next season right? I like lines chosen it’s my first season playing boomie

[lofty depot]

right now ur mage next tier

[vapid anvil]

Whcih one?

I play with 2

[lofty depot]

dont know, arcane looks best

[vapid anvil]

Wait sorry maybe I didnt understand what do you mean by "ur mage next tier"

Like im going to swithc of boomie and play mage?

[lofty depot]

yes

or mm 👀

[vapid anvil]

Possible it depends on how the meta goes

Are you really good with addons Wa and UIs I have a really specific issue that i need to fix

[lofty depot]

ask and maybe someone can

[vapid anvil]

Without using elvui how can I get rid of the buffs above my target. I have done it befroe but I accidently deleted wow without saving a lot of my personal changes

I got edit mode expanded and Betterblizzframes

[lofty depot]

i used to use shadow unit frames

[vapid anvil]

Yeah without that also I like the default blizzard frames

[lofty depot]

but in the search bar look for buffs or target

[vapid anvil]

I just want the buffs gone

[lofty depot]

somewhere in there

[vapid anvil]

Thank you

[stone ocean]

Have they said what the rewards are gonna be like from the hard mode mega dungeon does anyone know

[lofty depot]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/tazavesh-hardmode-returns-eight-boss-megadungeon-in-season-3-377248

[vapid anvil]

I lvoe you thank you. those buffs are so annoying

[stone ocean]

Seems like it gonna be abit difficult until gear is no longer a problem

[lofty depot]

10s week 1 ezpz

[wild dune]

if its tuned like a 10 itll be a joke week 1

[stone ocean]

Oh so legit get + 10 gear with ease

[lofty depot]

depends if it actually gives 10 gear / 10 vault week 0

having week 0 actually have something to do wooo

[stone ocean]

I mean w for the content yea im hoping its just good gear if its scaled like a 10

[ebon plover]

Are we back?

[round field]

yea

back in the dumpster

[lucid olive]

Where we belong

[wild dune]

login feral

[ebon plover]

Frick man

evoker it is

[slender dragon]

wdym back?? we are under war fury

[lofty depot]

whats for dinner

[sudden pawn]

you

[lofty depot]

👀

[lucid olive]

I had some pizza

Went out bowling with a couple friends, now gonna watch Superman

[lofty depot]

My phone is dying

[lofty depot]

It was decent, coming from someone who doesn't particularly like superhero movies

[vapid anvil]

Theres a haste cap for gcd? 101%?

[lofty depot]

yessem

well i think technically its 100 but shrug

[uneven elk]

Hey guys, so uhh apparently simming for dungeon slice isnt supported on balance spec, any way for me to more or less sim m+?

[mighty mica]

1t5m lazy sim, mdt for more confidence. read the compendium for more info

[uneven elk]

will do, thanks!

[lofty depot]

think thyme makes new account to then respond to get his chats quota up

[crisp scaffold]

lol

[lime blade]

How much is boomie simming at after nerfs?

[lofty depot]

its not

we dont have sims

[lime blade]

apl not implemented or?

[lofty depot]

tier not implemented

new talent just got implemented iirc

[lime blade]

Damn was it never implemented ? Or just after nerfs?

[calm ibex]

New talent?

[royal zenith]

[calm ibex]

Am I dumb and just forgot

[lofty depot]

theres a new talent, when new talent come in, everything breaks

took away mediation

[calm ibex]

Ohhh right

For the 3% avoidance

[calm ibex]

Give us the magic damage

[jaunty blaze]

Thats so pog

[lofty depot]

we do take those

sune and gas working diligently

[jaunty blaze]

Big numbys trust

[lofty depot]

u mean small numbys

[jaunty blaze]

[calm ibex]

Buff boomy

[royal zenith]

buff me

[scarlet pebble]

can someone give me the current m+ build for 11.2 on ptr ?

[lofty depot]

u can use the ones in compendium

theres isnt a current best one, its ptr go test some shit

[scarlet tapir]

buff dev

[scarlet pebble]

it's not about best 😄 i don't know shit , so i use the same as the 11.7?

[lofty depot]

sure

[calm ibex]

Didn’t they get a 3%

[scarlet tapir]

dont care

[calm ibex]

Fair

[scarlet tapir]

needs to be numba 1 againm

[calm ibex]

If boomy is hot garbage I may go dev which I really don’t want to do

But if they keep getting buff after buff…

[ebon plover]

That’s my plan is just to play dev

or maybe Aug

[lofty depot]

mage >

always have spot

[calm ibex]

I think I’m our only Druid main though

[lofty depot]

play rdru

ezpz

[calm ibex]

We have a feral who I believe is maining evoker

I can’t heal for shit ngl

[lofty depot]

not anymore

[calm ibex]

Played dps to long

I can only tank and range dps

[lofty depot]

healing ezpz

[calm ibex]

Maybe but I just don’t have the brain for it

[celest narwhal]

I don’t get raid healing. Mythic + healing much better

[lofty depot]

raid healing ezpz, learn timings of damage place tr til u learn it

rl tell u when to use major cd, else just slam until told otherwise or need later timings

[lucid olive]

Good movie