#balance

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dull saffron
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Oh shit I clicked on the wrong one

lofty depot
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Factioning

dull saffron
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🤦🏻‍♂️

lofty depot
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What that mean

scenic mist
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BALANCE > FERAL anyways

dull saffron
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Appreciate yall pointing me in the right direction

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Thanks for the help

lofty depot
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U just do the quests and it finishes generally when u hit 80

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Idk if they removed the requirements to get to places yet

scenic mist
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tbf the game is still very begginer unfriendly

lofty depot
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Ull likely have to do the undermine shit

dull saffron
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How do yall feel about retail vs classic

scenic mist
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why not love both ?

dull saffron
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Agreed

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I’m coming from EQ p99 blue where we have been time locked in the first 3 expansions since 2010

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I want to see new content with developers and a real community

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P99 blue is just all of us older snarky people, gate keeping content bs etc

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Surprised the community here has been somewhat receptive, I’m a noob again

scenic mist
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why gatekeep when helping you could make you our next teammate ?

scenic mist
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we are the runt of the litter

agile nimbus
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dudes do you still have to stand on melee when convoking?

celest narwhal
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anyone know if ptr is back up

lofty depot
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He's lucky I didn't roll a dice

lofty depot
agile nimbus
lofty depot
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Should I have said we haven't had to this expansion?

agile nimbus
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yeah better, thanks

scenic mist
scenic mist
lofty depot
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That guy is toxic, what u mean

scenic mist
sullen perch
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PTR changes are up

celest narwhal
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why can i not find the post

halcyon siren
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upd: ignore guardian segment

scenic mist
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they just blue posted the changes they made on the 14th

celest narwhal
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aoo nothing exciting

sullen perch
agile nimbus
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why bother, they are going to nerf the shit out of druids anyway, as per usual

lofty depot
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Kotg notes are already in just weren't blue posted before

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Also confirms the 50 spell power /2

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Tragic

scenic mist
royal zenith
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it's not that weird to nerf an outlier

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what happens next is more important

rough marten
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Chat is it dooming time

royal zenith
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always

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if you're not nr. 1

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you are basically last

lofty depot
scenic mist
sudden pawn
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with these changes, will my guild be able to participate in the race to world first or is me playing moonkin going to hold them back?

royal zenith
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Dunno, few weeks left

sudden pawn
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damn it!

scenic mist
rough marten
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Get ready to learn feral

lofty depot
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Deux getting trolled by froyo, smh

sudden pawn
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noooo SHOCKED

royal zenith
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not that I'm hopeful, just no point in thinking this is the end

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nah froyo is gucci

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you're unaware arctic

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but that's okay!!

lofty depot
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I'm aware

royal zenith
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it's the same as thinking it's the end of tuning days 2 weeks ago

scenic mist
royal zenith
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when you were op

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useless thought process

sudden pawn
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soon tm

royal zenith
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We'll be mid on ST regardless

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can't have WF race be stacking druids

bronze quail
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One more tuning I believe

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I want balance to be ever so slightly over mid. They can die for M+ tbh

lofty depot
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Well there will be more than 1

royal zenith
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also have no clue how hard the other classes got hit

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for raid that is

lofty depot
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Seems hard

bronze quail
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SP took wuite a big hit tbh

royal zenith
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exactly

bronze quail
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So did fdk

placid vault
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balance is still undertuned tho right?

royal zenith
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undertuned for what

lofty depot
lucid olive
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Yes spec sucks ass

lofty depot
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That sounds a lot like balance druid

bronze quail
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Mages took somewhat hit too

lofty depot
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Can i please be buffed

ivory torrent
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correct me if im wrong but these nerfs are like 97% around m+?

royal zenith
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insert random number streamer mentioned

royal zenith
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was it tettles

ivory torrent
wild dune
lofty depot
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The kotg are already live

ivory torrent
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ye ye i know but the duration

wild dune
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theres plenty of damage amps in raid

bronze quail
wild dune
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that youd abuse the duration for

lofty depot
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Yes

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U can still abuse the duration

wild dune
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imagine if we saw 1bil starsurges man

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IMAGINE

lofty depot
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But not as long away from the next pack

ivory torrent
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yeah i dont care about m+ i only raid

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was just making sure

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ty

lofty depot
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It's nerfing the concept of holding

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Regardless of m+ or raid

bronze quail
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Tbh we are probably kind of fine, this season we are worse off no?

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For raid that is

royal zenith
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nobody knows

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you need actual raid testing to know

bronze quail
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No Im talking current season

royal zenith
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in M+ it's pretty bad

lofty depot
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We weren't the top of log anyway and we got a like 44% nerf on surge.

lofty depot
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Looking at the testing and taking 2min pull is worthless

scenic mist
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learn to read

royal zenith
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don't think we're that bad this tier in raid

scenic mist
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imma get u

royal zenith
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just not Devoker

ivory torrent
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and balance was way closer to the top than bottom or even middle

scenic mist
ivory torrent
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(purely analysing ptr raid testing logs)

royal zenith
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guess damage pattern is also just mid

scenic mist
autumn raven
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I think nerf happened after mythic testing

ivory torrent
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thats a wild number knowing it was a 5% to 3% nerf

ivory torrent
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and it was only one part of the tier set

bronze quail
ivory torrent
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ok didnt know about the damage cap

bronze quail
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according to logs that is

lofty depot
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That nerf is like a 45% nerf

royal zenith
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you really need to be way more specific

scenic mist
ivory torrent
royal zenith
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cause on stix you're topping damage

lofty depot
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Surge/tier damage

drifting nova
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how does the raid have bugged trash 3months later

crisp scaffold
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Imagine they buff balance again next week

placid vault
lofty depot
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Please explain where they buffed it the first time

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"again" kek

royal zenith
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I think

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it's time to just go inactive

lofty depot
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We need u Mr deux

pallid bay
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its over guys

devout hazel
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guys, boomkins dead 💔 its time for everyone to reroll ret paladin

humble lantern
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Another L for chickens

autumn raven
hazy storm
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Are we up or are we down

lofty depot
topaz jetty
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nerf for boomkin suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

lofty depot
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Very smol numby

warm briar
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Anyone hoping that this D team was going to keep boomkin competitive was drinking some spiked hopium

pale swan
hazy storm
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Thanks

scenic mist
hazy storm
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Sick

scenic mist
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from july 14th

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situation is still as described in pin

hazy storm
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I haven’t been in this channel for awhile I just wanted a general vibe on boomies now a days

scenic mist
lucid olive
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F tier raid, B tier m+

autumn raven
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we are fried chickens now

lucid olive
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Hope your guild has a comfy bench

hazy storm
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My raid spot is in danger

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I guess I am the bench now

scenic mist
gentle patio
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You can still reroll shadow priest

lucid olive
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Remember to reapply dots in Tigers Fury

hazy storm
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Ok well tell my raid lead to get off shadow priest

scenic mist
lucid olive
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And with Bloodtalons up

hazy storm
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Oh

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We’re that down bad

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Got it.

sudden pawn
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u will NOT get world first if you play moonkin

hazy storm
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I understand now.

sudden pawn
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and ur guild will lose 50 ranks

gentle patio
autumn raven
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maybe we can shine a bit on some AOE bosses on raid kekw

scenic mist
warm briar
scenic mist
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all we can do now is glorp

hazy storm
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Ok

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Raid spot isn’t in danger. I’m good.

warm briar
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I’m glad Blizzard made my decision whether I was going to play S3 seriously for me and got it out of the way before it went live

gray bluff
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My guild wants me to play boomie next tier. Am I cooked? 👀

frozen solar
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hello i am here for the doomening

shadow cloak
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bro boomie is good idk

next wadi
scenic mist
stuck meadow
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well these changes seem like boomie is going to be meh again

shadow cloak
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if you can use your hands youll be fine

cloud plover
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omg hi doomers its me, the shadow priest that got nerfed now!!

autumn raven
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my guild wants 2xboomies kekw

scenic mist
scenic mist
lofty depot
balmy light
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The nerf was needed

gray bluff
lucid olive
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Nerf is old

scenic mist
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this is the true bad news of the day

cloud plover
autumn raven
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so no boomie, no legion remix

scenic mist
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no ghost of the matriarch

topaz jetty
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big nerf boomkin go play cat no chicken

autumn raven
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what else?

cloud plover
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it was such a small nerf to raid but a big one to m+

stuck meadow
lucid olive
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But at least they confirmed the 25x wasn't a bug

lofty depot
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Yea

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Tragic

stuck meadow
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didnt know until i saw wowhead news

frozen solar
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so what is that nerf sounding like? 🙂

autumn raven
scenic mist
lofty depot
celest narwhal
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does anyone know how to log a target dummy

frozen solar
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ah its the old one

hazy storm
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My raid lead is a rat and said I can’t reroll to feral. Stuck on boomie

frozen solar
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gotcha mb

celest narwhal
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I tried my best and failed horribly

lofty depot
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They just blue posted 2/3 that were missing

frozen solar
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its the unnaounced stuff u guys clocked

lofty depot
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And confirmed a non-bugged cap

dire knot
scenic mist
hazy storm
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I’d laugh at that if I could

celest narwhal
ripe slate
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where do i chime in for dooming so devs overbuff us before the tier

celest narwhal
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I just wanna know what im doing wrong in my rotation my spriest

lofty depot
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I'm gonna apply to ur guild and get u benched

scenic mist
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as an owl ? i'm already benched

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but my lock will rise from these ashes

lofty depot
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Ight leveling lock when I get home

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Ur toast bud

dry compass
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holy fuck those tier set changes lmao

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fix the bug, change the scaling, then nerfhammer it into the dirt for good measure

wooden fulcrum
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we in the bin?

night gulch
meager storm
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those changes are like 4 days old

glossy jungle
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dw, class tuning is coming MoonkaCopium

dry compass
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brother this is the class tuning

night gulch
lofty depot
ionic oak
lofty depot
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Can look at pin

final patio
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A hc week would give them time to help with tuning 🙂

eager raft
formal crest
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@lyric stag bald! bob

lyric stag
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no bald

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so much hair

ionic oak
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Lucky

main blade
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Hey guys I'm trying to log into PTR for some testing, and the only available server I get is this one
Does any1 know how I can access other servers, or what did I do wrong to see only this server?

warm briar
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Servers are probably down to deploy the new build

sudden pawn
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i got something u can deploy

warm briar
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And you’re seeing that server as a glitch

lofty depot
lyric stag
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yep welcome back antm

lofty depot
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Gotta go log on and learn to play frost

high cove
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are the boomie set changes a nerf again?

main blade
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I have a friend next to me, who is currently live on PTR servers, logged in

lofty depot
ionic oak
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Just in secret

high cove
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ah i see so no changes basicly

lofty depot
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The EC one is (I think)

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Idk

lofty depot
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Also maybe exit and relog

main blade
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something seems pretty bugged xD

main blade
lofty depot
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Game doesn't want u testing shit

main blade
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they're afraid of me

ionic oak
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Cant have boomkins testing stuff and finding out more issues

lofty depot
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They probably deleted the /2 and posted saying they added it

sonic pelican
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Hey Guys, what is the best way to use Best in slots and House of cards in a Macro?
Chatgpt was suggesting using /cast [shift:mod] hability2: hability1

misty patrol
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Do we have any sims for current ptr bamkin ?

sonic pelican
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Do you know something without shift mod?

lofty depot
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Bis on a separate button

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Using AI then coming to discord to ask is crazy

misty patrol
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Thanks bae

sonic pelican
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well AI is not always updated and not 100% correct some times

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I was testing shift mod yesterday and was not working that’s the reason of my question

lofty depot
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U dont need a shift mod to use items

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U also, just shouldn't macro everything

dense steeple
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you should probably just have them on seperate buttons for ease of brain

dense steeple
sonic pelican
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Saying this because I feel something in your answer that is not for everyone

royal zenith
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give him a solution instead

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cringe oranges

lofty depot
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i could have shift and ctrl binds and not need my mouse

sonic pelican
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Yes probably a protesis instead a Macro would help

royal zenith
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go back to eating onions and collecting mounts soma

dense steeple
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shift modifer, alt modifer, control modifier, shift alt modifier, shift control modifier, alt control modifier

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you can fit like 40 keybinds just with one hand

lofty depot
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but 2 hands do be other things and i dont assume people have disabilities

ionic oak
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How dare you not know their gaming set up situation and tailor fit your answer to give them the proper correct answer specifically just for them

sonic pelican
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Thanks guys really appreciate it 😄 no worries

sour gale
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So does anyone still have any hope left?

royal zenith
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yeah sure why not

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unless you're a WF raider

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then it's joever

lofty depot
trail tangle
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How is keeper of elune doing? I've heard nothing on that

royal zenith
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combining the two hero talents Pogott

trail tangle
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Yee

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But I meant elunes chosen

royal zenith
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yeah it's just worse in terms of numbers, so far

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but that's people feelycrafting

trail tangle
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I don't think I've ever looked at the name of the hero talents, just copy builds

royal zenith
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we'll see when we get actual numbers

trail tangle
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Just trying to determine if I should balance or guardian in raid

lofty depot
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the idea of casting starfire on st should worry u and u should never want it to be good

trail tangle
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Let me enjoy my blue beam of light

lofty depot
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u can enjoy it

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in m+

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also blue beam of light can be taken in kotg

edgy coral
trail tangle
scenic mist
gaunt salmon
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who is going to receive the nerhammer this patch

ebon plover
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ret paladin

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or Hunter

violet hazel
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are the nerfs today as bad as they seem?

lucid olive
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they're from a few days ago just werent announced until now

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and yes we are bad now

nova ocean
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Nice we avoided blizzard actually helping our class in any way whatsoever again

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Amazing how the class with 4 specs gets a line of text at most

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Everytime

wild dune
loud kettle
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Feral stole the line this time my bad guys

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Its like an orange cat brain cell

novel copper
lofty depot
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cant wait for my compensation buffs

obsidian jetty
vital hound
obsidian jetty
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then go post on forums about it

scenic mist
novel copper
loud kettle
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not sure

scenic mist
lofty depot
loud kettle
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it makes us switch hero talents

vital hound
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learn feral

lofty depot
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better off learning mage 🙂

scenic mist
meager storm
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locks getting way too many buffs

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for no reason

lofty depot
loud kettle
meager storm
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they got a lot of buffs last week

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and posted another "we need buffs"

loud kettle
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wildstalker doesnt play the talent they buffed so

meager storm
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and got buffs again

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idk man

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how they do it

novel copper
scenic mist
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isnt dotc basically wildstalker with a bigger bite ?

vital hound
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ion plays warlock

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must be

lofty depot
loud kettle
novel copper
lofty depot
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u can play the game

ebon plover
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be a dps class with lust and be meta

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simple as

novel copper
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If I have lust as solo person w it I just simply forget

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What’s 30% haste anyways

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30%haste won’t solve my gameplay

stone ocean
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We are cooked

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Fried some would say

lucid olive
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its reroll o'clock

nova ocean
stone ocean
scenic mist
stone ocean
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The bosses are telling me no to re rolling but these patch notes are cooked

lucid olive
stone ocean
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Wthelly you were the chosen one

drifting nova
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SuspiciousChicken dagran starts the belt stuff right?

lucid olive
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ye

drifting nova
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why tf does he have nothing

nova ocean
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4 resets to raid but he said weeks and patch lol

drifting nova
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useless npc

lofty depot
ebon plover
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im rerolling evoker looks like unfortunately

nova ocean
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Then y would u say patch

pale swan
lofty depot
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and first week is like w.e.

ebon plover
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nah aug is gonna be good again trust

stone ocean
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Everyone is gonna re rolling then the bosses are gonna be so good for boomie I can see it

ebon plover
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copium

lofty depot
novel copper
meager storm
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just wait till there is some interaction with aug and boomy is perma capping and we are good during amp bosses at least

nova ocean
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These bosses do not look good for us outside of one early boss

meager storm
nova ocean
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Just like undermine

ebon plover
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bro i just got the fire owl too, this season was gonna be so rad

nova ocean
ebon plover
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😭

nova ocean
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We get patch notes in midnight

stone ocean
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For real!

nova ocean
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I blame tettles

ebon plover
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blizzard will walk back the nerfs !!

stone ocean
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I’m prepping a rogue just in case boomie is terrible on some bosses

pale swan
nova ocean
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If we had Kalamazi we would get buffs

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Can we trade them in a draft

ebon plover
pale swan
nova ocean
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No it's a support

ebon plover
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agility healer

lofty depot
stone ocean
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You know what true I saw a tettles video bragging that boomie was good! Confirmed blizzard balance off his videos

pale swan
ebon plover
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could be the move

nova ocean
stone ocean
ebon plover
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time to reroll aff lock !!!

nova ocean
stone ocean
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Can we veto tettles into the feral section !

ebon plover
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yeah !

lofty depot
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should make it your twitter header

nova ocean
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I don't use trash elon shit

stone ocean
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What’s Twitter

pale swan
# lofty depot

he just wanted to play his Destru lock again and did his job to get us nerfed

lofty depot
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thats my expert

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didnt @warcraftdevs tho

lucid olive
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unfortunate

meager storm
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wait

lucid olive
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couldve linked the tweet instead of screenshotting

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gg

meager storm
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they actually made it 25x

nova ocean
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Lol I was wondering wat that meant

meager storm
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JAGAEGJAGE

lofty depot
nova ocean
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I thought they typod

ebon plover
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we are so back

meager storm
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mm hunter tier ig

lofty depot
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well technically it was already 25

meager storm
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ggs

lofty depot
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or 50/2

stone ocean
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Get into the team and fix us

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We need it

nova ocean
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There is no team

ebon plover
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boomy perma benched

nova ocean
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Never was

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Meme

ebon plover
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its so joever

nova ocean
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Boomy still living with the sins of venthry

ebon plover
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ele sham time

pale swan
ebon plover
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i miss ashen hallow

stone ocean
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Play sub rogue and get that feeling but in melee

lofty depot
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should make a meme with the ceo cheater gif and us with doing damage

ebon plover
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kek

lofty depot
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play sub rogue and quit game next tier

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true

ebon plover
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im on it chief

lofty depot
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then use the girl on the left as warlocks laughing at us

scenic mist
stone ocean
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Here me out guys I have an idea

scenic mist
lofty depot
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this is important

stone ocean
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We make a post on the forums, boomie is perfect no problems here, BANG they buff us it’s reverse psychology

lofty depot
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this is gonna be a next lebel gif

stone ocean
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We should AI it

lofty depot
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thats not allowed

stone ocean
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Wthelly

ebon plover
lofty depot
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wtf

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just like our dev :/

ebon plover
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lmfao

meager storm
scenic mist
stone ocean
smoky relic
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So how bad is the changes to tier 😬

digital berry
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it doesnt matter

smoky relic
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Has anyone ran the napkin math yet

digital berry
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season is not live

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no need to doom untill raid is live

lofty depot
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ight were so ready

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ill be back in an hour

digital berry
dense steeple
smoky relic
ionic oak
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Lol the office gonna be lit when they go back in

lucid olive
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i thought the office wasn't on the air anymore

quartz kernel
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does the 2 set elune chosen starsurge procc goldrinn?

lucid olive
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yes

lofty depot
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ok

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this is a master piece

frank ridge
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does anyone knows the instance where surge does the most damage? Im learning balance and following everything the compendium says but just raided with another druid and his starsurge was hitting for 7mi while mine only 4mi max, was about a 10 ilvl difference

lofty depot
frank ridge
dense steeple
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how the fuck

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do i generate rage on war

lofty depot
dense steeple
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as prot

lofty depot
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get hit

delicate perch
lucid olive
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no way to know for sure without seeing the log

formal crest
lofty depot
formal crest
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<

lofty depot
frank ridge
lofty depot
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that was hard work right there

frank ridge
formal crest
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ty for your hard work

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it is noted

lofty depot
lofty depot
pale swan
lofty depot
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there are plenty of famous us bamkins

pale swan
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real

dense steeple
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yeah

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like somaloria

meager storm
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hpal

sage aspen
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how are new tuning changes imacting Balance Druid DPS?

lofty depot
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they were already in ptr, just a blue post update

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can read the pin for clarity

sage aspen
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thanks

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not too bad

lofty depot
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oh its bad

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but those were already there so new feeling is 0 difference

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was like a 45% surge/tier nerf

lucid olive
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we are turbo bad

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but now i start getting videos on my instagram feed of how OP we are

lofty depot
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think like 5m no other buffs i can do like 3.5m

lucid olive
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of clips from last week

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so the casuals public opinion will be that we are broken cause they dont know

lofty depot
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maybe u should make some content to override that content

lucid olive
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yeah should make video where i turbo game and do tank dam

stone ocean
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Just put up videos of tettles saying we are terrible blizzard will soon listen

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It’s upsetting that a 99 log for a balance Druid is a 50% log for a dev evoker

lofty depot
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the mage wasnt doing damage, but he was blasting

stone ocean
pale swan
wild dune
#

idk

lucid olive
wild dune
pale swan
#

xd

lofty depot
wild dune
#

he was playing keeper

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

that was us with the bug

strange edge
lofty depot
#

well yea, hunter is busted

strange edge
#

One day we will burst

lofty depot
pale swan
lofty depot
#

did u not see

strange edge
#

Maybe

lofty depot
pale swan
#

that's nothing

wild dune
#

wow instead of bursting 70mil on first pull gambit theyll burst 63

#

!!

lofty depot
#

10% of 1billion still rounds up to 1billion

#

cry about it

strange edge
#

Absolutely

orchid roost
#

Only naguura can save us

obsidian jetty
# frank ridge 10 ilvl going to double my damage?

there's alot of multipliers. There is some rng to getting a crit with the most buffs up. I've hit a 10mil surge on retail. We have mastery proc from Best in slots, vers proc from belt, helmet enchant proc, embel up or not, etc. There is alot of things you ideally want lined up in your CA with trees, with potion, with max eclipse scaled (21%, with both ecl 46.41% dmg amp.) But also as others said, iL makes a difference and playing well.

crude seal
#

@scenic mist bozo you will play aug 😂

dusty bluff
#

Is it still looking like elune for keys/kotg for raid in the PTR?

worldly spruce
dense gust
#

Dude why are locks getting 50% buffs for the 8th patch in a row

calm ibex
#

They’re blizzards favorite

#

Since mop

lofty depot
dense steeple
#

LMAO

vapid anvil
#

whats the speel id for PS and where could I find it? I cant locate it on wowhead

karmic root
#

Does anyone have a build for ptr?

lofty depot
karmic root
#

mplus

lofty depot
#

u can copy the ones in compendium

karmic root
#

I dont see them

lofty depot
#

blind or

lofty depot
#

click the arrow

karmic root
#

should i use keeper or ec then

vapid anvil
lofty depot
#

test them out

lofty depot
vapid anvil
#

Yeah I need to track when its on me so was makinga Wa for it

tawny nest
#

was curious, what classes/specs do you guys usually swap to when boomy isnt doing too hot. I feel like warlock is usually the go to

lofty depot
wild dune
#

resto garf

leaden birch
#

make boomkin great again

sour rampart
#

I am going to clarify this to say if there is a way I will update it, because right now there isn't

#

also @vital hound

vital hound
#

yea fkn thought so

#

puppy was gaslighting me

karmic root
#

Does anyone have a weakaura for the tier set?

lofty depot
#

its in there

delicate perch
#

Weakauras are getting deleted do not rely on them

delicate perch
vital hound
delicate perch
#

Nah TFT is chill, can probably put it on 2nd monitor while doing weekly keys for vault

vital hound
#

you mean p*shin 10s?

lofty depot
delicate perch
vital hound
#

lock tf in

#

we're feral now

delicate perch
#

Pause

cloud plover
rain hinge
#

Wait did druid take another nerf today? I t hought it was two piece a few days ago

lofty depot
#

did confirm the 50x spell power /2 was accurate :/

cloud citrus
#

xd

static blade
#

Has Elune's Chosen not been preforming well in PTR for M+?

lofty depot
#

most people were playing keeper

#

neither are particularly amazing right now, and not having the current tier set which increases starfall damage by 20%, cant wait for the aura buff

crisp scaffold
#

They gonna buff like moonkin dots/wrath/starsurge/starfire/starfall by 3% and call it a day

meager storm
#

holy maxwin

#

boomy nerfs did this to me

jaunty blaze
#

Its truly over...

autumn raven
#

another day being sad, gm fam

twin lotus
#

doomie

quiet drift
meager storm
#

i got 4 kitasans in 3 10xs

noble spindle
quiet drift
#

what

#

the

#

fuck

#

World is not fair

meager storm
#

i was making new accoutns for like 2 hours

#

till it hit

noble spindle
#

Oh u rerolled

quiet drift
#

oh

meager storm
#

hell ye

quiet drift
#

still kinda lucky

#

have seen some

#

demonic hours

#

people multi boxxing

#

5-10x

noble spindle
#

Whatever man

#

Im at 2lb kitasan

#

Good enough

noble spindle
#

🙂

meager storm
noble spindle
#

(give me friend points)

royal zenith
#

fiends

noble spindle
#

hi deux

royal zenith
noble spindle
#

boomkin doom so i became a horse trainer

royal zenith
#

I think that's fair yea

haughty sluice
#

Wtf they acknowledge that mage had overpowered tier bonus, nerf it and put power back into base abilities. Balance had overpowered set bonus but they just nuke it without any compensation.

meager storm
#

welcome to our life

royal zenith
#

we need to riot

#

take it to the streets

noble spindle
#

they wont listen

royal zenith
#

completely joever

noble spindle
#

too much boomkin propaganda

meager storm
#

there is still 1 class tuning next week

#

right guys

noble spindle
#

our voice cannot be heard

royal zenith
#

yeah by other classes!!

meager storm
noble spindle
#

so instead i'll raise my horses

#

to be the greatest there ever were

haughty sluice
#

I mean they will just aura buff us back to bottom DPS over the course of the first five weeks of the patch with like 3% aura buff per week or so

#

As is tradition

noble spindle
#

cope

zealous zenith
#

Are we looking REAL bad or just not S tier?

jade flume
#

Dont worry bois, bamkin is not that bad(reroll while you can this is your last chance)

noble spindle
#

boomkin flew too close to the sun

#

(again)

#

in ptr

#

(again)

#

and got nuked to the ground

#

(again)

royal zenith
#

but we got nerfed hard

#

always depends on other classes how bad or good we really are

noble spindle
#

when will boomkins learn to sandbag like the warlocks next door

royal zenith
#

and they also got nerfed

#

-12% for FDK amongst other things

zealous zenith
#

But we were sooo OP in ptr. Hopefully it’s just normal nerd to even it out D:

royal zenith
#

don't think you will end up OP

zealous zenith
#

No no we were in PTR

#

welp. Time shall tell I guess

serene thunder
#

Guess we're back to playing EC in m+ after the nerfs?

royal zenith
jade flume
#

I for certain dont know though

royal zenith
dire osprey
#

time to whip out the warlock

astral sleet
#

It’s so over or we’re so back!

warped stratus
#

We doing less damage than tanks 😭😭😭

#

Rerolling to most brokan class

#

Hunter 😎

vale pebble
warped stratus
#

Ok, rerolling to other most brokan class

vale pebble
#

rerol warlok

warped stratus
#

Yikes

vale pebble
#

buff 500%

warped stratus
#

Don’t play warlock since pandaria

vale pebble
#

good time play now

#

warlok 500%

warped stratus
#

Nah man.. I’ll play boomkin, I’ll do 100 parses 😎

vale pebble
#

u cant do 100 pars if im already 100 pars

warped stratus
#

You Will do 99

vale pebble
#

nono

#

me do 100

warped stratus
#

I’ll play mage

vale pebble
#

101

warped stratus
#

Brokan

vale pebble
#

brokn

#

mag pyrobalas

warped stratus
#

Rogue brokan aswell

vale pebble
#

300% buff

warped stratus
#

Stealth + garrote + mutilate easy

vale pebble
#

u play rog 100

#

me play balance 100

#

🤝

unkempt lantern
#

Just a quick question, on a scale from 1-10 how fucked are we now?

royal zenith
#

unkempt lantern
#

oh

crisp scaffold
#

For example if this patch u would get invited in any key right now u wouldnt

unkempt lantern
#

welp time to go into retirement Ig

royal zenith
#

you won't get invited first weeks anyway

#

unless you got giga ilvl

#

and 4set

crisp scaffold
#

😃

vale pebble
#

😸

dusty birch
quiet drift
#

in a state between 10-1

#

Depending on observation

unkempt lantern
warped stratus
#

Dk game play sucks, otherwise I would play it

dire osprey
#

but havent tried yet

twin lotus
#

they're onto us on the reddit

#

@sudden flame stop posting propaganda

quiet drift
#

thanks for the gold kind stranger

twin lotus
#

maybe if we sandbag enough, we can get 20% aura buff

warped stratus
sudden flame
royal zenith
#

never knew you were such a hater

#

pretty sad

sudden flame
#

I wasn't until you all started crying about the nerfs, too much privilege in thinking that boomie deserves to be meta

royal zenith
#

making up scenario's in your head KEKL

#

unfortunate

quiet drift
#

Had nothing to do with the

#

900 gazillion million clips

#

of OMG BAMKIN 200MILLION CRITIAL STRIIIK?!?!

slender dragon
#

if i follow blizzard line, we are not getting any buff until patch is up

#

rip us 😦

sudden flame
#

this is what im talking about

slender dragon
#

imagine blizzard have a month of ptr to makes changes, they can nerf 3% by 3% but they prefer instantly destroy the class xd

slender dragon
#

can't wait fellowship

scarlet tapir
#

cant wait for this game to DIE

#

someone explode blizz servers so they cant financially recover and i can actually go live life

#

ty

pallid bay
#

i empathize with you..

scarlet tapir
#

do u think this is normal behaviour that deserved to be empathized with

pallid bay
scarlet tapir
#

yes

pallid bay
#

good

scarlet tapir
sudden flame
#

hatred and despise for saying things that lack evidence, half the people on here are saying the spec is dogshit are only saying it because they saw tettles underperform in a key

royal zenith
#

this you?

#

smh asking for buffs

#

bit pretentious

frozen solar
#

hey guys would u hold CA at any point if your HoC is coming up soon (like 10-15s)?

royal zenith
#

you will want to line em up ye

#

more value

frozen solar
#

alright thanks

frozen solar
#

awesome thank you

warped stratus
#

No sub until buff

drifting nova
#

SuspiciousChicken where belt

#

am I dumb or is blizzard dumber

waxen verge
#

Hey all, I am new to balance. I was wondering, if I mess up the eclipse, e.g in single target i go to lunar, should I keep using wrath or switch to Starfire?

worldly plume
#

how much in % did we actually get nerf now?

slender quarry
glossy jungle
#

alot%

slender quarry
#

couldnt be me gng💔 🥀

scarlet tapir
#

no but usually my irl commitments always happen in raid days for some reason

#

someones birthday, friends wanting to go out

cloud plover
#

💅🏻

slender quarry
#

wait u supposed to be a shadow

#

i thought

cloud plover
#

I'm yapping in shadow, are u? bozo ah betrayer

slender quarry
#

no way all the time i thought u are a shadow player

cloud plover
#

it's what I play wcyd

slender quarry
#

ahhh

crisp scaffold
crisp scaffold
crisp scaffold
#

Takes too much time to cast

cloud plover
#

that's the good part

waxen verge
crisp scaffold
#

I continue with starfire since yeah ,u are in lunar ,but its a dps loss when u miss solar

obsidian jetty
crisp scaffold
#

Thats why its good to have a wa that tracks your time in eclipse and when u have like 2 seconds left u start casting starfires to get back in solar

cloud plover
#

Just play EC in all content and never worry about eclipses

#

starfire >>>>

waxen verge
#

According to wowhead it is more difficult... But I don't really know why

warped stratus
round field
lucid olive
pallid bay
#

if you enter the wrong eclipse nothing matters anymore

#

its just over

lucid olive
#

that too

#

might as well alt tab until the Eclipse is over

drifting nova
dusty bluff
#

Sit there, casting nothing, until eclipse falls off…. Feel it

drifting nova
#

wonder how many low m+ keys there are

dim yew
#

quick question, is there a way to search, on warcraftlogs or elsewhere, for the highest ranking players using x or y item

#

like if i wanted to see the exact character of someone using the crafted weapon for example

round field
#

Classic

dim yew
obsidian jetty
drifting nova
#

it's joever

cloud plover
heady sentinel
candid dragon
#

how is boomy in ptr after nerf? dead ?

royal zenith
#

yeah, sure

#

we all have rerolled already

signal temple
candid dragon
#

really dead=

lofty depot
#

No compensation buffs is pretty cool

craggy sonnet
#

hey hey, but at least we got the dryad surges back

candid dragon
#

but for keeper and elunes ?

#

this season elune's win

lofty depot
#

No one cares about m+ Dawg

candid dragon
#

and all tier "was setting" with keeper

lofty depot
#

Fotms can reroll to funny new spec, don't care about m+

candid dragon
#

fotms ?

scenic mist
lofty depot
#

My sweet summer child

candid dragon
#

i only ask becouse i play m+ and all "tierlist" was setting on keeper but elune's choosen are good o dead ?

craggy sonnet
#

not compared to the other broken specs right now

#

but for m+ specifically it also only "really matters" after the .5 patch

lofty depot
#
  1. Tier lists are troll
  2. Anyone's opinion on how a spec plays 3 weeks before the patch is to launch shouldn't be taken at all serious
  3. Both specs are beans because the last tier set gave a 20% dam inc to Starfall
#

And yea, m+ "meta" doesn't matter at all until .5 or .7 patch. U can literally reroll at the end and still do title keys. It happens every season

craggy sonnet
#

still sucks if you are relying on lfg and get declined

dense gust
#

blizz givin classes 50% baseline buffs meanwhile they give some 50% buffs via tier sets then takes it away

lofty depot
#

I mean.... It doesn't look like nitro has done a key since june and doesn't do title keys, so u can play w.e. u want in m+

lofty depot
#

Mage privilege, tragic really.

craggy sonnet
#

another mage tier for you?

lofty depot
#

Well I was gonna have to gear it regardless

#

We have 1 mage and he vacations during prog sometimes

#

So gear both play w.e. big chill

dire osprey
fervent merlin
errant flint
#

Whos on druid tier?

scenic mist
errant flint
#

Ty im safe as we have very little of those

jaunty blaze
#

Guess who gets them first

errant flint
#

F mages

lofty depot
#

If they do the same uhh cats charge shit, u'll have 4p week 2 or 3

#

Assuming ur getting 1 piece/token from raid

molten sandal
#

Okay, help me a bit with my napkin math here. Encounter looked at is Sprocketmonger.
( https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/68APzFqvZb31dyG9?fight=20&type=damage-done )

  • I have 104199 Int/Spellpower. 4-Set is therefore capped at 2.604.975 damage.
  • Five CAs in the encounter amounts to 13.024.875 damage stored. *2 for 2 Starsurges buffed: 26.049.750
  • Total damage dealt in the encounter was 841.250.000 -> 4-Set would be a ~3.1% increase.

This disregards procs that increase spelldamage, total encounter damage includes old 4-Set, and assumes I always hit the cap. Additional damage is unaffected by damage increases, I presume?

For 5 targets: SS hits for ~4.360.000 average, which would be 6.964.975 damage per SS, so 13.929.950 per CA, so 69.649.750 total in our example, pushing the 4-Set to 8.27%.

This disregards the fact that we will have much higher total damage on 5 targets, reducing the percentage (~1,63B on Stix -> 4,27%)

errant flint
lofty depot
#

Holy

errant flint
#

Spec spell power math will not be my forte ever.

molten sandal
#

I'm procrastinating, okay?

royal zenith
#

at least it's 69. damage

pallid bay
#

this is where you went wrong

#

stop typing arctic

lofty depot
#

Ok

pallid bay
#

🫡

lofty depot
#

o7

molten sandal
molten sandal
scenic mist
molten sandal
#

Neat

#

Tbh, it's more than I expected when I heard about the 25x cap

#

I'm still mad though

lofty depot
molten sandal
#

Ah, no. I took the average damage over the whole encounter.

lofty depot
#

Whoopsie

molten sandal
#

Only affects the Multitarget number, though.

scenic mist
#

he's telling you to take away the CURRENT tier set bonus added damage

molten sandal
#

Yes.

scenic mist
#

4p gives +20% dam to surge when mushroom dot is on

molten sandal
#

I am not adding Starsurge damage in my calculations for Singletarget. I'm only looking at the added damage from the 4-Set

scenic mist
molten sandal
#

In Singletarget, a Starsurge is only a flat number added. In Multitarget, Starsurge splashes

#

So in ST, I can disregard the base damage of SS and can only look at the benefit from the bonus.

There is a slight inaccuracy in the percentage, though, that's true, because it takes the total encounter damage, which does include the current 4-Set, but I've already noted that.

scenic mist
#

your calculations are way off
you are just adding the "unbuffed" full stored 4p damage to the already buffed (as in eclipses, procs, harmony, ...) starsurge

you need to add 4p damage to base starsurge and then run every multiplier

#

but be mindful of not using the 20% current 4p multiplier when doing so

#

then you'll get a good image of the full 4p buffed surge damage

#

which is obviously higher than the current surge+2.6M you calculated (meaning surge would be like what, 15M total ? when we clearly can go up to 60M)

#

#balance message when Dsune said this, he didnt underline how much of an impact this oversight caused

#

but it's absolutly massive

candid dragon
#

any calculated base on elunes chosen?

dusty bluff
#

So the nerf was really only massive in relation to the batshit broken way the tier was acting before, right? Is it that devastating in the grand scheme of things?

scenic mist
#

set was like 70% of our damage and was basically cut in half

pallid bay
#

did some calculations earlier based on a single sim
Celestial Alignment #1: 2.452s -> 12.452s
Intellect: 143083
Average Starsurge: 5,720,674
Estimated Dryad Damage: 12,477,254
Buffed Starsurge Damage (2): 44,362,330
Damage Cap: 119,236,390
Total Damage in Dryad window: 141,979,906

Celestial Alignment #2: 35.002s -> 45.002s
Intellect: 115851
Average Starsurge: 4,969,707
Estimated Dryad Damage: 10,839,333
Buffed Starsurge Damage (2): 25,303,202
Damage Cap: 96,542,528
Total Damage in Dryad window: 75,322,370

Celestial Alignment #3: 124.263s -> 134.263s
Intellect: 155341
Average Starsurge: 5,856,336
Estimated Dryad Damage: 12,773,143
Buffed Starsurge Damage (2): 40,281,733
Damage Cap: 129,451,426
Total Damage in Dryad window: 125,860,179

Celestial Alignment #4: 257.705s -> 267.705s
Intellect: 161469
Average Starsurge: 4,879,395
Estimated Dryad Damage: 10,642,357
Buffed Starsurge Damage (2): 55,269,928
Damage Cap: 134,558,130
Total Damage in Dryad window: 97,367,169

Estimated DPS
Base DPS: 3,722,995
Estimated Damage: 211,949,279
DPS with Dryad: 4,429,493

molten sandal
# scenic mist but it's absolutly massive

Damage increases would amount to... 68%?
10% Moonkin Form
30% Inc
5% Starlight Conduit
5% Circle of the Heavens
6% Nurturing Instinct
6% Harmony of the Heavens
6% Waning Twilight

dusty bluff
#

Damn, so are we actually now undertuned compared to the median now?