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What that mean
BALANCE > FERAL anyways
U just do the quests and it finishes generally when u hit 80
Idk if they removed the requirements to get to places yet
tbf the game is still very begginer unfriendly
Ull likely have to do the undermine shit
How do yall feel about retail vs classic
it's like burger vs pizza
why not love both ?
Agreed
I’m coming from EQ p99 blue where we have been time locked in the first 3 expansions since 2010
I want to see new content with developers and a real community
P99 blue is just all of us older snarky people, gate keeping content bs etc
Surprised the community here has been somewhat receptive, I’m a noob again
i mean idk, i feel like community is always nice to ppl coming politely and being genuine
why gatekeep when helping you could make you our next teammate ?

well for developpers you might wanna try another class, say priest or mages 
we are the runt of the litter
dudes do you still have to stand on melee when convoking?
anyone know if ptr is back up
Kek
He's lucky I didn't roll a dice
We haven't had to do that no
you did on shadowlands, on ranged it casted regrowths, if anything was in melee range it casted thrash or whatever
Should I have said we haven't had to this expansion?
yeah better, thanks
still does but you only play voke in kotg and in kotg regrowths make you build towards a boosted instant builder, so the value equals out with a random thrash
luckily there is always wholesome Gamz
That guy is toxic, what u mean

sounds good, thanks
PTR changes are up
why can i not find the post
upd: ignore guardian segment
they just blue posted the changes they made on the 14th
aoo nothing exciting
because they do it ass backwards and you have to search at the bottom
why bother, they are going to nerf the shit out of druids anyway, as per usual
Kotg notes are already in just weren't blue posted before
Also confirms the 50 spell power /2
Tragic
strange they didnt adress the splash damage reduction tho
Chat is it dooming time
Changes were already on ptr, so doesn't matter
yeah but as they did that 3 days ago one could believe next patch would come with aura buff or something, not...nothing
with these changes, will my guild be able to participate in the race to world first or is me playing moonkin going to hold them back?
Dunno, few weeks left
Yes, swap now
damn it!
no changes from 3 days ago build
Yeah ur cooked buddy
Get ready to learn feral
Deux getting trolled by froyo, smh
noooo 
not that I'm hopeful, just no point in thinking this is the end
nah froyo is gucci
you're unaware arctic
but that's okay!!
I'm aware
it's the same as thinking it's the end of tuning days 2 weeks ago
sounds like something Samsagace Gamegie would say
One more tuning I believe
I want balance to be ever so slightly over mid. They can die for M+ tbh
Well there will be more than 1
SP took wuite a big hit tbh
exactly
So did fdk
balance is still undertuned tho right?
undertuned for what
Yes spec sucks ass
That sounds a lot like balance druid
Mages took somewhat hit too
Can i please be buffed
correct me if im wrong but these nerfs are like 97% around m+?
What nerfs
was it tettles
the 45s>15s duration

The kotg are already live
ye ye i know but the duration
theres plenty of damage amps in raid
This is just the time you have to send out the starsurges no?
that youd abuse the duration for
But not as long away from the next pack
Tbh we are probably kind of fine, this season we are worse off no?
For raid that is
No Im talking current season
in M+ it's pretty bad
We weren't the top of log anyway and we got a like 44% nerf on surge.
they are talking s2
Looking at the testing and taking 2min pull is worthless
learn to read
don't think we're that bad this tier in raid
imma get u
just not Devoker
pretty sure the log analysis doc was only 240s+
and balance was way closer to the top than bottom or even middle
s2 ST damage is actually pretty ok, the only issue we have is we cant cleave right
either we ST or we aoe, but by doing one we strictly kill our hopes of doing the other
(purely analysing ptr raid testing logs)
guess damage pattern is also just mid
we took like a 50% nerf between raid testing and now tho
I think nerf happened after mythic testing
thats a wild number knowing it was a 5% to 3% nerf
read pin
and it was only one part of the tier set
dmg wise bomkin is kind of bottom atm
ok didnt know about the damage cap
according to logs that is
That nerf is like a 45% nerf
you really need to be way more specific
- the duration of favor buff being nerfed prevents us from floating the buff over 3 incarns and hurts a lot
to what
cause on stix you're topping damage
Surge/tier damage
how does the raid have bugged trash 3months later
Imagine they buff balance again next week
for everything - after the tier set gut - balance is like 10% lower than most classes
We need u Mr deux
its over guys
guys, boomkins dead 💔 its time for everyone to reroll ret paladin
Another L for chickens
I prefeer to cancel my sub
Are we up or are we down
nerf for boomkin suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Very smol numby
Anyone hoping that this D team was going to keep boomkin competitive was drinking some spiked hopium
Thanks
no changes
Sick
I haven’t been in this channel for awhile I just wanted a general vibe on boomies now a days
vibes are down i'm not gonna lie
F tier raid, B tier m+
we are fried chickens now
Hope your guild has a comfy bench
we've been for the last 3 days already
You can still reroll shadow priest
Remember to reapply dots in Tigers Fury
Ok well tell my raid lead to get off shadow priest
zQELKIUJRB HVAOP¨ZBJ Ä3 N
And with Bloodtalons up
u will NOT get world first if you play moonkin
I understand now.
and ur guild will lose 50 ranks
Tell him shadow priest is too difficult to combine with leading a raid. Suggest boomkin to him
maybe we can shine a bit on some AOE bosses on raid kekw
aha yeah like... what boss again ?

all we can do now is 
I’m glad Blizzard made my decision whether I was going to play S3 seriously for me and got it out of the way before it went live
My guild wants me to play boomie next tier. Am I cooked? 👀
hello i am here for the doomening
bro boomie is good idk
more like ... doomie
if your guild is below wr100 you're fine
well these changes seem like boomie is going to be meh again
if you can use your hands youll be fine
omg hi doomers its me, the shadow priest that got nerfed now!!
my guild wants 2xboomies kekw
oh no so sad nerfed from being god to being excellent
changes have been up for 3 days already tho
If they would like to speak to customer service, we're available
The nerf was needed
Do you guys have any support for people who take long walks off short piers?
Nerf is old
this is the true bad news of the day
Us no, sorry
crazy isnt it
so no boomie, no legion remix
no ghost of the matriarch
big nerf boomkin go play cat no chicken
what else?
it was such a small nerf to raid but a big one to m+
wasnt able to play ptr the past week just got home from a trip
But at least they confirmed the 25x wasn't a bug
yeay
didnt know until i saw wowhead news
so what is that nerf sounding like? 🙂
nerf is old
Well it's pinned and was tested from previous build
does anyone know how to log a target dummy
ah its the old one
My raid lead is a rat and said I can’t reroll to feral. Stuck on boomie
gotcha mb
I tried my best and failed horribly
They just blue posted 2/3 that were missing
its the unnaounced stuff u guys clocked
And confirmed a non-bugged cap
basically just called you stupid
just have Arctic log on his char, he's a dummy
I’d laugh at that if I could
bruh
where do i chime in for dooming so devs overbuff us before the tier
I just wanna know what im doing wrong in my rotation my spriest
Ight bud
I'm gonna apply to ur guild and get u benched
holy fuck those tier set changes lmao
fix the bug, change the scaling, then nerfhammer it into the dirt for good measure
we in the bin?
never left
dw, class tuning is coming 
brother this is the class tuning
i need some of what you're huffing
They're still days old
Catch up
Can look at pin
A hc week would give them time to help with tuning 🙂
🫵 😂
@lyric stag bald! 
Lucky
Hey guys I'm trying to log into PTR for some testing, and the only available server I get is this one
Does any1 know how I can access other servers, or what did I do wrong to see only this server?
Servers are probably down to deploy the new build
i got something u can deploy
And you’re seeing that server as a glitch
Tarisantm loading up again
yep welcome back antm
Gotta go log on and learn to play frost
are the boomie set changes a nerf again?
I have a friend next to me, who is currently live on PTR servers, logged in
They were already on ptr
Just in secret
ah i see so no changes basicly
Did u click xptr
Also maybe exit and relog
now I opened current patch (11.1.7), while PTR was also open, and I get the current live servers list
something seems pretty bugged xD
exited, reloged, repaired, updated, restarted pc, tried everything 😄
Game doesn't want u testing shit
they're afraid of me
Cant have boomkins testing stuff and finding out more issues
Hey Guys, what is the best way to use Best in slots and House of cards in a Macro?
Chatgpt was suggesting using /cast [shift:mod] hability2: hability1
Do we have any sims for current ptr bamkin ?
Do you know something without shift mod?
Can macro hoc to ca
Bis on a separate button
Using AI then coming to discord to ask is crazy
No
Thanks bae
well AI is not always updated and not 100% correct some times
I was testing shift mod yesterday and was not working that’s the reason of my question
you should probably just have them on seperate buttons for ease of brain
which is why you should never trust ai
Thanks for your time, don’t asume all the people have 20 buttons on their mouse or two hands to play man
Saying this because I feel something in your answer that is not for everyone
might I suggest https://www.amazon.com/Azeron-Cyborg-Gaming-Keypad-Programmable/dp/B0B3YB78JR/ref=asc_df_B0B3YB78JR?mcid=93dc85a12cbc35168fc46462cf247626&hvocijid=15210352082584902142-B0B3YB78JR-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15210352082584902142&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015251&hvtargid=pla-2281435178298&th=1 if that is a problem for you
i could have shift and ctrl binds and not need my mouse
Yes probably a protesis instead a Macro would help
go back to eating onions and collecting mounts soma
shift modifer, alt modifer, control modifier, shift alt modifier, shift control modifier, alt control modifier
you can fit like 40 keybinds just with one hand
but 2 hands do be other things and i dont assume people have disabilities
How dare you not know their gaming set up situation and tailor fit your answer to give them the proper correct answer specifically just for them
Thanks guys really appreciate it 😄 no worries
So does anyone still have any hope left?
4 weeks of hope
How is keeper of elune doing? I've heard nothing on that
combining the two hero talents 
I don't think I've ever looked at the name of the hero talents, just copy builds
we'll see when we get actual numbers
Just trying to determine if I should balance or guardian in raid
the idea of casting starfire on st should worry u and u should never want it to be good
Let me enjoy my blue beam of light
probably guardian if you're a dps slot tbh
True, I can get out some big rips in druid of the claw
makes us better at cleaving tho, that's nice
who is going to receive the nerhammer this patch
are the nerfs today as bad as they seem?
Nice we avoided blizzard actually helping our class in any way whatsoever again
Amazing how the class with 4 specs gets a line of text at most
Everytime

Define bad
cant wait for my compensation buffs
think of the worst thing you can, that.
you're potentially gonna do more damage as a guardian druid
then go post on forums about it
where does this put you guys ?
So what now, spin the wheel and reroll angle
not sure
pray for aura buff
4 weeks til patch
it makes us switch hero talents
learn feral
better off learning mage 🙂
so dotc in ST ?
told tettles to do what kalamazi does
Yea
wildstalker doesnt play the talent they buffed so
I just roll meta like a disgusting slave
isnt dotc basically wildstalker with a bigger bite ?
u could play mage and be meta every tier
Yea the trees are pretty passive, they just shift where dmg comes from which can alter builds a bit
Well, I want to actually play the game and not have utility’s of 6 classes and batshit damage at the same time
u can play the game
If I have lust as solo person w it I just simply forget
What’s 30% haste anyways
30%haste won’t solve my gameplay
its reroll o'clock
2 and a half it's August 5th
What you re rolling to if you say feral I’m gonna crash out
4 reset before raid
The bosses are telling me no to re rolling but these patch notes are cooked
ok i won't say that then
Wthelly you were the chosen one
dagran starts the belt stuff right?
ye
why tf does he have nothing
4 resets to raid but he said weeks and patch lol
useless npc
theres no raid aug 5
im rerolling evoker looks like unfortunately
Then y would u say patch
it's dead as well
and first week is like w.e.
nah aug is gonna be good again trust
Everyone is gonna re rolling then the bosses are gonna be so good for boomie I can see it
copium
4 weeks til they patch my damage
I want whatever you are smoking
just wait till there is some interaction with aug and boomy is perma capping and we are good during amp bosses at least
These bosses do not look good for us outside of one early boss

Just like undermine
bro i just got the fire owl too, this season was gonna be so rad
Cope
😭
We get patch notes in midnight
For real!
I blame tettles
blizzard will walk back the nerfs !!
I’m prepping a rogue just in case boomie is terrible on some bosses
im playing that range dh spec in midnight f boomy
you mean the healer spec ?
lmao
No it's a support
agility healer
yea, the change from 70% to 30% for dryad then ur like wow it does 2.5% of my damage so cool
You know what true I saw a tettles video bragging that boomie was good! Confirmed blizzard balance off his videos
let me heal you with fel yes
The problem was blizzard was to stupid to realize it only did damage with the buff so they nerfed it and fixed it instead of fixing it first to see wat the fuck the tier set actually did lol
He jinxed us!
time to reroll aff lock !!!
I need to make that my pfp
Can we veto tettles into the feral section !
yeah !
should make it your twitter header
I don't use trash elon shit
What’s Twitter
he just wanted to play his Destru lock again and did his job to get us nerfed
unfortunate
wait
they actually made it 25x
Lol I was wondering wat that meant
JAGAEGJAGE
yes
I thought they typod
we are so back
mm hunter tier ig
well technically it was already 25
ggs
or 50/2
Can you tune balance
Get into the team and fix us
We need it
There is no team
boomy perma benched
its so joever
Boomy still living with the sins of venthry
ele sham time
i miss opening for gazilion dmg
i miss ashen hallow
Play sub rogue and get that feeling but in melee
should make a meme with the ceo cheater gif and us with doing damage
kek
im on it chief
then use the girl on the left as warlocks laughing at us
cant beat this og screenshot
Here me out guys I have an idea
We make a post on the forums, boomie is perfect no problems here, BANG they buff us it’s reverse psychology
this is gonna be a next lebel gif
We should AI it
thats not allowed
Wthelly
i gave up its too hard :3
lmfao
So how bad is the changes to tier 😬
it doesnt matter
Has anyone ran the napkin math yet
LMAO
napkin math says doom and reroll
Perfect
Lol the office gonna be lit when they go back in
i thought the office wasn't on the air anymore
does the 2 set elune chosen starsurge procc goldrinn?
yes
does anyone knows the instance where surge does the most damage? Im learning balance and following everything the compendium says but just raided with another druid and his starsurge was hitting for 7mi while mine only 4mi max, was about a 10 ilvl difference
insane
10 ilvl going to double my damage?
gear, using it correctly in cds, sending incorrectly in eclipse
as prot
get hit
I mean link the log but 10 ilvls is a large amount, surge is also not 100% of your damage is 7 is not double 4
he prob played better + higher ilvl
no way to know for sure without seeing the log
?
<
@formal crest there u go
unf I dont have the log but if I see this instance again ill upload it
that was hard work right there
is there a way to incorrectly send starsurge on eclipse? do I need to wait for something?
at the end of it when u should be pooling for your next one
now i need a famous boomkin to tweet that out
at this hour should be US
there are plenty of famous us bamkins
real
https://www.twitch.tv/dwilkz
(Mists of Tirna Scithe 1st boss)
i miss it so much
how are new tuning changes imacting Balance Druid DPS?
oh its bad
but those were already there so new feeling is 0 difference
was like a 45% surge/tier nerf
we are turbo bad
but now i start getting videos on my instagram feed of how OP we are
think like 5m no other buffs i can do like 3.5m
of clips from last week
so the casuals public opinion will be that we are broken cause they dont know
maybe u should make some content to override that content
yeah should make video where i turbo game and do tank dam
Just put up videos of tettles saying we are terrible blizzard will soon listen
It’s upsetting that a 99 log for a balance Druid is a 50% log for a dev evoker
is it tho
tettles was blasting earlier
the mage wasnt doing damage, but he was blasting
Yes
was he playing EC or trees ?
wildstalker

xd
idk, i was on my phone
he was playing keeper
rate the james randal fit
that was us with the bug
He had one good one I saw then the next one got smoked by the MM
well yea, hunter is busted
One day we will burst
and i have hunters dooming for 10% nerf lol
did u not see
Maybe
yea fuck them tho
that's nothing
Absolutely
Only naguura can save us
there's alot of multipliers. There is some rng to getting a crit with the most buffs up. I've hit a 10mil surge on retail. We have mastery proc from Best in slots, vers proc from belt, helmet enchant proc, embel up or not, etc. There is alot of things you ideally want lined up in your CA with trees, with potion, with max eclipse scaled (21%, with both ecl 46.41% dmg amp.) But also as others said, iL makes a difference and playing well.
@scenic mist bozo you will play aug 😂
Is it still looking like elune for keys/kotg for raid in the PTR?
probably
we miss you stellar drift 
Dude why are locks getting 50% buffs for the 8th patch in a row
Here u go
LMAO
whats the speel id for PS and where could I find it? I cant locate it on wowhead
Does anyone have a build for ptr?
for what
mplus
u can copy the ones in compendium
I dont see them
blind or
whats ps
should i use keeper or ec then
Pain sep. its a priest external I figured it out
was making sure it was pain sup cuz like thats not my spell
Yeah I need to track when its on me so was makinga Wa for it
was curious, what classes/specs do you guys usually swap to when boomy isnt doing too hot. I feel like warlock is usually the go to
mage, evoker, lock. But tbf most of the time u dont need to swap
resto 
hearthstone usually
or tft
make boomkin great again
I am going to clarify this to say if there is a way I will update it, because right now there isn't
also @vital hound
Does anyone have a weakaura for the tier set?
Weakauras are getting deleted do not rely on them
New set soontm
terrible timing
Nah TFT is chill, can probably put it on 2nd monitor while doing weekly keys for vault
you mean p*shin 10s?
thats a next year problem
Insane content tbh maybe not, need to focus up
Pause
gaslighting doesn't exist..
Wait did druid take another nerf today? I t hought it was two piece a few days ago
no, those are the same nerfs from 2 days ago just blue posted cuz they forgot
did confirm the 50x spell power /2 was accurate :/
xd
Has Elune's Chosen not been preforming well in PTR for M+?
most people were playing keeper
neither are particularly amazing right now, and not having the current tier set which increases starfall damage by 20%, cant wait for the aura buff
They gonna buff like moonkin dots/wrath/starsurge/starfire/starfall by 3% and call it a day
Its truly over...
another day being sad, gm fam
doomie
????
Would you kindly fuck off
Oh u rerolled
oh
hell ye
i have a 6* speed 3* power oguri borrow if u need one
🙂

(give me friend points)
fiends
hi deux

boomkin doom so i became a horse trainer
I think that's fair yea
Wtf they acknowledge that mage had overpowered tier bonus, nerf it and put power back into base abilities. Balance had overpowered set bonus but they just nuke it without any compensation.
welcome to our life
they wont listen
completely joever
too much boomkin propaganda
our voice cannot be heard
yeah by other classes!!

I mean they will just aura buff us back to bottom DPS over the course of the first five weeks of the patch with like 3% aura buff per week or so
As is tradition
cope
Are we looking REAL bad or just not S tier?
Dont worry bois, bamkin is not that bad(reroll while you can this is your last chance)
boomkin flew too close to the sun
(again)
in ptr
(again)
and got nuked to the ground
(again)
nobody really knows
but we got nerfed hard
always depends on other classes how bad or good we really are
when will boomkins learn to sandbag like the warlocks next door
But we were sooo OP in ptr. Hopefully it’s just normal nerd to even it out D:
don't think you will end up OP
Guess we're back to playing EC in m+ after the nerfs?
also nobody knows for certain
I for certain dont know though

It’s so over or we’re so back!
Ok, rerolling to other most brokan class
rerol warlok
Yikes
Don’t play warlock since pandaria
Nah man.. I’ll play boomkin, I’ll do 100 parses 😎
You Will do 99
I’ll play mage
101
Brokan
Rogue brokan aswell
300% buff
Stealth + garrote + mutilate easy
Just a quick question, on a scale from 1-10 how fucked are we now?
∞
oh
For example if this patch u would get invited in any key right now u wouldnt
welp time to go into retirement Ig
😃
😸

11.5
sounds like its gonna be a fun season 
Reroll bro.. play mage, they Will never make mage suck
Dk game play sucks, otherwise I would play it
looks dece with the frost rework tbf
but havent tried yet
thanks for the gold kind stranger
maybe if we sandbag enough, we can get 20% aura buff
Not hard to play.. tons of damage
boomies deserved the nerfed and need to be humbled

I wasn't until you all started crying about the nerfs, too much privilege in thinking that boomie deserves to be meta
Had nothing to do with the
900 gazillion million clips
of OMG BAMKIN 200MILLION CRITIAL STRIIIK?!?!
mad cause bad cat
if i follow blizzard line, we are not getting any buff until patch is up
rip us 😦
this is what im talking about
imagine blizzard have a month of ptr to makes changes, they can nerf 3% by 3% but they prefer instantly destroy the class xd
sybau
can't wait fellowship
cant wait for this game to DIE
someone explode blizz servers so they cant financially recover and i can actually go live life
ty
you're just a silly lil cat filled with hatred and despise cause your spec consistently stinks
i empathize with you..
do you think you should be institutionalized based on the tiktoks you share with people?
yes
good

hatred and despise for saying things that lack evidence, half the people on here are saying the spec is dogshit are only saying it because they saw tettles underperform in a key
hey guys would u hold CA at any point if your HoC is coming up soon (like 10-15s)?
alright thanks
always
awesome thank you
No sub until buff
Hey all, I am new to balance. I was wondering, if I mess up the eclipse, e.g in single target i go to lunar, should I keep using wrath or switch to Starfire?
how much in % did we actually get nerf now?
so u let this game take over your rl ? crazy bro
alot%
couldnt be me gng💔 🥀
no but usually my irl commitments always happen in raid days for some reason
someones birthday, friends wanting to go out
Stop following me😭
wait u supposed to be a shadow
i thought
it's what I play wcyd
ahhh
Usually when I do that I die inside ,I continue with wrath and ignore what I did ,but at the end I still die inside and go to sleep crying
40% at least
why do u hate starfire
Takes too much time to cast
that's the good part
Besides dieing inside (which is the correct move) DPS wise which is better?
I continue with starfire since yeah ,u are in lunar ,but its a dps loss when u miss solar
You cast starfire if you get stuck in lunar on ST
Thats why its good to have a wa that tracks your time in eclipse and when u have like 2 seconds left u start casting starfires to get back in solar
According to wowhead it is more difficult... But I don't really know why
Blizzard taking power from boomkins https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdaLkJ2o/
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But expert says wrath...
ye Wrath got buffed by 30% halfway into the tier

Sit there, casting nothing, until eclipse falls off…. Feel it
wonder how many low m+ keys there are
quick question, is there a way to search, on warcraftlogs or elsewhere, for the highest ranking players using x or y item
like if i wanted to see the exact character of someone using the crafted weapon for example
Recrackie spreading misinformation
Classic
thank you, didnt know that was a thing
gg
it's joever
nice
POV of boomy at S3
how is boomy in ptr after nerf? dead ?
What dungeon tho, it happens
really dead=
When ur surge damage gets nerfed by like 50%, yea it doesn't feel good
No compensation buffs is pretty cool
hey hey, but at least we got the dryad surges back
No one cares about m+ Dawg
and all tier "was setting" with keeper
Fotms can reroll to funny new spec, don't care about m+
fotms ?
flavor of the month
My sweet summer child
i only ask becouse i play m+ and all "tierlist" was setting on keeper but elune's choosen are good o dead ?
EC is very mid atm
not compared to the other broken specs right now
but for m+ specifically it also only "really matters" after the .5 patch
- Tier lists are troll
- Anyone's opinion on how a spec plays 3 weeks before the patch is to launch shouldn't be taken at all serious
- Both specs are beans because the last tier set gave a 20% dam inc to Starfall
And yea, m+ "meta" doesn't matter at all until .5 or .7 patch. U can literally reroll at the end and still do title keys. It happens every season
still sucks if you are relying on lfg and get declined
blizz givin classes 50% baseline buffs meanwhile they give some 50% buffs via tier sets then takes it away
I mean.... It doesn't look like nitro has done a key since june and doesn't do title keys, so u can play w.e. u want in m+
Mage privilege, tragic really.
another mage tier for you?
Well I was gonna have to gear it regardless
We have 1 mage and he vacations during prog sometimes
So gear both play w.e. big chill
god those disgusting 150k surges 
Generally average mage
Whos on druid tier?
hunter mages
Ty im safe as we have very little of those
Guess who gets them first
F mages
If they do the same uhh cats charge shit, u'll have 4p week 2 or 3
Assuming ur getting 1 piece/token from raid
Okay, help me a bit with my napkin math here. Encounter looked at is Sprocketmonger.
( https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/68APzFqvZb31dyG9?fight=20&type=damage-done )
- I have 104199 Int/Spellpower. 4-Set is therefore capped at 2.604.975 damage.
- Five CAs in the encounter amounts to 13.024.875 damage stored. *2 for 2 Starsurges buffed: 26.049.750
- Total damage dealt in the encounter was 841.250.000 -> 4-Set would be a ~3.1% increase.
This disregards procs that increase spelldamage, total encounter damage includes old 4-Set, and assumes I always hit the cap. Additional damage is unaffected by damage increases, I presume?
For 5 targets: SS hits for ~4.360.000 average, which would be 6.964.975 damage per SS, so 13.929.950 per CA, so 69.649.750 total in our example, pushing the 4-Set to 8.27%.
This disregards the fact that we will have much higher total damage on 5 targets, reducing the percentage (~1,63B on Stix -> 4,27%)
Yea thats what my guild does. We push super fast for everyone to get full 4 pc by week 2-3
Holy
Spec spell power math will not be my forte ever.
I'm procrastinating, okay?
at least it's 69. damage
Ok
🫡
Me too, tbh
Do we know the damage school of the stored damage, or does it not have one?
it's added damage to the base starsurge, so astral
Neat
Tbh, it's more than I expected when I heard about the 25x cap
I'm still mad though
Did u take off the 20% surge inc from tierset or
Ah, no. I took the average damage over the whole encounter.
Whoopsie
Only affects the Multitarget number, though.
no ?
he's telling you to take away the CURRENT tier set bonus added damage
Yes.
4p gives +20% dam to surge when mushroom dot is on
I am not adding Starsurge damage in my calculations for Singletarget. I'm only looking at the added damage from the 4-Set
this added damage is subject to a lot of multipliers
mind to take the current 4p multiplier away when you calc
In Singletarget, a Starsurge is only a flat number added. In Multitarget, Starsurge splashes
So in ST, I can disregard the base damage of SS and can only look at the benefit from the bonus.
There is a slight inaccuracy in the percentage, though, that's true, because it takes the total encounter damage, which does include the current 4-Set, but I've already noted that.
your calculations are way off
you are just adding the "unbuffed" full stored 4p damage to the already buffed (as in eclipses, procs, harmony, ...) starsurge
you need to add 4p damage to base starsurge and then run every multiplier
but be mindful of not using the 20% current 4p multiplier when doing so
then you'll get a good image of the full 4p buffed surge damage
which is obviously higher than the current surge+2.6M you calculated (meaning surge would be like what, 15M total ? when we clearly can go up to 60M)
#balance message when Dsune said this, he didnt underline how much of an impact this oversight caused
but it's absolutly massive
any calculated base on elunes chosen?
So the nerf was really only massive in relation to the batshit broken way the tier was acting before, right? Is it that devastating in the grand scheme of things?
it is
set was like 70% of our damage and was basically cut in half
did some calculations earlier based on a single sim
Celestial Alignment #1: 2.452s -> 12.452s
Intellect: 143083
Average Starsurge: 5,720,674
Estimated Dryad Damage: 12,477,254
Buffed Starsurge Damage (2): 44,362,330
Damage Cap: 119,236,390
Total Damage in Dryad window: 141,979,906
Celestial Alignment #2: 35.002s -> 45.002s
Intellect: 115851
Average Starsurge: 4,969,707
Estimated Dryad Damage: 10,839,333
Buffed Starsurge Damage (2): 25,303,202
Damage Cap: 96,542,528
Total Damage in Dryad window: 75,322,370
Celestial Alignment #3: 124.263s -> 134.263s
Intellect: 155341
Average Starsurge: 5,856,336
Estimated Dryad Damage: 12,773,143
Buffed Starsurge Damage (2): 40,281,733
Damage Cap: 129,451,426
Total Damage in Dryad window: 125,860,179
Celestial Alignment #4: 257.705s -> 267.705s
Intellect: 161469
Average Starsurge: 4,879,395
Estimated Dryad Damage: 10,642,357
Buffed Starsurge Damage (2): 55,269,928
Damage Cap: 134,558,130
Total Damage in Dryad window: 97,367,169
Estimated DPS
Base DPS: 3,722,995
Estimated Damage: 211,949,279
DPS with Dryad: 4,429,493
Damage increases would amount to... 68%?
10% Moonkin Form
30% Inc
5% Starlight Conduit
5% Circle of the Heavens
6% Nurturing Instinct
6% Harmony of the Heavens
6% Waning Twilight
Damn, so are we actually now undertuned compared to the median now?












