balance

[tawdry dune]

much love! ty ty

[lucid olive]

CYGAkuH5GdQpDrgY32rlVGnyqBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALUmtmxYmBYWMLzMzCDDmlZWmZWmZmZGziZZMjZYDLAYAW2GLYamZZUAAIA2MzYA2MMG

[tawdry dune]

KOTG works even if it bugged?

[lofty depot]

do u know what the bug is

(yes its fine)

[scenic mist]

it does less damage than intended but it doesnt make it unplayable

[pallid bay]

do you?

lets hear it

[lofty depot]

which one

so many too choose

[lofty depot]

it could do more damage than intended 👀

[scenic mist]

i mean the only thing actually broken with the set atm is the dryad not doing any damage (outside of initial starfall)
anything else is just tuning related

[eager raft]

So you don’t know

🫵 😂

[lofty depot]

1 blocked message

[prime ingot]

the moonkins I've seen pumping hardest on ptr aren't taking fury/radiant, what's the lore there?

[lucid olive]

more damage in cooldowns

but can probably skip it for cosmos/umbral intensity

the guy just asked for a build so i logged on ptr and just sent whatever i was talented into

[rocky swan]

is this where we come to laugh about the mage discord

[sour rampart]

Every discord is laughing about it

[lofty depot]

Should @ everyone and do so

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[lucid olive]

I hope if I get banned you guys start stirring as much as Mage discord is

[scenic mist]

just dont use Tmorph pls

[lofty depot]

I will copy and paste whatever tettles comes up with

[rocky swan]

as someone who helps moderate a 450k+ user discord no pls

[scenic mist]

#GamzIsARaidBuff

[rocky swan]

last @ everyone an admin did broke the place

[lofty depot]

Hmm curious

Brb

[rocky swan]

lol

[lofty depot]

Is this like ur balancing ur chakras or

Oh

[eager raft]

I won’t

[rocky swan]

it’s a very large ffxiv server

focused on optimization and stuff

[lofty depot]

How do u know how well u optimized if u don't have a DPS meter, hmm

[rocky swan]

i mean we do

[lofty depot]

[rocky swan]

TECHNICALLY fflogs itself isn’t against tos

[lucid olive]

I remember spending a few hours setting up Delvui or whatever on FFXIV

then did 2 hours of mailman questing

logged off

[rocky swan]

ah that’s fair. i just got back to wow after a year away and they throw way too much at you

[lucid olive]

yee

i bought the level skip and campaign skip or whatever so i only had to do the most recent expansion, and it was like 4 years ago or something? no idea what expansion i played

[rocky swan]

ah probably shadowbringers idk

[lucid olive]

gameplay seemed alright but leveling was boring as hell, might give it another shot down the line when WoW has downtime

[calm ibex]

I played the free trial during shadowlands

[lucid olive]

whatever expansion this was

[pseudo merlin]

I played a bit of ffxiv 4 years ago

im still waiting for my GCD to come off cd

[lucid olive]

samurai gameplay wasn't too bad tbh

reminded me of windwalker a bit

[rocky swan]

yeah 71-80 would be sb

[sour rampart]

This is exactly what I would expect someone who plays boomkin to look like

[rocky swan]

i don’t really notice the longer gcd anymore

[rocky swan]

lol one sec

tis my cat

[lucid olive]

[pseudo merlin]

which one?

[sudden pawn]

damn the mage tc guy got 18 month banned.................

HUGE drama in the altered time discord rn..

[rocky swan]

oof

[pseudo merlin]

I saw

it was a perma

blizz made it 18m

[sour rampart]

😂

[sudden pawn]

got banned for "testing things"....

[lucid olive]

free norri

[rocky swan]

one thing i have to say about undermine zone is that moving around in those buildings as a giant turkey is not a great experience

[pseudo merlin]

free norri

[royal zenith]

keep norri banned

as an example

[lucid olive]

ravec to show you mean it why dont you tell everyone

[sudden pawn]

yeah thats what u get for playing ptr

banned

[rocky swan]

can we just ban all the mages

[pseudo merlin]

?`???????

Norri didn't do anything wrong

[lofty depot]

Norri should've contacted u, surely u have bigger pull than porom

[royal zenith]

heard he did

it's my word against porom's

who you gonna believe

[sudden pawn]

this was a trick, blizzard begged people to play ptr

[lofty depot]

Probably deux

[sudden pawn]

and now ur banned for it

[pseudo merlin]

@evryone FREE NORRI

[royal zenith]

:)

[pseudo merlin]

we should sacrifice deux

to get norri backc

[sudden pawn]

this a fat joke? calling me big??

[royal zenith]

Im fine with that

[lucid olive]

i know ravec would tell everyone if i got banned

hes a real one

[pseudo merlin]

true

[lofty depot]

Does a bear shit in the woods

[royal zenith]

only reason Im here is sunk-cost fallacy

[pseudo merlin]

I know this one

yes

[lucid olive]

people acting like norri being banned means mage won't have working sims when our simc dev hasn't logged in since vault of the incarnates

[lofty depot]

GJ ravec

[lucid olive]

but still free the mans

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-ragebait-angry-gon-bait-gif-5270896389597269350

[eager raft]

Yeah but blizzard is maybe probably potentially perhaps conceivably per chance mayhaps wrong

[lofty depot]

Hea gonna lose motivation

[royal zenith]

to be fair I hope he gets unbanned

[eager raft]

Why

[royal zenith]

but if he did do something that's banworthy

I mean

wcyd

[pseudo merlin]

Deux is the kind of person that would punish his own kid and then when there's factual evidence the kid was in fact innocent, he'd say "Well you could've done something wrong"

[eager raft]

Don’t walk it back now

[sudden pawn]

blizzard cant afford to lose more players, unban him to retain +15 dollars

[eager raft]

You said you’re glad he’s banned and hope he never gets unbanned

And now you change your mind

Double down

[royal zenith]

can't be using the argument But he's so important to magessss weehhhhhh

[lofty depot]

Sounds like -roi

[royal zenith]

wrong

I said make him an example

respectable lying as usual!!

[eager raft]

Make you an example

[lofty depot]

Paid someone to read all the twitter chatter to them give in

[sudden pawn]

https://imgur.com/2pkvABb

[eager raft]

Let deux take norrinir’s place

[pseudo merlin]

^

[lofty depot]

Deux gonna tc now?

[royal zenith]

hell no

I will take his banned role

[eager raft]

TC = use cheats to farm mounts

[hushed mauve]

What was the guy “testing” as was it clearly breaking rules?

[royal zenith]

me

[pallid bay]

#deserved

[lucid olive]

nobody knows

[royal zenith]

nobody -really- knows

[hushed mauve]

So little detail in the at disc

[pseudo merlin]

norri knows

[royal zenith]

he said he doesnt

[royal zenith]

sussy

[lucid olive]

thats what he said too...

[royal zenith]

ravec contradicting himself

[hushed mauve]

Exactly my thought

[royal zenith]

maybe you're a mage afterall ravec??

[lucid olive]

There are only assumptions

[hushed mauve]

Dude prob f’d up

[fossil hemlock]

I mean if you're fishing for ban removal you wouldn't exactly go out saying "yeah so I did cheat a little bit but I want to play the game"

[pseudo merlin]

I am not a wizard

[eager raft]

when you tested convoke 5 million times did u use hacks

[pseudo merlin]

I do not wear dresses

[lucid olive]

but it's not new that people get falsely banned

Critcake got banned for the same automated reason 3 months ago

[royal zenith]

see this is literally the crux though

if you didnt anything wrong no problem

[eager raft]

And then got unbanned when reviewed by a person

[royal zenith]

if you did do something wrong, the band should stick

simple

[eager raft]

Mage guy got 18 months

[royal zenith]

ban *

[pallid bay]

yeah

im a hacker

hacking the mainframe..

[lofty depot]

My face when neither did Dr. Disrespect

[lucid olive]

Yeah and a person reviewed it because Critcake used his platform to make them see it

Blizzard CS notoriously slow

[eager raft]

yeah that’s cheating

[pallid bay]

the duality

[royal zenith]

[sudden pawn]

[lucid olive]

I would rip the everyone ping if Oi got banned

[pallid bay]

thyme wouldnt let you

[lofty depot]

Was indefinitely then moved to 18m

[royal zenith]

probably something small

but I mean you get 18m for what

[lofty depot]

18m not small

[royal zenith]

buying gold?

[eager raft]

I’d rip an everyone ping for a lot let than oi getting banned

[lofty depot]

Next expacs comes out before then

[royal zenith]

sharing accounts?

[lucid olive]

Also like, WoW's EULA is not written very well with these things

[pallid bay]

bet you wont

[fossil hemlock]

The guys defence was legit "If I wanted to cheat I could have easily in the past, but I didn't"

[pallid bay]

oh yeah, you've read it?

[fossil hemlock]

As if that makes him trustworthy

[lucid olive]

ye

[fossil hemlock]

[royal zenith]

no it's written well, you just want it to specifically state this or that

[sudden pawn]

maybe he was running some sort of script for reading his inputs for something and blizzard shot him down

[eager raft]

It’ll just get auto modded I need to spend time farming a coloured name first

[pseudo merlin]

think Naguura would make a video if O i got banned

[royal zenith]

but it's written in a way to have control

[eager raft]

play the long con

[lofty depot]

If oi got banned what weakaura would I use 😭

[royal zenith]

not to be exactly right

[eager raft]

So I can @ everyone

[pallid bay]

what section talks about 3rd party software

[royal zenith]

C ii

[fossil hemlock]

Luxthos

[royal zenith]

(I actually read the part)

[sudden pawn]

none, get used to the cooldown manager, youll be using it from midnights onward when they nuke WA

[pseudo merlin]

Bro I got banned for 6 months for using a fish bot in vanilla classic wow for under 10 minutes

[eager raft]

I know for sure deux would get me unbanned if blizz banned me

[lofty depot]

Gonna ban myself before using that

[royal zenith]

I would not put effort in getting anyone unbanned if honest

[pseudo merlin]

🤮

[royal zenith]

where there's smoke...

[pallid bay]

i shouldnt be hating..

bad look

[pseudo merlin]

there's a smoke machine

[lofty depot]

Froyo is in the know so it must be true, fuck

[eager raft]

You’ve unbanned me from here several times

[royal zenith]

a timeout is not a ban

[sudden pawn]

what do u mean ion literally said goodbye WA on youtube

[lucid olive]

C

[lofty depot]

Yea but ions lied a lot

[eager raft]

Ok a 18 month suspension isn’t a ban either then

Idiot

[sudden pawn]

lawyer talk

[lofty depot]

Can't trust that rat

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-dance-funny-rat-dance-dancing-rat-gif-7971112121050838550

[royal zenith]

I can ban you rn tho respectable

[eager raft]

That’s ok you can if u want

[royal zenith]

no that's not fun

you need to be seething

[eager raft]

I will be leaving this place for good the next time I get timed out

[pseudo merlin]

lets all get banned and play OSRS

Clan: DGEN

[royal zenith]

not a bad idea

wait

bad idea

[pseudo merlin]

??????

[royal zenith]

Im a normal human being

tyvm

[pseudo merlin]

well first of all no

[royal zenith]

and 2nd?

[pseudo merlin]

that's also the 2nd

there's no way loot is not bugged right

[lucid olive]

heard u like belts

[pallid bay]

girdle it up buddy

[prime ingot]

uh oh

[pseudo merlin]

Looks like one of those chastity belts

[lucid olive]

make a resto shaman and sign up

[lofty depot]

Prot pally is not my bis

Everyone worried about their main like Voidman isn't gonna spam

[pseudo merlin]

Voidman is going to go crazy

Whole fucking season of godcomp

[royal zenith]

okay but that's funny

need clips

[royal zenith]

ENTROPY

ffs

[pseudo merlin]

entropy deez nuts

[upbeat nimbus]

Hey Folks,

Returning druid from Legion

I am struggling to get my head around the rotation/priorities.

I wanted to know, i often can forget what I ive casted and can tunnel vision to get what i think the rotation is

[lofty depot]

Pins > compendium> read it

Then go download a gcd tracker like trugcd or w.e., turn on recording Nvidia thingy and go hit the dummy for 5 minutes.

Then rewatch what u did and compare to what the prio says u should be doing

But the best way to learn something is by doing it, over and over and over again.

[manic yarrow]

on ptr, does the 4p damage during last dryad reset if you die?

[lofty depot]

I would just assume so because u would lose the buff

[upbeat nimbus]

Thanks Wrong Opener!

[lofty depot]

U can also go log like an lfr kill and then post it

Would do what is said about reading the prio list first tho

@carmine vigil r u gonna start posting mattiu content on twitter?

[lucid olive]

whys wilkz thrist trapping on my feed

[lofty depot]

Next adept gonna

Tettles would never tho

[carmine vigil]

do u like it

[lofty depot]

It's hawt

[carmine vigil]

^_^

[lucid olive]

not complaining

[lofty depot]

Becomes giga Chad r1 gamer and then gets cut

Soon he's gonna be lorgok

[carmine vigil]

holy i would love to be half his size one day that guy is a beast

[lofty depot]

Gonna have to wax all that hair

[royal zenith]

proper ragebait @carmine vigil

very creative in these times of need (end of tier)

although you're competing with mage discord so

hmm.

[royal zenith]

hahhaha

glad you noticed

[cloud plover]

of course i did

just couldnt respond with the 1 hr slowmode

[carmine vigil]

merci

[lofty depot]

French is not allowed

[hollow mist]

:3

[pseudo merlin]

THIS

[scenic mist]

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah that's you buddy

[prime ingot]

zorthas is doing the lord's work

[pseudo merlin]

That's not sandbagging...

[royal zenith]

there's no way balance druid is overtuned right now!

[pseudo merlin]

I wasnt even getting invited to +2s on PTR

Boomie is so bad rn

[pallid bay]

i saw a clip of you doing 7M hps

maybe we need to make some resto propaganda

[pseudo merlin]

nope

the tier set is bad too

[pallid bay]

what is blud doing

[royal zenith]

I see nothing wrong though

yeah you're talking to people that are chronically online in this channel

dw we know

[prime ingot]

the best part about this moonkin tierset is that it will make some of you fuckers keybind bear form

[pallid bay]

need shout..

shaman

aug..

[lofty depot]

Not holding trees so u can get 3rd/4th in tree window aswell, smh

[meager storm]

not even using hotw

sandbagging

[frozen solar]

Hey guys, would u chain incarns if its a big pull? like first pull cinder etc.

[lucid olive]

sure

if the mobs live thru ur 2nd incarn theres not an issue

[scenic mist]

if the pack is above 50% health when incarn n1 fades, i would

[frozen solar]

ah thanks. that's a good pointer

[lofty depot]

Does the pack live long enough
If yes, then yes
If no, then no

Shrimple

[frozen solar]

🦐you very much

[pseudo merlin]

what if maybe

or both

Schrödinger's CA

[crisp scaffold]

How does his starsurge hit so much ? \

[lucid olive]

magic

he waved his wand and said the magic words

[crisp scaffold]

ok

[scenic mist]

kotg tierset funnels

[lofty depot]

We're doing big cool techy stuff

230 isn't even a lot

[grand prawn]

The way it works now is you dont waste the procs from Dryad on 1st incarn and only use it on second incarn, so the 3rd Incarn is going to be a Nuke bomb?

And between incarn u just spend Astral on starfall even os ST?

[scenic mist]

you can do that yeah

but as long as we dont have the robot running, no way to tell which gameplay is the most efficient

[lofty depot]

Well u can hit cap on 2nd and it be a "nuke bomb" depends where u want it

There's also the normal 7mil, bear 9-10m cap, and then the bigger 12-13m or bigger if u have other shit

[grand prawn]

Is the tier bugged somehow in PTR now or it's how it should work and it's just very good?

[scenic mist]

the only bug is that it's doing less damage than it should

[grand prawn]

ROFL

[scenic mist]

(no cap)

[lofty depot]

"the dryad" is doing less damage than it should

Which is currently 0

[crisp scaffold]

so 230mil hits are normal ?

[scenic mist]

basically we play without 2p set bonus

[crisp scaffold]

cuz I only got 84mil

[lucid olive]

it is working as designed yes

[scenic mist]

in the situation of the clip it can yes

[grand prawn]

So, the dmg stored on your tier set had a cap and the cap goes up with you max HP?

[lucid olive]

Yes

[scenic mist]

50% of you maxhp when the dryad fades

[grand prawn]

So, turning into bear form before dryad ends is a "must"

[lucid olive]

yes

[grand prawn]

Nice

[pallid bay]

no

only if you exceed the cap

[scenic mist]

only if you think you went over the regular cap

in ST for instance, it might not be necessary

[exotic perch]

cant wait to not get the 100 parse

[grand prawn]

Prob gonna have a Wa saying what your cap, righ? xDD

[exotic perch]

when my shaman doesnt heal me at the end of my ramp

or warrior doesnt rally

[lofty depot]

There do be one of those

[prime ingot]

(if you don't exceed the cap everyone will laugh at you)

[lucid olive]

Also that interaction is surely getting removed before the patch comes so it's not something I would worry all too much about

[scenic mist]

surely

[grand prawn]

This realy changes moonkin playstyle. I liked it

[pallid bay]

TTS telling you what a bad person you are if u dont

[scenic mist]

the funnel part is fun, the bear part isnt

[lucid olive]

Need to make high score WA

[grand prawn]

Yes, the funnel dmg profile i mean

[crisp scaffold]

ptr down right?

[scenic mist]

yes

[lofty depot]

Skrill issue

[scenic mist]

funnel + splash even

[grand prawn]

Hope they dont go back and change the tier set at all

[scenic mist]

is that whale food ?

[grand prawn]

And just ajust the numbers

[lofty depot]

If u consider urself a whale maybe

[scenic mist]

they wont have time ig

[scenic mist]

[quick snow]

is there a known bug with randomly getting aggro in keys shifting bear for survivability reasons?

[lucid olive]

not a bug

you generate more threat in bear form

[quick snow]

but pull was gathered long time

[lucid olive]

yes that doesnt matter

[maiden pasture]

and you do ramping damage

[pseudo merlin]

all threat from ongoing and existing dmg

[maiden pasture]

and if all of that damage has a threat buff on it

[lucid olive]

every tank spec has a threat modifier

[maiden pasture]

its a lot of threat

[lucid olive]

druids threat modifier is tied to bear form

and not to guardian spec

[quick snow]

i hate it

but thx

[pseudo merlin]

itl be reduced next patch

[lucid olive]

its getting changed next tier

[quick snow]

perfect

[lofty depot]

Lol, he doesn't know we generate a lot of threat from our 200+m surge

All the wargens and taurens gonna die without meld

[meager storm]

what is the worgen passive again

some crit sht

[loud kettle]

ya 1% cr and the active is a move speed buff

one of the very few move speed buffs that stack with others

[lucid olive]

1% cr?

so you can only ress 1 in 100 times

[meager storm]

so next tier is a tauren tier

[loud kettle]

for the hp?

[meager storm]

crit dmg

for the big surges

[loud kettle]

math maths, just need a bop

[lofty depot]

All fours?

[meager storm]

only way to parse will be getting all crits

[lofty depot]

Is taurens Crit dam?

[loud kettle]

ok sure, you can be ur own mount with running wild or whatever

[lofty depot]

Sgit

[loud kettle]

ye

[lofty depot]

Shittttttt

[meager storm]

they will for sure nerf surge a lot and then aura buff the rest

[loud kettle]

nelf is haste/crit and meld

[lofty depot]

Shitttttttttt

[meager storm]

haste during night

[plucky valley]

100%

mmmm

99.7%

[meager storm]

i will throw random numbers, 50% nerf to the set then like a 20% aura buff

so we hit like 100 mil surges still

[plucky valley]

[meager storm]

imagine if goldrinn scaled with surge dmg

200 mil surge and a 100 mil goldrinn

holy

[lofty depot]

Holy

[pseudo merlin]

ok but surely this shit isnt going to go live with the HP stuff

[lucid olive]

dryad duration reduced to 8 seconds, dryad's favor no longer scales with modifiers, cap is no longer based on HP

[lofty depot]

Stop

[meager storm]

i remember when goldrinn used to do dmg

my beloved

[meager storm]

just make whirling keep ca duration for 15s and buff or do some sht with OS

no one is picking that sht

imagine OS makes ca 20s and u shoot the beam 3 times

at the start, 10s in and after ca is done

holy

[lucid olive]

maybe you should remove OS and replace it with something that makes you proc CA on like a 30-45s cadence

[lucid olive]

could base it on AP spent or something?

[scenic mist]

favor not scaling with modifiers is point blank killing the set

[lucid olive]

imagine the keeper tier set with pulsar actually

hoooooly

[meager storm]

we were so close to that

could have been so fun

[meager storm]

we will be kinda deadge

without modifiers what do we do like 20 mil surges?

[lucid olive]

then aura buff to compensate innit

[meager storm]

oh

[lucid olive]

also blanket buff starfall

[meager storm]

just a 50% aura buff

[lucid olive]

that button does nothin

[meager storm]

if we are not even top dps with our set being like 70% of our dmg

and they gut that sht we will need a 50% aura buff

[lofty depot]

Yea nice nice

[scenic mist]

but we are top dmg with the set atm

on ST at least

[meager storm]

we are in fact not

dont look at the bosses that lasted 50s-1 min in testing

thats literally our ramp

or if u have perfect kill time

[lofty depot]

Blud doesn't know BM exists

[scenic mist]

yeah i meant top damage as among the top dmging specs, not specifically top1

[lofty depot]

U said top not top 5

[pseudo merlin]

goal post shifting

typical 🇫🇷

🥖 🚬 🧀

[scenic mist]

[meager storm]

mm bm spriest if they try dh bug

frost

our base kit is so dogsht we need a set that does 70% of our dmg to be at the top

rework us please

[celest narwhal]

Dh bug funny. Found a kill log of 11m dps

[lofty depot]

warlock

wow so cool like 4 abilities = 57% of my damage

druid, hhold my beer

oh recruities is worse

[wild dune]

"we saw starsurge being a greater contributer to balance druid damage profile than we like"

-10% starsurge
5% aura buff

[meager storm]

only -10%

they will prob change the way cap works to something that will reduce its dmg a lot

[spark anchor]

haha

get fucked chickens

[wild dune]

Oh shit

[spark anchor]

idek

where is the boomkin nerfs

wtf

aha!

[true viper]

https://tenor.com/view/omgbruh-corey-harris-omg-bruh-zoom-court-gif-2693074222613527227

Fuck ass devs man

[meager storm]

no one is brining ferals to rwf

let it go man

mage nerfs

lets go

[strange trench]

Mage still dumb strong

[ebon plover]

im going all in for new season on boomy with a lock alt

1 of them gotta be good all season right ?

[rotund sparrow]

It's the lock

[nova ocean]

At least they killed out 4pc so now they can buff our baseline damage

[cloud citrus]

i mean 14 mil surges instead of 150 mil surges kinda cracked nerf

[ripe slate]

this too lol

[nova ocean]

[cloud citrus]

yea its 30k cap

[ripe slate]

no more bear form shenans

how much spellpower do we even have i never look at that number

[nova ocean]

That's good

[vital hound]

[nova ocean]

No idea lol was wondering too

[maiden pasture]

:huh

[wicked slate]

cap your alts!!!

[pseudo merlin]

wtf is a valorstone

[obsidian tapir]

are we dead ?

[cloud citrus]

wait what

[mighty mica]

yup, delete your character

[strange trench]

Any smart people do the math on the nerfs

[cloud citrus]

valorstones are no longer reset???

[wild dune]

Get to farming bud

[obsidian tapir]

its deleted

[mighty mica]

[cloud citrus]

can we xfer our valorstones i wonder

so you just have like 32k worth ready for ur main

[pseudo merlin]

Anyoen remember Drakedog's char delete video

[lofty depot]

says nerfed as if thats a nerf

[maiden pasture]

transferring is only part of turbo patch

[lofty depot]

JUST WAIT TIL I ARAZ RIGHT BEFORE IT DESPAWNS

[maiden pasture]

so wont be able to next patch

[vital hound]

excuse me mods why arent the pins updated for new notes

!!!

[cloud citrus]

850k is the cap

[pseudo merlin]

ping thyme

lazy bald sod

[cloud citrus]

vs the 5 - 7 million we get now

[celest narwhal]

Say syke. 850k.

[vital hound]

i guarantee the wowhead fella just guessed

[true viper]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/250930140010250240/952253328635609088/ezgif.com-gif-maker_4.gif

[cloud citrus]

also the duration was nerfed for the buff

[true viper]

what is it

[cloud citrus]

so that might be funny to test when ptr comes back up

[lofty depot]

thats not how math works

[misty patrol]

Chat are we cooked

[cloud plover]

finally some nerfs

[cloud citrus]

17 644 * 50 is 850k

17 644 is our base spell at 80

[strange trench]

Needed to get nerfed idk about this

[strange trench]

I wonder if we’ll hold that massive int trinket till the tier set procs

[cloud citrus]

itll still be worth but if the duration is also nerfed then no point

just send double CA back to back in opener and use it for the last 6 seconds for a double on use like venthyr did

[lofty depot]

nice small int dog

but my int isnt 17k

[cloud citrus]

Base Int

[sleek verge]

base int

[wild dune]

[cloud citrus]

no wonder your called arctic always so cold

[strange trench]

Double on use angle ?

[misty patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-reversed-reverse-shocked-gif-15608473656380865909

[cloud plover]

brainfreeze buddy?

[lofty depot]

yea type shit

[wild dune]

orange name getting toasted n roasted by white names

[vital hound]

who tf cares about base int

[wild dune]

classic

[cloud plover]

the tool tip of the patch notes

[lofty depot]

it says base spell power not int

grr

[cloud plover]

[vital hound]

holy shit we got bozo bean'd

[cloud citrus]

spell power is the same as your int buddy

[lofty depot]

erhm

[strange trench]

Yes, I know ?

[lofty depot]

@lucid olive plz confirm

[cloud citrus]

was talking to arctic

[celest narwhal]

So it’s gonna be like 7 m again

[strange trench]

Ahhh

[vital hound]

if its base

[strange trench]

Was confused

[vital hound]

thats not good

surely its not base

[cloud plover]

what

[cloud citrus]

850k is just double damage sheep

so if you crit 14 mil itll be 28mil

[cloud citrus]

slithly more like 32-3mil

[rustic harbor]

it's dead

[grand prawn]

DEADGE

[vital hound]

yea thats bad

[night gulch]

is it time to doom

[vital hound]

because nothing else in our kit

does damage

[prime ingot]

let's blame zorthas for this

[cloud citrus]

ye we need like a 120% aura buff atm which is insane

losing our set from this tier + getting that set and how we are hitting mastery caps so we are scaling less

[nova ocean]

It's insane how dead we r lol

[cloud citrus]

boomy in a real bad spot atm

[cloud plover]

here's what u do

u make an @ everyone post

[pseudo merlin]

It's over.

[cloud plover]

for an uproar

[ripe slate]

are servers up? is that actually what you cap at now lol

[cloud citrus]

everyone ready to play Elunes Chosen for raids????

IM SO READY

[ripe slate]

fucking LMAO

[mighty mica]

?

dumb fuck

[pseudo merlin]

idk

discord tripping

[obsidian flicker]

no

[cloud plover]

yes

[shrewd pivot]

Fdk dodging nerfs, relevant tuning patch coming soon surely

[cloud plover]

I wanted that

[pseudo merlin]

woa wtf uncalled for

[mighty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma-hit-jerma-slap-slap-jerma985-gif-5877194680309495682

[cloud plover]

give me ec for raid

happy happy

[pseudo merlin]

Thyme's been so aggressive lately

IT's kinda hot

[cloud plover]

what hanging around lakie and the gang does to someone

[ripe slate]

im not super convinced on "base spell power" actually meaning "base int", that would actually annihilate the tier, if anything it might just mean unincluding stuff like aug

[cloud plover]

[pseudo merlin]

[humble lantern]

L boomy back to gutter

[potent cargo]

back like it never left

[cloud citrus]

we will still be fine im sure

[prime ingot]

there's like a 99% chance that base int just means your spellpower bc that number is really close to what 50% of your hp would be

[carmine bolt]

Boomie back in the gutter where it belongs

[vital hound]

right back to the bottom in the rwf

and topping my guild meters

[lofty depot]

and makes it a closer to "hard" number

rather than someone that can be messed with

[vital hound]

here's hoping its another case of blizzard not knowing what word mean

[lofty depot]

but my araz trinkey 🙂

[zealous river]

yeah they mean base as just spell power base value not without items etc xD

[vast dawn]

May i ask what is the best for simc? setting wise?

[mighty mica]

lakie keeps me normal, the others send me over

[vale tundra]

doesnt base spell power mean your base spell power without any buffs whatsoever

[potent cargo]

wdym

[vale tundra]

like

[potent cargo]

u sim based on ur requirements

[strange trench]

Fuck this back to mage

[lofty depot]

1target 5m usually is the base

[vast dawn]

Ya but i mean is it patchwork? or light movment?

[meager storm]

how about we stop dooming and wait for ptr to go live

[strange trench]

Jkjk

[vital hound]

wrong

[lofty depot]

patchwerk always

[meager storm]

[vital hound]

im at work i cant login anyway

so im gonna pop off in here for a bit

[ripe slate]

my thoughts exactly

[night gulch]

dooming is in our blood, we cannot help it

[vital hound]

[lofty depot]

dooming isnt allowed

thymed out soon

[potent cargo]

doom it up

games dying lets go play fortnite

log on anthem

[misty patrol]

where we dropping boys

[lofty depot]

at ur moms house

[vital hound]

definitely not

[ripe slate]

[misty patrol]

not a lot of loot there...

[lofty depot]

that ass there tho

[prime ingot]

on the dps meter

[vital hound]

[misty patrol]

[lucid olive]

ye, its a little less

[lofty depot]

jdota in balance, means hes slamming balance

[lucid olive]

120k int and 14.4m on PTR

[misty patrol]

hows resto looking guys

[lucid olive]

so 6m cap down from a 7.2m cap

[vital hound]

is base spell power

[lucid olive]

and then harder to reach cap

[vital hound]

just poor word choice

[lofty depot]

sir it says base spell power

funny blue post

am i right

[lucid olive]

i assume base spell power just means your intellect excluding trinkets dps potion etc

[cloud citrus]

it can also bean the base of the spell

[misty patrol]

WERE SO BACK

[cloud citrus]

it can mean like 4-5 different things

[vital hound]

who's laughing

[cloud citrus]

just need to test

[lucid olive]

yeah blue post writers not the smartest

[vital hound]

tbh lets just wait for recruitie to show up

with a notepad of numbers

[celest narwhal]

Time to recruit double aug!

[lofty depot]

time to go apply to be blue pooster

[prime ingot]

did we talk about this yet? "Balance, Feral, Guardian:
When your Dryad fades, your next 2 Starsurges damage for an additional amount equal to 5%3% of your damage done while it was active and splash 20%10% of their damage onto nearby enemies, reduced beyond 5 targets."

[shrewd pivot]

Did they say the dryad buff was shorter or the 2 starsurges after

[cloud citrus]

like base spell power can put it at 850k which is double dam, base spell power at the time can make it 5mil at 100k int

[lucid olive]

wait for PTR to be up and then go test

[cloud citrus]

can also mean base spell power of the spell itself which has been used b4 on the classic notes which would put it at 5.4mil

[lofty depot]

they did not

but god forbid some random shit change and not be on the blue post

[lofty depot]

wheres that from

[cloud plover]

yo guys did u hear

"Balance, Feral, Guardian:
When your Dryad fades, your next 2 Starsurges damage for an additional amount equal to 5%3% of your damage done while it was active and splash 20%10% of their damage onto nearby enemies, reduced beyond 5 targets."

[cloud citrus]

theres a duration change to 30000

[prime ingot]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/boomkins-nerfed-rogues-buffed-and-many-tier-set-changes-in-latest-patch-11-2-ptr-377752

scroll to bottom

[livid zephyr]

dafuq

[cloud plover]

wait no way u guys didnt see that

[lofty depot]

ok so its easier to ready

and nmot ur funny 5%3% thing

[meager storm]

harder to reach cap

and nerfed spalsh dmg

fuck m+ers

amen

[livid zephyr]

jeb just here to gloat about the death of moonkin

[lofty depot]

type shit

[vital hound]

pvp nerfed as well

gg g

[cloud citrus]

m+s always ruin raiding chyckens lives

[misty patrol]

We're so not back..

[cloud plover]

we're so back

[meager storm]

now the splash dmg wont be top of the overall

amen

[livid zephyr]

we're so back (to the bench)

[vital hound]

bless

[blazing loom]

eat shit xoxo

[misty patrol]

[vital hound]

our spells doing damage

not funny interactions

[lofty depot]

this is good

[misty patrol]

ur mum

[blazing loom]

same thing

[viscid cedar]

I haven't paid attention to ptr, what % was the tier previously?

[meager storm]

servers live

[cloud citrus]

someone check da BUFF im stuck on load screen

[lofty depot]

no sims

[meager storm]

% of what

[lofty depot]

dont know

well i assume they ment % gain

[viscid cedar]

I was thinking 4p current to 4p next tier type sim

[lofty depot]

but shrug true

yea we dont know

sim no work

[misty patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360572438691708941/1264113093181575211/u7ec2f5sg8.gif

[cloud citrus]

sims wont be useful until closer

even if they did work so many changes this week

[snow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

[blazing loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814979296874987571/878746167951900702/boomkin.gif

[lofty depot]

fuggn liar

[misty patrol]

man got me there...

[cloud plover]

like 44% for shadow priest, like 50000000% for boomie

tbh

[blazing loom]

[meager storm]

too easy to bait u

[lofty depot]

[viscid cedar]

yeah whatever I can bitch about it to my guild when the tier comes out if it's bad

[shrewd pivot]

Well none of our other spells do damage

So that might be a tiny problem

Surely they'll have a major tuning pass soon

[lofty depot]

yea but like -10% of 1bill is still round up to be a bill

[cloud citrus]

lol

[lofty depot]

we out side with it

[meager storm]

on a st boss the set itself did around 60% of my dmg

so u know

[obsidian flicker]

wait if they fixed the dryad not starsurging it might even out

[vital hound]

nah he meant the % modifiers

i think

[meager storm]

that will not even out

[cloud citrus]

No it wont

rofl

[vital hound]

?

[lofty depot]

well it starsurges

those surges just do no damage

[obsidian flicker]

😆 didn't know that

[lofty depot]

and we dont know cuz server not live

[meager storm]

cant wait my dryad to do 3 mil surges

actually

its 30% now

[lofty depot]

big if true

[meager storm]

1.5 mil surges

[shrewd pivot]

Just like our non tier set buffed starsurges

[meager storm]

1% of my overall

[tacit oak]

I think balance needs a general buff on baseline abilities and nerf of the tierset

currently tierset does more than50% dam

[meager storm]

balance needs a whole rework

this sht is ass

[lofty depot]

clearly we need more abilities so they can also do no damage

[ripe slate]

plot twist they never fixed dryad from benefitting from 4p they just masked it with the dryad not working at all

[meager storm]

hold on

[misty patrol]

Were so back 2.0 ?

[night gulch]

the funny thing is they fixed the similar bug for evoker, but still haven't fixed it for boomkin

[lofty depot]

so u gotta do 233m instead of 140m

hm

[ripe slate]

the life of moonkin hangs in the balance of these dumb servers coming up

[lofty depot]

tough tough.........

[ripe slate]

cant wait for "base spell power" to not mean shit at all and we benefit from like aug buff and trinkets buffing our cap

[lofty depot]

kek

[cloud citrus]

lol

[snow drum]

Just bring back Wod balance smh

[lofty depot]

means we liekly cant hit cap on first ca but 2nd :/ (on st)

[meager storm]

i just love how they made reach cap harder

so now for sure u hold the buff till 2nd ca

so u can cap

[vital hound]

player agency

[meager storm]

[lofty depot]

ye

until they nerf the duration

[misty patrol]

This sounds like turbo cursed gameplay

[lofty depot]

which they still havent fucking done

[meager storm]

and then we will never reach cap

[cloud citrus]

they changed the duration to 30000 in the patch notes

[maiden pasture]

funnel spec

[cloud citrus]

so be interesting to see what that actually means

[night gulch]

they're just going to nerf the duration and not change anything else lmao

[tacit oak]

they need to nerf the tier set and buff baseline abilities spenders doing 1.5 mil 3 mil crits?

[maiden pasture]

wheres this, did i miss this or

[cloud citrus]

if its only resto or boomy actually gets it too

[meager storm]

like this needed a nerf for sure

[cloud citrus]

Resto got it changed

[ripe slate]

looks good to me ship it live

[loud kettle]

that would be 30s

[meager storm]

so u send trees early, u take advantage of some seconds of it so it will be back like 3s before the buff runs out for 2nd cds

[shrewd pivot]

They made that worse btw

[lucid olive]

it didnt work before the fix either

[modest orchid]

@meager storm @sudden pawn are we bad with the nerf or are we still good, please think for me i cant think for myself

[ripe slate]

servers please...

[meager storm]

wont know till we test

[shadow zephyr]

we stay dooming until people can ptr test

[ripe slate]

i need to know if i need to practice my mage again

[cloud citrus]

doom first then be happy later

[lofty depot]

wereeeeeeeeeee fine

[modest orchid]

always doom never test

[cloud citrus]

we should be fine though b

[ripe slate]

we're fine until base spell power actually means the 17k base int and out cap is like 800k

[lofty depot]

i trust not the blue poster

[cloud citrus]

850k still means the sets fine btw

it just has the same power as this tiers

[lofty depot]

blud cant do math

its insane

[ripe slate]

technically the blue post is wrong too, old was 50% of max health not just health ( )

[lofty depot]

like i said

never trust blue pooster

[modest orchid]

so we went from good to second worst class in the game

[misty patrol]

[meager storm]

we dont know

[cloud citrus]

servers should come up

[meager storm]

maybe we went from good to best tank dmg

[ripe slate]

dooming is officially put on hold until servers come up

[shrewd pivot]

I would say boomkin started better than "good"

In ptr

[rose aspen]

it’s never too early to doom

[lofty depot]

boomkin always starting good

[cloud citrus]

after the fix last week doh we werent even top

[lofty depot]

then dak does some gamer shit

[rose aspen]

rollout the twitter complain

[cloud citrus]

for st (aoe was bonkers though)

[meager storm]

for aoe we were bonkers

[shrewd pivot]

Aoe wasn't the bonkers part, it's the prio damage

[lofty depot]

"We"

ayo big change

[lucid olive]

we are the worst spec in the game now

[strange edge]

Ugh not another season of BM hunters.

[lucid olive]

literally aug tier

gg

reroll

[shrewd pivot]

Pin it

[lucid olive]

see you in wyrmrest temple

[lofty depot]

what he means, is we need an aug to do more dam

[cloud citrus]

see you in mop

o wait we da worst there too

[night gulch]

we never left aug tier 😎

[misty patrol]

Mage tier it is

GG

[modest orchid]

so what is everyone rerolling to now that boomy is dead

[shrewd pivot]

No sc is dead, pick another spec

[ripe slate]

im gonna laugh if aug int buffs our cap

truly gonna be cinema

[cloud citrus]

spriest or mage

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/reroll-boomkin-druid-world-of-gif-9224477950400865848

[meager storm]

holding 40k int trinket for 2nd ca

[ripe slate]

[cloud citrus]

BIG DAM

[shrewd pivot]

Didn't we already do that with 2x on use

[meager storm]

imagine the trinket actually helps the cap

[lofty depot]

not at the end no

u would use araz close to the end and not during

cuz araz scales down as it goes away

starts at like 40k int

[meager storm]

ye at the end

[shrewd pivot]

Yea but there's probably a middle ground to buff the first 2 from the previous set

If you can still extend

[meager storm]

we wont be capping unless we are doing an amp boss

but who knows

[cloud citrus]

atleast its not the dumb

[meager storm]

maybe a 400 milly surge

[lofty depot]

could if the first 2 crit

[cloud citrus]

trinket from shadowlands

[lofty depot]

is only 233m

[merry ibex]

Maybe nobody else feels this way but I dont really want to play keeper in all content and this weird ramp up over 2 CAs to blast and couple of SSs

[ripe slate]

god i love crit rng

[wild dune]

just delete this cringe tier set and try again

[ripe slate]

u can just slam the 2 surges at the end of ur single ca if you want

who knows if thatll be optimal but you can

[lofty depot]

yea i much rather spam a million starfires

[meager storm]

i can see them making a future set pulsar

look who is back

[ripe slate]

bro

[misty patrol]

They would do that

and it would be great

[solar orbit]

So its a confirmed resto druid season now huh?

[ripe slate]

and then they do the whole "make a tier a talent" thing

[lofty depot]

no

[lucid olive]

nah we are getting new hero trees in Midnight

[lofty depot]

jdot been in here all day

[lucid olive]

"hero of the pulsar"

[misty patrol]

[lofty depot]

hes a balance main now

[misty patrol]

W

He's seen the light

[prime ingot]

it's a race to the bottom

[cloud citrus]

id much rather be a tree then a chicken

[prime ingot]

rdruid getting nerfed next week

[meager storm]

at least u are not a bear druid

[lofty depot]

yea its shinning off his head

[prime ingot]

maybe a guardian season by the end of this

[maiden pasture]

new legendary in midnight: "after 10 starsurges, you gain celestial alignment for 6 secconds"

[lucid olive]

Jdot has one of the funniest entries in the Copypasta doc to be fair

[misty patrol]

Can't play boomkin and not have a flashbang ontop of your head

[lucid olive]

Jdotb the author of the classic "man I see a discord noti, get excited, open app, see it's dreamgrove, assume resto, then see it's balance, fucking finally someone is asking me for moonkin advice, no actually you're just bald"

[maiden pasture]

😭

was that to ravec or what

[pseudo merlin]

bro

[misty patrol]

[rose epoch]

If I have to do the cringe starfall shit on ST between CA/treants or however the fuck it works I'm not playing fuck that

[lofty depot]

it is tough pressing 6 starfalls

[trail tangle]

I am confused, is the nerf just making the dryad scale lower?

[pseudo merlin]

A real moonkin main plays only moonkin, a smart moonkin main has a backup plan

[cloud citrus]

yea a second moonkin

[lofty depot]

the note has nothing to do with the dryad damage

[meager storm]

[shrewd pivot]

Our non buffed starsurges no do damage anyway so it's probably the same anyway

[lofty depot]

its like 10% less dam or some shit

[shrewd pivot]

That's pretty pathetic

[lofty depot]

maybe 15 if u did the calc diff

[maiden pasture]

the high parsing king does not concern himself with the opinion of fotm grey parsers

https://tenor.com/view/lion-lion-mentality-stare-anything-that-speaks-small-dog-gif-15965921308779714815

[delicate perch]

Is that kekkers

[meager storm]

indeed

[pseudo merlin]

[lyric quarry]

Hey guys, with Balance being extremely overpowered again I'm looking to switch, is this spec still 4 buttons?

[pseudo merlin]

extremely overpowered again?