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#balance
severe hollow
vital hound
yea trolled by sion
maiden pasture
but why risk
vital hound
what else is new
patent wharf
should I use heroic house of cards over mythic signet in m+?
lucid olive
depends how you play your cooldowns
severe hollow
in game 3?
lucid olive
they're about equal but playing for 2m use is cringe
severe hollow
I think they will try this game
vital hound
probs
patent wharf
Im mean Im just using signet with like every other incarn
severe hollow
yea no clue what they can do
severe hollow
dunno think may have been possible if camille is ahead
lucid olive
Im mean Im just using signet with like every other incarn
if you end up holding signet for incarn you're better off playing hoc instead
severe hollow
look at cs diff lol
actually now we can see cs
only mid is kinda big
but cs dif isnt actually all that large
sudden pawn
dolan trolled gg
vital hound
ya
cloud plover
sion senna 
lucid olive
not being allowed to ff pro games is a mistake
cloud plover
not being allowed to ff pro games is a mistake
it's not banned no?
lucid olive
ye you get fined if you ff
lucid olive
omg its the rank 1 feral druid on the broadcast
severe hollow
furry propaganda
stiff spear
for balance, is it troll to craft two 681 rings with both haste/mastery stats?
cloud plover
for balance, is it troll to craft two 681 rings with both haste/mastery stats?
yes
itll translate well into new patch but for now it is
stiff spear
itll translate well into new patch but for now it is
what should i craft instead? as stats
vital hound
ask the robot
stiff spear
im trying to gear my boomy for s3
stiff spear
ask the robot
oh like a stat priority run?
vital hound
sim it
severe hollow
where is eu on the boomy rankings tho
maiden pasture
for balance, is it troll to craft two 681 rings with both haste/mastery stats?
considering circlet isnt beat by any mythic ring right now, ofc
stiff spear
heroic jastors*
maiden pasture
the only gear decision for s3 u might wanna make right now is not relying on a cloak to have embelishment because raid cloak
lucid olive
i just crafted 5 items today so i have something to flex embellishment on early season
maiden pasture
when are we doing weeklies gamz
lucid olive
are u on for season release
severe hollow
he did not look happy
maiden pasture
are u on for season release
nah i mean my 3rd druid needs crests
lucid olive
yeah i aint logging in outside of raid before patch hits
maiden pasture
boost specialist
vital hound
severe hollow
I find it interesting that pro sivirs tend to go essence reaver
lucid olive
or well, logged in to spend 10 minutes getting 1000 market research today and got trenchcoat
maiden pasture
I find it interesting that pro sivirs tend to go essence reaver
just had this convo like
30 mins ago
lemme copy paste what i put
maiden pasture
yun tal bigger one item spike
ER nice cause of crit
u pick sivir because u want to get good wave clear when u might not be ableto answer a lane perfectly
not to unga bunga fight one item
maiden pasture
for fight it for sure is
vital hound
er is also vibes
severe hollow
you dont have 25% crit
on 1 item spike
you have maybe 5
possibly not even that
or oh wait
I understand what you mean
yea 25% crit is way better
then the passive
severe hollow
25% crit
is 25% more dmg
just straight up
30% as even with 100% uptime is less then that
like its not close
vital hound
what a fight
severe hollow
25% crit and 5 more AD to lose that passive
you forgot to mention that yun tal has AS and ER ability haste
severe hollow
why would u ever go yun tal
because its a lot stronger when full stacked
like 1.5 item spike
its also stronger once you have blue buff
mana regen from ER is fairly fast useless
yun tal also gives AS when ER gives cdr, the cdr is also not particularly useful once you have navori
vital hound
wth was that
severe hollow
that was so weird
severe hollow
rumble 11
severe hollow
gg
severe hollow
wtf did faker do there
maiden pasture
bro they dont even need this faker guy
vital hound
faker? more like frauder
lofty depot
wtf did faker do there
doran ran at them and then they died
thats what happened
press r win game
severe hollow
doran ran at them and then they died
nah talking about his tp into recall
but yea this is
ogre
lofty depot
its all ogre
maiden pasture
renata goes kinda crazy when u dont pair her with kallistdog
cloud plover
dog
severe hollow
that renata r
lofty depot
4 game series is fine
lofty depot
its game 4 tho
shrewd pivot
guma didn't even do anything on that jinx game, keria spoon fed. So its up to him more than jinx
cloud plover
it's over after that so its game 5
frigid rover
nice save
lofty depot
genggggggggggggg
lofty depot
massive $15 profit
lofty depot
this draft format
makes for way more fun gameplay
merry crow
took them way too long to go to double elim too
merry crow
double can take the hype out of results like when g2 beat rng in worlds for sure
merry crow
what da helly
cloud plover
gg t1 i guess
lofty depot
so weird
lofty depot
feels like they just left him multiple times
lofty depot
well that baron fight, oner and doran go and everyone just running back to mid
vital hound
yea
shrewd pivot
almost had the reset on chovy
cloud plover
all cuz they dont put faker on kassa or zed
surely he go 1v5 clutch
on good champs
vital hound
geng super controlled as well
shrewd pivot
that was literally perfect
vital hound
they just take picks
cloud plover
perish
vital hound
and go next
shrewd pivot
ults away from mf ult into an aatrox
cloud plover
gn league chat
shrewd pivot
dumb question, but for ptr, in order to carry over dryads to the next incarn, do you just need to wait to incarn until 50 seconds left is on the next charge
hollow mist
gn league chat
good night puppy
lofty depot
dumb question, but for ptr, in order to carry over dryads to the next incarn, do...
sure
most of the time u liekly use at the end of said incarn
and/or they change it and u can only use it like that
lofty depot
well u dont need to worry about the cd of incarn
the buff lasts 45 seconds u need to use it before it hits 0 its really not that deep to think u would just press incarn at like 5-6-7 seconds left on buff starfall 2 times then trees and send
shrewd pivot
don't you? you want the dryad to extend to the next incarn, so if you incarn and your next charge is like 1:10 away
it won't last
in keys mainly where you wont start with 2 charges all the time
shrewd pivot
wouldn't extending just be better? assuming it stays like that
on bosses, not trash that will die
lofty depot
i assume its not staying like that
but it also depends how they fix the buff
adding some like logic to it and adding something like "next 2 surges in THIS ca"
but idk depends how they change it
i assume they fix any/all of the degen things ur currently doing
elder remnant
That's hopeful
lofty depot
I'm garym not hopeful
north sparrow
For M+ for one button do we use Elunes or keeper?
drifting nova
you swap feral
strange loom
doing just 10-13 key with my balance druid, but feel so weak all mobs die so fast and i didnt even ramp up. what key do you play Elune? just doing 3.5 over all in Prio.
teal minnow
doing just 10-13 key with my balance druid, but feel so weak all mobs die so fa...
elune in all keys. what is your comp as it may be a case of key too low and youre just losing, rightfully, to burst classes
also numbers in isolation isnt a guide indicator, if you have logs, even better
strange loom
https://raider.io/characters/eu/blackhand/Nironi
im not even sure if my stats are right, if s1 chan check on it would be nice
i go pug in keys currently, and dont have logs
and how to you make sure you dot everything? in big pulls there are so many healthbars moving around
spice roost
https://raider.io/characters/eu/blackhand/Nironi
im not even sure if my stats a...
shows ur feral this is balance channel
teal minnow
yeah but you can click through and see theyre talking about this run in particular: https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-tww-2/22223371-10-priory-of-the-sacred-flame
strange loom
shows ur feral this is balance channel
ooh 😛 yeah i tested something just with same gear i did same dmg in feral was bit weard to me ^^ give me a sec
spice roost
ooh 😛 yeah i tested something just with same gear i did same dmg in feral was...
it doesnt matter just sim your gear
strange loom
im pretty bad at simming, some settings i have to put in so it shows wrong stats?
only thing i made is compare 2 items for example
teal minnow
im pretty bad at simming, some settings i have to put in so it shows wrong stats...
erm, yeah, you may be doing something odd here, you can sim topgear with 1 boss 5 mins and itll suggest things gear wise
without logs its hard to help with some specifics
and how to you make sure you dot everything? in big pulls there are so many healthbars moving around
personally, mouseover macros and i dot as its gathered or i get prio mobs then send cooldowns
strange loom
https://raider.io/characters/eu/blackhand/Nironi up to date now, but i will learn how to simm
spice roost
https://raider.io/characters/eu/blackhand/Nironi up to date now, but i will lear...
ya sim cause the rest is irrelevant
stray cedar
how is balance on next raid with set
pseudo merlin
still too soon to say
tame dome
It looks like the tier set is going to synergise particularly well with elune hero talents and won't complicate the rotation. Am I huffing?
teal minnow
still too soon to say
People don't want this pragmatism, they want something that's pinned and decided on in absence of numbers or logic or fact
So, how's balance next patch?
pseudo merlin
its for sure over
scenic mist
It looks like the tier set is going to synergise particularly well with elune he...
EC tier set doesn’t change your current M+ gameplay, yes
teal minnow
its for sure over
@stray cedar ☝️ soz bud
tame dome
EC tier set doesn’t change your current M+ gameplay, yes
sweeeet
I sure hope that EC is going to be very viable in raid too 😄
scenic mist
I sure hope that EC is going to be very viable in raid too 😄
viable isnt a thing in 2025
as everything is viable
only depends on your goal
tame dome
I guess viable to me would be getting 90+ parses
as that would suggest it isn't too far behind keeper
cloud plover
I guess viable to me would be getting 90+ parses
if u good u could do a 90 without tier set tbh
tame dome
if u good u could do a 90 without tier set tbh
Do you think EC could get 90 parses vs keeper without tier?
pseudo merlin
I guess viable to me would be getting 90+ parses
idk if id call that viable
Viable depends on the content you do
You a heroic raider?
Everything is viable
tame dome
yeah, I get you - I'm saying what I meant by asking whether it was viable
tame dome
like for example if I look at warcraft logs for mugzee
not a single elune parse in the top 1000
pseudo merlin
mythic mugzee?
tame dome
ye
tame dome
cos you prefer the playstyle and theme
pseudo merlin
Preference isn't a thing people take into account on a fight like mugzee
Check HC logs instead
lucid olive
Heroic parses are a weird metric cause the bottom half are all buyers
tame dome
yeah so if the top parse is 86
pseudo merlin
We dont know how tuning will end up for next season yet anyway
tame dome
that's below 90
tame dome
yes
lucid olive
That's decent
pseudo merlin
you know rank 86 isnt 86th percentile right
tame dome
I don't know what you mean by percentile - I said 90 parse
tame dome
pseudo merlin
thats a 76
tame dome
that's mythic number 1 EC parse
pseudo merlin
gotcha
tame dome
no wait
scenic mist
it means he beat 76% of the moonkin playerbase on this fight, not that he has the 76th best performance
tame dome
how viable is EC likely to be in raid, and showing that what I mean by 'viable' is getting 90 parse +
pseudo merlin
So you might be able to improve on that
scenic mist
how viable is EC likely to be in raid, and showing that what I mean by 'viable' ...
90+ parse in hm or mm ?
pseudo merlin
I just dont want to answer that question because it fundamentally disagrees with how normal people think of viable
And also
We can not possibly know
So like
?
tame dome
90+ parse in hm or mm ?
either tbh
pseudo merlin
Based on a very small data set ATM it looks like it wouldnt be even close to viable according to your reasoning
Ashitaka is French
not answering the question
and its HC
not HM
😠
scenic mist
dude i swear i go right now in hm and do more than 90 parse on everyboss with ec
pseudo merlin
No?
scenic mist
yes
scenic mist
hm parses are filled with trash
scenic mist
yes
tame dome
log it then 😛
scenic mist
icba
pseudo merlin
What about Roi du Chrome?
tame dome
prove to me that it's capable of 90 parse
scenic mist
prove to me that it's capable of 90 parse
i dont have to prove you anything
pseudo merlin
Chaudron du carnage?
jade flume
1mil gold and i'll play it
pseudo merlin
Vexie et les ecrouabouiilles?
scenic mist
wont play this dog herospec in raid
pseudo merlin
ok buddy
scenic mist
so it's expected they gonna parse bad
tame dome
this is viable
scenic mist
I don't think you can beat 去吧丷皮卡丘
jade flume
this is viable
i think as long as u hit the ilvl to queue for lfr you are viable for it
pseudo merlin
wait that's lfr
tame dome
ofc lol
no way I'm ever gonna get logs liike that on anything higher than lfr
but yeah if the best logs for EC on heroic mode and mythic mode are so low
that's sad
scenic mist
no way I'm ever gonna get logs liike that on anything higher than lfr
for sure you wont ever parse 100 with ec in raid yeah
scenic mist
i mean, "ever" is a big word but you get the idea
pseudo merlin
New one is unknown
But I wouldn't expect Blizzard to suddenly want to swap the hero spec niches
But they might be more closely tuned
tame dome
mm that would be interesting
pseudo merlin
Maybe if light of elune had a significantly higher proc chance on single target
and then followed SQRT scaling
hard wyvern
Also consider that generally the best players are not playing ec in the raid. The data will be negatively skewed
obsidian tapir
tame dome
at this point I feel like they should get people who like that level of infuriatingly complex messyness to go play games like Trap Adventure 2 and let wow start to return to the MMO that it always should have become
pseudo merlin
That's what normal mode is for
I don't see the issue
LFR/Normal are on the level of like burning crusade raids
lucid olive
main difficulty in LFR is your group
i queued LFR last week to finish some dinar quest on evoker and gave up after 2 bosses, people just sprint right into a boss room and pull the boss with no thought of who's with them
ended up doing cauldron with like 8 people and the rest all standing outside
pallid bay
but yeah if the best logs for EC on heroic mode and mythic mode are so low
they're that bad cause the players playing EC are that bad
EC isnt as bad as their performance
dense steeple
<@143129233860984832> I feel like ive already earned like 100k
100k gold like just from farming?
pseudo merlin
nice
pseudo merlin
im doing amirdrassil open world druid forms now
dense steeple
dense steeple
yeah
pseudo merlin
are these amirdrassil rare druid forms on a h2 respawn?
can you farm or once day/week
dense steeple
week
dense steeple
weekly 🙂
pseudo merlin
bruh
When playing the game the right way becomes making mmultiple of the same class
devs did something very wrong
tame dome
agreed
or... levelling entirely new characters just so you can try to farm a specific travel form
shy adder
Is cyrcle circlet still one of our rings in S3?
pseudo merlin
no
pseudo merlin
surely theyre not going to let that be a thing
royal zenith
would be epic
lucid olive
fathomdweller is nerfed on ptr
royal zenith
sadge
weary crow
Currently trying to finish timing 19s and pushing for title, one of my group members was mentioning seeing some boomkins playing convoke in TOP, any insight on this? I tried looking through logs and didn’t see anybody playing it.
scenic mist
Currently trying to finish timing 19s and pushing for title, one of my group mem...
ask them ?
weary crow
I did, they don’t know. That’s why I’m here.
weary crow
You’re helpful.
weary crow
I didn’t think so, that’s why I asked. I’ve looked at the same data ashitaka posted. I came to the same conclusion as you all. However, I’m confident enough to realize I’m not the best and sometimes there are small things that matter a lot at the highest level. Sorry for wasting your time.
lofty depot
u didnt waste time
weary crow
Fucking crazy bro
scenic mist
I didn’t think so, that’s why I asked. I’ve looked at the same data ashitaka pos...
no time wasted
lofty depot
someone in your group wasted your time by not showing data and spewing
scenic mist
someone in your group wasted your time by not showing data and spewing
this
lofty depot
probably the mage
scenic mist
lofty depot
please confirm
royal zenith
maybe focus on the fact he's trying to figure it out by himself
which is a good thing
lofty depot
nope, focus on the spewer
scenic mist
maybe focus on the fact he's trying to figure it out by himself
i dont see anywhere arctic or i being derogatory
royal zenith
lofty depot
can i get a confirm on the spewer?
lucid olive
idk don't think anybody meant to be rude
weary crow
^^
lofty depot
known rude person
weary crow
What am I confirming?
lofty depot
who the spewer was telling u to play convoke
lucid olive
who cares
weary crow
You want me to out my friend that is just offering something to our group that they saw in a key? They might have been playing with a bad boomkin. They said “I don’t know but I saw it” so I did what I’m supposed to do and researched it.
Why the fuck would i need to validate anything to you?
lucid olive
it's not that deep just ignore arctic
unique portal
damn bro why crash out
weary crow
The guy has pinged me 3 times and I’ve attempted to leave the conversation.
scenic mist
i was just trolling
You're helpful.
weary crow
I didn’t answer him the first 2 times on purpose.
lofty depot
could just leave and not answer
royal zenith
asap is literally in the right here
lofty depot
tragic
lucid olive
its literally just arctic
royal zenith
oh yeah I know
lofty depot
gr
prime ingot
are there any shenanigans on this pull or is this just a thing boomkin can do next tier? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/W2dCgpG4DTkv3ZN9?fight=23&type=damage-done&pull=8&translate=true
lucid olive
are there any shenanigans on this pull or is this just a thing boomkin can do ne...
carried the 4pc buff from previous pack into boss
then sent it with treants + incarn when they came up
prime ingot
that's not like a bug tho right, just playing optimally?
lucid olive
and yeah that'll be a thing we can do next tier assuming its not nerfed
4pc buff lasts 45 seconds
the only bug with the tier set is that it should be doing more damage
prime ingot
so as long as you don't press starsurge again you can hold the buff for 45s?
lucid olive
ye
prime ingot
seems like a very generous window
lucid olive
and with talents giving CA a 90s recharge you can do that for 3 consecutive windows
and play it like a 1 min 30 ramp
swift dove
i heard there are purges coming
lofty depot
seems like a very generous window
it can get worse too.. hes still using trees before incarn here
when u could hold them for 3 seconds so it goes into the buff window for the final 2 aswell so u would then get 4 giga buffed surges
swift dove
carried the 4pc buff from previous pack into boss
if this is too good it would get spymasters treatment and reset on combat no?
lofty depot
if this is too good it would get spymasters treatment and reset on combat no?
assume they would just lower the buff duration rather than add a flag like that
lucid olive
if this is too good it would get spymasters treatment and reset on combat no?
It's m+ lol
swift dove
Ahh fair.
lofty depot
It's m+ lol
dreamstate resets
swift dove
Buff duration impacts dryad damage or does buff start once dryad has done their important business
lofty depot
Buff duration impacts dryad damage or does buff start once dryad has done their ...
it doesnt impact dryad damage
dryad currently doesnt do damage
lucid olive
When the Dryad despawns you gain the buff for 45 seconds
lofty depot
also buff means the after dryad duration. Dryads Favor
swift dove
ok gotcha thanks for clarifying
lofty depot
which is the 45 second buff
prime ingot
reading the tier set feedback, is there a dmg cap for the dryad buff?
lucid olive
Yes
lofty depot
5% of total damage done in 10 seconds, capped to 50% of your hp at despawn
yes u can buff said hp
prime ingot
how are these starsurges hitting for like 200M?
lucid olive
modifiers
lofty depot
cuz that damage isnt just added at the end
royal zenith
jb are you actively trying to get us nerfed?!
lofty depot
hes trying to play boomkin next season
prime ingot
I'm trying to decide if I should delete my rdruid for next season
lucid olive
If you have 14m hp when the Dryad despawns your cap will be 7m, then you add modifiers like Moonkin Form + CA + Treants + class tree magic dmg stuff
etc
prime ingot
I guess I'm wildly underestimating what these mods are doing
lucid olive
The gameplay is basically how consistent can you be at hitting the cap and also hope the Starsurge crits
fervent merlin
No shot it goes live like this
prime ingot
I mean it's just a repackaged venthyr playstyle, moonkin has done this shit before
lucid olive
There should be a cap, but the cap should be like arbitrary "you should never hit this", and then the actual effect should be its own damage entity applied on Starsurge hitting the target, so they're able to whitelist what modifers it should scale with
lucid olive
yeah the cap should just be to prevent degen shit like going into Stockades and hitting a 2 billion cap and then zoning into raid and Rextroying the bosses
cause if you accept a summon when the Dryad is still alive you zone into raid with the buff
same as if you die to raid boss when the Dryad is up you ress with the 4pc buff
prime ingot
"pool bunch of dmg, pop it on one target" is inherently broken as shit in m+ but won't look crazy in raid
lofty depot
"pool bunch of dmg, pop it on one target" is inherently broken as shit in m+ but...
it can
lucid olive
yeah it can be an issue
fervent merlin
Except venthyr u didn’t go bear form to multiply ur dam lol
lucid olive
you didn't use the cheat venthyr macro and it shows
lofty depot
"u didnt go bear form"
fervent merlin
Yea I fotm hopped once tettles got me into kyr u right
fervent merlin
?
royal zenith
tettles kyr was season 1
fervent merlin
Yea
lofty depot
he said kyr thing s1
fervent merlin
So I didn’t play boomy s1 or s2
lofty depot
and then night fae s2 🙂
royal zenith
but we did bearform back then yeah
lucid olive
entering form and canceling form was 2 stacks right?
royal zenith
well not just form, you needed hasted bearform
lucid olive
the macro would like incap roar, cancel, stampede, cancel etc and give buncha stacks in like 3 globals
lofty depot
iirc ye
lucid olive
don't remember
fervent merlin
I only remember spamming dispel at start of key
lofty depot
i rememebr the incap roar stampeed shit but cant remember fully
lofty depot
only 39, smh
quiet drift
entering form and canceling form was 2 stacks right?
Roars were for some reason counted as 2 spells
lucid olive
just remember recording the video to show other moonkin in guild
quiet drift
The shapeshift and the spell itself
lucid olive
oh yeah that was it
lucid olive
loved furor
lofty depot
furor 😭
lucid olive
that Eranog raid testing was so much fun
lofty depot
then they brought it back and nerfed it
lucid olive
the group i was in couldnt hold aggro for shit cause 3 moonkins were just spamming a macro and doing way too much dam
obsidian flicker
pseudo merlin
take me back
vale pebble
shrewd pivot
that's not like a bug tho right, just playing optimally?
similar vibes to that
no bug, just timing cds
lofty depot
boomie man
shrewd pivot
it feels really good to pull off(obviously) but you can int it
but its pretty lenient
lofty depot
having a rewarding gameplay loop 
pseudo merlin
@dense steeple huge WA dropped
scarlet tapir
ur 2 weeks late
old idol
trying to get a helmet drop to cata it, what mythic dungeon should i run?
scarlet tapir
🤨
pseudo merlin
story of my life
ornate quest
Hi just wondering if I have WoE and FoE up but eclipse window is 2-3 seconds away from needing to refresh, do O hold them both and use it once im back in eclipse?
ornate quest
Gotcha, ty
quiet drift
WoE you wanna press also once youre out of Dreamstates
So itd be 1 Starfire in eclipse into WoE
2 if Incarn
signal temple
dense steeple
<@143129233860984832> huge WA dropped
dropped*** two weeks ago 🙂
pseudo merlin
😦
leaden estuary
need some help if someone has the time. I just got the Amulet of Earthen Craftsmanship and I have no idea what embellishments or gems to use. in short i have no idea how to set this up and everywhere i look it's something different. any help would be greatly appreciated
leaden estuary
thank you gotta be honest i've never heard of that site till now
dense steeple
its always the first to get updated
pseudo merlin
need some help if someone has the time. I just got the Amulet of Earthen Craftsm...
btw you know its new season in like 3 weeks right
lofty depot
btw you know its new season in like 3 weeks right
yea but i gotta be bis bis for week 0 m0s wtf
dense steeple
ionic oak
Bloodmallet to be optimized
frozen solar
Hey guys when do you swap between KOTG and EC builds inkeys? is there like a key level that below is KOTG is better
since things die faster
pseudo merlin
Bloodmallet to be optimized
What does this mean
pseudo merlin
Hey guys when do you swap between KOTG and EC builds inkeys? is there like a key...
When things die too fast for EC to be useful
has nothing to do with key level
frozen solar
fair fair
pseudo merlin
If you're pugging just go EC
If you've got friends to play with play KOTG until like idk 10-12
pallid bay
I guess I'm wildly underestimating what these mods are doing
its shrimple, imagine surge does 300% of your spellpower times any mods
now your surge does (300% of SP times mods) + (6M buff times mods)
pallid bay
https://www.twitch.tv/dsune_/clip/SneakyAstuteSmoothieTBCheesePull-icduZxNyNIAJ3...
man such a banger
frozen solar
If you've got friends to play with play KOTG until like idk 10-12
aye just did a 12 FL and felt the same mostly. mb im at the range its all the same.
last i did KOTG was in S1 with convoke
without it it 'feels' the same as EC
took the build form dreamgrove
pseudo merlin
I just played EC starting from 2s, was mostly playing with new players and alts so everyones dmg output was low enough for EC to be worth playing
frozen solar
aye fair
i just still had in my mind KOTG = convoke
im sure some ppl still run it
pseudo merlin
KOTG is convoke yes, still
oh right we're talking about m+ KOTG
yeah no convoke there
meager storm
not for long, rework on the next ptr blue post holy we are so back
MIGA
make incarn great again
meager storm
brotherman
meager storm
https://tenor.com/view/glorp-booty-shake-glorp-throwing-it-back-glorp-twerk-gif-15728514058189514652
mighty mica
shy void
https://tenor.com/view/glorp-booty-shake-glorp-throwing-it-back-glorp-twerk-gif-...
is this you irl
meager storm
maybe
shy void
very nice work
pseudo merlin
lofty depot
meager storm
signal temple
wicked flax
do you still need to starfall in ST for the new tier set to be good?
maiden pasture
its good without that shit
manic plume
yeah but you can juice it the heck up right
maiden pasture
u can just chain CAs
lofty depot
yeah but you can juice it the heck up right
theres a cap to the damage
so u can juice all of them regardless
and theres plenty of people not doing starfall funny tech and doing good damage
meager storm
idk u tell me what is that
wicked flax
and theres plenty of people not doing starfall funny tech and doing good damage
oh thank god.. I was kinda dooming because my two characters right now are DK and druid, unholy looks like it's gunna be trash, and all frost DKs are forced to take breath.
lofty depot
fdk is fine
wicked flax
yeah but I hate breath
lofty depot
and doing funny tech stuff usually doesnt hit
and gets removed
but also, pressing starfall between cds is like the least techy thing weve done
lucid olive
what is this ?
a bad paint job
nova birch
idk u tell me what is that
why its chanage to 6 % ?
nova birch
ow starfall aoe maybe
lofty depot
using wrong dummies
nova birch
not use wrong dummy using, starfall damage pvp dummy maybe
nova birch
yea i think
lofty depot
belameth >
vital hound
revendreth >
celest narwhal
Ravenous frenzy ):
pseudo merlin
Lunarous Frenzy and Solarous Frenzy
lofty depot
Elunes Frenzy and Grove Frenzy
pseudo merlin
Send it
jovial hare
Elunes and An'shes frenzies
celest narwhal
that reminds me of a talent!
pseudo merlin
TM should be baseline
lofty depot
....
celest narwhal
why r you judging me now
lofty depot
spr has 2 shadow crashes on a 10cd and u want tm to hit 3 targets
celest narwhal
no
pseudo merlin
dream bigger
celest narwhal
im asking in TW bc of the leggo
lucid olive
you can't use old legendaries in TW anymore can you
thought they changed TW to scale up instead of you scaling down
celest narwhal
havent done a TW. not a clue
grizzled shoal
pseudo merlin
you can't use old legendaries in TW anymore can you
you cant ye
delicate perch
I can
vital hound
i can and i shall
delicate perch
shrewd pivot
To get fire chicken from tindral, do you need to be a Druid to loot it
lucid olive
yes
strong stone
How else would you find a chicken to set on fire?
pseudo merlin
lucid olive
ez
pseudo merlin
turns out I just had to run it on a warlock
celest narwhal
do you have to a certain dungeonlevel on ptr for it to scale u to 710 ilvl
lofty depot
idk if its specific but ik 10+ is scaled to it
celest narwhal
I was curious to see if any of the old old stuff in the game would also scale up to 710
to see if anything did some wild dmg for fun
sadlyt it does not
lofty depot
gonna .... u again
celest narwhal
IM JUST BORED ALRIGHT
lofty depot
go be bored on ptr and find the next cook
celest narwhal
next.. cook?
lofty depot
yea like whats for lunch
lofty depot
left over bbq
lofty depot
just buy the new gear
vital hound
left over bbq
hell yea
lucid olive
no rings D:
PvP vendor has jewelry
meager storm
my beloved
lofty depot
were middle of the pack buff plz
loud kettle
If ur not first ur last blud
ionic oak
lets blast :]
delicate perch
minigamers 
ornate quest
If im in the middle of dotting stuff in keys and have enough AP for starfall before using Cd, do I still press starfall or only when Im about to cap on AP while still dotting stuff?
ionic oak
will be s-tier
I like your enthusiasm. I need some of that
meager storm
They’re hiding something I know it
have u seen dhs
this is fine, immol aura as top dmg? nothing to see here
vital hound
minigamers <:PES_Sleep:647054811866464267>
these are your mates btw
delicate perch
these are your mates btw
hollow mist
minigamers....
dire osprey
sudden flame
I played balance for the first time on stix and apparently you don't play convoke on that boss? are you all filthy padders or what
pallid bay
yes
dire osprey
u just keybind starfall
sudden flame
whys my 2min convoke not doing damage to the boss
pallid bay
noob..
jade flume
Man i played convoke on stix yesterday
Apparently rik is not stix but i didnt realise when picking talents gg
meager storm
whenever u want to pick twin moons u drop natures balance
sudden flame
ye no idea why i have twin moons talented tbh it was just the build i had when i speced balance
still did more damage than i ever have on feral
twin lotus
u do 0:00 CA trees convoke , 0:30 CA trees, then 1:15 trees alone then 2:00 CA trees convoke. you probably desynced trees. Also convoke targets random shit so if the spells go on non-dotted things you miss out on mastery.
sudden flame
twin lotus
It's PTR + I had to do that in order to not delete a pylon
it's kinda tight to time it so you send giga starsurges during double damage phase
analog monolith
did somehting change with heart of the wild. most of not all moonkin videos/streams from ptr i watched use it
sudden flame
something to do with bear form hp pool effectiving the tier set damage
since its based on your total hp pool
@lucid olive correct or am i trolling
twin lotus
this feral is converting soon.
sudden flame
nah they are gutting this tier set massiverly and feral will rise from balances ashes
safe kite
did somehting change with heart of the wild. most of not all moonkin videos/stre...
DMG cap is based on max hp, you can push your max hp up using bear form
analog monolith
ah true, i hate that, hope they fix it
i mean i liked some degenerate gameplay in the past but nowadays blizz mostly changes stuff like that if that would be the optimal gameplay
sudden flame
it's kinda tight to time it so you send giga starsurges during double damage pha...
if im on araz as feral defo calling for a damage hold on the pylon phase
so 2min class acutally have cds
for the amp
analog monolith
is the startsurge dmg + 4pc dmg calculated on cast or on landing? i.e. do both starsurges need to hit while the treants are still active for 24% dmg or just cast befroe expiring
jade flume
Generally damage gets calculated on cast so i assume it would be the same
But i havent tested it and its blizz
pallid bay
on cast
robust vale
In s3 is kotg way to go for m+ ? Or still ec any news
scenic mist
In s3 is kotg way to go for m+ ? Or still ec any news
will know for sure in a month
for now you can play anything
kotg seems to bring good prio with 4p, but ec has better overall as far as i've seen
young ravine
Hi. Good morning. I wanted to ask about how much do your latency to the servers affect your DPS. Im a latam player and im used to play near 150-200ms so im wondering if this could be a factor on my average damage. If so any doods with similar problems have any tips?
pallid bay
in general it shouldnt cause an issue as long as its stable
cloud plover
tip: move to better place
delicate perch
like not america
hollow juniper
When doing small aoe (4-5 targets) when falling out of eclipse, do you prioritize getting to your next eclipse with wrath/starfire over keeping dots up? Or just continues with dots and let surge procs get you there?
lofty depot
If ur on 5 targets u should be starfalling and it keeps dots up
But yes, u want to spend the least amount of time outside of eclipse as possible
hollow juniper
Thats how i feel as well. So far i have mostly just transitioned to spamming wrath/starfire to get into my next eclipse as soon as it falls off. Even if it means my dots are falling off. Every guide will tell me not to though.
lofty depot
Well u u shouldn't be letting dots fall off
H shouldve redotted at the end of ur other eclipse
But again as stated, ur in AOE u should be spamming starfall and have no issues
scenic mist
Thats how i feel as well. So far i have mostly just transitioned to spamming wra...
with aetheral kindling talented, dots should never fall off
hollow juniper
I guess i should practice more. I usually get the problem when starting in Solar eclipse
scenic mist
I guess i should practice more. I usually get the problem when starting in Solar...
you shouldnt get in solar eclipse in an aoe situation
hollow juniper
As i spend my surge procs i guess i slowly transition out of lunar?
scenic mist
As i spend my surge procs i guess i slowly transition out of lunar?
wait are we speaking retail ?
hollow juniper
God damn, sorry for the confusion. I am in classic 😦
spice roost
LOL
scenic mist
lmao
lofty depot
...
spice roost
this is great
scenic mist
God damn, sorry for the confusion. I am in classic 😦
i sent a pm with the classic druid discord link
ask there 😉
hollow juniper
Thank you so much 🙂
spice roost
honeslty had me rolling
scenic mist
that was a fun interaction tho
dire osprey
haha
pseudo merlin
classic players LULW!
Can't wait for classic+ to come out with proper boomie tuning
That's gonne go so hard
I live for pressing starfire
scenic mist
I live for pressing starfire
but can you parse 90+ in EC ?
pseudo merlin
When I sort for EC, yes
scenic mist
pseudo merlin
have yall heard of the newest third world country?
scenic mist
werent those heatwaves only like 35 degrees or something
35 is the temperature of the air in the shadow
a road getting full sun value is getting way hotter
you've probably experienced how you cant walk barefoot on a road in the summer sun
dire osprey
ok it was 30 degrees apparently
yeah it was 38 degrees here like a week and a half ago
but our roads never melted lol
thats crazy
drifting nova
part of the road is slumped up the kerb from a few years ago
mostly because buses stop there
sinking into it
lucid olive
a road getting full sun value is getting way hotter
big solar value
lucid olive
have you ever thought about why solar eclipse increases nature damage
scenic mist
cause photosynthesis ig
lucid olive
considering a solar eclipse is the phase where the sun is covered
lofty depot
considering a solar eclipse is the phase where the sun is covered
Don't need to worry about that anymore cuz they're gonna delete it
sudden flame
the images are the wrong way around, if it was a solar eclipse the image should be of a dark moon and vice versa
lucid olive
i didn't realize it until i rewatched Last Airbender a year ago
they at least got it right
lofty depot
Blud said Last Airbender and not avatar
scenic mist
Blud said Last Airbender and not avatar
lofty depot
That's the fake avatar, made to make us forget about the real one
Stupid blue people
carmine vigil
avatar last airbender is bis
lofty depot
So true bestie
plucky valley
https://tenor.com/view/jake-sully-avatar-gif-27319717
Would
tawdry dune
is there any PTR build for M+ i can copy? 🙂
scenic mist
is there any PTR build for M+ i can copy? 🙂
current EC build and stix KOTG build iirc