balance

[exotic perch]

i have that with jiu jitsu

[vital hound]

get to go touch grass for 4 hours and get 14k steps in

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/e6IPdINnhrM.gif

[exotic perch]

ok thats a good gif

[vital hound]

honestly didnt know what i was getting into

isnt he from the sopranos

[exotic perch]

no thats joey diaz

comedian

[vital hound]

o

https://tenor.com/usGF1niCUcv.gif

WAKE UP AMERICA

[exotic perch]

yea im impressed he isnt dead yet

man has been living a very hard life

[vital hound]

ngl

id instantly go do some sniffing salts with the guy

feels like itd be an insane time

[exotic perch]

def a party time guy that would be a blast to hang out with like once every 6 months

more then that and nah

[vital hound]

agreed

he's your unemployed mate that once every 6 months

you take the bait and have a 3 day bender starting tuesday

[exotic perch]

cant be doing that much anymore im getting old

[vital hound]

death or glory spy

[nova ocean]

Big moonkin changes again this build

[true viper]

dryad still bugged

nice

[shrewd pivot]

What are they waiting for to nuke Kotg tier

[nova ocean]

They need to fix 2pc first we are just looking weaker then we should be for no reason

[crisp scaffold]

Bruh they nerf elune chosen

and buff fcking frost dk which was broken already

[nova ocean]

Frost dk was not broken

[shrewd pivot]

Fdk was not weak either

Not for those buffs

[nova ocean]

No it didn't need all that

But saying they didn't need anything was wrong

Considering fake raid buff

[shrewd pivot]

Dks don't get a pass to be overturned for life

[nova ocean]

Calm down it's a month till patch launch

[nova ocean]

Would rather not be topping ptr so there's not a target on ur back

[split orchid]

I panic every time I see a tuning post

I expect they will eventually neuter us like uhdk tbh

Did they fix the bug with the tier set just doing like 7x the starsurge damage it should be?

[nova ocean]

Ya last build

[rose aspen]

how did elunes even manage to catch a nerf ?

does the 4p even proc on ST

[nova ocean]

Cause it was good

[rose aspen]

or was it purely m+ tuning

[nova ocean]

The lunation thing was very good

Y wouldn't they tune around m+

[vital hound]

[lucid olive]

was it

now you can proc the 4pc at higher amount of 4pc stacks

[nova ocean]

Isn't more beams just better overall though

More uptime on damage amp

[marsh ridge]

similarly there are people with full mythic clears that bomb keys

[lofty depot]

u dont want to be bugged currently

[lucid olive]

thats a question for the robot

[lofty depot]

that just means they can fuck u 2 weeks before launch and then not change u til 11.2.5

[cloud plover]

thats me

[lucid olive]

is more stacks of dmg amp better than bigger uptime on low dmg amp

and there arent any sims available for the tier sets so

[cloud plover]

chat how did bamkin dodge again

[nova ocean]

We just need to wait now for them too look at how good or bad we do this week on testing

They are clearly trying to figure out our tier set they don't understand first

Can't tune us till they get that done

[lucid olive]

the EC tier set still procs Goldrinn

even though they said in their initial blue post it didn't

good job dev

[rose aspen]

i wonder if we get a full rework for the keeper set

[lofty depot]

too late for full rework

unless they jsut make it some passive bull shit

[lucid olive]

not gonna rework something that releases in less than a month

[dire garnet]

Can i clarify something? i only starsurge if its 1 mob right? starfall 2+?

[lofty depot]

in raid st talents no

if u run kindling yes

[rose aspen]

pepelaugh theyre about too hit us with the wrath generates +6AP and starsurge dmg is increased by 25% set

[vital hound]

chatgpt*

[dire garnet]

for M+ build

[lucid olive]

if you talent aetherial kindling you starfall on 2 targets

or well, starfall on 2 targets is damage neutral if you use aetherial kindling

[dire garnet]

do we use fury of elune before casting 2x wrath? or 2x wrath first then FOE?

[limpid anchor]

yoyo guys when u sim your char for m+ do you use the standard patchwerk 5 min simulation option or do you go for dungeon slice?

[lucid olive]

patchwerk 1 target 5 minute or MDT Sim

read the FAQ part in Compendium for more fleshed out answer

Compendium is linked in channel description and pinned messages

[lofty depot]

are u tlaking on a boss fight or

[clever vigil]

W change Bear Form’s threat generation multiplier has been reduced for Balance, Feral, and Restoration Druids.

[lofty depot]

rip didnt fix dryad

was hoping for the non-blue post fix

[lofty depot]

ur like 10 weeks late blud

go back to shit posting on twitter

[clever vigil]

Wtf

[lofty depot]

[clever vigil]

😔

[little latch]

Anyone know if someone is cooking up a weakaura to track KOTG new tier set?

[lofty depot]

u dont need to cook it

is very easy

duplicate a weakaura, put the spell id in it

up here

[little latch]

I figured you just go through the rotation normally but I’d like to have one to track when the dryad disappears so I can throw the 2 starsurges instead of spending AP on starfall.

[lofty depot]

well it counts down from 10 to 0

and 0 means its gone

buff boomkin

[safe kite]

literally unplayable

[spice roost]

just play better right?

wasnt it u that said that

[lofty depot]

thats not me so true just play better

[vital hound]

skrill issue

[elder remnant]

Did we get shot?

[lofty depot]

"we" no

[iron chasm]

Only EC which is funny

[maiden pasture]

it will be a full rework and not a nerf, so will take longer

thats my opinion at least

[elder remnant]

Why EC that’s so weird

[lucid olive]

Define full rework

Release is less than a month

They won't have time for any big changes

[dense steeple]

because EC is gross

[maiden pasture]

its a heavy bear nerf aswell tbf

[dense steeple]

yall wanna see an impressive mog game

[maiden pasture]

bears were having 100% uptime on lunar beam

[elder remnant]

Yeeeeeah idk why anyone would think anything is getting a meaningful, balanced change in a month

[elder remnant]

Well I assumed we copped it because of bear

[maiden pasture]

yeah i think

the nerf was targetted more at bear

us getting more fury of elunes wasnt really a problem

it was unintended

but not a balancing problem

[elder remnant]

That makes sense the tier set was broken for them

Very strong

[maiden pasture]

but idk they need to change something big about the tierset, idk what they can do an test in the month to come

[maiden pasture]

but something needs to hapen

[elder remnant]

But yeah idk I feel like we either go live like this or they overcompensate because they don’t have time to fix the playstyle and we get gutted

[maiden pasture]

i think the issue with gutting is like

even if they make it so we do no damage

the problem of the tierset is still there with how frontloaded it is

[elder remnant]

It’s still the same playstyle yeah

[maiden pasture]

and the starfall shit

[lucid olive]

Definitely

[maiden pasture]

they are cooking some way to nerf moonkin

who knows what it'll be

[elder remnant]

So we’re either miserable but doing dam or miserable and playing another spec because Boomie is feral levels of bad

[maiden pasture]

i mean i hate this fkn

super charged surge shit

even if it wasnt for starfalling on single target

[elder remnant]

Yeah I have been against it since they started the cook

[maiden pasture]

even if u just had to do double CA

its the same issue venthyr had

critting is way too important

and doing nothing outside of ur burst is just sad

[elder remnant]

Very boring burst playstyle and if you get mechanic or movement during the window it feels infinitely worse

And it’s more gamba than the class trinkets were in DF

[maiden pasture]

[elder remnant]

Pray my belt, trinket, crit lines up perfectly or gg

[modern spire]

what disc belt buff does boomy use in raid?

[elder remnant]

Sim it probably

[dense steeple]

the pinned one

[formal crest]

Ty for this information

[lucid olive]

The one that sims the best for your character

[maiden pasture]

theyre all quite close together

vers mast and haste

[lucid olive]

Vers, crit, haste and mast are all close enough for the swing to depend on your character

[maiden pasture]

all within 0.2% normally

gg crit too

[elder remnant]

I think vers belt had the biggest RNG value tho

If you get vers proc in cds very good

[lucid olive]

Nah that's gotta be crit

[elder remnant]

Really?

[lucid olive]

Crit has no value unless you roll a crit innit

[maiden pasture]

yeah

vers is

if u roll vers u do more dam

crit is

if u roll it AND you crit you do more

double proccing the gamba

[elder remnant]

Big gamba but also building the crit I guess you could game it on cds

Vers is kind of press CDs and hope

[lucid olive]

Yeah idk I haven't done any other delve than the vers one

[elder remnant]

If you’re already in a crit build up when CDs come up it’d be like Christmas

[lucid olive]

Not logging in for anything other than running Antorus and farming Darkfuse rep

I am 600 market research away surely tomorrow is the day

[elder remnant]

Who cares can blizzard stop giving us dogshit mid season patch items we never take off

[lucid olive]

No

[maiden pasture]

i wish

i cared enough to do the darkfuse rep

its so good

[elder remnant]

Also if they turbo boost again I’m going to throw things

[lucid olive]

Just wait for next patch when it's 100% increase

[maiden pasture]

source?

[elder remnant]

Darkfuse the one for the cloak mog?

[lucid olive]

Blue post from yesterday

All DF and TWW renown tracks get 100% increase

[maiden pasture]

ye

black cloak dress thingy

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/4lrE.gif

[lucid olive]

It's from the date announcement

Darkfuse wasn't that bad tbh I just joined a group and then put on a movie

[maiden pasture]

yeah but like

why do that

when i can play the bazaar

[lucid olive]

Fair

[elder remnant]

Play the bazaar?

[lucid olive]

It's some auto chess game afaik

[elder remnant]

I want my mysterious goth cloak

[maiden pasture]

reynads version of hearthstone battlegrounds

[dense steeple]

why farm darkfuse now when its doubly effective later

staggies profit again

just got an eye of kezan in vault is this thing good

[exotic perch]

even better on aug 3rd

with dmf and the buff

darkfuse go fast

[dense steeple]

do you guys think i can get another one before the tiers over

[lucid olive]

Cause i was 600 market research away when they announced it

Not gonna stop now

And it's darkmoon faire this week so I'll just finish it up tomorrow

Also the goblins perma spawn on the Darkfuse farm spot so I get some free hellshards to buy transmogs for

[dense steeple]

nicenice

[elder remnant]

Good thing about playing every spec of your class is there’s always upgrades

[drifting nova]

theres other specs?

[rough marten]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-season-3-mythic-titles-in-patch-11-2-the-unbound-377690 fuck dude they got me

the title is too good

my guild is <Bound> so I legally have too

hopefully druid is not fotm fotm but middle of the pack good so I dont have to fight all the rerollers this szn

[delicate perch]

is title changing

because it is not class/spec it is overall

[rough marten]

yeah but im a boomkin main

before all the fotm rats came in

[delicate perch]

[rough marten]

[delicate perch]

why would you want to be middle of the pack when you are then competing with the "meta" specs

are you american

[vital hound]

definitely is

zuljin player

[delicate perch]

[lyric kettle]

[delicate perch]

[rich jewel]

🦅

[signal temple]

Well just _ the Unbound is 1500 rating, unless you mean _ the Unbound Hero

[rough marten]

be good but not bis > get invited still
be bis > fight 30 other boomkin rerollers

[severe hollow]

[rough marten]

bit of a pain either way, but i'd rather stand on my own merits and get invited vs fighting rerollers

personally

[delicate perch]

pugging to title

you're fighting mental illness before invites

[rough marten]

true and real

and yet here I am on my 3rd season of doing it, always saying I wont do it again and then suddenly a good title

[placid vault]

is tier set still bugged for balance?

[spice roost]

yes it afks still

[meager storm]

tier in 1 month btw 🔥

they tune around it, we are still ok ish then fix the set and we are top of the meters

holy

we are so back

[spice roost]

i want what hes having

[rich jewel]

[tidal flicker]

The Workshop staff is worse for us than a crafter 681 Staff right ?

[teal sphinx]

What's wrong with that

[delicate perch]

[meager storm]

iirc yes, but sim to make sure

[lofty depot]

crafted is 2nd best weapon

mBIS is first

[twin flax]

Is our single target dmg on the PTR better? I cant test atm due to being swamped with work atm

[lofty depot]

shits still bugged ask in a week

[twin flax]

Ok. Maybe at that point I am also ablebto test myself 🙂 thanks for the headsup. Have a great day

[delicate perch]

I will not do that

[vital hound]

[crisp scaffold]

not top 5 anyway

[cursive mirage]

tbt

[lofty depot]

[crisp scaffold]

bruh we gotta keep balance good

[cursive mirage]

too late king

[twin flax]

I dont care about top 5. I just dont want to be bottom 5 🙂

[spice roost]

ptr is down maybew they are fixing boomie tier lol

[clever ibex]

They nerfed lunation cdr? Fml

[crisp scaffold]

Yep imagine

[meager storm]

wasnt intended

[spice roost]

its funny how so many nerfs end up being thing s that are not intended according to blizz

[meager storm]

they said goldrinn shouldnt proc and its proccing on the surge proc

so ig lunation wasnt intended either

they are prob fixing goldrinn after

[lofty depot]

fixing ec tier while no one is playing it and not fixing kotg

make it make sense :/

[clever ibex]

I guess people will play ec in m+ once dryad is fixed

but who knows

[cyan flicker]

So, i followed the pins as instructed to "sim for corruptions" and it is saying that twilight dev is better than void ritual? I assume this isn't realistically the case?

[meager storm]

[lofty depot]

dryad being fixed would help kotg

they would have to nerf the damage the set does not "fix" dryad

[lofty depot]

its realistic if u stand in melee prob

[spice roost]

i doubt he understands how its even broken

[lofty depot]

well hes guessing so who knows

[clever ibex]

I guess I don’t

[spice roost]

it literly afks

does no damage

if they fix it it will do damage

[vital hound]

incorrect

it starfalls once

[spice roost]

well ok but practicly nothing

[vital hound]

damn why you hating on starfall

its doing its best

[spice roost]

lol

[cyan flicker]

so if i optimise my positioning it will be marginally better but if i want simplicity and the "safer" (not needing to be in melee) option then just stick with void ritual?

[lofty depot]

should just play void

[cyan flicker]

yeah i will stick to void, thank you 🙂

[cunning bronze]

Are someone farming Nyalotha for the seer mount? i did it on all my chars in Uldum last week, but i cant see the raid in pandaria this week? Why is this happening, something i need to do?

[drifting nova]

it swaps

locations

you'd be in the wrong phase of mop

[cunning bronze]

how do we change, or where

[drifting nova]

between the two moon bases

the library

talk to

think it's chromie

funnily enough

[cunning bronze]

I went to chromie on the balcony, but could not interact

[drifting nova]

on the left as you look in

maybe its chromie, the npc has a light on them

[cunning bronze]

Its close to the mogushan palance dung?

[drifting nova]

yeah the libary balcony

[cunning bronze]

I tried talk with chromie, but could not interact

diddnt give me any options

[drifting nova]

zidormi

the glowy one

[cunning bronze]

No one is glowing 😮

[drifting nova]

hmm

[cunning bronze]

can u send me screen of him

[drifting nova]

maybe youve not done the quest

[cunning bronze]

But i saw the raid in Uldum?

did on all chars last week

[drifting nova]

wait are you horde or ally

[cunning bronze]

Ally

[drifting nova]

welp, she should be there then

[cunning bronze]

Send me print, where she is

[drifting nova]

the balcony

near cho

for ally anyway

apparantly she's in the moon base

for horde

[cunning bronze]

ill fly over again

[drifting nova]

do you have a titanic problem

the quest

assuming you've done the correct quest zidormi should be the npc that can swap between phases

was too long ago cant remember if uldum and vale are the same quest chain

or differnet

[cunning bronze]

I only see chromie

on the balc

and her dragon

[drifting nova]

there has never in the history of media been a good display of time travel

this is just another case to prove that

idk

[cunning bronze]

This is all i see

[drifting nova]

check 56537 in a quest macro

[cunning bronze]

what

[drifting nova]

/script print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(56537))

run that

in chat

[cunning bronze]

false

[drifting nova]

ok good as that should be done

58991 instead

[cunning bronze]

Ok so ive not done the quest?

[drifting nova]

replace the number in the bracket

[cunning bronze]

False

[drifting nova]

idk half these previously required quests were removed

but yeah you're not far enough in for vale yet

[cunning bronze]

dafuq

idk where to start

[drifting nova]

56376

[cunning bronze]

False

[drifting nova]

but you've done uldum?

assault and all

[cunning bronze]

Yeah clearly, since i did it in uldum on all chars last week

[drifting nova]

that quest is the uldum unlock

[cunning bronze]

LOL

[drifting nova]

hell if I know

scuffed quest chain

maybe they moved zidormi to the moon base

but for me she's always been on the balcony

somehow worse than the one power shitshow in legion for a quest chain

idk how

[lucid olive]

happy to see kekkers being helpful

[drifting nova]

I have my limits

and they are blizzards stupidity

ruined my night already

[lucid olive]

night blud

its 9am

[drifting nova]

pancakes before bed..duh?

[lucid olive]

i can't hate on that

[drifting nova]

still need to perfect it

whoever put salt in the ingredient list needs jesus

[livid jay]

What state are the driads in on ptr atm?

Do they still do 0 damage?

[pallid bay]

Yes

[dire latch]

Is that a meme or no? I mained boomie s2 but havemt played for a month. Are we shit now? 😮

[delicate perch]

only now?

[dire latch]

?

[spice roost]

i was told just parse 100 and max on wcl and the spec is good do with that what u will

when i said it was low

[dire latch]

Well damn :/

[delicate perch]

no one even said anything about druid being bad

bro just read nothing and made a story

[maiden pasture]

i mean arctic does do that

[spice roost]

^

[delicate perch]

low iq to listen to arctic though

[maiden pasture]

"is moonkin weak"
"idk i perform fine"

[delicate perch]

[maiden pasture]

its just edgy and not really answering the question

[delicate perch]

that's his whole bit to be fair

[spice roost]

wonder why he gets orange name is it just for yapping

is that literly the reason

[lucid olive]

the church part of Halls

we're so back

can't wait to see all the clip farming from there

[delicate perch]

venthyr on that first pull was very poggers

[lucid olive]

the part after 3rd boss

specifically

[spice roost]

i have a clip of demo lock doing 75mil peak in priory on ptr

[lucid olive]

chill little 48 mill peak

i coulda played it better too

[spice roost]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rgKesTh3kCM

75mil

[vital hound]

🗒️

[lucid olive]

i imagine if you just hold for a bit in that area you can just kill the guy before he does the 2nd heal

also idk if this was a thing in SL, but after all the souls and the miniboss died the souls just respawned with max health

[spice roost]

imagine the tier set working

with that

[lucid olive]

idk how much 5 extra Starsurges at 30% effectiveness is gonna do on that

[spice roost]

on boss tho

[lucid olive]

most of the power is in capping the the 4pc anyway

if I held the treants for a couple globals and went bear as the dryad despawned I probably do 170m crits on that guy

[spice roost]

is ec just not as good

compared to a broken tier set

i havent tried it myself in a key

[lucid olive]

its fine

probably a little worse now since they nerfed it for some reason

[sudden flame]

what does going bear do?

[lucid olive]

the total cap of the damage pooled by the 4pc is 50% of your max HP when the dryad despawns

[sudden flame]

okay that sounds insanely degenerate lmao

[spice roost]

it is

[lucid olive]

yeah its weird design

hopefully gets changed to something else

and if it gets changed to something else it hopefully stays at around the same scaling

think we're gonna end up with another Wrath buff sometime in season 3

[spice roost]

LOL

ofc

what a mess

[lucid olive]

the tier set is so extremely good in AoE and funnel it must be a nightmare to try and tune down those aspects and also make it not be dogshit on ST

only way i see them do it is nerfing the tier set and then buffing spells that aren't Starsurge

[jade flume]

Bruh nothing should ever scale with max hp on god

[spice roost]

get your hp trinkets rdy if they exist

[jade flume]

I remember when our demo lock wanted me to rally 5s into a boss fight

Hell to the nah

[lucid olive]

tell that to the dev innit

yeah I also told @wraith kiln that I will be angry if he doesn't instantly rebuff Fortitude

getting resto shamans to take APT so I can suicide and ress with more HP

[spice roost]

cn logs bout to be wild

[wraith kiln]

If it's a DPS raid buff I might actually do it

[lucid olive]

"I might do it" is a crazy stance on rebuffing

fr fr

i do mark of the wild in CA

peak raider

[wraith kiln]

Yeah I'm not doing that

[jade flume]

Nah ur crazy

[wraith kiln]

You can get Fort when it's convenient for me

[jade flume]

Im convinced our mages dont have arcane intellect bound tho

[wraith kiln]

Good movement GCD

[jade flume]

I dont think i ever had it back after i died

Just extra punishment for dying i guess

[maiden pasture]

soooo

rallying cry for my CDs pls

[maiden pasture]

can u coach me pls

[lucid olive]

no i don't coach haters

[drifting nova]

can you coach me so maya can pay up next tier

[maiden pasture]

pay what

[drifting nova]

you forgot?

[maiden pasture]

😭 i do not remember

but

i stand by it

[lyric junco]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-25383351

[jade flume]

Kekkers could get all rank 1s but hes holding back

[spice roost]

right he doesnt want to embarass recruite lol

/s

[jade flume]

Kekkers is superman of dreamgrove

[vale pebble]

ive been hearing this since sanctum

[drifting nova]

held back so hard didnt even play that tier

[hollow mist]

huge aura

[drifting nova]

saved my sanity by the looks of it

[lyric junco]

Honestly I have no idea what the name colours mean here and who I should actually pay attention to

[maiden pasture]

regular = has been here a while and normally not a complete troll (quite a few break this rule)

expert = proven to have knowledge, but no telling if that knowledge is about the spec ur asking about

[jade flume]

White = ignore everything they say

[quiet drift]

This

Green = good

[lucid olive]

we have secondary roles to show our field of expertise!

mine should be blank cause i'm an idiot

[maiden pasture]

but

if i ignore what u say then i wont ignore what white names say

[quiet drift]

[jade flume]

Its the dreamgrove paradox

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pointless-sad-run-futile-gif-25822185

[pallid bay]

me

im the authority

https://tenor.com/view/cancer-gif-26908874

[vale pebble]

no im the authority

[pallid bay]

silence colored name

[tired granite]

Authorities on being stinky and ugly

[lofty depot]

He's more like Hancock of dreamgrove

[lucid olive]

[vale pebble]

thoughts on feral druid buffs?

(mystic touch)

[tired granite]

https://x.com/GuiltyasFeral/status/1942856554715267204?t=lwRKRIUSaNgwJMQbEAuxDg&s=19

The Jungle Book (@GuiltyasFeral)

Phys damage buff is concerning, realistically I don't think it's likely that we're just going to globally buff Phys classes, which means that we're going to tune specs with this new buff in mind.

So going forwards if you don't have the buff in group you're just worse off?

X · Jul 9, 2025, 8:01 AM

[lucid olive]

shameless plug

[cloud plover]

the existence of GuiltyasFeral implies the existence of GuiltyasBoomie

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-gif-22652112

[lofty depot]

Does that also imply InnocentasFeral?

[cloud plover]

only on OD

but it exists

[hollow mist]

forget abt guiltyasferal, puppyferal is my queen

[cloud plover]

sorry I'm puppytamed

[hollow mist]

unlucky

i will be feral in ur honor then

[cloud plover]

u got this I believe in u

I'm a bamkin alt gamer now

but feral naaaa, not until they give it infinite energy

[mighty mica]

why would you do that to your self

[cloud plover]

it's pretty fun

never really played it before but gearing it up was a vibe

and for splits it's super chill content where I can just lean back and one button it

[rich jewel]

Pray monks are good

[cloud plover]

not that I'd ever one button rotation cuz holy cringe but still

[lofty depot]

Monk buffs my trees, that's a dam inc boys

Wooooo

[lucid olive]

buffs my melee convoke

[quiet drift]

Remember to spec 15% more shred dmg

[lucid olive]

its rake rip and trash isnt it

[hollow mist]

i think u just like gearing characters perhaps..

[cloud plover]

what do u mean

[lucid olive]

xelnya

i think you've waved at me in dornogal or something

[cloud plover]

I waved at u in ptr

[lucid olive]

oh yeah

[cloud plover]

saying REAL GAMZ?

[lucid olive]

the outside of the new raid is kinda cool

[scenic mist]

The inside too

[lucid olive]

mid

[scenic mist]

The beam blast is the new elevator boss

[round field]

get a life

[cloud plover]

thanks iqni xoxo

[shell lily]

I am sorry if this is a repeat question but I cannot find the answer.

I've seen multiple guides referencing Best in Slot as the BIS weapon for balance but multiple places I've seen, including in the game, show that it's only agility and strength. Am I missing something?

[iron chasm]

Yeah if you right click it, it goes intellect

Reconfigure or whatever the flavour text is

[shell lily]

Ahh I see

Tyvm

[obsidian tapir]

what was your overall after the dung end ?

[lucid olive]

idk we depleted hard cause people kept dying

think like 7 mill

[obsidian tapir]

uff, hmm yea not bad, tried to do some keys as well but dunno on PTR people are so weird :))

had a dk frost do 10 mil overall and I was like another broken class 😦

[royal zenith]

broken classes/specs on ptr?

there's no way

[potent cargo]

Blizz can’t balance on flat ground

Rats

[faint wren]

i there a trick for positioning during mug’zee intermission to actually do some damage or do I really just keep running and spamming moonfire and sunfire?

[lofty depot]

Stand on the edge of the cone going where u need to go and cast

[crisp scaffold]

I told someone here why tf they buff frost and they said why not ,wdym bro ,they were doing crazy dam before the buffs too

[lofty depot]

They don't bring a raid buff, they gotta do crazy dam

[elder remnant]

I remembered how to press buttons a little thank god

[crisp scaffold]

why does everyone need to have a raid buff?

[lofty depot]

I didn't say they did

But if a class doesn't bring one, they better be good at something else

Doing damage is one of those possibilities

[crisp scaffold]

it was better in the beginning ,just a few raid buffs not 15 classes

[lofty depot]

So much better stacking 5 rogues or 5 mages

So true so real

Boomkin hasn't been on the winning rwf guild since rasz, but let's complain about dk that was on the same boss and did negative mechanics

Hell ya

[crisp scaffold]

ok ,u said something about stacking ,u wanna know that the casual guild Im in ,brought 5 hunters and 2 devs for mugzee mithic so we have good dps ?

people will still stack with raid or no raid buff

whats broken people bring

[round field]

[potent cargo]

Legendary commitment

[crisp scaffold]

also balance might as well do more dps since our "raid buff" is nerfed compared to before

[round field]

[potent cargo]

Boomy is in pits for the next 2 xpac

Reroll if u haven’t already

[royal zenith]

The fuck

[potent cargo]

Lock in

[hollow mist]

Lock in

[potent cargo]

Boomy lowest dps and highest deaths for another tier what a surprise kek

[crisp scaffold]

Im still trying to find a pocket healer , to have me on focus

[potent cargo]

I spent gold and rizz for that

Still died

[grand cargo]

Most the time the problem with boomy is it can do a little of everything without actually being great at something

[round field]

[exotic perch]

crank those deaths out baby

but i dont know if you can beat the stats for braindead hunters

[lofty depot]

We bring utility like Roar and ursols/root 🙂

[lofty depot]

Get a pally beacon

I'm safe forever

[round field]

Boomie is the new hunter

On god

Average boomkin still eats crayons

[exotic perch]

average anyone

people are really bad at wow

the average player is so bad lol

[loud kettle]

Almost like game hard

[lofty depot]

game easy, im hard

[half sierra]

game almost like hard

[exotic perch]

best part is you dont have to be really good at wow to have a great time playing it

great game

[half sierra]

so if I'm not having a great time, does that mean i'm really good?

[lofty depot]

Both arent correlated, u could be bad and have a bad time

[frigid yoke]

just saw the tier tuning. seems our keepers tier isnt touched yet. i bet they prolly revamp it..

grove

[slender dragon]

guys i dont think blizzard is reading post on the forums

[lofty depot]

Too late to revamp it

There would also be no point in tuning it last week if they were going to revamp it

[slender dragon]

only way to be listenned is to move on fellowship when its released

[crisp scaffold]

They will just nerf a lil bit more both hero talents ,reroll to another class and gg

[lofty depot]

Have fun on fellowship bud

[lofty depot]

How u gonna nerf something that currently doesn't work hm

[crisp scaffold]

They fix then nerf :))

[lofty depot]

Yea yea

[slender dragon]

war is like bugged since legion

balance is bugged since ages

they dont care anymore

[frigid yoke]

thing is every PTR u get so happy playing balance

then live comes and ur dissapointed

for m+ yes its strong current season but dull as hell

[slender dragon]

probably the only game where devs don't ask players what to changes with some AMA/Q&A 😄

[crisp scaffold]

the season 2 tier also was very good for balance in m+

At least thats what I feel

[slender dragon]

i didn't get any fun from t2

shrooms are automatic

no gameplay diff

[lucid olive]

reading takes from the playerbase this makes sense

[ripe slate]

Can’t wait to dodge nerfs because all their data from this week is skewed by the 2p not working

[crisp scaffold]

They ask ,but they dont care ,since they already planned the xpac 3 years ago

[signal temple]

Time to get back to the tried and true method of sending packages with no return address

[slender dragon]

why do you think blizzard dont work on news games ? lol, you release a shit like that in 2025 you are rated 2/10 on metacritic and your game die in 2 weeks

[dry compass]

Ask which previous version of boomie people prefer and watch the civil war erupt

[lofty depot]

Midnight rework gonna be lit

[dry compass]

Can't wait for the next set of changes that correctly identifies the issues then fails spectacularly to resolve them

[signal temple]

I really hope we get on the upswing

[true viper]

is the dryad afk bug a thing in all instances or on target dummy

[lucid olive]

everywhere

[true viper]

Nice

w devs

[meager storm]

im really suprised people didnt know the bug was a thing till they fixed the 4 set

[lucid olive]

dont think the devs knew either

[meager storm]

took people 10s of testing to realize

do they even try the things themselves

[true viper]

Worked in this log i have from last testing

[meager storm]

yeah cuz of the 4set

only when u had a stack of the amp surge it was doing dmg

[true viper]

i see

[meager storm]

check ur first ca

only after that it was doing dmg

[true viper]

Yeah nothing

[lucid olive]

everyone thought moonkin was turbo busted that testing cause everybody abused the bug

[lofty depot]

People don't test things, they just see it.

[meager storm]

yeah

and the devs saw it

[lofty depot]

They're like oh the damage is op nerf.

[meager storm]

and nerfed the dryad for no reaosn

[lofty depot]

And don't know what's happening

[meager storm]

when its fixed that sht will be doing 2% of my dmg

[lofty depot]

Kb even did the testing and didn't know how it was doing dam

Unforch

[meager storm]

catching a 57% nerf for no reason

[true viper]

https://tenor.com/view/omgbruh-corey-harris-omg-bruh-zoom-court-gif-2693074222613527227

[rich jewel]

Classic moonkin ptr cycle

[true viper]

do u play convoke on st ec @lucid olive

[lucid olive]

who knows

[true viper]

U

[merry ibex]

ehh so i dont play boomkin a lot cause its an alt... but does this look right? compendium says to do 1 patchwerk 5 mins even for m+... but a 681 haste / mastery crafted cloak sims lower than a 684 trashmaster vers cloak? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/t5gUDnmZb5T3up5ndhHtcf

boomkin i always feel like im missing SOMETHING and idk what it is lol

[lofty depot]

0.1% is a fake number

[lucid olive]

its within margin of error

it doesnt matter which you take really

haste mast also lot better than vers is and cloak has very low stat budget anyway

[merry ibex]

ok cool, ty!

yeah trashmaster was the only item i got in vault so ill prob take coins

[lucid olive]

yeah id take a socket

[agile nimbus]

was there any ST class tuning? my cooldowns are off by a few seconds

[silk hill]

what simulation options would be the best if i want to sim the mythic gallywix fight to fix my gear a little bit ?

[lofty depot]

Nop

[lucid olive]

1 target 5 minutes

[lofty depot]

U dont sim for specific fights like that

[silk hill]

i mean its not a purely single target fight and not thaaaat heavy on aoe
so i was just unsure if there is a sim option specific for that kind of fights

[silk hill]

thanks

[lofty depot]

There's not which is the point

So the default is what u use

And our stats don't change that much based on target count

Playing better > worrying about stats

[lucid olive]

the only alternative is to enter raid events yourself into the expert mode footer but that would also require modifying the APL to hold CDs for certain raid events etc and is more work than its worth

[silk hill]

ye but for me it has been months since i actually raided and i got a bunch of mythic pieces sitting idle in my bags because i did my weekly vault caps ( not really pushing )
so i have a lot of gear to switch out on so might as well do it for the fight i am getting swapped in to by my guild XD

[silk hill]

yeahhhhh i dont think i know how to do that specificly XD

[lofty depot]

Well that's just simming default

As u should every week when taking gear from vault

[silk hill]

i dont play wow has my main game so i just pick any item that looks somewhat good
dont really care about simming weekly unless i actually play to push
so now i have some simming to catch up to 😄

[thin dirge]

Anyone got a 11.2ptr m+ build?

wanna test it

[lucid olive]

take the Stix build and then move some shit around to get Fury of Elune

[meager storm]

cant wait to be playing foe again on st

[teal minnow]

For gally it'll be worth looking at your raid comp and being honest whether you're going to be doing anything meaningful to the adds. If not, just go st and hit the boss / ranged add / boss immediately infront of you

[silk hill]

thank you 😄

[jaunty fjord]

what rings do you use for balance? no matter what i do the 658 circlet sims better over any 671 i get...do i just keep the circlet instead of higher ilevel stuff.

[lucid olive]

yes

[silk hill]

yeah i realised that circlet is still my best ring as well despite having a bunch of myth track rings with mastery q-q

[jaunty fjord]

its my lowest level pc which makes it an eyesore :\

[teal minnow]

easy answer to this is if your raid contains a dev evoker / havoc dh / ret pala / hunters of any flavour / warriors / shamans.... just go ST as things wont live enough for you to properly aoe them down

[silk hill]

oh that makes it very easy
single target it is XD

[vague breach]

any goo ST builds?

[lofty depot]

Pins > compendium

[vague breach]

TY

[jaunty fjord]

for raid i noticed diff builds work for diff bosses same isnt bis for every boss

[lucid olive]

yes thats usually how it works

[silk hill]

true but if he asks for a good ST build there is most likely only 1
the bosses with different builds are not a single target fight

[jaunty fjord]

i was taught to use a seperate build for serveral diff bosses like for example for me vexie/rik/caul/lock/mug is one, stix, bandit and gally have their own sepearte

but thats how i was shown

[silk hill]

i have it the same way
personally i just copy what ever people on warcraft logs have and call it a day xD

[jaunty fjord]

i go off archon lol

[lofty depot]

Not using twin moons on rik, travic

[silk hill]

i think archon uses logs anyway so its not too different

[lofty depot]

Tragic

[lucid olive]

i go off the dreamgrove raid guide that i made

[silk hill]

WELL
of to dreamgrove i am

[royal zenith]

cringe flex

you're just a bamkin bro, dont get it twisted

[lucid olive]

[silk hill]

btw i think i got the special version of that weird little belt everyone got
no matter how i sim my gear it always tells me static charge is the best for my single target sims
but on warcraft logs most use the charged bolt one

guess i run with my unique static belt XD

[lucid olive]

static better

[silk hill]

seems like it
i wonder why the top people i see on logs dont have it

[lofty depot]

Bugged when looking at it

[ripe slate]

was that cook few days back about running like foe/AC and stuff for kotg tier actually worth doing

[lofty depot]

Or people took the info week 1 and then don't chaneg it

[lofty depot]

Foe yes, ac no

I was mostly trolling with ac

[ripe slate]

do you still run radiant moonlight with it or nah

[lofty depot]

I mean cats vs ac

[silk hill]

yeah when i look at their armory they have something else but i figured that is due to m+ or something
i just listen to what ever the sim gods tell me to and be happy with it

[lofty depot]

Idk was just seeing if u could get more surges

[lofty depot]

Yes

It's about the most damage in a small window

[lofty depot]

It's a visual bug iirc

[silk hill]

well there is only 1 way to prove it
get the top spot in the logs and see it for my self

[jaunty fjord]

unless im doing my tree wrong @lofty depot i sim higher without twin, plus many of the builds ive seen dont have it

[lofty depot]

Well u sim higher on St yes, but rik reverb has adds dood

[river galleon]

My first ever CE. Thanks to you guys at some point, because you gave a lot of tips about this class here. See you in season 3!

[lofty depot]

Ur welcome

[orchid ember]

Grats!

[scarlet tapir]

this flarendo mount

might be the best in the game

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-squish-gif-16136532503569005934

glorp mount when

[royal zenith]

only in cash shop

[meager storm]

worth

ufo mount, glorp mog and "Im glorpin it" title bundle

holy

blizzard hire me

[lofty depot]

Hire u as a janitor

With ur dogshit ideas and clean that shit up

[meager storm]

one of them is our dev

[lofty depot]

He doesn't get paid either

Why u think he's not fixing tier set

[meager storm]

i only say bangers idk

[lofty depot]

Yea u and adept, only bangers

[sour rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/kuzco-reaction-react-emperor-emperors-new-groove-gif-12011912363815937941

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1WwbpkS28CeZ7_lqqWLdumjZV7_kwJeGEUQ2O4dWenOc/

[scarlet tapir]

not clicking that

!

[sour rampart]

It's a virus

I'm gonna hack your CPU

[lofty depot]

THE KING

Commented on a 4 month old comment, Bigg

[sour rampart]

[lofty depot]

Where's the augment rune guide

[sour rampart]

20 year old addiction can't be kicked

Working on it

[lofty depot]

Type shit

[sour rampart]

DMF buff means that it should be easier

Also means you're going to be doing dumb things like making sure you keep up the buff the entire time you're doing the campaign

[lofty depot]

I have no clue about it cuz last time it was giga cringe

[sour rampart]

Just bring back my flying around with centaurs please

[lofty depot]

Planting flowers for 8 hours a day

Wooooo

[serene hound]

how does the new 4p work btw?

[lofty depot]

Dryad spawns for 10 seconds, during that 10s 5% of ur damage done is stored and capped to 50% of ur HP. Then u get a buff for 45s that is that damage stored for 2 surges

[meager storm]

5% of the dmg u do while ur dryad is active is added to ur 2 surges after the dryad fades

[serene hound]

so anything that i have to keep in mind rotation wise?

[lofty depot]

Well there's some tech involved with not using trees right away in CA but instead 2 seconds in to then have the buff for the surges

But that also depends on what is correct sequencing which is a sim question so it's not locked down

It's PTR, test some shit out and see what does more :/

[pallid bay]

self promotion in #general

no one asked bro

[sour rampart]

I've literally always posted it in boomkin channel

So don't click it

[pallid bay]

maybe follow the rules

[true viper]

You need to follow that dude ur a raider right

[pallid bay]

isnt that the guy who said to pick socket w1

[true viper]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-14770887436103544323

[sour rampart]

Yep, still do

If you clicked the guide you'd see that 🙂

[pallid bay]

thats crazy

[sour rampart]

Vault selection order for August 12th vault:

1. From the delve line, BIS hero track delve trinket or a tier piece.
2. From the mythic 0 line, a champion track tier piece. You might consider a trinket but hero track trinkets will be farmable and will instantly replace the trinket.
3. If your only options from the vault are champion track armor pieces or a weapon or trinket you’ll instantly replace, you can take a socket.

[true viper]

q

[exotic perch]

why would i take socket week 1 if i can get a good item

[gilded wolf]

@pallid bay Pick a socket buddy

[lofty depot]

That line is for Aug 12 which is the week raid comes out

Which usually isn't a vault with s2 myth track items

[exotic perch]

ah so the meme vault week

[true viper]

2nd boss ahh

[lofty depot]

But can do m0

[sour rampart]

Ye basically. That's why I broke down the order where the socket is literally your last choice. There's just no point in taking some random champion non set armor or weapon if you're replacing it the same day. Socket into your crafted bracers is just better.

It's the meme week choice

[lofty depot]

Picking up the champion track item to DE

[exotic perch]

yea i feel like having to tell someone not to dive into the shallow end is self explanatory

[sour rampart]

Man you'd be surprised

Just look at Ois reply

Lmao

[lofty depot]

Larias posts that shit to reddit

[sour rampart]

I assume that every reader is an outlaw rogue

[lofty depot]

He gets Dad's at the truck stop commenting

[sour rampart]

Hey now

Lmao

[lofty depot]

Ain't no way

[quiet drift]

[sour rampart]

Yep lmao, I'm literally a truck driver nowadays

[lofty depot]

Ahh, so u tell ur boys to go read this cool guide u wrote and then they give u a what for

[sour rampart]

Oh Lord

[meager storm]

i think we are getting another nerf gangy

[lofty depot]

Stop doing good damage!!!

Maybe lock player is shit

[nova ocean]

Locks biggest sand baggers

[clever vigil]

dw i'm making spec look balanced 💯

[limber terrace]

good evening, was wondering what to use dinar for balance,? i bought the heal trink for my tree spec . I will not have mythic raid kills or M+12s

[meager storm]

and that was a bad pull

[lofty depot]

Thanks for ur hard work

[meager storm]

i had a 76 mil non crit

[lofty depot]

Go to raidbots and sim what items would be worth

There's an option in top gear

[limber terrace]

ok thanks

[pallid bay]

[lucid topaz]

Hey guys, I'm hoping someone can help!
I'm currently running a Macro for my Incarn / Celestial Alignment:
#showtooltip Incarnation: Chosen of Elune
/cast Incarnation: Chosen of Elune
/cast Nature's Vigil
/use Tempered Potion
/use 14

but I have 2 different macros (1 with Incarn, 1 with CA).
I'm trying to figure out how I can merge them into 1 macro (since you can only have 1 or the other)?

[exotic perch]

if you just use Celestial Alignment it works when incarn is talented

[lucid topaz]

Oh no way

Tooltip too?

[obsidian tapir]

kinda decent

[exotic perch]

tooltip maybe idk but its the same spell

[meager storm]

yo ask rosum what is he wearing rn

[lucid topaz]

Oh mah gosh, it worked (Tooltip too)! I love you ❤️

It makes sense since the spell says "Replaced CA"

[lofty depot]

/cast [@cursor] Celestial Alignment

U can delete the spell in the tool tip if u put that line after rit

[lucid topaz]

Do we ever play Orbital Strike anymore?

[lofty depot]

We could

But no

[lucid topaz]

I couldn't find any builds with it

Just throw that in for contingency, in case we do. Got it.
Does it not bug out if we aren't running it and therefore don't need to @cursor, to cast it?

[wet cloud]

yes

#showtooltip
/cast Celestial Alignment
/cast Nature's Vigil
/use Tempered Potion
/use 14

[obsidian tapir]

a thong

[crisp scaffold]

full single ?

[meager storm]

bug boss

[lofty depot]

erhm wrong

[nova ocean]

It has a damage amp though on that boss to

[meager storm]

i mean its just a flat 25% for the rest of p2

iirc

its not a rasz shield

[exotic perch]

i mean we just do really well with damage amps

[nova ocean]

Ya but that benefits more consistent damage

[meager storm]

boomy is not consistent

u can get 0 crits

and do tank dmg

[wet cloud]

I was just repeating his macro

[nova ocean]

Exactly

[meager storm]

or all crits and be 2 mil ahead

[nova ocean]

I'm saying we aren't even good on that boss technically

[lofty depot]

so many times i get 45m hit and slam desk

[meager storm]

gangy

idk

[visual prawn]

Where did you find ptr logs ?

[lucid olive]

On warcraftlogs

[obsidian tapir]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/w8CLZg1VJyNj2r6K?type=damage-done&boss=-2&difficulty=0

HERE

sorry caps

[visual prawn]

Thanks dude 😉 , i didnt find any category for PTR logs..

[lofty depot]

scroll down

[visual prawn]

Oh yeah thks !

[lucid olive]

Np glad I could help

[lofty depot]

im not

research skills are no more

[rocky crag]

moxie jug vs reverb radio for keys?

[maiden pasture]

moxie always

the trinket is OP

[rocky crag]

w/ house of cards

what if the radio is mythic

and the jug is hero

[lofty depot]

usually jug is better

[obsidian tapir]

we getting nerfed ggs

pure st fight

[lofty depot]

maybe all those people are shit

3rd dps prot pally

[obsidian tapir]

only log I see a boomie do that much :))

[lofty depot]

assume the 20 under him are shit

[obsidian tapir]

its bugged

[obsidian tapir]

=))

[lofty depot]

so are we

[obsidian tapir]

that balance goes bear after all his cds

to do the 150mil surges crit

[night gulch]

did they reintroduce the dryad bug? My first two ptr kills have no dryads favor damage but my soulbinder does, and its an average 3mil cast from the dryad lol

[obsidian tapir]

what talents did you use in halls today or when you played ?

[lofty depot]

they didnt fix the bug in the first place

[night gulch]

seems weird that the first two bosses, there was no dryad damage for me then, i was doing the pool tech so I should've seen damage on the 2nd and 3rd cds but there was nothing

[scenic mist]

unless you surged right after CA

[lofty depot]

whats the over under on u doing it incorrectly

[scenic mist]

then no more favor so no more dryad dmg

[meager storm]

that was fixed

show log and let me see ur dryad dmg

[lofty depot]

today the damage for the "pool" tech was fixed

[scenic mist]

he's talking about 2nd test round, when it wasnt iirc

[lofty depot]

but if ur talking a week ago its different

[night gulch]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cP2Wq9HBbmDZCL36

[lofty depot]

but the dryad by it self never did damage without the dryad buff

[night gulch]

im talking about today

[meager storm]

where is ur dryad dmg

dryad favor is the cleave ur surge does

not dryad dmg

[lofty depot]

dryad favor isnt hte dryad yea

[night gulch]

ah

[lofty depot]

the dryad before was effected by 4p buff

[night gulch]

im just dumb

[lofty depot]

it no longer is

but that had nothing to do with the dryad doing no damage outside of that window

[prime ingot]

guys I just did a boss with supreme and his dmg was 68% starsurge, should I report that to the fbi?

[spark anchor]

yes

[meager storm]

only 68% sandbagging

ggs

[maiden pasture]

i see that and i raise youthis

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/MXKn.gif

[fallen relic]

Is there a way to macro celestial alignment and equipmentslot 13 with Whirling stars talented? It seems internal spellid just bricks it and greys it out when it gains another stack when combined with incarn talent...

[meager storm]

#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor]Celestial Alignment
/use 13

[fallen relic]

Doesnt work with the combination mentioned. Thats what im using with orbital + incarn

[vital hound]

when you swap talents you need to relog

[fallen relic]

Oh so its a blizzard special, i see

[meager storm]

if u swap between orbital and whirling u may need to reload

but the macro works

[fallen relic]

Ok so the relog worked, i was bashing my head against this for like an hour trying figure out /click macros and shit

[round oracle]

its a very nice feature a lot of people have faced

[glacial spindle]

Anyone know how to change the Jundies profile to stop showing friendly names? Every time i turn it off it auto changes back almost instantly

[spice roost]

@obsidian tapirhave u seen any logs without expoliting the tier

[meager storm]

there is no exploiting anymore this is our dmg

they just need to nerf the duration, change how our cap works

we are techincally undertuned cuz our dryad is afk

[spice roost]

you think the bugging the tier set this way is intended?

[meager storm]

bugging it how

this is our dmg

its just a bit overtuned

[spice roost]

abit lol

[meager storm]

but its not a bug

[spice roost]

they need toi fix this

[meager storm]

3 weeks

[spice roost]

ya

[full sleet]

for things like first pull of cinder, first pull of workshop, 3rd miniboss pull priory etc etc should I be taking the time to get moonfire on every single mob? because i feel like im doing more overall on those pulls when i only do a handful of them + sunfire then go into my rotation

for reference on how long stuff is living im doing 16s atm

[delicate perch]

there is no way those mobs don't live enough to dot them all, you can ignore yellow mobs for the most part since they do nothing/have way less health