assuming it doesn't get buffed by 4p it wouldn't be doing 40%
#balance
obsidian jetty
pallid bay
yes ofc, im talking with someone who knows how the dryad worked
i dont need to add that context for u 
obsidian jetty
but yea, it's more with that bug that doesn't work now
fossil hemlock
That's a theory out there yeah, because rumours are there's no season 4, so they might be making this the "fun OP" season
fossil hemlock
I mean it's not a super likely theory, but it's not exactly that off-base considering some of the tier tuning so far
obsidian jetty
surge will do a greater % of the total damage
like 65% yea
-some small% of base dmg
from surge
royal zenith
today a new build with a working tierset, surely
obsidian jetty
and goldy
pallid bay
tbf i wouldnt mind having a very concentrated cd window for a tier
obsidian jetty
I want it to remain strong and playable in the venth style ramp up big dam boom bang. But I just don't see it happening
pallid bay
but PTR graphs are a bit too silly
obsidian jetty
smart play by them would be to attach it to treants, nerf dmg, nerf how the cap is calc'd and see how it does
pallid bay
why would it be smart
you keep saying treants
thematically sure but other than that?
obsidian jetty
because it stops the ability to overlap it with double CA easily
pallid bay
that can be solved differently though
i guess if you couldnt overlap you would still double CA with pot lust
most likely
actually
yeah i mean 30s window
obsidian jetty
only way would be making a whitelist for what applies to the pool
pallid bay
basically how you play now
obsidian jetty
and blacklisting the added surge dmg
which is applied to base surge...
so they'd have to rework how it's calc and done
way too much work for them
pallid bay
if you have a whitelist you dont need a blacklist
obsidian jetty
maiden pasture
Just fucking make a new tierset
maiden pasture
Fuck this treeants dryad faerie dragons goldrinn pet class moonkin
fossil hemlock
Fuck this treeants dryad faerie dragons goldrinn pet class moonkin
Go play fire mage or something
obsidian jetty
fr
pallid bay
yeah i mean the dryad itself is irrelevant right
obsidian jetty
I want 6 dryads and a ancient tree walking around me
fossil hemlock
Let me be a legit keeper of the grove
pallid bay
its the buff that you're in control of thats actually exciting
fossil hemlock
Not a treelad
maiden pasture
I want to go back to dropping moons for big damage
fossil hemlock
Tell Blizz to care about Elune's Chosen, that's the moon spec
pallid bay
the poop spec
maiden pasture
Except that's centered around foe
fossil hemlock
Well no
maiden pasture
GG
fossil hemlock
It's centered around foe because moons isn't tuned high enough for them
The design is still there for it to work with moons
obsidian jetty
idk what their plan is with moons. I swear they just leave it in limbo because they don't want to make our CD longer duration
fossil hemlock
But things like Atmospheric exposure should work with all moon casts not just full moon
pallid bay
yeah bro do you want 6% inc damage all the time
fossil hemlock
idk what their plan is with moons. I swear they just leave it in limbo because t...
Idk how they can't just replicate whatever made moons feel great in legion
obsidian jetty
cast while moving
pallid bay
or when you finish your 5 second casts every 60 second
pallid bay
eclipses will never change me thinks
quiet drift
🚬
pallid bay
it just carries an entire rework of the spec with it
fossil hemlock
For eclipses to make sense it just need to have rotational changes but still be able to do both st and aoe in both
And that's apparently hard for them to design
obsidian jetty
yea, can't wait for the entire tree to be "starsurge and starfall have a chance to proc boat"
pallid bay
based
fossil hemlock
Tbf they could just go back to BFA empowerments. For sure better than the current system
pallid bay
and they're not affected by it
obsidian jetty
"starsurge and starfall have a chance to give you 100% faster cast speed on your next 2 wraths or starfires"
royal zenith
I want to believe they will keep a bit of this gameplay
cause they know we long for venthyr-like gameplay....
vital hound
god i hope not
royal zenith
(well, 'we', apart from Nightfae enjoyers like sheep)
vital hound
such shite design
pseudo merlin
I like sheep
royal zenith
as in the person?
jade flume
Man what if eclipses were on like a timer of some sort
And would be rotating periodically
obsidian jetty
And would be rotating periodically
😴
pseudo merlin
And would be rotating periodically
True
Like completely outside of your control right
royal zenith
I too love to take the train and/or subway to work
always know what to expect
same trip every day
glorious way of living
jade flume
Like completely outside of your control right
Ye
royal zenith
I thought you people were legally required to bike everywhere
nah cause you stole it
pseudo merlin
royal zenith
bald + dutch + wifebeater (the type of tshirt to be precise)
pseudo merlin
And a juicehead
jade flume
Are you a juice enjoyer
pseudo merlin
Yeah I love OJ
pseudo merlin
The Juice goes super hard, always has
royal zenith
wrong
pseudo merlin
Especially after brushing teeth
so real
royal zenith
pear juice > orange juice
jade flume
Idk if i ever had pear juice in my life
royal zenith
nah you are capping
pseudo merlin
Pear juice is only good when it's a festini
royal zenith
see, festini is just terrible
pseudo merlin
WHAT
royal zenith
the strawberry > pear
pseudo merlin
Nah I wont stand for this
royal zenith
by a mile
royal zenith
cider is pretty good
pseudo merlin
Pear cider is also like the worst cider
royal zenith
very bri ish tho
jade flume
Man we bought out a shelf of those
When we were on a trip with my homies
Since we dont have those in poland
vital hound
cloud plover
Hello boomkins, hi @round field @royal zenith, hope everyone's having a good time and a nice day 
pallid bay
this one too
rekorderlig 
pseudo merlin
The drink of our youths
pallid bay
how to get absurdly drunk when underage
severe yacht
Hi all does anyone have a plater script or profile that changes the bars colour and or size if you have moonfire and sunfire active. I had something but had to do a reinstall and can't find anything to do it
pseudo merlin
real
At this point this needs to be a FAQ or something @lucid olive
I've seen this question like 29 times in a week
royal zenith
I've seen this question like 29 times in a week
think that says more about you than the question...
royal zenith
I don't like it cause I use colorcoding for important mobs
pseudo merlin
On large pulls the nameplates definitely get too chaotic to be able to clearly see MF/SUF
Oh yeah that's a good point, nvm
royal zenith
but it's subjective obv
royal zenith
think there's also just scripts like this on wago
pseudo merlin
What if we just display the DOT icons on the actual bar
not above it
is that not a thing we can do
severe yacht
think there's also just scripts like this on wago
Pretty sure I was using one of these previously but struggled to find one that works now. Will keep testing
pseudo merlin
Yeah like I said it's been asked a lot, and asides from the fact that my memory is shit, I don't recall there ever being like a good answer
One of the reasons being the color coding for more important things like 🦆 mentioned
royal zenith
Ive seen this one so far:
https://wago.io/GeHuM2FWx
but last comment was like march 2k24
there's more scripts but some look a bit sus
severe yacht
Ta
pseudo merlin
I feel like that's the best of both worlds no
yeah that looks litty on a stack
that's huge
pseudo merlin
yup im getting this
lyric junco
I use a mod that changes the colour based on the missing buff and then reverts to default when both are active, so it doesn't alter the end colour
Ravec I'll send you mine when I get home
It's actually configured
pseudo merlin
Nah I'm getting this
lyric junco
And has TTD so you know if its worth to even reapply dots
pseudo merlin
This looks great
royal zenith
@severe yacht wants it
lyric junco
Nah I'm getting this
No you don't
royal zenith
pseudo merlin
Shows icons above enemy nameplates when your DoTs are missing.
I think I'd change it the other way around?
Icons ON nameplates when missing, above when not
royal zenith
if you can alter the code, try it
lyric junco
Why would you display anything if it's missing other than changing the colour?
Ret mains man...
pseudo merlin
What if you're colorblind
lyric junco
Texture change
royal zenith
wait do you two game together now?
pseudo merlin
Yeah but like idk who he is
royal zenith
as in same guild
pseudo merlin
You sound like you do
royal zenith
I do >:)
pseudo merlin
Is that good or bad
lyric junco
Do you?
royal zenith
Is that good or bad
who knows
royal zenith
nope
pseudo merlin
I just know Sintry's PFP looks super familiar to me and it's been driving me crazy
royal zenith
I gave you a hint
lyric junco
There's no way this guy is for real
severe yacht
I use a mod that changes the colour based on the missing buff and then reverts t...
If you could send it my way that would be great
lyric junco
If you could send it my way that would be great
https://wago.io/TF0cY0LAp This isn't mine, but it's the one I use. I've just configured mine slightly differently
I've moved things and changed colours
pseudo merlin
Might try it out. I feel like the colors would drive me crazy
I prefer seeing icons
But also this is really only ever a problem on like first pull in rookery or brew
pseudo merlin
I've never had trouble telling if everything was dotted outside of that
yeah probably
I'm a boomerkin so I run on autopilot
royal zenith
I've tried all of it and it just turned into dots on the left side (growing left) and colors for important mobs
lyric junco
It's really good for all M+ pulls or add fights honestly
royal zenith
deleted a ton of extra useless info
pseudo merlin
I've tried all of it and it just turned into dots on the left side (growing left...
oh that works too yeah
pseudo merlin
It's really good for all M+ pulls or add fights honestly
idk maybe I just subconsciously make a mental note of mob count and then divide that by 2 and count the number of times I press MF or something
lyric junco
idk maybe I just subconsciously make a mental note of mob count and then divide ...
Works in theory, but if you accidentally send a MF on a mob with MF already, you need to add another
pseudo merlin
yup
lyric junco
Colours are far more explict
pseudo merlin
Just don't ever make mistakes 🤓
drifting nova
like hitting play
pseudo merlin
kekkers
drifting nova
barry
jade flume
Nameplate colors are goated for dots, i use it too
lyric junco
But my plater is set up for every class, then this mod just alters it in the event that all my dots aren't active. So doesn't affect my hunter or anything. I prefer it that way
pseudo merlin
what about barbed shot
lyric junco
pseudo merlin
Does it mean nothing to you
pseudo merlin
I've been getting into hunter so hard lately
lyric junco
You don't need to spread it to every mob
pseudo merlin
I've hated it since they reworked survival
pseudo merlin
I played SV in Uldir
Maybe the most fun I've ever had playing a spec in this game
But I mean BM and MM stopped being fun to me after the SV rework
royal zenith
bring back bomba survival hunter
pseudo merlin
I played SV in Uldir
There was this azerite trait that made serpent sting stack up to 10 stacks that would then be consumed by raptor strike to do huge dam, creating large micromanagement gameplay that was super rewarding
I think that was insanely fun
In addition to micro managing bombas
not just pressing them without thinking
lyric junco
There was this azerite trait that made serpent sting stack up to 10 stacks that ...
Iirc that still exists, or it did recently
Ah they removed
rip
ornate quest
just wondering, why does vers sim decent on boomy?
fossil hemlock
Because you have a shitton of mastery and haste probably
final charm
does anyone know how long will the goblin event last?
pseudo merlin
just wondering, why does vers sim decent on boomy?
Because stats have multiplicative synergy and even if someone tells you a stat is bad, it will gain more value the less of it you have
Which is why you should sim your gear, and base your gearing decision off of the robot, not a stat priority
broken quail
question, when do we cast convoke outside incarn or CA?
fossil hemlock
You don't
quiet drift
When youve fucked up earlier and boss is dying
fossil hemlock
Also you can't convoke in incarn, they share a choice node
quiet drift
I mean in single target idk if that changes anything
No
broken quail
yeah not incarn sorry
only CA
so I just leave it there not on CD and proceed to normal rotation
fossil hemlock
But yeah you just try to make sure to have CA ready for convoke
broken quail
oh ok so just hold CA charges for convoke
pseudo merlin
Probably if your next CA is more than 40 seconds away and fight length will permit another usage by casting it early?
But im not 100% on that
fossil hemlock
I mean with 2 charges that's not how that works
pseudo merlin
yeah exactly
fossil hemlock
You can always just have a charge ready without losing a charge
broken quail
thanks everyone
pseudo merlin
I wouldn't recommend using damage breakdowns to improve your gameplay
always just try to get a log, someone will be able to review it for you
broken quail
any nice balance druid youtubers?
see what to do in this situation? 50+ cd on CA and convoke ready
lyric junco
No. Because there are no nice balance druids
If the target lives long enough for your next CA, then I'd hold CA I THINK
I'm not a balance smart man, but that's what I'd do
There's a reason people don't ask me questions 🙂
pseudo merlin
see what to do in this situation? 50+ cd on CA and convoke ready
you dont get into that situation in the first place
fossil hemlock
see what to do in this situation? 50+ cd on CA and convoke ready
Are you sending both charges of CA at the same time?
Or what's going on here?
pseudo merlin
also your CA icon being fully saturated/colored while on cd really really triggers me
broken quail
yes . I'm not holding 1 for the next convoke
pseudo merlin
Wdym holding
broken quail
no, it's not ready, sor ry that triggers you
fossil hemlock
Okay rephrasing it
pseudo merlin
So that's not indicating that there's a charge ready?
fossil hemlock
You use 2 CAs on pull, convoke the first one. Then you hold the 3rd charge for 2nd convoke
pseudo merlin
I see
royal zenith
you want to align your cd's
pseudo merlin
yeah so none in the screenshot, got it
That just means you threw out your 3rd CA for no reason
royal zenith
simple math will show you that you have time for exactly one more set of trees
fossil hemlock
Wait we have a tool for this
pseudo merlin
Ofcourse you did
That's not what I said
If you use a charge on pull, you'll get one back in 1.7 minutes
broken quail
k, please don't be mean lol I justa started out the spec
pseudo merlin
That's .3 minutes before the second convoke
broken quail
I was just following wowhead
pseudo merlin
What you did is send that charge ( the third one) immediately
Instead of waiting for convoke
lyric junco
He's not being mean, he's just telling you the reality
broken quail
I was following this
broken quail
ty
pseudo merlin
compendium is the bible
(wowhead is fine, compendium is just a bit better/more frequently updated)
broken quail
yeah I was thinking about an opener
pseudo merlin
that's probably where you went wrong
broken quail
ok, maybe I just need to read for a bit the link you've posted
pseudo merlin
Yeah take a look at the compendium and ask if you don't get something
does this work
click the KOTG - ST dropdown
broken quail
yes
pseudo merlin
I would recommend just reading the whole thing, but for now you might just want to focus on the ST bit
YOu'll find most info that you need in the compendium
lyric junco
A realistic and I think ideal scenario from opener > 2nd convoke is like:
Opener into trees into CA into dump AP into Convoke (there's some steps before you press trees like applying dots and precasting)
Continue with regular prio list casting until 2nd trees > Trees into 2nd CA
Trees again on CD with nothing else, just following regular prio list (I think it comes back for 2nd Convoke at this point, if it doesn't, just hold CA and convoke until next set of trees)
When you have Trees, CA and Convoke charge back: reapply dots > trees > CA > dump AP > 2nd convoke
I THINK
Do not quote me
Take it from the compendium
But I think that's the realistic way it plays out
royal zenith
too late
fossil hemlock
fossil hemlock
I'm using this COOL TOOL
royal zenith
wow what a cool tool
pseudo merlin
That is indeed a cool tool
Ngl my brain can not process this information
Do I press CA natty or no ?
royal zenith
you don't
pseudo merlin
Thx friend
royal zenith
always align with trees
convoke always with CA and trees
in a nuttyshell
there's specific fights in this raid where you want to mix and match cd's though
but for that you use lorrgs
pseudo merlin
lorgokz?
royal zenith
(aka first boss of the raid it makes sense to only rip one set of CA with convoke + trees and hold so you can have 2 CA's during damage amp around 2:00 in)
etc.
pseudo merlin
yeah but now its pad
royal zenith
pseudo merlin
depending on comp i guess
idk I feel like things die so easily
bombshell nerfs made it so they start walking so quick
youre basically just stealing cleave
Anyway @royal zenith can I hook my xbox up to a DP monitor
royal zenith
don't think Xbox has DP port or
pseudo merlin
monitor doesnt have sound anyway
royal zenith
so you'd have to find a source to relay sound too
then should be fine if you get a converter
pseudo merlin
wait does DP actually not have sound
royal zenith
depends on the type as far as I remember
in general it doesn't
that's why you usually want HDMI
pseudo merlin
Why do I ever trust you
I swear you're just trying to lead me down the wrong path
royal zenith
thing of the past then
pseudo merlin
ye maybe
royal zenith
I did sell laptops
pseudo merlin
I've ´returned a lot of products to mediamarkt
the shit those people have to d eal with
holy
pseudo merlin
ngl it sounds kinda fun
royal zenith
nah was terrible
royal zenith
there's no margins on Laptops, they sell Macbooks at a price below actual value
aka you always need to correct it by selling extra shit
pseudo merlin
Like helping someone make the right choice sounds fun
pseudo merlin
aka you always need to correct it by selling extra shit
ah
ok yeah fuck that upselling nonsense if you need to be doing that
royal zenith
quiet drift
Modern Displayport completly gaps hdmi
lyric junco
but for that you use lorrgs
ngl, I played one 8/8M run on my boomie, then I felt like a dumbass after because I only got a 70 avg parse so I used Lorrgs to get the CD timings for top logs and put it in Timeline Reminders
quiet drift
0 reason to go Hdmi
lyric junco
Stonks going up next time
quiet drift
👍
pseudo merlin
0 reason to go Hdmi
I can't sweettalk my DP port into becoming an HDMI port can I
fossil hemlock
You can with enough money (get better components)
quiet drift
This
pseudo merlin
I just paid like 1.5k for a monitor
royal zenith
ngl, I played one 8/8M run on my boomie, then I felt like a dumbass after becaus...
always just copy paste honestly
pseudo merlin
IT has 2x HDMI and 1x DP
royal zenith
especially on farm
quiet drift
IT has 2x HDMI and 1x DP
Waduh
fossil hemlock
But I'm also pretty sure you can just get a DP->HDMI converter (or the other way if that's what you need)
quiet drift
When was it released?
royal zenith
I need to set up reminders next tier though
pseudo merlin
But I'm also pretty sure you can just get a DP->HDMI converter (or the other way...
DP to HDMI is free
The other way around is not free
royal zenith
one DP port
pseudo merlin
DP uses timed signals so needs a powered converter to add those
royal zenith
Widescreen?
pseudo merlin
32:9
royal zenith
I mean it's epic for work... but for gaming...
quiet drift
Consoles use DP nowadays no?
pseudo merlin
No
quiet drift
Oh
pseudo merlin
I mean I'm not going to answer that as a generalised thing
I just know my series S has HDMI
maiden pasture
Don't think they do, mainly cause TVs would need to broadly support DP then or
quiet drift
Ye checked mine has 2x hdmi too
pseudo merlin
its just 2x USB A and 1x HDMI on the series S
quiet drift
Havent used those since like 2018
pseudo merlin
I mean it's epic for work... but for gaming...
I'm gone PBP 50-50 it
quiet drift
Reeal
royal zenith
lyric junco
especially on farm
tbh, it's the first run I've done on druid when it hasn't been a rat, so I just winged it
royal zenith
wing it? you already making puns??
at least call it flap..
is it a split char
arn't you hunter main
pseudo merlin
I remember telling people to google "CBT beta" in SOLO (I think) discord
To find out the beta dates
We had no idea what would happen
Anyway I bought this 32:9 ultrawide QD OLED so I can picture by picture 50-50 the screen to get 2 perfect 27 inch (16:9) monitors side by side on the same screen
And PBP can suffer from issues when you use 1x HDMI and 1x DP
So I want to use both HDMI ports for PBP, leaving the DP for my console/laptop
round field
Hello boomkins, hi <@168663781931614208> <@182925977935020032>, hope everyone's ...
I hate you
royal zenith
yeah I mean I get the 50/50, just not sure I'd use it for anything gaming at home
but maybe it's epic
pseudo merlin
Well I want the clean look and the quality of the QD OLED, and buying 2 seperate QD oleds of the same quality would actually be more expensive
cloud plover
I hate you
iqni..
royal zenith
that's fair
pseudo merlin
And I also want to have the option to 21:9 widescreen some games
fossil hemlock
Is the tech advanced enough to be seamless? Then I can see the benefit if you don't like the monitor edges between your 2 screens
pseudo merlin
So like this tags all the boxes
And I might get into sim racing in the future, ACTUALLY utilising the 32:9 fully
royal zenith
think quite a lot of games are supporting 21:9 at least
pseudo merlin
Is the tech advanced enough to be seamless? Then I can see the benefit if you do...
From what I've gathered it is
fossil hemlock
And I might get into sim racing in the future, ACTUALLY utilising the 32:9 fully
Don't let your memes be dreams, start it right meow
royal zenith
more than 120 refresh rate for wow
you will DEFINITELY notice that during particle effects...
cope...
pseudo merlin
I was kind of hung up on the refresh rate, but like higher just doesn't exist
Itl be years before we see 32:9 QD oled 360
My monitor is 144 and my laptop is 120 and I dont think I notice the difference
glacial spindle
Not a druid related question but I just returned to the game and trying to get all addons set back up which is proving time consuming. Is there a good setting for "update interval" on details to impact fps as little as possible?
pseudo merlin
Not a druid related question but I just returned to the game and trying to get a...
0.2 is what I have I think
royal zenith
yeah I have it set to like 0.3 afaik
glacial spindle
Appreciate the fast reply ty
fossil hemlock
Set it to 10, then you don't get to see the flameshaper evoker giga high above you until your convoke ends
pseudo merlin
Don't let your memes be dreams, start it right meow
I think I blew out my turbo when street racing yesterday, so I might be in for a treat of like a 6k repair cost at the dealer to my real car before I invest into any sim racing setup
😂
fossil hemlock
pseudo merlin
Was my fault, I was granny shifting instead of double clutching as I should've been doing
lyric junco
is it a split char
We don't do splits. I was just interested to try push M+ on it, then it got kinda good geared and my hunter is Full BiS and had to buy off spec pieces with his last dinar, so I decided I'd try get full BiS on druid too and then see how I could do in raid in case hunter isn't great next tier and boomie is
Mans is securing his raid spot one way or another
lofty depot
What makes u think hunter isn't great next tier
lofty depot
Also if u have multiple of eithrr
royal zenith
it confirms what Ive been thinking of you!!
lofty depot
I don't care what u think of me tho
lofty depot
People are have
lofty depot
What are buckets in this context
royal zenith
same class/spec as alt or split
round field
Too many
pseudo merlin
Someone needs to stop this man..
lofty depot
Also, maybe his guildies didn't want to learn druid, so it's just easier to have him play 4 druids for splits
lyric junco
What makes u think hunter isn't great next tier
Nothing, I haven't and won't look at numbers until the season starts. I just want options
lofty depot
Nothing, I haven't and won't look at numbers until the season starts. I just wan...
If ur the only druid u don't need options 🧠
??
fossil hemlock
new build today??
New LEGO set?
royal zenith
LEGO is goated
lyric junco
If ur the only druid u don't need options 🧠
I am not the only druid. I'm a hunter main and we have 3 hunters with me and 2 druids without me. It's about which is tuned better
lofty depot
Sounds like u need to get off both
lofty depot
Too many mystic people, got a find tier slot with few people
lyric junco
Joe, you, me, turned
Don't forget Thrax.
cloud plover
@round field i locked in balance split alt arent u happy im gonna be here so much more 
lucid olive
this encrypted build has entropy
Don't you mean voidman
lucid olive
That's apparently the placeholder name internally
royal zenith
👀
lofty depot
Voidman take me by the hand
royal zenith
No..
analog monolith
hey, could someone give me some infos around the current state of keeper of the grove tier, since i dont play ptr myself. (mostly interested in m+)
i press incarn (15sec, my dryads spawns (10 sec)
all dmg i do 5% are stored into the 2 next starsurges after dryads expires. (blizzard kinda wanting us to do this in the remaining 5secs of our cooldowns i guess)
but the buff lasts 45seconds, so we can just never press starsurge until next incarn, so those starsurges count into our next dryad.
this way we can use our 2 charge system to "double dip" they dryads twice and then sending even bigger star surges at the last 5 secs of our third incarn
correct till there?
lucid olive
sure
lucid olive
i don't think you would do that though
analog monolith
just seeing those clips and trying to understand whats happened
- read tettles wow eha dpost where it sounds like we can repeat it forever which we dont right?
lucid olive
you technically can repeat it for 3 sets of CA/incarn
but you wouldnt do it in practice really
scenic mist
+ read tettles wow eha dpost where it sounds like we can repeat it forever which...
you cant, incarn as too long of a cd
lucid olive
in raid you might probably use back to back casts of CA and play for like a 3 minute burst
analog monolith
ye, thats what i found misleading about the article. but i think the intended way form lbizz is already pretty cool.
scenic mist
- the perceived value of doing thius is to get bigger and bigger buffed surges, but in m+ it's quite easy to get to the dmg cap of the dryad iirc
lucid olive
the dryad spells doesn't benefit from your 4pc (and currently its Starsurge casts have no dmg event to them so the Dryad just stands there)
the 4pc also has a total cap of how much dmg it can pool
analog monolith
ok so what happens if press incarn right after first one but dont starsurge in between?
does the buff "stack" or do i waste one
lucid olive
currently the cap is 50% of your max HP whenever the dryad despawns
in AoE that cap is a lot easier to hit
so carrying the buff through separate windows isn't really that good
scenic mist
does the buff "stack" or do i waste one
no stack, you'll waste if still have a stack when 2nd dryad fades
lucid olive
unless it's in a situation like Big Momma on Floodgate where you can send CDs on the AoE phase to hit the cap and then carry that buff into CDs on the dmg amp ST phase
analog monolith
ok so this would jsut be a wyay to "double dip" the first dryad immediately
scenic mist
currently the cap is 50% of your max HP whenever the dryad despawns
lmao this is where the bear hotw tech comes from
lucid olive
yes
scenic mist
ok so this would jsut be a wyay to "double dip" the first dryad immediately
we've gone from quadruple dipping (if you will) to just double dipping
sad
analog monolith
i saw somehting mentioned like double tab incarn for 2 drayds, but that never can be worth it evne in m+ for a mega bigpull or somehting right?
scenic mist
as 2p doesnt proc on 4p surges anymore
lucid olive
nah that sounds troll
analog monolith
what u mean wiht "gone from" was somehting changed?
lucid olive
yes
scenic mist
as 2p doesnt proc on 4p surges anymore
this
lucid olive
last week they made the dryad not benefit from the 4pc anymore
on last round of raid testing for example people were doing full dam on pull and then pressing Starfall for 30 seconds until the buff was about to run out and then pressing Incarn again and having the Dryad hit 50m Starsurge casts
scenic mist
last round as in not current round
analog monolith
are the dryad copying our spells casts or just do surges on their own?
scenic mist
are the dryad copying our spells casts or just do surges on their own?
they just copy starfall casts at the moment, but this isnt how tooltip suggests it should work
lucid olive
their Starsurge casts actually has never done any damage
analog monolith
ook but the bug aside, so befroe they got the stored dmg into their casts? all of them?
analog monolith
ok but that was obviously a bugfix then not a nerf, cuase it doesnt even sound like it should benefit form that
scenic mist
ok but that was obviously a bugfix then not a nerf, cuase it doesnt even sound l...
?
it could have
makes no sense to call it a bug
they just restricted the usage
analog monolith
but isnt a buff that says "your next 2 starsurges"?
lucid olive
ok but that was obviously a bugfix then not a nerf, cuase it doesnt even sound l...
They also changed the Dryad's Starsurge from 70% to 30% in the tier set tooltip
scenic mist
but isnt a buff that says "your next 2 starsurges"?
2p says dryad copies 30% of your surges
lucid olive
On spells that have never done damage
analog monolith
so if a "totem?" that just casts some starsurge on their own benefits form it without using up thos estacsk it sounds like a bug to me
scenic mist
but isnt a buff that says "your next 2 starsurges"?
so your 2 big surges can be copied 30% value by the dryad
scenic mist
so if a "totem?" that just casts some starsurge on their own benefits form it wi...
you didnt get it
lucid olive
so if a "totem?" that just casts some starsurge on their own benefits form it wi...
the definition doesn't really matter
There's way too much inconsistency with WoW spells to be able to define what is a bug or not
analog monolith
thats why set i read, sry if its wrong
lucid olive
They changed the number from 70% to 30%
scenic mist
thats why set i read, sry if its wrong
what happens in your mind when you cast a 100M surge while a dryad is up ? when you look at this 2p tooltip
lucid olive
Your 4PC also doesn't say "your next 2 Starsurges damage for an additional amount equal to 5% of your damage done while it was active, up to a maximum of 50% of your health when the dryad fades"
that doesn't mean its a bug
analog monolith
okay, im probably dumb pls be patient with me. i asked if dryads copy or surges or do just rnaodm one son their own
so thats why i thought its not copys of ours
lucid olive
currently they don't do any of them
scenic mist
okay, im probably dumb pls be patient with me. i asked if dryads copy or surges ...
they should copy, but they dont
lucid olive
they pretend to cast but the cast does 0 damage
scenic mist
Dryads had a vasectomy
shooting blanks
lucid olive
they cast 1 Starfall on spawn that gives Starlord and Harmony of the Heavens
and then AFKs
analog monolith
okay but they should cast a starsurge if i cast one
scenic mist
okay but they should cast a starsurge if i cast one
this is how i read the 2p tooltip but not how it worked since ptr realease
and this is the bugged part, at least somewhere in the dryad's behavior
analog monolith
and thats why it makes sense that the 30% effectiveness could/should also inherit the 4pc.
lucid olive
The Dryad casts 5 Starsurges
Their cast time is based on your haste
Default cast time is 2 seconds
but it's always 5
lucid olive
there's also a ton of spec talents their cast doesn't benefit from
At least it didn't last week when they did damage
analog monolith
besides the 0 dmg bug, would u think or want the set to stay liek it is. or is there any change a majority of people want from blizz?
lucid olive
set is fine
analog monolith
just from my own perspective for now i kinda dont like the incentive to use icnarn as a 3min cd or the press starfall until next incarn
lucid olive
you wont press starfall until next incarn
analog monolith
ye probably thats just a cool clip from ptr thingy
lucid olive
playing 3 min burst would just be a choice depending on encounter really
in M+ you will hit the cap on the 4pc on every round of CDs usually so don't see a reason to hold the buff unless you're gonna be fighting a boss after
scenic mist
just from my own perspective for now i kinda dont like the incentive to use icna...
would NOT do that on m+ anyway, even before the fix
broken quail
u know any nice youtubers that main balance?
analog monolith
wouldnt it be fine to reduce the buff timer? i mean theoretically they could make it 5 sec and force us to use it in the same incarn. which obviously has flaws
scenic mist
wouldnt it be fine to reduce the buff timer? i mean theoretically they could mak...
2sec is a small window for 2 spells
analog monolith
isnt it 5?
analog monolith
oh ye sry
pseudo merlin
u know any nice youtubers that main balance?
probably naguura
lucid olive
u know any nice youtubers that main balance?
naguura, krona, dwilkz
analog monolith
i just m+ casual, so my brain is just there sry
broken quail
also, is there a new set thread in the compendium?
analog monolith
i mean right now there are some firstpulls where u use double incarn at the start and sometimes can go for 2 stacks later in the keys for crucial pulls depending on comb
lucid olive
yeah I put them in collapsibles because that shit took up half the page
analog monolith
i think they could buff the duration of the elune set for m+ though, 20sec can be ahrd to carry into next pull
depending on when u last procc at the end of a pull and how much dots u need to apply in the new one
broken quail
you didnt even bother opening it
no, I wanted to chat here a bit
lucid olive
respectable
scenic mist
no, I wanted to chat here a bit
scenic mist
respectable
u got the wrong guy
lofty depot
Voidman
royal zenith
no..
round field
<@168663781931614208> i locked in balance split alt arent u happy im gonna be he...
Im leaving
cloud plover
Im leaving
I can't wait to hang out lots yippeeee
round field
I hate you
cloud plover
I hate you
we're both playing shadow and boomie it's gonna be soooo cool 
round field
he wont play shadow
Wrong
lofty depot
Shadow big fun
ember oxide
dont let iqni reroll to shadow cus I'll have to coach him
cloud plover
iqni should coach me bamkin then I coach him shadow so we can hang out lots
lucid olive
iqni should coach me bamkin then I coach him shadow so we can hang out lots
spread dot use cooldowns use builder spend to avoid overcap
cloud plover
spread dot use cooldowns use builder spend to avoid overcap
is ur name iqni
silly gums
lucid olive
it could be
lofty depot
He's gonna inqi
plucky valley
lucid olive
hate naps
leaden birch
racist
cloud plover
you could interpret it was such
leaden birch
I never considered it tbh, because in my brain I thought it just referred to a type of hair
and tpains music label
cloud plover
havent thought about it either but i can see it if u think around 10 corners
leaden birch
I've said it many times around a bunch of black people
because they were talking about it
it was all fine
until like 10 minutes into the conversation I said I didn't prefer that type of hair on women, kinda how I don't like curly hair on women
thats when they all called me racist 
lucid olive
well considering i replied to this i clearly didn't talk about nappy hair
leaden birch
i know i was teasing
plucky valley
and tpains music label
Wow you are so funny
leaden birch
is that not his music label?
round field
iqni should coach me bamkin then I coach him shadow so we can hang out lots
Bamkin coaching is like biggest waste of money ever
Like what the fuck do i tell you
Press wrath stsrsurge more
lucid olive
Bamkin coaching is like biggest waste of money ever
agreege
"cast more", "don't stand afk", "don't sunfire inside your cooldowns"
maiden pasture
All wow coaching is the same man. Always cast, review your own logs, look at prio list
lucid olive
yeee
get DMs asking for coaching and i feel like a fraud so i just send compendium and link to streamers
maiden pasture
Think like healers might have some nuance where it's not just do what the robot says and GG but even still from what mates have said it's not something u need coaching
maiden pasture
get DMs asking for coaching and i feel like a fraud so i just send compendium an...
Me when I hallucinate
round field
Think like healers might have some nuance where it's not just do what the robot ...
True
maiden pasture
Ain't nobody want your chopped coaching 😭
round field
Its do what mrt note says
scenic mist
how do you reconcile being in bear when the dryad fades and casting 2 surges in the next 2 sec before end of CA @lucid olive ?
maiden pasture
Its do what mrt note says
Ye but like in between the way to do mini ramps and shit have some nuance supposedly. Idk I played disc and that's as easy as playing DPS
maiden pasture
I got respect for like reactive healers that have to stare at raid frames while doing mechanics
lucid olive
how do you reconcile being in bear when the dryad fades and casting 2 surges in ...
you try and make it work
if not then gg
maiden pasture
But anyone that says disc is hard I think is huffing mega copium
scenic mist
leaden birch
is disc giga easy?
maiden pasture
is disc giga easy?
I think it is. You play snake on raid frames like 12 seconds before mechanic happens, then do a DPS rotation
But I only played it for like half a season
lucid olive
remember to ask for innervate before all that
celest narwhal
Hey; i thought you had to kill a boos to be able to receive loot from it in vault
maiden pasture
Nope
celest narwhal
is it just all loot before that boss
lucid olive
yes
maiden pasture
You kill past that boss and you unlock everything before
They changed that in dragonflight s2
maiden pasture
Nope
lucid olive
people were intentionally skipping bosses that dropped trash loot in Vault of the Incarnates to not get the vault unlock for the boss
celest narwhal
I got BIS
maiden pasture
people were intentionally skipping bosses that dropped trash loot in Vault of th...
I still don't have mythic terros achievement 
lucid olive
L
maiden pasture
W
lucid olive
not being in for pr
g
celest narwhal
people were intentionally skipping bosses that dropped trash loot in Vault of th...
yeh I knew that one. and i tohught they made it so if u killed the last boss then it wasy just always all boss lot
didnt know it was for any boss
maiden pasture
Moonkin so strong df S1 single target
Motherfuckers were pressing trees for damage that season
celest narwhal
but i still need frikin HOC
ill replace it pretty fast next szn anyways but it is annoying
lucid olive
Motherfuckers were pressing trees for damage that season
as opposed to now
leaden birch
You do like one delve and you get it
frosty grotto
Is anyone having trouble simming different gem variations on raidbots?
lucid olive
no
lofty depot
Is anyone having trouble simming different gem variations on raidbots?
Define trouble
lucid olive
can you elaborate what your issue is
lofty depot
can you elaborate what your issue is
Probably doesn't have replace gems selected
"guys it's not working"
frosty grotto
Im trying to sim new gear, and when I select different gems to sim with to maximize the diamond bonus, the gems arent simming.
lofty depot
Show sim
frosty grotto
You were right, I didn't have replace existing gems selected. I just reset my computer the other day and it must have messed with those settings
lucid olive
yeah its stored on your browsers cookies
lofty depot
Galaxy brain
leaden birch
anyone get any cool mounts from the event yet
maiden pasture
Got the charger one from the goblin
Haven't framed any dungeons or raid cause fuck that
leaden birch
this event is making me regret not getting the nighthold skip
maiden pasture
There's a discord where people share the skipb
leaden birch
the secret finding disc?
maiden pasture
And a GitHub project to share lockouts between you're own chars
Someone linked in my guild chat yday lemme find
leaden birch
sick ty
maiden pasture
I'll DM actually, linking discords doesn't belong in this chat
leaden birch
sick ty
sturdy apex
Hello fellow Boomers, i have a simple question, does blooming infusion resets on Boss Pull?
scenic mist
yes
sturdy apex
so it resets
okay ty
does this also mean we dont really play around blooming infusion?
its just a nice to have insta regrowths but not to aim for the SF or W 100% Amplifier?
scenic mist
you dont play around it, no
it's just usefull to fill a global when moving and out of asp/outside pandemic
sturdy apex
allright, thank you very much
analog monolith
what ilvl drops at m0 at the start of season 3?
maiden pasture
Someone in my guild said 681
lofty depot
its just a nice to have insta regrowths but not to aim for the SF or W 100% Ampl...
There's some times during down time I be casting regrowth to then use the buff but generally no
calm ibex
pseudo merlin
I wonder if anyone ever DMs Arctic for coaching
pseudo merlin
He probably only gets DMs from people who want to be degraded
analog monolith
It do be 681
to wich ilvl i can upgrade it before it needs runed crest?
lofty depot
uhhhh m0 track isnt runed ever
its veteran track iirc
which is equal to 4/8 champ
(unless it starts champ track 1/8)
then u can upgrade it to 4/8 champ and not cost runed
pure juniper
Any recomend vid yt for balance rotasion skill ? sry im new player
pure juniper
thanks
fallen lantern
Does Boomkin have the hardest hitting ability in PTR? I mena 1 hit only biggest number
celest narwhal
I’m banking on people doing m0’s with me and trading me gear so I can play my priest asap
lucid olive
Does Boomkin have the hardest hitting ability in PTR? I mena 1 hit only biggest ...
maybe
young ermine
Hello everyone, I have a question. I am almost at mythic level for everything except my helmet and trinkets, and now I have obtained the mythic level priory trinket, but when I check, it says that my HC trinket does more damage, but the check is in boss mode, as we have to do. I would appreciate your help in explaining why this is happening, or if the HC is currently superior. When it comes to Mythic Plus, I want to know which one is better.
lucid olive
house of cards better than signet generally
young ermine
house of cards better than signet generally
But in dungeons? It's true, I didn't specify that, I forgot.
lucid olive
sure
dry compass
House of cards gives more secondary stat than an equal ilevel signet and has a lower cd that better lines up with CA
lucid olive
lower cooldown leads to easier line up
dry compass
And those are compounding effects that makes it substantially more valuable than the ilevel difference would make it appear
young ermine
Thank you very much, guys, I really did have serious doubts.
fossil shard
I wonder if anyone ever DMs Arctic for coaching
i usually just dm him to flame him when hes floor pov on mage
lofty depot
When am I floor pov on mage
lofty depot
If mage dies, theyre being shit
lofty depot
We recruited 2 mages after I said I was swapping because I said oh it'll be fine we can use them for gally... We proceeded to sit 2 cuz they have room temp iq
1 of which is like 3639 io
obsidian girder
there are so many ppl with high rio that simply suck at doing raids
crisp scaffold
anyone got a string for keeper of the grove m+ build ?
lofty depot
U time the key 1 time and fail it 500 other times
lofty depot
anyone got a string for keeper of the grove m+ build ?
Compendium
lofty depot
cloud plover
there are so many ppl with high rio that simply suck at doing raids
nobody believes me when i said this about our 3.7 boomie who disengaged through the raid on rashanan with the web
crisp gyro
Guys on ptr we also play keepers of the Groove on m + yes ?
lucid olive
Maybe maybe not
Could depend on the key
You should try out both and make an informed decision
lofty depot
Ptr is for testing, u play what u want
nova ocean
Ptr is for sandbagging
lofty depot
No I want full bis guide for ptr
They're not ready for that guide
pseudo merlin
go on then
@mighty mica
<@&114146878353833984>
So you talk about a funny meme and suddenly an alt account drops a scam link @lofty depot
lofty depot
Yea weird
pseudo merlin
lofty depot
Thoughts?
pseudo merlin
lol
lofty depot
Gamz doesn't troll like that
lofty depot
I miss hytes
fossil shard
Ban
pseudo merlin
where's gilly
fossil shard
Somewhere vibing
lofty depot
Hasn't turned on his computer in a month
fossil shard
Yeah I think they’re guild got roster bossed this tier so they were just vibing
pseudo merlin
oof
lucid olive
Yeah I think they’re guild got roster bossed this tier so they were just vibing
Gilly went to Vodka after that
fossil shard
Man @lofty depot when I clicked on the noti and the first thing I saw was a thyme tag above. Panik
Oh HELL ya
My goat
lofty depot
Man <@121360917907767296> when I clicked on the noti and the first thing I saw w...
Yea ravec ruined the meme
Kept fucking tagging people
vale pebble
I miss <@246708743738359808>
lofty depot
Chicken is a eeler now :/
vale pebble
ur wronmg
lofty depot
Spr?
fossil shard
https://tenor.com/view/ling-gang-linga-guli-guli-gif-149092093077543302
The gif goat returns
vale pebble
ur very bad at this
pseudo merlin
Yea ravec ruined the meme
???
eager raft
monk
vale pebble
not any of those
lofty depot
Hmmm, chickenxd does have parses....
vale pebble
chickenxd is oce
slim iris
where's gilly
Wisconsin colorado michigan milwaukee this week Indiana next week back to colorado in august back to wisconsin in september ggs
Fuck all this
I love my people though
slim iris
My goat
Nope
Gillym ran it down
Pleural was serviceable i think
Heart was just not all in it
No hard feelings
Love fresh air
slim iris
Nope
pseudo merlin
Wisconsin colorado michigan milwaukee this week Indiana next week back to colora...
oh shit, huge
slim iris
Think pc is gonna stay off
pseudo merlin
you touring?
slim iris
For the rest of the summer at least
pseudo merlin
get me tickets
slim iris
Just concerts weddings and shordies
slim iris
you touring?
Been feeling like it tho
lofty depot
I have been on the Dune GRIND
I started played Dota for the first time in 4 years
And I'm ass, so gotta play on the alt
slim iris
Golf game still slacking @vital hound
broken quail
good vid to see somethign about balnce druid for 11.2?
lucid olive
I should make one of those
digital berry
good vid to see somethign about balnce druid for 11.2?
it stil is all up in the air
bit too early to make video guides or tier lists
vital hound
Golf game still slacking <@126112819476168705>
slim iris
🍆
exotic perch
is this a pic of your grazing grounds
vital hound
i have an unsustainable love/hate relationship with the thing
good for the ol bod tho
exotic perch
i understand that feeling