cool ty
#balance
fossil flame
is that bullshit one button rotation make people better then guys who are really tryuing aand know their rotation
shy void
it doesn't do better than someone who plays manually
but it can perform better than people who are sucky
dense steeple
is that bullshit one button rotation make people better then guys who are really...
if someone knows the rotation and are trying, then no the 1 button will not make you better
like not even close
the one button for boomy is so bad
fossil flame
cause im really upset i hjadn't p[layed in 7 years, i was ALWAYS resto from bc till legion, came back like right before this xpans dropped and went boomy, i had to learn mad shit and i was trash and im still not great but i was gettin beter, i parsed an 86 on a mythi cfight, felt great
i spoke to you guys,r ead shit, talked to guildides , looked at logs to get better and some dude coming in and beating me out with one button enrages me
dense steeple
id have to see the log to believe that he beat you with one button
fossil flame
oh it hasn't happened in real life yet, we took a break a month ago from raiding, just havne't seen how it works yet
so im just annoyed if its that way i was saying
dense steeple
so you make yourself mad over hypotheticals? thats a whole different issue bud
fossil flame
idc if it helps people im cool with that and i get the premise, i just dont wanna be out dpsed by some dud epressing one button when im really giving it a good shot
im not like mad, im not walking around my hosue with my fist balled, just chatting about it
dense steeple
you will not be outdpsed by a guy using one button rotation unless youre dead on the floor and he lives.
fossil flame
ive just seen a lot of the content creators making videos and doom and glooming and dont know how much is real or just that
lucid olive
im not like mad, im not walking around my hosue with my fist balled, just chatti...
jason pov
fossil flame
lmao
dense steeple
content creators making content to make money, name a better duo
fossil flame
nah , well see, im not a critical guy with games, especially wow, im forgiving and its just a game ill always love and play regardlesss
we'll*
shy void
https://tenor.com/view/arthur-fist-gif-23915056
LOL
exotic perch
did they buff them
shy void
seems like when you would previously get 0 you now get 1
i dunno if you get 5 of them more often
exotic perch
all i know from doing the goblins earlier this week was getting a pet every fucking box
dense steeple
I def get 5 a lot but yeah 1 is minimum now
delicate perch
all i know from doing the goblins earlier this week was getting a pet every fuck...
1 pet 1 blood shard
thank you blizzard!
hollow mist
thank you blizzard!
thank u blizzard, very cool!
spark anchor
@wicked shuttle was ur obr vid made with the hekili wa
delicate perch
The first day a sold the pet for 5k
I would simply pay 5k to not loot another one
delicate perch
<@181597658438172682> was ur obr vid made with the hekili wa
@vital hound crazy ping
spark anchor
<@126112819476168705> crazy ping
wat
delicate perch
you heard me
delicate perch
dw just being a silly goose, from memory he was just raw dogging one button and changing target to dot though
spark anchor
ya thought so
he responded in dms saying that
some stuff going around that he did use it rho
delicate perch
wholesome tettles
spark anchor
but i know my chicken goat would never
only evil mages would modify their game with wa
delicate perch
idk I did a few keys with it and it felt pre fine, only annoying part was movement/having to change targets to dot
spark anchor
real
vital hound
<@126112819476168705> crazy ping
I love unrealistic confidence
we're living in their world
jade flume
I will never use obr on god
sudden flame
You already basically do by playing boomkin in m+ 
jade flume
Bamkin is pinnacle of skill expression
royal zenith
I will never use obr on god
promise?
jade flume
Yes
pallid bay
5th...
teal minnow
Bamkin is pinnacle of skill expression
truth, the way you press starfall tells you all you need to know about a person
fossil hemlock
also when release date
They almost definitely want the tier to start before Gamescom, so they can do their Midnight reveal when we know how this expansion ends
So season probably starts 6th and tier 13th
Patch at 6th, not season
small elbow
6th of what
sudden flame
terrible release date
Double edge knife i want new season as soon as possible since this season is so stale to me now
but then everyone is on holiday
fossil hemlock
Either that or they throw a curveball and it's on the 6th, but I seriously doubt that
fossil hemlock
but then everyone is on holiday
Most people are on holiday here in july not august, very region dependant
vital hound
nah i think the mathing has been correct based on dungeon test schedule and turb timeways
sudden flame
We all playing mop anyway
vital hound
royal zenith
13th seems plausible
vital hound
pallid bay
Once the main event of the Trial of Style is done, and if one stays behind, the two announcers will walk to an entrance that is blocked off and speak to her.
Shadreen says: Have you gathered the information I require?
Nastasia Flairwatcher says: Yes, here are the results.
Shadreen says: ...you have done well. My master shall be pleased to see this.
🤯
Shadreen sent an agent called Xan-Sallish to the Brawler's Guild in order to have them record everything related to the local adventurers, especially the way they fight and equip themselves
small elbow
If it's august I'm fucked. Going on holiday in that week
vital hound
> Once the main event of the Trial of Style is done, and if one stays behind, th...
what on earth are you talking about
sudden flame
round field
i love trial of release date leak
fossil hemlock
The season should definitely be out by then yeah
ornate quest
With HoC and BiS weapon, do I want to macro both with CA where I’d prioritize using HoC first and then BiS for 2nd CA?
round field
you can yes
little cove
vital hound
sim it
royal zenith
it's what simmed best for my character
round field
either vers mastery or haste
royal zenith
there's also a pinned post with info
terse tartan
fossil hemlock
Since forever
wicked flax
it was a thing 6 years ago
jaunty fjord
do you use the same spec from M+ for raid or a diff spec for raid? ilevel 672
i was on testing dummy and do 2.3mil ST on M+ spec for only 1.4mil ST on raid spec
and for raiding dummy 1.75mil M+ and 1.22m raid specs , same gear same duration and got specs off arcon :\ lol
jade flume
Keeper in raid elune in m+
i would just get builds from logs tbh
Idk what builds there are in archon
cloud plover
gm balance chat, gm @round field & @royal zenith hope you'll all have an amazing day 
round field
fk u
jade flume
Gm
cloud plover
i dont drink coffee!!
round field
then spill whatever you weirdos drink
cloud plover
tbh i dont drink anything usually in mornings, maybe some water later
and spilling that is hard considering it has a straw
jade flume
Ur water comes with a straw?
dense gust
does your mythic + rating drop to 0 during a new season
round field
yes
cloud plover
Ur water comes with a straw?
my bottle does
cloud plover
so nobody will know if ur decent or not
people can tell usually based on ur last season score
jade flume
so nobody will know if ur decent or not
People will check with raider io addons and shit
dense gust
ahh ic
ig i should try to do some m+ now or somethin
hard to find invites tho maybe if i hit ilvl 670 ill get into a +7
cloud plover
game dead, good luck
royal zenith
you will see the score you got the tier before
that's about it
best is just to get friends/premade start of a tier
get some base-score
jade flume
Deux showing off with his friends havingness smh my h
dense gust
i just want to get into a +10 for guaranteed m chest but ppl are really picky
my 664 lock wouldnt even get into a +7
cloud plover
i just want to get into a +10 for guaranteed m chest but ppl are really picky
yeah i mean im not inviting anything sub 680 thats not also 3k+ and mainrole for my keys, why bother with anyone less trustworthy
and even that fails sometimes..
jade flume
If u arent 690+ and 4k+ raio are u even playing game
royal zenith
people acting like wow should be some non-profit
I'm here to grind my keys, quick in and out!!
jade flume
It can be frustrating tbf, i think we have all been there
royal zenith
it 100% is
round field
my 664 lock wouldnt even get into a +7
yea thats how the game works
if ur late to the party
it absolutely sucks
week 20 of the patch is not it
jade flume
Im never late to the party because im never invited so i dont go out
azure shell
hey guys, thinking of giving balance a go in 11.2, do we still use moons? or is it mostly just eclipses now
royal zenith
We hardly use moons at the moment
it's either convoke for KOTG or FoE for Elune's chosen
azure shell
its been a long long time since ive played it, sorry if its a silly question lol
royal zenith
it's not, was just contemplating what choice there is between moons and eclipses
figured you meant that we 'just' use eclipses
azure shell
oh yeah sorry, yeah just wanted to make sure we dont use moons anymore
royal zenith
but yeah baseline it's eclipses + convoke or FoE
azure shell
FoE after dots and into eclipses and profit
azure shell
gotcha, thats a start, tyvm 😄
jade flume
I miss moons
azure shell
dont think i ever worked out when to use it tbh lol
jade flume
Last time i played it was pretty simple, use in incarn without overcapping
If u will cap before use 1 stack at the start of eclipse for boat value
royal zenith
last iteration was pretty straight forward ye
jade flume
You could just ignore which one it was really, as long as u made sure you wont cap astral power
Since full moon was like 50 ap
azure shell
ahh that makes more sense now
fossil hemlock
I miss moons
Legion moons filled such a nice rotational spot
There's not really any room for that at the moment though
fossil hemlock
It was also nice in shadowlands yeah, fitting moons into pulsar procs
round field
Venthyr was the last time we had an actual rotation
Wrong
Only "rotation" was looking at weakaura to tell you when to press foe and trinkets
It was still the shit wrath wrath starsurge gameplay loop
royal zenith
"In gaming, a "rotation" typically refers to a sequence of actions or movements, often involving a series of skills, positions, or strategies, designed to maximize effectiveness and achieve a specific goal."
I'm literally not wrong
So I dunno
calm down BUDDY
round field
How far youve fallen
royal zenith
it's not about quality in a discussion
it's about speed
overwhelming the opponent
round field
You really do have
Overwhelming stupidity
Do we like
Zugzug ca into ca next patch
You probably know deux
Venthyr bamkin style
royal zenith
No we don't
afaik they 'fixed' that interaction
unless..
@lucid olive what is the latest update anyway
supposedly it's "Keeper of the Grove tier set on PTR is currently bugged and the spawned Dryad does not do any damage outside of casting a Starfall on spawn. Any Starsurge it casts is purely visual, hopefully this will be rectified."
lucid olive
Yes
You can still CA into CA
The dryad just won't do anything anyway
Assuming you can hit the cap on both CAs I guess
royal zenith
can? or should?
lucid olive
Don't have any sims so who knows
lucid olive
Double CA is what Dak and Recruitie are doing and hitting 130m starsurges
With heart of the wild and going bear form as the dryad is expiring to increase the cap
wicked shuttle
Need the robot
round field
wicked shuttle
With heart of the wild and going bear form as the dryad is expiring to increase ...
This is SURELY not the right thing to do
lucid olive
I'm scared that the set is too good funnel in m+ so we end up getting nerfed and being shit in raid
misty glade
Aren't we usually pretty poor in raid
round field
yes
wicked shuttle
From what I’ve seen during testing we’re pretty OP in raid
In M+ there are some turbo broken specs rn
lucid olive
Ye and we're one of em
misty glade
My friends refuse to listen to me bitch about having poor ST in raid since we're meta in m+. The jerks.
round field
well tbh
we are always
super good in raid test
and then end up being underwhelming live
lucid olive
I was oneshotting minibosses on 13 Priory lmao
wicked shuttle
I haven’t played in a week, but Spriest, Enhance, MM, Havoc, BM all did obscene damage as well
round field
yup
lucid olive
Did a Floodgate with arcane and mm, that was interesting
pallid bay
Need the robot
ive got the spreadsheet
round field
leak
wicked shuttle
For better or worse moonkin won’t survive bc taking chunks out of mobs HP isn’t acceptable by some people
And they’re gonna think it’s OP no matter the truth
royal zenith
Ive seen some tierlists and content creators
people are already hardriding the hatewagon for bamkin
as per usual
lucid olive
Pet "no way your tier set doesn't get reworked before hitting live" ko
wicked shuttle
It’s a hammer or nothing
wicked shuttle
It’s definitely not getting reworked
lucid olive
I'm unsure if the dev even knows what's going on with it
meager storm
DF beta 2.0
wicked shuttle
It might catch a more serious damage cap
lucid olive
Judging by their latest change that did absolutely nothing
jade flume
Funny enough looking at people playing it on ptr, most people didnt even save it for 2nd ca
royal zenith
Unless you know what the dev is doing, you can't really be saying that
jade flume
And just sent it in 1st one
wicked shuttle
Wait the dryad still feeds into one another?
royal zenith
it's not like they update this game every day*
lucid olive
Nah the dryad doesn't do dam
wicked shuttle
Err the empowered surges rather
pallid bay
Wait the dryad still feeds into one another?
dryads favor damage feeds another dryads favor yea
scenic mist
dryads favor damage feeds another dryads favor yea
didnt gamz say it didnt anymore ?
lucid olive
So it's easier to hit the cap on your 2nd CA that way
lucid olive
didnt gamz say it didnt anymore ?
No
pallid bay
you're reading it wrong
wicked shuttle
As a compromise blizzard will remove that and make it 1% instead of 5
Final offer
scenic mist
what does that mean
jade flume
How is that tier set on single target, it just seems like omega strong when u get to cleave
scenic mist
i'm lost
jade flume
And kinda ass on st
pallid bay
dryad
wicked shuttle
That’ll get removed by virtue of it being 1%
meager storm
U are lost indeed
pallid bay
is not dryads favor
scenic mist
ok but you can still fill the 2nd dryad's pool with the 2 amped ss from 1st dryad ?
pallid bay
do damge while dryad is up -> damage added to dryads favor buff
do damage with dryads favor buff and dryad up -> damage added to dryads favor buff
lucid olive
Ye
scenic mist
k i got it
wicked shuttle
How is that tier set on single target, it just seems like omega strong when u ge...
It was insanely good last raid testing
meager storm
They will save time by making a new one instead of trying to fix all the issues it has
lucid olive
Last raid testing people also abused the heck out of the bug
wicked shuttle
We should complain like other specs
Moonkin has been bad in raid for soooooo long
We deserve this
lucid olive
I am perma complaining
royal zenith
to be fair
lucid olive
Nah start complaining
scenic mist
#M+buffisNotARaidbuff
royal zenith
we do deserve a bit of good ST for once
lucid olive
Get on the bench and go on a 30 min moonkin rant
wicked shuttle
lol
lucid olive
Everytime Growl says something you find a way to make it about moonkin being dogshit
royal zenith
I think that will make bamkin the most hated spec in the entire universe
don't do it tettles
lucid olive
"yeah so uuuh geoguessr"
"Bro on the topic of geoguessr, did you know moonkin is dogshit and should be good in raid again??"
pallid bay
u get this basically
jade flume
I dont get it
cloud plover
u get this basically
spooky numbers
jade flume
I avoid pools
pallid bay
do damge to fill the pool so you can fill the next pool with previous pool and do big surges at the end with a bigger pool
royal zenith
aka you're in luck @round field
meager storm
1 min convoke is so back
pallid bay
1min convoke stinky...
fossil hemlock
I think that will make bamkin the most hated spec in the entire universe
Wdym "make"? Max pushes the moonkin hate agenda every single tier
meager storm
Works insanely well for the tech
pallid bay
-1 surge +1 moon
pallid bay
pool
jade flume
Wdym "make"? Max pushes the moonkin hate agenda every single tier
Who is max
lucid olive
Formula 1 driver
leaden birch
lucid olive
Worsetappen or something
cloud plover
Maximilian Pegasus, creator of the Yugioh cards, obviously
leaden birch
gally was so much easier than mug lmao
lucid olive
Thought that was Trill
pallid bay
trill is the whisperer
royal zenith
should read the comments under max's video's lately
cloud plover
omg hi!
lucid olive
trill is the whisperer
Bro that's funny
royal zenith
they're peak
fossil hemlock
Who is max
Some guy who you should definitely ask about his nighthold details nickname
pallid bay
Bro that's funny
cloud plover
i cant wait to chat with iqni in shadow chat
royal zenith
you will probably a reason to never reroll
lucid olive
Cursed plce
lucid olive
Iqni can't play moonkin cause he has cotti and dappy in his guild
It's like trying to play chicken in Shade
royal zenith
who's guild is Shade's
cloud plover
except for the fact you're also active in here
I am... inevitable
pallid bay
Next tier is a 2 boomy tier holy
3..
meager storm
Will u be raiding for dimwits guild
round field
Iqni can't play moonkin cause he has cotti and dappy in his guild
dappy and cotti
worse on prog
better on farm
cause they play wow
like weirdos
cotti is like
3.7k rio
id be unstoppable if i bothered to play more than 1h per week
cloud plover
we also had a high io bamkin who had completely no hands in raid its really impressive
cloud plover
i have belt but no guild raids to use it in
vale pebble
worse on prog
🐒
🐬
leaden birch
🫃
round field
just unbind disengage
lucid olive
Surely elvanse
quiet drift
Brintellix
hollow mist
what meds we rockin
estradiol and progesterone
foggy night
what are the current BiS trinkets in PTR?
signal temple
Surely elvanse
Don't call me Shirley
lofty depot
what are the current BiS trinkets in PTR?
No one knows, can use araz, Lily, void core thing.... It's PTR test some shit
glacial spindle
Had a small break from the game, is KOTG still best for ST and did anything major change with talents?
lofty depot
Yes, and a few things changed
smoky prawn
anybody knows why dryads starsurge doesent show up on details on the ptr?
lofty depot
Cuz it currently is bugged and doesn't do damage
lucid olive
anybody knows why dryads starsurge doesent show up on details on the ptr?
we complained we didn't have good enough visuals so they added an npc that pretends to cast
very cool
and then nerfed the pretend cast from 70% to 30%
(type shit)
round field
Well currently it pretends
lucid olive
if a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it does it make sound
lofty depot
If it casts a spell but it does no damage, is it still considered a cast
round field
Yes
smoky prawn
we complained we didn't have good enough visuals so they added an npc that prete...
i dont need visuals i just want big numbers popping up
lucid olive
big numbers still pop up
smoky prawn
not at the moment 😦 but ye i would like to be in the middle of the food chain in raids at least once
digital berry
not at the moment 😦 but ye i would like to be in the middle of the food chain i...
This season we were within 5% of 96% of other dps
Just saying
digital berry
Bottom, but almost every other dps is within 5% of us so it’s kinda meaningless
smoky prawn
i think dev and hunter are a bit higher than 5% but i get your point
royal zenith
Not how stats work emnithy
royal zenith
Else your argument is by default also irrelevant
If you use the same stats to prove a point
smoky prawn
my point is that i just want balance to be part of rtwf other than bosses like stix or council type ones
royal zenith
we all want it to do better on ST
smoky prawn
i dont need to be shadowlands convoke/venthyr broken on st but just a tad bit better
royal zenith
but in boomies specific case they're scared to make it op (morgan's words)
royal zenith
🙏
obsidian jetty
but in boomies specific case they're scared to make it op (morgan's words)
basically "we really want boomy to have good spread sustained aoe, so it always ends up decent in high m+, so we have to make it bad in raid." type logic
meanwhile, spriest, destro, affi lock exist
lofty depot
statistics wise we are on the bottom end in mythic
vapid anvil
Anyone have the link to the wowhead article of how to get the legion flying mount?
lofty depot
Yea but we're really big on boss dam
Fun y parse bar doesn't mean u can't be at top of the meter
Play better
smoky prawn
thats why i said 95 percentile 😄
lofty depot
Yea and I didnt
smoky prawn
still a huge margin to the 3 top performers
jade flume
Bamkin is garbonzo
lofty depot
In the middle middle of it who cares
obsidian jetty
yea, now drop it from max to 99
royal zenith
did dk get a raidbuff yet
lofty depot
if u consider buffed AMZ a raidbuff
high zodiac
what's the typical lineup flow for CDs in ST, re: tress and celestial alignment? if they're paired in the opener, your next CA is solo, then do you hold trees for a few so they line up again?
lofty depot
your next CA isnt solo
its with 2nd trees
trees on cd
CA always with trees
Convoke always with CA
high zodiac
kk thanks
lofty depot
https://discord.com/channels/114145367322394624/121880895211831302/1380617492711...
should add bis to that 😉
scenic mist
should add bis to that 😉
edited
lofty depot
type shit
lofty depot
meh
if u dont have downtime sure
cna BIS on next incarn or if u want to use, use with a foe
wide idol
Minor downtimes or hold CA for 20sec to get it with bis. But then hoc will be sitting on 20seconds while CA is on cd for 1 min
lofty depot
sitting ready for 20 seconds isnt a big deal
worried about the wrong thing
more important to use incarn correctly...
wide idol
So just send CA when its up/big pull and try to have it with trinket/bis
lofty depot
generally
this late in the season u should generally know where and when ur pushing shit
lucid olive
prio your trinket with incarn
wide idol
And then occasionally if both CA is on cd, send bis to keep it on cd
lofty depot
u dont lose anything by holding it. u can hold a incarn for it
wide idol
Im just tryna push more dmg cus not even resi 17 this late
lofty depot
ive seen fotms do very incorrect things in 17s ull be fine
lucid olive
if you're on like 1 charge of incarn, your 2nd charge is up in (example) 50 seconds and your trinket cooldown is also about 50 seconds, then send 1 incarn charge with best in slots
but if you're on 0 charges of incarn, your 1st charge has 20 seconds cooldown, and your trinket has 50 seconds cooldown, you send Best in Slots with nothing and hold Incarn for the trinket
otherwise you end up holding the trinket for 30+ seconds
wide idol
I was checking buff uptime at HOC was like 82% and bis was like 52% (17 WS)
lofty depot
yea nothing lines up
wide idol
So just got me thinking if I should hold or something
wide idol
Before i sent bis if trinket wasnt up and CA was or CA and hoc coming off cd but bis available
lofty depot
seems fine
lucid olive
just as long as you're not losing use of either
lucid olive
you don't want to hold bis and you don't want to hold hoc
you can hold incarn
since it's a charge cooldown
wide idol
And raids also the same thing right?
lucid olive
and you don't want to send hoc without incarn
lucid olive
in raid you just send BiS with treants that aren't with convoke
lofty depot
but depends on fight like mugz
wide idol
Trying to sneak a mythic kill on reclear
lofty depot
lucid olive
which one
wide idol
We dont talk abt that double incarn at start
wide idol
🤣
lofty depot
why are we trees ing after all our damage
lucid olive
treants -> ca -> convoke
wide idol
I read we send on cd
lofty depot
ur late
wide idol
Or can hold before ca -> convoke
lofty depot
also on mugz we hold 3rd trees for the line up
wide idol
Oh ok
lucid olive
on heroic that dont matter i think
lofty depot
but u also shouldve read the "we dont ca without trees"
lucid olive
the bots are perma damageable on heroic anyway
lofty depot
need to learn where ur damage comes from
u should be stacking ur buffs with eachother
not using them randomly
lucid olive
i went looking to see if you had mythic logs
wide idol
I dont raid on this yet so brushing up. Gonna use this instead for reclears
wide idol
Will fix it.
So to summarize
In raid
- Stack treants, ca, convoke (in that order)
- Use treant on cd, but save/delay for convoke
- Dont butt press 2 ca
- Get 3 starlord before convoke/tree
lofty depot
#2 depends on timings
lucid olive
Not 4
lofty depot
starlord is not before tree
lucid olive
you don't need starlord for convoke or treants it doesn't matter
the reason you see opener graphics spend 3 Starsurge before Convoke is just to empty the AP bar and not for Starlord
you want to Convoke at less than 40 AP ideally
or with more than 4 seconds left of the Force of Nature buff
gloomy stream
Butting in because I had similar questions - is it also right that CA should only go with either trees, convoke, or both? Never CA by itself?
lucid olive
Yes
In a standard raid encounter it just ends up being
0:00 treants - ca - convoke - trinket
0:30 treants - ca - best in slots
1:15 - treants
2:00 treants - ca - convoke - trinket
2:45 treants
3: 30 treants - best in slots
4:15 treants -ca - convoke - trinket
etc
lofty depot
trees on cd
CA always with trees
Convoke always with CA
This
lofty depot
In a standard raid encounter it just ends up being
0:00 treants - ca - convoke -...
Forgot bis smh
gloomy stream
Thank you both, phrasing it those ways definitely helps me grok it better
lofty depot
245
lucid olive
sure
lucid olive
2:45 lines up better anyway
they announced patch release date
and moonkin still turbo bugged
lofty depot
Get mad about that
winter spear
and moonkin still turbo bugged
just play EC and ur good KEKW
dense steeple
Raid aug 12 can we survive the month of July
pseudo merlin
Raid aug 12 can we survive the month of July
official?
cloud citrus
yea its on wowhead
pseudo merlin
poggies
pallid bay
Its on Facebook too
signal temple
so august 5 we're farming champion gear
digital berry
anybody got the upgrade track for s3?
pseudo merlin
yo but give daily reset mythic 0s
round field
we already have daily reset mythic 0s?
round field
yes?
lofty depot
anybody got the upgrade track for s3?
I do, but can't share
digital berry
I do, but can't share
why are you gatekeeping
meager storm
messaging him right now
How much are they paying u
And still can’t win against na holy
🇺🇸
glacial spindle
Anybody that can help me find a plater profile that is good for tracking my dots on the enemy? tried a few from wago but can't find a good one
sullen perch
Jundies + the extra one listed on dream grove @glacial spindle
pseudo merlin
we already have daily reset mythic 0s?
its weekly dingus
pallid bay
And still can’t win against na holy
trump tariffs on all star points, not fair
lofty depot
why are you gatekeeping
I don't have sheets on my new phone
meager storm
Make him play without pi for true tariffs
glacial spindle
Jundies + the extra one listed on dream grove <@675074456959582228>
Missed that thank you
main surge
Gotta love AI
mighty mica
ew
lofty depot
Gotta love AI
Specifically don't have to love it actually
mighty mica
self reporting so quick is crazy
loud kettle
?
worn forge
CMon guys, its just for laughs.. why so serious
lofty depot
Were laughing at them, what's the problem?
lucid olive
yeah fuckin hilarious
pseudo merlin
rain hinge
A couple dumb questions as I level the boomie. On big groups like first pull in cinder are we trying to moonfire everything ? or is there a limit. Also with starfall can you have two up at once or is it bad to overlap
lean sun
overlap as much as possible
oblique aspen
Evening tree huggers! I’m looking to refill to boom for our raid team next expansion and wanted to start getting used to the rotation now - is it changing much in 11.2?
rain hinge
Dot everything
Thanks.
rain hinge
overlap as much as possible
thanks
glacial spindle
Can you just macro in the best in slots use with CA/trinket?
lofty depot
Evening tree huggers! I’m looking to refill to boom for our raid team next expan...
Were birds not trees. Cd usage and the rotation inside CDs could change
lofty depot
Can you just macro in the best in slots use with CA/trinket?
Can macro trinket prefer to to tell people to not macro bis
lucid olive
Can you just macro in the best in slots use with CA/trinket?
Best in Slots shares cooldown with trinkets
So when you use one the other goes on a 20 second cooldown
And since trinkets are generally more powerful it's better to just have a separate keybind for Best in Slots
dense steeple
Lmao the ai guy got lobbed quick huh
lofty depot
Lmao the ai guy got lobbed quick huh
Thyme doesn't lob for that
lofty depot
Maybe he left bud
dense steeple
Ratiod himself and left without announcing his departure? Doubt
digital berry
Gotta love ai and its a nonsensical picture with a bunch of random effects that don’t belong anywhere
signal temple
Bit slow but I got there
pseudo merlin
gz
steel light
do you use best in slot always on cd in m+?
pseudo merlin
you use it with CA
steel light
i am playing with hoc+best in slot
pseudo merlin
yeah so hoc comes first
steel light
yes after the 2nd CA , do you sit on best in slot charges when everything else is on cd?
pseudo merlin
You don't use bis 20 seconds after hoc if that's what you're asking, tie both to individual CA casts
steel light
just checked rank1 boomie rookery20 run
he used best in slot not with his CA after the inital pull
bronze tartan
@gallywix should I keep my 2nd pot and convoke combo for the 2nd big add phase?
or is that just padding and should I send them when they get up
hazy yoke
if I play elune in m+ do I just spam starfire all the time?
pseudo merlin
I think I'd just send it on cd with possibly holding it for a few seconds, maybe max 10, for FOE
meager storm
if I play elune in m+ do I just spam starfire all the time?
Yes read what lunar calling does
plucky valley
if I play elune in m+ do I just spam starfire all the time?
Yaaaaas queen you slam that shit always and forever periodt !
Long cast time but no travel time so
Just something to think about
pallid bay
or is that just padding and should I send them when they get up
padding
also convoking with all those adds up is trolling
lofty depot
do you use best in slot always on cd in m+?
U should try to use it as much as possible yes
lofty depot
Lwist
delicate perch
Just something to think about
I do not play balance Druid to think ❌
plucky valley
Balance ✨to ✨ Druid ✨ to ✨ think
delicate perch
It’s too early for thinking
signal temple
I got that week 2 into the tier...
This is an alt
verbal lintel
will balance be better in next raid than it is currently? cuz we are STRUGGLING
lofty depot
Don't know. u struggling, I'm not
scarlet tapir
This is an alt
<:cat_cry:1364564292837441627>
i had 3 alts on that ilvl at week 4....
loud kettle
nostradamus is not in this channel i fear
verbal lintel
Don't know. u struggling, I'm not
idk....
spice roost
parse 100 to be lower mid
verbal lintel
parse 100 to be lower mid
Pog
lofty depot
Better than parsing 95 to be bottom
signal temple
i had 3 alts on that ilvl at week 4....
I have a busy job
spice roost
Better than parsing 95 to be bottom
show your 100s
verbal lintel
think imma reroll hunter lmao
lofty depot
I didn't say I had any
verbal lintel
what is that dmg
lofty depot
Maybe I could show your parses and come to the same conclusion
spice roost
i main lock
verbal lintel
Why bro so mad damn
spice roost
its just how he is
proper sinew
Apart from top 3 it’s super close anyway
We surely aren’t complaining about being 3% worse in 2025
lofty depot
Apart from top 3 it’s super close anyway
proper sinew
True true
lucid olive
good song
lofty depot
Type shit
snow elm
Where are the boomie patch notes
round field
Boss dmg
lofty depot
Boss dmg <:garf:1182703292313255946>
Gotta find the niche ranking where we're not at the bottom to prove a useless point 🙂
pseudo merlin
Sort for 30th percentile normal non boost logs
Specs like BM and boomie and ret blast hard in N/HC prog guilds
olive gull
When i Sim Balance with onebutton rotation it doenst use Incarn. Someone knows how to fix this?
lucid olive
Yes, adding it into the APL
vital hound
why are you simming obr
olive gull
Yes, adding it into the APL
i tried using "use_cds_with_blizzard_action_list=1" but it seemingly doesn work
lucid olive
i tried using "use_cds_with_blizzard_action_list=1" but it seemingly doesn work
the APL is here
you'd have to add it manually
unless SimC added specific syntax for the assisted combat APL which you'd be better off asking their discord about
if you have any questions about how those lines are written you can read up on it here https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/wiki/Action-List-Conditional-Expressions
olive gull
https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/ActionPriorityLists/as...
i got it working with that info, thanks
bronze tartan
also convoking with all those adds up is trolling
Why is that?
vital hound
convokes pretty average in aoe
bronze tartan
Ah right. Raid leader also says hold CDs for adds though. Or should I send everything for single target, then maaaaaaybe CA is back up when the adds come?
I was also holding convoke for the third platform adds in P1. I guess that's also bad then?
lofty depot
Ah right. Raid leader also says hold CDs for adds though. Or should I send every...
ur raid leader can be wrong
drifting nova
most of the time they are
bronze tartan
I better not tell them. The running joke in the guild is already "let's ask the druid discord" after I let slip once that I asked ya guys
bronze tartan
lmao
lofty depot
wwhats ur rl name for no particular reason
bronze tartan
what, mine?
oh
raid leader
Asolomon
I thought you asked for my real life name
bronze tartan
https://raider.io/guilds/eu/silvermoon/SaveCowEatPanda we're very close
lofty depot
opinion in valid
lofty depot
https://raider.io/guilds/eu/silvermoon/SaveCowEatPanda we're very close
i was already looking
bronze tartan
I'm Rivelda there
lofty depot
I'm Rivelda there
i know
lofty depot
or is it just me
just u
bronze tartan
we'll hopefully get him on Thursday (next raid day)
lofty depot
we'll hopefully get him on Thursday (next raid day)
bronze tartan
stalker!
lofty depot
get mad about that
bronze tartan
nah
shrewd pivot
Diamantine Void Core
voidcore uptime is garbage
lofty depot
ur high
shrewd pivot
its like 40% uptime
lofty depot
u realize that increase the damage of the weapon no?
shrewd pivot
and is lily better than araz, its a worse hoc, the damage from the weapon is like nothing
lofty depot
so 50% of the fight ur weapon is doing 200% more damage or some shit
weapon damage is like 3.5% (like 30-35mil) over like 4 minutes iirc from my dummy hits
lofty depot
and is lily better than araz, its a worse hoc, the damage from the weapon is lik...
it betting better or worse than the type of trinket hoc is doesnt really matter
shrewd pivot
is it better than araz though or is it a double on use angle without bis
pallid bay
I thought you asked for my real life name
whats your mothers maiden name
lofty depot
Diane Sune
bronze tartan
whats your mothers maiden name
Oi
pallid bay
convoke will replace other spells with moonfire
thats why u dont convoke with that many targets
it also just dosnt do any aoe
iron raft
it also just dosnt do any aoe
tell the devs to make it 16 full moons only 🙂
pallid bay
ill tell them this instead
iron raft
hahahaha
yes please and thank you brother
there was a time where we could RF, Convoke and have double pulsar. Good times
DF prepatch was best
shrewd pivot
thats just a 5ish minute dummy hit with an m+ build
but shards does nothing
then voidcore uptime on top of that, 45% uptime on 11k int
vital hound
I better not tell them. The running joke in the guild is already "let's ask the ...
LOL
shrewd pivot
it just doesn't seem good and no one i hope is going to play around the mana condtion
condition
grnted thats not a huge sampe size, but its consistent with what i've seen at least
loud kettle
unless SimC added specific syntax for the assisted combat APL which you'd be bet...
use_blizzard_action_list=1 for blizzard apl
which also uses cds
oh it doesnt use cds, weirdge
lucid olive
use_blizzard_action_list=1 for blizzard apl
couldnt even find an option to use blizzard apl
but i didnt look too hard
exotic finch
Does anyone know if the mount drop buff also applies to druid forms?
delicate perch
is it not SL and earlier only
obsidian jetty
then voidcore uptime on top of that, 45% uptime on 11k int
voidcore can stack. It's possible to get overlaps in CDs which is pretty good. But no one knows what's best since sims arn't available yet. Just test some shit
obsidian jetty
the org ones are 4 near eachother, but they are spreadout abit
pallid bay
Wherever you place your turnips
loud kettle
turnips do not last 12 hours unfortunately
delicate perch
simply get enough characters to join you
loud kettle
im alliance btw
pallid bay
Hear me out
loud kettle
but ig that doesnt really matter
pallid bay
Council
delicate perch
but ig that doesnt really matter
according to google ring of trials in draenor nagrand have 4 dummies there
delicate perch
didn't they nerf res sickness
vital hound
according to google ring of trials in draenor nagrand have 4 dummies there
how many is the revendreth spot
high zodiac
is 3 the max starfalls you can have overlapping?
vital hound
is that 4 or 5
lucid olive
is 3 the max starfalls you can have overlapping?
no
delicate perch
79, 50 for cords
lucid olive
is 3 the max starfalls you can have overlapping?
the cap is like 20 but you will never reach that
high zodiac
ok great - i must have misread the tooltip, i thought it was 3 but then was doing 4 or so in my last key
lucid olive
you never worry about a cap of starfall
high zodiac
great
lucid olive
you just press it as long as the conditions for spending AP apply
delicate perch
I often worry about it 😟
high zodiac
what do you do on the first boss of priory?
lucid olive
Starfall
high zodiac
awesome thanks
exotic finch
everything before dragonflight
Ohh ok so the Legion ones will be available then
grizzled shoal
Ohh ok so the Legion ones will be available then
except the og mage towers ones yeah you can get all the legion forms
exotic finch
Oooh so the white bear mage tower is gone for ever ;_;. Thanks.
grizzled shoal
yeah
grizzled shoal
true
exotic finch
Sorry I realize thats off top for Balance spec.
But thanks y'all!
delicate perch
meager storm
For a second I thought that was a pirate software pfp
lofty depot
the cap is like 20 but you will never reach that
maybe you wont, but i will
vital adder
is it just me or does force of nature feel great in keys
delicate perch
just you I fear
loud kettle
according to google ring of trials in draenor nagrand have 4 dummies there
didnt see these dummies, but there is a group of 4 in boralus
lofty depot
i wasnt elunes chosen
he assumed that dont worry
lucid olive
i shouldve prefaced i tried kotg in the key
yeah that was implied
delicate perch
didnt see these dummies, but there is a group of 4 in boralus
bfa wins again
vital adder
💀 😂
delicate perch
bring back azerite power
elder remnant
yeha last thing we want is off topic chatter in the balance channel
👀
That’s it I’m playing kotg with woe
shrewd pivot
are dryads still bugged in ptr
pseudo merlin
That’s it I’m playing kotg with woe
yas queen
lucid olive
are dryads still bugged in ptr
yes
drifting nova
bring back azerite power
true and true
lucid olive
I see them on details in aoe
thats not the dryads damage
thats the 4pc splash damage
pseudo merlin
It’s cooking time
lucid olive
the dryad casts 1 starfall on spawn and then goes afk
high zodiac
Is it too early in the process to have any sense of how boomy will feel S3?
drifting nova
not good
high zodiac
How would you rank it currently?
lucid olive
Is it too early in the process to have any sense of how boomy will feel S3?
Yes too early
Ask again in 2 months
lucid olive
damn Gamz not even committing to a first impression until rwf is over
Yeah and if you ask me then I will say ask again in 2 months
dry compass
That's okay tettles will have 6 videos out by then
high zodiac
lol
just trying to think through if i want to switch from my mage to mix it up, haven't really boomied seriously since SL
appreciate the very thought provoking feeedback!
delicate perch
Yeah and if you ask me then I will say ask again in 2 months
lofty depot
Ask again in 2 months
but 2 months the patch will be out
lofty depot
just trying to think through if i want to switch from my mage to mix it up, have...
idk a world u swap off mage if u dont already enjoy boomkin
dense steeple
ive killed like 200 goblins still no mount
vital hound
Ask again in 2 months
Is it too early in the process to have any sense of how boomy will feel S3?
delicate perch
ive killed like 200 goblins still no mount
is it a new mount or are they just giving away the old one
vital hound
<:well:1112589536246104136>
dense steeple
is it a new mount or are they just giving away the old one
Both
teal sphinx
nova ocean
crisp scaffold
Is there an tutorial on how to play with new tierset on keeper ?
pallid bay
Not really, we're kinda waiting on it working properly
crisp scaffold
Ok 😄
hazy yoke
is there any passive spread for EC moonfire?
pallid bay
Only twin moons but that's not EC specific
vital hound
Not really, we're kinda waiting on it working properly
cya in 12.0 ig
spice roost
Not really, we're kinda waiting on it working properly
when they make it work properly will that just mean that you wouldnt play around tier set
you would just play boomie normal
loud kettle
let me ask my crystal ball
fossil hemlock
Well we're waiting, what did it say?
spice roost
im saying if they make it work normal
loud kettle
Well we're waiting, what did it say?
im waiting for it to tell me
fossil hemlock
im saying if they make it work normal
We don't know what's normal
spice roost
oh
pallid bay
We would definitely play around it
loud kettle
My crystal ball says we would play around it
pallid bay
Idk if there's any way of not playing around it tbh, if you can carry over the buff you would double CA, if not it's just your CDs
Maybe double on-use
loud kettle
Are u allowed to ping lurkingdev in boomy
spice roost
Idk if there's any way of not playing around it tbh, if you can carry over the b...
i meant if they adjust it soyou dont have to adjust your rotation differently then u play on live atm
fossil hemlock
At a bare minimum we'll probably delay treants so we get the big dryad surges in both CA and treant buff
If carrying over doesn't work
Which is still different from current
royal zenith
Holy moly almost new tier??
pallid bay
i meant if they adjust it soyou dont have to adjust your rotation differently th...
idk what you're saying tbh
when they make it work properly will that just mean that you wouldnt play around tier set
this is what you said
if they adjust the set so you dont have to adjust your rotation compared to live
then you wont adjust your rotation compared to live
spice roost
Not really, we're kinda waiting on it working properly
i was just not sure what you meant by properly is all
sudden flame
Are u allowed to ping lurkingdev in boomy
Its not recommended but if you have a strong enough will you can
vital hound
i was just not sure what you meant by properly is all
the dryad spawns
and does nothing
spice roost
so he just means working set ok
spice roost
properly ya
hazy yoke
is there any good yelling WA for whenever I cancel my cast? I struggle with that a lot as a melee main 🥲
pallid bay
i was just not sure what you meant by properly is all
i think what i meant by that is that we're doubtful blizzard would want current version of double CA compounding buff is how we play
maiden pasture
They should change it so there's no dryads favor buff, the dryad just casts 2 giga surges at the end
obsidian jetty
the set is doing like 30-50% of our dmg. So it's going to get changed and who knows what the outcome will be
royal zenith
what's the % of damage other tiersets do?
obsidian jetty
if they change nothing, you will be starfalling in ST to stall out the buff into the next treant/CA windows
royal zenith
a lot of them seemed very strong
obsidian jetty
what's the % of damage other tiersets do?
in general they aim for around 10-15% from what I can tell
psure spriest is like 40% increase rn as well
royal zenith
in general they aim for around 10-15% from what I can tell
you mean historically?
obsidian jetty
yea, more recently. Idr shit from like BFA
royal zenith
they still need to deep-dive actual number tuning but yeah, wonder if they want to keep it higher
obsidian jetty
well BFA didn't have tier iirc
pallid bay
the set is doing like 30-50% of our dmg. So it's going to get changed and who kn...
is that enough
obsidian jetty
"working"
pallid bay
but the expectation has to be that the dryad works in some capacity
obsidian jetty
as in getting buffed by 4p for entire duration