balance

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-what-confused-gif-24490283

[royal zenith]

not asking specific questions...

that's on you...

[fossil hemlock]

It'll probably be the 6th of august with season starting 13th

[drifting nova]

can I make pancakes with self raising flour?

[fossil hemlock]

And Midnight reveal at Gamescom the 20th

[royal zenith]

yes

[drifting nova]

flour might be out of date whats the worst that could happen

it's wheat

[fossil hemlock]

You know what, give it a shot and report back here with the results

[drifting nova]

july 2022

here goes

[livid jay]

just make sure its not moldy 😄

might not even be self raising anymore after 3 years xD

baking poweder might have just gone reacted away

[royal zenith]

no idea why you would ask in a balance druid discord

if you have google available

but typical kekkers!!

[round field]

Yes but you never will

[livid jay]

mean

[crisp scaffold]

LUL

[drifting nova]

..technically true, the best kind

[vital hound]

should my belt

be 97 or 94

[drifting nova]

99

[crisp scaffold]

97

[vital hound]

[royal zenith]

get inside that delve sheepo

[crisp scaffold]

I just did a delve 11 on my 650 shadow priest ,took 30 minutes ,bran is useless cuz mine its only level 50 :))

[pseudo merlin]

Yes if you want to delve you first have to delve for 200 hours so your bran isnt useless 🙂

[crisp scaffold]

😦

[pseudo merlin]

meaningful gameplay

[jade flume]

Delve 1 takes me like 30mins on 684 shadow ngl

Garbonzo spec

[round field]

Just need to use healer brann

The goat

[vital hound]

had the thing in my bag

[leaden raft]

Hey Guys, for some reason I can't manage to parse properly as Boomie in Mythic. Do you see any reasons for this that I don't see? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pzWvrFTabVAtYj4g?boss=3015&difficulty=5&wipes=1&type=damage-done&source=46

[crisp scaffold]

You have the same issue as me ,not casting enough

atm Im at 13 cast per minute on wrath and only 11 starsurges per minute overall in 40 pulls

People who do like at least 3mil on mugzee are at 18 19 cpm on wrath and 15-16 on starsurge

Aa also u use starfire

for some reason

[pseudo merlin]

ABC

youre not casting and or cancelling casts a lot

youre surging outside of eclipses

yes

[scarlet tapir]

i saw what u deleted

[crisp scaffold]

haah

[pseudo merlin]

its astral

astral is both

[crisp scaffold]

yeye ,google fast

[hollow mist]

[pseudo merlin]

sure thing bro just take everything 🙂

[pseudo merlin]

the fuck is happening here

he's definitely wandering

[round field]

Bro is lost

Help him

[calm ibex]

He likes to swim

[pseudo merlin]

they stealth buffed portals

killed OAB and the portal opened within 30 sec

[obsidian jetty]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/pzWvrFTabVAtYj4g/38-Mythic+Mug'Zee,+Heads+of+Security+-+Wipe+18+(4:52)/Ùlkas/standard/timeline

this site does a good job at helping visualize the gaps in your rotation

you should probably make a macro for potion, that does CA+trinket+pot+nature's vigil+racial

and a 2nd macro for just CA+trinket+nature's vigil+racial

that way you aren't pianoing in your opener and leaving a big gap trying to hit 4 buttons in .5seconds

also, this bad. Use trees in ecl

[calm ibex]

Hell yeah

[maiden sparrow]

Kind of a longshot but does anyone else experience this weird latency/lag when spell batching wraths (and sometimes other abilities) back to back? Trying to see if this is an addons issues or maybe it’s the game client. I notice it particularly when trying to get back into lunar eclipse: my first wrath will cast normally, but then ill have like a 2-3 second delay before my second wrath starts casting despite me mashing the keybind..

[obsidian jetty]

I'd start by seeing it if the problem persists on a different keybind hitting the dummies, and/or without a macro on wrath if you have one. Sounds like a weird issue

[maiden pasture]

Something must be weird with your setup either hardware wise or macro. Spell queuing alone should remove any delay, 2-3s is absurd

[pseudo merlin]

🤓 ☝️

spell batching doesn't exist

(on live)

[severe hollow]

also id double check in logs

[pseudo merlin]

that just sounds to me like your connection is shit

are you on wifi?

[severe hollow]

think not unlikely to be a weakaura

[pseudo merlin]

I wonder why discord canary took over my wow client

[jaunty fjord]

curious question, for balance do we have to be in boomy form? or can we just do normal. asking as normal i have 27 haste and 21 mastery but when i go into boomy it goes to 18 haste 25 mastery

[eager raft]

yes you play in moonkin form

[jaunty fjord]

dang lol, i wanted the more haste

[eager raft]

The stat differences are due to lycaras teaching

[jaunty fjord]

ahh i see

[pseudo merlin]

just play in human form if you want more haste

nobody stopping you

we dont have any spells that require moonkin form

I think

[lofty depot]

3% haste doesn't equal 10% damage

[pseudo merlin]

6% haste vs 10% dmg and owlkin frenzy ye

im not saying its smart

[lofty depot]

W.e.

[pseudo merlin]

but like if you are asking the question if you need to be in moonkin form i think you can get away with it

[lofty depot]

U want more haste, enchant and gem it.

[pseudo merlin]

nothing is going to change

[lofty depot]

I mean yea, sit at like 15-20k haste and it doesn't really matter

[livid jay]

ty for your account

[pseudo merlin]

You take over my account you take over my debtors

🤝

[livid jay]

how can u have debt in wow

[pseudo merlin]

gambling addiction

[lofty depot]

Do u know what gambling is

[livid jay]

im the guy with the gambling addon in my guild

but i know to stop when needed 😄

[pseudo merlin]

I don't understand that sentence

?stop?

[lofty depot]

Well if u don't pay u usually get shunned

[pseudo merlin]

anyone else like the fae dragon

faerie dragon rather

[lofty depot]

No

[royal zenith]

dont care about it

is that also an answer

[lofty depot]

I don't particularly dislike it for normal reasons.... I dislike it cuz it's a passive talent that is rng as fuck and adds no gameplay

[lucid olive]

Denizens are cool

Denizens as a bottom talent of the tree that you have to take cause it's tuned high and you don't interact with it is not cool

[fossil hemlock]

Just make denizens the keystone talent

[lofty depot]

It is

And that's cringe

[fossil hemlock]

It's a capstone

Eclipse is our keystone

[lucid olive]

I don't do keystones they are for minigamers

[lofty depot]

U know what, these words stupid and mean nothing

Also eclipse is shit so I cba

[eager raft]

aw he’s frustrated because he doesn’t understand

[livid jay]

how much damage do we loose right now if all we do is press wrath ignoring all eclipses?

[royal zenith]

only thing frustrating about pets

is that they can pull

[eager raft]

they aren’t pets

Nice try though

🫵 😂

[royal zenith]

they're practically similar to you

just a lowbie pet

[lucid olive]

Between 10 and 20% in the raid build if I remember correctly

[livid jay]

hmmm

[lofty depot]

Ur a pet

[lucid olive]

I remember checking after the Wrath buff the difference if you play it like season 1 of DF

Where you perma lunar and press Starfire on UE procs

[livid jay]

yea thats what i was thinking of when i typed that sentence

[meager storm]

I love denizens

Revert it to the 10% buff thing holy

[lucid olive]

I also love denizens cause every time we get an aura buff they buff denizens twice

Fae Missiles is a whitelisted spell for the spec aura but also affected by the pet dmg aura and whenever we get a spec aura buff they apply it to both

[cloud plover]

denizens of deez

[calm ibex]

I miss wod denizens

Where it could proc so much that you’d have like 20-30 of them

And it’d top your damage

Had it happen once on the second boss of hfc lmao

[pseudo merlin]

anyway got a 1 hour timeout

[pseudo merlin]

this is my thoughts basically ye

[dense steeple]

New mounts ravec?

I didnt get gally head last night

Cant believe my team didnt get me a birthday present

[pseudo merlin]

none

[dense steeple]

Unbelievable

[pseudo merlin]

been trying to figure out how to get from zandalar to boralus

and the other way around

aswell as how to unlock nyalotha on alts

but im giving up

[severe hollow]

ship

[pseudo merlin]

there isnt any

[severe hollow]

[pseudo merlin]

i mean so far ive figured out you can get to troll land through the echo isles

But no idea how to get to boralus land

[severe hollow]

in that case I doubt you can really get over without starting some of the bfa questlines

or you arent getting ported

[pseudo merlin]

but im not flying through half of kalimdor

yeah exactly

some stupid quests idk

ive done all this stuff, im not doing it again

[round field]

The boat

Noob

[loud kettle]

Use freehold portal

[pseudo merlin]

what boat

what portal

This is some check your privilege shit

You're so used to there being a boat that you think the boat is there for everyone

The boat isn't there for everyone buddy!

[round field]

u stand on boat

talk to npc

[pseudo merlin]

balance of all things?

[round field]

boat goes vroom vroom

and u get to continent

ta daaaaa

[pseudo merlin]

Ok first of all, no, that's factually wrong

Boats do not go vroom vroom

Second

[round field]

i will log in

[pseudo merlin]

What boat

[round field]

random alt

that never did

bfa

just to show u

[loud kettle]

ye

you talk to person and select zone

you sail

[pseudo merlin]

if youre so smart, how do I get to nyalotha then!

[loud kettle]

fly to the entrance ?

[pseudo merlin]

there isnt one

[loud kettle]

there are 2 and they alternate

[pseudo merlin]

nope

[loud kettle]

yes 💀

[pseudo merlin]

I mean yes

But they're not visible to me

[loud kettle]

might need to do intro questline maybe? do u have cloak

[eager raft]

There’s a guy to talk to in the hub area in uldum

[loud kettle]

also play the game noob

[eager raft]

The change timeline

[pseudo merlin]

nah

i did this stuff on one char

that char can see the entrance

no other char can

nozdormi doesnt do anything

[eager raft]

ok switch timeline then

[pseudo merlin]

nop

that aint it

[eager raft]

Not her

[pseudo merlin]

😮

[eager raft]

It’s a npc in that zone

[round field]

I LIED

[pseudo merlin]

see

[round field]

the boat does not sail

[pseudo merlin]

told you

this game is fucked mate

[eager raft]

where are you trying to go

Let daddy help

[pseudo merlin]

if you didnt actively play every xpac you get hard fucked in this game

im trying to figure out how to travel between troll and fat human land

and also how to get to nyalotha

[eager raft]

bro just use dungeon tp

[pseudo merlin]

that doesnt work does it

[eager raft]

To get to the zone

[pseudo merlin]

that only gets you to one area

i need to get to both

[eager raft]

You surely have freehold then u can just fly wherever u want

[pseudo merlin]

no

what

you cant fly from freehold to troll land

[eager raft]

Are u Alli or horde

[pseudo merlin]

both

[eager raft]

you probably need to start the war campaign

To get access to the ship

[pseudo merlin]

yeah probably

[severe hollow]

he did not like my answer of ship before

[pseudo merlin]

ye you said the same ship as igni

[loud kettle]

dont remember needing to do any quests for ship

[eager raft]

But you can use freehold tp to get to the one island and use the motherlode portal in dornogal for the other one

[pseudo merlin]

its not there

[eager raft]

And for Ny’Alotha you just talk to the npc and change timeline

[pseudo merlin]

yeah you mean m+ portal

[loud kettle]

you just walk up to ship and it has quest to choose, level up and you unlocked more of them

[pseudo merlin]

sure

[severe hollow]

tbh havent tried after bfa release

[pseudo merlin]

whats the location of this ship

isnt it north

all the way north on the dock

on boralus

[eager raft]

Idk where in boralus I never did bfa as alliance

[pseudo merlin]

same

[loud kettle]

iirc its the first ship if you fly from the main part of the city towards the harbor

[severe hollow]

should be somewhere there

[pseudo merlin]

ye i checked there

[eager raft]

have u done the bfa intro with nathanos

[pseudo merlin]

idk?

Once yes

[loud kettle]

you just skip that

[eager raft]

wait that’s probably only for horde

just use portals man

[loud kettle]

that was prepatch content anyway

[pseudo merlin]

like ive played every xpac in this game

so the answre is always yes (on one char)

[eager raft]

But you have to accept it and skip it in order to access war campaign

[pseudo merlin]

TLDR all I want to know is if im missing something or I need to do a bunch of quests on every single char individually

if it's really the latter then I'm good

Not going to spend 2 hours trying to puzzle together where to even begin

[eager raft]

you unironically might have to do nazjatar starting

To unlock Ny’Alotha

[pseudo merlin]

I think I saw nazjtar mentioned in a wowhead comment or something yeahy

[civic junco]

you might be able to go do the story mode version of nyalotha

[pseudo merlin]

you think they retroactively made story mode raids?

I highly doubt that

[civic junco]

i honestly havent checked and I do not know

just tossing it out as a possibility

[pseudo merlin]

NAh I don't think so

Cheers

first story mode was in DF no

[eager raft]

btw zidormi is the name of the dude that u can talk to for Changing timeline in uldum

[pseudo merlin]

that's literally what I said

[eager raft]

wowhead will tell u their exact location

[pseudo merlin]

that doesn't do anything

[eager raft]

yeah then you haven’t unlocked it

[pseudo merlin]

both timelines give nothing

[eager raft]

Do war campaign til you get nazjatar quest

Then you’ll get nya intro

[civic junco]

Apparently storymode is out for Liberation of Undermine https://www.wowhead.com/news/story-mode-now-available-for-liberation-of-undermine-raid-may-drop-loot-375492

So, it's not impossible

[eager raft]

That is the new raid!!!!!!

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah

Story mode isn't a raid difficulty

It's like a specifically made thing

That's not implemented retroactively

Would be a huge waste of resources

But also it would require a bunch of quests to access right

[eager raft]

If u just started the quest line you’d be done by now

[pseudo merlin]

works on this char

forgot I played BFA on this one too

[pseudo merlin]

Then Blizzard would win

I'm not giving them my engagement metric minutes

[dry compass]

Fuck

I hit the bfa portion of the mount farm today

[eager raft]

log out

[dry compass]

I don't think I ever did the nyalotha intro

I did nazjatar though

[stiff spear]

Do you guys think the season 3 tier set for Druid is looking good?

[eager raft]

It is looking broken

[dry compass]

Kotg set has some interesting looking gameplay that's v strong but a little degenerate

Elunes set is pretty bland by comparison but still quite strong

[pseudo merlin]

ya get fucked

doing it on 1 char aint enough

fk this shit

forum posters are all like "I HAD TO DO IT 10 YEARS AGO SO YOU NEED TO DO IT TOO!"!!111!1!!1!"

🙂

[stiff spear]

I see. I’m trying to decide between ele and boomy next season. Dont really know which tier set is more fun to press

[pseudo merlin]

go ptr

[lofty depot]

Wait a few more weeks and see how the tier sets actually are

[meager storm]

Kotg getting a rework

I just know it

They will save time cooking a new set than trying to fix all the bugs and degen interactions

[pseudo merlin]

[civic junco]

https://www.wowhead.com/npc=177193/kiku

@pseudo merlin

[pseudo merlin]

What's that then

[civic junco]

You are welcome

[pseudo merlin]

Is that the LFR guy?

[civic junco]

yes

[pseudo merlin]

hmm

its worth a shot

but i dont think itl work

[civic junco]

im killing High Tinker Mekkatorgue rn

[pseudo merlin]

yes on lfr..

[civic junco]

GMOD is not a CE mount, but no luck on my end

At the very least, i got the appearances

[pseudo merlin]

lets see

fingers crossed

nah didnt work

there's no exit portal

[dreamy cove]

was there a king's rest/sob entrance you can get summoned to on other continent

[pseudo merlin]

i know SOB has a horde and alliance entrance

just like dazaralor

i never played alliance so idk if alliance has a KR entrance

But I would assume not

Just like FH doesnt have a horde entrance

oh and motherlode has horde/alliance too

[nova ocean]

I'm hoping they treat moonkin like they have all expansion and just don't mention us in patch notes all ptr and 11.2

[meager storm]

We will be getting DF beta treatment

Those who know

[dreamy cove]

iirc sob entrances are both in kt right, so kr might both be in zuldazar?

[pseudo merlin]

sob and ML are capital specific dungeons that therefore need an entrance accessible for the opposite faction

KR doesnt need a different entrance just like FH

[dreamy cove]

I don't even know where you are trying to get to actually

[pseudo merlin]

travel between the islands

[dreamy cove]

doens't the quest take like 5-10m?

[pseudo merlin]

ill take your word for it

add in 30 minutes of figuring out what im suppsoed to do, where im supposed to go

and where i even need to begin

finding what youre looking for is super easy when you know what to look for

not when you dont even know where to begin

[lofty depot]

[dreamy cove]

it took me like 30m-1hr I think when I swapped factions and I was trying to unlock naz/mechagon

was really annoying

[lofty depot]

still think its odd the tierset doesnt interact with trees

but with ca

[pseudo merlin]

yup

[lofty depot]

"hero talent tiersets" btw

[pseudo merlin]

it is

[dry compass]

Bold of you to assume the degeneracy is on their radar

How many patches did it take for them to fix Destro casting rof in single target?

And then they did it in the worst way possible

[nova ocean]

I didn't think of that but ya that's actually really fucking weird lol

[pseudo merlin]

too long

[nova ocean]

It would be even better if it worked exactly the same but every tree instead of ca

[lofty depot]

One of our classes does damage

And by a large margin when doing said degeneracy

[meager storm]

It’s not just that

The dmg cap is based on ur hp

[lofty depot]

Dak leaking

[meager storm]

Gamz wrote it on the tier set feedback

[lofty depot]

Is the tier set feedback posted yet

[meager storm]

Yes

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-the-war-within-season-3-class-sets/2119870/139

[lofty depot]

No one reads that smh

Lol, I meant in here :p

[meager storm]

So u know rally, downpour

Are boomy cds

[lofty depot]

Well yea he sent it to me 🙂

Rally, hotw, downpour, bear

[meager storm]

Yup

2s to fit 3gcds

Aug

[lofty depot]

Nah just get the pool for 3rd

Aug true

Surely some dork fucked that up and needed a number to be under like 15m he thought was relatively static

Didn't think we would degen that shit prob

[lucid olive]

smilers

[meager storm]

I mean I think it’s just like an extra 0 misplaced cuz even if the set caps at 11 mil, surges shouldn’t be doing 180 mil

[pseudo merlin]

sac

[dry compass]

Sorry I couldn't read your post it's buried in non-feedback whining

[pseudo merlin]

oh you mean offensive

[dry compass]

Wow forums smh

[pseudo merlin]

thats so degen

[lofty depot]

Why not

[dry compass]

We're going to have to wait for a PvP montage of people getting one shot by starsurges for them to fix it

And a 15% haircut on starsurge damage on top of the fix just because

[pseudo merlin]

restroy mythic raid solo day 1 on boomie

[meager storm]

That’s why I think the cap is just weirdge, just make it infinite and make it 2.5% instead then idk

🤔

[lucid olive]

can't make it infinite

needs to have a cap

considering you can just carry the buff into raid

[meager storm]

[lucid olive]

go to stormwind

[lofty depot]

Would have to be 1%

[lucid olive]

nuke critter for 10 billion

get summoned

[meager storm]

I mean just make it not carry over instances

[lucid olive]

oneshot boss with a surge

[meager storm]

[pseudo merlin]

imagine 10 minutes of charging up between prog pulls

🙂

[lofty depot]

U can get a critter gun don't need to be out of instance

[meager storm]

Make ca 15s and the set 15s

[lofty depot]

Get with the times

[meager storm]

There u go

[lofty depot]

Ew stop

Set 10, CA 15

Could make set 8

Very cringe tho

[meager storm]

Actually ca 15s and set 5s

So u gotta send it on those 5s at the end

[lofty depot]

Ew

[proud jay]

If you’re fighting a 2 target, or say like the first boss of DFC, should you starfall or star surge?

[lucid olive]

DFC you surge

[meager storm]

The holding the buff for next ca is cringe

[lucid olive]

use the adds to get more AP with Starfire and surge boss

[meager storm]

Sending double ca on pull is cringe

[lucid olive]

other instances you starfall

[proud jay]

I starsurge to kill the boss faster since mob damage doesn’t really mean much in fights like those

So like first boss of priory, you’d SF?

[meager storm]

Or make the set like if u procced pulsar and then casted ca, the new ca rewrites the old one so u can’t do extendos

🤔

Ngl just make a new set

Make it happen on treants

[pseudo merlin]

yes that's 2t

[meager storm]

News to me

[lofty depot]

Big news for u

[lucid olive]

actually the 4pc stacking can't be critters

i forgot we checked that and it didn't work

needs to be proper mob

[pseudo merlin]

dummies? duels?

[lofty depot]

Tragic

[pseudo merlin]

did you try duels

[lucid olive]

nah

[proud jay]

@pseudo merlin thank you. I’ve been casting SS on that fight thinking killing the main boss faster is better

[meager storm]

so arctic is spreading misinformation

[lucid olive]

just any mob in old zone thats scaled works innit

[meager storm]

Classic

[pseudo merlin]

They "share" health

[proud jay]

Oh shit. Well I’m a fricken idiot then lol. Thank you

[pseudo merlin]

So you're killing it faster by cleaving

[lofty depot]

Well no, I was just talking about using it for tech

[lucid olive]

me and sune already tested being summoned to aberrus

[meager storm]

[lofty depot]

Kezan stacks

Dumb shit

Open ur mind

[meager storm]

I don’t need cheats

[lofty depot]

Giga gamer

[meager storm]

Dimwit who? na on top

[lofty depot]

Need to catch up on parses on drood

Not even 682 😦

[meager storm]

[pseudo merlin]

ya gear is holding you back buddy

[lofty depot]

Look at the ilvl parse bitch

I'm a gamer

[pseudo merlin]

aint no way my guy is looking at ilv parses

[lofty depot]

💪

[pseudo merlin]

i respect it actually

just pick the number that's highest always

[lofty depot]

See, bug brain

I was blasting gally last night. Bud these padders

[pseudo merlin]

this whole tier is just padding

i hate it

[lofty depot]

At least they live long enough

[lucid olive]

yes boss dmg parse is only real metric

[lofty depot]

Unlike sark or nelth

[meager storm]

Gally is for sure a pad boss but u can get away with boss dmg

[lucid olive]

only damage to bosses counts

[civic junco]

Ethical play detected

[meager storm]

Now check 1.7

[lucid olive]

nah

[leaden birch]

guys how does mythic lockout work

[lucid olive]

i'll check 1.7 on monday after i had raid

[meager storm]

[leaden birch]

can we have 1 guy with 7/8 mythic and just kill gally each week?

[pseudo merlin]

no

[leaden birch]

or is it a reclear kinda thing

k figured

it's an ID i guess

[meager storm]

If u kill a boss u are tied to that id

Ye

[lofty depot]

Kill 4 bosses, leave

[meager storm]

Gally r1 is easy to steal I had a horrible kill and got it

Dwilkz can yoink it back

[lofty depot]

U get the 7m add set tho

Sellers type shit

[leaden birch]

is the mythic mount personal loot?

[meager storm]

I did no dmg to it

[lofty depot]

No

[meager storm]

Those adds I only did like 380k

[leaden birch]

oh so it's group loot

[pseudo merlin]

its personal

[lofty depot]

U can trade it yes

[meager storm]

The giga boomy padders have done 600-700k to them

[proud jay]

I’m just getting back into the game these past two weeks. Is our single target damage as bad as these sites say it is?

[pseudo merlin]

but like

its not pushed

its looted personally

[leaden birch]

okay cool

[proud jay]

When I’m in m+ I feel like my single target on bosses is competitive

[pseudo merlin]

no

[lofty depot]

"these sites" 👀

[leaden birch]

icy veinz says we are trash

[lofty depot]

When they talk about st, they're not talking about m+

Is a whole different thing

[proud jay]

Well like wowhead and shit show our st as low and shit but everything aid that at the beginning of the coaches as well

[pseudo merlin]

any bis geared boomies here?

my ret sims 3199k without meta gem

1t5m

[meager storm]

3.107

[royal zenith]

we sim around 3.1 mil ye

[pseudo merlin]

yeah so that's fine

[scenic mist]

around a 100k less

[pseudo merlin]

100k behind is w/e

[proud jay]

@lofty depot yes, but I’m assuming that if my m+ is where it’s at, the st is only going to be better.

[royal zenith]

wrong assumption

but it's not bad ye

[pseudo merlin]

yo but when did they make T1 bracers and belts BOP

[proud jay]

I just haven’t raided or tested kotg st at all so I wasn’t sure why everyone is talking like it’s so bad lol

[pseudo merlin]

Cuz it was at some point

but like

[royal zenith]

I don't think anyone is?

it's not the best, not the worst

just mid

[pseudo merlin]

People only check in on their spec 1x per season and then just roll with it

and sandbag

[lofty depot]

Well people's perception of us being bad is looking at warcraftlogs

[royal zenith]

but what does it matter

it's end of season

why are you worried about this?

[proud jay]

Just guildies, and some Reddit boys and shit. I take all of that with a grain of salt because I’m season one it was supposed to be the worst in the game and I crushed meters st

[pseudo merlin]

please

never read reddit

like never

[lofty depot]

Yea don't listen to either of those groups of people

[meager storm]

[pseudo merlin]

Reddit is like half decent for tech reviews

[proud jay]

I wouldn’t say I’m worried, I just wanted to know why I was reading that in general and wanted to know yall thoughts

[pseudo merlin]

But outside of tech NEVER EVER go to reddit

[royal zenith]

ah yeah, I mean

[pseudo merlin]

Certainly not for gaming

[lofty depot]

Idk why ur reading it

[royal zenith]

you will always want to be top damage, on AOE, ST

[lofty depot]

Stop reading it

[royal zenith]

so if it's not

you will call it bad

shrimple

[lucid olive]

don't read reddit (unless its a comment i wrote)

[pseudo merlin]

WOW Reddit is the people who joined discord and got told their question is answered by the PINS and then got offended and decided to leave so they can be reddit experts on the game instead

[royal zenith]

you can also just open up warcraftlogs and check for yourself

or watch a streamer

for M+

[proud jay]

I just enjoy reading every bit of information and opinions on the things I’m doing. Long days at work lead to me finding random stuff on it lol

[meager storm]

New ptr build

Holy

[proud jay]

I’ve been watching tettles do some shit here and their

[lofty depot]

Well the problem with taking in new info is sometimes that info is dogshit

[royal zenith]

how fresh

[proud jay]

For sure. That why I know you guys have my back ❤️

[meager storm]

1 min ago it’s just a blue post

[lofty depot]

Yea, so anytime ur guildies says boomkin is shit, go beat his dps

[meager storm]

Not even on wowhead

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

Algalon hasn't posted it

[proud jay]

@lofty depot dude the first three weeks of raiding in season 1 was glorious. Listening to the warrior in our guild make excuses as to why I was crushing them

[lofty depot]

Bluetracker hasn't posted it

[meager storm]

[lofty depot]

Well warriors are damaged so to be expected

[proud jay]

I kept telling those guys when you know your class well enough to where you aren’t staring at your bars 24/7, you’ll hit numbers hahaha

[royal zenith]

yeah good thing boomies aint

you're a prime example

of peak humanity

[lofty depot]

So true bestie

[royal zenith]

right

:)

[nova ocean]

We get changes?

[lucid olive]

can only hope

[lofty depot]

READ WHAT I SAID

[pseudo merlin]

YEah so are there any changes or no ?

[nova ocean]

But did we get changes tho

[meager storm]

Real talk when are they doing the new build next reset cuz of July 4th?

[royal zenith]

possibly?

who knows

[lofty depot]

I figured they would post a new build for extended weekend

But shrug guess not

[lucid olive]

is PTR even up

[lofty depot]

Don't think so

[lucid olive]

didnt they say tuesday that they were pushing the new dungeons yesterday with a build

and they didnt

smh

[lofty depot]

Gastank hasn't talked in a month, think he got hired to create our tier set

Thanks gastank

[meager storm]

Well next week we got 3 days of testing so

They better push it

[lucid olive]

he's on PoE

its all gone downhill

[lofty depot]

🙏 for the boy

[lucid olive]

they were gonna push PTR yesterday but then saw my tier set feedback

so now theyre fixing everything

[lofty depot]

Blud thinks they read that

[meager storm]

They are making a new set

Give them a break

[lofty depot]

I'd be so sad

[meager storm]

Every time u cast treants your first 3 surges are % amped and also proc dreamsurge

They could do some basic sht like this

I can see it

[lofty depot]

While treants are active, 10% of your star surge damage is stored

[meager storm]

And then what

[lofty depot]

1 giga surge at the end

[meager storm]

Nuh uh u want boat

[lofty depot]

For the same damage as the others

Can't be 10% cu we don't get 10 surges in trees 🙂

[lucid olive]

2 set is every 4 free starsurge and starfall cast spawns a treant

[lofty depot]

Unless we include convoke surges in that

[lucid olive]

4set is every 4th treant spawned is a dryad that does shitton of dam

[meager storm]

Dryad

Keep the dryad guy

[lucid olive]

yes the dryad is the 4set

[lofty depot]

Girl*

[meager storm]

So we are a demo lock

[lofty depot]

Dryad not dood

[lucid olive]

and force of nature spawns 3 treants and count towards it

no no

we are grovetender

[lofty depot]

Count towards it

Now I gotta get recruitie to start doing some calculations

[meager storm]

But then the dryad scales with our mastery

And we gotta hold ca for the dryad spawn

“I didn’t proc dryad during the amp”

[fickle grail]

i wouldnt mind having trees on a pulsar type ap spent shit

[lucid olive]

ye

[pseudo merlin]

I like that cook

[fickle grail]

lil guys poppin up here and there

[pseudo merlin]

more trees

[fickle grail]

dottin shit

[pseudo merlin]

or like trees every other eclipse

🙂

[fickle grail]

givin 1 stack of dreamdust

[lucid olive]

honestly treants should be on a charge system

[fickle grail]

i dont want to press it 3 times in a row

[meager storm]

Pulsar would have solved kotg

[lucid olive]

and spending AP or something gives more treant charges

[fickle grail]

thats what kinda killed press shrooms for me

[lucid olive]

and every X treant spawned procs Gnarlroot and Gnarlroot gives you 24% damage amp or something

so just bake the bottom KOTG talent into the Gnarlroot spawn

[fickle grail]

oke

oke

let him cook

get a juiced tree

[meager storm]

That’s an old cook

[lucid olive]

ye

[meager storm]

We keep repeating it every tier

[fickle grail]

is it?

[lucid olive]

we been saying that for a year

[fickle grail]

im out of the cycle

[lucid olive]

my other cook

is utilize wild mushroom and entangling roots

[pallid bay]

entangling roots

[meager storm]

[lucid olive]

let me spawn these mfers

[meager storm]

No

There are mushroom boys

From shadowlands

[lucid olive]

theres no reason why my guy shouldn't feel like Zyra from League

[meager storm]

imagine playing Zyra

[calm ibex]

Let me spawn the mushroom guys from the delves

[fickle grail]

sporeggar people are alive since bc

would be coolio

[lucid olive]

poison ivy aeshetic cool as hell

[lucid olive]

surely they make a poison ivy hero tree in Midnight

they just make 2 new hero trees per spec or something surely

[lofty depot]

Think they just add a section under it

[calm ibex]

Make em itch to death?

[calm ibex]

YES THOSE GUYS

[meager storm]

They have them on plaguefall

[lucid olive]

yeah those are sick

[meager storm]

Just reuse them

[lucid olive]

Echo would find a way to abuse them

[calm ibex]

The ones they have in delves are cuter though

[eager raft]

nooo I want Druid of the flame balance/feral tree

[lofty depot]

Spawn fire treants

[meager storm]

Rework both hero trees

Stop reworking hunters

And spriest

[lucid olive]

make a vine whip ability

[lofty depot]

It's not a new patch without spr rework

2 shadow crashes btw

[lucid olive]

make poison ivy hero tree that gives us mass grip

[civic junco]

We need to nerf/buff psychic link IMMEDIATELY

[lucid olive]

not a raid buff !!

[meager storm]

Pretty sure mm has gotten 4 reworks

Since the expansion started

[eager raft]

needed it no?

[meager storm]

The first one

[eager raft]

dark ranger just straight up didn’t work properly

[lucid olive]

hunter main spotted

[pseudo merlin]

MM is fine now tho

and will be more fine next season

SP will keep needing reworks forever

[lofty depot]

"needing"

[meager storm]

Mm getting nerfed

black arrow doing 75% of my dmg on st

[eager raft]

Everyone with clearly broken or overpowered sets will be nerfed

And they messed something up with inputting new numbers for mm

[meager storm]

And they were crying

Give me something like that

Make treants cast sunfire too

[eager raft]

make syzygy apply all 3 dots!!!!!!!!

[lofty depot]

Its crazy they have a talent that dots everything and I have 1 that makes my dot hit 1 additional target

[meager storm]

Bring back pulsar and make it proc syzygy

[eager raft]

You also have 1 that make your other dot hit all targets

[lofty depot]

No

They deleted that

Cuz it was dumb

[eager raft]

applying a dot to mobs is too hard blizz please

[meager storm]

S4 shadowlands was the best boomy felt

[lofty depot]

Had too much fun on a fake season

[meager storm]

even if u removed frenzy

[hollow mist]

need simpler rotation now

[lofty depot]

Been in prison ever since

[meager storm]

I wonder if we will ever take incarn again on st ever

[calm ibex]

True

[lofty depot]

If they bring back pulsar-esc talent maybe

[calm ibex]

Make it 3 buttons instead of 5

[lofty depot]

Convoke does too much damage

Wcyd

[calm ibex]

Yeah makes buffing our st hard

[eager raft]

I don’t even think incarn is that much worse than convoke in practice

[lofty depot]

Maybe. If they buffed moons

[meager storm]

Make flare put all 3 dots

Just like whatever spriest has

[lofty depot]

Cuz u wouldn't be able to get all ur moons out with convoke

[calm ibex]

Think remove convoke and give us ravenous frenzy

[lofty depot]

Giga brain

[lucid olive]

fuck dots, rework mastery

[calm ibex]

To do what

[lofty depot]

Increase spender damage

[meager storm]

Back to eclipse mastery

[lucid olive]

remove waning

doghsit talent

[meager storm]

Waning future mastery

[lofty depot]

Make eclipse empowerments

I pray for the day

[lucid olive]

move lunar amp from EC tree to spec tree

and make it high up

remove shooting stars talent and bake it into solstice instead

[eager raft]

buff astral communion

[meager storm]

How about they get a boomy dev first

[lofty depot]

Were not allowed one

[meager storm]

AC will be a perma pick whenever they rework our tree

Just revert it

To the 25 AP entering eclipse

So 50 on CA

And remove nb

Or bake it into nb idk man

Dog shit talent

[lucid olive]

Communion would be cool with new EC tier set

if you werent so fucking strapped for talents at the bottom

[lofty depot]

All the cool talents suck

[eager raft]

Yeah with the current tree/tuning there will never be a point for ascom

[lofty depot]

Wcyd

[meager storm]

Nb sucks

What a dogst talent

[signal temple]

More Starsurges

[lucid olive]

should rip an @ everyone like DK discord did and start social media campaign to rework balance

[meager storm]

U could have that with AC

And way more surges

[nova ocean]

Wats great is that it's competition is so bad it still gets taken sometimes

[eager raft]

#GripIsNOTARaidBuff

[meager storm]

Gotta do ptr groups too

Not a single boomy signs up for a key on s3

[lofty depot]

#reworkchicken1>reworkspr500

[meager storm]

Till rework

Holy

[pseudo merlin]

crash?

its 6 targets

[lofty depot]

Like I said

[signal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/adult-swim-comedy-billy-witch-doctor-arise-chicken-arise-gif-3382769

[lucid olive]

give us an extra spender that cots 80 AP with a cooldown and an effect that buffs our dam

like full moons but a spender instead and tuned to do more than piss dam

[nova ocean]

They should make it a 134 second CD so it helps desinc our other shit more

[lofty depot]

They need to make moons the evoker thing

[nova ocean]

The empowerment thing?

[lofty depot]

Ye

[meager storm]

I still don’t get why ca is 12s but the rest of our sht 15s

[lofty depot]

And then it not so piss dam

[lucid olive]

CA is 15s no

Whriling makes it 12

[lofty depot]

Ye

[round field]

well

since its a mandatory talent

[lucid olive]

yee

[meager storm]

I mean it’s mandatory

[round field]

saying ca is 12 seconds

is fine

[lucid olive]

Moons should be more like IceFury

[lofty depot]

Ur gonna give me 4 full moons that are instant cast?

[lucid olive]

nah they still cycle through new, half and full

but instant casts and on a proc instead of a charge CD

[lofty depot]

Can proc......

Now we're talking

[meager storm]

MOBGA

Make OB great again

Thoughts

[lofty depot]

Idk lack of any creativity

Don't want to change anything ever

Big sadge

[meager storm]

Also the moon proc from convoke should do more dmg

That sht is doing .7% of my dmg when it crits

[lofty depot]

Should happen Everytime

Then we change incarn to extend 1sec every 30 asp spent

[meager storm]

Tbf with how short our cds are that wouldn’t be bad

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-9847563535340183733

[lofty depot]

Should be able to get a double maybe 3 incarn with lust

Oh and bot talent

[lucid olive]

I like Folty's idea of baking the Incarn crit chance and extra duration into baseline CA and then changing Incarn to actually make you feel powerful inside your cooldowns

Which would make the choice between Incarn and Convoke more interesting

[lofty depot]

I mean yea, incarn as a talent is fucking bland

[pseudo merlin]

incarn being buffed up would run the risk of it becoming 3 min agai ntho

[lofty depot]

It doesn't change CA enough

[pseudo merlin]

you dont want that

[lucid olive]

No it wouldn't?

[pseudo merlin]

I mean maybe if its just incarn and not CA and its turbo buffed

[lucid olive]

The cooldown is Orbital Strike and Whirling Stars

which aren't tied to Incarn at all

Baseline CA is still 3m but reduced by what talent you take in the choice node below it

[meager storm]

True and make incarn rev frenzy

Not an overall dmg amp but maybe every casted spell gives u 1% of all the stats

[lofty depot]

Honestly should've been the play from the get go

Rav vs convoke :/

[meager storm]

so u end up with like 20% of mast,vers,haste,crit

Holy

[lucid olive]

Make Incarn be like "every free Starsurge or Starfall cast does X" with X being just some effect that gives you more dam

Like an amp, more stats etc

and then change Starweaver to be tied to your Eclipse

and double dip them in CA/Incarn

[lofty depot]

Tiedddd to eclipse ?!!?

[meager storm]

Weaver should be baseline

Ngl

[lofty depot]

We're getting rid of that mother fuck

[meager storm]

Ight timeout this guy for a week

Oh the eclipse

[lucid olive]

Like "Starfall has a 50% chance to proc a free Starsurge, Starsurge has a 30% chance to proc a free Starfall" and tie it to Eclipse so you have 100% chance of free Starsurge and 60% chance of free Starfall in CA

[lofty depot]

Yea bud eclipse

[meager storm]

Untimeout this guy for a week

[lofty depot]

I've been on the war path since DF

Still no war and still eclipse :/

[meager storm]

And we end up star falling on cds

Prob gonna change the %s

[lofty depot]

Oh that cook

Yea

Imagine that shit, have fun writing that apl

[lucid olive]

idk I think that cook is fine if the free Starsurges actually did something cool

other than Hail of Stars which barely functions

Hail of Stars gives more Shooting Stars - Shooting Stars gives more AP

So casting a free spender increases your AP gen?

what a cook

[pseudo merlin]

They could easily try all these things

[lofty depot]

Hail of stairs needs to be surge dam increased by 15% and splits to 3 target for 1/2 the dam (if it doesn't split then surge damage increase by an additional 15%)

[pseudo merlin]

That's literally how shadow priest development works

[lucid olive]

Hail of Stars not applying if you spellqueue a free spender as your first cast in Eclipse also kinda sucks

[lofty depot]

We don't have a dev

So no dev-elopment

Unless we still have feral main

Who ever cooked s3 tier is a gamer tho

[pseudo merlin]

is boomie dev still doing like 6 specs

[quiet drift]

Starsurge does not need to cleave

[lofty depot]

Sure it does

[quiet drift]

This was a SL issue

[lofty depot]

Starfall at 8 targets, choo choo

Bfa gang rise up

[meager storm]

What dev

Last time I heard about a dev, either the mage or lock dev was helping us

[lofty depot]

Thought that was in DF, then we got a classic feral main

[meager storm]

Oh true

Feral guy

Just pay me with pringles and I can be the new dev

[lofty depot]

That's why in DF there was actually very little changed and was just like hot fixes to things

[lofty depot]

Sending ur app to ion

[meager storm]

Has to be scorching wavy loaded nachos pringles tho

They are gone

Idk if they stopped doing those

[lofty depot]

What in the

[meager storm]

Best flavor

Holy

It was so good

[pseudo merlin]

nah it was like 1 guy legit doing boomie, sp, and some other specs no1 gives a fuck about

i think like 3 or 4, maybe as high as 7

[lofty depot]

What in the fuck are those

[mighty mica]

looks like pringles

[pseudo merlin]

chili and lime

[mighty mica]

glad i could help

[meager storm]

That is not scorching wavy loaded nachos

[lofty depot]

Chili and lime more like wasting my thyme

[mighty mica]

-2

[meager storm]

Nothing compares

[mighty mica]

those sound great

[lofty depot]

Pringles got a be so bad for u

[pseudo merlin]

hot take

pringles are bad

[mighty mica]

they are

[pseudo merlin]

C tier chips super overhyped with insane marketing

[meager storm]

A lot of flavors are dogsht but that one

Holy

[lofty depot]

Probably pulverized a potato into dust and add a bunch of dogshit to it

[meager storm]

Only in stock in Massachusetts

Ight

wtf

[pallid bay]

you're NA bro

[lofty depot]

Time to go find a Pringles can in UK

[meager storm]

Better to eat Pringle’s than takis

[lofty depot]

I don't eat those either

[meager storm]

those blue takis are canca

[lofty depot]

I'm refined now, did 2 years of hard fast food lunch and I've seen the light. My body is a temple (minus the 4+ cokes I drink a day)

[meager storm]

Ggs

U will collect kidney stones

Make a collection from smallest to biggest

[lofty depot]

Who wants to die when they're 90, shit looks miserable

[pseudo merlin]

if youre american you should just keep eating pringles

Let's get real

You've never had real food in your life, so you might aswell eat what you enjoy

[mighty mica]

quiet everyone, ignorance is talking

[pseudo merlin]

Your great grandparents are probably the last people who ate some actual food

[lofty depot]

Tell that to my freezer full of a cow from Amish country

[pseudo merlin]

Ngl I'd gladly give up real food for guns and freedom though

[meager storm]

What is real food a toast with beans