balance

[pseudo merlin]

So like

Early bosses need to not be harder

[quiet drift]

Stix is a midraid boss

There are 3 hellokitty bosses before him

[pseudo merlin]

idk man

we still wipe to vexie

[leaden birch]

impossible

[pseudo merlin]

I wonder why imprison, paralysis and freezing trap work differently

despite all being 1 minute incaps

I dont understand at all

[round field]

Probably do 0 bikes and then blame guild

[pseudo merlin]

yeah nobody wants to do bikes

I dont understand how you make an expansion with cinderbrew

make bees

enter bee > shoot bee

whole process takes 0.1 sec

then you make vexie and you're like: yeah this needs an 8 second fucking cast time

Anyway why the fuck do hunter trap and monk incap both pull 1st pack in TOP

But DH cage does not

What the actual fuck is the logic here

They're all 1 minute incaps

[hot laurel]

hey guys i got a question, we are using bis and hoc on cd? even if we dont have chosen of elune

[lofty depot]

Generally u want one for ur CDs yes

[scenic mist]

they said CoE for incarn ?
we've gone full circle

[lofty depot]

He?

[pseudo merlin]

dont you use both alongside CA always and atleast one of them on CAvoke?

idk I dont have bis

[leaden birch]

they share trink cd

[pseudo merlin]

Thanks Einstein

[leaden birch]

ur welcome

[pseudo merlin]

It's almost like you can use CA more than once

[sullen perch]

I believe you use HOC with first CA, then BIS with 2nd?

[pseudo merlin]

HOC first yes

But like you shouldnt be using them on cd

[leaden birch]

honestly, in m+ just play off vibes

[pseudo merlin]

AS the OP asked

And OP was saying KOTG

But you can also interpret that sentence as "on CD" meaning on CD and "on CD" meaning with a CD/CDs

on CD means you're popping BIS the moment your CA is over

and you're waiting for second trees

[lofty depot]

Which is why I said for ur cds

[leaden birch]

if it's kotg in raid, then most fights I do hoc/CA/trees/convoke, BIS/CA/trees, trees alone, hoc/ca/trees/convoke, BIS/trees

[pseudo merlin]

I doubt that's any good

[leaden birch]

any further than that I'm just vibing

[pseudo merlin]

Your sentence was incredibly ambiguous but I assume you mean you want to use both only with cds

[sullen perch]

this is what I do, minus the BIS

[leaden birch]

or I go check a lorrgs

[lofty depot]

Obvi

[pseudo merlin]

"Generally u want one for ur CDs yes" means you generally want one of the two with your cds

Which given the context of the question is a reasonable assumption

[lofty depot]

Well when u use 1 with first ca.... U then would use bis...........

[pseudo merlin]

And could mean the answer is yes

[lofty depot]

WITH THE SECOND CHARGE

[pseudo merlin]

I would assume so

[leaden birch]

minus BIS in general? or the 2nd use of BIS with trees

[pseudo merlin]

I love poking the arctic bear

[sullen perch]

I don't raid mythic on my druid, so no BIS

[leaden birch]

fair

[earnest sage]

can someone enlighten me, but I've a feeling starfall pulls randoms shit in m+ without it beeing in combat

is that true

[pseudo merlin]

no

starfall attacks target flagged for combat

[lofty depot]

There are likely people pulling things and u get aggro instantly because u have starfalls rolling

[pseudo merlin]

yup

[earnest sage]

exactly what I thought, and people pull up stats and saying "starfall pulled"

[lofty depot]

Yea post a log and can show

[pseudo merlin]

youll never win this fight

just give up

say nothing or just nod and smile

[lofty depot]

There are instances of it happening in older dungeons, but people just remember bfa and legion

Call them bald

[earnest sage]

It's like, I've to explain it the 4th time already to someone that starfall just doesn't pull something out of it's control

[pseudo merlin]

Yes targets flagged for combat included things like RP combat mobs in that sky people dungeon in SL

[earnest sage]

I get it

so just ur average 3k rio random

complaining

[pseudo merlin]

I mean if the context is the tank is bodypulling to set up a big pull and you whip out a starfall

that's you

but if we're talking pulling unintended targets, not starfall

[earnest sage]

nah I already learned from my mistakes

especially motherlord

:))

[cloud plover]

pov starfall is running and the cinderbrew hobo does a charge

certain death incoming

[pseudo merlin]

atleast the blobs are slot

slow

I think

[cloud plover]

yea but moving is a dps loss

[round field]

No its not

[earnest sage]

I had exactly this situation

[cloud plover]

hello iggy how are u today

[pseudo merlin]

I actually tanked 2 of them for 3 chain pulls

like the start of the hallway to the entrance of the boss room

was crazy

[round field]

u suck

[cloud plover]

did sola tell u to hate me

[round field]

i joined priest discord

and i saw ur there

so i left

[cloud plover]

yeah

i heard u wanted to play shadow

[round field]

wtf

solanis

already leaking

everything

pig

[cloud plover]

he always talks about u in shadow

anytime anything happens with u

IGNI DID THIS

IGNI SAID THIS

MY BOOMKIN DID THIS

and despite saying u have 3 boomkins its always known that he means u

[round field]

[scarlet tapir]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1349107260235845733.webp?size=96&animated=true

[quiet drift]

Leaklanis

[pseudo merlin]

If you win a roll on an item in LFR and its higher item level than what you got, you can still trade it right

the item level trade resitrction is for personal loot only

[maiden pasture]

There's no item level trade restriction in raids anymore

You can always trade raid loot within the trade window, that's why guilds have like loot holders in splits and shit

[pseudo merlin]

yeah some guy in LFR was adamant he couldnt trade me

[signal temple]

Well he was a big liar

[pseudo merlin]

It's ok, I strong armed him and got him to trade me

was an Italian so he probably didn't know any better

[maiden pasture]

[digital berry]

Excuse me

[pseudo merlin]

You are excused

[digital berry]

https://tenor.com/view/cinderella-fairy-godmother-magic-bippity-boppity-boo-gif-18609476

[pseudo merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-brian-gif-13873621

Me talking to the guy who owns the meat/cheese cart at the local italian market

BANGER Capocollo di calabria

[white chasm]

Are you guys dotting the assistants on OAB?

[loud kettle]

of course

[pseudo merlin]

dot targets that live long enough to meet dot criteria and also actually need to be damaged

[drifting nova]

you're in romania no?

[pseudo merlin]

who knows

[lofty depot]

Crazy bamkin

[loud kettle]

crazyhoot if u will

[lofty depot]

👀

Lies

[loud kettle]

The 4 parse is me wearing an agi weapon sry

[royal zenith]

unforgivable

[loud kettle]

I forgot to switch it back to int after sprocketmonger

[lofty depot]

Crazy work

[fossil hemlock]

I got a weakaura to tell me after I did a whole-ass +12 with an int weapon as guardian

[loud kettle]

Smart

[round field]

crazy

how u can be bad

at not 1 spec

but 2

[loud kettle]

bad at 40 specs

[real shard]

Which belt enchant is prefered in m+? Every moonkin is with chargee bolts in io 😮

[loud kettle]

charged bolts got nerfed

its whichever stat one sims highest

[maiden pasture]

WE are bad at every spec

[pseudo merlin]

feral is quite good in keys atm right

I've seen 0 in like 400 keys

[azure vale]

wrong chat bud

xdd

[orchid ember]

That's an armory issue, good chance they aren't using that power but wow armory shows the default

[lofty depot]

One of the top groups uses feral I think

[pseudo merlin]

guess its just too hard for ppl

[lofty depot]

Brew, rsham, feral, hunter + something, can't remember

[loud kettle]

Yea u dont see boomy + feral in same group

Feral is in a melee comp

[lofty depot]

Yea no point

[loud kettle]

Well phys dmg

silly hunters

[lofty depot]

Surv hunter inc

[pseudo merlin]

ye but i play ret and mm too

and ww

[scarlet tapir]

u try to

u dont actually do

[loud kettle]

low pop spec that sees play in the off-meta comp

Nobody gonna reroll to that

[lofty depot]

Did u play boomkin on stix?

[loud kettle]

yea

[lofty depot]

Council of dream?

[loud kettle]

I was disc priest

[lofty depot]

Ah

Crazy ethical orange bar

[pseudo merlin]

ye but (season 2 stats)

376 keys 0 catrrs

crazy

[lofty depot]

Not crazy

Unless ur farming a piece of gear and need a leather trader

Me doing 45 workshops inviting 3 mages

[crimson spade]

what uhh... addon/wa is that?

[pseudo merlin]

can tell you after key

[cloud plover]

catrrs

[pseudo merlin]

[dusky flax]

Is bear form the best defensive in the game?

[lofty depot]

No

[meager storm]

🥀

[lofty depot]

Ice cold and alter time are both better

[pseudo merlin]

yes

they should put a 3 minute cd on it

and then let us talent into removing the cd

3 pointer

[lofty depot]

Seek help

[teal minnow]

How about frenzied Regeneration costing rage and having a cd combined?

[pseudo merlin]

Now you're cooking!

I believe that's what they call meaningful gameplay

[teal minnow]

How about bringing back the regent you used to use for rebirth but now you have to use it when you press trees as you need seeds to make trees grow

[crimson spade]

thanks!

[wooden sierra]

Hey somehow when I enter bear form for defence I get aggro in m+, is there like an auto taunt mechanism that im not aware of?

[pseudo merlin]

maple seed

it checks out

[pseudo merlin]

bear form (until next season) modifies (multiplies) threat generation

so all your puny dps threat instantly gets amplified

it's more meaningful gameplay

making your choices matter

do you want to die from unavoidable damage or do you want to die in bear form from aggro?

[wooden sierra]

I just started playing balance and ive never seen it happen a single time to other ppl, I dont get it

[signal temple]

Divine Shield exists

[pseudo merlin]

All there is to get is what I just wrote

[wooden sierra]

yeah i know

[pseudo merlin]

Idk why it's still there

[wooden sierra]

but feels wrong when I dont have maxed dmg yet too

[pseudo merlin]

But they've finally recognised it as a problem, and are removing it

yeah it could just be a bad tank

idk i have never had it happen

[wooden sierra]

but ive seen maxed boomkins full blast and go into bearform with 0 things happening

[pseudo merlin]

actually i have, once

yeah

maxed boomkins play with maxed tanks

its probably a tank issue

[wooden sierra]

I just did a 12 as 660 boomkin and had a 682 tank dh

feels off

[pseudo merlin]

don't underestimate how bad people are

[wooden sierra]

but yeah maybe he was just bad at holding aggro

[pseudo merlin]

especially in 12s, which are weekly keys

[wooden sierra]

he had like 3300 rio

but yeah

quite easy to get nowadays with resilient

So I can be sure its not like a hidden mechanism im missing then, its just tank diff?

but yeah wont be as much in bearform for sure in that case

[pseudo merlin]

I wasn't there so, maybe you went super ham before he was done pulling? idk

[teal minnow]

This is some meaningful and engaging gameplay, I am glad I get to make choices like this that will only enhance my video game experience

[wooden sierra]

dont have super much dmg, so feels wrong if that was the case

[pseudo merlin]

You could've fat fingered taunt too, but that would be 1 target

[pseudo merlin]

don't underestimate the threat generation of dots rolling in CA with a bunch of stacked starfalls

[wooden sierra]

yeahhh

[pseudo merlin]

sounds weird either way but it's just bear form threat multiplier

[pseudo merlin]

Jokes aside I think it would be cool if you could toggle it, I absolutely have had some situations where tank died and I could kite with my residual threat and that was awesome

But it definitely should not be baseline

like Righteousness or w/e it was called for paladin threat back in the day

righteous fury

[wooden sierra]

yeahh agreed

feels bad to be punished so hard by "bad" tanks

in higher keys where I just get obliterated

both if I dont go in bearform, and if I do XD

but yeah thanks for telling me, was going crazy this key thinking I had some weird taunt shit on

but did you say its gone next season?

[teal minnow]

Yeah I thought i was going mad when I bearformed to take a chair hit and all.of a sudden everyone wanted to be my friend ... guess its an actual thing

[lofty depot]

They lowered it for 11.2

Now watch theyll add an off tank boss that we need to keep aggro with like coven

[pseudo merlin]

I thought it was but like Arctic said, it's lowered apparently

[pseudo merlin]

oh boy

[lofty depot]

Think they lowered it by like 200% or some ahit

[dense steeple]

back in my day, i stood in the corner on desolate host and i liked it

[pseudo merlin]

wait

youre not calling legion back in your day

that's like yesterday

[dense steeple]

i just meant from a threat perspective

i hadnt had to do any tanking nonsense since offnight in icc 10

but then i was just a main tank

[somber path]

just 9 years ago for legion

[plucky yacht]

how much time does it take to get from 640 ish ilvl to at least 670?

[drifting nova]

30ilvls

[lucid olive]

a day

[pseudo merlin]

40-60 HOURS

[lofty depot]

same

[lucid olive]

cap

can do that in a day of spamming m+

[pseudo merlin]

Depends on whether or not you mythic raid right

if you're just running keys, it's 1200 crests from 655

which is 40-60 hours

maybe 30 if you got friends to pump 12s with

[lucid olive]

get m+ hero track gear and spam for gilded crests

[pseudo merlin]

yes

oh wait hang on

[plucky yacht]

but that requires at least +8 right?

[pseudo merlin]

I calced from 640

[lucid olive]

yeah hard to get hero track gear without hero track dungeons

[pseudo merlin]

it's 600 crests

so its like 10-30 hours

[lucid olive]

can do that in a day easy with some motivation

[pseudo merlin]

depending on if you factored in belt

[pseudo merlin]

yo

is there some addon that shows me exactly which mount I'm missing and where I get it

[dense steeple]

Ehh

Kinda

[pseudo merlin]

gotta prepare for tomorrow

[dense steeple]

Those aren't ideal

Use simplearmory

[pseudo merlin]

How do I streamline tomorrows month long mount grind

simplearmory? ok

[dense steeple]

Simplearmory best way to streamline

Website not addon

Sec

[pseudo merlin]

i found it

[dense steeple]

I figured you would

[pseudo merlin]

am I gaming?

[dense steeple]

Wanted to make sure you see something else

[pseudo merlin]

compared to normal people

not you

[dense steeple]

Youre always gaming bigdog

[pseudo merlin]

oh shit

thx 😊

[dense steeple]

click planner

[pseudo merlin]

OK THIS IS HUGE

[dense steeple]

after you click collectible -> mounts

[dense steeple]

thats actually really small

[pseudo merlin]

holy shit

this planner

wait but

who decided on this

can I like customise this

[dense steeple]

not really no

[pseudo merlin]

Rukhmar is gonne go hard

So I can't say which mounts I do and do not want?

[dense steeple]

honestly dont try to do this list on every character lol

i can imagine your list is 400 steps

[pseudo merlin]

I mean it's not super important because looking at steps 1-33 that's literally all the mounts I actually want

so its already convenient enough

nah it says 40 steps?

[dense steeple]

stops at 40? generous planner

my boy got like 15 mounts

and he only got 40 setps

[pseudo merlin]

honestly

[pseudo merlin]

I thought I would be able to click on all the greyed out mounts here

to generate instructions for those selected

that would go so fucking hard

[dense steeple]

instead it takes you to the wowhead page for them which has comments of weird shit that you might need to do instead

[pseudo merlin]

what do I do for these

[dense steeple]

cry and beg for trading post forgiveness

[pseudo merlin]

thats like

300 buckaroos

maybe 600

yo but do you have this?

[dense steeple]

id be surprised if you have more than one or two mounts i dont have

[meager storm]

when do they usually do tuning for ptr

mondays?

dont remember

[pseudo merlin]

I didnt buy on bmah tho

[lucid olive]

it can vary i think

but before friday

[pseudo merlin]

how much did you pay for blizzard bear

[dense steeple]

about 1/3 of current market price

[pseudo merlin]

I got it for free

From my US friend

:kek

[dense steeple]

its just there cause it cant be anywhere else now. i also didnt buy mine on the BMAH

you actually have more mounts than i thought you would that i dont have

[pseudo merlin]

I'm not a collector for collecting

I just like a lot of mounts and I got the ones I really wanted

or well mostly

[pseudo merlin]

wasnt expecting to have any you didnt tbh

I didnt have enough time to get scarab lord

[dense steeple]

youve been bug abusing that i havent for starters. you have 2 mounts there i dont for that reason

[pseudo merlin]

went on holiday

WOA

calling me a cheater cuz I bested you

smh

which one?

[dense steeple]

you have a mount that hasnt "technically" been released yet

the pirate dragon from turbulent timeways

[pseudo merlin]

oh the dragon

ye lul

[dense steeple]

and raid renown 20

thats 2 right there

cause i didnt bug abuse

[pseudo merlin]

I didnt either

I'm just plying the game

wait im renown 18

huh

[dense steeple]

oh nvm i looked at it wrong

[pseudo merlin]

ye

[dense steeple]

i thought you did the renown 20 bug that 5 million others did

[pseudo merlin]

i dont have the flarendo one

[dense steeple]

youve got both raid mounts for this tier

i dont have either 🙂

[pseudo merlin]

💀

I got the rare one from last tier

[dense steeple]

the real way to get me is to have basically any bfa mount tho

[pseudo merlin]

but I gave the CE mount away

nah i dont have much

[dense steeple]

damn sucks to suck

thats the expac im missing the most in

[pseudo merlin]

is BFA when they started spam implementing open world rare mounts

[dense steeple]

yea

from classic -> legion im missing a total of 3 mounts

[pseudo merlin]

damn, which ones

battle tank?

[dense steeple]

i do not include black tank

i wasnt even close to that

[pseudo merlin]

oh

all 3 of those are basically guaranteed next month

trust

or this month rather

[dense steeple]

eh if i stop being lazy and go do them sure

[pseudo merlin]

do it

[dense steeple]

im not worried about legion one

cause remix

[pseudo merlin]

10x chance is crazy

i mean assuming itl work the same way

[dense steeple]

yeah it'll be a 10% chance to drop instead of 1%

[pseudo merlin]

i hope so

spirehawk would be...

1% ?

3%?

[dense steeple]

i think spirehawk is still 1%

[pseudo merlin]

oh they increased it?

when they increased those sha mounts

MOP open world ones

[dense steeple]

spirehawk was always 1%

[pseudo merlin]

cuz those were 1 in 1000 right

you sure?

i dont think it was

[dense steeple]

mop ones were 1/2000

[pseudo merlin]

That was one of those 1/2k ones

[dense steeple]

nah it missed the mark for some reason

basically they realized 1/2000 was shit chance so they just put it back to standard rate

[pseudo merlin]

ah

No I mean originally wasnt it

they changed it a few years ago

OR did it go live at 1%

[dense steeple]

it went live at 1

[pseudo merlin]

i see

[dense steeple]

it just feels worse than other rares because you have to stand there for 15 minutes minimum, get a tag, and can only do it once a week

[pseudo merlin]

yeah thats why i never bothered

[dense steeple]

i occassionally go out there

but yeah cba

[pseudo merlin]

I love the charhounds and attumen mount tho

[dense steeple]

i have 4 digit mount count

so why bother

[pseudo merlin]

cant wait for those

but like honestly

The only mounts I use for flying are: CM phoenixes (remix phoenix recolor goes hard as fuck too) and fire bird

[dense steeple]

i just go owl form xd

[pseudo merlin]

and for ground mounts I only use SoO HC wolf and zulian tiger

[dense steeple]

i spit in the face of the collectors who are nondruid mains

did i ever tell you about my zg tiger?

[pseudo merlin]

nah

[dense steeple]

i got it less than an hour before the shattering went live

day of

[pseudo merlin]

damn nice

that's the cata prepatch?=

was that when it was removed?

[dense steeple]

yup

[pseudo merlin]

nice

I farmed that shit back during first tier of BC

Was hard work

[dense steeple]

my biggest regret was not liking mounts until just before cata released

ZA is getting reworked and the mount is being removed? who caaares

never got it

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah that's probably my only regret

I ran ZA dozens of times

a few timed runs

But I never got it

I think the battle bear is so cool

and the recolors suck

but this is easily my favorite mount

huge fan

[dense steeple]

can relate

[pseudo merlin]

IF they ever rerelease it i'll be proper mad

[round oracle]

cant imagine not only using owl form and swift spectral tiger

[dense steeple]

if they ever rerelease it will not give a fuck

my current go to's

if i dont use owl form

[pseudo merlin]

ye zulian and voidtalon bis

what's that electric bird

[dense steeple]

stormcrow

[pseudo merlin]

i dont remember that one

[dense steeple]

datamined in like fucking wod

addewd to the game in this xpac

[pseudo merlin]

ahh

[dense steeple]

oh sorry

datamined in mop

[pseudo merlin]

I like the drake models for the N/E/S/W drakes too

from cata

[dense steeple]

was said to be obtainable in wod

then never added

i still need the 5th drake

of the winds

[pseudo merlin]

huh, 5th?

[dense steeple]

type ishak

[pseudo merlin]

wtf

was that the guy who flew around around VP

over the water

[dense steeple]

in bfa yea

[pseudo merlin]

oh that's why I dont have it

nzoth mount

not cata

[dense steeple]

its like a 2 hour spawn timer too

for a 1%

no thanks

[pseudo merlin]

yikes

like the storm peaks mount

[dense steeple]

nah thats not as bad

[pseudo merlin]

nvm that one is guaranteed atleast

[dense steeple]

people abuse that one and guaranteed yea

theres literally 8 phases per realm that people hop around in to find tlpd

thats why shitty botters sell it all the time

[pseudo merlin]

yikes

[dense steeple]

same thing with the aeonaxx mount and the grey camel

[pseudo merlin]

ye

i tried farming the camel for a bit

oh wait

i have it

[dense steeple]

lets go

[pseudo merlin]

raid skips are account wide now right

[dense steeple]

yes

[mossy night]

what class would someone say plays similar to booomkin, looking foor an alt but dont want something completley diffferent in the playstyle

[cloud citrus]

assas rogue is melee boomy

[lucid olive]

destro

[pseudo merlin]

MM

[lofty depot]

fire mage >

[calm ibex]

Dev evoker is just boomy but with passive resource generation

And stacked cleave instead of spread

[pseudo merlin]

yeah but how do you tell your parents you're a scalie

[dapper wing]

How do you tell your parents your a furry. Your playing druid

[lofty depot]

#feral go ask them

[severe hollow]

their parents already know

[dapper wing]

They are open about it

[potent cargo]

to ur face

behind ur back tho...

hmm

[primal oriole]

hello fellow boomy mains. im new here. nice to meet you all. i am currently pondering about HoC i have a champ track one currently with a Hero track Mug's... im wondering if its worth keeping the HoC champ track until i get a hero or myth upgrade of it a hero signet would be better

[lofty depot]

that last sentance doesnt make sense

1 sim it
2 generally champ trinket not gonna be better than a myth one

[primal oriole]

i don't have a myth one.. the question was keeping it since its the BIS for boomy.

[lofty depot]

champ track isnt bis

[primal oriole]

or upgrading to something else in hero or myth track

[lofty depot]

so another trinket could likely out sim it because of that

[pseudo merlin]

Do I use LFR hoc or mythic flarendo?

[dense steeple]

lfr hoc 100 P

[delicate perch]

neither, log off

[signal temple]

It really isn't
They have no burst

[dense steeple]

neither do boomies

[vital hound]

boomies have nothing

[dense steeple]

i got this tho

[meager storm]

they should do another torghast

[hollow mist]

and better defensives and mobility and u get to hang out with the coolest ppl

[dense steeple]

big and true

ok im going to bed

im oldge

[calm ibex]

Damn am I not cool 😭

Wait I’m in there too

I am cool

[spare dune]

Dev has better defensives?

[true viper]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[hollow mist]

sure does

[hollow mist]

u are very cool darling

[vital hound]

this is a great meme

[calm ibex]

I’ve tricked another

[wild dune]

bear form

[hollow mist]

true thats the best defensive in game

u wont hear anything abt it in here tho

[calm ibex]

Idk about best defensive

But it’s good

Just stops you doing dps lmao

If you could dps in bear it would 100% be the best defensive

[quiet drift]

Bear form in itself is whatever

Frenzied regen is op as shit

[drifting nova]

is it tho

[wild dune]

[drifting nova]

the equivalent of taking 3 left turns

instead of just 1 right

[lucid olive]

And other specs who have defensives with the same drawbacks are immunities

[drifting nova]

warriors be like..wtf is a defensive

[calm ibex]

yup

and even then some classes like mage has shit to get out of the no dmg

like yeah its not an immune anymore

BUT ITS 70%

[lofty depot]

i havent proc'd ice cold unless were wiping

i dont alter anything anymore cuz my healers can parse

mage is op and doesnt need to use defensives

[clever ibex]

how nerfed will we be when they fix dryad bug on PTR?

[crisp scaffold]

Since the values on the tierset tooltip says something and in reality the spell hits 10 times more..

[calm ibex]

idk why the fuck are you asking me

lmao

[meager storm]

i think they will rework it

[crisp scaffold]

Idk whats to rework ,just take the value the tooltip says

[meager storm]

well there is degen gameplay tied to it

[empty girder]

Hello guys, I'm not sure where should I ask this, but I just completed my class hall campaign and unlocked the forged for battle achievement. Unfortunately, the new appearances are not showing as you can see on the picture below. Does anybody has an idea of what happened? Thank you!

[digital berry]

To fix that you just need to change numbers, rework would imply changing how it works or what it does

Oh yeah no that sounds absolutely cringey behavior

[tidal cypress]

Try a relog that usually works!

[clever ibex]

Lol, wasn’t meant to be a reply

[vapid anvil]

Anyone have a soothe wa for rookery?

[empty girder]

Thank you!! it worked 🙂

[royal zenith]

calm down

or else...

[delicate perch]

what does being calm do

nothing smh

[royal zenith]

serenity

[plucky yacht]

Should i wait for my set to be all heroic gear and after that upgrade it with the catalyst or should i just do the champion gear as well?
I have 8 crest or whatso called.

[round field]

Hero gear is very easy to get

Catalyst 4 hero pieces

And then u have 4 more for myth pieces

[plucky yacht]

Its easy just need couple hours to get it done in mythic or if i have luck with the weekly gear

[maiden pasture]

Good song

[royal zenith]

no idea

[twin lotus]

Took a break end of BFA, returned late DF. I miss swiftmend being usable without hot. Loved throwing them out. But yeah, maybe give boomies a talent for survival insticts.

I will never forgive blizzard for taking our blink away from us. RIP displacer beast

[cloud plover]

healing abilities in my balance chat?

[twin lotus]

loved throwing a wild growth in azshara and getting 5 people to full

[cloud plover]

sounds like a wannabe resto druid to me, get him back into his jail cell

[twin lotus]

[royal zenith]

they specifically made any sort of hybrid gaming weaker

cause that would just mean you bring no healer to M+ or less healers to raid

survivability is also not really an issue anymore

[maiden pasture]

Should give it a listen, Lindsey Stirling song

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/duRi9LpAyvq.gif

[hollow mist]

cursed..

[vital hound]

[hollow mist]

-# dont stare at me plz im very self conscious

[vital hound]

[royal zenith]

don't confuse self-conscious with self-centered

[hollow mist]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/940843174769868810/975140241952350248/unknown.gif

[vital hound]

im with ya lakerz

nothing i hate more than deuy

[hollow mist]

ty for having my back

[vital hound]

anytime

[severe hollow]

What about feral players?

[royal zenith]

:)

[vital hound]

id rather be a friend of a cat than a cop

[royal zenith]

he's coping so hard

[pseudo merlin]

@dense steeple https://www.wowhead.com/news/drop-chances-for-mop-and-wod-world-boss-mounts-greatly-increased-329953

spirehawk is included here tho

You were gaslighting me

[round field]

why wouldnt it be?

why not

just let people have shiny mounts

[pseudo merlin]

It's entirely out of line with the reasoning

[royal zenith]

I would stop playing wow honestly

that's crazy

[round field]

what is

[pseudo merlin]

me and soma talked about this yday

youre missing all the context

[round field]

give context

[pseudo merlin]

scroll up buddy

anyone need gold making tip

I got like 30k worth of boes in this 1 mythic dazaralor

assuming anyone actualljy buys this shit

[maiden pasture]

30k 😭

If old ass boes sell 😭

Bro is making pennies

[dense steeple]

Oh shit toure right I did. My bad

[pseudo merlin]

idk what the base was though

scrolling wowhead comments it was like 0.2 and not like that 1 in 2k shit

but who knows

[pseudo merlin]

idk 30k in 20 minutes is pretty good money for people who can't boost I would say

IF I wasn't boosting I wouldn't have a fucking clue how to even begin to make any money

[dense steeple]

Its clearly too long ago to even matter tbh

[hidden thorn]

Just do any content and keep all the BOE and sell them

[severe hollow]

even for tmog 100k/h is actually quite good

and tmog sells, just not that fast

[severe hollow]

just like in life the best start is to have a few million

[amber raven]

hey guys, someone know where can i find best dps with druid balance for one buttons ? GSE 🙂

[pseudo merlin]

true

[royal zenith]

give me a few million irl

[pseudo merlin]

You mean like the performance numbers using OBR or?

I think there was a wowhead article

[amber raven]

maybe, like one buttons and spam all

[pseudo merlin]

wdym maybe

[amber raven]

macros

[pseudo merlin]

I don't understand the question

You want to know what the max damage possible is using one button compared to sim dps with normal play?

[solemn idol]

Sounds like he wants a macro that'll do a full rotation but I'm confused now too

[pseudo merlin]

Otherwise the only macro would be adding [nochanneling: Convoke] to your OBR macro

so you dont cancel convoke while spamming it

[amber raven]

there is name addons GSE

[pseudo merlin]

I give up

[severe hollow]

GSE is an addon, which imo, existed because blizz didnt wanna kill it due to accesability

I think its very likely its gonna be kill soon

[jade flume]

All addons are kill soon

[amber raven]

yes

[pseudo merlin]

All addons are kill soon

[severe hollow]

most other addons are in a completly different spot tho

[pseudo merlin]

does jaina have a raid skip?

[severe hollow]

wasnt there sth to skip to bob?

[pseudo merlin]

been too long

I don't remember

[amber raven]

like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDNkOwDS7js it for feral but i try for balance

[severe hollow]

go at it

[pseudo merlin]

oh you can skip straight to jaina

[severe hollow]

that feels new

[pseudo merlin]

that's what I thought but the blue post is from 2k20

[severe hollow]

yea but that is new

[pseudo merlin]

I dont actually remember when we were in dazaralor

was it not 2k20

[severe hollow]

2018? maybe

[lucid olive]

Yeah 2020 was SL

[pseudo merlin]

ah

[severe hollow]

january 2019

[pseudo merlin]

added super late then I guess

[severe hollow]

I was close

[lucid olive]

EP was halfway in 2019

[pseudo merlin]

sitting here farming old raids and waiting for goblins to spawn in dornogal cuz its the 1st of July

But EU probably doesn't get the event until tomorrow

🙂

[lucid olive]

Gg

I enjoy farming old raids but the only thing I want is the Argus scythe

[pseudo merlin]

there's blue and red right

i have blue

[lucid olive]

And I can't make it to Antorus without a summon

[cloud plover]

just do the story?

[pseudo merlin]

wdym

[scenic mist]

idk if drop got buffed too, but post did mention tmog and legendary weapon

[pseudo merlin]

do you need to like do the story once?

[cloud plover]

Ya

u need to do story once to unlock the teleporter

[pseudo merlin]

rip for you then

[cloud plover]

but its like

[lucid olive]

There's a quest in Stormwind that I'm supposed to do but my character is phased

[cloud plover]

15 min to unlock that teleporter

dont even need to do more

[lucid olive]

So questgiver isn't there

[cloud plover]

there's nothing in stormwind

its all in dalaran

[pseudo merlin]

Just do every quest in the game until you're no longer phased?

[cloud plover]

[pseudo merlin]

Also it's all in dalaran

there was never anything outside of dalaran im pretty sure

[lucid olive]

I've gone through every quest in that chain and did the macro thing to see what I've done

[cloud plover]

yep

[pseudo merlin]

you just talk to Khadbro on the flightpath

[lucid olive]

And the last quest I haven't done is not there

Idk if Stormwind or not but very much not available

The Stormwind one might've been Nyalotha cause I remember checking that right after too

Why these things are quest locked after almost a decade is beyond me

[pseudo merlin]

Gotta work for it buddy

just like we all did

@dense steeple do you use some kind of addon for making sure you dont miss rares or do you just spam a /tar macro

[dense steeple]

Rarescanner, silver dragon, many addons for rares

Yo ravec

Quick thought

You mentioned how to get gold and shit

Theres gonna be like double drops on gear and shit from this event too

So the raw gold from all these runs will add up

[pseudo merlin]

oh

might be nice

I'm planning on going hard

[dense steeple]

High key might just run 50 NH and Antorus

[pseudo merlin]

i dont have that many chars

got like 7 80s and 6 70s?

I just have everything once but two druids

I'm not on your level

Think trash drops will be included

[dense steeple]

???

You can clear nh on like a level 55

Literally 1 shot

[pseudo merlin]

gotta have one right

or you mean spam create dks or something

[dense steeple]

You have 13 characters

Only?

[pseudo merlin]

yeah

[dense steeple]

Oh

[pseudo merlin]

I mean maybe a few more

but like level 19 twinks

[dense steeple]

I thought you were just worried because you had shitter alts that weren't cap

[pseudo merlin]

nah

that would only matter for like SL raids

[dense steeple]

Like i have 2 lvl 80s

[pseudo merlin]

Did you see the outrage over the event

They said drops increased up to 10x, and the latest post says drop rates increased to 5% or something

even though 10x is 5% in probably most cases

[severe hollow]

dont think thats true

pretty sure most of the rare drops are 1%

[pseudo merlin]

actually its +5%

[orchid ember]

There was a good copy pasta going around from the wowhead comments from someone who didn't understand how math worked

[pseudo merlin]

I bet

[pseudo merlin]

Did they ever release official figures on mounts or does it remain just an average through wowhead drop data

Didnt they specify the percentage values tied to the different drop rate wordings on wowarmory at some point

like rare = X, extreme = X

[severe hollow]

not sure

[pseudo merlin]

I can't find it but at some point through an official blizzard source, I think on the armory somewhere because I recognise the ui/website, they specified what drop percentages or % ranges were tied to the rarity wording

[fickle lagoon]

can some1 tell me why did they make celestial alignment 1.7min cd? i find it so annoying why couldnt it be 1.5 lol

[pseudo merlin]

I mean they didnt

Talents reduce the cd

As to why the talents we pick lead to a reduction that gets you to 1.7 idk about their reasoning

Maybe because 1.7 + 15s is almost 2 minutes, and they thought about KOTG

[fickle lagoon]

yeah but they could have reduced it to a normal CD not a random 1.7 which nothing aligns to celestial ALIGNment 😦 makes me cry

[pseudo merlin]

well that's not really how it works because you have two charges

two charges + KOTG

means it aligns with everything

and that's insanely good

[fickle lagoon]

dont you press both together?

:V

[pseudo merlin]

WHAT?

[lofty depot]

U don't lose anything from holding CA, so "aligning" isnt a problem

[pseudo merlin]

Double pressing CA doesn't do anything, please don't do that

I mean it does, it wastes one charge

[lofty depot]

Well pressing 2 charges at the same time wasn't what I was saying

And isn't how u use the cooldown

Sooooo

[lucid olive]

Orbital Strike makes it 2 minutes

That's a normal CD

[warm quail]

Hey! I guess it was discussed about 94278934 times, but should I postpone getting into eclipse, until all shit is dotted up (to align boat with starfall spam)? Should I spend unbuffed starfalls to avoid capping while dotting up? (ie. PSF first pull)

[pseudo merlin]

Starfall doesnt snapshot, there's no such thing as unbuffed starfall

pretty much nothing in this game does unless you play feral

[lofty depot]

1. U dot before enter eclipse/incarn yes
2. U don't do it for boat
3. U can spend a Starfall sure
4. Read the prio list

[jade flume]

Chaos bolt snaps on the shot

[pseudo merlin]

Be that as it may, I don't think that's what anyone would refer to as snapshotting right

That's just a difference between on activation and on hit

[jade flume]

Yes but i felt like writing something dumb

[severe hollow]

all spells snapshot haste at the start of the spell!

(I also wanted to write sth dumb)

[pseudo merlin]

Thank fuck for getting that last cast in when SL expires

feels good

[lofty depot]

If I channel convoke does it snap to the target?

[jade flume]

It can snap to dn

[pseudo merlin]

If you convoke it will snap regrowths on all your allies

[round field]

ok

but

defending

[pseudo merlin]

I'm so happy Blizzard is getting rid of addons to DIY everything

[round field]

1.7min cd

is criminal

regardless of

[pseudo merlin]

This is the result of Blizzard's own backpack "auto sort" feature

Very nicely sorted 🙂

[round field]

2nd charge / control

[lofty depot]

Not even a top 10 complaint

[jade flume]

No shot u can come up with 10 complaints

[round field]

wrong?

i dare you to come up with 10 good things about the spec instead

[lofty depot]

Ur 6-9

[pseudo merlin]

I got nothing

[jade flume]

Big dam

Thats all u need

[round field]

will get gutted

next?

[jade flume]

Orange

[warm quail]

are there preliminary numbers already from 11.2 on meta? Or is it way too soon to discuss this in any way?

[round field]

way too soon

[pseudo merlin]

too soon

[lofty depot]

Week 2 of an 8 week ptr, way too soon

[pallid bay]

it actually is

but the bags are funny

[severe hollow]

oh shit you can actually do that now

thats big

[pallid bay]

starting position of a bag should be inversed

[pseudo merlin]

Sure but like

That should be fixed no

No addon has ever done this

Only the Blizzard default does

It's a sign of what's to come: Blizzard quality seal of approval

[pallid bay]

yea

[pseudo merlin]

it's so dumb

For the longest time I thought I just had a reagent bag equipped

[formal crest]

Clean your bags dude

[pseudo merlin]

My bags are very clean thank you very much

[formal crest]

Iron scraps. Blue rarity item. A million cloaks

[pseudo merlin]

You never know when you might be in need of iron scraps

Maybe we retire the flight master's whistle finally?

[severe hollow]

comments on mine

its perfection

[pseudo merlin]

It's beautiful

[lofty depot]

Use ur shit

[pseudo merlin]

brother

open the box

stream it

[formal crest]

I call this the asmongold special my god man

I thought you’d be more clean in bags

[severe hollow]

WHAT IF ITS VALUE GOES UP?

[lofty depot]

Hello?

[severe hollow]

yes?

[lofty depot]

He ienNrisk wj

Delete it

[severe hollow]

right

[pseudo merlin]

Did you play in WOTLK? If so do you remember you could buy a cask of dalaran wine and you could carry it with you to age it?

[severe hollow]

I did but I dont remember that

[lofty depot]

Now that's gameplay

[pseudo merlin]

I've been carrying mine around for 16 years

[severe hollow]

if you talk about the very useful cloak

bad news

[lofty depot]

Uhhh, put in transmog thingy

[severe hollow]

that costs gold

[lofty depot]

Sell some of those stupid items and u'll have aome

[severe hollow]

I need all of this

[pseudo merlin]

I'm still waiting for it to turn epic

any day now

[pallid bay]

(real time)

[lofty depot]

Well if the green and white versions had "real time" on it and the blue one doesn't

I don't think it's changing big dawg

[pseudo merlin]

Nah you're all wrong

[lofty depot]

"aged to perfection"

[pseudo merlin]

It will be more perfect

Just wait

Young me had a dream

I'm not giving up on my wine

[quiet drift]

11.2 ptr news

New dalaran wine variation added

[pseudo merlin]

wait till I sell this shit for 10m per glass

Some hardcore RPers will be salivating

[round ingot]

how broken is boomy on ptr? like how much is the bug providing it in terms of raw power?

[royal zenith]

what is "the bug"

[lofty depot]

Well if u use broken, not as the gaming term. Is pretty broken

And there's not just 1 bug

Wouldn't make any decisions on playing a class based on 1 week of ptr testing

[royal zenith]

You also can't put any number on what happens if all of this gets fixed

[pseudo merlin]

I can

[royal zenith]

cause it's literally whatever blizzard decides to do

[pseudo merlin]

(0)

[lofty depot]

Looks like ur vagine

[pseudo merlin]

thanks :3

new hearthstone dropped

[lofty depot]

Lower quality than ur wine, tragic

[pseudo merlin]

wrong

[round ingot]

its not about making a decision on what to play, its more about trying to get an understanding of how impactful the bugs are in terms of power - if you wouldnt gain/lose any power from a bug, a bug might just be annoying, cause it forces you to play around it, if it allows you to gain 200% more power in st, then that's a number you can put on it

[lucid olive]

what bug are you referring to

[lofty depot]

There's no point in putting a number value on something that will get fixed

[lucid olive]

also there aren't any sims available so putting a number on anything on the PTR is pure guesswork

[pallid bay]

infinite

[lofty depot]

Currently working in an unintended way and will change. Blizzord will do some changes and we will see how it works after that.

[severe hollow]

42

[pallid bay]

in its current state, abusing everything, you can do an absurd amount of damage

you'd do like a 28M opener

[pallid bay]

silly vigil healing

[primal marsh]

how does moonkin's starsurge do so much dmg on ptr ?

51M starsurge, wth ?

[lofty depot]

Not even that big

Tier set stores damage, bunch of modifiers

[dire osprey]

thats messy?

[formal crest]

yes

[pseudo merlin]

I took that screenshot after cleaning my bags too

[dire osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/danger-gif-15291718235185428481

[long turret]

are there ptr builds available somewhere to play with?

[lofty depot]

Not pinned anywhere no

Depending on what ur doing, the talents are largely the same

[wary plover]

Is neural synapse enhancer staff on myth track an upgrade from crafted 681 staff?

[lofty depot]

Did u sim it

[wary plover]

no its in my vault rn havent simmed it

[spice roost]

no its half the intellect

[lofty depot]

ShurnKelwkndntbt t

Sim it then

[wary plover]

ok will do

[earnest sage]

hey my druids whats the best mythic track trinket I can get here, have jug+HoC rn

[lofty depot]

Wax I suppose but if u have mhoc and mjug I don't see the point

[earnest sage]

nono hc both rn

[lofty depot]

Oh... Well then if u don't want the 2m trinkey then mwax and swap jug think

Sim it

[earnest sage]

wym with 2m trinket?

[lofty depot]

Signet....

[lucid olive]

Heroic jug for sure better than mythic wax

[lofty depot]

Maybe he wants a new trinkey

Should just get a m oab kill 🙂

[proud jay]

Mythic signet of the priory, or heroic house of cards?

[lofty depot]

Generally prefer hoc

Timings are better

[proud jay]

Ty Ty

[feral dust]

Hoc might be better in real situations even on heroic due to the timing lining up with cds

Btw next season there are two trinkets that resemble jug and hoc

[quiet drift]

On-use and passive?

[round oracle]

ara-ara passive and what

[feral dust]

One on use 1.30 cd from the new dungeon and a crit passive from delvest

Delves

[lofty depot]

Using the passive trinket from raid

With weapon thingy

And then likely Lily, maybe araz cuz of funny int

[feral dust]

Those might be bis but it's always good to know what the rest of the trinkets do especially for people who might not raid

[lofty depot]

get bis week 1, never learn what other trinkets do

[mighty isle]

Would we ever run eye of kezan over mythic mug jug/house of cards? Was thinking it might be worth on gally for sales if the fight lasts a long time

[pseudo merlin]

yes if fight lasts long enough for it to be worth

or you can keep combat up in keys

glhf