#balance

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drifting nova
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mustve watched naguras vid

ornate quest
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oh ok, if im in the middle of doing aoe opener, when I have enough AP to starfall, do I want to use it mid opener? and pretty much just continue on from there

jade flume
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What is your aoe opener, just dotting the mobs?

pseudo merlin
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no such thing as openers in aoe

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as EC you SF unless your next GCD is CA

jade flume
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Because i wouldnt starfall unless i was already fully capped on ap, and even then i wouldnt starfall if i had only like 2-3 more dot gcds tbh

pallid bay
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huh

scenic mist
pallid bay
pseudo merlin
jade flume
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Oi doesnt even know the aoe rotation gg

pseudo merlin
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exactly as written

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OI is OBR

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he d oesnt know

pallid bay
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idk pop off king

pseudo merlin
lucid olive
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Love abbreviations

pseudo merlin
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SUF not SF

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😠

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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nope

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SF
STF
SUF
STFL

lucid olive
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Sunfire

scenic mist
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y'eah well

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sunfire kek

pseudo merlin
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you will never change my mind

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I came up with these abbreviations like 5 years ago

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They're sticking

lucid olive
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Starfoulah

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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STFL is stellar flare

pallid bay
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that sentence is missing context to actually make sense

pseudo merlin
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not starfoul'allah

jade flume
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What about STFU?

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Ive seen that one before

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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STFU is stellar fury

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new talent in edge of midnight

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or whatever its called

jade flume
pallid bay
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its an aoe rotation, if im pressing CA next and im overcapping AP, there's nothing wrong with pressing starfall first

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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🙌

lucid olive
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No don't

pseudo merlin
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He's the propaganda officer in chief

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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How dare you speak back to a 3.3k rio main

scenic mist
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go time your 14s chief

pseudo merlin
pallid bay
pseudo merlin
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LMAO

scenic mist
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slacker

pseudo merlin
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Maybe you should try OBR, you might time some real keys kid

scenic mist
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go delving

pseudo merlin
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🫵

pallid bay
pseudo merlin
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Where's your belt buddy

scenic mist
scenic mist
maiden pasture
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i love dsunes rio pages

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he always gets asked to join a random push key

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and then it ends up looking like this

pallid bay
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priory hardcapped +10..

jade flume
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Maybe hes just goated in these 2 keys

pseudo merlin
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lmao

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wait a minute

jade flume
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Thats a cap for surviving priory as bamkin

maiden pasture
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last season aswell

pseudo merlin
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tanksune?

pallid bay
jade flume
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Man im almost 3.4k raio PogCat

pseudo merlin
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insane

jade flume
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I hope title is like 3.5

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Or im doomed

pseudo merlin
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wait why is half your page 12s

quiet drift
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Something there

pseudo merlin
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??????

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fuck TOP tbh

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I feel you

jade flume
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Man we almost timed 18 top first try

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Tankerman died and we wiped at 1%

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But i just join my homies when im free and they need a deeps so i go from 10s to like 17s

royal zenith
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I'm a few points off of 3k...

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but I cba...

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even though there's a mount......

jade flume
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I just want title

pseudo merlin
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do I just not tip ?

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this is a free pass right

jade flume
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I want to get title on disc priest and bamkin if possible lol

pseudo merlin
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I'm not falling for that guilt trip shit

jade flume
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Thats the plan at least

pseudo merlin
royal zenith
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it's like one (1) 12

pseudo merlin
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9 out of 10 of the packages I order come with the box soaked in some disgusting overly perfumed soapy substance

maiden pasture
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that was me sorry

pseudo merlin
fervent merlin
lucid olive
scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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I feel like things just fall apart at 15

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idk why, 14s are an absolute breeze

scenic mist
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extrapolation gives 3857 by the end of july

royal zenith
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especially rn

lucid olive
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idk I met some real suspicious people in 14s

royal zenith
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Im season 3 pilled, waiting for poe2

pseudo merlin
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maybe I got lucky

royal zenith
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IMAGINE logging into M+

lucid olive
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I'd like to push, but I don't have a team and pugging is dreadful

pseudo merlin
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I ran all my 14s in a row without single fail other than brew

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people cant do brew

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I had like 14 everything and then 10 brew

lucid olive
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but it's hard to find a team unless you push up the ladder

pseudo merlin
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:kek

fervent merlin
pseudo merlin
lucid olive
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Was asked in season 1 by like 3 different teams but they wanted me to play aug

pseudo merlin
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Finding a team that was actually competent was impossible, it felt like trying to join a HOF raiding guild with only ever having HC raid exp

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They just do not want to give you a chance even in 1 key

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And settling for people who do not match your skill level was the same as pugging

lucid olive
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Yee, WoW is like a social ladder in that way

jade flume
royal zenith
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take that back

pseudo merlin
cloud plover
royal zenith
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man who proc'd puppy

lucid olive
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I've just been playing Minecraft and hit dummies on PTR for the past 2 weeks..

royal zenith
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this day is already gone to shit

cloud plover
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proc dn

royal zenith
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literally

maiden pasture
lucid olive
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they all either have full teams or aren't minigamers

pseudo merlin
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^

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you wanna be part of guilds M+ team you better have founded the guild or something lmao

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best you can hope for is some early season farm keys when one person is taking a shower

cloud plover
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@royal zenith how u doing today

royal zenith
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It's too warm

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and I have to work

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so I'd say

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7 out of 10

pseudo merlin
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damn 3 days of 30+

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Roffa going hard

scenic mist
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nice units

pseudo merlin
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sign up

royal zenith
pseudo merlin
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@lucid olive wanna join my m+ push team

royal zenith
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can't cool down is the issue

pseudo merlin
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yeah

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temps above 25c and humidity above 80 dont work

lucid olive
pseudo merlin
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Damn I can't compete with that

scenic mist
royal zenith
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so the theory is that it's not necessarily humidity

lucid olive
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wanna come make a 260k SU steam engine with me?

royal zenith
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but the fact we have so much pavement, houses build to hold heat, etc.

pseudo merlin
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Oh that too yeah

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densily packed cities will hold heat

royal zenith
pseudo merlin
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but for sure the humidity makes it all worse

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I see it here too

royal zenith
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that's a fact

pseudo merlin
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When its like 36

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in small streets you'll see temp readers saying 45

lucid olive
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its 15 degrees and rain here

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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i think we're on 35 atm

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and like 30% humidity

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Last rain was in may

royal zenith
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160mil

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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Don't use expensive words

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Wet air makes it hard for skin to go cold with air

scenic mist
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it's not the cold air factor

pseudo merlin
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?

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Read it again frenchie

lofty depot
scenic mist
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swet is used to cover your skin with water, then your excess heat can vaporise this water into gaz

pseudo merlin
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`?

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That's literally what I'm saying

scenic mist
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cant vaporise if air already saturated with water

pseudo merlin
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Who's talking about cold air

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Brother

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That's literally what I said

pallid bay
scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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?

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I never editted it

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what

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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air cant make skin go cold if air is wet

lofty depot
pseudo merlin
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I dont read french

scenic mist
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if 100% wet air is 10 degrees and your skin is 40 degrees, you lose heat through conduction

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vaporising sweat is just a way to go faster and better

pseudo merlin
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youre talking about cold air again

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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why do you keep talking about cold air

scenic mist
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i beg read yourself ravec

spice roost
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you guys find the dumbest shit to argue over

scenic mist
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air CAN make skin go cold if air is wet, as long as air is cold

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duh

scenic mist
royal zenith
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what a discussion

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typical end of tier

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!!

scenic mist
jade flume
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Because it will turn into ice...

scenic mist
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like 5 degrees

royal zenith
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no clue, haven't logged into PTR

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I should though

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to even understand what the dryad looks like

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can we transmog them??

scenic mist
lofty depot
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We're a pet class

royal zenith
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that sounds less cool than you think it does

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you should become friends with arctic

pallid bay
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it would be funny if u have to spawn dryad in melee so her surges hit before she disappears

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given that the surges contributes to the pool at some point

cloud plover
scenic mist
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ducks baseline 10/10 fellow

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type shit

royal zenith
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but still care enough

lofty depot
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Disgusting

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Start at 30y triple wrath opener run in surely

scenic mist
lofty depot
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Nop

scenic mist
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so just wait for both CA charges to be back and roll again like on pull ?

lofty depot
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Ur asking robot questions

quiet drift
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Surely this double ca gets removed

lofty depot
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And w.e. the cook is now. It's gonna be changed

quiet drift
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She casts the surges herself

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🙏

royal zenith
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based on feely* crafting

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and absolutely nothing

jade flume
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Good enough for me

pallid bay
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she has enough haste from you that her surges hit before she disappears

lofty depot
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O

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Until she's casting the last surge and it doesn't go off 😦

scenic mist
royal zenith
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do you truly 'cast' a surge though

lofty depot
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She does

pallid bay
scenic mist
royal zenith
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I'd say it's conjuring..

scenic mist
pallid bay
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is how u would play

royal zenith
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why would you play double charge CA

lofty depot
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Foe 2nd ca aswell?

royal zenith
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if you chain them

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man I should not ask this and just login, see when what procs

lofty depot
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Cuz otherwise the dryad does no dam

pallid bay
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so more CA = more dryad

obsidian jetty
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CA gives the dryad (should be treants it's a fuckin keeper set)

royal zenith
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yeah I figured it's probably linked to popping CA

scenic mist
royal zenith
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as they did practically the same with mushrooms

lofty depot
obsidian jetty
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so you use baby dryad to buff 2nd dryad with more multipliers in 2nd CA

royal zenith
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that's actually kinda interesting

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if you get rid of the degeneracy

obsidian jetty
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no idea if it will play out as the best way. If they don't nerf the duration you will instead just CA every 30-45 seconds and starfall between CAs so you don't spend the buff...

cunning bronze
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is it good enough to sim 1t5min for M+? or do we 5t5min?

lofty depot
pallid bay
royal zenith
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so you do tend to overlap/pop it earlier to cause of differences in duration?

royal zenith
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when WA??

obsidian jetty
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it's just venth ramp

pallid bay
obsidian jetty
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try to line everything with the 2 surges at end of 2nd CA and gg

pallid bay
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you can play the other talent for more AP

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so more damage in that window

royal zenith
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okay but

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don't get me excited now

scenic mist
lofty depot
royal zenith
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Conv OMEGALUL ke

pallid bay
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convoke is probably on first CA

royal zenith
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is that cause it's capped at buffing 2 only?

obsidian jetty
royal zenith
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or that's all you can fit

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check

lofty depot
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It only buffs 2

scenic mist
obsidian jetty
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you pool up dmg over 10sec during dryad, and 5% of that dmg is added to 2 surges

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after the dryad dips

royal zenith
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and the favor buff stacks?

pallid bay
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you get 2 stacks, you cant stack it further

obsidian jetty
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nah, but you can use the previous one, during dryad

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so 5% of the previous is added to next

pallid bay
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its just a feedback loop when using double CA

royal zenith
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so the reason you want to pop both is alligning with pot/trinket/lust

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all within that window

obsidian jetty
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yea, just to stack CDs, the buff during rn is 45 seconds

royal zenith
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check

obsidian jetty
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I imagine that get's nerfed

pallid bay
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pool A gets filled -> CA 2 is used -> pool B is filled with surges from pool A -> dryad disappears and you have 2x surges that are filled with damage from pool A buff and pool B

scenic mist
obsidian jetty
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so this would be plan B

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is stacking it closer

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rather than stalling for tress to come back up at 30/45s

royal zenith
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alright I understand the concept

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ty

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I don't need to login anymore

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(until it gets nerfed and the order changes again)

pallid bay
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at the end of it all its just about doing as much damage as possible while the dryad is up

royal zenith
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yeh

pallid bay
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the best way to do that is to use the increased damage from one dryad in the next dryad

royal zenith
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any double on-use shit or too tight of a window

scenic mist
pallid bay
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there might be..

royal zenith
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pre-pop trinket 1

obsidian jetty
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the 30sec trinket puts shit on 20 CD atm

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so it does overlap

pallid bay
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gg

obsidian jetty
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prly will be fixed

pallid bay
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this guy giving out the goods for free

obsidian jetty
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but double on use would be good yes because this is a 24-26sec window of dmg

obsidian jetty
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so you could use 20s int trinket at start, then mastery trinket at the end

royal zenith
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People can't handle this anyway

obsidian jetty
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to buff the 2 giga surges at the end

royal zenith
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they will read it and forget

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and just play EC OBR

quiet drift
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...

royal zenith
lucid olive
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will be using ramp tracker weakaura

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venthyr coming back

pallid bay
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need a pool tracker..

royal zenith
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if any WA

lofty depot
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Jundies WA big pog

royal zenith
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release it mid-tier

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with a password you need to attain through nepotism

obsidian jetty
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ppl see 44k int and it's instantly on their character

scenic mist
royal zenith
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I need your buff tracking btw @obsidian jetty

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want to go minimal

obsidian jetty
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no one has ever said that

royal zenith
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I know

lucid olive
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you calling Recruitie's UI minimal?

obsidian jetty
royal zenith
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I'm referring to something very specific

pallid bay
royal zenith
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definitely not a minimal ui

quiet drift
royal zenith
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or I just copy paste cotti's

lucid olive
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man just rips buff trackers from other packs and dice rolls where he puts it on the screen

scenic mist
royal zenith
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okay that's it, I need to fix it myself

obsidian jetty
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was seeing .1s dryad duration into bearform

pallid bay
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stop..

obsidian jetty
quiet drift
royal zenith
lofty depot
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There u go

royal zenith
obsidian jetty
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or boat and such

royal zenith
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nah left of the char

obsidian jetty
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oh

royal zenith
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got some icons with buffs rolling

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but Ill probably fix something myself so I can pick and choose

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but I'm lzy

obsidian jetty
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I find that stuff under my char/right of my char, I just straight ignore and never look at

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prly just blind in right eye more

royal zenith
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nah I have the same

obsidian jetty
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so I just put everything on left instead glorp

royal zenith
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have the timers there, but hardly ever look there anymore

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cause don't need to call out anything

open hound
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Hi, any Platerprofile you guys can recommend i often struggle with dotting everything when the Nameplates stack too much

pseudo merlin
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jundies

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think it's linked in the compendium

spice roost
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what would blizz need to do to fix the degenerate stuff happening with tierset

quiet drift
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Fix buff duration and or dont let Dryads favour be carried over to another Dryad

spice roost
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i imagine they do the easier to fix way and just shorten duration then

quiet drift
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Well it still allows for shit like chaining CAs

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Which I assume they dont want

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Its the "Keeper of the grove" tier set

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and we are ignoring Trees in favour of spamming CA

spice roost
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@quiet driftis boomie even strong without the current degen stuff

quiet drift
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shrugeg Seems fine

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PTR week 1

spice roost
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yaya

quiet drift
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Half the specs are bugged or overtuned

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Dryad is also just bugged out of its mind

spice roost
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half are undertuned aswell

quiet drift
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So even the "standard" playstyle

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does less damage that intended

pseudo merlin
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You can't average out the tuning of every spec and then therefore determine that it will go live in a similarly balanced state

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I'm leaning towards these shenanigans being fixed super late and spec being overnerfed because of it

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And then being fixed 2 months into season

royal zenith
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I think

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we're all clueless

pseudo merlin
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real

scenic mist
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clueless thinking

royal zenith
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but yeah they will just focus weird interactions first

quiet drift
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+1

royal zenith
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tuning last week or 2

quiet drift
scenic mist
royal zenith
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also don't think it's all that weird what's happening

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just maybe oversight

quiet drift
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The angle is just have fun while its just stupid, report everything you think is unintended

royal zenith
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they are lucky to have PTR

scenic mist
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ptr will be ptr

quiet drift
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and come back a week before release

royal zenith
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unfortunate for us players though

quiet drift
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Blizz is too poor to afford an QA department

scenic mist
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cause US aactual beta testers of retail

royal zenith
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them/us

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it's more fun if you go live with weird shit happening

quiet drift
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Ye it was so fun

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When Ravenous Frenzyu

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just didnt work

royal zenith
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even though the community will go full hate on bamkin

quiet drift
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in 9.2

royal zenith
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even more than usual

royal zenith
quiet drift
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8 stack ramp

lofty depot
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It's more fun when they implement something that has 100 bugs that like only 75% of them will be fixed

quiet drift
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Zaaamn

lofty depot
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Then u go live with the shit thru rwf, then get gutted half way thru the tier

royal zenith
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it's however you want to look at it right

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half full or half empty

lofty depot
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If they remove whirling and bring IFE, we wouldn't have this problem 🙂

royal zenith
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found the pessimists

lucid olive
obsidian jetty
royal zenith
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to be fair, I just like seeing the world burn

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so maybe that's on me

obsidian jetty
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also make dryad surges not get buffed by 4p as well

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if we're lucky 2 of those things will happen

lucid olive
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honestly

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tune up the dmg pool from 5% to like 8% or 10%

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and then make the dryad last 7 seconds instead

quiet drift
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Just make her be the duration of CA/Incarn and cast the surges herself

lucid olive
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make you able to ramp it up and spend it inside the 12 second CA window without having to stand in melee

pallid bay
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Why would u stand in melee

lofty depot
pallid bay
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I guess for your spells it could matter

lucid olive
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the 4pc damage is calculated on hit no

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So if you'd want to spend it inside CA at the 2 seconds after the dryad disappears you should probably be in melee

lofty depot
royal zenith
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does the EC one work the same, technically?

obsidian jetty
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@lucid olive if you mean the surges, surge is on cast. Buff is consumed on hit

royal zenith
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just buffs starfires?

lofty depot
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In laymen's terms, sure

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Procs surges from ur starfires

royal zenith
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ah splashy

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can't wait for people calling it 'funnel damage' for a whole tier

lofty depot
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Lol

obsidian jetty
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I've been standing in melee because I assume the pool gets added on hit. But I havn't tested if you cast a surge before dryad ends, and it hits after dryad ends, if it counts towards pool

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I suspect not though

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so I've just been in melee

toxic scarab
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is there a ptr tldr in the pins somewhere? 🙂

toxic scarab
lucid olive
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but nothing more than that

toxic scarab
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I saw that the tierset is getting nerfed 100%

lucid olive
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it is way too early to write up a tldr for anything other than "please log in and test"

lofty depot
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It's week 2 of ptr, shits gonna change 10 times, why tldr it

toxic scarab
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I guess just so u can follow the progress of updates in a relevant discord

quiet drift
lofty depot
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U can follow the progress of ur class on wowhead or bluetracker

royal zenith
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imo you can always do a write-up gamz

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every week

lucid olive
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stick around here you'll see it discussed plenty as it gets changed

royal zenith
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but with disclaimers obv

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people also just like to follow what's happening with the spec

lucid olive
toxic scarab
royal zenith
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yeah I wouldn't

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it's a lot of work

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passion project etc. etc.

lofty depot
lucid olive
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I'm halfway through a forum post though...

pseudo merlin
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Holy

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Forum posts always go hard

lofty depot
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Copy's old post, Adds 5 more things they want but are never gonna get. Talks about new tier degeneracy, submits

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"going hard"

lucid olive
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type shit

royal zenith
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if you're copying old posts

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maybe you should devalue your own subjective opinion

lofty depot
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Tells Gary to read to make sure a highly regarded individual can read it

royal zenith
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and keep it objective

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thoughts??

pseudo merlin
royal zenith
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oh

pseudo merlin
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emphasize it

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IT wouldn't be your opinion if it wasn't objectively correct

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EVeryone else is objectively wrong

royal zenith
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👉 🚪

pseudo merlin
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🙅‍♂️

cloud plover
pseudo merlin
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can't imagine, imagining is thinking

royal zenith
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thinking about imagining

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decided to keep it real

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unfortunate

pseudo merlin
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I'm about to push this +8 priory, any takers?

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Deux?

royal zenith
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hell no

pseudo merlin
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your loss

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priory pugs go hard

royal zenith
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yeah...

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something like that....

pseudo merlin
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honestly you probably wouldnt have made the cut anyway

royal zenith
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I wouldn't pick a random bamkin either

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hit or miss, usually a miss

pseudo merlin
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almost always miss yeah

scenic mist
royal zenith
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you were right

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if that's what funnel is

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any prio damage these days gets classified as funnel

scenic mist
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And then have a big surge

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That’s funnel right

royal zenith
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not really

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would you say ret paladin has funnel damage

scenic mist
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Doing more dmg to main target when there are other targets around

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That’s funnel isn’t it ?

lofty depot
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No

royal zenith
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no that's prio damage

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lol

scenic mist
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No prio is doing more dmg to 1 target in a pack

royal zenith
#

you are by definition wrong

lofty depot
#

That's literally what u said

scenic mist
#

to be more clear

royal zenith
#

it's about increasing your dps to that single target because of the mobs surrounding it

jade flume
scenic mist
#

like main target is alone, i do 1m dps to it
main target + 5targets around, i can do 1.3 dps tto main target, that's funnel
main target + 5 targets around, i do 500k dps on each target but 900k on main target, that's prio

royal zenith
#

this shit with the dryad is closer to ignite

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than funnel

scenic mist
#

cause splash is w/e

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but filling the pool of the dryad

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is a funnelable mechanic

royal zenith
round field
#

Is ashi talking shit out of his ass again...

royal zenith
#

crazy understanding of wow

lofty depot
#

Type shit

round field
#

Every day i come hes hes yapping misinfo...

pallid bay
#

its funnel

scenic mist
pallid bay
#

you're funneling damage into the pool that is then concentrated on a single target

royal zenith
#

the issue is that you wanted to start a discussion about it

round field
#

Funnel is druid tier

jade flume
#

What if i want to funnel all targets

royal zenith
#

without giving all the details BigSmile

scenic mist
obsidian jetty
round field
#

Prio would be frost dk reapers mark

royal zenith
#

you only specified the specific scenario after stating random shit

#

that's one way to 'win' a discussion

round field
#

Arcane mage is funnel

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And their funnel splashes aswell

scenic mist
#

yeah yeah, just said tierset gave us funnel, not my fault if you cant see whole pic

royal zenith
jade flume
#

Anyone pushing some 20s today and need a bamkin prodigy(trust)

royal zenith
#

bro is focused on wanting to insult

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love to see it

scenic mist
#

no insult here

lofty depot
royal zenith
#

wanting to, read the words

jade flume
#

Gg...

jade flume
pallid bay
#

technically starfire funnels more resources that can be used on surge on prio target

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prio funnel..

scenic mist
royal zenith
#

you literally just said "use starfall to fill your pool"

scenic mist
#

it is ok to admit when you get something wrong deux yk

royal zenith
#

could've also just said starsurge and the comment would not have changed

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or outcome

scenic mist
lofty depot
#

Well that part is the funnel part

scenic mist
#

that's the key "funnel" part

royal zenith
#

you literally did not mention anything about "multiple targets"

lofty depot
#

The statement after about doing damage, more damage to 1 target in a pack of 5 is prio

royal zenith
#

only after

royal zenith
#

but if you want to be told you're right, that's fine

#

you're right

scenic mist
#

this bad faith is out of this world
must come from karesh

royal zenith
#

don't think it's bad faith

#

I think you need to be specific when making an argument

lofty depot
#

Deux is an ethereal?

#

His name is really De'ux

scenic mist
royal zenith
#

Entropy De'ux

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also disagree with Oi that it's funnel

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but he has more credit :3

scenic mist
#

quite clear right ?

royal zenith
#

man

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you're tiresome

#

LMAO

orchid ember
#

What a truly fantastic convo

scenic mist
#

yeah yeah you wont admit

#

nw i give up

royal zenith
#

I told you you were right

sudden flame
#

average boomkin convo

round field
royal zenith
#

I said exactly what you wanted to hear

#

is it not enough

scenic mist
#

keep going

royal zenith
#

anyway I'm bored

lofty depot
pseudo merlin
royal zenith
#

I think the vibe in here is more important

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then some random wanting to be right

#

no offense

pseudo merlin
royal zenith
scenic mist
lofty depot
pseudo merlin
#

Not wrong

scenic mist
lofty depot
#

He likes the vibe, then some random came in and ruined it

pseudo merlin
royal zenith
#

:3

lofty depot
#

Needs a comma tho

pseudo merlin
#

That's alright, we don't use those on the internet

eager raft
lofty depot
#

Deux good story teller

eager raft
#

🫵 😂

royal zenith
#

are you not entertained

lofty depot
#

I am currently entertained

royal zenith
#

usually I do this with Gilly or Respectable

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but they are not as serious

pseudo merlin
#

huh

eager raft
#

rip gilly miss that guy

pseudo merlin
lofty depot
#

Respectable never serious, unless he's getting bodied by 2 under geared druid. Then he's super serious

pseudo merlin
#

what are you going to coach

#

press arcane shot

#

now press aimed shot

#

now press arcane shot

lofty depot
#

Press the ravage button or w.e.

pseudo merlin
#

I can't believe I got gaslit into believing ret was the easiest spec in the game

#

or bm

#

it has to be MM surely

lofty depot
#

Is BM, and it's not even close

pseudo merlin
#

Nah

#

BM has cd reduction and some rng on barbed and that pet skill

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so you need to like react

#

MM is legit super predictable and braindead

lofty depot
#

Press barbed on CD, big react

pseudo merlin
#

you have moments with like constantly barbed and kill command coming back

lofty depot
#

Yea

pseudo merlin
#

yes

lofty depot
#

Press the button

pseudo merlin
#

so its harder than mm

#

which doesnt have that

#

theyre both easy as fuck, only one has an element of rng

royal zenith
#

would you say aimed shot is funnel damage ravec?

pseudo merlin
#

its like butter is harder than cheese

lofty depot
#

U could put you finger in-between 1/2 and do completely fine damage

pseudo merlin
#

unless youre french

#

youre arguing whether or not its hard

#

that's not the conversation I'm having buddy

jovial hare
#

Damn Black arrow not being rng

#

Ravec back at it again

royal zenith
#

ravec versus streeter97?!

#

go go

royal zenith
#

also epic name

pseudo merlin
#

I just saw ignored messages show up

royal zenith
#

lame

pseudo merlin
jovial hare
#

Lmao

#

What a baby

lofty depot
#

Ravec more like little bitch

pseudo merlin
jovial hare
#

I had one conversation he got super tilted cause someone disagreed

#

Crazy

royal zenith
#

Ill disagree for you

#

dw

pseudo merlin
#

like ret is easy because even if you're a complete idiot you can do decent

#

It's not like it's objectively easier than X or Y

#

It's just that when you do everything wrong, you still do numebrs

royal zenith
#

what is ret decending into?

jovial hare
#

He has constant bad takes lol probably has no first hand experience with either spec

pseudo merlin
#

But perfecting ret still requires some actual gameplay

lofty depot
royal zenith
#

:)

pseudo merlin
#

Only the difference between 50th percentile and 99th percentile is like

jovial hare
#

He just spouts off whatever goes into his head

pseudo merlin
#

5% more brainmatter

royal zenith
#

I mean Ravec just yaps

#

don't take it TOO serious

#

it's also way different on text versus voice

#

out of personal experience can confirm

pseudo merlin
#

:3

lofty depot
pseudo merlin
#

did you just short percentile to % tile

royal zenith
#

that's a good one arctic

lofty depot
#

Type shit

pseudo merlin
#

I like it

#

That's a vibe

pseudo merlin
#

probably because it has a lot of moments of gcd locked

lofty depot
#

Idk I was talking about hunter

pseudo merlin
#

ah

lofty depot
#

Who the fuck plays ret

pseudo merlin
#

yeah probably

jade flume
#

Oh shit obr means one batton rotation

pseudo merlin
#

what did you think it meant

jade flume
#

I thought u were misspelling obs all this time

pseudo merlin
#

LMAO

jade flume
#

It made no sense but it was ravec so i didnt see a problem with it

jovial hare
pseudo merlin
#

Starting new guild <OBR gaming>

royal zenith
#

welcome to the now looq!!!

pseudo merlin
#

or an org even

jovial hare
#

Blocks whoever he can't bully into submission with his garbage takes

jade flume
#

I still havent used the obr thing yet

royal zenith
#

well you do seem a tad too invested

jade flume
#

But i wont since it just seems pointless

pseudo merlin
#

I did for like 7 seconds to see if it would sit there casting convoke outside of CA

#

Then I immediately stopped

royal zenith
#

he do be BALD

#

remember that

pseudo merlin
#

This is a CHOICE

jade flume
#

Idk i just enjoy playing the game

#

Why would i want a button to do it for me

#

Might aswell just watch krona stream or sth

pseudo merlin
#

Apparently there are genuinely people who like it

#

Idk

#

The combat rotation is the majority of the fun of the game for me

lofty depot
obsidian jetty
#

I thought I'd use it on new toons, but then I leveled a new toon the other day and just said "fuck it i'll just learn instead"

lofty depot
#

Or idlemmo

jade flume
#

I play cookie clicker...

pseudo merlin
#

"Ill use it on my new char so I dont int keys"

obsidian jetty
#

I cannot relate to the OBR gamers idk

pseudo merlin
#

Then I go in a key and everyone is inting, I have no idea what I'm doing, and I'm still winning

lofty depot
royal zenith
#

OBR is very much just a moment in time

jade flume
#

It legit takes very little effort to learn a new spec on a basic level tbh

pseudo merlin
#

Dsune is a huge OBR enjoyer

lofty depot
#

Recruitie ain't built for obr

royal zenith
#

at least some people get to make videos because of it

jade flume
#

Almost all dps specs are very simple

royal zenith
#

(tettles OBR hater)

jade flume
#

I actually just watched that video lol

obsidian jetty
#

but at that point it doesn't feel like I'm even playing the game

#

would rather just play another game

pseudo merlin
#

In the time it takes to level a toon from 70 to 80 in timewalking dungeons you've learned the spec

#

Wht's the point of the OBR

jade flume
#

Tbh i wouldnt play an alt if my intention wasnt gearing it and actually playing it with a goal in mind

#

Either m+ or raid

lofty depot
#

Goal for my last alt was more enchanting gold 🙂

obsidian jetty
#

I like to keep my alts close incase a spec rework looks fun

jade flume
#

And for either of these wouldnt make sense to just stay mediocre

#

Would rather learn it and be good

#

But i also dont play a lot of alts atm

#

Like 2-3 chars

eager raft
royal zenith
#

more curious in actualy data, what the % of players will be that actually uses it

pseudo merlin
#

I am too

royal zenith
#

so I can laugh at those that were scared of The Button...

pseudo merlin
#

I'm praying that everyone who joins my keys uses it

#

But I feel like they're not

lofty depot
#

Gonna make people failing mechanics use it, until they stop failing mechanics

eager raft
#

Run LFR 50 times and log each time

#

Check logs for delays in casts

#

Record results and get back to us

pseudo merlin
#

speaking of lfr

obsidian jetty
#

can't wait for some guild to force OBR and they get top 100 world would be sick tbh

pseudo merlin
#

time to run it on all my chars to ninja transmog loot from noobs

royal zenith
pseudo merlin
eager raft
#

Understandable

pseudo merlin
#

If I look at the amount of world ranks we lost on mugzee and sprocket

#

Due to nothing but mechanical trolling

#

OBR would've shaved off 100 ranks atleast

lofty depot
pseudo merlin
#

maybe 200

jade flume
#

How many extra deaths would u have from people falling asleep at the wheel tho

#

Something to take into consideration

lofty depot
#

Fall asleep on the bench

pseudo merlin
#

Or like

#

People taking early breaks mid prog because their fingers no longer work

lofty depot
#

Vacation during prog?

obsidian jetty
#

just need ahk

pseudo merlin
#

OBR spamming is fucking painful

#

Unless you go out of your way to bind it to every key

#

and then play the piano

obsidian jetty
#

can make a mouse macro to just spam a keystroke as well

lofty depot
#

TOS 👀

pseudo merlin
#

is it?

obsidian jetty
#

not ToS if you're pressing the button

pseudo merlin
#

You mean the same way you play ARPGs right

lofty depot
#

Scripting 👀

pseudo merlin
#

Scroll wheel movement is goated

lofty depot
#

Scroll wheel jump >

pseudo merlin
#

excuse me?

lofty depot
#

Hi

pseudo merlin
#

That's a bit right

lofty depot
#

Ever play valo?

#

Or cs?

pseudo merlin
#

no

lofty depot
#

Tragic

pseudo merlin
#

I mean I played CS

#

in like

#

2001?

#

does that count

lofty depot
#

If u knew how to bunny hop, sure

pseudo merlin
#

i dont remember

lofty depot
#

Clearly u didn't 🙂

pseudo merlin
#

probably not

obsidian jetty
#

probably not what

lofty depot
#

That looks like a ban frfr

pseudo merlin
#

probably not arctic

drifting nova
#

SuspiciousChicken can we turn the sun off

#

ty

pseudo merlin
#

?

#

You live in the UK

#

Didnt you guys invent that

drifting nova
#

EXACTLY

pseudo merlin
#

It's on like 3 days a year

drifting nova
#

it's had it's fun

#

pack it up

#

back to rain

lofty depot
#

Was gonna say, uk weather based

drifting nova
#

no fun allowed on these great isles

#

includes the sun

lofty depot
#

Can stay home and bingchill

pseudo merlin
#

not even 3k

#

lmao

#

just like @royal zenith

royal zenith
#

based meeres

hard mortar
#

hello everyone. I got Unreliable fight style when i sim. Which fight style should i choose if i wanna compare gears doing m+?

pseudo merlin
#

1t5m patchwerk or mdt

lofty depot
pseudo merlin
#

🤝

#

and follow the instructions there

royal zenith
#

I read his name the dutch style @pseudo merlin

#

got confused for a lil bit

pseudo merlin
#

Same

jade flume
#

Man on god ill never sim my char for m+

#

Sims arent real

pseudo merlin
#

so true

#

I just use stat priorities

royal zenith
#

well the sims are real

#

but our conclusions are not

pseudo merlin
#

mastery>haste>crit>vers?

#

I only stack mastery and haste

#

0 crit and 0 vers or my char is literally useless

jade flume
#

Sims are a dumbass

leaden birch
#

I just do what the sim tells me to do

obsidian jetty
pseudo merlin
#

Both FOE and NM baseline

#

thoughts?

drifting nova
#

speaking of, bring back hit

leaden birch
#

I mean, doesn't your stat prio change depending on your gear

drifting nova
#

no

#

in the same way your damage changes if you crit 10x vs 2x

leaden birch
#

so why does the sim have me go for vers now

drifting nova
#

idk, sim bad

leaden birch
pseudo merlin
#

That's why you shouldnt sim

drifting nova
#

sims were the downfall of wow

pseudo merlin
#

If you sim, every time you sim your stats change

#

Like that doesn't make any sense

drifting nova
#

sims by the very nature of being sims

#

wont even sim the same

#

with no changes

signal temple
drifting nova
#

cant believe reforging got canned

pseudo merlin
#

I think I finally narrowed down the problem with the new moonkin form

drifting nova
#

and we entered into the hellscape that world of simcraft

pseudo merlin
#

Its legs move too fast

drifting nova
#

new?

pseudo merlin
#

OG moonkin form legs move way slower while crossing the same distance

#

When they move so fast you look like a guy in a suit

#

they need to slow down the legs

drifting nova
#

taurens always look like they're underwater

pseudo merlin
#

take bigger steps

drifting nova
#

movement is sus

royal zenith
#

how is kekkers not banned yet

pseudo merlin
#

^

jovial hare
#

Same reasons Ravec isn't

#

It's good for the entertainment business

royal zenith
drifting nova
#

speaking of

#

wheres paper

pseudo merlin
#

Should I cancel my convoke to cast SS to avoid overcapping ASP/not wasting cosmos stacks? @drifting nova

drifting nova
#

fuck if I know I just taunted the boss entering bear form

pseudo merlin
#

@royal zenith holy he's even doing LFR now

drifting nova
#

and I dont take convoke on principle at this point

pseudo merlin
#

he beat me

#

you dont have any principles kekkers

drifting nova
#

wouldnt catch me playing kotg

pseudo merlin
#

?????

#

you dont like trees?

drifting nova
#

HELL NA

#

budget arse hunter pathing

#

is this 2005

#

god I cant wait for hero talents to not be expanded upon

jade flume
pseudo merlin
#

why does OBR convoke at 100 asp

leaden birch
#

cause it's smarter than u or anyone here

pseudo merlin
#

guess i got some learning to do

round field
pseudo merlin
#

really lma

#

I only used it on LFR rik for shits and giggles

#

I think it used trees, did SL and then voke

leaden birch
#

I have yet to pug that far into heroic

drifting nova
pseudo merlin
#

4/8 is super easily puggable

#

That's the funny bit

#

Man wants blasters but is stuck on a progression level below what non pro pugs have succesfully been doing for weeks

drifting nova
#

early mythic bosses should be harder

#

atleast it'd make looking for a guild slightly easier

#

instead of everyone having the puggable level

pseudo merlin
#

idk man stix was significantly difficult until they started giving us 2x as much power as initially during the season

#

10 more item levels and a belt

dry compass
#

Stix also copped about 12 nerfs since patch day

#

It's almost a completely different boss at this point

pseudo merlin
#

Yup