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lofty depot
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YEA WTF ABOUT IT

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its venthyr lite

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we outside with it

subtle sail
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its crazy cuz the little humps arent bad still that one is just insane

drifting nova
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big hump bad SuspiciousChicken

vital hound
nova ocean
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Little do u know all the other specs on raid testing are sandbagging and will suddenly do twice the damage once raid is live

pseudo merlin
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theyl slap on a 3% aura buff if that's the case

spare dune
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Any insight from anyone that prefers Boomie over Lock? Lock cast times are so slowwww

maiden pasture
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why is opener so big, i thought the whole point was like ramping until 2 mins?

lofty depot
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fire doesnt have cast time

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but if ur not in a world first guild u can play what u want. If u want to play boomkin cuz we cast wrath and its faster than inc or cb then go for it

cloud plover
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@round field ty for making boomkin look balanced on ptr

plush prairie
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I have heroic HoC + heroic jastor diamond, killed gallywix on myth as well as one armed, is there a clear option I should take for my last 3 tokens

lofty depot
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sim it prob

spare dune
vital hound
lofty depot
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i hadnt played it for 10 years

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is not hard

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also, theyre playing frostfire currently so, a few more casts than sunfury :/

digital berry
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"Complicated" means jack shit in wow tho

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most classes have very very basic rotations

desert imp
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hi guys, if vers buff comes top for me in ST, we still using haste buff for M+?

lofty depot
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sure

shut trench
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feels sad nerfing kotg ptr

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critting 80m on targets xD

dapper mirage
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Which is easier to play EC or KOTG?

frail sonnet
shut trench
drifting nova
rain hinge
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With Lunar Calling you still need to cast two wraths every 15 to put your self in lunar eclipse?

meager storm
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Ofc

rain hinge
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cool. appreicate it just reading into druid may give it a try lol

meager storm
cloud lion
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Imagine this new starsurge on rook last boss or mist 1st

ripe slate
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or the dimensius 200% vuln lol

lofty depot
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fractillus 200%

clear shoal
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what new starsurge

lofty depot
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dryad buff

meager storm
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they are gonna make the buff like 20s

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calling it

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idk why people were doing that on testing instead of doing actual testing omgBruh

lofty depot
lofty depot
meager storm
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Nuh uh always holding till u get 2 CAs to be able to do it

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Is sht

clear shoal
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new notes??

lofty depot
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its the tier set

clear shoal
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ohh haha

meager storm
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I wonder when will the fix the dryad casts doing 0 dmg unless u do the double ca tech

lofty depot
meager storm
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On the dh fight ec and kotg felt pretty close

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If u dont do the cheat

lofty depot
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yea i was looking at ur log, seemed fine

cloud lion
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With this they are making us 3 min class

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If u have to wait for double CA

meager storm
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0 chance they keep this imo

obsidian jetty
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Even if they nerf it to like 5-10sec duration, the playstyle could continue. For all we know it could be better to CA back to back even without treants on second CA.

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Could be just like venth with double on use, CA raw, into another CA with the buffed surges+tree voke etc and 2nd on use with the last 4sec of 2nd CA

true viper
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kotg tier getting taken out back

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its good but really awkward to use, especially with 12 second ca

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wants you to pool ap at the end of an eclipse and time 2 surges inside ca window

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even though you want it for starlord and boat

lofty depot
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the damage is more important than the those buffs

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those buffs dont matter when the those surges can be 200m damage

true viper
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thats the point

lofty depot
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ok... so its just a difference in priority to what u normally want to do

true viper
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the design is dogshit for what talents are being taken

finite cliff
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In previous seasons we had an AoE M+ build and more ST M+ build, that still a thing or?

lofty depot
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st m+ build....

finite cliff
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Yes it was usually dropping the extra starfall damage talent (that doesnt exist anymore) for goldrimm

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or a point in boat I think

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either of those

lofty depot
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ill assume u mean when fort and tyran werent joined

finite cliff
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Yeah that.

true viper
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they should change it to; dryad lasts for the most recent buff of CA, but it stores 2-3% of what damage was done

lofty depot
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so no, its not a thing

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maybe the difference in hero talents... and or playing convoke in M+ in lower keys maybe

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but no we just have m+ builds generally

lofty depot
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so no stop

finite cliff
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Sad.

oak horizon
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How we looking in 11.2 chickens

lofty depot
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can u be more specific

oak horizon
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M+ dmg wise

obsidian jetty
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too early

lofty depot
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its week 2 of ptr with 6 more weeks to go

oak horizon
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How we looking for week 2 ptr

lofty depot
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good

oak horizon
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Hell yeah

obsidian jetty
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being good on week 2 is typically a bad thing

oak horizon
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Cya in week 3

obsidian jetty
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šŸ“‰

lofty depot
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what class did u switch to for 2 years

meager storm
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man imagine pulsar with this set

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holy

clear shoal
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Hey sparkle chickens, should I hug stix so my starfall doesnt agro evrytime or is my raid supossed to be killing them

lofty depot
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well ur ball rollers should be rolling over the hyenas but sometimes peopel dumb

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better to stand on the wall or on tank

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being out in narnia will obviously get u aggro

obsidian jetty
obsidian jetty
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you can typhoon them and/or ursol them off you, but in general your job is to get the bombs off their trash pile

calm ibex
nova ocean
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Wats funny is our ec tier set is actually pretty strong too but the Bs we are doing with kotg is overshadowing it so blizzard might overlook it while they tune kotg

lofty depot
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dak played ec on soul hunters

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so its possible to use both on said fight prob

nova ocean
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Ya but I'm saying I don't think ec tier is gonna get nerfed though while kotg will for sure

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Like kotg is probably gonna be obliterated next build

lofty depot
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yae we do good damage outside of the cringe shit some people were doing so

nova ocean
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It's funny though they haven't touched our class but we are doing good damage solely because the tier set designer cooked

merry crow
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They probably intended it to be used at the end of a single CA

obsidian jetty
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Why's that matter? It's still very strong when used as "intended"

merry crow
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Yeah it does. I have a feeling they'll just reduce the buff duration

lofty depot
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revolutionary take

merry crow
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I havent read this discord since ptr dropped

digital berry
vital hound
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would be

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they remove dryad's surge silliness

obsidian jetty
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They will nerf it to 1%, cap the dmg, and reduce the duration

vital hound
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cap the damage

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is dogwater

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wth

obsidian jetty
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I don't make the rules

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is what it is

vital hound
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idk sometimes you do

lofty depot
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think they could lower the damage a bit and lower the duration to 20 or 25 and be fine

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capping the damage even more seems cringe

digital berry
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I feel like even just lowering the duration would be enough to make us strong but not broken

obsidian jetty
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On the 3tar boss, surge was 29% of my dmg playing it the "intended" way

vital hound
obsidian jetty
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when have we ever had a tier set doing more than like 15% of our dmg

digital berry
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Huh

obsidian jetty
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we're lucky to get 10%

vital hound
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yea its usually

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8-12%

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me thinks

lofty depot
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was s1 df 12?

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tbf i dont have the sheets so cba

digital berry
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Well considering we were behind in st by a decent margin they could give us a stronger tier set to compensate ThumbsUp

obsidian jetty
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the only saving grace would be if this is the final season of the xpac, with no intention on a fated season. Then maybe they just leave OP things in for fun

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but I will believe it when I see it. That shit is getting taken out back

lofty depot
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this just means in midnight we can get cleave surge talents surely

obsidian jetty
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I'm guessing somewhere around 50-70% nerf on it

digital berry
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This is depressing to see

lofty depot
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or changing of dreamsurge to dryad shit

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yeayeyayeyaye

digital berry
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Being that much below Aug just doesn’t sit right with me

lofty depot
digital berry
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Can we like not be at the bottom fourth for once tho

lofty depot
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no

digital berry
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Too good in m+ to be relevant in raid

obsidian jetty
lofty depot
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semantics

vital hound
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old data gone

lofty depot
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ye

digital berry
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Surely there’s some nerd out there with a 5 tb storage device full of old wow sheets

vital hound
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for it to be left as is

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hopefully they just cut the guys legs off or something

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not full shotgun

digital berry
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They do like to take classes out back instead of tuning them gently

neon whale
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is it common for the 2nd half of keys to just have HoC line up with every incarn? so then you would just send BiS with a FoE?

vital hound
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no

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mayb in theory if you're super planned

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but idk no

neon whale
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hmm

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like i kinda noticed it on Cinderbrew last boss

vital hound
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but send bis on vibes yes

neon whale
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i couldn't send BiS with incarn because it just lined up with HoC by then

vital hound
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gg

digital berry
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I mean unless there’s a ton of downtime you’re most likely not gonna pair bis with incarn outside of the second charge

cloud plover
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good morning iggy

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welcome back

round field
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Keep urself safe

calm ibex
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DAMN

dense gust
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is icyveins right? my suspicious drink and amplifier on heroic is pre much equivalent to moxie/house if theyre just heroic 671? kinda pointless to get em then, compared to jastor ig

calm ibex
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You should just sim

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Just saw what you were looking at. You were looking at data from bloodmallet which is notoriously not reliable for boomy

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Especially in the way it sims trinkets

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You should just sim, though house and jug will likely come out on top

shut trench
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Crashing star & DOFD aint working ptr pog

obsidian jetty
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wtf is dofd

shut trench
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denizen of the dream

obsidian jetty
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cats worked just fine for me in raid testing. Didn't try crashing

shut trench
round field
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How is

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Dofd

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Denzens of the dream

shut trench
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true

obsidian jetty
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D of D

round field
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I hate it

zealous dome
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should i be using wrath or starfire to build astral power in ST (Mythic+)? im using the chosen of elune build from wowhead

round field
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starfire

cloud plover
carmine vigil
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gn

scarlet tapir
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no it was cats

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mb

vital hound
still relic
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Purple dolphin attack is good

twin lotus
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i just wanna be part of your dreamgrove

ornate quest
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Hi, just wondering when do I use my 2nd charge of incarn in aoe/m+ situation? Do I use it straight away after the first one is done or do I wait for FoE to be up?

lucid olive
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Just vibe it out

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If the first pull lasts a while you can use it right after the 1st one drops off, otherwise you can hold it for 2nd pull and try to have at least 1 round of incarn for every pull

ornate quest
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gotcha, ty!

pseudo merlin
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I just use it every time my trinket is available

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assuming that logically coincides with a pull

lucid olive
pseudo merlin
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CA is 102 and HOC is 90, so you can basically go an entire dungeon lining CA up with HOC without wasting charges in the end

dry heron
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doing some UI stuff, does anyone have the exact pandemic of moonfire/sunfire handy by any chance

severe hollow
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30% of base duration

dry heron
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yes i know

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i'm looking for the number

severe hollow
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thinkin arent you ingame to do your UI?

dry heron
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yes, but it isn't inconviable that someone knows 'oh yes, its 4.2 secs, or something close

severe hollow
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I feel like multiplying the number right infront of your face by 0.3 is faster and easier tho

cyan estuary
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I don’t have .3 fingers 😦

severe hollow
lucid olive
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also just take the number of duration in the tooltip and google "30% of X"

pseudo merlin
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chatGPT 30% of X

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And tell it to answer that question with a bit of sass and annoyance

lucid olive
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Sunfire

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oh they're both 18 seconds

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so 5.4 then

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gg

dry heron
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i had one that i had yonked from somewhere probablly 8 years ago now or something stupid, somehow i was messing with something and it went ka ka, so i'm just creating one from tmw

lucid olive
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steal from this

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thats what I do

dry heron
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nah thats way too much effort

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it was a bit quicker to just make my own

lucid olive
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yeah and asking in a discord something you could just do in 10 seconds is much easier

dry heron
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moonfire says 22secs, so that would be 6.6 i guess

lofty depot
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dont need to yoink things if u use the correct pack :/

pseudo merlin
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just pay dsune and get his pack

scenic mist
heavy plover
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is it even possible to track Celestial Alignment CD through weakauras, or is it totally bugged ?
It doesn't even show the icon, and I also tried weakauras created by others. It's not showing on any that I tried.
Went through different spell IDs, speccing out and back into it, etc.
peepoWTF

scenic mist
lucid olive
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Changing those talents around can make the game think you haven't learned the spell and therefore won't show the weakaura

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Relogging your character would fix it

lofty depot
scenic mist
lucid olive
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No, it won't show you the icon if the spell isn't learned no matter what pack you're using

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same bug that occurs with macros

lofty depot
heavy plover
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oof, they've really dropped a ball on this one, thanks, will be able to reference from this pack.

digital berry
pseudo merlin
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It's almost like that was the point

pseudo merlin
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šŸ‘

mighty mica
strong bronze
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Anybody got some PTR builds to mess around with?

pseudo merlin
digital berry
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Ah yeah it was so obviously a joke

pseudo merlin
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Idk Ent got it

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Ita brain

digital berry
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Bffr

severe hollow
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have to say it really was quite obviously a joke

digital berry
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I must be artistic cause I cannot see a shred of evidence for it being a joke

severe hollow
pseudo merlin
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Because you're asking an LLM to do math?

severe hollow
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not only math math which would be less writing to typo into a calculator

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and that was even pointed out beforehand

digital berry
pseudo merlin
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Therapy is easier than math

severe hollow
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yes that makes more "sense"

pseudo merlin
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Just don't be depressed

severe hollow
digital berry
pseudo merlin
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Anyway

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I wanna play with my dryad

digital berry
pseudo merlin
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intel is doing 3d v cache PogCat

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but why does copying keybinds to PTR take longer than logging in and just manually redoing keybinds

maiden pasture
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yeah

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dont bother copying keybinds

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its buggy and takes too ong

lofty depot
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just copy ur folder over and change the name

tame dome
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how's single target looking next season?

pseudo merlin
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-ITS STILL LOADING

pseudo merlin
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Current state literally could not matter less

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We're so far removed from release and final tuning

round field
pseudo merlin
maiden pasture
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main capital

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stormwind / org

round field
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Also one in dorongal

maiden pasture
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p easy to find ngl

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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thx

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wait what's a renown building

scenic mist
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where there are portals to capital

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big building

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great building

pseudo merlin
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ah

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nah this aint it

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did they forgot to make the male version

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Or are we rocking croptops and skirts?

scenic mist
teal minnow
scenic mist
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go to hair salon

fossil hemlock
lucid olive
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nerubar palace tier set looked better

split coral
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yo boomie nation... is hoc hero better than myth signet

lucid olive
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sure

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close enough that it doesnt really matter one way or the other

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on some raid fights HoC is better for timer reasons

split coral
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m+ only

pseudo merlin
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Skirts are haram

pseudo merlin
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signet in keys is trolling

lavish hawk
pseudo merlin
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wtf is this, I've never seen =cursor before

pallid idol
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its when u trying to like, cast something on a persons character body without targetting them

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ppl use that for feathers on priest

pseudo merlin
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wait what

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doesn't work for hostiles though right?

loud kettle
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it's based on your cursor

willow sorrel
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Wouldn't it be @cursor though, not =cursor?

loud kettle
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Wherever ur cursor is the spell goes

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Only works for the reticle based spells

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Ursols vortex for example

willow sorrel
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Interesting, would Treants work with that?

loud kettle
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yea

olive cloak
pseudo merlin
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I know what @cursor is

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I' have never seen target`is cursor before

twin lotus
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Wait you can make treants always go on ur target?

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If mages can't flamestrike target, I don't think we can do with treants

pseudo merlin
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according to justin

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but I doubt it

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There are special talent choice nodes for targetting a reticle based spell on a hostile

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Those wouldnt need to exist if you could just macro it so probably not

calm ibex
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They should just make it go on target

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Or work like wrath trees where they just cast wrath instead of melee

robust monolith
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anyone knows if the burning blossom buff got hotfixed?

clear crow
dense gust
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damn dude, so cringe seeing rejuv for 500k while ret can word of glory for like 4mil and instant flash for 2m

lucid olive
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why are u pressing rejuv

pseudo merlin
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500k rejuvs is insanely high

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per tick? what

lucid olive
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why are u pressing it 500k times

pseudo merlin
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that's insane

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do you mean regrowth?

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Would you rather that regrowth healed 1m and cost 90 ASP?

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Ret isn't out here flash healing for 2m or woging for 4m

exotic perch
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the only time i regrowth myself is if its a dps stop lol

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let the healers heal you

calm ibex
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I only really use it for the canisters on gally

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For the dr

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Because I’m a bomb gamer

lucid olive
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good for heal absorb soaks

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since Forestwalk makes you take more healing

pseudo merlin
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they need to for sure increase regrowths healing though

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idk who it would harm for offheals like that to once again do meaningful healing

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just scale it seperately for pvp

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Do they really think we're going to see hybrid dps spec metas in RWF that spam selfheals and then the group runs 1 healer

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or what are they afraid of

lucid olive
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idk 8% DR and 8% increased healing received is pretty good

pseudo merlin
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Yes

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and that's not healing

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I'm not saying regrowth isnt worth pressing

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Its healing minus those effects that we may or may not lose at some point, is just bad

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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exactly

scenic mist
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  • needs a talent
pseudo merlin
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the way regrowth works with kotg is good

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it should be what it is at baseline

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8% more healing received and 8% DR is essentially barkskin

lucid olive
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i'm trying to find the post where they buffed Swiftmend for Balance Druid by a random amount

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but can't find it

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was sometime in this expansion

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super funny since the only time you can ever cast Swiftmend is through Convoke and that's only like 2/1000 times

pseudo merlin
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yeah the setup for swiftmend is crazy

quiet drift
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BFA swiftmend was it

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Lay on hand on 9s CD

exotic perch
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Yea it was actually good in bfa

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Didnt require a hot either just a nice 75% hp heal

pseudo merlin
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its called renewal now

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and still worse

maiden pasture
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it felt nice in SL even

round field
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It was alright ye

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Got it for free with resto affinity

lucid olive
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Swiftmend was nice cause you did 0 dps outside of Ravenous Frenzy anyway so you could just offheal

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do first ramp and then go get a bite to eat and do the dishes quick and be back again for 2nd ramp

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top dam

quiet drift
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Last phase Wild Growth had to be kept on CD

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otherwise whipped

olive plover
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was there any changes to beam in 11.2 ptr? I saw some wording change on the spell on theinitial datamine but... was it a meme or

lucid olive
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no

olive plover
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was just wording adjustments?

lucid olive
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they change some flags or attributes for spells regularly

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but they dont mean anything

lofty depot
lucid olive
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just housekeeping

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removing flags that haven't been a thing in forever

lofty depot
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yea 5th word is u

stuck quartz
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Has anyone been tinkering with boomy in PTR? How are things looking

sacred isle
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don't see anything

stuck quartz
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I’ve seen how bonkers the keeper 4set is during raid testing but haven’t had time to test myself

maiden pasture
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the degenerate keeper shit is very very likely to be nerfed, so not much real information can be got rn knowing that

lofty depot
stuck quartz
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Yeah not asking for pins, just for experiences had so far

lofty depot
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well i didnt respond to u

maiden pasture
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its broken and cringe on ptr rn

lofty depot
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experiences lol, surge hit hard

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theres some degen shit u can do thats gonna get changed/nerfed

sacred isle
lofty depot
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its the 2nd week of ptr

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yes theres goign to be changes between now and august

sacred isle
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so i'm hearing atm it's really strong i like that. i'll just pray for not too many changes šŸ˜‰

fiery harness
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What are some degen shit that boomy can do

lucid olive
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cause the current tech where you Starfall on single target for 30+ seconds is not fun

lofty depot
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well its fun

sacred isle
sacred isle
fiery harness
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Legion boomy can cast while moving?

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When legion remake

sacred isle
lofty depot
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well starfall wasnt around the druid at teh time

pseudo merlin
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legion didnt have SD

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did it

lofty depot
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it did

pseudo merlin
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crazy

lofty depot
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it was specifically added in legion

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lol

pseudo merlin
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ah

sacred isle
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usually mine isn't anyways tho kek

quiet drift
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But also Legion Starfall was targeted

pseudo merlin
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how was the SD tuning in legion

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was it also not worth using in ST

lofty depot
sacred isle
lofty depot
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smart

sacred isle
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i can green parse dragon and i'm doing way more dmg then purple parsing boomy apparently

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but i'm looking at next tier

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and praygeing

lofty depot
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dragon op all tier

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no changes

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wcyd

pseudo merlin
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where do you get that free runed crest quest again

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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you have to kill gallywix

scenic mist
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gallagio hotel boss

pseudo merlin
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ah right

cerulean smelt
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I am new to this season, and want to craft weapon.
in season 1 i think i used an embillishment on this weapon? Is that still a thing / what embillishment?

scenic mist
cerulean smelt
pseudo merlin
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yes, ascendance/check compendium

pseudo merlin
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"one button beats 75% of wow players "

maiden pasture
trim helm
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i tell people im using the one button rotation when im top dps and not actually using it

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always gets some laughs in m+

pseudo merlin
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new vid

carmine vigil
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secret meeting

maiden pasture
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the goats all gathered together

pseudo merlin
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who are those people?

lofty depot
vital hound
carmine vigil
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he has been meleeing this target dummy for 7 hours

pseudo merlin
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is it dead yet?

scenic plaza
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How is boomie looking for next season?

pseudo merlin
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ask again in 2 months

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tuning barely began, nothing we tell you now will be worth anything

scenic mist
midnight bough
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pseudo merlin
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yes

dense steeple
lofty depot
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got the warlocks spreading propaganda

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definately getting nerfed

lucid olive
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they need to get the shorts and tiktoks out of the way so they can call us sandbaggers when we get nerfed to the ground and be bottom dps in raid

round field
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the usual

brittle mulch
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am i trippin

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why is glyph of stars not on the auction house

lofty depot
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cuz an inscribe hasnt made it recently

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firechicken best anyway

brittle mulch
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i dont have firechicken 🄺😢

lofty depot
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go farm it bud

pseudo merlin
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because glyph of stars is lame and immoral

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Go play wizard

maiden pasture
pseudo merlin
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you dont even play chicken, thyme

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smh

maiden pasture
#

you're in attrocity discord so i assume u have his ui, his ui has "current xpac only" on by default

mighty mica
pseudo merlin
#

wrong

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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btw

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when do we get shirvallah form back

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that shit was goated

scenic mist
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the feral form from wod ?

pseudo merlin
#

@loud kettle when?

pseudo merlin
mighty mica
pseudo merlin
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claws of shirvallah idk what it was called

pseudo merlin
lofty depot
pseudo merlin
#

have you seen full HD plugin OSRS?

#

it actually isnt half bad

royal zenith
#

it's fully bad?

pseudo merlin
#

shut up šŸ¦†

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oh Aion 2 might be dead

royal zenith
#

just clarifying!!

pseudo merlin
#

It's got way too many mobile elements

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even though they said they wouldnt go that direction

brittle mulch
astral wave
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hows boomy looking for S3?

lofty depot
#

week 2 of ptr that last 8 weeks

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ask in august

scenic mist
astral wave
scenic mist
lofty depot
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@ripe slate do u have a link to ur dryad weakaura with the damage on it

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im not smart enough

plucky valley
scenic mist
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i did this

astral wave
lofty depot
#

šŸ‘€

plucky valley
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Respect

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And for what it’s worth I also like to use the glyph sometimes

astral wave
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i change the glyphs around for visuals to match mogs. sometimes im a real moonkin.

uncut gulch
#

Addon-wise, are treants from Force of Nature considered to be totems? What is the easiest way to track their duration?

lofty depot
#

easiest way is to take the weakaura from pack

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or use a pack that already tracks it

limpid osprey
#

bestin slots is showing on the vendor as agility (im speccd balance and loot spec is balance) is this normal?

pale whale
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you can just buy it, equipit and use it to swap to int

limpid osprey
lofty depot
#

read the green text

limpid osprey
limpid osprey
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heroic? just hit 80

dense steeple
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I wouldn't buy it personally

pale whale
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do you want the mythic one?

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if so kill mythic bandit

limpid osprey
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brand new character dont think ill be doing mythic anytime soon

dense steeple
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Its not worth using on heroic level

pale whale
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don't waste dinars on HC

lofty depot
limpid osprey
lofty depot
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if ur not doing mythic dont buy it

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craft a staff

pale whale
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crafted wep simmed better for me than HC best in slots

dense steeple
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Crafted 681 > heroic BiS

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All scenarios

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Heroic bis is not good

lofty depot
#

i didnt notice it was heroic

limpid osprey
#

ah so crafted 658 and farm crests to get it up?

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any thing from vendor worth it at heroic lvl?

lofty depot
#

hoc

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jastors maybe

dense steeple
#

Hoc and jug both good, maybe jastors

pale whale
#

HC jug is great even in mythic

dense steeple
#

If youre not planning on getting end game mythic before season end anyway

pale whale
#

it's probably the only HC thing i'd use dinar on

limpid osprey
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yeah dont think ill hit mythic at all this late in season. only push keys.

#

maybe can get homies to carry me ina bandit kill

pale whale
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if you do all +12's and aren't planning on mythic, get priory

lofty depot
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disagree

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but if u want it go for it :/

pale whale
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well they said they aren't going to do mythic this season so how would they get any better myth track trinkets?

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just being logical

limpid osprey
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any of those good for keys specifically? seems best bet is to hold for +12 mythic gears.

pale whale
#

the dreamgrove guide has info on all good trinkets

limpid osprey
#

yeah dont see mythic raid happening at all. only push keys

lofty depot
pale whale
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are you planning on running hc every week @limpid osprey

limpid osprey
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probably not

pale whale
#

I'd probably just run a droptimizer and see which dinar items are the best upgrades

limpid osprey
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kinda seems like should go hoc. then maybe moxies. save last for +12 soemthing. prob need to use all resource to even get a last push lol. we like a month out from end of season?

scenic mist
lofty depot
#

dont u mean august 5

severe hollow
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but thats a tuesday all patches are wednesday

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smh

lofty depot
severe hollow
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indeed time gets stuck in hair

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so you are behind

scenic mist
exotic storm
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Plus NA always beta tests the patch so we get like 2 hours that night after 5 maintenance extensions and EU gets a 2 hour downtime

vagrant cove
#

Yo I gotta know, since we follow a "priority list", does that mean that balance druids hekili profile would actually be good?

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Id be quite happy to turn my brain off for raid and let an addon tell me what to push ngl

obsidian jetty
#

Do what you want. It will always be better to get good and play the game yourself unless you have a bot play the game for you (against ToS)

lofty depot
eager raft
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hekili is probably fine. better than the ingame rotation assist

scenic mist
vagrant cove
cloud plover
#

that's still more brain on xdd

vagrant cove
#

So true

cloud plover
#

and slower gcd means less button presses

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which means even more brain off

scenic mist
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best strat is bind the OBR on every bind

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press anything anytime

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feel like a god

cloud plover
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I think I pressed it for one minute and got so bored I wanted to go sleep instead of play the game

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idk how people manage

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guildies going whole ptr testing with one button

lofty depot
limpid nymph
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This is a pretty basic question but just want to confirm... In AOE I prioritize getting moonfire and sunfire on all mobs before pressing any other buttons? For very large groups in M+ that take a while to get full dots up, I shouldn't press any other CDs like Fury of Elune until dots are done?

lofty depot
#

yes, yes

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dotting whiel in cds is bad

limpid nymph
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Thank you

desert imp
#

random druid question, how do we acquire the rideable travel form?

loud kettle
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should be from a vendor in dreamgrove

lofty depot
#

its also mount form not travel btw

loud kettle
#

ye

desert imp
obsidian jetty
#

There is no vendor in here.

loud kettle
desert imp
#

ā¤ļø

vapid anvil
#

Hey im trying to get the flying mount from legion is there a video guide on how to do it? I havegotten all the artifact weapons and dont know what to do next. Theres no quests left in the dreamgrove

lofty depot
#

google prob

drifting nova
#

legion is still a disaster of phasing spawns

ripe slate
#

As long as the data is actually in the tooltip at least lol

ripe slate
vital hound
lofty depot
#

yee

vital hound
#

lit ty

pseudo merlin
#

I wonder if there's an on use to turn on the brains of the people who ask about BIS being a different main stat

vital hound
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@lofty depot do i use buffed surge at all outside of ca

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or is it ca + starfall then 2x starsurge

round field
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I am reading

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Very cursed things

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So early in the morning

hollow mist
#

stop reading

round field
#

Done

elder remnant
#

has someone posted PTR talents

hollow mist
#

I'm looking into my crystal ball and anticipating a its ptr go test shit answer sry rae

elder remnant
#

It's never ptr go test shit these apes have always come up with some cook

past parcel
#

I have a question. When I simulate, I get different bis depending on which dungeon I simulate.

in some dungeons I get that bis trinket for me is Mug's Moxie jug (671 ilvl) with Eye of Kezan (671 ilvl)

And in other dungeons I get Mug's Moxie jug (671 ilvl) with Entropic skaradyn core (684 ilvl)

I have x3 [Puzzling Cartel Chip]. What would you buy, Eye of Kezan 671 or Entropic skaradyn core 684

elder remnant
round field
pseudo merlin
scenic mist
vital hound
#

how do i make

#

the number shorthand

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also do you know the answer to this

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do i use buffed surge at all outside of ca
or is it ca + starfall then 2x starsurge

scenic mist
#

Whatever you do

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You got that 2sec window

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Make most of it

scenic mist
vital hound
#

explain 2s window

scenic mist
vital hound
#

o

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roger

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i might add a sound

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i was being real regen

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and holding the buff until next ca

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for boat

scenic mist
#

That also works but it is degen
And might be killed

vital hound
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yea

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probably will be

scenic mist
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@obsidian jetty did say yesterday he hit 100M+ ss w/o the degen tech

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Couldn’t reproduice but Tbf I was distracted by Gamz horrid glyph of stars

round field
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glpyh of stars bis

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if u disagree ur a pig

obsidian jetty
#

@scenic mist

scenic mist
scenic mist
scenic mist
round field
pseudo merlin
lucid olive
pseudo merlin
cunning bronze
#

Hey guys! im trying to sim my char for gem/enchants replacements, for minmax. But i get like 20-30m litterations, and the cap is 16m. But i want to sim all gems. How are you guys doing this to max out the character. The primary gem "always use" and "Only max colors" i have enabled? which i should?

pseudo merlin
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One gem per color is fine

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Just make it always have mastery

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Or pay the robot

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one or two ring enchants

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also likely no reason to sim other enchants

lucid olive
#

just do this

pseudo merlin
#

yeah

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except when you include many sidegrades I'd probably forego the super tiny possible gain on the onyx there

#

I'd rather add in another ring enchant then

obsidian jetty
#

the sim will never be able to tell you the real dif between 49 of each stat

pseudo merlin
#

I mean it will be 196 right

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not 49

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but yeah

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So you'll get more out of selecting an additional ring enchant and even that will be minor

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245 sorry*

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unless youre using circlet, then it will be 147

obsidian jetty
#

I'm saying the difference between a master vers or a mastery haste gem is 49

pseudo merlin
#

I know

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But that's not what you're simming when you're selecting an additional same color gem

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You're simming that gem to occupy the remaining 4 slots

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occupying 5 in total

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or 3 with cyrces

obsidian jetty
#

ah, well he linked max colors

delicate perch
#

sim bad
vibes good

pseudo merlin
#

Max colors functions like that

cunning bronze
pseudo merlin
#

9 gem slots

  • 1x meta
  • 4x optimising meta
  • 4x the same gem selected to occupy the remaining slots
#

That's how it is simmed

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So you will always have 1 gem 5 times (3 with cyrce)

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So while 49 is obviously not worth simming, you're opening up the ability for the sim to sim that 49 stat 5 times (3 with cyrce)

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That's the value gain

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Which is still not big, and only half or 2/3 of a ring enchant

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while taking up more iterations

cunning bronze
#

The gem setup picture Gamz sendt, does it work for every other class aswell?

delicate perch
#

probably not, mastery just good so you can select the other stats to see what you want some of

cunning bronze
#

But then my litterations explode

pseudo merlin
#

Whatever stat you're most likely to want in a greater amound, select that as main, works for every class

#

Or alternatively look at your droptimizer or something, see what kind of statted items it's currentl recommending and then go with that on gems

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For ret you'd go mastery, for MM you'd go crit, boomie mastery“, etc

cunning bronze
#

im playing both specs on lock, boomie, enha and balance. just want to find a gem setup that doesnt include everything to not explode my litterations

proper sinew
#

What gems you put in your gear barely registers

scenic mist
cunning bronze
severe hollow
split dome
#

Hello, friends. Any plater profiles for balance that you all prefer over others that's beneficial for dots and changing the colour of the nameplate?

scenic mist
split dome
scenic mist
split dome
#

Fair. Just personal preference. Would rather have that than icons/auras showing. Thanks!

pseudo merlin
#

damn we don't even need to say mom

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just "mo" will do

scenic mist
#

it actually is less equivocal this way tho

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eventhough had he said "sure mo" i would have thought he took me for a bartender, but hey, wcyd

spice roost
#

how do u figure out how much health going from a 658 ring to 681 would add

pseudo merlin
#

compare the two?

spice roost
#

i havent crafted yet

pseudo merlin
#

look in top gear

spice roost
#

but it doesnt say health just stam

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i want the extra health for higher keys but im not sure how much it actually adds

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to be worth

severe hollow
#

and it scales lineraly

scenic mist
#

dont quote me on that tho

spice roost
#

oh wow thats not that much

severe hollow
pseudo merlin
#

nah

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aint no way youre excited about getting a basic math question right

severe hollow
pseudo merlin
#

busted

scenic mist
severe hollow
#

what

scenic mist
#

like when ravec made the joke

#

yesterday

severe hollow
#

oh

#

didnt recognize the name

pseudo merlin
#

WHO?

scenic mist
spice roost
#

they are nerfing the circlet in 11.2 right the mastery on it?

scenic mist
spice roost
#

oh

scenic mist
#

but in essence yeah

severe hollow
#

solving it easier would be way harder

digital berry
#

Finally

pseudo merlin
#

I get to the trash before the last boss in Cinderbrew and our ret starts spamming AoE, so I tell him "yo this is a single target encounter, they heal up, no reason to AoE" so our french resto shaman immediately loses his shit and tells me to "not be rude and condescending and he needs to learn" to which I reply: I'm just pointing it out, that's literally how you learn. To which he replies "LMAO you're 1.5k IO, how dare you talk back to a 3.3k io main"

severe hollow
#

tbf the wording in this situation matters a lot

pseudo merlin
#

I know

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fuck I cant scroll up enough

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I double checked my wording

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It was neutral

severe hollow
#

yea if its similar to the wording you used here massive overreaction

pseudo merlin
#

Yeah I double checked because I'm a dick all the time

#

This time I wasn't

severe hollow
#

but I know a lot of situations where the message was the same but wording was very different

scenic mist
#

anyway, talking to apes only caring about io is without a doubt a waste of your time

pseudo merlin
#

but like

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"how dare you talk back to a 3.3k rio main"

scenic mist
#

lmao

pseudo merlin
#

might be the most unhinged thing I've heard in my entire life

scenic mist
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yo i barely cleared 12s

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i'm the apex

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oh no maybe 12s is just 3k

pseudo merlin
#

3.3k is

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15

scenic mist
#

3.3 must be what, 14s ? 15

quiet drift
#

zamn

pseudo merlin
#

im 3188 and all 14

exotic perch
#

Im right at 3k and id still talk shit to a 3.3k io

pseudo merlin
#

for sure

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3k rio is a coice

exotic perch
#

Turns out people are just bad at the game

#

Which isnt surprising when you think of average people in life

pseudo merlin
#

but like

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im 1.5k on this hunter alt that got level 80 yesterday

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and you drop that line

exotic perch
#

Def was their friend

#

And knew they were being dumb and you hit the nail on the head and they didnt like it

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
#

did i mention he was french

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your people at it again

proper sinew
#

First boss priory still causes some crashouts

#

shared hp too complex for some

pseudo merlin
#

well its not shared

#

not exactly

proper sinew
#

It is, it even states it

pseudo merlin
#

one boss just takes the dmg the other does

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it's not shared

proper sinew
quiet drift
#

The adds just have gazillion more hp

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So they will never die first

round field
scenic mist
scenic mist
pseudo merlin
#

If the HP was shared then you'd need to deal with the +1k

#

the dmg is shared

scenic mist
#

i mean i kinda get your 'dmg is shared', it's really semantics at this point tho

as long as we all agree it's a 2 target encounter and you can prio whichever npc you want, for exec reasons or devoker mastery reasons

pseudo merlin
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playing MM there sucks ass

#

any time you dont have a third target you're suffering

sharp mason
#

if when we're doting everything on a m+ pull we get a mushroom proc do we still want to incarn or we wait for the mushroom dot to go off to get more uptime on it?

pseudo merlin
#

ignore mushrooms

craggy hill
#

Just setting up a balance spec to try out is there much difference between Hekili and the Blizz rotation assistant?

gentle patio
#

Blizz doesn't know what cooldowns are

pseudo merlin
#

its probably like

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10%?

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Blizzard sucks at everything

craggy hill
#

ty

agile nimbus
#

dudes, whats the secret sauce for the 11.2 ptr? i dont do any dps lol

pseudo merlin
#

play around dryad

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I think you want to have the dryad cast the buffed surges (cuz for some reason that's a thing)

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and you'd have to like CA before the buff ends to get dryads surges to be buffed

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idk maybe someone else can explain better

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
#

I'm assuming he means not doing the tier set abuse massive numbers

#

But yeah if you're literally not doing any meaningful damage that's you

scenic mist
#

what i meant was : play like it's 11.1 : you are top dmg
play around new 4part : you do 20% more than the 2nd guy

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basically just be sure to cast your buffed starsurges while still in CA

#

it's the 101

agile nimbus
#

meaning dump all astral while still in CA i assume

scenic mist
agile nimbus
#

yeah

scenic mist
#

now after 10sec of CA, you get a buff saying your next 2 surges are massive

#

but you only have 2sec left in CA

#

so send these surges in these 2sec

#

is the basic use of new set bonus

pseudo merlin
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no you want to send a new CA so your dryad can cast them

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no?

#

that's how you get turbo numbers

scenic mist
#

but basic shit is already good

pseudo merlin
#

right

scenic mist
#

buffed ss buff lasts like 40sec

pseudo merlin
#

Yes but it doesnt buff the dryad damage if you renew rather than extend CA

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But I might be wrong, I cba playing 300msptr

scenic mist
#

you are doing the dam

pseudo merlin
#

No you let the dryad cast them

scenic mist
#

dryad litteraly afk not copying anything but starfall

scenic mist
cloud plover
#

chat we did it

pseudo merlin
#

@lucid olive

scenic mist
#

dryad buged atm

cloud plover
#

gearing is done until vaults

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
#

how'd you get legendary pants/gloves/chest/head?

scenic mist
#

get candle from DFC rather than entropic skardin core

cloud plover
#

no ty

#

same shit really

pseudo merlin
#

2.8k

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do it

scenic mist
cloud plover
#

i am

scenic mist
#

spoiler alert : you arent

cloud plover
#

ur talking to a dog

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playing fetch is my whole thing

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i see bubble and i will make sure i catch them at perfect times

scenic mist
pseudo merlin
#

can you catch a bubble without breaking it

cloud plover
#

i could craft shoulders but cba

scenic mist
cloud plover
scenic mist
cloud plover
#

used to this trinket from my arcanus magus already

scenic mist
#

moving bad for owl

#

yeah arcane that have 2/3 of their casts not restricting movement

cloud plover
scenic mist
#

no but tbf you're right, noone cares about a +20k dps at this point, on an alt

#

was just pointing out there were still some upgrades available before vault, but

cloud plover
#

i bet candle assumes standing in it at some point

#

so if i dont do that theyll be equal

pseudo merlin
#

yes

scenic mist
#

gives very few dps compared to getting (or not) the purple bubble

pseudo merlin
#

the full time i think

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super bait

cloud plover
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next project it is

scenic mist
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not the same dropdown x)

cloud plover
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sadly i dont have mythic clears atm

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guild stopped raiding for now

scenic mist
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wdyd with these 7x 660+ char ? 1 weekly every week ? more ?

cloud plover
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depends on mood and if friends wanna play tbh

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they're being played to differing degrees depending on what we need

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if people wanna spam keys im spamming keys and getting those 8 vaults everywhere

round field
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Disgusting mpluser

pseudo merlin
cloud plover
scenic mist
pseudo merlin
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Cant

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Blizzard hates me

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There's literally a GM preventing it from dropping

scenic mist
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gm even prevents any loot from our normal kill

pseudo merlin
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yes

cloud plover
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how do u even farm tindral new xpac

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do u just queue lfr

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or is there groups

pseudo merlin
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everything but lfr

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you cant do lfr

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mythic is grouped

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normal can be easily solod

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hc tough solo/2man

cloud plover
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is it one chance or one per diff

pseudo merlin
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That's what ashi says

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I don't trust him

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But I go by it anyway

scenic mist
cloud plover
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i go by 1 mug jug dropping and me getting it surely

scenic mist
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luckily ravec will drop on the 2nd kill of whatever week he'll drop it and we'll get fixed

hollow mist
cloud plover
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its joever

digital berry
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Some gardening perhaps

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A useful hobby ?

scenic mist
eager raft
cloud plover
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website / addon combo called wowthing

maiden pasture
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they fly towards you

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so you will

scenic mist
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More often than not btw

scarlet tapir
scenic mist
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But hey, i found the trinket painful but I don’t make the rules, everyone is free to play it obv

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Id argue candle is an upgrade tho (which was the starting point)

unique cypress
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how are we playing bandit mythic for a high log?
Do you guys dot all 3 ads and starfall there, or only tarfall no dotting and just let trees make what they can?

scarlet tapir
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trees -> sunfire all adds

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no trees -> double dot all adds

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but u should have it

unique cypress
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and starfall when atleast 1 or 2 adds are alive?

lofty depot
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1 if ur playing ak

unique cypress
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what ak stands for?

lofty depot
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read some of ur talents and find out

meager storm
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Aetherial kindling

unique cypress