BUT CAN I PLEASE GET IT
#balance
pseudo merlin
scenic mist
There is a dream walk portal yeah
clever barn
My sim is telling me critical chain is the best
scenic mist
is there an unlock
Idk
Maybe the DF campaign ?
It’s the portal that was never used, back left when you spawn
lofty depot
Sim it
signal temple
Idk
Maybe the DF campaign ?
It’s the portal that was never used, back left when ...
I didn't know about this 
scenic mist
I didn't know about this <a:GlorpNoted:1385932403951927438>
Got “amidrassil guards” or something similar, around the portal now 😉
Sends you to the edge of the island, 10sec flying from Bel Ameth
signal temple
For some reason I haven't had to use Dreamwalk in a while
pseudo merlin
Idk
Maybe the DF campaign ?
It’s the portal that was never used, back left when ...
still no reply on the ticket I made last week 🙂
scenic mist
still no reply on the ticket I made last week 🙂
But 3 brand new chances tonight
balmy light
static charge it is
pseudo merlin
static charge it is
bet youre on weekly
scenic mist
still no reply on the ticket I made last week 🙂
We’ll hold on the dps this time
balmy light
bet youre on weekly
hm?
fossil hemlock
Weekly should be updated though
fossil hemlock
For the belt changes
pseudo merlin
should it
fossil hemlock
It's a new week so ye
pseudo merlin
ah you on latest alright
lofty depot
Weekly should be updated though
Never weekly
clever ibex
Any take on PTR? Anyone tested how we feel with new tier?
pallid bay
lucid olive
Any take on PTR? Anyone tested how we feel with new tier?
Tier good
Choose between Starsurge hitting for 50m + at the end of your cooldowns or pressing Starfire
sudden flame
if you start doing this im purposefully running you over with the balls
lucid olive
Go to sleep
clever ibex
Choose between Starsurge hitting for 50m + at the end of your cooldowns or press...
Sounds… pretty good
Barring any tuning, think we will be meta next season again?
fossil hemlock
Saw a log of a surge crit for total 247M damage :) on 9 targets
lucid olive
No way to know
twin lotus
lucid olive
They didn't change how stops work in m+ yet and Starfall is still uncapped so we'll probably be played in m+ still
fossil hemlock
Also I read about a dryad buff cap? What's the cap based on? Spellpower?
clever ibex
They didn't change how stops work in m+ yet and Starfall is still uncapped so we...
New dungeon rotation still favor our stops I guess
And if we do hella damage with new starsurge cleaves as well then yea
Would you press surge in aoe then?
fossil hemlock
Twice after CDs, yes
lofty depot
Twice after CDs, yes
(if ur playing keeper)
clever ibex
And if you play elune?
fossil hemlock
I thought that was the assumption with "starsurge cleaves"
lofty depot
U spam starfall like u normally would
Th EC tier set has nothing to do with casting surge
clever ibex
What does it do for EC? Sorry for being uninformed
jade flume
Hell nah
swift crystal
I see that the rotation for openners often says "Cast wrath 2 times before pull" my questions is how lol like what's the target then
swift crystal
Oh, so with 2 seconds on pull timer... I see. I thought there was a way to like dead cast it just for buff.
lofty depot
shut up drater
pseudo merlin
ok hc amir is too hard to solo
lucid olive
What does it do for EC? Sorry for being uninformed
Can also read Compendium news at the top
Linked in pins and channel description!
delicate perch
ok hc amir is too hard to solo
Maybe for you (I’ve never tried)
pseudo merlin
crisp badger
is it possible that mythic blazikon + heroic jug sims better than heroic jug + mythic hoc?
im doing some mdt sims for vault and getting some suspicious results
how can my top sim only have one embellishment 
grand prawn
On PTR build, playing KOTG u just send 2 starsurges after your CA ends?
CA ends> enter eclipse>send surges?
lapis tinsel
how can my top sim only have one embellishment <:thunkong:423728456560410625>
did you figure out why? really wierd xd
crisp badger
did you figure out why? really wierd xd
ok so i realised that even tho im using expert mode it still considers the settings on the threading uptime, whicih for whatever reason defaulted to 0 for no reason (its usually at 60). so i reran the sim again with that at 60% and here are the results
so embellishment is fixed now, but im still getting heroic jug + mythic blazikon as best trinkets
which i still find very odd
does the sim API enforce the trinket procs to be in sync with incarn useage?
pallid bay
are you simming a +10
pallid bay
yeah these pulls last 15s in incarn
crisp badger
thanks for noticing, why do my default settings keep getting fucked with
weak socket
guys im new to this discord and mainly just joined because i want to know how to sim my char properly, is there any guide i should follow in here?
crisp badger
yeah these pulls last 15s in incarn
yeah that makes a lot of sense
crisp badger
yeah these pulls last 15s in incarn
can you explain to me how you check this?
pallid bay
i just ran a quicksim to check
crisp badger
oh i see
crisp badger
ahhh
so these breakdowns are only possible in quick sim?
anyways thanks for the insight
pallid bay
yeah
sudden flame
crisp badger
am i just stupid or something
leaden birch
do we answer that
leaden birch
heh
jade flume
am i just stupid or something
No, just a bamkin
pallid bay
not related but this is funny
crisp badger
No, just a bamkin
yeah 
crisp badger
it bricked an entire use
you telling me the sim rotation sucks?
idk how to use best-in-slots tbh
dont have it yet, i assumed you line it up with second incarn and then just kinda use on cd and vibe it
which is what the sim appears to be doing?
crisp badger
<:dawg:1156583231093756104>
lofty depot
you telling me the sim rotation sucks?
MDT sucks, yes
crisp badger
huh
lofty depot
?
crisp badger
i was under the impression MDT sims should provide more realistic results compared to patchwerk
lofty depot
Tragic impression
crisp badger
but i guess patchwerk is at least a normative result that we can compare with
pallid bay
MDT sucks, yes
Pipe down
lofty depot
🙂
crisp badger
didn't realise it fucked up cds that badly in mdt
crisp badger
hmm so why do people recommend doing mdt sims?
or is mdt sims sucking a more recent development
lofty depot
Nothing is perfect
crisp badger
sure, but if it completely fucks up on use trinket cds then it gives completely useless information in that regard
a 3 minute trinket hold is insanity
so yeah its not about it not being perfect, it's completely useless for information on trinkets
fiery harness
What m+ rating is top 0.1%? If I time all 16s, do I get the title?
quiet drift
What m+ rating is top 0.1%? If I time all 16s, do I get the title?
Prolly gonna end at 20s
fiery harness
I guess it’s too late for me to push lol
crisp badger
I guess it’s too late for me to push lol
if you have a premade its not bad
sudden flame
Get boosted by your friends being resi 20
crisp badger
but queueing in lfg takes a lot of time
lofty depot
sure, but if it completely fucks up on use trinket cds then it gives completely ...
It's not like every boss fight is 5m and we use 3trees or 5th trees like sim uses it
slender dragon
guys why i lost 300 haste on the belt with 3 ilvl more
lofty depot
I do models for sports betting, and much like simming. It gives u an idea of what could happen and what can change the outcome but isn't the actual answer
crisp badger
I do models for sports betting, and much like simming. It gives u an idea of wha...
i make models for sensorimotor control, so i have a good idea of how simulations work
but im used to comparing with normative models
i get there's stochasticity and what not in simulations, and not all systems are linear
in fact most arent
but still, i expected the rotations not to be so fucked i guess
thought that would be fairly hard coded
pseudo merlin
guys im new to this discord and mainly just joined because i want to know how to...
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/how-to-sim-your-wow-character-a-guide-to-raidbots
Hey!
Guide will get you started. You're basically only ever going to be using Top Gear and Droptimizer. Boomie settings should be 1 target 5 minute patchwerk for raid and 1 target 5 minute patchwerk OR MDT for M+ (unless you're HYPERoptimising, 1t5m for m+ is more than fine)
MDT: follow instructions: https://wago.io/Yya4XBbl-
lofty depot
Funny line
lofty depot
thought that would be fairly hard coded
Just wait til the start of season when all the cooking happens and sim gains 0.5%s Everytime they add a modifer
royal zenith
I'm jk..
lofty depot
If u want a trip go look at the apl and try to read it
royal zenith
but I do live in the NL so the weather forecast is always wrong
crisp badger
but I do live in the NL so the weather forecast is always wrong
oh hey me too
buienalarm is alright
more accurate than most
royal zenith
can't say you're wrong about that
crisp badger
If u want a trip go look at the apl and try to read it
i've been avoiding diving too deep into this shit cuz i do enough brain work for my job and i jsut mostly wanna chill and vibe it for gaming
but
looks like i might have to
pseudo merlin
turns out it's always wrong
I think you're just always wrong
quiet drift
pseudo merlin
lofty depot
i've been avoiding diving too deep into this shit cuz i do enough brain work for...
actions+=/variable,name=pre_cd_condition,value=(!talent.whirling_stars|!talent.convoke_the_spirits|cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains<gcd.max*2|fight_remains<
Oops didn't copy whole thing
Anyway
crisp badger
actions+=/variable,name=pre_cd_condition,value=(!talent.whirling_stars|!talent.c...
just based on reasoning i think it's creating an action queue based on cd conditions and talents, but that's about all i can understand from that 
lofty depot
Well yea cd_condtion
Just the point was, there's actually just so much shit in the variables
crisp badger
Just the point was, there's actually just so much shit in the variables
myea
there is a lot of shit
lofty depot
If this, if that, not this, not that. Ope fight time, ope asp ovecap
Little Jimmy just wants DPS numby to go up
lucid olive
just based on reasoning i think it's creating an action queue based on cd condit...
Yeah, the specific line Arctic sent establishes a variable that is repeated in other spells that need to be aligned with your CD
crisp badger
Yeah, the specific line Arctic sent establishes a variable that is repeated in o...
i see, yeah that makes sense
lucid olive
It's also a very cursed variable cause it tries to account for every CD timing
lofty depot
actions+=/variable,name=pre_cd_condition,value=(!talent.whirling_stars|!talent.convoke_the_spirits|cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains<gcd.max*2|fight_remains<cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains+3|cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains>cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time+15*talent.control_of_the_dream)&(variable.on_use_trinket=0|(variable.on_use_trinket=1|variable.on_use_trinket=3)&(trinket.1.cooldown.remains>cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time+(15*talent.control_of_the_dream)|!talent.convoke_the_spirits&hero_tree.elunes_chosen&trinket.1.cooldown.remains>cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time-cooldown.ca_inc.duration|talent.convoke_the_spirits&(cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains<3&(ceil((fight_remains-10)%cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.duration)>ceil((fight_remains-trinket.1.cooldown.remains-10)%cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.duration))|cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains>trinket.1.cooldown.remains&cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time-cooldown.ca_inc.duration<trinket.1.cooldown.remains+15)|trinket.1.cooldown.remains+6>fight_remains|trinket.1.cooldown.ready)|variable.on_use_trinket=2&(trinket.2.cooldown.remains>cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time+(15*talent.control_of_the_dream)|!talent.convoke_the_spirits&hero_tree.elunes_chosen&trinket.1.cooldown.remains>cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time-cooldown.ca_inc.duration|talent.convoke_the_spirits&(cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains<3&(ceil((fight_remains-10)%cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.duration)>ceil((fight_remains-trinket.2.cooldown.remains-10)%cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.duration))|cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains>trinket.2.cooldown.remains&cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time-cooldown.ca_inc.duration<trinket.2.cooldown.remains+15)|trinket.2.cooldown.remains+6>fight_remains|trinket.2.cooldown.ready))&cooldown.ca_inc.remains<gcd.max&!buff.ca_inc.up
lucid olive
I think ideally we should have separated APL for both hero trees to make it more readable and easier for people who want to make small changes
crisp badger
yeah, so i guess that's why it ended up holding my on use for 3 mins, cuz some condition that may be somewhat arbitrary to the situation is not being met in that time
lofty depot
Have fun reading that
lucid olive
```actions+=/variable,name=pre_cd_condition,value=(!talent.whirling_stars|!talen...
Put text
lofty depot
I will not
royal zenith
I think you're just always wrong
Wrong
crisp badger
ban this man, he has 0 coding ettiquette
lucid olive
That thing just has random cursive in the middle gg
crisp badger
lofty depot
Type shit
lucid olive
Good enough
lofty depot
Idk I did thing
And its wrong or ur wrong
Anyway, that line is the gift that keeps on giving
And it'll get longer in 11.2 surely 🙂
crisp badger
i cba checking all those conditions
i've decided i will be a casual and just patchwerk sim
lofty depot
Welcome to the club buddy
crisp badger
Welcome to the club buddy
🤝
crisp badger
U could come sim hockey with me
are.. are you doing your modelling in excel?
lofty depot
I'm actually going back to learn R but yes
crisp badger
impressive
excel is a fucking pain in the ass for me, but i know its actually quite flexible
are you doing bayesian modeling?
pallid bay
thought that would be fairly hard coded
idk what this means
crisp badger
cuz yeah R would be amazing for this then
pallid bay
whats the opposite of hard coded in this context
crisp badger
whats the opposite of hard coded in this context
conditions and probabilities
hard coded is like a string of casts that are pre-decided
pallid bay
ok no APL is written like that
crisp badger
and the opposite would be to decide what to cast next based on some input, like cds and what not
yeah tbh i have no clue
lofty depot
The problem is the randomness of other shit not just cast wrath 8 times surge 4, cast wrath 8 times surge 4
pallid bay
its just a bunch of conditions
issue being that its missing some crucial ones for MDT
lucid olive
Tried to make a dungeonroute APL but it was 5% worse..
pallid bay
and i think you can make some conclusions based on your sim
lofty depot
are you doing bayesian modeling?
I didn't know that's what this is called or referred to but yes to an extent
pallid bay
if HoC is -0.3% compared to candle with 4 potential extra uses
its probably safe to assume that it is infact better
crisp badger
its probably safe to assume that it is infact better
right, makes sense
pallid bay
obviously the sim should just work better in the first place 
lofty depot
It more takes like last 3-5-10 game stats, against others and averages out shit.
Then u weight like L3 higher than 10 and u weight conference games vs non. And how close they are to finals... All little shit.
crisp badger
good to know t hat you can throw it into quicksim and see those details
crisp badger
if HoC is -0.3% compared to candle with 4 potential extra uses
cuz i was looking for'em before to check this exact thing
but didn't know where to find it
lapis tinsel
how do i sim dungeon slice?
lucid olive
You don't
lapis tinsel
whats the best for m+ aoe sims then?
lucid olive
MDT Sims or 1 target 5 minute patchwerk
Read the FAQ part in the Compendium about it
crisp badger
It more takes like last 3-5-10 game stats, against others and averages out shit....
yeah the main advantage of bayesian modeling for decision making is essentially the use of priors and probabilistic inferences that you can draw from it, i wouldn't be surprised if you've already used it at some point since it can be proven to be mathematically normative
lofty depot
This is such. It predicting based of goalie stats and defensive match ups what the expected shots they will have.
lofty depot
Yes
pallid bay
I do models for sports betting, and much like simming. It gives u an idea of wha...
this is always probability, sims are deterministic simulations in a controlled environment
bad example
lofty depot
It's a soft market compared to football
round field
is there big moni in hockey betting?
If you win yes
crisp badger
If you win yes
i meant as an industry
crisp badger
It's a soft market compared to football
what isn't, compared to football
the fans of that sport are bonkers
lofty depot
Yes
lucid olive
No sports allowed
You should see the hidden chat for colored names then..
lofty depot
MLB is a very hard grind
royal zenith
There’s no way you are comparing gambling to wow sims though
fervent merlin
So who do I put money on
jovial hare
You should see the hidden chat for colored names then..
What io do we need to get colored name 
crisp badger
There’s no way you are comparing gambling to wow sims though
i mean, it's modeling in both cases
jovial hare
There’s no way you are comparing gambling to wow sims though
There's plenty of overlap
crisp badger
tho gambling for hockey is a much tougher system to model
lofty depot
There’s no way you are comparing gambling to wow sims though
Well I wasn't
royal zenith
There’s overlap if you want to see it
scenic nebula
do you hold trees for the second incarn or do you just send?
royal zenith
And definitely ignore the reason why wow sims give valid output
Unless a class all of the sudden becomes injured
lofty depot
do you hold trees for the second incarn or do you just send?
In raid or
scenic nebula
yeah for a raid boss.
lofty depot
2nd trees is with ca
scenic nebula
im just sending in m+ atm
fervent merlin
I'm not a financial advisor
U do this for betting? Or u do analytics for team
lofty depot
But u trees if incarn is like 30 away?
round field
im just sending in m+ atm
Send fury if elune instead
scenic nebula
depends on the pull.
lofty depot
U do this for betting? Or u do analytics for team
Betting yes
round field
First smart thing that came out of your mouth
manic monolith
what spell is applying dots for us?
lofty depot
Moonfire, Sunfire, force of nature
manic monolith
got it, force of nature the one we have 2 charges of currently
lofty depot
We don't have charges
manic monolith
i was sitting at the dummies last night trying to figure it out
lucid olive
If you think Arctic is active a lot in here you should see his gambling discord..
lofty depot
Ur not in any of those
mighty mica
that you know of
lofty depot
But I'd be right
lucid olive
I still know..
manic monolith
whats the blue one we have charges of arctic
lofty depot
that you know of
I've checked
mighty mica
you don't know the alts
fervent merlin
Artic teach me how to parse in betting
eager raft
ban arctic
mighty mica
soon
lofty depot
you don't know the alts
Time to delete all my servers
lucid olive
Start with this one
lofty depot
whats the blue one we have charges of arctic
Picture
crisp badger
now im curious how good arctics gambling models are
eager raft
he’s poor
crisp badger
do you actually use them to advise gambling places on the odds they should have?
eager raft
so you can probably infer how good they are from that
crisp scaffold
But u trees if incarn is like 30 away?
Trees only with ca,never solo?
lofty depot
I'm not a sharp or in a syndicate and I use not only mine but others
crisp badger
or do you use it for personal gain
crisp scaffold
Same with convoke?
lofty depot
do you actually use them to advise gambling places on the odds they should have?
Advise, I am not a financial advisor
crisp badger
pretty cool job, i've got a year or so left of my current contract and im thinking about what to go into next, probably data science related
faint dove
Update your bios. Every time this starts happening, I check for bios updates and sure enough, one will have just been put out available. That fixes it and it’s easy to do.
leaden birch
Advise, I am not a financial advisor
here's some financial advice, put your life savings down on fartcoin
thank me later
lofty depot
But, I started modeling hockey 2 years ago and working to make it better. No one model is perfect so I use other people's factors as well as mine. And then try to edit mine when it's wrong.
The difference with this is. There's value in betting lines
manic monolith
Update your bios. Every time this starts happening, I check for bios updates and...
lul, until you brick your pc
crisp badger
But, I started modeling hockey 2 years ago and working to make it better. No one...
yeah big moni in gambling, always
lofty depot
So the model says x team is winning at 40% but the betting line is giving more value than that
manic monolith
here's some financial advice, put your life savings down on fartcoin
i put mine into black santa
lofty depot
pretty cool job, i've got a year or so left of my current contract and im thinki...
I started going back to school for data analytics yee
crisp badger
I started going back to school for data analytics yee
smart man
im also thinking about going back to school tbh
well, im kinda inschool rn too but
redo a bachelors
lofty depot
And really gambling is just a hobby/Side hustle of sorts... I love watching hockey and college football
crisp badger
i'd love to try applied mathematics
crisp badger
And really gambling is just a hobby/Side hustle of sorts... I love watching hock...
nice to be able to make money with something related to your passion
lofty depot
Yeyeyeeyeyeyeee
crisp badger
not many can say that they do that
manic monolith
my dream is to not have to work
fervent merlin
Start asking chatgpt everyday for winning lotto numbers till its smart enough to actually predict it
Then win
Ez
manic monolith
or just create a bot to follow nancy pelosi's trading
manic monolith
are you sports betting?
fervent merlin
Xd
crisp scaffold
Life is a bet
manic monolith
the conversation started as you saying you model hockey
crisp badger
what am i looking at, is this how much profit you've earned from these sport bets?
pseudo merlin
Update your bios. Every time this starts happening, I check for bios updates and...
Will check that out thanks. For now Ive just disabled xmp and its still going strong without crashes for 10+ hrs
lofty depot
what am i looking at, is this how much profit you've earned from these sport bet...
Yea, NBA and NHL just wrapped up their playoffa
crisp badger
thats not bad at all
hell the fact that you profit from all of those
pretty damn good
lofty depot
Now time to go make a Twitter and spam like a tout
fervent merlin
$5 Patreon for daily calls
quiet drift
JOIN TELEGRAM
lofty depot
Gotta make a whop and sell Picks and Pics 👀
crisp badger
im not a gambling man but i respect people who put effort into sciencing the shit out of it for an advantage
fervent merlin
I’m all for the support of buying pics
crisp badger
like poker players
mighty mica
that's still further than just using your phone
lofty depot
that's still further than just using your phone
Love poker > online
mighty mica
sports betting has gotten way too fucking easy
lofty depot
Seems very efficient to invest time in
Way less efficient than having a 2nd job
royal zenith
I dunno, if you trynna predict it - why you not 1. already rich or 2. haven't sold the model if it's that good and become rich
lofty depot
sports betting has gotten way too fucking easy
Easy to do or
royal zenith
might as well just get a yob
mighty mica
easy to access
lofty depot
Yea same
royal zenith
or, it's just not worth simulating bets
crisp badger
if you can make a general enough model you can use it forever tm
royal zenith
keyword IF
crisp badger
ye, big if
severe hollow
also true if you build a perpetuum mobile
lofty depot
I dunno, if you trynna predict it - why you not 1. already rich or 2. haven't so...
cuz I started doing the "model" 2 years ago as project to learn how but it's also just reading stats. The model I made and or use is in no way perfect or by itself profitable. there's plenty of problems with mine vs others.
royal zenith
yeah I mean, you do you
but at least check out what the raider.io guy earns a month
and dont compare sports betting to wow simulations again
royal zenith
severe hollow
lofty depot
I mean the bloodmallet guy earns far less and looks so much easier
Need to make my own and tout that shit
lofty depot
How me invest
cloud lion
we should not be top dps in top?
severe hollow
or multiply all the numbers in your sheet by 1000 and open up groups to invite desperate people to scam them out of money
lofty depot
All I see is some coffee link
royal zenith
cloud lion
there is dk talking shit to me cuz starfall was my top dmg in top 19
lofty depot
or multiply all the numbers in your sheet by 1000 and open up groups to invite d...
New strat, scam time
royal zenith
just some dickhead being advocate of the devil
severe hollow
idd
royal zenith
all good
dry compass
You have gone full heel turn since ditching the purple name
fervent merlin
or multiply all the numbers in your sheet by 1000 and open up groups to invite d...
Gold
dry compass
I'm waiting for the paper-style crash out arc
royal zenith
I will never truly offend people, dont be silly
crisp badger
I will never truly offend people, dont be silly
i am truly offended by this
royal zenith
😠
crisp badger
lofty depot
I'm sure we can find a kazzakstanian to get angry
pseudo merlin
Update your bios. Every time this starts happening, I check for bios updates and...
lofty depot
Wait, maybe hytes can be offended
royal zenith
now Im scared to check my bios version
pseudo merlin
Do it
royal zenith
no..
pseudo merlin
It might save your life
lofty depot
Don't listen to people with a name starting with R
pseudo merlin
oh yeah that's decent
lofty depot
American 👀
royal zenith
not by choice
lofty depot
Sureeeeeeeee
pseudo merlin
Every bios is just american megatrends?
orchid ember
Don't listen to people with a name starting with R
100%
pseudo merlin
I've never seen anything else
lofty depot
crisp badger
Don't listen to people with a name starting with R
can confirm
faint dove
Oh my! I have an Asus Rog and it’s had a couple of updates a year usually 😂
lofty depot
I have to do so many delves 😭
pseudo merlin
Also getting 2 implants done, new teeth poggies
What do you Americans pay for implants
lofty depot
Cuz they don't take care of the original ones
tidal jolt
I haven't played much retail since the askmrrobot sim days can someone explain why i'm getting such a low output on top gear? - I feel as though enchants or gems etc must be very wrong to have this ilvl and this low output
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7QJwGMxncntv8pwhmQFyWU
lofty depot
are the changes to the belt live?
Yes
fervent merlin
All ur main set sucks bro
What u want the number to say?
Can’t be mad at the robot for missing 9-10 ilvl
tidal jolt
i just realized its using outdated gear even though i just did /simc
digital berry
I haven't played much retail since the askmrrobot sim days can someone explain w...
What kind of numbers are you expecting
pseudo merlin
i just realized its using outdated gear even though i just did /simc
seems pretty normal dps for that item level and m+ talents
pseudo merlin
with a shit trinkiet
lofty depot
while ur at it fix that
digital berry
You’re doing a st ec sim
Idk what people sim st ec nowadays but definitely not 3 mill
scenic mist
@pseudo merlin did u run hm and mm yet ? got 20min to kill
scenic mist
heroic mode
scenic mist
why would it be hc and nm not be nl ?
scenic mist
im about to flash my bios and brick my pc tho
hf
pseudo merlin
Because its N, HC, M
and HM
LFR, N, HC, M, M0, M+ and HM are wows difficulty modes
scenic mist
Take your mode mythique and shove it up an escargot
they're going too fast
pseudo merlin
ok rebooting
heady herald
Yes
yea it seems that as long as u dont upgrade the belt to 694 the tool tip stays like the old one.
digital berry
So not upgrading it is a 0.6% dps gain
heady herald
maybe?
digital berry
Unless it’s just tooltip
placid trench
hi everybody, I would like to improve as a player so if possible is there anyone that could give me some input on what I can imporve as a semi new balance player? any help would be appreciated
digital berry
hi everybody, I would like to improve as a player so if possible is there anyone...
Just send logs
lofty depot
hi everybody, I would like to improve as a player so if possible is there anyone...
Have u read the guide
placid trench
I have read guides and watched many aswell, but some things are still a bit confusing
lofty depot
What's confusing
placid trench
pooling of AP as an example. of when to do and not do, and when you want to prio having stacks of starlord etc
lofty depot
Prio starlord is very easy
eager raft
pooling of AP as an example. of when to do and not do, and when you want to prio...
you’re pretty much always pooling. The conditions for spending are: to stack starlord, to avoid overcapping, for instant casts during movement
Starlord you want to restack asap when it ends
lofty depot
Because u have infinite asp at the start of incarn. u slam dots enter CDs and have 2 instantly
pseudo merlin
Gg its over, pc wont even post
lofty depot
placid trench
usually just go into pulls in m+ with the mindset of spamming starfall as much as possible. but do you weave a starsurge once in a while? many different takes on this on youtube so im confused
lofty depot
This is cinderbrew, granted an 11 there's far more mobs than 8 that can be dotted
eager raft
usually just go into pulls in m+ with the mindset of spamming starfall as much a...
you only surge in 1 target in m+
lofty depot
usually just go into pulls in m+ with the mindset of spamming starfall as much a...
Starfall is AOE surge is 1 target
Why we weaving?
eager raft
Or if the mobs are just shitters that will die insta like first boss of dfc there’s not much reason to Starfall aside from padding
placid trench
saw a few guides that said alternate to not overcap
lofty depot
lofty depot
saw a few guides that said alternate to not overcap
Alternate surging? In aoe?
digital berry
Find it hard to believe
placid trench
ye thought it sounded bs
placid trench
trying to find the moment this guy says it
lofty depot
"this guy", so it's not the Starfall thing naguura said that confuses people
placid trench
so many star names on druid
digital berry
Tbh I still have to stop and think when I have to name a balance ability
They all sound the same
quiet drift
Are you Moonfiring everything?
placid trench
quiet drift
And youre just not Starfalling
jovial hare
"this guy", so it's not the Starfall thing naguura said that confuses people
What's this wrong thing so I can start doing it
lofty depot
Doesn't seem like it
lofty depot
What's this wrong thing so I can start doing it
Grr no
placid trench
I moonfire what I think is mostly all of the mobs and then sunfire into FoE and incarn
lofty depot
But it's an 11 and I'm not looking at the replay
lofty depot
But ur dotting 4 moonfires at the start of cinderbrew
Which is likely not all the necessary adds
quiet drift
Also some pull on the Ipa room you dotted like 2-3 times which seemed just not correct
Maybe u pulled super small
placid trench
ipa room is usually 3 pulls
so I need to moonfire more, thats a given 🙂 didnt think the dots did that much
quiet drift
They give more dmg to spenders
drifting nova
delete mastery when
placid trench
that makes total sense, im gonna start reading all the tooltips from now on. thats a big oopsie on my part
lofty depot
Well hold on, tooltips lie
scenic mist
that makes total sense, im gonna start reading all the tooltips from now on. tha...
Reading compendium is a better bet
placid trench
compendium?
lofty depot
Pins
scenic mist
The guide pinned
scenic mist
Nw
This ought to be your new bible
placid trench
I will keep it close to my heart
jovial hare
...
meager storm
simming highest after the nerf/buffs 
kind cipher
Is myth track ring with vers/mast better than cyrce if it's -0.1% relative dps? Since cyrce proc might be RNG-ish?
This is 5min 5T
kind cipher
right, so it would theoretically be better to have the static ring that's a statstick right
since cyrce is procs
lofty depot
That's not what that means
kind cipher
oh wait nvm the cyrce gems we run are also flat stats
kind cipher
Yeah i guess 200k more hp
lofty depot
I for one wouldn't wear a vers mastery ring
I would've crafted a haste mastery ring by now
kind cipher
yea kinda trolled with my crafts xd
kind cipher
dont have any leftover
I crafted a lot of pieces that got vault-replaced
unfortunate
next week then
lofty depot
What did u craft that takes up the not 8 slots u craft normally
kind cipher
2h
offhand
shoulder
back
wrist
boots
belt
kind cipher
offhand is for raid
lofty depot
Why r we crafting offhand
kind cipher
more 1T dmg
fervent merlin
Mb with myth 1h
lofty depot
Note to urself don't do that next time 🙂
kind cipher
ye i mean i joined the season late and crafted a bunch of stuff for immediate power gain for M+ pushing
so it probably wouldn't happen again, i expect to play start of season coming up
lofty depot
Making rash decisions, tragic
fervent merlin
Chillen
kind cipher
yea it's all good at least it made me to title
lofty depot
I will not speak
fervent merlin
Friends take u far Artic
kind cipher
oh nah pugged all the way to 18; but having a tank is helpin for 19 20s for sure
it's rough out there in the streets no lie
lofty depot
Friends take u far Artic
My pally wanted to push, with some people in guild cuz we have meta comp gamers
But he got busy
fervent merlin
As mage or boomy
lofty depot
Mage
fervent merlin
Dam u a gamer
lofty depot
Vdh, pally, mage, udk +enh or something
fervent merlin
Tru mage main
lofty depot
Me go back boomkin
dense mirage
Hi!
lofty depot
Hi
fervent merlin
Yuh
dense mirage
Is there a way for me to get the Druid tag next to my name?
fervent merlin
Gotta fight someone for it
kind cipher
you go to profile and select which tag u want; it's a new-er discord option
lofty depot
The same way u put the mushroom on it
dense mirage
That was from an automatic prompt I got when browsing the Deep Rock discord, and that did not happen here.
Thanks for being an ass about it, though.
fervent merlin
dense mirage
Unnecessary, regardless.
fervent merlin
U don’t deserve to wear this nametag
dense mirage
Thank you for your help, Aiolios!
river galleon
Have you guys simmed miniatures already? Thinking if crit with moxie trinket are best combo or versatility one is better (but we lose 5% if we refresh dots so we have to pay attention or maybe there's already weakaura tracker)
signal temple
U don’t deserve to wear this nametag
lofty depot
Have you guys simmed miniatures already? Thinking if crit with moxie trinket are...
I ain't trackn that shit
Also yea sim it they're all close. It's a who cares type shit
cloud plover
simply put mastery and be happy
lofty depot
So true
dense mirage
What type of damage are y’all doing as balance druids?
royal zenith
clearly the person asking cares tho
river galleon
What type of damage are y’all doing as balance druids?
magic
cloud plover
What type of damage are y’all doing as balance druids?
astral and some nature
lofty depot
I'm doing arcane damage
lofty depot
Astral if u will
dense mirage
I mean numbers wise
lofty depot
arctic having problems communicating with humans again
I'm not sure any of u are human
cloud plover
numbers aren't a type
lofty depot
I mean numbers wise
Think the highest is like 3.12?
dense mirage
My bad?
meager storm
could check wowlogs
dense mirage
I clarified
cloud plover
Definitely more than 4
dense mirage
How the fuck
fervent merlin
lofty depot
Highest sim, I should say
dense mirage
I’m doing like between 1-1.3 million
fervent merlin
Oof
cloud plover
well you see
lofty depot
R u level 70 or?
cloud plover
one button rotation may help
royal zenith
you're not being specific whit
fervent merlin
Attitude thing prolly
dense mirage
But I also don’t read about my class or likely do my ideal rotation?
lofty depot
U could play the 1 button rotation
dense mirage
Maybe I’m just a moron
lofty depot
Anything is possible
dense mirage
😐
royal zenith
I can get you removed puppy, you know that right
lofty depot
Can post logs
royal zenith
:)
leaden birch
If u want to learn there's guides u can read.
check pins
lofty depot
Or u can stay vibing and do none of that
cloud plover
I can get you removed puppy, you know that right
OwO NOwO pwease don't wemove me UwU
formal crest
remove the one button rotation
royal zenith
real personality coming out
cloud plover
my real personality is 1000x more cringe than anyone could imagine
royal zenith
Id believe it!!
lofty depot
Idk I see ur name, so I can imagine it
cloud plover
Idk I see ur name, so I can imagine it
based
dense mirage
I never cared about my numbers before, but my casual gamer friend who plays evoker and is like 30 item levels below me seriously out-DPS’d me last night, and I am shook.
cloud plover
I should reroll resto cuz everytime someone asks for ironbark I'd bark in vc
good idea
cloud plover
I never cared about my numbers before, but my casual gamer friend who plays evok...
evoker op
lofty depot
I never cared about my numbers before, but my casual gamer friend who plays evok...
Tell ur friend they play a 2 button spec that a toddler could play
cloud plover
don't let the propaganda affect u
they press button 1 button 2 and do 50 bazillion dps opener
fervent merlin
& play the 1 button without telling them and u win
lofty depot
Ur a savant and boomkin is hard
loud kettle
3 button hard ye
lofty depot
& play the 1 button without telling them and u win
Big if true
cloud plover
Also boomkin undertuned not ur fault ofc
lofty depot
3 button hard ye
At least 1.5x as hard
They cast disintegrate and 5 beams fly out
How do u compete
loud kettle
At least 1.5x as hard
3x as hard, think difficulty is the factorial of buttons pressed
dense mirage
I recently ported the recommended build from WoWhead, and that helped, but man 😢
I miss my convoke the spirits
Even though I can never pop it off in PVP
lofty depot
U can likely play convoke in the keys ur doing 😉
cloud plover
get me out I hate convoke
digital berry
Poppy is weird don’t mind her
lofty depot
cloud plover
hey I press my cooldowns, but also I'm pressing this button that makes me not play the game during my cooldowns
smh
afk 10s channel cast gg
digital berry
Wish it was 10 seconds
cloud plover
void torrent lookin ah
lofty depot
U could make it 3 seconds
digital berry
Void torrent is far more cringe
cloud plover
whenever I see it swipe or thrash or whatever I lose my mind
lofty depot
Thrash big AOE dam
cloud plover
tf u swiping bud
cloud plover
scratch backs not enemies
cloud plover
little puppy big scratcher fr
meager storm
is there a string to give the belt the actual effects instead of charged bolts 
i cant do droptimizer
digital berry
is there a string to give the belt the actual effects instead of charged bolts <...
You can press the lil plus button
Like an embellishment
digital berry
I’ve seen people post strings frfr might be able to find it by searching around here
meager storm
formal crest
mods report for spam
digital berry
mods report for spam
Report this 
maiden pasture
I’ve seen people post strings frfr might be able to find it by searching around ...
Why does it always say I have charged bolts when I stick it in raidbots even when I /simc with the versa one in
digital berry
Why does it always say I have charged bolts when I stick it in raidbots even whe...
Are you using latest ?
maiden pasture
Yep
lucid olive
Why does it always say I have charged bolts when I stick it in raidbots even whe...
Wowhead tooltips issue probably
meager storm
it procs everything, goldrinn, stellar amp, foe cdr
lucid olive
it procs everything, goldrinn, stellar amp, foe cdr
Not Weaver
digital berry
I don’t see a world in which blizz will allow us to be good, assume it’s gonna get nerfed to the ground
lucid olive
Blizzard also said it didn't proc Goldrinn
I'm unsure if it's just visual but I don't think it is
So just Blizzard blue post being dumb
Doesn't proc Weaver and doesn't consume Weaver or Cosmos
meager storm
even if it proc'd weaver i dont think u would play it
torn trout
o7
meager storm
too many wasted gcds on surges and starfalls when u could be just starfiring proccing surges 
hunter too good on ptr, no shot we get nerfed first
lucid olive
Yeah just saying that it proccing Goldrinn is likely a bug
Since their blue post specified it wouldn't and that it would work like the Convoke surges
Does it also give 1 second Hail of Stars?
meager storm
i will be testing it when it goes live
lucid olive
Okay so you're all yap
meager storm
maybe
i will wait for them to fix any bugs then i will raid test
i see them nerfing us if we are too good cuz of bugs, then fixing the bugs and then we are doing tank dmg
digital berry
And then spend the first three patches buffing us ever so slightly to bring us in line with the bottom quarter dps in st
As it’s been for the last 2 years
Still paying for the sins of venthyr boomkin
meager storm
surely this makes it live
lofty depot
Now bamkin be prio targetting
meager storm
casual 7 mil st
lofty depot
Stupid mage gonna complain, and I'm spamming Starfire for surge prio
digital berry
surely this makes it live
We can do 7 mill st too
meager storm
not after 4 mins
meager storm
mm is bursting for over 20 mil
lofty depot
What r u bursting for
meager storm
i will test boomy a single day, if i see potential i go mm 
sandbag
pseudo merlin
@royal zenith dont update your bios. My system is fucked now 😂
limber hare
We still playing haste in the belt or?
teal sphinx
errant flint
Updating my bios was easy just had to follow specific steps. No bricks.
teal sphinx
at what point do you take the crafted ring over Cyre's?
That's the thing, you don't. Hope this helps
cloud plover
at what point do you take the crafted ring over Cyre's?
next season when its nerfed
hope that helps
lofty depot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mdMqWLgJMgY35F7rRmL4ng
When u realize 0.2% is a fake number
The damage is negligible and the stam is bigger
weary berry
obsidian tapir
surley next season bamkin will be on top of ST right 😦 ?
lofty depot
Not likely
obsidian tapir
so again a mage spec on top yey
sage yoke
That's the thing, you don't. Hope this helps
Ty
sage yoke
The damage is negligible and the stam is bigger
Big tru
pallid bay
is it time for OBR EC boomkin
pallid bay
quiet drift
Then you make youtube video "NEW OP HIDDEN OBR BUILD FOR BAMKIN RAID LIBERATION OF UNDERMINE 11.7"
pallid bay
lofty depot
Then you make youtube video "NEW OP HIDDEN OBR BUILD FOR BAMKIN RAID LIBERATION ...
11.7 👀
Big engagement
cloud plover
bamkin raid leader strat obr tech
jovial hare
I bet OBR goes hard on BM
lucid olive
twitch.tv/dsune_ 😎
Ban for self promo..
scarlet tapir
twitch.tv/dsune_ 😎
start making youtube videos
make ai speak for u since u dont like to speak
and put some minecraft parkour on the side
10/10 guides
pallid bay
solar arch
what delve gives static charge?
void jolt
solar arch
Ah ty
inner plover
Happi 
cloud plover
placid pike
quiet drift
gz
inner plover
ty ty not even shite log
cloud citrus
hard to log on that when u skip 2nd add set now >.<
inner plover
fun fight tho, cant wait for next raid tier
placid pike
hard to log on that when u skip 2nd add set now >.<
just pray 3 people die and you get to send a bit
maiden pasture
chat why does my sim say i have charged bolts
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w2oGEAj6vKZhiMZxFLZWKp
when i dont 
cloud citrus
big with simcraft
it wont have the extra id for vers but every other belt upgrade works atm
Put your belt as the haste then go to the belt in the raw input and look for the titan disc id and make it 75 at the end
or just do top gear and add it there
maiden pasture
when fix
lofty depot
chat why does my sim say i have charged bolts
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/re...
Funny sim
Wcyd
maiden pasture
arctic what do i do with my gear
lofty depot
Idk what u mean
cloud plover
arctic what do i do with my gear
vendor it all, start fresh into s3
real experience
serene stone
im back bitches
serene stone
nah
serene stone
scarlet tapir
craaazy hamburger
vital hound
Go to sleep
i was
pseudo merlin
ok fixed pc
where's the french guy
@scenic mist oui oui baguette le raid amirdrassil en mode héroïque?
ou?
digital berry
im back bitches
Now don’t get timed out again
solemn root
anyone knows where could this comes from? the BR thing in the middle of my screen
cloud citrus
Thats causesDB right?
digital berry
anyone knows where could this comes from? the BR thing in the middle of my scree...
Check on wago probably
That is one interesting placement tho ngl
scarlet tapir
anyone knows where could this comes from? the BR thing in the middle of my scree...
what is this engulf weakaura
so bad
digital berry
The amount of visual clutter for information you don’t need to always have access to
scarlet tapir
u dont even need condition check for engulf
most the stuff u need will be auto on if ur not bad
solemn root
i was just asking about the br thing tbh, not asking for the rest lmao
solemn root
looks like some ert/mrt shit
seems like it yeah but can't find out
cloud pewter
Hi everyone, question, I'm very new to Balance, I know the basics of Druid, but here's my question; I don't plan on doing keys higher than maybe 13.. but can Elune's be played in both Raid and M+ and still work alright? Or visa versa, can I play KotG in keys and still provide decent DPS?
I'm just looking to have one singular build to use universally.. Minus swapping a skill or two in the tree.
jovial hare
Kotg is used in all raid situations
vital hound
seems like it yeah but can't find out
use /fstack and mouseover it
jovial hare
In m+ it's more of a trade off with EC being used in much higher keys but KOTG will be fine for you if you aren't going past 12s or 13s
vital hound
should tell ya
jovial hare
Kotg is arguably better in the lower keys imo
cloud pewter
In m+ it's more of a trade off with EC being used in much higher keys but KOTG w...
Okay! Thank you!
jovial hare
Just make sure you check talents for bosses
It will change for a few
Stix specifically
Well mythic anyway
Idk what your raiding lvl is
cloud pewter
Idk what your raiding lvl is
We're working on clearing Heroic at the moment.
solemn root
use /fstack and mouseover it
will check ty
quiet drift
Been doing like 5-7mil with EC
I dont think there is any reason to swap to Kotg
when Starfire is this op
jovial hare
They are talking about rn
Unless that wasn't in response to what was being talked about
opal fulcrum
Am I able to macro BIS to anything?
opal fulcrum
I tried to macro it with incarn and it didnt use it together
pseudo merlin
Show macro
exotic perch
use /use 16
pseudo merlin
/use 16
opal fulcrum
Okie
pseudo merlin
That's a crazy macro tho
lofty depot
/cast [@cursor] Celestial Alignment
lofty depot
dont need incarn in the showtooltip
pseudo merlin
Celestial Alignment
/use 16```Why cursor?
lofty depot
incase we use orbital
opal fulcrum
Oooh
pseudo merlin
lofty depot
usually use trinket before best in slot
opal fulcrum
Is there keys we use OS? Im 3600 exp
pseudo merlin
does anyone know what this button is for in the macro menu
it doesn't actuall do anything?
opal fulcrum
you scared me lmaoo
meager storm
With current set no
lofty depot
Is there keys we use OS? Im 3600 exp
not currently
thats not the point of hte macro tho
bronze tartan
for weeks for dinars the best items in the sim were gally ring and mug trinket... now all of a sudden, it sims 1) best-in-slots (I have crafted) 2) ring 3) mugzee.... I have mugzee hc, but not ring hc (trying hard every week), was planning to grab mugzee (progging on him right now) and then ring mythic at the end, but should I now go for Best-in-Slots instead?
report: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b448HkQxYuiMG2ESuB8qQp
also how does BiS work, do I just do my normal rotation and when I use my trinket, can I also use the weapon, at that time?
pseudo merlin
no there's a 20 sec icd
between all trinkets/on use items
throw these results into a proper top gear sim with variables
if everything still so close together I'd go jastor and hope for a bis drop
but I feel like bis should be way further ahead
bronze tartan
we're not reclearing
pseudo merlin
then just take what sims highest
bronze tartan
idk bis has been simming low for me for ages, like 5,000 dps improvement or so, very minor, and now all of a sudden it's on top
pseudo merlin
throw these results into a proper top gear sim with variables
.
bronze tartan
I mean we might reclear after killing gally in 2-3 weeks but we're taking 300+ pulls for mug'zee, 3% best pull
pseudo merlin
make it an 8 minute aswell
bronze tartan
right, 8 minute better than 5?
I always just simmed my single target raid spec with 5 minutes, default settings
bronze tartan
ah
pseudo merlin
I doubt itl change much but who knows
bronze tartan
ok, so a top gear with my current gear plus the three items I might want to pick, and I'll enable some more settings on trinket variations