balance

[royal zenith]

smh

[delicate perch]

well

[royal zenith]

yeah, well?

[delicate perch]

you can loot heroic jastors

[royal zenith]

[delicate perch]

and could've taken mythic hoc

[royal zenith]

you can also loot all the other items

[delicate perch]

true

I looted jastors from raid this week

[vital hound]

he's probably not looting mythic hoc

[royal zenith]

I dunno, people overthink this shit

[vital hound]

but wcyd

i dont think your capable of le think deuy

[royal zenith]

I just think differently :3

[delicate perch]

wait new deux

[royal zenith]

all about the goals

[delicate perch]

you remind me of someone and I can't remember who

[royal zenith]

uh oh..

[vital hound]

kekkers?

[delicate perch]

[royal zenith]

okay bro

calm down..

[delicate perch]

too far

nah it's that guy that does the insane cyber stalking stuff

10/10 use of free will for good

[round field]

well ur shit at the game so ur opinion doesnt matter

[delicate perch]

yuval

[royal zenith]

Ohhhhh noooooooo

[jade flume]

Jastordn

[vale pebble]

pick what is most contested relative to the dps u will gain

[pseudo merlin]

why did 🦆 change pfp

[signal temple]

They're quacked

[lucid olive]

Deux is hot

[pseudo merlin]

[signal temple]

[pseudo merlin]

pfp changing should be illegal

[hollow mist]

call me a criminal then

[lucid olive]

Lock her up

[signal temple]

[pseudo merlin]

criminal!

[mossy night]

Hey, anyone know where i can get this dot weakaura? Saw it on Tettles video called How World First +19 Cinderbrew Meadery Was Timed!!

[crisp scaffold]

Its some weakra that counts if u have moonfire and sunfire on all targets

https://wago.io/zXYtfH6vF

[pallid bay]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3Lq4Fy35aQ4hPPoBKAVrE8

[jade flume]

Wth

Do i go one batton

[pseudo merlin]

with penalty means the way it's currently implemented right

without penalty is just showing the imperfections compared to sim dps

[pallid bay]

yea

i did add some stuff

[pseudo merlin]

cd usage yeah

[pallid bay]

precasting, CA, pot, trinkets

good build though

[spice roost]

what does the without penalty mean?

[pallid bay]

scroll up

[spice roost]

oh

is this a new build for current patch or next patch i noticed different talents

[pallid bay]

is the highest simming OBR build

[spice roost]

ohhh

[pallid bay]

vexie

bandit

[pseudo merlin]

that's OBR?

[pallid bay]

yea

[pseudo merlin]

kinda crazy

[pallid bay]

i gave up after a while, its like very annoying if you care about what it does

like it will just random send things

convoke with sunfire expiring

[pseudo merlin]

so ive heard

out of form convokes too

out of ca

[pallid bay]

starfall on mugzee

[jade flume]

Its like watching someone else play and see them do dumb shit without being able to correct it

[pallid bay]

cast starfire when it will end outside of eclipse

guessing spellqueue causing it to enter lunar on single target

[jade flume]

What do you cast if starfire will end outside of eclipse but wrath would still be in eclipse

As EC

[lucid olive]

Starfall

[jade flume]

Starfire still right?

[pallid bay]

wrath

[jade flume]

Even as EC?

[pallid bay]

yeah who cares

[lucid olive]

Remove corruption

[delicate perch]

ya

[pseudo merlin]

So you'd rather send a dry wrath inside EC eclipse than let STF land outside of it and then wrath to get back in

[pallid bay]

just flap until eclipse is over

[lucid olive]

Based

[pallid bay]

yea

that starfire will just feel shitty

[fossil hemlock]

I doubt it's a big difference either way, but doing 3 wraths also lets you keep dreamstate for next lunar eclipse

[pallid bay]

not proc anything

[pseudo merlin]

Preferably to both would probably be to SF or dot right?

[pallid bay]

and what keleb said

[pseudo merlin]

ya thats true I guess

[lucid olive]

Maybe different next season considering the Starfire could proc tier

[pallid bay]

thats only in eclipse or

i think i read that

[fossil hemlock]

I think only requirement is that it gives AsP

[pallid bay]

[fossil hemlock]

Unless someone tested it and it's a requirement that isn't mentioned on the bonus itself

[pallid bay]

whats the tierset

gamz has a link

[pseudo merlin]

Did anyone test if overcapping counts

[pallid bay]

thats OP..

[pseudo merlin]

Probably not right

[fossil hemlock]

I believe that was tested, yeah

[pseudo merlin]

otherwise why would it be written

[craggy sonnet]

Here

[pallid bay]

starfire OP..

whats starfire sp mod gamz

[lucid olive]

No clue

[pallid bay]

[pseudo merlin]

?????

[lucid olive]

I haven't found the tier sets on spelldatadump either

[pallid bay]

whats starfire spellID

found it..

[lucid olive]

I'm on phone so

Not home till Thursday

[pallid bay]

0.89

[pseudo merlin]

SOD starfall goes hard af

[fossil hemlock]

That's just wrath/cata starfall

[pallid bay]

2.96/4

[fossil hemlock]

Possibly MoP too

[lucid olive]

Dryad's Favor on spelldatadump is just mentioned as a mod to Starsurge with a spellID but doesn't seem to have its own entry when I checked

[fossil hemlock]

I can't remember when they first changed it to not be ST striking

[pallid bay]

0.89*2+0.74

2.52..

[spice roost]

sry if this is a dumb question but do u think the change to lycras talent for boomie makes a difference much in raid next tier

[pseudo merlin]

no

[fossil hemlock]

3% avoidance for almost free

[lucid olive]

You'll probably take it I guess

[pallid bay]

5.368..

[lucid olive]

Starfire cranks

[vital hound]

oba is the most motivated ive seen sune

in a year

[pallid bay]

2.96*2=5.92

need more mods..

[fossil hemlock]

Did you drop lunation for arcane affinity?

[pallid bay]

[fossil hemlock]

3% surely is good

[lucid olive]

Arcane affinity...

[pallid bay]

2.96*1.08=3.1968

[lucid olive]

Idk what to feel about Lunation on PTR tbh, you end up just sending FoE on 2 stacks of 4pc constantly

[pallid bay]

3.4011..

so starfire is better than surge if not in CA

cool

actually have to account for mastery

[pseudo merlin]

what

[pallid bay]

cause astral spell

[pseudo merlin]

surely not right

are we going to just have a vanilla rotation

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/war-gif-20802502

[fossil hemlock]

Well surely with the 2p spawning surges and 4p giving a damage increase you'd at least want to starfall to dump AsP

[lucid olive]

Guess you just spend AP for 2pc procs tbh, Stellar Amp, Goldrin etc

[fossil hemlock]

Question then is surge for ST damage or starfall for moderately faster dump

[pallid bay]

does the procced surge proc everything?

[lucid olive]

The 2pc Starsurge procs the same things as a regular Starsurge except for Weaver

[pallid bay]

gg

[zinc berry]

hello i have a question about incap spell is there a macro that would allow me to cast incap and returns me directly to boomer form ?

[pseudo merlin]

And you'd still want to surge for SL

[lucid olive]

But only the one on main target

[pallid bay]

who cooked

[lucid olive]

No they are both on GCD

So you need a GCD of wait time

[lucid olive]

The 2pc procs stack it

Only thing it doesn't do is proc weaver

[pseudo merlin]

oh right

[fossil hemlock]

Still waiting to see if it's intended for each of the cleaving surges to give lunation CDR

[pseudo merlin]

this is about to be turbo degen

[lucid olive]

You just spend so you can get 2pc procs

[pallid bay]

no way this is the case

[lucid olive]

Think Cosmos is also trash

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah that's the conclusion we have in guardian too

[zinc berry]

so i assume it would be the same whit frenzied regen ?

[pallid bay]

like do they actually test anything

or just like

idk

[lucid olive]

Yes

[pallid bay]

how do u implement anything without testing

[quiet drift]

Come play PTR!

[pallid bay]

i will not

[quiet drift]

Be our slaves!

[pallid bay]

i tried copy keybinds

[zinc berry]

thx

[lucid olive]

Lunation procs of procs so it makes sense

[pallid bay]

alt f4 after 5 min

[quiet drift]

We will NOT pay for QA department

[lucid olive]

Myslot..

[quiet drift]

also buy this mount

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah but it's an extra 9 seconds of CDR per proc which is wild

[pallid bay]

like the tier makes no sense

in current iteration

[quiet drift]

Wdym

Starfire funny?

[lucid olive]

Lunation also procs from Orbital Strike applied flares

[quiet drift]

Its so nice

[pallid bay]

infinite loop of shit

[lucid olive]

You can completely reset FoE CD on enough targets with OS

[quiet drift]

⭐

[fossil hemlock]

Very good 2p and flashing claws procs for guardian means you can just delete the lunar beam CD in a single thrash

[pallid bay]

like u want to starfire to proc surges

but u need to spend surges to proc surges

[lucid olive]

That's fucked

[pallid bay]

but you gain cdr

so u need to press foe

[fossil hemlock]

I mean very good RNG

[pallid bay]

which generates ap

[fossil hemlock]

Oh I forgot boomkin has different lunation CDR

Only 2 seconds

[pallid bay]

ICD on lunation

[fossil hemlock]

Lunar beam is 3 seconds so each thrash from flashing claws is 3 seconds (up to 18 on the highest of rolls), and each 2p proc would be another 12 seconds, and 2p can proc from each flashing claws

[pallid bay]

its silly it dosnt have any

[lucid olive]

And you want the 2pc to proc a lot to stack the 4pc and spend the FoE when it gives good DMG amp, but FoE CD is so low that you just end up sending on low stacks

[pallid bay]

[fossil hemlock]

What if no more lunar calling because 2p gives enough CDR?

[lucid olive]

And if you use Full Moon instead it does 0 dam

[pallid bay]

you'd want lunar calling for starfire + 2p

[fossil hemlock]

Shit, you're right

[lucid olive]

Wonder how they're gonna nerf keeper..

[fossil hemlock]

Hopefully by not making the dryad the best way to spend the gigasurges

[scenic mist]

have dryad's favor last 20sec

or less

[lucid olive]

That's not going to stop me from sending 100 mil crit Starsurge..

[scenic mist]

dont u need 3 CA to do that ?

[fossil hemlock]

I didn't get around to testing, but does the dryad surges also inherit the splash from 4p or only the damage increase?

[fossil hemlock]

Depends on how big you pull

[scenic mist]

yeah ST speaking

i couldnt get to the dryad's cap in 1 CA on ST

6.8M cap

dunno if the cap if gear dependant btw

[lucid olive]

No I just sent 1..

[scenic mist]

aoe then

right ?

[lucid olive]

Think maybe the dummies in Boralus are funny

[fossil hemlock]

They are

[vital hound]

does holding till 6 not work out

math

[lofty depot]

No u can fit 2 surges in between the end of dryad and the end of ca

[pallid bay]

hmm starsurge has too many mods..

[lofty depot]

Hmmm

[pallid bay]

hmm

need to account for smolder..

sounds annoying

[lofty depot]

Yepp back to flare

[pallid bay]

umbral as well

[lofty depot]

Orbital strike surely

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-yap-yapper-yapping-gif-5642199211123099306

[lofty depot]

😭

[pallid bay]

whats this

i thought it could proc everything

@lucid olive lier?

[lofty depot]

@lucid olive liur?

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/cheering-minions-despicable-me-cheer-gif-4968109

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-edgy-kiwi-discord-slurp-gif-25277998

[fossil hemlock]

This sucks, imagine throwing out 4 doggos at once

[lofty depot]

Imagine getting 0

And then r1 is better

[quiet drift]

I am NOT speccing Goldrin in m+

[lofty depot]

That's what u think

[lucid olive]

I've for sure had the Goldrinn wolf fly out from the proc..

[pallid bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/370236266530471937/1385947616252133387/ApplicationFrameHost_qPhh1RtBEK.gif

unintended..

how do i smolder

i dont wanna

[lucid olive]

Fckn blizzard

[lofty depot]

We're buggin'

[lucid olive]

Also see it proc from a Starfire outside of Eclipse there

Cause 200 ping on PTR

Hadn't even read the development notes on the tier sets so didn't know that wasn't intentional

[pallid bay]

somewhere here there's a minor calculation error

hmm u cant calculate umbral like this

[vivid dagger]

hi guys sorry if this question has been asked before but i cant find it anywhere, how do I sim for m+?

[pseudo merlin]

1t5m or MDT

[lucid olive]

FAQ part in Compendium guide linked in pins and channel description

Also what Ravec said

[vivid dagger]

tyty

[pallid bay]

starfire might be too good

[royal zenith]

never too good...

[pseudo merlin]

change back pfp

[lucid olive]

Deux you're staring into my soul

I might change pfp to annoy Ravec..

[pseudo merlin]

Change it back to your OG pfp

it was better

sorry not sorry

[fossil hemlock]

Deux reminds me a bit of Ben Barnes

[lucid olive]

You don't even remember my og pfp..

I had 2 before the Boondocks one

[pseudo merlin]

no shot

boondocks is og

[lucid olive]

Had this for a while..

For years actually

[pseudo merlin]

before my time maybe

[lucid olive]

Love Mr Rogers

I saw the Minecraft movie last night

Man that was some dogshit

[pseudo merlin]

CHICKEN JOCKY

[royal zenith]

never

[lucid olive]

First we mine and then we craft

[royal zenith]

get used to this new personality

I have reformed

I'm even meaner now...

[pseudo merlin]

not possible

[lofty depot]

Reformed ur brain or

Or is it more deformed now

[lucid olive]

Arctic rude

[royal zenith]

If there's anything I'm sure of

that there's nothing wrong with my brain

projecting much

[lucid olive]

Idk you play evoker..

[royal zenith]

I play every class

I play WoW

[lofty depot]

Oh there's plenty wrong with mine :/

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

But we call that trauma

[lucid olive]

Yeah definitely something wrong with the brain then..

[royal zenith]

brain needs entertainmen

t

seems natural to me

[lucid olive]

WoW the dopamine machine

[royal zenith]

need new ptr build

so I can see @pseudo merlin make up stuff again...

[lofty depot]

No new build until after first week of testing surely

[pseudo merlin]

????????

what did I make up

Gamz was making shit up

😠

[lucid olive]

Yeah hope they don't push class changes until first raid testing is over so people can draw conclusions on how balancing will look like in 2 months based on random raid testing

[royal zenith]

that's true

[cloud plover]

chat how do i get 7/8M so i can buy stuff with dinars

[lucid olive]

Get friends

[royal zenith]

buy a boost

[pseudo merlin]

get 8/8m and work your way back

[royal zenith]

don't sit in a discord

for starters

[lofty depot]

Well I meant after the first week which is this week

[pseudo merlin]

Just pug it?

[royal zenith]

especially not as a priest main

in #balance

[cloud plover]

ill have u know my balance druid has resil keys now

[lofty depot]

Buy it or a join a guild that needs a druid

[cloud plover]

i worked up to this in a week

its a giga big chad now

[royal zenith]

just buy a boost

it's not that expensive

[pseudo merlin]

I can sell you 8/8 for 10m

[royal zenith]

and if you think it's expensive, do you REALLY want that gear?

[cloud plover]

what do we consider not that expensive here

[pseudo merlin]

we have a spot for sunday i think

[cloud plover]

cuz like

i have 1.2m total

and i need a token for my sub 😭

[pseudo merlin]

just get 8x more that and you'll be good

[royal zenith]

yeah then you're not meant to have that gear

try again next tier

[cloud plover]

unlucky

i have 2 chars on 8/8m but sadly my balance wasnt part of that yet

[lofty depot]

Get ur guild to carry u or

[cloud plover]

guild stopped raiding for now cuz burnt out

ptr only gamers now..

[lofty depot]

Join a new one

[cloud plover]

i just joined them

smh

[lofty depot]

Burnt out, fuggn pussies

[cloud plover]

fr imagine being burnt out

[lucid olive]

I got 8/8 on 3 different specs truly it's just a skill issue Puppy

[lofty depot]

That's like 1/3 of the keys I did week 1

[pallid bay]

holy shit based tree

[cloud plover]

week 1 is week 1

[lucid olive]

OBR?

[pallid bay]

ye

[lofty depot]

Drop cats for incarn surely

[lucid olive]

For Convoke

[lofty depot]

Clue

Convoke doesn't cast starfire

[cloud plover]

do u guys use muggers juggers

[lucid olive]

Yes

[cloud plover]

i remember like 2 months ago i was told boomies dont use it as bis

but idk how real that was

[lofty depot]

Who said that

[cloud plover]

someone in my prev guild

that played bumbokin

[lofty depot]

Feel free to never listen to them again

And in the future don't listen to ur guildies. They're likely regarded

[jade flume]

It probably wont be bis next tier

Maybe homie is just ahead

[lucid olive]

Crazy

[cloud plover]

unlucky

so not worth buying wax if theres ever a chance i get mythic done on this

[lucid olive]

I wonder if the staff+trinket 2set next season will be better than crafting a staff

[jade flume]

If ur a bamkin u arent getting those anyways

[lofty depot]

Yea crafts gonna be weird next tier me thinks

[jade flume]

Its gon go to real specs

[lofty depot]

No cape, no belt, no boots, no weapon,

[fossil hemlock]

So put the staff and trinket on my dryad

Why no belt?

[lucid olive]

There's a one hander that interacts with the trinket too so maybe craft offhand with ascension

[fossil hemlock]

Surely DISC is replaced by hero gear

Or at least myth

[cloud plover]

u can craft wrist belt no issue probably

disc is weak af now

[lofty depot]

Surely

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah DISC is only what like a 2% increase or something at 700?

[pallid bay]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/25UKn2BqWiciH47VyRmb6z

[lucid olive]

And doesn't have the cringe infinite scaling shit that Circlet had

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah

[jade flume]

Man 2% is like 100k dps if ur a pumper

[fossil hemlock]

And actual mainstat

[pallid bay]

oh wait

its never using CA

[fossil hemlock]

So the slot scales with ilvl

[lucid olive]

I like how the penalty doesn't fuckin matter for EC

[eager raft]

y sim it without gcd penalty

[cloud plover]

disc was 701 or so max right

[lofty depot]

Think so

[lucid olive]

Without gcd penalty is the assist mode that just highlights your next cast

[pallid bay]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nbwFkuFk5t9GkEF1MccNeU

[cloud plover]

well that experiment failed

[pallid bay]

sus

[lucid olive]

Show this to everyone who yaps about dreamstate or firmament minmaxing..

[pallid bay]

@lofty depot

[lofty depot]

Just wait til I see a mother fuck not sending 2 surges at the end of CA 🙂

We're so back "wrong opener" is ready

[cloud plover]

i have plausibly bad news

[lofty depot]

Some of us already knew this surely

[cloud plover]

surely im talking to someone who didnt (alongside me)

smh

[lofty depot]

Aurely

[cloud plover]

[lofty depot]

I'll reitterate

Depending on the heroic level of th weapon + trinket combo

[cloud plover]

craft offpiece + wrist and be happy

[leaden birch]

guys what do I do

do I get hoc or jug with my next dinars

[calm ibex]

Sim

[leaden birch]

they're both pretty much the exact same upgrade lol

[cloud plover]

i heard bandit is almost puggable... surely...

[calm ibex]

Then dealers choice

[lofty depot]

Wrists + neck or some shit

Good ring from HOA

[cloud plover]

if balance has a good neck embel probably possible

[lofty depot]

Idk if there's a neck

[calm ibex]

Mythic bandit is not puggable lmao

I mean if sprocket was then maybe

[lofty depot]

Nah just use the vers duskthread thing

[cloud plover]

thats the thing u cant put that on neck

[calm ibex]

^

[leaden birch]

I'd be blown away if oab was puggable

[calm ibex]

Sprocket is the pug killer there

[lofty depot]

Oh....... Can u only put lens on it?

[calm ibex]

Yeah

[lofty depot]

Lens it is

[cloud plover]

yeah basically

[calm ibex]

You can only put the vers stuff on armor

[cloud plover]

lens or null stone but null stone is

[lofty depot]

Unless they make cool new ones

What about that cool neck with all the buffs

Yeayea

[calm ibex]

Hope we replace disc at heroic

So we just use belt and wrists

[lofty depot]

Go ahead and look at the sim above

[cloud plover]

i feel like ive seen this conversation before

[cloud plover]

who knows maybe my bad ilvl makes it better than it should.. or sum

copiumge

[lofty depot]

U can change all the pieces ilvl

[calm ibex]

They could nerf it

[lofty depot]

They just did :/

[calm ibex]

Shit you’re right

Gg no belt replace

[lofty depot]

60% big gamer shit

[royal zenith]

what's wrong with the belt?

literally zero effort for bis gear

[lofty depot]

People don't like wearing "last tier items"

[royal zenith]

while you all complain a bout dinars

[cloud plover]

20 ilvl lower not fun

[royal zenith]

yeah how about

[cloud plover]

:(

[royal zenith]

you

grow up

ever thought about that

[cloud plover]

make it go up to 723

[lofty depot]

Based take deux

[cloud plover]

then cool

[lofty depot]

Then u'll complain next tier

[calm ibex]

Lmao

[cloud plover]

next tier new expansion

[lofty depot]

And or at the end of the tier

[cloud plover]

no biggie

shit aint gonna last into that..

[lofty depot]

How do u know....

That's my bis leveling gear

Pre bis mythic 0 gear

Get fucked bud

[cloud plover]

yo my haste or yo my mastery...

[lofty depot]

Yo my sim it dork

[cloud plover]

god the stats on all these items are so juicy

[cloud citrus]

neither get a crafted

[cloud plover]

2nd one is required bis ring obviously

[lofty depot]

Not my bis, so it's not

Also, yea there's no heavy mastery low haste neck

[cloud plover]

you will acquire dmg reduction or be oneshot

[lucid olive]

New dungeon has a good on use trinket

Can't wait to not get that first week

[lofty depot]

Doubt it

Rashii wrap save me

[lucid olive]

At least won't have to play around 2m Signet for another tier

[calm ibex]

Surely

[lofty depot]

Ur not lucky enough to get the int trinket

Sorry bud

[royal zenith]

play around a 2minute trinket with your 2minute convoke?

that's what bothers you?

[fossil hemlock]

How will Rashii wrap save you

[cloud plover]

its okay to have low crit high mastery

dont hate on crit

[lofty depot]

Wrong

[cloud plover]

mug jug isnt here to save u for another season

[lofty depot]

Why do I need Crit, when I have 50% already

[lucid olive]

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/item=242494/lily-of-the-eternal-weave

[craggy sonnet]

with embell surely its better

[cloud plover]

plausibly

[lucid olive]

Mastery buff on use lasts 15 sec at 1:30 cd

That's my bis

[cloud plover]

excuse you, self-harm trinket and voidcore will be ur bis and you will like it

[lofty depot]

Do not self harm

[royal zenith]

didnt spriest get a rework

[lofty depot]

Yes

[royal zenith]

isn't there more to yap about there @ puppy

[fossil hemlock]

"rework"

[lofty depot]

Void torrent gone, big rework

[cloud plover]

im taking a break from priest discord

[royal zenith]

[fossil hemlock]

[eager raft]

Is that deux from the dreamgrove

[craggy sonnet]

also .. did you sim the belt with bolts?

[lofty depot]

No that deux from the cyon corner

[craggy sonnet]

cause that shit is getting nuked anyways

[royal zenith]

different one

[cloud plover]

no this one is uhh, mastery cuz thats what mine is atm

[royal zenith]

I'm the real deux

[craggy sonnet]

ok

[lucid olive]

Bullied out by @wraith kiln gg...

[eager raft]

Is that deux from my dreams

[lofty depot]

Tradu always bullying

[cloud plover]

it was actually @steel vault gg

[calm ibex]

This discords cooler anyways

[cloud plover]

i heard u guys bullied @wraith kiln out though

Gg

[lofty depot]

Gamz does

[eager raft]

Yea this one has deux

[lucid olive]

Cap, this discord doesn't have FAQ channels..

[cloud plover]

the biggest L of this discord

unfortunately

[eager raft]

no wrong it’s a W

Weux

[wraith kiln]

I've only (accidentally) nuked 1 person (allegedly), and it's not Nina

[royal zenith]

can you try again

[cloud plover]

(confirmed and real)

[pallid bay]

orange name..

mods

[lucid olive]

Orange name and like 4 messages in 2025..

[wraith kiln]

Owned noobs

[royal zenith]

should we purge?

[pallid bay]

yea

[lofty depot]

He plays osrs

[lucid olive]

Those are Bora numbers and he's green name..

[royal zenith]

@mighty mica can we put forward another set of purge

[pallid bay]

thyme will deal with it..

[royal zenith]

s

including arctic

[eager raft]

perma arctic

[lofty depot]

Do it

[wraith kiln]

I already told Xan to just decolor me tbf

[lofty depot]

So then I can start the wrong opener meta again

[royal zenith]

yeah but xan's a busy man

no hate

[eager raft]

W glaze

[royal zenith]

we got a servertag within 2 days

[lucid olive]

But then you won't be able to interact with all the American sports chatter in the hidden channel..

[eager raft]

Don’t get me started

On this dog shit server tag

[vale pebble]

get started

[royal zenith]

[wraith kiln]

Retired can still see

[lucid olive]

Yeah that chat is perma white names..

[lofty depot]

They only talk about baseball in the playoffs :/

[eager raft]

idiot deux stole MY idea then started asking in feral and guardian chat about it

[lofty depot]

Didn't talk about hockey :/

[royal zenith]

what else is there to talk about

[lucid olive]

Give me expert only channel to flame Arctic

[eager raft]

and then they make some stupid tag no one will use

[royal zenith]

misinformation about goldrinn proccing?

[eager raft]

Instead of the good one I wanted

[royal zenith]

is that what you want to see more of?!

[lucid olive]

What misinformation

[lofty depot]

I get flamed everywhere, expert channel is probably the only safe haven

[lucid olive]

Oh the one blizzard posted

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

QA team gg

[lucid olive]

What about the pay2win yellow name channel

[lofty depot]

That 3 people talked in life time

Yea surely

[cloud plover]

I should get purple to ban deux and then it can be taken away again

[royal zenith]

Ya'll focus way too much on wanting to feel special

[lucid olive]

If anyone should get purple it's @pallid bay

[pallid bay]

ill smite puppy

[vale pebble]

dont get me started on that oi guy...

[cloud plover]

yes da-

what

[vale pebble]

i have too much shade on him for him to get purple

[pallid bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/953401850470735883/1378850759155646564/catto.gif

[lofty depot]

He's not in shade, that's dakd

[lucid olive]

Oi is organized hatewatcher

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/detective-daffy-investigate-police-looney-tunes-gif-17130539

[vale pebble]

^hes looking for who asked

[lofty depot]

He'll find it eventually

[eager raft]

I’m gonna expose you

[royal zenith]

don't see a reason why you should but sure, I guess?

[lofty depot]

Still waiting on paper to expose all the dgers

[eager raft]

follow me @DeuxExposed

[jade flume]

Is it a details name again

[royal zenith]

me being exposed by respectable means sharing the dm's where I laugh about me timing him out

[lofty depot]

That would be a good laugh

[eager raft]

unfortunately the only thing I have to expose deux for is being a good friend

[lofty depot]

Deux would never do that, but it would be funny

Respectable was probably crying in dm tho

That's on jah

[royal zenith]

true

[eager raft]

definitely not

[lucid olive]

What if you had a picture of Deux ripping a slur

Cancelled?

[eager raft]

I think word for word I said “alright that’s enough unban me” on day 2 of a 7 day ban

[calm ibex]

Which one

[lucid olive]

Damn I was gonna ping Luds but he's not here anymore..

[eager raft]

You’d never have a picture like that because he doesn’t use that kind of language

[calm ibex]

You could say, he’s…. Respectable

[eager raft]

No he is deux

[calm ibex]

Listen

[eager raft]

It’s French for 2

[calm ibex]

I’m tired I thought it was funny

[eager raft]

Hahahah

[calm ibex]

No way I don’t believe you

[eager raft]

Deux fr*nch????

[calm ibex]

French isn’t real

[lofty depot]

Maybe he's American and can't spell ducks

[royal zenith]

maybe all of the above

[pseudo merlin]

🦆

[jade flume]

Man i just realised

I have no idea what bamkin tier set even does lmao

[pseudo merlin]

current?!?

[jade flume]

Ye

[pseudo merlin]

something with mushrooms

[lucid olive]

Gives some more AP on random procs and makes your spenders do more dam

[calm ibex]

It’s so passive I bet a lot of people forget

[lucid olive]

Starfall got mega nerfed this tier because it was too good

And then we lose tier set..

[pallid bay]

its ok

surge will cleave

[lucid olive]

We press Starfire instead

[pallid bay]

certified streamer propaganda

[lucid olive]

Well only the free procced Starsurge will cleave

Spend Starfall to not overcap and keep pressing Starfire

[pseudo merlin]

do mushrooms fuck with cc

or is it just me

[golden belfry]

Yes

[pseudo merlin]

🙂

[golden belfry]

Will fuck with cc, pull revelers, great time

[lucid olive]

Also slows..

[pseudo merlin]

we went from 1x a month to like 7x a day now

🙂

Love this game

[scenic mist]

You under dX12 or 11 ?

[pseudo merlin]

I heard it's because wow just fucking despises any motherboard level OC settings

[scenic mist]

True but in my xp dX12 is aggravating factor

[pseudo merlin]

im on 12

swapping to 11

[scenic mist]

Try 11, and/or going from full screen to windowed
Worked for me

[pseudo merlin]

if I crash once, I'm coming to find you

oh gee

thanks

now my game looks like this

I have nobody to blame but myself

Why would I trust a french

[lucid olive]

Lmao you got greend

[scenic mist]

Restart your game lmao

[pseudo merlin]

I dont trust you

[scenic mist]

All I see is your game telling you to go UH rather than blood

[pseudo merlin]

nah im broadening my horizons

[quiet drift]

looking whimsical

https://tenor.com/view/seal-seals-harp-seal-white-seal-confetti-gif-15046235054217139568

[river ether]

Im bying mythic house of cards tommorow - it should always be paired with incarn right?

[pseudo merlin]

[cloud plover]

pair it with ur uhh, ur wraths, init?

[severe hollow]

looks perfect

[tawdry trellis]

So vers seems to be simming ahead on the belt? O.o Once I log in I'll sim my toon to see what I want

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[jade flume]

In raid you would use it with ur big pamp so trees+incarn+convoke

On any fight where you use convoke ofc

[lofty depot]

Incarn and convoke, hmm

[jade flume]

Yep

[pseudo merlin]

Full clairvoyants group signed up to my key

@scenic mist nah it happened again

[scenic mist]

update drivers, burn a candle

bargain with Xal'

[charred widget]

so after the new belt update what thingy are we running?

[scenic mist]

pins

[charred widget]

my sims say that bolts are bis still ;-; i wonder if their values are updated yet

[lofty depot]

R u on weekly

[turbid crypt]

mine is still charged bolts as well on nightly

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hRaY13PwarMTE92MsGqysp

[loud kettle]

Don't think its in sim yet for some reason

Is it in game

[round field]

No

Next reset

Oh wait its tuesday..

[empty girder]

Should we just go ahead and use static charge?

[turbid crypt]

i'll wait to see if there is any changes in next 3 hours or so

[jolly mantle]

How does one Macro BiS into things? Just below your trinket in Incarn so it pops on the second? or?

[turbid crypt]

I did mine on the second incarn because /use 16 is after the trinket slot

[scenic mist]

i just have BIS as a regular bind

[turbid crypt]

but i also have it on the side because you'll pass on BiS

as it recharges faster than your CA

[hearty hedge]

any comments on how to sim for m+ as boomie?

[pseudo merlin]

There's info on it in the compendium in the pins

[hearty hedge]

Is it this "current APL" thing?

[mighty mica]

no, it's in the FAQ section "how do i sim for m+"

[hearty hedge]

got it! thanks

[lofty depot]

think mim has it no?

[hearty hedge]

kind of an anti climatic answer lol

[loud kettle]

Its not in game so gg

[lofty depot]

tragic

[digital berry]

using latest sims none of the other disc powers sim higher then charged bolts

did i do smth wrong

[loud kettle]

tuning isnt in game

not in game = not in sim

[digital berry]

wasnt it supposed to be live this week?

[loud kettle]

yep

[leaden birch]

thanks blizz

[turbid crypt]

they be playing with our hearts

[errant flint]

I don’t have a great 2nd trinket choices at the moment. Just HoC and this myth gigazap thing. Does gigazap pull stuff out of combat?

[lucid olive]

But blizzard would never announce tuning and then not put it in the game right

Or what do you think, feral player?

[turbid crypt]

seems quite a bit different compared to wowhead's numbers of what it should be >.>

[lucid olive]

Tooltips are fake

[scenic mist]

do we actually live inside a raidbot simulation ?

[lucid olive]

Yes

What is in tooltips and what is in game can be very different

[loud kettle]

So true bestie

[lucid olive]

How many weeks did it take for the feral tuning to get in

2?

[dry compass]

You'd think there would be some robust system for updating tooltips when fiddling with abilities

Nah, too complicated

[loud kettle]

Ya

[lucid olive]

The department that handles tooltips, the department that handles tuning and the department that handles communicating in blue posts are different

Lots of communication lost between them

[dry compass]

Blizz never heard of a Gantt chart smh

[lofty depot]

Blizzard is basically the US gov

[cloud citrus]

SimC not putting the verse titan disc id in anyone know how to find it other then just placing random numbers at the end all the ids are quite spread out 12362109-12362278

[loud kettle]

I can tell u if u can prove ur not a terrorist

[cloud citrus]

i have 2 RIGHT hands

[loud kettle]

hmm that's very not SpongeBob squarepants of u

I get spellids with idtip

or are u trying to override values

[cloud citrus]

its not the spellid though its using a different id id assume its using override value

SimC just doesnt do vers it does all the others

[loud kettle]

well the dmg/stat values come from belt

[cloud citrus]

ill give an example

[loud kettle]

think the first effect id is like 1231848 or smth

[cloud citrus]

Durable Information Securing Container (694) Haste

waist=,id=245964,gem_id=213482,bonus_id=12531/1482,titan_disc_id=1236273

Durable Information Securing Container (694) Charged BOlts

waist=,id=245964,gem_id=213482,bonus_id=12531/1482,titan_disc_id=1236109

Durable Information Securing Container (694) Verse

waist=,id=245964,gem_id=213482,bonus_id=12531/1482, titan_disc_id=124

Verse has no titan disc ID and its not using spell id anywhere else

but the difference between them is like 400 numbers

i dont wanna try all 400 numbers

but if noone haz off the top of their heads ill just do it

[loud kettle]

copy=Charged_Bolts
waist=durable_information_securing_container,id=245964,titan_disc_id=1236109,ilevel=701,gem_id=213497

copy=Cauterizing_Bolts
waist=durable_information_securing_container,id=245964,titan_disc_id=1236122,ilevel=701,gem_id=213497

copy=Critical_Chain
waist=durable_information_securing_container,id=245964,titan_disc_id=1236272,ilevel=701,gem_id=213497

copy=Spark_Burst
waist=durable_information_securing_container,id=245964,titan_disc_id=1236273,ilevel=701,gem_id=213497

copy=Static_Charge
waist=durable_information_securing_container,id=245964,titan_disc_id=1236275,ilevel=701,gem_id=213497

copy=Charged_Touch
waist=durable_information_securing_container,id=245964,titan_disc_id=1236277,ilevel=701,gem_id=213497

copy=Energy_Shield
waist=durable_information_securing_container,id=245964,titan_disc_id=1236278,ilevel=701,gem_id=213497

copy=Charged_Crystal
waist=durable_information_securing_container,id=245964,titan_disc_id=1236279,ilevel=701,gem_id=213497

copy=Electric_Current
waist=durable_information_securing_container,id=245964,titan_disc_id=1236961,ilevel=701,gem_id=213497

[cloud citrus]

thankey friend

[pallid bay]

The Department of Tooltips

[lucid olive]

Put "lead designer of tooltips" on your LinkedIn..

[lofty depot]

"artist of xal'atah feet"

[loud kettle]

its in game now btw

and in sim latest

[lofty depot]

"and in sim latest" or do u mean... It's in sim at least so it should be in game

[lucid olive]

Latest not at least

[loud kettle]

its in both ye

[lucid olive]

Fucking arctic..

[lofty depot]

It autocorrected

New phone not used to dg chat

[loud kettle]

I prefer dyslexia

[lucid olive]

What phone

[lofty depot]

Pixel 9

[lucid olive]

W

[loud kettle]

Probably types leyatd or something

[lofty depot]

I had a pixel 2 for 8 years 🙂

[digital berry]

Are we sure that the nerfs are not online ? Other discords and people testing are coming up with lower numbers then last week

[lofty depot]

Dropped that bitch so much never cracked

I will never not have a pixel me think

[loud kettle]

they hotfixed it a bit ago

[lucid olive]

Been using a Pixel 7 Pro for like 2-3 years now, best phone I've had

[lofty depot]

"other discords" hm

[loud kettle]

It wasnt live when I said it wasnt live

And is live now

[lucid olive]

It's in sims now, if the numbers are different than what people have been simming them as in the last week it can be that Blizzard missed on their math, which happens

Blizzard announces % tuning
TCer sims with overrides for the number they're announcing the tuning as
Blizzard ignores announced number and makes some shit up when they push it live

[leaden birch]

am I simming nightly or latest

[lucid olive]

Latest

Always latest

[leaden birch]

yes daddy gamz

[lucid olive]

Put it latest and never change it

[leaden birch]

awesome, I am now doing -.6% compared to yesterday!

[lucid olive]

Love that for you

[leaden birch]

how will I kill gally now?

[mortal acorn]

.6% faster at least

[tacit oak]

Any idea what kind of talents we wanna druid for M+ on ptr with drayad

[leaden birch]

do you mean slower

[lucid olive]

Just make some shit up

That's what testing is for

Use the Keeper of the Grove build linked in Compendium as a template and just change it

Can probably do the Stix build as well

[tacit oak]

Thats the one i have been trying out,

[lucid olive]

If the playstyle is to do as much dam during dryad window as possible then maybe try FOE with Radiant Moonlight or something could be fun

No clue what you'd drop for it

[signal meteor]

i might be missing it but is there a way to tell the sim to evaluate options using dinar similar to how it does the logic with great vault choices?

[ornate quest]

Hi, if im never gonna get mythic BiS weapon, is the 2nd best option the crafted weapon until i get a mythic weapon from vault?

[craggy sonnet]

so you are not really asking about the 2nd best option then?

but yea, for stuff you can just get its crafted weap

2h or 1h oh doesnt matter too much

and most myth track mh/oh are gonna be a slight upgrade

[ornate quest]

what emblish would i be running? mostly for m+

[craggy sonnet]

ehh, hardly matters

can run duskthread lining

or just ascension and dont bother

even the simp ring is decent but obv not for yourself

[pseudo merlin]

What does this mean?

You want to top gear sim dinar options? Top gear sim them

Click top gear if you want to top gear and droptimizer if you want to droptimizer

[signal meteor]

i have one dinar and three things i want to buy - when you sim GV options, the system knows you can only take one of the available options you're selecting, so i want to do the same with dinar purchases

cuz ideally i'd like to sim those dinar options on top of belt stats and recrafting stuff, so running the sim multiple times would be somewhat annoying

[pseudo merlin]

That works in both droptimizer and top gear

[pseudo merlin]

top gear

I don't know of a way to let it specifically only use one item at a time, but the results will do so and you'll just need to scroll down a bit

[scenic mist]

this doesnt work well on topgear afaik

combination that arent top are run at low precision

hard to tell who's who, you just know it's not best

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah but what's the alternative

[scenic mist]

the thing he doesnt wanna do

[pseudo merlin]

exactly

[signal meteor]

yeah i was mostly just making sure i wasn't missing a setting before i do all that work

[pseudo merlin]

might be some custom string but idk about that

[quiet crystal]

Just do the KOTG m+ build in the wowhead guide. Seems bugged tho, I'm critting 99M with starsurge

[scenic mist]

why bugged ?

[scenic mist]

did you read your set bonus ?

[quiet crystal]

Yes

[plush prairie]

99m?

[quiet crystal]

Yes

[plush prairie]

surely fake numbers right

are you hitting classic mob or something

[plush prairie]

what the hell

[quiet crystal]

Nope, it's the combat log just now on the dummies in dornogal

[scenic mist]

did this on a ST dummy

yesterday

dont see any bug

[plush prairie]

surely not intended then

[quiet crystal]

Can't be

[scenic mist]

dunno what you are babbling about tbh

yeah you didnt read

[plush prairie]

I read nothing

I just read that someone hit 99m surge lmao

[scenic mist]

new kotg set bonus is all

allows you to stack damage kinda like touch of the magi

[plush prairie]

oh dang

good job i'm swapping from boomie next season

[quiet crystal]

You store 5% of the damage you did during dryad which lasts 10s. It's either bugged or they're reworking it. More than one implication to the idea

[plush prairie]

Fairs fairs, I do like the totm playstyle of it tho

[scenic mist]

not bugged, just powerful in the current state

powerful part is you can carry your buff to the next CA, and send buffed ss into the 2nd dryad

rince, repeat, big dam

[shy mauve]

I don't think so, I asked a streamer and they said no

[serene stone]

so what are we using for belt now?

[pseudo merlin]

the pins

[serene stone]

why dont u just say it instead of saying pin, makes no sense

[pseudo merlin]

I knew it

[leaden birch]

clicking the pin

is faster for you

than for us to type what to use

[lofty depot]

Why don't u look at the pin instead of asking

[pseudo merlin]

Check the pins, stop having a shitty ass attitude because you don't want to look at the things that are there specifically to answer faqs

[leaden birch]

lazy af

[orchid ember]

Reading is hard I get it

[pseudo merlin]

lazy bum

[leaden birch]

how about we play the game for you too

[pseudo merlin]

ideally yes

Also can you buy him a raidbots sub

[leaden birch]

[pseudo merlin]

And also sim for him

[leaden birch]

fkin got me

[serene stone]

man talking prob parsing greys or blues lol

[pseudo merlin]

So real

People who read pins and faqs are grey parsers

[leaden birch]

yup

[pseudo merlin]

The real chads never do even the bare minimum work so they can focus on pink parsing

Yellow parsing even

[leaden birch]

even if you were a pink parser, i'd still call you a lazy fuck for not clicking the pin

[pseudo merlin]

:3

[serene stone]

oh no, i asked a question oh noesss

eww ret paladin

[pseudo merlin]

you got me there

[serene stone]

show what diff

[leaden birch]

you asked a question, and got an answer you didn't like

[serene stone]

imagine getting butt hurt for me asking just to tell me

lol

[pseudo merlin]

Wait who's the one butthurt

[lofty depot]

Settle down buddy

[pseudo merlin]

It's just you right

[leaden birch]

makes no sense

[pseudo merlin]

You were just told to check the pins

[leaden birch]

[pseudo merlin]

Ah the kind of person that makes everything about credentialism

your opinion isn't valid if you're not an RWF raider or streamer or rank 1 parser

[serene stone]

showing me in s1 when im asking to get invited because of my io lol

[pseudo merlin]

?

[orchid ember]

I just realized this person has a naked Goku has their disc icon

[pseudo merlin]

[leaden birch]

anime pfp

[pseudo merlin]

wait a minute..

[leaden birch]

[lofty depot]

Ur only 3k and it's week 500

Thanks for the confirmation

[pseudo merlin]

Im 3.2k on my druid and I leveled it to 80 last week

[leaden birch]

hey hey hey, there's a difference between anime and what my pfp is

[pseudo merlin]

:3

and I did like 30 keys

[leaden birch]

my shit is a classic

[serene stone]

not really

[serene stone]

sure bud

[pseudo merlin]

sure?

Wait I'm getting sured on 3.2k rio?

[sudden pawn]

yo whats the new belt power we are using

lol

[pseudo merlin]

That's not even high

[serene stone]

froyo watch it theyre get upset at u for asking when its pin

[sudden pawn]

what a bunch of idiots

[pseudo merlin]

Froyo is making fun of you you donkey

[leaden birch]

ur shit is ahegao otaku uwu anime

[orchid ember]

Asking is fine

[serene stone]

facts

[pseudo merlin]

[leaden birch]

mine is newgrounds

[lofty depot]

We won't, froyo is a troll

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-caracal-floppa-troll-troll-trolling-gif-23666763

[lofty depot]

He's double trolling right now

[orchid ember]

getting mad when you're told the answer is in the pins is just stupid

[leaden birch]

makes no sense

[lofty depot]

Imagine falling for it

[pseudo merlin]

@lofty depot how do I play boomie

[lofty depot]

Idk I'm a mage

[leaden birch]

guys, under or over that this dude still hasn't checked pins

[pseudo merlin]

fuck

Can you go read the entire compendium for me please

and like summarize it for me

Or is your rio not high enough?

:/

[leaden birch]

re-roll devoker

[lofty depot]

Under/over it helps him get into keys faster

[leaden birch]

wdym, he's a mythic pink parser lmao

[pseudo merlin]

yo my mythic parses are banging

[lofty depot]

M0 pink parser

[pseudo merlin]

I'm almost beating Oi's OBR

[digital berry]

Ouch

[leaden birch]

dude just needs to know which belt power to use for his re-clears

[pseudo merlin]

boost runs*

[leaden birch]

[serene stone]

thats u bud

[pseudo merlin]

That is me yeah