did that too cuz i wanted to see what the overcharged thing does
#balance
lavish token
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7JmfXQ1pWZ42txr3x26pok CAN SOMEON tell me why my sim saying to recraft my gear with these stats and use blazikon mythic ? instead of of HOC heroic
is that sim bait
scenic mist
7 targets is nutjob
craggy sonnet
not seen that before
lavish token
what should i be simmin on ?
pseudo merlin
China did do that target dummy DPS tournament last week that Morgan Day commented on
scenic mist
1t5m
pseudo merlin
Maybe it's time to optimise for it
lavish token
im seriously so bad at sims if someone would help me sim to find a way to optimize i would be super greeatfull
pseudo merlin
Or purposely not optimise, sandbagging to the max
lavish token
i herd patchwork is shit
pseudo merlin
I mean the answers were already given
pseudo merlin
i herd patchwork is shit
I would never ever listen to the moron who said these words ever again for anything ever
That's truely a take of all time
lavish token
how can i sim all of my crafted gear with all the possible crafts to see whats best for me ?
pseudo merlin
You can import crafted pieces into top gear
lavish token
or should i just run everything haste mastery
pseudo merlin
this bit here
lavish token
so wait recap i should sim on patchwork correct ?
pseudo merlin
you can search for any item, even non crafted
scenic mist
so wait recap i should sim on patchwork correct ?
yes
pseudo merlin
and you're basically always either on patchwerk or MDT
scenic mist
patchwork, 1target, 5min
scenic mist
dps is linear for us
pseudo merlin
patchwork, 1target, 5min
Why does literally everyone always type patchwork
scenic mist
1 target will give you the information you need
scenic mist
Why does literally everyone always type patchwork
got baited by his comment
craggy sonnet
not fully tho
pseudo merlin
Nah don't put this on someone else
craggy sonnet
pseudo merlin
That's you boo-boo
lavish token
if someone could help me i would be super great full
craggy sonnet
slightly better estimate
lavish token
ahh so just use that take a dungon and sim it through MDT ?
craggy sonnet
mdt usually favors haste a bit more (spends more time dotting etc)
pseudo merlin
I understand you're simming for M+. But for some specs there's no value to be had when simming multi target patchwerk, HAC, w/e sim type. Your choice is either 1t5m patchwerk, which tends to map onto proper M+ gearing because of how we scale between damage profiles ATM, OR go full tryhard and MDT sim every single key you're running.
The latter probably wont give you meaningfully different results from 1t5m anyway
pseudo merlin
Oh god you procced arctic
scenic mist
and thats best for m+
best ratio effort/results
pseudo merlin
sussy
pseudo merlin
u can however sim patchwerk 5t
20s right?
lavish token
im running 19s and 20s for my sims whatever is best lol 🙂
im 3700io what ever is best for higher keys is what i need to be doing is that going to be patchwork 5t
lofty depot
what r u trying to find out with ur sim
little tweets in stats arent going to change ur ability to time a 20
digital berry
Yeah what kinda sims are you running at this point in the season when you’re running 20s
pseudo merlin
I would MDT sim if I was literally at a point where I'd need to squeeze 1% to time some insanely high key
At the point where you have a bag full of sidegrades
And you can just farm the same strat/route till you get it done
At that level of consistency, with the same group etc, that super min max might be worth something
lofty depot
I would MDT sim if I was literally at a point where I'd need to squeeze 1% to ti...
u aint gaining 1% from stat swap
nt tho
pseudo merlin
Yeah I'm using the metaphorical 1%
1% is a pretty significant number I know
make it 0.1 or 0.5
digital berry
In what universe does even a 0.5% dps upgrade actually make it or break it
drifting nova
think I failed dead on once
cant remember if it fails or passes deadon
was in like bfa idk
pseudo merlin
was that the last time you timed a key?
pseudo merlin
BFA classic soon
pseudo merlin
AD was huge
pseudo merlin
or just drinking
I can't deal with milk from other brands
it's like an entirely different drink
red nymph
how are we lookin on PTR?
pseudo merlin
Too early to have a meaningful convo about tuning, but design wise the tier bonuses are fucking bangers.
vital hound
we're due a nerf
dense steeple
why are you all bald
red nymph
pseudo merlin
Why aren't you
exotic perch
look at you baldys
pseudo merlin
that spells alfa in greek I think
pseudo merlin
there now im bald
pseudo merlin
ya but no ph in greek, just f
lofty depot
<@391289638003933185> strim up
lies
digital berry
<@391289638003933185> strim up
Has to bathe my cat, bro I am spent
shy void
should i switch disc belt to spark burst (haste) for one armed bandit reclear
lightning strike is doing 3.5-5% of my damage that seems high
digital berry
should i switch disc belt to spark burst (haste) for one armed bandit reclear
The fight is mostly st anyways it seems like a weird padding attempt that will backfire
shy void
The fight is mostly st anyways it seems like a weird padding attempt that will b...
yeah see i thought so too but this chinese guy is playing bounteous bloom + aetherial kindling + full aoe shit but chinese players like to do runs just for a couple people to parse
so probably he was one of the few people hitting adds
- elune's guidance to make convoke half cd
digital berry
Yeah miss me with that type of gameplay
shy void
ty
sonic juniper
Hey all, feel like I'm simming super low on ST, any ideas? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/inyJTt8ZqGW2CpwBcpZs13
sonic juniper
24k is low?
digital berry
You are 200k dps away from like the top sim, and you have neither of the bis trinkets , and many pieces are low ilvl . That is not a bad sim
lofty depot
25% low to be exact
lofty depot
You are 200k dps away from like the top sim, and you have neither of the bis tri...
bad sim
doesnt have a 3 infront of it
shy void
hey wait a second can't lightning strike hit dark-lined cuirass reel assistants?
delicate perch
sure
shy void
let me take this to the laboratory i need my implements of analysis
digital berry
You’re overthinking it perhaps a little tiny bit
delicate perch
ya I don't think it matters that much
sonic juniper
I'm a resto druid just, have some DPS alts, might just be boomys being low ST?
delicate perch
what is high st to you
obsidian jetty
the main fight the zap is bad on is mugzee
sonic juniper
I'm just running boomy on alt raid nights and was curious
obsidian jetty
that shit heat seeks the DR/immune targets
delicate perch
based lightning
digital berry
the main fight the zap is bad on is mugzee
Still cba switching it
delicate perch
teach those immunebots whos boss
obsidian jetty
digital berry
Its not like it actually matters week 18
toxic sleet
motw in dps rotation here we come
delicate perch
huh
sonic juniper
what is high st to you
Saw logs of people hitting 3.8 on Locken but thats probably got to do more with fight timings now that I think about it
digital berry
motw in dps rotation here we come
I sincerely hope this doesn’t become smth we gotta do
delicate perch
surely there are faster ways to go oom
digital berry
Saw logs of people hitting 3.8 on Locken but thats probably got to do more with ...
They are fully decked out, max gear all bis trinkets and shit
and probably getting externals
Don’t compare yourself to them
obsidian jetty
Saw logs of people hitting 3.8 on Locken but thats probably got to do more with ...
rng and killtime
there is variance to a sim, my 3mil sim has an iteration that goes to 3.7mil for instance
the number you see is the avg
digital berry
The variance is gonna be huge next tier
With crit/no crit on the empowered surges
If they don’t change anything
glossy jungle
surely there are faster ways to go oom
Respec before pull
digital berry
Just spam heals no
shy void
You’re overthinking it perhaps a little tiny bit
you guys are absolutely right it doesn't matter one lick
but my guild got CE and died and i just snuck into a kinda crummy raid i'm milking this fun for all its worth
sonic juniper
Gotcha, thanks yall
shy void
all the good players are gone
bottom feeders rise up
wait how did you get the soys tag
i'm a soy boy too
oh it's a server thing
loud kettle
I did 3.6m on lockensprock as feral but that spec sucks ig, stinky owls doing more dmg
lofty depot
huh
blud thinks motw takes a bunch of mana to cast
when u have 2.6mil and it costs 25k
noble spindle
costs more as resto i think
its like % of ur mana
me when my healers are begging for innervate
digital berry
My vuhdo refuses to cast innervate
delicate perch
blud thinks motw takes a bunch of mana to cast
rotation is now motwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotwmotw
digital berry
I do not know what to do to fix it , literally says invalid target
delicate perch
consider having a valid target 
digital berry
I thought it was because I had a macro with the same name so I renamed it and nope
The healers aren’t valid targets
I gotta set up cells or smth
digital berry
Valid
delicate perch
friendly fire
noble spindle
says who
shy void
when they invent smellovision for computers i believe blizzard will be at the forefront
moonkins will be stinky for real
digital berry
Hey I’m a well groomed homosexual leave me out of this
hollow mist
Hey I’m a well groomed homosexual leave me out of this
fiery harness
Whats the sim dps of a bis boomy
digital berry
Probably smth around 3.1 I’d assume
Im almost entirely decked out and I sim slightly above 3 mill
delicate perch
Just ping recruitie surely his sim is up there
digital berry
@obsidian jetty what’s your top sim
delicate perch
Think I’m at like 3.0x M atm
Could maybe hit 3.1 with gems and shit but that’s a lotta effort
vital hound
3.056 is mine but i have weird crafts
digital berry
Yeah same here I have to craft a cape and equip some real gloves probably
For minor gains
fiery harness
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/btPS48byo4rum3Rjgxtepk
Thanks
Do you know why the sim opener is different from dreamgrove compendium?
they always use fury of elune after incarnation
digital berry
Do you know why the sim opener is different from dreamgrove compendium?
Its not after is same gcd
fiery harness
Its not after is same gcd
digital berry
Probably just an apl thing, nobody cares enough to fix it and it’s really not that big of a deal
fiery harness
why do we want to use fury of elune first? just to trigger the cd reduction effect?
digital berry
Because it’s a bad button to press inside your cds
Its a bad gcd
It’s better to use that gcd to cast a starfire
fiery harness
I see
lucid olive
Do you know why the sim opener is different from dreamgrove compendium?
quick sim sample sequence is not a template on what order you should cast your spells in
glossy jungle
vital hound
digital berry
There is no valid explanation
vital hound
tgs + click wrong button
river galleon
Only one left.
digital berry
Only one left.
delicate perch
i beat gamz
“Expert” btw
vital hound
more like NOOB
delicate perch
obsidian jetty
<@137559600722345984> what’s your top sim
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1gxSTAhicLYqH3yvXTLXMr somewhere around this
vital hound
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1gxSTAhicLYqH3yvXTLXMr somewhere around t...
insane loadout wth
scenic mist
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/291rukBtgNGcSaSqhZyGQt
cheater
dirty
show us present sim
royal zenith
can never trust recruitie again
vital hound
frosty locust
so if I got it correct, you wanna dot all mobs with moonfire and sunfire once you are in eclipse, do I have to target each mob by itsself or will the dot apply on targets nearby to my current target?
scenic mist
so if I got it correct, you wanna dot all mobs with moonfire and sunfire once yo...
sunfire before eclipse
sunfire cleave around your target
and will apply to everything it touches
frosty locust
ok great, ty!
pallid bay
Its a bad gcd
royal zenith
Me when I make up random stuff to fuel my argument
delicate perch
Me when I make up random stuff to fuel my argument
proof?
delicate perch
he's a cop
grim hull
is there a summary to read up on the first impression of the new set? just looked at dreamgrove and no pins here i guess
scenic mist
is there a summary to read up on the first impression of the new set? just looke...
nop
pseudo merlin
is there a summary to read up on the first impression of the new set? just looke...
super fucking insane happy poggies
big blizzard W
My mind is fucking blown, I would never in a million years have expected a tier set that's this complex and involved after that homogenous goop they fed us this tier
lucid olive
They're really strong but Keeper one probably needs some changing
EC one feels weird cause you want to get it to 6 stacks quick but with FoE CDR you end up sending on 3-4 a lot
Keeper 4pc promotes some degenerate gameplay but it's very strong even when played the way it's intended
scenic mist
set take from gamz (this is my tag for when futur ppl ask, so i can send them here)
small elbow
I tried both on PTR. Only thing is that the SS from EC we're doing 0 dmg. I feel like the only thing you're playing around is the dmg increase, that's the main point
fossil hemlock
I tried both on PTR. Only thing is that the SS from EC we're doing 0 dmg. I feel...
Yeah they're hitting friendlies
orchid hinge
hi i just started moonkin a month ago. my astral smolder damage is severly lacking compared to good boomies of the same key level - what could i be doing wrong?
scenic mist
hi i just started moonkin a month ago. my astral smolder damage is severly lacki...
not casting enough is the only thing
astral smolder is a passive dot proccing from builder~~'s crit~~
less builders,~~ less crit,~~ less smolder
obsidian jetty
it's not based off crit anymore. Just 35% chance to proc
small elbow
Yeah they're hitting friendlies
Ah that might be why, quick bug fix I guess
scenic mist
uh oh then could it be my haste
dont waste NG stacks, press as many FoE as you can, send good cds, and smolder (as every other dmg source) will naturally go up
orchid hinge
but whats weird is this - take for instance rookery last boss - i have 2% more damage from starfire and way more casts but 6% less astral smolder damage...
orchid hinge
so just better/worse luck?
pseudo merlin
yes
scenic mist
but whats weird is this - take for instance rookery last boss - i have 2% more d...
last boss of ROOK also has a damage amp phase
is you didnt proc smolder inside but they did, it can explain the difference
pseudo merlin
its completely the wrong thing to focus on
orchid hinge
ok.. thanks!!
pseudo merlin
holy shit finally
pseudo merlin
reclear
quiet drift
but whats weird is this - take for instance rookery last boss - i have 2% more d...
Small sample size + the rng is even worse cuz if you dont proc Astral Smolders in dmg amp its gonna be very low
scenic mist
reclear
ok i'm brain dead
i was convinced it was from a vault, didnt look at the rolled icon, fml
pseudo merlin
ok but like real talk
Why does fire form take longer to get than legendary axe
Another week I don't have it
pseudo merlin
im on like 20
scenic mist
doing 4 difficulties every week ?
scenic mist
...
scenic mist
it definitely drops from any difficulty
just not sure if you have 4 rolls or if it's only the 1st try of the week tho
pseudo merlin
Yes it does, but that doesn't mean you can do all 4 every week for increased chances?
pseudo merlin
whats it called
lyric kettle
Keeper 4pc promotes some degenerate gameplay but it's very strong even when play...
are the dryads starsurges supposed to copy the buffed starsurges
pseudo merlin
thx
pseudo merlin
how am i still your personal assistant
I'm starting to understand people who join a discord server and just ask what they want to know instead of bothering going through the faq or pins or anything
There's always someone who just answers you anyway
scenic mist
@pseudo merlin
pseudo merlin
yeah but
scenic mist
pseudo merlin
The axe for example also had 1 roll per difficulty
Unless you did mythic, it would condense all those rolls into 1
scenic mist
nah there isnt BLP on the feather
pseudo merlin
So you wouldnt have to do every difficulty
scenic mist
yeah but this is just a random cosmetic, not a legendary everyone was running after
i swear you run heroic right now and you drop it
lucid olive
are the dryads starsurges supposed to copy the buffed starsurges
Nobody knows
I think just cutting the buff duration to like 20 seconds instead of 45 fixes it maybe
lyric kettle
probably
lucid olive
Or make it just not keep stacking
obsidian jetty
It's gona be a 10s duration and capped and we will all be forced to spam starfire in all content, don't worry
along with a buff to lunar calling. 300% starfire dmg to main target
lucid olive
I don't like the EC tier set tbh
ornate quest
in M+, going into a pack before dotting everything, do I want to wrath twice first before?
scenic mist
in M+, going into a pack before dotting everything, do I want to wrath twice fir...
only if you can cast the wrath from out of combat
scenic mist
only if you can cast the wrath from out of combat
assuming you will incarn
ornate quest
only if you can cast the wrath from out of combat
so if I cant get two wraths in from out of combat, i'd just go to the aoe opener you mentioned a while back?
foe, incarn, starfire 2x, woe, starfire?
scenic mist
so if I cant get two wraths in from out of combat, i'd just go to the aoe opener...
y
if you can wrath out of combat its exactly the same, but with 2 wrath on the beggining
ornate quest
ah ok, if im going into a pack without incarn, is it just the same order as before without the incarn?
so dots, foe, starfire 2x, woe, starfire
scenic mist
ah ok, if im going into a pack without incarn, is it just the same order as befo...
yes but i wouldnt wrath out of combat in that scenario
just dot into wrath
ornate quest
gotcha, ty!
scenic mist
so dots, foe, starfire 2x, woe, starfire
so woe, dots, wrath x2, foe, starfire
ornate quest
so woe, dots, wrath x2, foe, starfire
wait so is dots, foe, incarn, starfire 2x, woe, starfire? still the right opener for aoe if i have incarn? may i know why in this one we use starfire 2x instead of wraths?
scenic mist
wait so is dots, foe, incarn, starfire 2x, woe, starfire? still the right opener...
incarn gets you in eclipse, instead of the wraths
scenic mist
wait so is dots, foe, incarn, starfire 2x, woe, starfire? still the right opener...
and so you still have 2 NG stacks, so starfire x2
ornate quest
incarn gets you in eclipse, instead of the wraths
ah ok, ty again
lucid olive
spotted in the wild https://i.imgur.com/WdwhZt6.png
dan that guy gifted me gold
he's a real nice guy
vital hound
hands off the GOODS
glossy jungle
dan that guy gifted me gold
wish I had gold 
I gambled it all away.
down to 16m from 20m up
quiet drift
xddd
lucid olive
don't gamble kids
drifting nova
only what losers think
delicate perch
Can I gamble gold instead?
pseudo merlin
Was in Casino the other day, pocketed like 1k and then just went home
Gambling is so easy
Didn't waste any cash on drinks
didn't keep going
vital hound
bro left on a hot streak
glossy jungle
after every raid night we spend the next hour doing gcg, then once that's done some go to the sw casino to gamble more
gold has no use after you're over 10m
glossy jungle
this tier has been juice for sales. next tier mount also looks good, hope they add dinars again 
lucid olive
after every raid night we spend the next hour doing gcg, then once that's done s...
after raid we spend like 15 minutes standing in like at tbe bank in Dornogal to get paid our cut
with RP walk on
good vibe
lyric kettle
wish I had gold <:SAD:718207731185745922>
I gambled it all away.
down to 16m f...
Ok how much of that is mine
glossy jungle
lmao same, we call it the centrelink line
glossy jungle
Ok how much of that is mine
at least 3m
lucid olive
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2487410944?t=2h53m58s
hahahhaa thats brilliant
crisp scaffold
Hi,is there a reason signet mithic > house of cards heroic in st and aoe fights ?
in my sims I mean
lucid olive
signet is a good trinket
sonic crag
As it stands is it actually the play to pop Treants 2 seconds into CA on PTR as KotG so your 2x buffed Surges are still within CA & have Treants % dmg buff?
lucid olive
maybe
that's a question for raidbots whenever the druid class module gets updated
the cook currently is to not spend the 2 Starsurges at all
lucid olive
the buff lasts 45 seconds and will also buff your dryad's Starsurges if you press CA again before the buff ends
will just keep scaling
sonic crag
If double CA also meant it would stack above 2, but it doesn't so you'd miss out on 2 buffed Surges. But I guess the 'damage in the window' carries over to the next 2 then as the Dryad never fades?
lucid olive
it doesn't stack above 2
quiet drift
the buff lasts 45 seconds and will also buff your dryad's Starsurges if you pres...
Least degenerate bamkin rotation
lucid olive
but it buffs your dryad's Starsurges
orchid ember
If double CA also meant it would stack above 2, but it doesn't so you'd miss out...
Doesn't stack above 2. You just send those 2 in your next CA window so your next 2 are even stronger
It's very degen
sonic crag
Oh yeah that's more degen than I anticipated
crisp scaffold
but it buffs your dryad's Starsurges
What is that ? next patch ?
pseudo merlin
tier set
dense steeple
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2487410944?t=2h53m58s
Wont catch me dead doing that shit
Mail it to me
glossy jungle
if you're horde it gets mailed out. just a bit of fun at the end of the night
quiet drift
God forbid people have fun
gray dragon
Does starfall hit brewtalizer?
gray dragon
Gross, is there a WA to track when it procs?
gray dragon
Ty
lucid olive
Yes Control of the Dream is still bugged
Yes clicking the weakaura is a workaround to it
No I don't know if it's fixed on the 11.2 PTR since the bug requires you dying to a raid boss
pseudo merlin
Damn it's lonely at the top
round field
Why do the names look like theyre edited with paint afterwards
round field
Theyre disgusting and i feel bad for you
latent egret
is there any forum post to support for this patch and changes?
elfin shoal
I love m+, just got yelled at by a 551 fury warrior who did less dps than our healer(who was carrying him) for combat ressing the tank instead of him
scenic mist
I love m+, just got yelled at by a 551 fury warrior who did less dps than our he...
3 letters, twice
zug zug
orchid ember
I love m+, just got yelled at by a 551 fury warrior who did less dps than our he...
Why do you have a 551 fury warr in your key
elfin shoal
Should have asked for payment, we +3d that 10 key
elfin shoal
Why do you have a 551 fury warr in your key
Healer was hosting key, kept last spot for dps open, then invited his 551 fury friend and said if you don't like it you can go
We already had been waiting for a tank for 20 min
scenic mist
guys
what's the display text for a WA if i want to display the first number of the buff tooltip ?
can't remember
wanna flex my dryad's favor
elfin shoal
i would've just bricked their key
Im making a fork of pgf to be able to filter out ethnic language servers, but i really should have as well
craggy sonnet
guys
what's the display text for a WA if i want to display the first number of t...
pretty sure its just %tooltip1
if its not the only trigger
scenic mist
pretty sure its just %tooltip1
yeah that's it but doesnt work on ptr, sadly
craggy sonnet
then %2.tooltip1 .. 2 being whatever trigger number
why not?
have you ticked the tooltip information checkbox in the trigger
scenic mist
have you ticked the tooltip information checkbox in the trigger
i'll relog to check, not sure
where ?
(only 1 trigger btw)
got it
great
mental widget
why cant i load any addons on the ptr? are they disabled?
lol wait wtf? nvm 😄 @scenic mist got wa to work? 😄
scenic mist
lol wait wtf? nvm 😄 <@1036340803045441657> got wa to work? 😄
yeah ofc
through curse
mental widget
y i know... i just showed you what my options are...
mental widget
ill try
mental widget
scan for games
it worked thank you ❤️
grim hull
do i understand the kotg st rotation correctly that i always combine trees/ca/convoke if possible and every 2nd trees is just trees and convoke because ca has still cd?
scenic mist
do i understand the kotg st rotation correctly that i always combine trees/ca/co...
No
grim hull
thank you
pseudo merlin
grim hull
so i space out the ca on pull to save it until trees, did not think of that
scenic mist
so i space out the ca on pull to save it until trees, did not think of that
You send ca with trees and voke on pull
But wait for 2nd trees to send 2nd ca charge
scenic mist
Exact
grim hull
jep thank you
scenic mist
jep thank you
A way to see it is :
always voke inside CA
always CA inside trees
scenic mist
Missing a BIS in there
grim hull
are there situations where i would hold trees (aside from raidboss phases etc) because i cannot use ca the next gcd? ("The cooldown on
CA is less than a GCD and the cooldown of Convoke the Spirits is less than 3 GCD's." from dreamgrove) or is that just not happening in reality with the 2 ca charges etc
scenic mist
are there situations where i would hold trees (aside from raidboss phases etc) b...
Not sure I understand the question, but if you have “less than a gcd” between you and CA, you basically have CA up, right ?
lofty depot
My phone died and had to get a new one
U got rid of me for almost 12 hours
"buy this phone it's smarter" u mean "buy this one it's skynet"
Fuggn miss me with that shit
grim hull
@scenic mist i guess yes, i just copied it from dreamgrove
scenic mist
<@1036340803045441657> i guess yes, i just copied it from dreamgrove
I think it was “hold until this”
But don’t hold more than 25sec
(Counting the 15sec of control of the dream)
lofty depot
<@1036340803045441657> i guess yes, i just copied it from dreamgrove
U always use CA with trees, and u always use convoke with ca
mental widget
is there somewhere feedback to the 11.2 balance sets? i think the kotg sounds a lot of fun and the elunes chosen... not so much
meager storm
both good
long bane
hi, i transformed my Test Pilot's Go-Pack thinking i was upgrading it from veteran to hero and it transformed into something else
pseudo merlin
you what
long bane
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pseudo merlin
Catalyse just turns your item into a predetermined (set) item
For set pieces that's set, for non set it's just visual set with sometimes different stat budget
long bane
it turned it into Leaves of Reclaiming Light
pseudo merlin
upgrading tracks does not exist
loud kettle
wait a second
long bane
upgrading tracks means from veteran to hero ?
loud kettle
isnt that next tiers
pseudo merlin
I'm very confused
pseudo merlin
upgrading tracks means from veteran to hero ?
sure
or im not sure actually
idk what the order is
loud kettle
Upgrading tracks isnt a thing
long bane
i got the back from LFR, i wanted to upgrade it from veteran to hero
pseudo merlin
but I said that already
long bane
oh i thought i would be able to
well it ruined the back but if i cant upgrade it to hero then its not as bad of a loss
should i turne my veteran armor into tier pieces ?
i have some nightfall gear
pseudo merlin
You should do whatever you can to get 4 set
enough charges at this point for it to be worth
long bane
alright i'll turn those veteran pieces into set pieces and upgrade them
long bane
im still not familiar with the ilvl and mythic levels but i think im right about this being impressive
came from wotlk yesterday, first time retail im very losr
humble pollen
If there's a stat priority, in what ratio should they roughly be in?
subtle sail
hi, i transformed my Test Pilot's Go-Pack thinking i was upgrading it from veter...
everyone gets an artifact cloak next patch for free anyways that is OP so dont feel to bad youll replace it soon
pseudo merlin
nah you should feel bad, it's an op flavor item that's for sure going to have use in plenty of situations like old content
wish I had one
there's some cloak flap tech out there i know it
subtle sail
I mean its dps even to just craft in that slot anyways now since the belt came out for most guys
theyll be okay
signal temple
I'm doing +14-15 keys atm with 645 tier pieces
I'm 667, I should push 12s but I don't
leaden birch
so charged bolts is getting nerfed?
sudden pawn
thats word on the street
leaden birch
great, need to go sim my char
pseudo merlin
im using the mastery thing
haughty sluice
huh, belt with charged bolt was only a 1.8% increase over my crafted belt. curious if belt will still be useful
leaden birch
charged bolts is getting nerfed by 60%
pretty sure the belt is still going to be used
signal temple
10s are too hard
I finished doing all 12s on Rogue and decided to spam some 10s for Crests and it was night and day
pseudo merlin
yeah bad idea
signal temple
Why are 10s so randomly awful
pseudo merlin
its insane how much easier 12s are
I mean the affix is one reason
makes it so much harder
haughty sluice
charged bolts is getting nerfed by 60%
yeah exactly. it was over 5% of my overall on some fights. if it's nerfed by 60% that means i lose about 2.7% overall and then crafted belt woudl be better
charred widget
yeah exactly. it was over 5% of my overall on some fights. if it's nerfed by 60%...
that’s just with bolts tho
new ones are getting buffed
signal temple
I mean the affix is one reason
That week was the "orbiting balls" affix too
pseudo merlin
that's the easiest one 😭
leaden birch
yeah exactly. it was over 5% of my overall on some fights. if it's nerfed by 60%...
i mean, others are getting buffed and overall more int and stam
subtle harness
because when you go to 12s the population halves
signal temple
that's the easiest one 😭
balls spawn
dps runs around to grab them
dies to some AoE
I still need 55 rating on Rogue for 3k 
signal temple
Are there other spells like that? I was about to spam TW this weekend on alts
pseudo merlin
apparently a bunch
orchid hinge
why would i want to use foe before incarn? isn't it more powerful then? is it so that boundless moonlight gets applied during incarn or something?
quiet drift
FoE persists
orchid ember
why would i want to use foe before incarn? isn't it more powerful then? is it so...
Globals inside of incarn are very important and foe updates dynamically with buffs
orchid hinge
ah..! thank you
orchid ember
send it before so you can send better globals inside of your cds
orchid hinge
that makes sense..
sudden pawn
more starfires
calm ibex
Wonder if the haste or mastery one will be better on st
jade flume
thats a goated change
dont have to swap to mastery for padding, can just keep mastery for everything and pad anyways
meager storm
78 mil surge 
cloud citrus
wheres the 150 mil
lofty depot
Can't wait to tell people u need to get 2 surges out between dryad ending and CA ending
cloud citrus
people gonna FLIP
pseudo merlin
discord lagging AF?
lofty depot
They're hacking the shit again
pseudo merlin
2 sec d elay before what I type shows up
loud kettle
Ur fault
pseudo merlin
feral yapping
keen nymph
Good afternoon yall! I have a quick question, I have undermine tokens to purchase a piece of gear from Consultant wexxle for the weekly. I am looking to get my BiS weapon which most of the websites point out is the weapon Best in slots. When I try to purchase it from the NPC it states that it gives agi as the main stat and not intellect. Does this correct itself once I equip it or is it a bug? I dont want to waste my tokens on this weapon if it isnt viable, thanks!
BiS for my balance druid btw.
pseudo merlin
read the description on BIS
click it
and it's NOT bis on heroic
so you probably don't want to buy it
really shouldnt be using bis lists
keen nymph
I am not doing any heroic prog or trying to get into mythic raids. I just want whats best for world and casual content.
pseudo merlin
YEs and that's not it
keen nymph
So just get the main hand staff maybe? or the One handed gally tech weapon?
pseudo merlin
Just craft
keen nymph
So what would yall recommend I use the tokens on? my main hand is still 593 lol
pseudo merlin
HOC simmed better for me than mythic signet
might wanna sim between those two and see whats better but im not sure on that
keen nymph
sorry whats HOC stand for?
'
lucid olive
hoc tuah
pseudo merlin
bandit trinket
mighty mica
?
formal crest
Good job expert
lucid olive
thanks
formal crest
sudden pawn
https://tenor.com/view/war-of-the-ages-cat-centurion-cat-centurion-cat-fight-gif-1741762862016554190
calm ibex
is the nerf up on raidbots?
royal zenith
violet hazel
hey how is boomkin 1 button dps? I'm trying to pick a class to go 0-mythic gally using 1 button on controller :)
pseudo merlin
what is 0-mythic gally
royal zenith
it's great, go for it
now that I think of it, this one button thing is EPIC for that guy that roleplays a frostmage on stream @pseudo merlin
pseudo merlin
true
dense steeple
hey how is boomkin 1 button dps? I'm trying to pick a class to go 0-mythic gally...
Bad
It uses convoke, then trees, then moonfire, THEN moonkin form
royal zenith
we sure thats not a user problem
pseudo merlin
I mean it does a lot of bad things but the overal loss is still lower than for other specs right
violet hazel
have you logged with it yet? I'm curious how it compares dps wise in a real scenario as opposed toa sim
dense steeple
Its literally in the tool tip lmao
pseudo merlin
cuz soma is a washed up ret player
calm ibex
damn
violet hazel
at least that's something easy to fix manually
lucid olive
the button is pretty bad for keeper but its okay for elunes chosen
dont get gcd penalty on hard cast starfire since the cast time is longer than the penalty would be
pseudo merlin
dont get gcd penalty on hard cast starfire since the cast time is longer than th...
wait a minute, that's how they implemented that?
violet hazel
the best class I've found so far is warrior with apparently around a 20% loss, up in the air whether BM hunter is better atm but if druid is better than that, I think I'm gonna try it
pseudo merlin
🤦♂️
lucid olive
yeah the penaltyn is gcd + 25% or something
violet hazel
anyone have logs from when they were trying 1 button?
pseudo merlin
I thought it would just add some downtime to every gcd
lucid olive
so if your cast is longer than that you dont get penalty, like chaos bolt for destro lock
violet hazel
say I wanted to do my opener manually and then start using one button, would I need more than a few spells on my hotbar? I've never played balance before but I'm strongly leaning towards it for this challenge
digital berry
Can't wait to tell people u need to get 2 surges out between dryad ending and CA...
that would be at the end of the third ca no
pseudo merlin
say I wanted to do my opener manually and then start using one button, would I n...
the buttons you are using..
do you need to have buttons on your bar in or der to press them? yes
violet hazel
which would be...? 
pseudo merlin
check the compendium in pins
violet hazel
I was hoping someone might know the spells from memory before I start doing research
pseudo merlin
check the compendium in the pins
there's a section for opener, that'l have everything you need
violet hazel
I really just want to decide how I would do it on controller so just knowing the number of spells would be nice
pseudo merlin
The amount of effort you're putting right now into trying to convince someone else to do your work for you is insane
check the compendiujm
violet hazel
dude you could have typed the spells out by now too lol
it's free to just not respond
pseudo merlin
The amount of entitlement is staggering
grim crest
and you could have checked the compendiums in this time it took you to keep re-asking ur same question
pseudo merlin
This has to be a bit right
There's no chance you can actually exist like this as a person
violet hazel
alright I'm gonna leave the question here and get back to what I was doing
you don't have to respond if you don't want to lol
grim crest
his reponse helped u but bc u didnt like his response or wasnt what u wanted to hear then ur not happy?
violet hazel
how many spells would I have to put on my bar if I just wanted to do the opener then switch to 1 button roto?
pseudo merlin
Please don't answer this clown
light quest
Uh I think you just need to add the Whole-Body Shrinka to your bar that should get you there
light quest
Still one of my favs.
Armor polishing toy for sparkles, whole body shrinka, neon forms or travel form. 10/10
pseudo merlin
I think you can shrink to flea size and go travel form and have someone ride you right
light quest
OMG I NEVER TRIED THAT
pseudo merlin
try it
light quest
holy crap I never even thought of that now I know what I'm doing while waiting for mythics
I don't think you can get it anymore on retail sadly
pseudo merlin
rip
lofty depot
that would be at the end of the third ca no
if u think were playing with the fysh cook ur trolling
digital berry
if u think were playing with the fysh cook ur trolling
i believe
plush obsidian
Anyone here use double on use trinkets? 684 signet simming 5k higher than my 671 candle. doesnt seem too bad, one for each incarn
would you guys just use double on use no question or not worth it?
fervent merlin
Some people don’t like double on use , but if It sims better it sims better
pseudo merlin
probably fine until you get BIS
fervent merlin
Robot take the wheel
plush obsidian
next week im just getting a heroic jug with chips so guess it doesnt matter much
guess ill listen to sim until then, thanks
fervent merlin
🙏🏽
pseudo merlin
oh wow amz got nuked
pseudo merlin
So real
Slappy hands gone too
I feel like both those things hurt everyone else just as much tho
pseudo merlin
I want to tilt our dks
Slappy hands is now an unholy CD that applies fester
no more pulling
loud kettle
they uncapped amz though so how tilting is that really
cloud citrus
ye down a little bit more it says Removed - Slappy hands
cloud citrus
blizz explained it that they needed more raid utility wihout buffing mythic+ utility so they did that
pseudo merlin
still waiting for my ret raid utility tho
exotic perch
Meh thats still not that bad
pseudo merlin
slappy hands is a big loss tho
pseudo merlin
yup
cloud citrus
ye mass grip that replaces normal grip + buffed AMZ would be enough for SURE
exotic perch
And potentially reduce other knockbacks
pseudo merlin
but first give SI to bamkin
exotic perch
Nah i just want more hp
cloud citrus
i want dk levels of hp
cloud citrus
not really bear form pre huge amount of hp with the talent
i should be able to shoot lazers in bear form though
exotic perch
Idk but would love to have our reliance on bear form be removed
pseudo merlin
id want more than 10
just make bear form make your next ASP spender free
call it astral bare
exotic perch
Or at least really reduce the negatives of using it
pseudo merlin
Haevanna's been typing for a hot minute now
teal elm
Question about elemental focusing lens vs. duskthread lining for mythic raiding. My sims insist that 2x elemental focusing lens is my best option given my available gear (myth track for everything but wrists and neck, so crafting would be an ilvl downgrade). Am I getting baited? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4kBGbiQkcYHynBLkr72PVj
Yeah I kept realizing I was saying dumb things and editing XD sorry
pseudo merlin
^^
surreal pasture
So I'm seeing a lot of boomies press starfall only on the first boss of dfc, is that any good apart from padding overall?
pseudo merlin
So I'm seeing a lot of boomies press starfall only on the first boss of dfc, is ...
only during cart
surreal pasture
thanks
pseudo merlin
unless cart wont die if you dont SS
pseudo merlin
Question about elemental focusing lens vs. duskthread lining for mythic raiding....
Looks fine to me
id argue there's no reason to sim over 5 min unless you're considering kezan
but I don't see that influencing your results here
teal elm
id argue there's no reason to sim over 5 min unless you're considering kezan
Fair point, we're on M Gally at this point so I'm looking at our expected fight length on that specifically
pseudo merlin
yeah thats fine
lofty depot
Question about elemental focusing lens vs. duskthread lining for mythic raiding....
- sim 1t5m, what fight lasts 8 minutes
- these 2 numbers are the same it doesnt "insist" that lens is the best option
vital hound
1. sim 1t5m, what fight lasts 8 minutes
2. these 2 numbers are the same it doesn...
gally
lofty depot
wrong
lofty depot
wrong
vital hound
ya no shit
cloud citrus
lol
vital hound
im not good at the game
lofty depot
vital hound
what else do you want arctic
lofty depot
u think my wr 800 guild boosts?
pseudo merlin
fair
teal elm
1. sim 1t5m, what fight lasts 8 minutes
2. these 2 numbers are the same it doesn...
Fair point. Second down still has 1x lens 1x dusk rather than 2x dusk on a crafted replacing one of my myth track pieces
lofty depot
Fair point. Second down still has 1x lens 1x dusk rather than 2x dusk on a craft...
the embells are all shit
0.2% doesnt matter
play the dusk vers shit and ull take less damage on the initial hit
woo
teal elm
Rofl, that makes me feel better. Thank you.
pseudo merlin
the non threads are op tho
not reliant on uptime
so you can troll as much as you want
eager raft
💀
lofty depot
idk what ur skulling
u never beat me on a heroic gally
so id body u on a mythic one
teal elm
Thanks y'all, gonna go kill gally in hopefully less than 8 minutes now because of my rightly chosen embellishments 
pseudo merlin
in any case
gally is free
like you killed sprocket and mugzee to get there
go full movement speed enchants cuz all you need to do is run around and not die
teal elm
Yeah our first night we were already getting past the crap overlap, I'm hopeful
scenic mist
Yeah our first night we were already getting past the crap overlap, I'm hopeful
Tell your bomb ppl that it’s ok to LITTERALY full stop dps for 30sec at times, as long as they don’t die the boss CANNOT kill you past the nasty p1 overlap
You just gotta trust
jade flume
Never stop deeps
scenic mist
Never stop deeps
Easy, just never carry a bomb :p
scenic mist
Lucky bamkins dont have to worry about that
? My RL didn’t get the memo, I carried 3rd bomb from prog day1 to now
drifting nova
Never stop deeps
heard someone say that before idk who it was tho
pseudo merlin
heard someone say that before idk who it was tho
I dont want to name names but I bet it was 🦆
drifting nova
made my weeds grow back smh
sturdy wigeon
So I have been casting wrath before every incarn and was looking at logs and noticed people do sometimes and sometimes they don't. Is there a condition that u cast it like if a pull is to big to be worth it?
digital berry
So I have been casting wrath before every incarn and was looking at logs and not...
The condition is being able to enter lunar eclipse entirely outside of combat
To get lunar eclipse rolling, cycle firmament and keep natures grace stacks
spice roost
what do boomies think of convoke do u guys like it or rather have incarn as a cd used instead
jade flume
? My RL didn’t get the memo, I carried 3rd bomb from prog day1 to now
Gg, he wanted u to wipe the raid
spice roost
if it were competitive on st
scenic mist
what do boomies think of convoke do u guys like it or rather have incarn as a cd...
Not very fun to press a button that says “just afk for the next 5sec”
scenic mist
Gg, he wanted u to wipe the raid
Tbf there is no way of dying to regular damage on gally, only a fail can kill you and this fail would kill anyone but a lock
digital berry
what do boomies think of convoke do u guys like it or rather have incarn as a cd...
I don’t mind it personally tbh, it really doesn’t feel like a huge button to press but it’s aight
drifting nova
what do boomies think of convoke do u guys like it or rather have incarn as a cd...
just make incarn base already zzz
glacial linden
how do we feel about the new 4 set?
wild dune
kotg kinda cool ec kinda whatever
scenic mist
how do we feel about the new 4 set?
craggy sonnet
gotta specify which set you are talking about even
pseudo merlin
damn im stacked
scenic mist
damn im stacked
Buy some mounts
pseudo merlin
mounts are specific to the xpac vendor right
scenic mist
Ye
exotic perch
yea most have 1 or 2 worth 5k
scenic mist
5k/mount, 2 mounts/xpac
exotic perch
then toys and pets around 1-2k
pseudo merlin
if there's some transfer tax im gonne lose it
scenic mist
if there's some transfer tax im gonne lose it
There isn’t
exotic perch
im still pissed they got rid of the easy 500 quest item for every alt
scenic mist
im still pissed they got rid of the easy 500 quest item for every alt
Yeah getting 200 is the biggest scam
pseudo merlin
im still pissed they got rid of the easy 500 quest item for every alt
is it warbound quest now?
oh 200
exotic perch
yea 500 first, 200 after
scenic mist
is it warbound quest now?
First is 500
pseudo merlin
ic
exotic perch
its bs who cares about getting tw badges
pseudo merlin
ye kinda dumb
fast finch
If I don't mythic raid, should I buy Heroic House of Cards and Best-in-slots ?
pseudo merlin
HOC/jastor/mugzee trinket
scenic mist
If I don't mythic raid, should I buy Heroic House of Cards and Best-in-slots ?
HoC probably, BIS no
fast finch
Ty!
vital hound
its bs who cares about getting tw badges
shrink the game
outer oasis
It seems the damage restore of dryad for 4pc of kotg in 11.2 has a upper limit
Idk my friend who have tested told me
lofty depot
correct
outer oasis
Hope it’s just a bug
lofty depot
they dont want us being big gamer venthyr
outer oasis
Sad
pseudo merlin
bring back frenzy you cowards
soft notch
Ew no. I don't wanna be AFK except once every 3 minutes. That shit sucked
dense steeple
Yeah instead now we can do damage every 2 minutes and then pretend we do anything outside of that
soft notch
Also very specific ramp sequence was really annoying
pseudo merlin
exotic perch
you just used jundarer's weakaura it was sick
then you look at the crit of your surges and cry
dense steeple
As if the current opener isn't fucking dots trees CA surge convoke
soft notch
As I remember it, there was a really long ramp sequence and if you messed it up it was gg
wicked shuttle
it wasnt a sequence
you had to have 100% casting uptime for 30s
which isnt possible for some people bc theyre bad
(this is why the OBR is OP)
solemn idol
After that hey 4 seconds left and 30 frenzy stacks? FoE, Bell, wraths/surges...then nap time
dense steeple
You shouldve seen it at 99 stacks
It was fun
Exploit to 99, get summoned inside a dungeon, start key with a giga buff. Blast. THEN HIT YOUR CD AS IT RUNS OUT AND GO AGAIN?
Bro it was so good
formal crag
friends using rotation assistant while trying to learn boomy and its never telling him to surge. only to starfall everytime he has enough astral. is there a reason behind this or...?
signal temple
It's Electric (Current)
Oogy oogy oogy
exotic perch
friends using rotation assistant while trying to learn boomy and its never telli...
there are prob more then 2 mobs
formal crag
theres not. we tested finding only one mob with nothing else around
signal temple
It's Electric (Current)
Oogy oogy oogy
So Spiral Weave is Overcharged right now.
I went to do the quest to get the belt, but you don't get the Electric Current item until you have the belt. 
full gazelle
Yeah gotta run it again. It doesn’t need to be overcharged to get the items.
signal temple
Just need to hit up Streetside Sluice then I have to farm out the Shield one
calm ibex
yeah doesnt need to be overcharged
just farmed all the stat ones today
several werent charged
And the shield only needs 100 if you don’t count the stuff you did for the quest
It’s not bad
sand rain
Do you guys use a macro for best in slots?
exotic perch
i macro hoc not bis
cloud lion
orchid terrace
idk if im late to talking about this, but what is happening on ptr
sullen perch
pew pew
orchid terrace
why does it do 5 healthbars 😭
calm ibex
That’s not even the highest we’ve seen
Think someone did like 90
But highest I’ve seen is 75-80
orchid terrace
wild dune
ptr be funny
mm hunters pressing nothing but aimed shot and having endless locknload procs
lofty depot
idk if im late to talking about this, but what is happening on ptr
have u read the tier set or
wild dune
reading is for chumps
upbeat gazelle
With current tuning is it looking like playing kotg in raid and m+ next tier? I only see people talk about the kotg set whenever I open disc and have made an assumption based off that lol
lofty depot
well i wouldnt make any assumptions on what will be played 2 days into a ptr that is 2 months from release
wicked shuttle
With current tuning is it looking like playing kotg in raid and m+ next tier? I ...
Nobody knows.
dense steeple
Ptr been up for a day this shits gonna get taken out back and shot and every white name tryna theorycraft it? 
meager storm
mm hunters pressing nothing but aimed shot and having endless locknload procs <:...
that was a fixed a bit ago
also details shows the dryad dmg sometimes, sometimes it doesnt, if u pop ur opener cds and then hold the 2 giga surges for the 30s treants with ca and dont use those 2 surges till right before the dryad is about to go all the surges the dryad casts are amp'd with the 2 amp'd surges sending like 5 40 mil surges by itself
those are shown but sometimes they are not shown at all so idk, maybe included into our normal surges? idk
wild dune
pseudo pine
So with the nerfs to charged bolts, hows the angle looking on the disc belt now on what to play etc? Anyone checked
calm ibex
Pins and sims
vagrant cove
Lads, Archon reckons circlet is a good ring, wowhead reckons circlet is a good ring, not a lot of the top of the druids are wearing it, whats the go?
They're all wearing 681 crafted rings, am I better off getting a crafted ring over the circlet?
Referring to M+ for context
restive jolt
They're all wearing 681 crafted rings, am I better off getting a crafted ring ov...
highest keys demand more stam
vagrant cove
highest keys demand more stam
Oh understood cheers
lucid olive
highest keys demand more stam
crafted also sims better in MDT sims for m+
prisma basalt
Morning lads, any guide how i can sim MDT in raidbots?
prisma basalt
Can you send wago link?
lucid olive
prisma basalt
tyvm
mighty mica
really curious how you knew about it without the link to it
pseudo pine
How do you actually sim the disc belt?
Cant seemt o get any other then lightning rod on it on it?
scenic mist
How do you actually sim the disc belt?
Cant seemt o get any other then lightnin...
On top gear, click the “+” button on the belt like you would change ilvl
Tadaa, listing of powers
pseudo pine
Spank u all!
scenic mist
Spank u all!
Spanking me is only for a chosen few
pseudo pine
Spanking me is only for a chosen few
hollow mist
really good comms
weary berry
i'm having an issue with exporting priory routes with https://wago.io/Yya4XBbl- is this a known issue?
serene stone
so what are we taking for belt ability after storm gets a 62% nerf after weekly reset
lucid olive
pins
serene stone
so the haste or mastery one
lucid olive
versa one
serene stone
lame