balance

[quiet drift]

[round field]

oh it is i misspelled it

[quiet drift]

mb cuh...

I have no letroll emoji

[round field]

[royal zenith]

rip emnithy is italian

[eager raft]

deux

[royal zenith]

thats me

[eager raft]

yes 🙂

[silk acorn]

I believe it is this wa:
https://wago.io/plqZt0MIy

[scenic mist]

Hey
Could you show your sim showing that the belt is more than 2.5% upgrade ?
On my sims it’s way less, more around 2
So it matches your in raid experience

[eager raft]

it did 7% of my damage in 1 fight

Thoughts?

[scenic mist]

You’re missing the point

I’m asking for the top gear % variation

You don’t take mainstat delta into account with your screenshot

[eager raft]

Link the sim!!!!!!!

[scenic mist]

Ok so 1.4%

Less than half what you were advertising right ? Or did I miss something ?

[eager raft]

I think u want an iteration with a non embelished belt to see the true gain

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ukHBKsWY36QQfckA2LSg3P

1.7%

that sim doesn’t really replicate any in game situation rn

I’d imagine the haste power would get a lot more value in that sim

Than bolts

[lofty depot]

Clearly it doesn't

And there's no fight that is 4t 5m

[eager raft]

?

[round field]

wrong?

[eager raft]

Single target damage is always relevant

[craggy sonnet]

Idk what kinda add uptime you feel like there is currently

[eager raft]

And you can set the length and variance to match the duration of real fights

[round field]

vex is basically st
rik is basically st
cauldron is st
sprocket is full st
mugzee is mostly st

how is that 1/8

[craggy sonnet]

Agree that it hitting immune adds on oab or mugzee is not optimal

[eager raft]

hell even gally is st like 90+% of the time

[lofty depot]

They're not immune the whole fight

[eager raft]

right, so you’re only ever hitting one target

[craggy sonnet]

But that's 50% chance on idk 20% of the fight

[eager raft]

maybe u do

I don’t

[craggy sonnet]

Prolly way less actually

[round field]

??????????????????????????????

??????????????????????????????????????????????????

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[eager raft]

6?!???!!???

[lofty depot]

Maybe kill the boss faster

[eager raft]

There are only 6 that spawn for the entire fight

bombs???!!!!???!!!???

[round field]

no way

are u

dotting immune adds

on mugzee

[eager raft]

Ap gen funnel

U wouldn’t get it

[lofty depot]

I'm gonna dot bombs when boss is 5%

[round field]

ah yes

[lofty depot]

Big brain

[lofty depot]

The brain rot

[round field]

understandable

have a nice day

[eager raft]

U freaky ass moonkin players aren’t dotting bombs are u

That is degenerate

[lofty depot]

Well the "ass" moonkin players are

[eager raft]

Moonkins deserve all the hate they get

[round field]

so true bestie

[lofty depot]

"I gotta dot the adds cuz they exist"

[round field]

im so ready

to play my

entrophy demon hunter

next tier

gonna blast

[eager raft]

iqnidh arc

[round field]

its so over

im rerolling

only a gkick can stop me

[eager raft]

I dunno what I’m playing next tier

But I don’t think it’s gonna be bamkin

[lofty depot]

Cuz I'm playing bamkin?

[royal zenith]

Me next tier

[eager raft]

We have 2 boomy players rn so it just wouldn’t really make sense

[lofty depot]

Can't join res guild cuz they have bamkins

[eager raft]

you can’t join because you were too slow at making a decision

[lofty depot]

So true

[eager raft]

And now we’ve recruited a billion players

[lofty depot]

Billion shit players

Lol we lost 2 players during mugzee prog. And we get CE before them because they joined a guild selling gally that is never giving them a kill

And I've been rage baiting them for 3 weeks now

[eager raft]

We actually have some fairly good trials rn I’ve been impressed

And that is hilarious. Karma biting them in the ass for bailing during prog

[pseudo merlin]

crazy

[lofty depot]

That's not a caster

[eager raft]

2H??!!?!?

No glaives?!!??

[digital berry]

Insane pic instead of a screenshot

Everybody and their momma is gonna play entropy next season

[royal zenith]

No waayyyy

People play a new class thats probably op?

Absolutely NO way!!

[digital berry]

Was devastation broken when it came out

[royal zenith]

Ye

[craggy sonnet]

was it?

[digital berry]

Was that the same season as the legendary?

[eager raft]

It was pretty good

[craggy sonnet]

legendary came after

[eager raft]

No legendary was s2

It wasn’t op damage wise but evoker was insane in voti

[craggy sonnet]

yea

the utility in raid was good

[eager raft]

The fights were basically designed around its kit

[craggy sonnet]

and i guess they specifically had the dmg vs shield for rasza?

wasnt that a thing as well?

[digital berry]

I don’t know I was benched on that fight

[eager raft]

Yeah unravel was good there

[digital berry]

Voti balance did literally zdps

[pseudo merlin]

fuck demon hunters tbh

[royal zenith]

haters gonna hate

[pseudo merlin]

I hate purples

[lofty depot]

No it didn't

[pseudo merlin]

Deux strikes me as a purple player

[jade flume]

Balance was garbonzo all of dragonflight wasnt it

[royal zenith]

100%

[pseudo merlin]

yes

IT was so bad on tindral that they all had to learn feral

[royal zenith]

I will be an entropy enthusiast

[lofty depot]

I'm glad tswift is "all of dragon flight"

[pseudo merlin]

Odds that entropy will steal voidform from SP?

how funny would that be

[eager raft]

bamkin was fine in aberrus no?????!!???

[pseudo merlin]

we did it boys

[jade flume]

I think depends how long u made ur dps meter

[eager raft]

I was in a w1500 guild

[pseudo merlin]

no

[eager raft]

I didn’t have to make it very big

Only 1 line

[pseudo merlin]

ret and bm and bamkin will always be good in wr1500

I mean it might change now that there's 1 button

[eager raft]

competent players will always be good

[pseudo merlin]

I bet some specs with 1 button outdps peak boomies in ST

[lofty depot]

Says the wr1500 boomkin

When rwf used boomkin

[pseudo merlin]

my ret sims like 3.2k

[eager raft]

mm hunter 1 button is kinda playable

Because aim shot and rapid fire are long casts

So the gcd penalty means nothing

[pseudo merlin]

ye im thinking the same for assa and feral

pooling anyway

[eager raft]

It does weird stuff for feral

Let’s bleeds fall

[pseudo merlin]

ah does it

yikers

[eager raft]

Snapshots nothing

[pseudo merlin]

actually?

nah that's hilarious

[eager raft]

Convokes seemingly at random

[pseudo merlin]

blizzard too stupid to fix 1 button for feral

[proper sinew]

Have you pressed Bear yet Ravec

[pseudo merlin]

thoughts?

the speed might make it worth no

[pseudo merlin]

I spend like half my time in bear now

[jade flume]

Agi bad for bamkin

[pseudo merlin]

im still dying idk

I did time a 14 priory

every pack with double divine toll got me to like 2% hp in bear form

[proper sinew]

Tanks not staggering them is rough

[sudden pawn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/989590631892521050/caption.gif

[jade flume]

1 heal

[pseudo merlin]

I'm so happy weakauras still exist

and dbm

[craggy sonnet]

not how it works

[pseudo merlin]

that audio cue for toll is life saving

Imagine playing without it holy shit

[jade flume]

You are not in danger if u dont do keys

Thats my solution at least

Cant believe they are bringing back that key tho

[pseudo merlin]

priory is coming back a second time in a row?

I don't mind

Priory is one of my favorite keys of all time

Like it's the worst fucking experience I've eveer had pugging in this game

But when all goes well it's such a good key

[proper sinew]

enlighten me

[jade flume]

Its trash

[pseudo merlin]

nah

I think it's legit my nr1

[jade flume]

At least dawnbreaker is back

Bis in slot weekly

[pseudo merlin]

priory + grimrail

best 2 keys in wow

change my mind

[jade flume]

Ill pray for u ravec

Might be too late though

Disease has clearly entered the brain

[frosty locust]

Are you guys running Fluid Form in ur m+ builds?

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[frosty locust]

Mind sharing your build? I am new to druid and the ones on wowhead are only without fluid and idk what i should swap it with

[proper sinew]

matted fur

[frosty locust]

tyy

[pseudo merlin]

I'm running the compendium build

You can find it in the pins, all the way down

[edgy carbon]

Hi, what is this WK? I asked yarrgi but he didn't answer me 😦

[lofty depot]

ask him again

[jade flume]

U ask

[edgy carbon]

he cut his stream

[pseudo merlin]

go by his house

[lofty depot]

ask tomorrow

assume its something like the targeted spell weakaura

[edgy carbon]

[pseudo merlin]

if your game crashes when flying to alst boss in mechagon

you just come back falling to your death 🙂

[eager raft]

Hey man please enable raid style party frames

Thanks

[rigid summit]

Do we have anyone here who enjoys log reviews?
Im looking for someone to shred me on why i can't do more dps

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cGmNZf1dQ4CxTRnj?fight=6&type=damage-done&source=8

I sim 2.5m, do 2.4 and yet i see druids doing 1m+ more than me. Unacceptable

[pseudo merlin]

all my addons are dead

cuz of this patch

bring it up with blizzardo

[digital berry]

You are cancelling casts a lot, dotting inside cds , going afk for movement instead of pooling asp and using dots for movement a lot

[livid zephyr]

Damn did we straight up get 0 changes so far for 11.2?

[digital berry]

The cd Windows are the time where we do most dmg, it you’re casting dots or nothing at all you’re wasting a ton of potential

[wicked flax]

question, would I replace Circlet with a 681 crafted ring?

[digital berry]

For m+ possibly, for st no

[rigid summit]

Enlighten me please 🙏

[digital berry]

I told you what you’re doing wrong from glimpsing at the log

[pseudo merlin]

I mean that was the enlightening right

[digital berry]

Cast more, cast useful spells, pool asp for movement and stop going afk

[eager raft]

y enter lunar eclipse on cauldron

[orchid roost]

yeah you should go read the guide again to understand the basics more

[digital berry]

Im on mobile so its rough but

[digital berry]

All of this is wrong

Cancelling a lot, dotting inside cds, and triple casting starfire

[digital berry]

Also

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/cGmNZf1dQ4CxTRnj/6/8

[craggy sonnet]

sorry .. the tolls use the spell staggering/desync tech aka they are always spaced out

[proper sinew]

That is true, but having 3 tolls in a row with 3s spacing is still gonna be a struggle for most healers

[gentle patio]

The elune tier set is really cool

more lasers

11.2 set I mean

[lofty depot]

It doesn't give more lasers

[craggy sonnet]

ehh, i guess. but you cant really do anything about that

there are literally 2 paladins in each pack

and you need to pull multiple packs

how does the splitting starsurges look tho?

[lucid olive]

like the regular starsurge animation looks

maybe a little more purpler

[craggy sonnet]

and it spreads out from the initial starfire target?

guess you wont really notice in a stacked fight

[lucid olive]

shoots out from you when the starfire finishes casting

[craggy sonnet]

oh

ok

thats more cool

[lucid olive]

also procs lunation if you starfire-foe

which idk if its a good thing or not cause you only get like 3-4 stacks of the 4pc before FoE is back up at most

[craggy sonnet]

ok, thats a lot of extra cdr

full value?

[lucid olive]

yes lunation procs from procs

it also procs from every stellar flare applied by orbital strike

ever since 11.0.5

[hearty hedge]

Hey guys, question…

I’m getting into m+ 16s now and there have been mechanics that just hit me so hard I get murdered. Every other person in the group seems fine but what takes them to 50% health takes me to 10% health.
I know to bear form or iron bark but it just feels like I’m in bear form too much. I casted it 34 times in my last priory. Any ideas would help! 680 I’ll 10.5m health

[craggy sonnet]

do the dmg amp stacks from tier refresh duration?

[lucid olive]

yes

[craggy sonnet]

before consuming

ok

[lucid olive]

also only gets consumed by the actual FoE spell or full moon hard casts

[craggy sonnet]

yea its a bit counter-intuitive with the amount of cdr and the set encouraging you to bank for your next CA

imagine if that wasnt the case

[lucid olive]

EC always been an uptime hero tree anyway idk

[craggy sonnet]

no agency at all

yea sure

[lucid olive]

maybe a world with convoke and the improved incarn would be fun

[craggy sonnet]

you probably would want to pool stacks for CA tho, right?

[lucid olive]

who knows

thats a sim question

[craggy sonnet]

ye

but you do only get a single stack even in aoe

[lofty depot]

Healer issue

Get an absorb tracker

Learn what's gonna kill u

[hearty hedge]

Okay, thanks.

[fiery harness]

Is hunter better than boomy in lower keys? Like 12 keys

[royal zenith]

yeh sure

[fiery harness]

I feel like every hunter around 2700-2900 rating out dmg me

[meager storm]

mm is bursty so perhaps

[eager raft]

I gap moonkins at all key levels

[digital berry]

And then you wake up wet

[eager raft]

Nahhhhhhhhhh my damage nice in keys

You’ve never invited me to one to see

[digital berry]

Haven’t needed to run a key in weeks

[royal zenith]

edgy

[fiery harness]

what’s your rating?

[jade flume]

you dont wanna know(its 2k)

[scenic mist]

9 out of 10

[eager raft]

Uhhh idk somewhere in the 3300-3400 range I think

3,371

[pallid bay]

lol

noob?

[fiery harness]

So why hunter isn’t s tier

[pallid bay]

so true keter

[eager raft]

buddy yours is lower

[pallid bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041063282435428433/1370222627687235646/togif.gif

[eager raft]

And u have the best m+ers on earth in ur guild

?!?!?!?!?!

[royal zenith]

when are tierlists based on my weeklies

elitists everywhere

I stg

[pallid bay]

ive done 2 18s man

[scenic mist]

it is

[eager raft]

That’s pretty good I’ve done 1 17

[jade flume]

wth

when did u become a key pusher

[eager raft]

The m+ meta classes do more than just damage

And hunter only does damage

[pallid bay]

i pushed one season

maybe two actually

but i pugged..

[jade flume]

might have to bookmark twosune now instead

[pallid bay]

acquired too much brain damage from that alone

[fiery harness]

I assume boomy has solar beam vortex and typhon?

And that’s why?

[scenic mist]

beam being the n1 thing

cause other classes also have good stops

[pallid bay]

it just does great damage and works in the comp

[scenic mist]

but big dam that's nicely scaling too

[eager raft]

And mark of the wild

[scenic mist]

best raidbuff

[eager raft]

Mostly mark and solar beam are the big positives of boomy rn

[eager raft]

bro I don’t think this is fair….

U should see the creatures I’ve had to do mine with

[scenic mist]

beam being even ahead of motw i'd argue, as they kept playing MK in the topend DFC while also having resto druid

[eager raft]

yeah there’s a couple dungeons where both beam and dh silence feel pretty required for certain pulls

[scenic mist]

definitely

[eager raft]

couple in DFC, start of workshop

Are the ones that immediately come to mind

[scenic mist]

ML

after elemental boss

[eager raft]

Yuuuup

[scenic mist]

but yeah in this evercasting meta having a mass silence is just too strong

[sullen stone]

might be an elementary question, but have you gone through your talents to pick up more defensive talents? it's helped me a lot. IE; some people run Fluid Form but i toss that shit aside for Ursine Vigor, it's saved me many times

[karmic root]

is anyone else having this issue?

things just go green, details, elvui, etc

[scenic mist]

press motw for starters

and yeah i saw this happen yesterday, relogging did the trick but no clue what it was

[karmic root]

it keeps happening to me every 5 min or so

[scenic mist]

probably, still better ilvl than crafted + has random procs + i still trust you'll press it sometimes

[sullen stone]

there's been some random bugs; yesterday during keys i couldn't cast fury of elune like half the time i wanted to use it, hit the keybind and just nothing. but if i clicked it on another action bar it worked

[digital berry]

Myth track is

The sprocket portal timing weak aura wasn’t working for me yesterday

[scenic mist]

is that a wa telling you when to press gate ?

[digital berry]

Yeah it shows better what time frame you have after the cast to press

[scenic mist]

is there really a need ? i mean, pressing gate right after the cast is 100% winrate right ?

loving this

[eager raft]

mod evasion is not cool

[fiery harness]

How do I know which pull to beam

Is there any dungeon specific guide

[eager raft]

The maxroll guide might have that kinda info

But generally any pull with like 3+ casters is a good time to beam. If you’re playing with a dh you can beam off their Sigil of chains or after their Sigil of silence

[pseudo merlin]

I overlapped beam with sigil on that triple lightning pull in rook and obviously got triple targetted and insta nuked

🙂

[digital berry]

It’s also hella easy to use bis properly since there isn’t a set timing for it it’s just vibes

[round field]

No vibes just macro

Also who the fuck deleted my message

I bet it was thyme

[mighty mica]

must have been the wind

[lofty depot]

Didn't thyme out someone saying r word

[novel copper]

Right?

[round field]

but why does my message get deleted and not the one i reply to

[pseudo merlin]

fuck you

[mighty mica]

didn't see it :)

now it's gone

[round field]

grr

[lofty depot]

Wow thank you, I feel better now

[mighty mica]

shut up

[lofty depot]

[pseudo merlin]

send a ban too just to be sure

[round field]

HEY

[eager raft]

yeah I’m on board with a ban

[round field]

STOP

GASLIGHTING

[pseudo merlin]

That's not what gaslighting means

[weary berry]

if we have bis and hoc do we hold incarn until either one is rdy?

[lofty depot]

Depends on timing of packs

U don't need to press incarn right away when u get it, but ur also shouldn't be incarn-ing halfway thru a pack

[digital berry]

Remember you’re not “holding” incarn until you are at max charges

[drifting nova]

push all the buttons

[lofty depot]

Also depends if ur pulling some small ass pack then something bigger after

Learn the route and figure it out

[weary berry]

eg on candle king when i have 2x incarn w/ lust on pull, do i still hold 2nd incarn for lineup with trinket or just send it

[lofty depot]

Did u read what I said or

[pseudo merlin]

this situation also wont ever happen right

you'd have to be doing something weird to get there

[weary berry]

alright preciate thanks

[pearl yacht]

guys i have stupid question , i have druid balance troll almost full gear score 3200 io and i want to create nightelve for meld should i change faction or create another char and level up in season 3

?

advice me

[grizzled shoal]

they're on sale just buy a swap

[pearl yacht]

really ?

wow 30 % DISCOUNT

[fluid hornet]

I'm new to the game balance zandalari. i am struggling in single target bosses while doing M+. Any advice?

[pearl yacht]

but isn't still expensive , in season 3 i have to change all gear

so if create another char level up with 90k boost lvl betterright ?

[scenic mist]

send a log of you struggling on a boss, we'll start from there

[pseudo merlin]

Odd question

Buy it if you can afford it

If you're asking the question it sounds like you can't

[pearl yacht]

XD

[pseudo merlin]

So make an ew char

[pearl yacht]

okay mr. mucles men

[scenic mist]

he did advertise his question as STUPID

[pseudo merlin]

Don't troll your money away on this game if you're more easily able to afford to spend extra time rather than money

[scenic mist]

honest man

[merry mango]

I am a noob boomy.. do you guys mind if I ask just a few simple questions?

[scenic mist]

this channel is made for this

[pearl yacht]

well u have point

[digital berry]

Next season they’ll add a shadowmeld consumable anyway no ?

[scenic mist]

just read the guide before

[scenic mist]

yes

but on pot cd

[pearl yacht]

ouch

[digital berry]

Eww

[merry mango]

I am doing okay on it.. I am up to about 2k mythic score, but I am just trying to get better

[pearl yacht]

so we can't use tempered potion

[merry mango]

one question, do we pretty much only ever touch wrath just to enter lunar eclipse?

[scenic mist]

exact

[pearl yacht]

fuck it

[scenic mist]

on EC build with lunar inspiration talented, yes

[lofty depot]

If ur playing EC yes

[scenic mist]

you can also remove "pretty much" from the sentence

[pearl yacht]

XD

[craggy sonnet]

oh ye? i think its pretty reasonable to do

[scenic mist]

i agree, just not sendin incarn at the end of 2nd boss, and while doing the rp pull + skip you'd get the 2nd stack up yeah

[merry mango]

is it important to stay in lunar eclipse as much as humanly possible aside from CE windows?

[craggy sonnet]

right

[scenic mist]

CE ?

[merry mango]

celestial alignment

[scenic mist]

but regardless, the key to moonkin is staying in eclipse, yes

[scenic mist]

CA then :p

[lofty depot]

Outside of the start of combat when tank is pulling mobs, yes being in eclipse is how u do damage

[merry mango]

oh lol touche

do you want to enter eclipse BEFORE dotting?

[lofty depot]

If u can outside of combat

[scenic mist]

there is some minmax but the begginers answer is : no

[scenic mist]

dont do this to him

he aint ready

you can see

[lofty depot]

Maybe he would be ready if he read the compendium

[scenic mist]

lmao

i love you arctic know that

[merry mango]

once we start farming astral power do we basically just spam starfall in AOE repeatedly?

[scenic mist]

dot -> eclipse -> starfire spam forever
send starfall whenever you would overcap ASP

[lofty depot]

Farming astral power. Hmmm

[fluid hornet]

I'm too new but I think i got one. Does this work? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/c4JyQ71BL3fGpbdx?fight=last&source=5

[merry mango]

sounds good thank you

[spark anchor]

what do you guys use to check moonfire/sunfire

plater? a wa?

[lofty depot]

My eyes

[spark anchor]

hm

mine broke

[scenic mist]

what boss disapointed you dps wise ?

[lofty depot]

Tragic

Probably get new ones

[merry mango]

there always has to be the guy that is hilarious and cant just answer a question

at least one in every discord

[lofty depot]

U don't use ur eyes or?

[scenic mist]

Oi wa pack

[merry mango]

here he goes again

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAH

[spark anchor]

nah

[scenic mist]

https://wago.io/OiBalance

[spark anchor]

read this

[lofty depot]

Imagine me answering all ur questions and u get mad at a funny response to someone else

[spark anchor]

ty

[lofty depot]

That wasn't towards u

[spark anchor]

ah

working on it tho

shipment coming in soon i think

dunno, couldn't read the date

[fluid hornet]

K.U-J.O for example

[lofty depot]

R u using some shitt plater or

[scenic mist]

lmao i asked before opening the log

[scenic mist]

yeah but on this log you didnt go to this boss right ?

kujo is a fucker anyway, no uptime, just go next

[spark anchor]

eh just something like this tbh

its kinda annoying when i miss like a single mob with sunfire or smth

how important is it to dot everything? is it more of a, how long its going to live angle?

[lofty depot]

Depends what was missed

If ur already in CDs, it's too late

Generally just send and do it after

[lofty depot]

But hit the mobs with Sunfire

[spark anchor]

gucci

heard

[lofty depot]

Seems fine unless u want a better plater

U have the icon, just see which mobs have it yea?

[spark anchor]

is there no wa that like has a x/x for targets with/without

[scenic mist]

it is beyond essential

[spark anchor]

yeah just gets slightly hectic

[spark anchor]

gotcha

[lofty depot]

I mean there is but that doesn't fix ur problem

And the problem persists with u missed a sunfire

U then look at the weakaura and have to find the mob missing it

Instead of just looking for the mob and seeing if there are any

[scenic mist]

hopefully only 1 mob missing and you can trust our lord and savior twin moon

[spark anchor]

mhm thats fair, would be neat to see just so i can keep like seeing how to dot properly and then check if i did it properly

[spark anchor]

or something like this so i can just press a natty moonfire

[lofty depot]

I mean there's one, but I don't have link cuz I don't use it and find it useless

[spark anchor]

understandable

https://wago.io/xqXGZm6lw

found this

[scenic mist]

tbf, if the pack is so big you cant see 1 or 2 mobs are missing 1 dot, it's not that big of a deal

[lofty depot]

Ye sure

[scenic mist]

you just wont damage this add much

suboptimal yes, cause for existential crisis no

[spark anchor]

fair fair, just gotta get more used to it, im used to holding buttons completely till everything is gathered

[scenic mist]

hold buttons but not moonfire

[spark anchor]

aye thats what i mean

[scenic mist]

when they say "hold your fire" they mean starFIRE

[spark anchor]

im used to just sitting completely afk, more of not a threat thing, but enh has small range on thinsg

[spark anchor]

lol

[golden belfry]

Just have to moonfire different adds on gather, don't rely on tab target either

Get 2 moonfires if you cast on a mob without it already applied

[spark anchor]

why no tab target? its what i've been doing at the moment

it seems to go in an order that lets me hit everything

and not overlap

[golden belfry]

Can def overlap

[scenic mist]

while we wait for a full run log (cause this is next to unexploitable), main ST things are : keep your target dotted, stay in eclipse as much as possible, spend ASP on the beggining of the eclipse, stay at 3 starlords stacks as often as possible, pull ASP before mvt phases so you're not idle while moving, maximise casting uptime, dont die

[spark anchor]

gotcha, might have just not noticed

[lofty depot]

Mouseover

Because I don't always want to hit everything and u want to target the most important mobs not just random shitters

[golden belfry]

14+ mob pack i.e. first pull of FG is the difference between 8 casts and 12+

Mouseover moonfire ftw

[spark anchor]

gotcha gotcha

[ebon vigil]

anyone had some issues with wrath after the patch? randomly cant use wrath after CA runs out

either have to rebind the button or reload for wrath to work

=))

[lofty depot]

On ptr or

[ebon vigil]

no this is on live

[lofty depot]

Cuz I had my trees button fuggn tilt me yesterday

Hmm, curious.

[golden belfry]

Trees tilted me on rik countless times

Randomly just not casting, beautiful game

[ebon vigil]

https://streamable.com/22nnsa look at this shit

[sour gale]

based on prelim testing on ptr is EC finally viable in st? I detest KOTG.

[lofty depot]

Prelim testing doesn't matter because there will be a bunch of nerfs and buffs still

But casting Starfire is more detestable than trees. That's on jah

[meager storm]

if there is a council fight with stacked bosses perhaps ec will be good on raid but i dont think it will be better on st

gotta wait for testing

and the sims

[lofty depot]

Council fight is 3 DHs

Idk about "stacked"

[meager storm]

well if the surges go out its all that matters

[lofty depot]

Watch the vdh randomly silence sigil people

I'll tilt

[cloud citrus]

He gonna grip sigil you into a silence sigil into fear sigil

[lofty depot]

I pre alter time

[cloud citrus]

o your a mage

[lofty depot]

spit

[cloud citrus]

gross

[lofty depot]

Likely go back to bamkin

We will see

[round field]

nah

no way

ec ever gets good in raid

fuck casting starfire

[scenic mist]

jokes on you

you press twice while i just wc

[lofty depot]

It's off gcd

Have fun pressing wc tho

[scenic mist]

also off gcd btw

[sullen stone]

when will dreamgrove get a cool server tag

[pseudo merlin]

Never

[sullen stone]

"BALD" is a great one

[pseudo merlin]

DG is too cool for a tag

[exotic perch]

what tag would it use anyway

[pseudo merlin]

BALD isn't a tag, it's a way of life

[sullen stone]

"BOOMR"

[pseudo merlin]

that's 5

[sullen stone]

you can sneak in a 5th i think with weird characters

[pseudo merlin]

DEAD

[midnight bough]

11.2 balance changes summary?

[pseudo merlin]

not moonkin

[exotic perch]

void

[sullen stone]

DRUD

[pseudo merlin]

it's over

wait

no we get 3% AOE dmg reduction

[exotic perch]

very pog that is one change

[pseudo merlin]

I N S A N E

[exotic perch]

i would prefer the stam from cat form tho

feral tier

[pseudo merlin]

real

cat shouldve been MS

[sullen stone]

reduction? 🥹

[pseudo merlin]

3% aoe dam bear

5% sta chicken

[midnight bough]

3% nerf aoe?

[pseudo merlin]

what

[midnight bough]

Isn't that what you said?

[pseudo merlin]

There's no way you interpret "3% aoe dmg reduction" as a 3% aoe nerf

[sullen stone]

i think troll

[pseudo merlin]

No pepega doesn't troll

[sullen stone]

i meant you xD

[pseudo merlin]

We get 3% aoe dmg reduction through lycara

no?

[sullen stone]

ooo

[midnight bough]

By 3% dmg reduction in think you mean 3% less damage that balance takes

[pseudo merlin]

That's what I mean yes, just please don't phrase it as if the mistake in communication is on my end

[scenic mist]

DGEN

DreamGroveENergy

[sullen stone]

its got my vote

[pseudo merlin]

DGEN is good

[midnight bough]

When i read it's over and 3% reduction i thought you meant that damage is being reduced by that. Reduction = reduce but with different tenses

[scenic mist]

lots of words to say 3% avoidance

[lofty depot]

Yea scroll up from what he said and u might find ur answer

[royal zenith]

what would be a good servertag for DG?

DUDU

[sudden pawn]

dead specs

[scenic mist]

#balance message

[royal zenith]

froyo tf..

[sudden pawn]

[royal zenith]

I said good

not CRINGE

[sudden pawn]

that is good

[royal zenith]

😠

[sudden pawn]

noob ho

[lofty depot]

If he wanted cringe he would said Deux

[meager storm]

KOTG

[royal zenith]

fight me

KOTG is not bad

[pseudo merlin]

but its not avoidance right

[royal zenith]

@wicked shuttle thoughts on servertag

what acronym

[pseudo merlin]

TETL

[royal zenith]

TETL LMAO

do it

[scenic mist]

how so ?

[pseudo merlin]

In no way other than it literally doesn't say that and is written out word for word

idk why they're not writing 3% avoidance

but they didn't right

[scenic mist]

read avoidance tooltip pls

[pseudo merlin]

Bro read

[wicked shuttle]

MOON

[royal zenith]

also not bad

[pseudo merlin]

MOON is clever

[royal zenith]

MOON / DUDU / KOTG

[pseudo merlin]

But what about the other druid specs

(fuck em)

[royal zenith]

we need more

[scenic mist]

DGEN

[royal zenith]

no

go away

[wicked shuttle]

Bc it isn’t affected by the avoidance Stat Dr

[scenic mist]

i'll push to the end

[wicked shuttle]

It’s not avoidance

[pseudo merlin]

ah that's it then

makes sense

[scenic mist]

yeah this is the only reason it doesnt say 3% avoidance

yet it's an easy way to depict it

especially since avoidance dr arent a thing outside of tournament realms ig

[wicked shuttle]

Yeah its a reasonable way to depict it. It’s not avoidance though.

It’s better!

[scenic mist]

true
same goes for zephyr

slightly better

[lofty depot]

ORNG

Ezpz

[royal zenith]

stands for what..

ORANGE?

[lofty depot]

Yea idiot

[scenic mist]

duh

[royal zenith]

okay why did you not remove the O then

[wicked shuttle]

CHKN

[royal zenith]

CHKN LOL

don't dislike it

[scenic mist]

other specs wont accept

[lofty depot]

BEAR

TREE

DCAT

[charred mango]

KITY

[lofty depot]

Or would be FERL

[royal zenith]

DCAT sounds like a metric in my work

[lofty depot]

Dumb Cat

[wicked shuttle]

good thing it goes off representation

[lofty depot]

FUR

[wicked shuttle]

and we have more chickens than the rest of the dreamgrove has residents

combined

[royal zenith]

not wrong

[lofty depot]

Can it only be 4 letters?

[royal zenith]

we can claim dominance...

[scenic mist]

can be less

[royal zenith]

well or 3

or 2

[lofty depot]

Well 4 max?

[scenic mist]

y

[lofty depot]

Tragic

[scenic mist]

thats 6

[royal zenith]

you can also just do DG

[scenic mist]

dumbass

[royal zenith]

but that's kinda lame??

[lofty depot]

Shut up dumb bitch

[wicked shuttle]

🐔 🐱 🌲 🐻

[pseudo merlin]

He got you good there

1-0 arcty

[royal zenith]

[scenic mist]

can you use 4 icons ?

[royal zenith]

we can't add icons right

no the first icon is like

set

you can only pick like 6

or 8

[wicked shuttle]

idk i thought i was cooking though

[scenic mist]

you were tbh

[wicked shuttle]

what about symbols

[pseudo merlin]

Wait boomies are unironically the majority in here?

[lofty depot]

Yea instead of letters make it emojis

[royal zenith]

basically this

[scenic mist]

this wouldve been better tho

[lofty depot]

So true

[royal zenith]

what type of symbol?

[sudden pawn]

wait are we actually getting a tag?

[royal zenith]

lemme test

I'm thinking of tags

[wicked shuttle]

(^)>

[royal zenith]

serious tags

[lofty depot]

Skull cuz we're floor pov

[scenic mist]

thats 4 i dig

[lofty depot]

Fire cuz we are Fire chicken users

[scenic mist]

mushroom right ?

[signal temple]

Chicken arise
Arise chicken

[royal zenith]

you can do this> (^)>

[royal zenith]

I didn't save it but yea

[lofty depot]

Mushroom cuz idk

[royal zenith]

I mean

the purple crescent sorta is in line

or the leaf

but who wants to be a leaf in this day and age...

[scenic mist]

naruto ig

[lofty depot]

Actually wait

[wicked shuttle]

those bozos 3 channels down

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

It has to be the purple moon thing

[wicked shuttle]

sunk cost fallacy

can only play leaf

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

This is us

[scenic mist]

STAR

[eager raft]

No

[royal zenith]

I mean, you can

[eager raft]

dudu

[scenic mist]

this is a baby bib

[eager raft]

dudu

Or riot

[scenic mist]

wrong game tho

[lofty depot]

No its elune symbol

That's us dood

[pseudo merlin]

That's a creepy clowns mouth with a nose, missing the eyes somehow

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

Shut up hunter

[scenic mist]

FLAP / BEAK / OWLS

[pseudo merlin]

You can't tell me you don't see it

Can't just be me

[scenic mist]

no i see it

wish i didnt tho

[lofty depot]

Disrespecting elune is crazy

[scenic mist]

well
she had the audacity of saying "i sent all my favorite children to you" after the Sylvy genocide

[pseudo merlin]

I wish Elune would disrespect me

[sullen perch]

anyone else having an issue where for like 20second, when you shit into bear form, it keeps swapping in and out of it on its own?

[scenic mist]

another 11.1.7 flavor

[sullen perch]

mmm...juicy

[warm briar]

sounds painful

[pseudo merlin]

shit into bear form?

[pseudo merlin]

known issue. I think it's related to hold down casting. Try disabling that.

[sullen perch]

yeah, i've never had it enabled

[scenic mist]

try opting out of hold to cast setting

[pseudo merlin]

Try enabling it

yolo

[sullen perch]

yeah, just enabled and disabled /reload and stopped

[pseudo merlin]

lmao

[scenic mist]

cant break something that doesnt work

[pseudo merlin]

this game is breaking down

[eager raft]

Dudu

[royal zenith]

N O P E

🙂

[pseudo merlin]

what about DEUX

Just to confuse people

[lofty depot]

I like DEUX

And that as the symbol

[pseudo merlin]

[royal zenith]

No 😠

[lofty depot]

I'm sure we can even get all the other chats on board 🙂

[midnight bough]

Deez

[royal zenith]

stinky

[pseudo merlin]

some people are turbo pogging rn

vers enjoyers 🤮

Vers has like 0 vibe value

[quiet drift]

You get tankier

[royal zenith]

[eager raft]

Bro it was literally your idea

[pseudo merlin]

true

[royal zenith]

wrong

:3

[pseudo merlin]

he dm'd me to suggest it

[eager raft]

I’m gonna leak

[wet stump]

are we supposed to use starfall on first boss of DFC?

[royal zenith]

if you want to pad the meters, sure

[pseudo merlin]

no

[wet stump]

not trying to pd thats why i ask

[quiet drift]

When cart is up

[wet stump]

when cart is up do we

ok

i was told to dump starsurge into it

[quiet drift]

Ye if its not dying

[pseudo merlin]

if it's not dying sure

[quiet drift]

U need to surge

[royal zenith]

whatever takes prio you kill with starsurges

[wet stump]

kk will do ty 😄

[pseudo merlin]

playing boomie on stix be like

[proper sinew]

Very ethical

[drifting nova]

pad master general

[scenic mist]

lmao

you know you are authorized to wrath and starsurge too ?

[formal crest]

Login slayer tasks

[drifting nova]

???

[eager raft]

vote dudu

[drifting nova]

I do not vote for anything

[royal zenith]

you are literally not part of any vote

so that's good

[formal crest]

Surprised kekkers ain’t wearing his colors

[drifting nova]

in this weather? wearing anything is out of the question

[pseudo merlin]

what are those

[scenic mist]

i figured as much yeah

you have like what, 40-50 wraths ?

did the boss die in 2:30 or ?

[pseudo merlin]

4

boostees

[scenic mist]

4:40 ttk and i sent 109 wraths

you're just a starfire enjoyer arent you

[eager raft]

surprised u can still play moonkin

[pseudo merlin]

stop casting wrath until they remove eclipses

[eager raft]

The buttons don’t light up telling u which one to press

Must b hard

[pseudo merlin]

not wrong

btw why did they take our pulsar

[scenic mist]

something about clunkyness

[formal crest]

Sucked

[scenic mist]

sucked more to get nothing in return tbh

[formal crest]

Is your spec still broken rav

[eager raft]

truly my saddest day in recent memory

pulsar my beloved

[pseudo merlin]

I loved pulsar

[pseudo merlin]

no

[royal zenith]

Pulsar is for the lamo's

I WaNt MoRe EnGaGiNg GamEPlAY

[formal crest]

Pulsar was annoying

[pseudo merlin]

Deux be like

WHAT IS ENGAGING?!!?!?!?

IT MEANS NOTHING

😡

[royal zenith]

exactly..

it's better to say "I want to FEEL my class"

[pseudo merlin]

quick

what is blue

left?

[royal zenith]

than say engaging

[pseudo merlin]

sprocky?

[royal zenith]

left

ye

on pull

[eager raft]

I’m gonna do it

[quiet drift]

On strike

[eager raft]

deux been pushing my buttons all day I’m about to break

[royal zenith]

do it

[quiet drift]

Pushing?

[royal zenith]

show your real face

[quiet drift]

High key push

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-league-league-of-legends-business-gif-21789454

[quiet drift]

I love m+

[royal zenith]

that's a lie..

[pseudo merlin]

GO off king

[eager raft]

If I proc he wins

[royal zenith]

:)

[scarlet tapir]

cant believe im mirroring another evoker cause i dont wanna play anything else next tier

https://tenor.com/view/csgo-banging-table-angry-mad-rage-quit-gif-17478101

[pseudo merlin]

STOP DOINGMYTHIC+
DUNGEONS WERE NOT MEANT TO SCALE
YEARS OF M+
yet NO REAL-WORLD USE FOUND
for KEYSTONES
Wanted to gdet better gear? We had a tool for
that: It was called"RAlDING"
"Yes please give me +26 of something. Please give me
BOLSTERING ofit" - Statements dreamed up by THE UTTERLY
DERANGED
LOOK at what PVE'ers have been demanding your Respect
for all this time, with all the dungeons & routes we built for them
(This is REALcontent done by REAL
players ):
???????
????????????????
"Hello I would like a +34 fortified awakened bolstoring, mechagon volcaric junkyard please"
They have played us for absolute fools

[eager raft]

Gave up on Hunter that quick huh

[royal zenith]

play dh

[scarlet tapir]

no its more like, my rl wants us to have something useful if we need on prog

and since we alr have any niche class covered and like 3 hunters

might aswell do another evoker and play the one with better first vault or something

[formal crest]

I am so happy about the latest wowhead post stating they are done with mythic + after season 3. Omg man, what a change

[scarlet tapir]

no way?

[eager raft]

how would a 2nd evoker be useful on prog

cmon twist

[scenic mist]

I mean its okay guys. Got it. You boomies are in an fortunate m+ spot and relatively strong in raid content, but still that doesnt change the comparison between a static challenge and a dynamic one. M+ is skillcap. Raid is choreography...

[formal crest]

They are busted

[eager raft]

??????? His main is an evoker

[formal crest]

Maybe now that m+ will be removed after next season we will be good in raid

[eager raft]

He’s already an evoker

How would having a 2nd one help

[proper sinew]

Yeah, they are making raiding+ which will be 8 man infinite scaling raids

[formal crest]

I mean you think I’m joking. It’s on wowhead

[eager raft]

does the moderation team allow the deliberate spreading of misinformation?

[formal crest]

The boss dies faster? Idk if you have seen a good one they do like way more than the next best lmao.

Are you saying twist is bad?

[eager raft]

cyon u are either being obtuse

Or not understanding

[scenic mist]

this is why most people dont use this discord its full of idiots

[eager raft]

Either way I am done interacting with you

[formal crest]

Green juice rubber goose

[royal zenith]

considering you will bring one evoker to splits

or well, both

[formal crest]

Looked in the mirror lately?

[royal zenith]

but one will get funneled

the other will have scuffed gear either way

[scenic mist]

baited lmao

[eager raft]

and if they need something useful for different prog comps

A mirror doesn’t help

Whoever called Arctic a loser

Is the goat

[lofty depot]

giant snake, chocolate cake

[formal crest]

Sorry I’ve never read that whole list the good ones are paragraphs long

[formal crest]

Ty

[scenic mist]

true, i started with one

#balance message

but some oneliners are bangers

[peak night]

birthday cake you fake fairly odd parents fan

[formal crest]

Bro said chocolate cake instead of shake

I just noticed

[scarlet tapir]

because im gonna play evoker regardless

so i just keep the bettter one after first week

on nerubar palace the druid i wasnt gonna play got hc spymasters on first vault

and ended up being the one i played

type shit

[lofty depot]

oh tragic

thought it sounded weird

[formal crest]

How dare you

[lofty depot]

ahhhhhh it was chocolate shake

smh

[pseudo merlin]

chocolate snake?

[lofty depot]

read the word again

dork

[pseudo merlin]

steak?

[karmic root]

how do you guys sim for mplus? do you do the MDT sim

[scenic mist]

MDT sim and 1t5m are the 2 supported format

[pseudo merlin]

I think most of us probably sim 1t5m

aint nobody got time for mdt

[scenic mist]

i know i do

[scenic mist]

this

[agile nimbus]

is there any guide on specific bosses? ie when to use cds etc? Looking for a bandit atm

[pseudo merlin]

lorrrgs.io

idk if the compendium has a per boss section

[agile nimbus]

thanks ❤️

[scenic mist]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/raids/liberation_of_undermine?roles=Balance%2CDPS

@agile nimbus

[pseudo merlin]

holy shit the compendium has everything

sorry for doubting

@lucid olive

[scenic mist]

you actually made next to no effort

[pseudo merlin]

No effort and you ended up doing it all for me

I call that a W

[scenic mist]

dont forget to add me

to your discord

losing hair by the second

[pseudo merlin]

show pic proof of baldness with a note saying "I'm a bald french fuck -Ashtika"

[scenic mist]

are the misspelling on my pseudo a requierment ?

[pseudo merlin]

No. But like don't actually. I don't want to see you.

why is the fork invisible

[rocky saddle]

how are you boomies speccing bran for delves? had to switch to bear to get thorugh a t8

[scenic mist]

look at me now

never go there

(spec him healer)

never go there

[rocky saddle]

healer copy

i had him as tank thinking i could just throw a few regrowths on him but that didnt work out

[round oracle]

ye just healer and run over health potions

[scenic mist]

yeah he's weak af he's getting blasted to oblivion

[rocky saddle]

well i got the belt so probably no more delves

[scenic mist]

why t8 instead of t1 tho

[rocky saddle]

figured i'd get some bountiful rewards

[digital berry]

at least you didnt do the first quest on an 11 like me, that was not a good idea

[hallow spire]

ayo I hear we are getting invites to the bald brothers' discord. Hook a fellow chrome dome up

[craggy sonnet]

why not