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did 3m on a bandit pull
Ah ok so you’re missing like 2 casts of trees over a fight then to sync them up with voke always?
that has been giving me the largest average dps and surges
0:00 Ca convoke Trees x0 surges 0:55 Ca Convoke Trees x2 surge 1:40 Ca Trees x4 surge 2 start 2 end
Why wouldn’t you surge in first CA
Yeah ok
but theres no buffed surges
That’s what I thought
then come 2 in 2nd and 4 in third
then convoke + trees twice without CA
then do it all again
And then 2nd you lead with 2 surges but you could surge as much as you want, no?
yea you can surge until ur dryad ends
Until dryad over?
but 2 surges + convoke ends the dryad anyway
you might be able to get 1 more b4 it ends after the convoke
Oh 1 min voke
ye
You’d be gambling with than one extra but yeah
highest igot was a 148 + 97 mil
Depends if it counts on cast or on spell hit
with Priory first CA -> BiS 2nd CA -> 40k int trinket from raid Last CA
its on cast not spell hit
i tested that aswell
Well it’ll be fun until they put a cd on it
Ok but you have none of those next tier
if they just reduce the buff duration its already over
but yea 500mil in 2s gcd then 140 mil next 2 gcds kinda nuts
Yeah
prirory is a trinket next tier so is the 40k int trinket
They just need to make the buff 20s
Yeah that’s all they gotta do
noone say anything about the debuff duration :>
i enjoy it a lot
Interesting for sure
the current boomkin is boring as hell
idk, other boomy had 21m in full moon damage from convoke but i didnt even get a single convoke, still out damaged him but idk 21 million for free feels very tragic not to get
Yeah but that gameplay isn’t making it better
i mean it adds depth to it
doh appearently i was the only one who enjoyed Natures Grace when it had damage tied to it
You didn’t get a since convoke ?
also why is the dryad not bound to trees?
Beats whatever we have now
ye it dryad was on trees would probs be better
Also mad weird but trees cd too short I guess
meant to say a single moon in my convoke
sorry typing between pulls lol
No I liked that
But if you want snapshot gameplay why wouldn’t you be playing arcane mage instead
You are guaranteed a moon in every convoke or every other, cant remember
The whole deck thing is every other iirc
I mean anything but what we have is good, any variance or interesting interaction between effects
If it’s the same as flourish procs
My Guild told me im not allowed to play arcane mage
noob rotation question and apologize if this is not the appropriate place to ask: do you need to cycle back and forth between lunar and solar eclipses or can you just go back into the same eclipse dependent upon what you're fighting (ie, wrath on single target and starfire for cleave)? i've checked guides and watched videos but i couldn't find anything super clear on this regard. assistance is greatly appreciated!
or anything except boomy or feral
theres no way
your lying to me
No need to cycle
With 1 minute convoker you have 50% chance to get a moon
Can go back to either eclipse
Not possible
Literally
i wish
its 25% chance per convoke after 4 your gaurenteed one
I miss pulsar
Yeah it doesn’t work like that lol, you get one an encounter basically
I miss old rattle
Bring her back
ive had 11 pulls and got 2 moons the entire nighjt
I mean unless your pulls are literally 2 minutes long before wipe I guess
ive been looking and crying
Yeah at least that did something
But what if you died with pulsar thats why they removed it
Yeah if you’re wiping after first convoke ig that’s possible
Then perhaps you shouldn’t be cooking Boomie snapshots either 
Blame healer
Pfft they only dont let me because i tried mage once and my first boss i was in was tindral
and we have 3 mages
thank you!
Thank you!
What if you die with your stupid 4x buffed surges
What if fight ends before you get the last buffed surges
Parsing would be a nightmare for speed clearers
Yeah but what I’m saying is
As tier goes on
You’ll not finish that last CA that some random in a guild that can’t kill the boss as fast as you did… and you lose out on ranks because of it
this already happens
I mean you will loose out on ranks just because your 2 omega buffed surges don’t crit
Sure but you’re not infinitely stacking a damage buff rn
This too
No but every second after 2:30 you lose out a heap of damage
It’s just cringe gameplay
right now
you are not with this either
cant go further than 3 CAs
Yea 3 is the Max then reset
and also im sad parsing already with my convoke not coming back up
Tbh if they balance the dmg buff and reduce the duration to make it impossible to chain id be down
no please let me chain
but then its legit nothingburger as well
like
its just cast spells
and then cast 2 surges
end of CA
ye you jsut cast 2 surges at the end of your cas
wooow
and they hit for like half the damage
This is also nothing burger
this is fun you can actually see the chain effect for BIG DAM
this is pretty big hitting burger
You’re just forcing yourself in to the most boring gameplay imaginable so you can buff 2 spells every minute
its tight as hell
????
Ok so does every second in incarn
and then its insane for your last ca
It’s all the same gameplay
Except rn I don’t have to press starfall in st
Like a pdf
is that why u hate it
Huh
Literally afk brain for 50s is not fun
you already do that
even mroe now then when you get the new tier set
like legit nothing changes the entire fight
theres no tight timers nothing
you jsut press buttons when they light up
That’s what we do now?
Right now the gameplay is just wrath spam into a couple surges
That’s literally it
So you’re agreeing it’s the same gameplay and it’s just a more cringe version of it
rank 1 mythic gally boss damage boyos!
It’s a more involved version of it
Instead of giving us actual skill expression you wanna go full RNG
Heyyyyy uhhhh can you boomies throw a mini riot and get some actual changes for our spec please thank you thank you peace and love peace and love
There’s skill expression in not losing uptime during the dryad windows
We been trying
I’m trying but these apes want to play the same gameplay but TIGHTER!!!!
We are not getting a complete rework in season 3, take your blessings
I miss playing my moonkin so much it’s just so boring bro 😭
so how is shadow looking
shadow looks crazy
they get some proc halos
There was skill expression in managing pulsar, rattle and starlord but apparently that wasn’t fun gameplay 🙂
you still can manage starlord
cool cool
Do the proc halos proc MFI
i dont play that spec idk
If so they get like 8 MFI in their 1 mins
just read the shit
Im not arguing what we have now is better ? Why are you so angsty at people enjoying something new ?
Will all your CDs still desync in raid spec
yea killing rage
Because I don’t want to “yippeeee” at unintended gameplay mechanic that makes the spec just as boring outside of 30s total in the first 2-3 mins of the fight?
we get to goon over 1:45min opener
1:45 opeenr FEELS GUD
You don’t have to join in
Yeah I think that’s huge QOL for m+
god comp might be back
Boomy gona be right their unless they fix the tier cause we gonna be PUMPING like an arcane mage
with my 3% reduced aoe
Yeah the EC tier set looks insane for m+
I know, it’s why I’m not lmao
ye full aoe Elunes has so much conisstant damage
Someone get the boomie council on the forums bro 😭
howver 0 burst so imma just play Keeper cause BIG DAM
There already is a post
theres a 40k int burst trinket nad prirory
inshallah EC in raid 
Did the buff to charged bolts change anything for belt selection in m+?
have u considered i have a lot of mastery
that might be kinda crazy
i ahve 35k mastery atm
32k on retail with pop at mastery
You gonna Starfire more?
ill think about it
Hi guys, need some help. Am i simming it wrong? its asking me to replace the meta gem too
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gtLVFg9jh7Q5te7DnJCfWx
I'm a M+ only scrub so I hope EC is still the way to go 
i think it will be once tier is a little nerfed from Keeper
its far more aoe sustained whereas keeper is super bursty prio target offcleave
its nice to have both types of damage though so we can take arcane spots while keeping our spot as FULL AOE GOD aswell if we choose to
my healer does
stix isnt on all star points so who gives a fuck
u also do like z dps to the adds on oab
unless u have like no range
almost convinced this fysh guy has only ever seen purple parses and is here to rage bait on cd
Where? I don’t see it in the main development feedback section
OH NO
rae starts playing dps and becomes toxic
crazy work
God forbid a dude has an opinion
delete this
yeah but its less cringe with FOE
tbh i like them both so id be cool with some ec raiding
why would you
I dont know what you mean
You're allowed to have one, just not allowed to express it.

piss names arent allowed opinions
true ☝🏿

that tag is illegal sir
why is 1 button rotation so good
its not

so how many people are just using charged bolts for M+
hello niko
what weakaura
allo 
anybody got an mrt note for mythic bandit for their cds?
based
wait theres too many of my guildies here
Niko a fuckin chatter
yet he never says anything in raid. just whispers me for innervate on cd. curious.

healers are so fucking needy man
just rejuve and put the fries in the bag
It entirely depends on order so it’s a bit scuffed but check lorgs
Gonna need u to stop tweeting with an opinion like that
agreed tbh
yo did we get buffed
fr i feel like im doing too much damage
Is mugz down ?
Couldn’t tune in today
CHAT SAYS YOURE HERE WTF
I JUST joined
It took us 2 days to kill first reclears aswell
yeah wtf are you high @clever vigil ??
some people should not have internet
if that's ur vision u need glasses
So true
U can vision urself as a frost mage
yuck frost
still better than arcane ig
every set is ugly as shit
weve only killed one boss
what in the giga fuck is that
thats us when our tier piece procs as Elune with star surges
So next season they will undertune our spenders to do less dmg than wrath
If any button we press we shot starsurge
Machine gun boomie with rubber bullets
as god intended
theres a reason our EC tier set only procs Starsurges when you gain AP by casting Starfire
clever way of not making us perma spam Starfire and overcap
Yeah the wording is so obvious too about it
What’s the over under for our keeper 4p getting nerfed to oblivion?
inv antm
geega shad
GEEEEEEEEEEGA SHAD
Fuck off deux
u get a funny dryad when u press CA
after she despawns your next 2 surges does more dmg based on dmg done when she was up

Ye im just joking
I dont dislike the tier
Cant wait to see china gamer
Who gets surge every starfire
you proc some dmg and then later do more dmg
yep
I like the ec one more
would have liked something a bit more interactive perhaps
Listening
I think the tier sets are cool, but it might be because all tier sets since Vault have been dogshit
making tier sets tied to hero trees instead of spec is kinda cool though
hopefully they take some of these effects and bake them into the trees
I feel its very cool
Issue is our trees kinda blow
he pull up
go my minons
Me when I pull up with Goldrin Faeries Dryads and Treants
can u test anything on ptr yet
yes
Ye
ok so where is the dryad gif
Lol give me a minute

Just dodge roll bro

gif maybe a bit too big idk
Holy shes fucking SENDING IT
Probably isnt affected by mastery or some shit 
surely thats just on simc github to check
big starsurger
yung 39m crit
no biggie
kinda need those to crit
hello guys, what is our best enchant for M+? Ive been using radiant power but the group Im running with says I should change to Stonebound ARtistry?
You should sim it if you rly care
Either mastery or haste depending on your guy
Dont think Radiant power is too far behind
What is the best way to sim for M+? I only see patchwerks which I dont know if thats the best way to sim for this
i just did a round of CDs really
could be in combat longer
MDT sims
to check there
Guide is in compendium
damn
Oh wow I never did that, Ill look into it for sure
so 1.7M is min hit
its also with incarn bounteous talents
the incarn only rly matters for the crit chance i guess
ts tuf
Just reroll
hey at least you found something to bitch about again @round field be happy!
Ur right...
Ill always find something to bitch about

back to the game since bfa, idk what have they done to our spec
EC still struggles from the same thing as always I think
like if I wanna play it ST then wtf do I drop
seems like Umbral Inspiration is the only saccable talent really
maybe astro impact and mushroom, but are you gonna take cosmos over them??
can't take soul of the forest cause you spam Starfire
Goldrin?
cant not be playing Lvoke
which prob isn't a choice if goldrinn works with the free starsurge procs
@pure python what do i reroll to
Denizens do too much damage that not being able to take it is just going to make KOTG be ahead i think
Cannot be melee
I had a hc pull where denizen did sub 1%
or close to it
Just go evoker
🙈
yeah denizens got some big swings
just spawn them
proc 2 of them in your CDs and you're blasting
The amount of RNG variance sources this spec has is crazy
ahhh there was no glyph of stars in my inventory when i copied my character!!
oh yeah, name all of them..
You can add belt to the list
yur
Yday on mugzee kek
Convoke, Starsurge crits, Goldrin, Denizen, Belt, Mushrooms, Touch of the Cosmos
Umbral Embrance maybe? idk dont rly track it
Some pulls burst 9mil, some pulls burst 5 mil
Me when i cast more spells than the other 2 boomkins but do less dmg than both
mine popped off..
Ewwwww
U ignore 99% of mechanics ofc u cast more

already did 

Trial diff...
I havent hit barrells
Since week 1
Yes
No
Just get stacks then full st
I dont even get stacks
its
One starfall should get u stacks
just like the MC
I cant play evoker
random if its 0.5s instantly breaks
or you get MC:ed full health infinite duration
😂😂 didnt u starfall whole last phase OAB????
the EC 4pc stacks to 6 apparently
so caps at 24% dmg increase
Its reverse padding...
how many seconds
They arent on logs
12
On prog
Motw hkpw inbound...
I did what chicken told me..
Fair enough 🙈
I heard some wolves in there when I was pressing Starfire
Based
Touch the Cosmos also probably dogshit with EC tier set
since you want to build -> spend -> build -> spend
well Cosmos doesn't spend AP innit
and the 2pc only procs when Starfire generates AP
so you probably just want to alternate Starfire -> Starsurge and just keep from casting Starfire at 100
What is Average hit of Starfire
eyo broskies what belt skill are u guys using? i used charged bolts on 15 psf
only did 2% damage
overall
whats a good addon to get spell IDs
idtip
Aren't they on Wowhead if you look up the spell?
guess they didn't fix CA breaking when you swap between Whirling and OS
@pallid bay guess the number for the 4pc is just in the tooltip..
4434083 more damage 

Whats duration of dryad
Hows it feel to play with haven’t tried yet
unsure yet
So boomie even more bursty st now?

Looking better for raid next season then?
After reading for 2 seconds i've come to the conclusion they need to hard nerf boomkin, thoughts?
yep
dont remember asking the cat
do you want raid rerollers to flood the channel as well as minigamer rerollers

Full time progging in dad guilds is where it’s at

Jesus
we're getting so nerfed thanks to gamz
Hide the logs gamz!!
(watch other specs hit for 60m)
LOCKED IN
Consecutively

Ahahahaha peak
xDDDDDDDD
hahahahahaha
what the fuck 
wtf is that
its 2 surges right
there's NO way that this early into a PTR there's weird shit surrounding a tierset
CRAZY!!
🍄
rip the homie
time to make highscore aura
REAL
xd
i tried to make a weakaura track the number but too stupid
with the new 2 min balefire trinky 
i also don't know how the tier set accumulates cause i've only been hitting ST dummy
was hitting over 70m on aoe, kinda funky bugged af tho
I've seen enough nerf boomkin by 50%
ye
probably gonna reset on encounter start
but testing that on PTR is so tedious
guys dont pad on adds..
cause for some reason even 5 year olds raids get scaled up to raid testing ILVL
need surges to hit hard..
i found out the hard way when I tried to test COTD resetting in 11.1 PTR and thought i'd go to Aberrus and test it there..
druid tier non druid tier
iqnidh
into another druid tier
spent 10 minutes clearing the trash before Kazzara..
i am NOT playing melee
Bro doesnt know the EP tech
You can get to Sivara with stealth and easy reset boss too
can't get there
its fine..
I miss her
Which one is this
buff disappeared on encounter start ye
Non or druid tier
Starsurge dmg in Elune's chosen from new tier does almost negative dmg lol
this was druid tier
so now its non druid tier
amirdrassil was druid
nerubar was dk
undermine was druid
and now next raid needs to be some non druid again
but hmm
play DH since we get the new spec in 11.2.5
Real
seems very likely
if we get a new DH spec Im playing it
this icon got datamined..
👀
WHAT IF ITS A CASTER DH SPEC
also theres the optional fight in the raid
with 3 demon hunters
and 1 of them is void themed

also noet that the fight is optional
No ur banned bro
Probably just a reclour like warlocks got with green fel stuff
surely
This is real?
a new support spec for dh like aug
nope he made it up
I assume we dont use charged bolts as balance right? I tried it on mythic mugzee and it wasnt doing much damage overall do you all just use mastery/haste buffs?
i drew it on a piece of paper and used my HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP to scan it..
Psure charged bolts is by far the best in ST
"pins"
Ill retry it again my next raid night
I will play charged bolts
Oh I guess that makes sense it might be hitting the shielded adds
(cause I cba farming anything else)
i havent even logged in to retail..
What is this.. as if there isn't a lot of fake stuff floating around nowadays. Just wanted to know where it came from
i'm on the yearly Minecraft arc
from the game data?
as he said?
Can I ask to confirm?
no

Since you can also just troll?
asking = bannable actually
at least it will be when we reinstate janitor @royal zenith
never
he would never
make me janitor
🙅♂️
first course of action - banning arctic
Oi as janitor I wouldn't survive the weekend
valid choice
I say 1 bad thing about swedes and I'm out insta..
No wowhead post, so couldn't believe it
he made it up..
Knew it
oi for mod right NOW
so true, wowhead = very trustworthy website
wowhead datamine on ptr
frost dk breath
mmo-champion to
mmo has the icons
thats so funny

scroll down on mmo-champion's front page they have new icons coming with the patch its a real icon
dimensussy
back to the void
suneee
convince chicken to let me play dh
imagine the
entire tier
full of content
iqnidh clips
its worth dropping 100 world ranks right?

now convince chicken
?
this
?
Who’s ready to fly on the last boss
spoiler: the boss that will eat the world if he wins dies at the end and the world of azeroth lives on to a new expansion
YOU MEAN THE FINAL BOSS DIES?!?? NOOO

We will die and void wins
is this bait
proof????
that'd be a banger end to wow
first guild reaches the last boss
it wipes them
wow servers shut down
gg
Lmao
"we felt like a big bad like Dimensius should have some real stakes connected to it"

What did they even do to solar beam
you sure about that buddy?
i did spoiler it..
Thought they removed the AoE thing but I can’t read
nah then it'd be solar ray
As in silencing in that area if mobs step in it
V true
you get one shot at dimensius .. if you lose your char is lost to the void, do not pass go do not collect 200$
Sorry, I'm sure this has been asked a million times, is control the dream still bugged? Do we stil need to switch talents between wipes?
yes
thanks!
engulf already hitting that hard

guy got 100M+ last night
so yea
kinda insane
dunno if you followed that convo at all
no
you can technically carry the buff across 3 CAs
and cumulate the previous surges in the following dryad window
Wouldnt that require you to like not press starsurge
Also doesnt the buff only last 45 sec
How are u gonna get a 3rd ca in
resto kekkers yapping
how u gonna get 3 CAs

Workshop bricked due to new belt

Seas
n 2
that damn belt 
Deserved
the dryad duration 10s + 45s buff duration
whys the PTR test chat channel just DK nonsense..
Cause dk rework
not saying its gonna be the way to play lol
but theyre all just dooming in there...
Idk what they did to unholy
just that you can do that to get big surges
Why doom
and yes
sending the surges in the next CA has the dryad mimic it at 70% tho
yeah that tech is dogshit
yes probably
just talking big numbies
press starfall in between, dont care about dots
it crit for less than just getting some funnel did..
is anyone keeping track if this week is half spark or full spark
need a belt craft for bamkin but ive done a couple bosses and didnt get catchup
belt craft 
cloak craft*
Bro you should have seen yday
Someone said they triple CA in opener
And that by opener they meant that moonkin next tier has a 1min45 opener
ye i was getting 200 mill starsurges
with a couple of on use effects and carrying over buffs from CAs
So if there's a stix aoe fight but with a sludgefist damage amp phase in the middle moonkin is going to destroy that
it makes us not as terrible on ST on a fight like stix which is pretty cool
I mean we dont know how their gonna change the tier set but atm those Ca Windows are worth 7-8 mil sustained dps at 691
on a single target
and i was getting 13-14 mil from the funnel aoe splashing after 2 minutes
at 6 minutes was still 8 mil aoe and 4 1/2 mil ST
man it seems like every tier set is kinda bonkers
im ready for babamkin supremacy
wait that bugged out theres meant to be a drayd there aswell with 200 million more starsurge damage
highest yet 266 mil starsurge in AOE that xploded for 40 mil each target near it
so bad
What so you just aoe for 2 minutes and then surge twice?
nah this involves the ST tripple CA thing i was doing yesterday
Basically your CA + Convoke the first ca to get a huge dryad buff hold your surges till your 2nd CA with Ca + 60s Convoke + trees for 2 HUGE starsurges
holy yappatron
So you're just freestarfalling for 45 seconds?
ye pretty much
the third CA is where your biggest surge damage comes from because you do 2 coming into the CA and then you do 2 just before CA ends for a few hundred million damage
Henlo, has anyone come across this buge where your character just automatically cancels and recasts bamkin form over and over? (So far only happened in visions). I'm not pressing any buttons here except pressing moonkin form once at the start 
IIRC it's a problem with the hold to cast setting
Oh ye turning it off fixed it (I swear it should not have been on anyways). Thank you 
The holding you should be doing is me, six feet from the edge and I'm slippinh
maybe six feet ain't so far down 🤷♂️

Cuz their grippy hands got nuked
And they don't have raid buff
So 
It can be bad in dungeons too.
First pull after Rixxa in Motherlode, DK hits Abom Limb. Kills himself and the other melee by pulling the bombs in.
?
They did get a raid buff right ?
2% haste
Or did i read that wrong ?
Tank just grabbed the first mech and the two goblins a bit further up and brought them to the space just across the little moat surrounding her area.
Then the DK pulled all the bombs in and I'm standing on Rixxa's platform with the healer like 
Ok reading again it seems it’s a personal buff
Sadge
its just instead of the 5% in dnd, right?
just a generic secondary node
dev note said they would deliberately design bosses around grip utility moving forward
so that dk feels wanted
but blood still does it better so idk
They say some class archetypes being too dominant in certain fight style is problematic
and now they say they will design fights with a class in mind
also you can't fix not having grip by more gear / more damage
so forever need a dk for prog
gg's
guess you could make it so its the easiest solution to a problem but not the only one
but surely thats not gonna be the world we be living in
Get 5 monk rops
They just need to make grip generic utility
but DKs just have the best grip

did u log any of this?
make a potion for it?
real...
give me a potion for dwarf racial
Soon they will just remove character power racials all together
it's funny how they are so specifically picking meld
as they should
Ive played on 1 pserver
and the one thing I remember is that you could just speak to an npc to choose ur racial
as if thats comparable
was so cinema
I think its the Shadowmeld centric routing
They cant see a solution for
Mostly the skips
remove it
idk
this is just confirmation that they know they need to homogenize utility
but they can't
Removing will always feel worse
who cares
cause their philosohophy is every spec needs a niche
they do like the gameplay though
else they wouldn't make it avail for more peeps
you do diff
and i thought they dont care about the stupid shenans done in higher keys
how about you just dont put the 2 stupid hopgoblins in that corridor
give a little bit, take a little bit
its gonna be great having a bdk trying to do a skip with that potion
surely they can outrun the mini boss
i dont remember .. how did you do the ara kara bridge skip?
like not play that pack
after first
not the tp into 2nd boss arena
think a few mechanics will change
also no clue
I dunno, think it will be fine
just their approach with what we should get or shouldn't get
is odd
Maybe the stats u get from the belt aren't 2.5% worth of damage
U would know if u simmed it and didn't feely-craft
Hi, what is this add-on ?
Ask the person ur watching
The normal one I think just has the portals.on the picture and not that side bar
im pretty sure mine has it like that
but its been a while since i teleported to a dungeon
Not pushing, smh
of course not
ty
that is not a slur....








