they will just nuke that particular one
#balance
scenic mist
sudden pawn
exotic perch
we arcane mages now
fathom spoke
No they'll just nuke the people using it probably. We've already reported it directly to blizzard before it even got tweeted out.
true viper
this looks peak
meager storm
they gotta change that 4set a bit i think
maybe make the window smaller for a bigger %
maiden pasture
wtf
pseudo merlin
No they'll just nuke the people using it probably. We've already reported it dir...
I wonder
maiden pasture
decent for rdruid ig
rough marten
blizzard is kinda fucking cooking with these tier sets
scenic mist
4% magic damage no form
3% avoidance is nice
rough marten
?
pseudo merlin
holy shit boys
spark anchor
what does this mean
candid timber
Tanky and doing damage ?
pseudo merlin
fucking hell Maim got gutted
scenic mist
what does this mean
3% avoidance
subtle sail
this is cool unless it means you sit on FOE for a long time then it is very lame
jade flume
meager storm
no shot u sit on foe
lofty depot
this is cool unless it means you sit on FOE for a long time then it is very lame
id assume u dont and u play around sundered more
4% > 0
get fucked
lofty depot
im tryinig to have fun
meager storm
its like saying the proc'd mini foes will consume it too
lucid olive
I actually think this might give Moons some play
lofty depot
I actually think this might give Moons some play
ye
lucid olive
but Full Moon consumes it
lofty depot
precast full moon before cds
proper sinew
Anyone on ptr yet? What did they do to beam
lofty depot
big buff gaming
timber lance
lofty depot
why r druids sets always ass
lucid olive
nerubar tier set looked alright
signal temple
why r druids sets always ass
lofty depot
meager storm
wait is that our set
lofty depot
me lookin bis
meager storm
what an ugly thing
cloud citrus
dude the mage set looks sit
lucid olive
Remember the wardrobes on wowhead always use human models and our sets are not made for humans
pseudo merlin
meager storm
bro our set looks like gear u get when u boost a toon to 60
lucid olive
human male model looks ass baseline
meager storm
wtf is that sht
rotund kiln
skill tree from the belt only for delv or all content?
pseudo merlin
Remember the wardrobes on wowhead always use human models and our sets are not m...
am I blind? was that not a nelf
look at it again
pseudo merlin
bro our set looks like gear u get when u boost a toon to 60
this
meager storm
skill tree from the belt only for delv or all content?
delves
pseudo merlin
"you havent logged in in a while, do you want us to empty your bags and give you a new set of gear" vibes
orchid fjord
Sim saying mug + wax is best. Is this bait?
signal temple
"you havent logged in in a while, do you want us to empty your bags and give you...
Huge step down visually from season 2
signal temple
I like the current set
A lot of the Season 2 sets look nice.
Most of these new ones are "thank Elune for transmog" tier
formal crest
I want it increased so I can tank
You go bear form to live somethng but instead insta get aggro and die
pseudo merlin
Wait do dots and SF dynamically generate increased threat if you bear form?
lofty depot
like i said
proper sinew
Chair being thrown at you first pull in cinderbrew? Can’t bear form cause agro
Many other annoying points over the years
signal temple
Chair being thrown at you first pull in cinderbrew? Can’t bear form cause agro
I get chunked by that often
pseudo merlin
that dryad tho
meager storm
0 chance ec looks so good for m+
formal crest
0 chance ec looks so good for m+
I just don’t wanna play it in raid
meager storm
kotg looks bursty so
surely we keep doing what we are doing this tier
keeper raid ec m+
formal crest
I’d like that
calm ibex
I feel like they should’ve put the set bonus on trees instead of CA
Like it’s supposed to target hero talents but that could just be a normal set bonus
calm ibex
Would we?
Idk I feel like you’d play around the sane cadence
More burst every 2m than less burst every 1
Maybe I’m wrong
Still though feel it should be on trees
scenic mist
calm ibex
I mean touch of the magi is 45s isn’t it
scenic mist
say bye to Cyrce
vital hound
i just saw our tier set
lofty depot
surely we keep doing what we are doing this tier
just means boomkin wont be meta in m+
meager storm
More burst every 2m than less burst every 1
u could play the talent that gives a sht ton of ap sintead of -15s one
lofty depot
then all the fotms can go have fun on mage
lofty depot
wow
kindred moth
I'm gonna miss 2004 spell effects
fathom spoke
Smelly wa no use
pseudo merlin
1 button haters smh
Every key I do I pray to multiple gods that all my teammates are using 1 button
scenic mist
1 button haters smh
pseudo merlin
I like completing content succesfully
calm ibex
u could play the talent that gives a sht ton of ap sintead of -15s one
Oh shit true. Give me that
vital hound
ptr testing is out
is it live yet
eager raft
Hey man I like streets too 🙂
vital hound
ya but can ya log in
lofty depot
ya but can ya log in
get better
vital hound
lofty depot
pseudo merlin
nice ui
vital hound
who just ghost pinged me
pseudo merlin
no shot you play with 72 fucking buttons visible
and also a WA pack above it
🇫🇷
scenic mist
show me a screenshot of live right now
pseudo merlin
Quichons is that plural for Quiche?
hazy storm
Tauren meta now that meld is available via alchemy?
scenic mist
Quichons is that plural for Quiche?
it's not but the Quiche is our god
hazy storm
Or troll don’t they have a dmg / haste buff
pseudo merlin
wtf is this
scenic mist
who just ghost pinged me
Ravec
scenic mist
he cant reply to the right message
scenic mist
BAHRKSKIN DIESHOUIT
is this romanian ?
vital hound
steel hollow
Tauren meta now that meld is available via alchemy?
Uses pot CD
pseudo merlin
is this romanian ?
Tthat's what your fucking french weakaura said in that video
"Bahrskin dix-huit"
scenic mist
Tthat's what your fucking french weakaura said in that video
lmao
tts
i dont make the rules
pseudo merlin
At some point you (the french) did
scenic mist
wtf is this
who looks down there anyways
pseudo merlin
yeah so why is it there
scenic mist
got a 32" screen
scenic mist
yeah so why is it there
idk, so i can move things around when i need to ig
lofty depot
were flying again
vital hound
were flying again
dire osprey
yo but this is a bit right?
It looks so ass
scenic mist
were flying again
which boss is this ?
dire osprey
Atleast set bonuses look fun
pseudo merlin
yeah druid tier is a bit for sure
lofty depot
the end boss
pseudo merlin
visually
it's 100% an out of season april fools
they're working on a super banger behind the scenes
dire osprey
pseudo merlin
Honestly
The only thing that set is good for is the individual pieces MAYBE fitting some random mogs
the belt and boots and g loves
fiery harness
why this macro doesn't work
pseudo merlin
can probably cook with it
fiery harness
im using the q2 potions
pseudo merlin
what isn't working
lofty depot
always funny seeing macros
pseudo merlin
Macroing potions is crazy
INdiscriminately pumping out pots every single time you can
dire osprey
💀
pseudo merlin
Bought 50000 pots at the start of season
gotta get through all of them
I ain't stopping
dire osprey
Well its always better than forgetting about them and not pressing it at all
Like 99% of my pugs
quiet ruin
Just sit in Dorn half AFK and chug them on CD
pseudo merlin
lmao
fiery harness
labeled it potion too
i have two macros
pseudo merlin
So why isn't one of them just potion then
fiery harness
lofty depot
lol
pseudo merlin
wait you have three
lofty depot
just put potion on a seperate button
fiery harness
another one is CA
lofty depot
cuz he likely copied incarn
fiery harness
for raid spec
fiery harness
But i am going to pop incarn with potion anyway right?
theres no point not to bind them together?
pseudo merlin
saving a gcd
lofty depot
there is actually
scenic mist
But i am going to pop incarn with potion anyway right?
Vexxie for instance
lofty depot
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Celestial Alignment
/cast Nature's Vigil
scenic mist
you would pot on pull
lofty depot
mugzee im not potting on pull either
scenic mist
with your macro
pseudo merlin
and like control over your pot usage
which is a super common thing
include like every m+ boss with dmg amps
fiery harness
Vexxie for instance
i don't really raid mythic tho
pseudo merlin
then why are you using potions
fiery harness
i want to but this is my second week retail lol
lofty depot
what if u have pot at 5m but want to hold it for when u lust if say at 7m in dungeon
hmmm
scenic mist
i want to but this is my second week retail lol
don't take bad habits then 😉
fiery harness
then why are you using potions
why not?
pseudo merlin
fair
lofty depot
theres plenty of situations where u want to not use pot at say 5m that u would want to use later
its about control
manic sinew
I've been looking for rotation information/cooldown information. When's the best time we should be popping Best In Slots
lofty depot
raid or m+
manic sinew
raid
scenic mist
I've been looking for rotation information/cooldown information. When's the best...
2nd CA, and then on CD with trees
pseudo merlin
I've been looking for rotation information/cooldown information. When's the best...
you'll find everything in the compendium in the pins
lofty depot
2nd ca
fiery harness
theres plenty of situations where u want to not use pot at say 5m that u would w...
Can you explain when to use it without using with incarn
pseudo merlin
It's not about using it without incarn
lofty depot
againnnnnnnnnnnnn
scenic mist
Can you explain when to use it without using with incarn
it's the opposite
scenic mist
Can you explain when to use it without using with incarn
you might wanna use incarn while pot is up but not using pot
lofty depot
i said u would use it with incarn just not at 5m cd
and maybe in 2 minutes with say lust
fiery harness
I have two keybinds. usually i just use the normal incarn
and when i potion i just use the other macro
scenic mist
last boss of Workshop is a good example of this
manic sinew
you'll find everything in the compendium in the pins
I must have bad eyes because I couldn't see it in there so thought I would ask, thanks!
scenic mist
and when i potion i just use the other macro
just make the 2nd keybind only pot then ? :p
pseudo merlin
Anyway this clearly isn't going anywhere, so how can he fix his macro
pseudo merlin
I must have bad eyes because I couldn't see it in there so thought I would ask, ...
scroll down to the first pin
fiery harness
I can but i just wnat to know why
im new so im trying to learn
not trying to argue
lofty depot
/use item:212971
/use item:212265
/use item:212970
/use item:212264
/use item:212969
/use item:212263
lofty depot
i told u why
scenic mist
Anyway this clearly isn't going anywhere, so how can he fix his macro
i actually couldnt macro the potion this season
wanted to have a one button potion that prio fleeting over regular but couldnt
pseudo merlin
not trying to argue
ya you're good dont worry
fiery harness
i told u why
You just told me that there are situations that i don't want to use it with incarn
scenic mist
/use item:212971
/use item:212265
/use item:212970
/use item:212264
/use item:21...
can you give details ?
fiery harness
but you didn't tell me why
lofty depot
fleeting
lofty depot
but you didn't tell me why
i fucking did
fiery harness
like do i prepop potion before incarn?
lofty depot
and maybe in 2 minutes with say lust
either ur not reading or ur blatantly ignoring
fiery harness
so you are just saying that i should pop potion on cd in m+ dungeon
lofty depot
fleeting r3/2/1 then classic r3/2/1 is that it ?
ye
pseudo merlin
i cba changing the pot in my bars every raid night
oh between cauldron and normal
pseudo merlin
yeah I still swap lmao
fiery harness
i said u would use it with incarn just not at 5m cd
ok so if my incarn is on cd if i just press the button it's just normal potion?
pseudo merlin
should probably fix that
scenic mist
oh between cauldron and normal
yeah what a pain
some night i realise like on mugzee that i still have 20 fleetings
scenic mist
pseudo merlin
ok so if my incarn is on cd if i just press the button it's just normal potion?
yes
but like you dont want that
fiery harness
I use them on 5m bosses
lofty depot
i said u might not want to use right now if lust is say in 2 minutes
but if its up u then would use it
fiery harness
I mean im willing to change. but not really understand why i shouldn't bind incarn with potion. I can just press normal incarn if i want to wait for lust? and if my incarn is on cd and somehow i want to potion without incarn and i just press my incarn+potion macro its just potion
thorny rapids
I am seeing a lot of balance go haste for S2 gear, are we stacking haste or mastery for bgb?
lofty depot
I mean im willing to change. but not really understand why i shouldn't bind inca...
why have 2 buttons for incarn, when 1 do trick
pseudo merlin
I mean im willing to change. but not really understand why i shouldn't bind inca...
youre right
Arctic just doesn't see the need to have that macro over just a normal potion
lofty depot
I am seeing a lot of balance go haste for S2 gear, are we stacking haste or mast...
why not both
fiery harness
why have 2 buttons for incarn, when 1 do trick
but i need another button for potion anyway riught?
so i need two buttons anyway
pseudo merlin
Yes
lofty depot
yes but then ud ont need to learn a 2nd butto nfor incanr. oh whoops i pressed it and now i dont have pot
whoopsie
thorny rapids
I low key wanna stack mastery and blast some 5 mil star surges
lofty depot
or just learn to have ur cds on 1 button and ur pot on another
pseudo merlin
Yeah but
lofty depot
yea but stfu
pseudo merlin
Don't press the wrong button?
fiery harness
yea i mean what if i don't have the macro and i didn't want to use potion and i just used potion lol
pseudo merlin
Btw I just want to congratulate you Americans real quick
fiery harness
then why can't i learn my macro buttons
lofty depot
i cba
fiery harness
they are the same thing
pseudo merlin
The Corvette ZR1X "Zora" might be the greatest bit of automotive engineering in human history
What a fucking beauty
lofty depot
cuz i bet u prefer 1 button to the other
fiery harness
also my macro has to be marginally better because it saves 0.1 sec pressing
lofty depot
rekt
fiery harness
cuz i bet u prefer 1 button to the other
lol why you assume that? this is my second week in retail and i timed 4 +12
scenic mist
yea but stfu
pseudo merlin
Who's raiding with the improved hekili sponsored (jk) 1 button rotation
lofty depot
lol why you assume that? this is my second week in retail and i timed 4 +12
gj buddy
fiery harness
like this is not even my second week it's my 9 days after i am lvl 80
not impressive but
lofty depot
im impressed
scenic mist
not impressive but
anyway, did you get the macro right during this talk ? the command was linked
fiery harness
anyway, did you get the macro right during this talk ? the command was linked
the q3 potion always worked. i just wanted to save gold lol
for lower keys
scenic mist
the q3 potion always worked. i just wanted to save gold lol
rearrange the order then
fiery harness
did you link some macros to me? sorry i was trying to understand what they were talking about
sacred isle
what do we think about new tier sets
lofty depot
what do we think about new tier sets
im thinking
scenic mist
/use item:212971
/use item:212265
/use item:212970
/use item:212264
/use item:212969
/use item:212263
fleeting r3
normal r3
fleeting r2
normal r2
fleeting r1
normal r1
lofty depot
/use item:212971
/use item:212265
/use item:212970
/use item:212264
/use item:21...
wrong
scenic mist
/use item:212971
/use item:212265
/use item:212970
/use item:212264
/use item:21...
@fiery harness
lofty depot
fleeting is 71 70 and 69
fiery harness
Thanks
lofty depot
its fleeting, normal, fleeting, normal..
scenic mist
fleeting is 71 70 and 69
oh so they are intertwinded
lofty depot
yes
why would i want to use a fleeting r1 over a normal r3
fuggn pleb shit is that
scenic mist
edited
scenic mist
why would i want to use a fleeting r1 over a normal r3
cause money
duh
fleeting over anything
scenic mist
i get you
scenic mist
so your macro prio higher quality potions right?
check back the message, i edited the order legend
lofty depot
u dont need 2 different ones
scenic mist
oh right
lofty depot
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Celestial Alignment
/use 14
/cast Nature's Vigil
/use item:212971
/use item:212265
/use item:212970
/use item:212264
/use item:212969
/use item:212263
delete ur shit
use that
thanks
scenic mist
im lost lol
/cast Celestial Alignment
will send any version of CA, so CA, orbital strike, incaarn, ...
scenic mist
he added [@cursor] for the orbital strike part
lofty depot
and instead of /use house of cards
use /use 14 or 13
14 is the bottom trinket slot
cloud citrus
ok this new tier set is 100% getting nerfed getting 35-40 mil starsurges
fiery harness
Do i always pop nature's vigil with ca
lofty depot
yes
scenic mist
Do i always pop nature's vigil with ca
yes
lofty depot
if a healer says otherwise tell them theyre not ellesmere and to seek help
and refer them to this comment
..l.
lofty depot
let me heal group for total of 7m suresureuureusres
lofty depot
ok this new tier set is 100% getting nerfed getting 35-40 mil starsurges
can u log off so i can log on
thanks
proper sinew
And a lot of the time it only
heals the tank
lofty depot
30-40m seems low
fiery harness
kuron just plays every single wow?
potent cargo
yo
proper sinew
I’ve always played Retail
cloud citrus
30-40m seems low
if i double incarn right after the first i can get 80+ mil starsurges
scenic mist
whos got a pic of the new mythic raid mount
cloud citrus
but i wast a incarn charge so not sure if really worth but probs is
scenic mist
yeah jesus
potent cargo
thats some drip
scenic mist
you're so slow
potent cargo
that's another 1b in sales
lofty depot
if i double incarn right after the first i can get 80+ mil starsurges
i was thinking about this
scenic mist
get an internet connection pls
pseudo merlin
easily
pseudo merlin
you're so slow
who are you ?
lofty depot
but i woulder if u trees in the middle of ca
cloud citrus
i was thinking about this
Its well worth using because its like 2 starsurges hitting 80 mil then after that another 2 hitting 50mil
lofty depot
to get buff on the last 2
pseudo merlin
✋
cloud citrus
the last 2 get buffed by the first ca convoke starurgers atm
cloud citrus
nah atm you
lofty depot
im cooking
cloud citrus
ca convoke trees for the big 80 mils
then those 80 mils go to the next ca with nothing with trinkets
lofty depot
nah he doesnt get it
cloud citrus
that do another 50 mils
you using the convoke from the first 2 big starsurges to proc the next 2 starsurges
scenic mist
nah he doesnt get it
doesnt work if you're not smoking while saying this
cloud citrus
so those 80 mil count towards the next 2 50 mils because it procs each CA
which is ACTUALLY INSANE
hell i just got a 103 mil starsurge on 2nd ca pair
lofty depot
yea trees doesnt last that long
cloud citrus
its CA that procs the dryad that procs the trees doh
i think u want to be treein the CA = Convoke
lofty depot
yea i would be doing that
cloud citrus
so the next set of CA starsurges are bigger average
lofty depot
blud cant maff the cook
digital berry
Piss gameplay
cloud citrus
ist basically just the average of all 4 surges which is the biggest
i tried tree the 2nd set of convokes and the average was 55 mil
tree on the convoke first ca average was 60 mil
for the 4 surges
scenic mist
hell i just got a 103 mil starsurge on 2nd ca pair
screen this
cloud citrus
im ean starsurges
lofty depot
yea thats not the cook
cloud citrus
yea treeing first is def the best average atm
cloud citrus
sorry what did you want
lofty depot
i dont want anything
cloud citrus
seems like dryad also starsurging with the buff but its not being used
dryad did a 24mil starsurge
digital berry
Can’t find it by googling around, anyone has a screenshot of the season 3 tier sets ?
craggy sonnet
of the mog or the effect
digital berry
The effect
craggy sonnet
digital berry
I googled wow season 3 tier sets and only the models come up
craggy sonnet
i mean
calm ibex
i assume
nova ocean
U gain AP when u use starfire
craggy sonnet
duh
thank you
no i mean
dont you always gain
unless its specifically not overcap
but why?
digital berry
Who knows maybe in their math It could have been mathematically better to never spend asp
nova ocean
Who knows maybe in their math It could have been mathematically better to never ...
This
lofty depot
surely gastank gonna come in and say well technically u do gain asp
eager raft
Piss gameplay
craggy sonnet
guess there might be some gameplay with timing foe/full moon .. but damn, thats some passive shit
just what EC needs
and keeper set makes no sense at all based on their premise that it builds upon the hero tree
digital berry
It’s also like building upon the zero dps outside of eclipse gameplay
trail verge
!belt
lofty depot
wonder if it casts surge on 2t and not starfall 👀
lofty depot
is bad
cloud citrus
screen this
55mil + 34 mil from dryad with no pot.
lofty depot
oh u mena s3
craggy sonnet
fysh
lofty depot
who knows dawg its been out ofr 3 minutes
sacred isle
ya s3
sacred isle
who knows dawg its been out ofr 3 minutes
can i get a complex analysis plEASE
cloud citrus
it mimics the buff
scenic mist
55mil + 34 mil from dryad with no pot.
yumme thx
lofty depot
55mil + 34 mil from dryad with no pot.
go attack 2 dummies and see if dryad casts starfall thanks
craggy sonnet
wdym mimics the buff
cloud citrus
so you can do what im gonna sin wanted
and wait for 2nd trees for 2nd ca with buff
from first ca + convoke + trees
then just never use surge till 2nd trees
then get a 55 mil surge with buff + dryad surge for 70%
digital berry
Yeah holding surge and spamming starfall on st for 30 seconds ?
craggy sonnet
bruhh
cloud citrus
use no astral pwoer at all
craggy sonnet
no way
digital berry
Why would you not use asp the 4 set only applies to surge
cloud citrus
then 2nd ca charge double surge into another double surge after for 90 mil + 90 mil + 30 mil + 30 mil
ye ill try that
lofty depot
cast starfalls instead until ur next ca
cloud citrus
ye
digital berry
Which like starfall and starsurge are not THAT far apart in dps in st no?
lofty depot
Which like starfall and starsurge are not THAT far apart in dps in st no?
they are
craggy sonnet
dryad 11%
digital berry
Oh wait it’s not even once you leave it’s when it expires
So like you can’t even surge at the tail end of eclipse
craggy sonnet
i think thats a lie
that was in response to starfall in ST
cloud citrus
HOLY MOLEY
lofty depot
200mil?
digital berry
that was in response to starfall in ST
It makes sense
cloud citrus
78 mil + 55 mil
digital berry
To starfall in st to carry over the buff
craggy sonnet
sure
cloud citrus
but yea you can def just starfall for buffs
craggy sonnet
just saying its not that close
cloud citrus
So when dyrad finises after 6 seconds it gives you the buffed surges
digital berry
I mean it’s a game of math , is it more beneficial to chain the buffs or use them at the end of each ca
cloud citrus
but the dyrad starsurges can do 70% of your buff damage
so the 2nd CA you have buffed damage + dryad up so the 2 surges doing 76 mil each also do 70% extra from the dyrad
craggy sonnet
how does the dryad work to begin with
it just mimics your casts
and does 70% of it
?
cloud citrus
when u CA for the next 6 seconds 5% of your dam gos into a big buff
cloud citrus
yea it mimics the damage
craggy sonnet
(but also it says 10s)
lofty depot
so the 2nd CA you have buffed damage + dryad up so the 2 surges doing 76 mil eac...
so to add to this, i wanted to convoke on 2nd ca instead of first
craggy sonnet
so its a glorified double cast
lofty depot
and not trees it either
cloud citrus
nah you want to convoke on first or you dont get the 80 mil surges for the next dyrad buff
or you dont get the 80 mil surges**
the 80 mil surges on the 2nd CA are the huge increase
the first CA is just buffing the 2nd CA with trees
craggy sonnet
ok .. so what stops you from taking this all the way to the end of a fight=
lofty depot
i know what it does
nova ocean
Are u getting 80mil on one surge each or total?
craggy sonnet
why stop at 2nd CA
cloud citrus
ill explain in timeline hold on
digital berry
It seems like it’s a let people sim all the different options and do what they say is best angle
lofty depot
It seems like it’s a let people sim all the different options and do what they s...
stfu with ur logic
were cooking
craggy sonnet
it seems like a starfall in ST and dont reapply dots and then fire your big load every CA until boss dedge
digital berry
I mean it’s fun to try and figure out how it works for sure
cloud citrus
Start Pull -> Ca Convoke normal shit -> Dyrad goes away -> Gain x2 starsurge buff of ~50 mills -> Wait till trees up to 2nd CA -> Use my 2 saved 50 mil surges to buff my NEXT Dyrad in this CA making it ANOTHER 2 50 mill buffs when it ends -> Hold this 2 surge buffs till next CA and repeat
lofty depot
Start Pull -> Ca Convoke normal shit -> Dyrad goes away -> Gain x2 starsurge buf...
well i assume the starfall thing is actually terrible
cloud citrus
lofty depot
after 2nd ca
craggy sonnet
hopefully
cloud citrus
yea starfall can be used not cap Astral doh
and yea its not worth using for the buff tbh
i was only getting like 20 mil out of my dyrad with the starfalls
on 6 targets
digital berry
Ok so parsing is gonna be a coin flip on whether you crit the two hyper buffed surges gotcha
scenic mist
Start Pull -> Ca Convoke normal shit -> Dyrad goes away -> Gain x2 starsurge buf...
i believe the dummies you are blasting just went and reported you
cloud citrus
so the buff itself for the surges lasts a bit let me check exact time
cloud citrus
yea the buff lasts 45 seconds
so you can hold the 2 buffs for every tree set
which is INSANE
btw
lofty depot
yea so u cant use it for 3rd ca
digital berry
????
lofty depot
so u just send it otherwise
digital berry
Why don’t you just use it at the end of ca
cloud citrus
i means ur 2 minute cd your getting like 200mil surges
digital berry
The dryad lives for 10 seconds and ca lasts 14
craggy sonnet
you can tho .. no?
lofty depot
i means ur 2 minute cd your getting like 200mil surges
well the reason i was thinking was that u have pot on opener
for both cas
cloud citrus
ye
lofty depot
if u do what i was thinking
cloud citrus
you can def tree b4 ca
craggy sonnet
The dryad lives for 10 seconds and ca lasts 14
the surges feed the next window
cloud citrus
and have the buff could up at end of ca if you want
digital berry
The only time it makes sense to me to hold is first ca since you have two charges in pull
digital berry
the surges feed the next window
Buff is 45 seconds, ca cd is higher so the buff would expire before the third ca is up no?
cloud citrus
ye need to cook if you can get a big buff going into a CA + Convoke at 2 minutes
craggy sonnet
oh .. you were only talking about the 2nd surges
digital berry
Oh wait I’m wrong
cloud citrus
like if you can get a huge go into your ca convoke go my god
craggy sonnet
10+45+10+45
digital berry
Who knows maybe we will finally have a tier where balance is good in raid
scenic mist
Who knows maybe we will finally have a tier where balance is good in raid
tettles knows
cloud citrus
this tier is a bit better the ngood my man
merry crow
inb4 they rework the tier set
lofty depot
cloud citrus
like some of these pulls at 2 minutes im sustained 7 mil on the dimmies
digital berry
I am still unsure about the mathematical possibility of holding every dryad buffed surge into the next ca, cooldowns wise
craggy sonnet
can you do a 3 CA sequence?
craggy sonnet
also what kinda dps numbers are we even talking
digital berry
But Druid buff is 45s, eventually it de synchs too much with ca no
cloud citrus
then 3 minutes later i tripple CAd again
craggy sonnet
thats some dmg
cloud citrus
there were 3 minutes of me doing basically nothing doh
craggy sonnet
you can only do first 3
digital berry
Yeah
cloud citrus
i was just treanting and thats about it
maiden pasture
How did you get triple CA what did I miss on the notes
cloud citrus
till 2nd set of CA + Convoke+ CA + CA
which was at like 4 minutes
theres a very high chance double ca opener into double CA when convoke up again is better
digital berry
Yeah idk what you mean by triple ca
cloud citrus
then treant ca one more time
maiden pasture
Where does the 3rd CA come from
cloud citrus
you holding the buff for 40 seconds
for a third ca convoke
i think thats our life now though
for st
maiden pasture
Idk I must have missed something or I just can't read like
cloud citrus
its legit just pushing out the tripple ca every 5 minutes
maiden pasture
How do you do 3 CA in opener
maiden pasture
Where does the 3rd one come from man wdym at 1:45 thats not the fkn opener
orchid ember
Where does the 3rd one come from man wdym at 1:45 thats not the fkn opener
nobody said doing 3 in opener
maiden pasture
i tripple CAd opeenr
Bro
cloud citrus
its a 1 minute 45 second opener my guy
pseudo merlin
what
digital berry
You’re holding the first buff for 30 seconds until trees are back up and the second buff until convoke is back up, that’s your third ca
cloud citrus
i said we have a 1 minute 45 second opener my dude
pseudo merlin
What
digital berry
Calling it triple ca is definitely confusing
pseudo merlin
I don't think you know what opener means
cloud citrus
it is though because each cd set effects the next
maiden pasture
That doesn't make it an opener? xD
cloud citrus
ye maybe confusing call it something else
maiden pasture
Opener is what you do on pull before going to your normal rotation
cloud citrus
the person i was talking to understoof
digital berry
Its a rotation that resets every 4 minutes or something
nova ocean
Does the buff refresh when u try stacking or do u get a new buff
cloud citrus
buff lasts 45 seconds
nova ocean
It could overrite the first buff too
digital berry
Does the buff refresh when u try stacking or do u get a new buff
Why would you ever want to refresh it
nova ocean
Exactly
digital berry
No you use those two buffed surges
digital berry
Since the buff is based on how much dmg you do inside the dryad window
nova ocean
Ohh I see
craggy sonnet
60s trees and 60s convoke?
cloud citrus
BRO
digital berry
So having buffed star surges buffes the third ones by a shit ton
digital berry
60s trees ? Doesn’t that just mean you can’t even chain the first two ca dryad buffs ?
cloud citrus
it means every 60s you have a go
digital berry
But the buff lasts 45s
cloud citrus
ye not sure how youd do that properly
i think u had to only convoke at the end of your CA
then after
digital berry
Even with control it’s still not gonna happen, 1 minute convoke MIGHT make sense but it’s all in the maths
cloud citrus
ye
digital berry
Nah I don’t think it would tbh since it still wouldn’t line up with the first two tree ca sets
cloud citrus
ye theres no way
digital berry
Tbh at least they gave the theorycrafters something to work with
In terms of figuring out what the best gameplay is with the new tier set
Its not just a passive dmg buff
Well it is technically
digital berry
150mil surge? This is gonna get nerfed so fast
They will nerf it something ridiculous like instead of 5% to 1% and we will be absolute dog water in raid once more
craggy sonnet
digital berry
why wouldnt it work with control?
It wouldn’t work without control
craggy sonnet
and why would it have to work without control?
digital berry
and why would it have to work without control?
Wondering if 1 minute convoke and trees would be feasible for more dmg inside the actual dryad window
cloud citrus
its averging more
but its still a 3 minute cd after the window
but it allows you use to all ur surge charges in CA
craggy sonnet
but at least you can just trees and convoke
cloud citrus
because you dump 4 in your 1:45 CA
craggy sonnet
until whatever you wanna do
digital berry
So in the first 1:45 you never surge outside of ca
craggy sonnet
real real
merry crow
this is cooked, rework inc
cloud citrus
nup at the 1:45 i had 0 buffed surges outside of CA
out of 6 buffed i had 4 with a dryad
digital berry
And after that you hold ca and convoke until you have 2 charges of ca and restart the 1 minute 45 seconds rotation
cloud citrus
yeop
cloud citrus
then you wait for 4 mintes 15 and do it again
merry crow
this is so stupid
it's going to get changed
digital berry
this is so stupid
This is just a funny way to use it, we have no idea if it’s mathematically better
craggy sonnet
And after that you hold ca and convoke until you have 2 charges of ca and restar...
you can just send trees + convoke for 2 minutes
cloud citrus
ye
craggy sonnet
it's going to get changed
duhh, still someone came up with it in the first place
digital berry
you can just send trees + convoke for 2 minutes
Oh yeah true since that will be back up
digital berry
it's going to get changed
Idk abut changed, probably nerfed
cloud citrus
i dont think u can ever use 60s trees because you want for all 3
lofty depot
ye 60s convoke kinda nuts
use foe too 🙂
cloud citrus
ye i tried the other set kinda sucked
digital berry
Tbh I am not a hater even if this was the new gameplay.
cloud citrus
for elunes
lofty depot
no i meant with keeper
digital berry
It beats spamming wrath and surge
lofty depot
more damage in window
cloud citrus
but i can take power of gold out
digital berry
Tbh anything to do more dmg inside the dryad window is gonna be better
cloud citrus
and stuff like waning
red nymph
this is clearly a plate set. no way thats druid tier
lofty depot
and stuff like waning
cloud citrus
you can take out power for extra 50% im sure itll be better right
craggy sonnet
i dont think u can ever use 60s trees because you want for all 3
theoretically you should be able to fit them
pseudo merlin
this is clearly a plate set. no way thats druid tier
that's gecko
cloud citrus
eww gross
digital berry
theoretically you should be able to fit them
How do you roll over the first set of dryad buffs into second ca if trees are 60 sec cd
cloud citrus
ye thats the problem u cant roll 2nd ca
craggy sonnet
you can split control
cloud citrus
i guess ye
cloud citrus
it would be really tight
digital berry
Surely it’s not worth to do all that for an extra dream burst
That shit doesn’t do that much dmg
cloud citrus
like it was tight then i was 7 seconds off buff dropping on 2nd convoke trees
but that could be me being on 400 ms
cause OCE
craggy sonnet
you just gotta milk the duration
legit last 3s gotta pump the surges
then it should work
but yea
cloud citrus
ye
crazy set doh please dont chaange it
st spamming starfall OP
multi target surging OP
pseudo merlin
10000% some of this shit becomes baseline
cloud citrus
101 mil + 20mil aoe
pseudo merlin
or a talent
red nymph
that's gecko
ah i see
cloud citrus
i dun know in full aoe my dryad did less with starfalls then a big pumper starsurge
and that pumper starsurge did more then all teh starfalls with the aoe component
craggy sonnet
you wanna press the surges sure
but after that
starfall should just do more in aoe
craggy sonnet
even during dryad, ye?
iron chasm
Woohoo funny dryad to pair with our trees!!
cloud citrus
ye
after first 2 surges in dryad
straight to starfall again
basically the same thing as the ST just more starfalls
no surges outside of the buff
fun bonues hope it doesnt get nerfed too much
craggy sonnet
but in st you can surge during dryad
cloud citrus
ye
craggy sonnet
ye
cloud citrus
ok just bought a 50k int trinket on use with priory
see if i can get like a 300 mil surge
with the new staff
so its like priory for opener into staff into trinket for last CA
calm ibex
with the new staff
new staff?
cloud citrus
nvm it was just on the vendor thought rookery was coming back
ripe blade
Hey! Quick question regarding Mythic One-Armed Bandit: Is there a WA or any visual cue to clearly identify when you have the Big Hit debuff and are about to drop a pool? I know there's an arrow above your head and a circle, but when all the ranged are stacked, it’s quite hard to spot...
lofty depot
Hey! Quick question regarding Mythic One-Armed Bandit: Is there a WA or any visu...
visual cue is the blue circle around u
but no thats the point
final oyster
best advice is to use that window to cast starsurge/dot to move around slightly to gain a sense of position and easily see if u have it or not
heady hedge
lofty depot
non insufferable
merry ibex
Hey! Quick question regarding Mythic One-Armed Bandit: Is there a WA or any visu...
theres a visual cue where your screen slightly zooms out/you grow larger
digital berry
I thought that debuff for the lightning pool drop was untrackable
merry ibex
it is
digital berry
So what would a weak aura do? Warn you to check?
Isn’t that what dbm or bigwigs already do?
lofty depot
u can set a weakaura to countdown to when the hit is
but ull get spammed with a counter
digital berry
You don’t even need a weak aura for that, you can set it up on any and all raid addons
merry ibex
yea it's pretty easy to see if you have a countdown so you're not tunneled on something when the zoomout happens, here's an example https://youtu.be/vSpssQz2vFE?t=146
ripe blade
You don’t even need a weak aura for that, you can set it up on any and all raid ...
yeah, i know when the big hit is coming, dbm already has a counter.for it. My problem is knowing when i got the debuff, because is hard to spot when everybody is stacked. Will try what @final oyster and @merry ibex suggest 🙂
digital berry
yeah, i know when the big hit is coming, dbm already has a counter.for it. My pr...
You cannot know if you have it
Blizz makes certain mechanics at random in a way that the weak aura cannot track it
vital hound
yeah, i know when the big hit is coming, dbm already has a counter.for it. My pr...
everytime it comes out
i move my character a step across
if circle move i have it
unkempt skiff
So how good is the belt
unkempt skiff
with charged bolt?
digital berry
Check pins
digital heart
will be about 1.5 hrs late today.
digital berry
Hmm
digital berry
will be about 1.5 hrs late today.
Wrong channel perhaps
unkempt skiff
cool thanks
orchid terrace
are the fae dragons purely rng if they spawn from ur dot ticks?
or is there something im missing
digital berry
are the fae dragons purely rng if they spawn from ur dot ticks?
They have a certain proc per minute rate or smth but when they proc is random afaik
orchid terrace
istg i see 3 for a 7 minute fight
100% dot uptime
there has to be something im doing wrong
digital berry
The variance with rng for moonkin is really not high whatsoever tho compared to other specs
orchid terrace
my convokes always suck, and i never get the faes
and my crit feels way to low i have like 20% crit change for my surge
elder remnant
60s trees and convoke
Doesn’t convoke eat the surge buff???
digital berry
my convokes always suck, and i never get the faes
Your dmg isn’t low because of rng, I can guarantee that
cloud citrus
my 2nd CA has trees convoke and the buff