balance

[quiet drift]

Holy

[jade flume]

Inb4 healer benches and they force me

[slender dragon]

why @wicked shuttle don't say as the compendium for belt in wowhead 😦

[pallid bay]

what did tettles say

[slender dragon]

charged bolts for aoe when compendium say spark burst

[delicate perch]

What a hopelessly pretentious thing to say. Get over yourself.
@teal sphinx login

[pallid bay]

he didnt even update his guide or

where do u find anything on wowhead

site is so bad to navigate

[delicate perch]

google: balance druid guide help wowhead

[pseudo merlin]

I literally google what I want to find on wowhead

navigating wowhead is indeed a nightmare lmao

[hollow mist]

google: balance druid guide help wowhead

[slender dragon]

yeah wowhead should just take a UI/UX designer

worst site ever

[leaden birch]

mouse over classes > druid > balance

I think

[pallid bay]

yeah then i clicked on bis gear

its not there

then i thought maybe the navigation pane to the left would have the belt

nope

[leaden birch]

it was last updated nov 15th

belt wasn't even out back then

[pseudo merlin]

wait

is he talking about the

[white hull]

I love that feral channel is "hehe kibby", guardian & resto is "let's theorycraft", and every time I look at balance it's just "fuck you"

[pseudo merlin]

"best belt for every spec" article?

[slender dragon]

its first news there

[quiet drift]

Wowhead cant keep up all this content

[pallid bay]

oh it popped up

pog

[quiet drift]

Theyre over their heads w the weekly warcraftlogs rankings

[delicate perch]

I love that feral channel is "hehe kibby", guardian & resto is "let's theorycraft", and every time I look at balance it's just "fuck you"

@teal sphinx

[quiet drift]

Real

[pallid bay]

real

resto theorycrafting is just torty flaming people

[delicate perch]

[white hull]

LOL

[pallid bay]

make an educated decision (roll a dice)

[leaden birch]

it's great isn't it

where's arctic rn

[pallid bay]

that shits just not gonna matter, charged bolt dosnt scale in aoe so haste or mastery will just be better

tettles prob took the easy route of recommending a single one

[leaden birch]

man, I really don't want to go back into delves

[delicate perch]

then don't

[leaden birch]

I was so happy to see charged bolts was given for free

[pallid bay]

i say this with no knowledge of how the belt works at all except skimming a single tooltip so dont listen to me

[delicate perch]

do 2 delves > get belt + zap
do 1 other delve get haste or mastery proc instead

[leaden birch]

1 delve too many

[delicate perch]

3 delves too many actually

[craggy sonnet]

why do you need to do 2 delves for belt + zap

[proper sinew]

If you really hate delves just spec guardian

it's brain off

[delicate perch]

idk maybe theres a way to do it in one

but it requires a bunch of the currency to finish first quest

then you need to kill pylons in 2nd quest

[craggy sonnet]

worked for me

[leaden birch]

I am at least happy it can be done at any delve tier

[delicate perch]

gg I suck

[royal zenith]

should've used the OB

[craggy sonnet]

guess you can be unlucky esp if you kill all the pylons before turning in

[delicate perch]

ya I just killed everything

was not reading a wowhead guide on how to do a delve

[pallid bay]

is bear OBR good

[leaden birch]

how tf did you do it in a single delve

[craggy sonnet]

didnt either

[pseudo merlin]

I mean fuck delves right, but it takes like 20 minutes max

[craggy sonnet]

was lucky there were a few in the final boss room

[plucky hill]

Just picked up the belt and using charged bolts, I tried it on the dummies but details doesnt show the dmg from the belt. Just really really bad rnd or any bugs?

[pallid bay]

dosnt work with dummies

go hit random mob

[plucky hill]

thanks

[cloud plover]

dummies are the real bad guy of this xpac

[royal zenith]

I can think of someone else

[pseudo merlin]

[lunar viper]

Maybe the real bad guy was the pugs we met along the way

[leaden birch]

man, I can't wait to join some 14s and pump with my 1 button

guys, am I missing something about mugzee intermission?

[jade flume]

Ong

[leaden birch]

my dps falls off a cliff

do I just suck

[jade flume]

Id tell u but my dps also sucks on the mug

I think we are just old

[sudden flame]

[leaden birch]

the movement kills me lmao

[pseudo merlin]

my best mugz parsae is like an 81

[rancid glen]

Guys I am enjoying moonkin much more than dev evoker atm, although switching from dev to moonkin might mean I get benched for prog lol

[pseudo merlin]

well we dont know what tuning will look like for next patch yet so

impossible to know if you will get benched

(you will, boomie will remain shit)

[jade flume]

Play aug

[rancid glen]

That gets me gkicked

[jade flume]

Aug pipes though

[rancid glen]

Too complex to perform well in raid compared to dev (at least for me)

[leaden birch]

dev pumps rn

[jade flume]

Dev is cringe tho

[leaden birch]

why

[jade flume]

Just my objective opinion

[delicate perch]

Based

[vagrant cove]

Gotta decide what you value more. Playing moonkin and missing out on prog, or playing devastation evoker and progging

[pseudo merlin]

Imagine willingly playing a gecko

[vagrant cove]

Honestly I dont have a clue on how to play dev

I only know how to play Aug, I cant even play the healer spec

[rancid glen]

The healer spec can be quite complex, it’s very combo based

The dev evoker raid spec is VERY easy

[feral dust]

To be fair both geckos and chickens imply that the user is a furrie

[royal zenith]

Devoker raid spec aitn that easy

if you want to play it optimally

and both hero specs

[round field]

U play devoker so ur wrong

[royal zenith]

but I guess it doesn't really matter rn

cause you gained 25% extra damage

in the past 6 weeks

every fight is a dummy target

[pallid bay]

U can wc start of each spin and just move close to boss to minimize movement

Also just press something

[rancid glen]

But I guess we’ll need to see tuning for 11.2. Maybe dev falls out of grace 😄

[maiden pasture]

aug will be meta

dw

[jade flume]

I miss aug

[rancid glen]

Have done some 15 and 16 as aug

It’s not that bad

[teal sphinx]

Oh shit that's good

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/so-true-gif-24068595

[royal zenith]

same

[soft raft]

Guys, how come so many Balance Druids are running Stonebound Artistry on their weapon yet it's simming woefully, for myself anyway? Just curious

[eager raft]

hehe kibby

[delicate perch]

They do it to sell their enchants

[eager raft]

Me when I have 4 buttons to press

[leaden birch]

I probably just need to get gud

god knows I'm going to wc into a stun circle

[eager raft]

just don’t

[royal zenith]

bro you mained bamkin and bm hunter

I cannot

[rigid summit]

Electric current or Spark burst onthe belt?

[eager raft]

devoker unironically easier than both

[pseudo merlin]

pins on belt

[royal zenith]

isn't it described perfectly in the pins

on what to pick

as in every class discord?

[soft raft]

Top tier marketing ploy

[rigid summit]

im new to class discords

[royal zenith]

ah, check the pins!

[rigid summit]

Found it, cheers

[eager raft]

why is the black and white pic guy being rude?

[royal zenith]

👾

[eager raft]

invite me to your guild discord

[royal zenith]

Im not rude, furbie/chris is very much aware that I'm jesting

and being a bit sarcastic

[eager raft]

send me an invite

[royal zenith]

No

[rancid glen]

Dev probably one of the 3 easiest raid specs atm

[royal zenith]

wrong

[scenic mist]

@pseudo merlin still waiting for the bald discord invite tho

[rancid glen]

What do you think is easier than dev? Just curious

[drifting nova]

get help

[royal zenith]

Bm Hunter > Ret Paladin > Destro Warlock > Bamkin > devoker

[drifting nova]

fury warrior

[scenic mist]

SC devoker is basicaly sending everything on cd
FS devoker only has to mind having time to fully charge FB every window

Not that hard is it ?

[drifting nova]

innit pass revoked, sorry

[jade flume]

Help me

[rancid glen]

Engulf management could be tricky but loads of WAs to help

But that’s it pretty much

[scenic mist]

Well you can even chose to not engulf and send double engulf next window

[rancid glen]

Yeah I need a break for evoker

Only reading engulf gives me ptsd

[pseudo merlin]

It's very exclusive

Do you have IT?

[scenic mist]

The baldness ?

[pseudo merlin]

The it factor

Do you have it

Either you have it or you don't

[scenic mist]

Im not at liberty to say

[pseudo merlin]

:/

[scenic mist]

Iykyk

[round field]

Quick

Na

Someone who cleared raid with 1 button

Show logs

[scenic mist]

@pallid bay counting on you tonight

[pseudo merlin]

Sune's been doing that for years

Only he needed that gnome addon for it before

Now it's built into the game

[eager raft]

I did heroic vexie with 1 button as BM hunter

It’s not very good

[round field]

Wtf

[royal zenith]

If you think rotation is what makes specs hard to play

then yeah

every spec in this game is piss easy

[round field]

I thought bm is sub 1%

[royal zenith]

there's a literal reason you only lose 20% of damage if you apply a 1 button rotation to specs

with a GCD cooldown

[pseudo merlin]

Man I trolled my first key. Time to go 1 button I guess...

[round field]

I mean bro plays boomie and spends his time bragging about boss dps parses in discord what do you expect

[royal zenith]

not wrong

[scenic mist]

I’d argue what makes it hard is “can you do your rotation as intended when the boss is trying to kill you”

And for devoker the only mini game is making your FB window work, wouldn’t you agree ?

[royal zenith]

huh

what are you on about bro

[eager raft]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7Zj8cQkn3TMbwHJt?fight=11&type=damage-done

[scenic mist]

Tell us what is hard about devoker

In your sense

[royal zenith]

why would I need to prove myself to you

[eager raft]

Should be like a million higher

Then it was

[round field]

Cant say its bad then post rank 1 log

/s

[eager raft]

It’s not actually rank 1 it’s new partition

[round field]

Oh really

[eager raft]

no

[scenic mist]

No one needs anything, you gave a take, I’m interested in how you got there
Chill

[eager raft]

It’s rank 1

[royal zenith]

Eh no

[pseudo merlin]

dont tell my boy ducks to chill

the fuck

[royal zenith]

you're purposely arguing in a way that puts people in a corner

don't kid yourself

LMAO

[pseudo merlin]

🦆

[scenic mist]

You did nothing but say “nah”

[eager raft]

https://tenor.com/view/strawman-argument-debate-ref-debate-referee-meme-gif-3897723626715654039

[royal zenith]

yeah clearly I'm not looking for a discussion

wouldn't you agree?

[pseudo merlin]

playing chrono oddysey

what a shit name to spell

[royal zenith]

if I can get into the beta

[scenic mist]

Seems like it yeah
I mistook your attitude for something else
Maybe I’m used to ppl trying to explain their takes rather than just saying something and not elaborating, it’s mb

[royal zenith]

he keeps going

[pseudo merlin]

fix your attitude bro

chill

(ducks)

[royal zenith]

yeah true

anyway I was not being too serious about devoker

I was serious about my list though

[eager raft]

deux is right

Not gonna read what u guys are arguing about

[cloud lion]

Ok am i only1 whos druid is switching form on its own

[eager raft]

I just know deux is right

[royal zenith]

[cloud lion]

its going into boomkin than out and on repeat

[eager raft]

do u have cancel form macrod to ur spells

[pseudo merlin]

what now?

[cloud lion]

i do nothing

i dont press any button

he just swap

[eager raft]

does it happen with all forms

[cloud lion]

nah just chicken no chicken

🙂

[eager raft]

did u spill something on ur keyboard near ur boomy form button

[cloud lion]

its like pressing form on its own

m8 i didnt change anything for years

[eager raft]

Change the keybind to something else

[scenic mist]

Someone reported this earlier today

[eager raft]

And see if it still happens

[scenic mist]

Fixed it by making a moonkin form macro rather than using the usual spell iirc

But it doesn’t explain the root cause

[cloud lion]

the thing is my monkin form is on G

and when enter monkin for G is interupt

So its not like G gona get me out of moonkin form

[eager raft]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Very interesting

[cloud lion]

its not every time

when i alt tab it stops

its like holding button

[eager raft]

Do you have any button for exiting boomy form

[cloud lion]

nope

[scenic mist]

What happens when you open in game chat ?

[cloud lion]

it doesnt spam letters

its happening while im writing in guild chat

[pseudo merlin]

so weird lmao

[scenic mist]

I guess you already reloaded ?

[cloud lion]

looks like i have to turn off game and on to test it

[last nebula]

disable all addons and wa then test it, if its gone - toggle one after another on and see where it comes from

[cloud lion]

cant wait tonight on reclear convoke adn get out of form

[eager raft]

Did u figure out why this was happening or how to fix it

[scenic mist]

#balance message

[cloud lion]

gona do it anyway not using it

but now im trying to do it again

[quiet sluice]

@scenic mist so stoked for princess mononoke HD remake

[cloud lion]

funny thing is that moonkin for is not binded on special buttons its on real action bar

so it should not spam that thing

rest of forms are binded up there but not moonkin

looks like turning it off worked for now

cant wait in high m+ go bear for big hit and game say no no back to chicken

[scenic mist]

Someone of taste

[round field]

Blizzard released patch and something randomly broke

Impossible

They would never...

[eager raft]

[cloud lion]

u know why its broken

[scenic mist]

I mean

It kinda is the play tho

[lunar viper]

A small indie company making billions in profit a year can't possibly afford a small staff of QA testers. Don't be greedy.

[cloud lion]

they dont want to 1 button rotation be hold that oen button

instead of pressing

so they broke it

cuz u cant hold and cast one button rotation

[lunar viper]

Enough of the one button. We need a 0 button rotation where the game plays itself while you watch and occasionally move out of fire. Like in those mobile games.

That's what Blizzard wants, right?

[cloud lion]

there is one thing

pay little chinese to play game for u

ez Hall of Fame

[round field]

Id so play an idle rpg wow

No cap

[lunar viper]

Melvor Idle is great, not WoW though

[cloud lion]

Adventure Capitalist but wow version

[round field]

No

I got it

Make m+ an idle rpg

That would be goated

[cloud lion]

i have mages who did that

yesterday ws 19 perfect run no deaths kill all trash on top of 3rd boss and he decided to die 3 times in row

[round field]

Deserved for playing mplus

[cloud lion]

we were out of CRs cuz of him

[eager raft]

bullshit u can’t use press and hold with The Button

No fair

[pseudo merlin]

real

Just enable "hold down = repeat press" on keyboard software

ezpz

[lunar viper]

Oh m y god is one button so hard for you that you have to macro it and get banned?

Think about what you just said

[eager raft]

? wym

why shouldn’t I be able to hold it down

[cloud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/13-карт-gif-14026559412000478194

https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-you-gif-8906255

[hardy sapphire]

Spark Burst be better?

[cloud lion]

Check pinned post

im Gamz told me jumping off cliff is dps upgrade i will do it but in game

[lunar viper]

Joke's on you, I'm taking the shield ability

[calm ibex]

Then you’re losing like 2% dps

Lmao

[lunar viper]

Oh nooooooo what will I do? Put more DoTs to make up for it? The horror

[cloud lion]

Ignore him prob some old guy who got yeeted of discord

So came back to troll

[calm ibex]

Probably

[lunar viper]

The extra DPS is irrelevant if you get aggro and die because you ripped too hard before tank finished pulling

Definitely worth it in raid though

[eager raft]

🤨

[calm ibex]

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever read, trolling used to be believable

[cloud lion]

Well he have better gear than u

[calm ibex]

I’m bis lmao

Minus mug jug but I get that next week

[eager raft]

nobody has better gear than me

[calm ibex]

I thought my gear was good

[eager raft]

Ok maybe a few ppl do

they’re cheating tho playing with no embelishments

[calm ibex]

I’m stuck with cyrce’s

So I’m at like 682

[leaden birch]

I love cyrces

[cloud lion]

U guys lied to us

u should sunfire every mob

before moon fire

Tettles top dps with 1 button rotation on 18

[pseudo merlin]

what else is new

[hardy sapphire]

I can't believe I don't see

[leaden birch]

do you guys try to be ahead of mugzee during intermission? or is it a must to be following him from behind?

[cloud lion]

Why we get prio and flood next season WTF

[quiet drift]

Theyre bangers

[eager raft]

that’s what we voted for

All the trinket dungeons

Also they’re bangers

[cloud lion]

Why didnt we vote for something like Violet Hold

yes i want to watch world burn

[drifting nova]

both tazavesh?

[round field]

Hoa fuck yes

[cloud lion]

Well we will be in Tazavesh

[drifting nova]

budget sanguine halls

all these dungeons and it's gotta be 3 from sl

[round field]

Ye cause its the goated xpac

Should let us use covenants aswell

[drifting nova]

dw ...dawnbreaker will have all the fixes implemented

hows voting even done

wowhead? twitter?

forums?

[leaden birch]

yay, more trinkets

[eager raft]

Tazavesh trinket good too

[drifting nova]

middest of the extra dungeons

[pseudo merlin]

did kekkers just call tazavesh mid

or was that DB?

[drifting nova]

yes

middest of the non release dungeons

even worse than coen

the legion one

[fervent merlin]

wtf gambit is cracked

[frozen saddle]

can someone explain how the moons work

[lyric stag]

they control the tides

[frozen saddle]

cuz I don't see a single active or passive ability in my spellbook or talents that says what causes a new/half/full moon

but I see things affected by it

[scenic mist]

They just cycle

[lyric stag]

it's on a cycle, so it starts with new moon, then goes to half, then full

[scenic mist]

First cast is new

Then half then full then new again

[lyric stag]

each one has a progressively longer cast time and does more damage than the last and gives more ap

[scenic mist]

Same button

[frozen saddle]

every single cast of any ability changes it?

[lyric stag]

no

[scenic mist]

Of the moon ability

[frozen saddle]

what moon ability

[scenic mist]

It’s a 3 charges ability

Take the talent

It gives you a spell

Bottom right of balance tree

Press new moon, ggs, now button reads half moon
Press it again, ggs, now it reads full moon, etc

[scenic mist]

Node above

You took Fury of elune

Other choice is moon

[frozen saddle]

does fury of alune not do any moon things?

[scenic mist]

It does not

It does fury of elune things

[frozen saddle]

then why does the ability only do moon things

idk this is confusing

[scenic mist]

This phrase makes no sense

Talking about radiant moonlight talent ?

[frozen saddle]

everything effecst moons but not everything effects fury of elune

[scenic mist]

Everything doesn’t affect moons

You have talents that are modifiers for moons OR FoE

So the benefit of said talent will depend on the choice you make on the moon/foe node

[scenic mist]

Moonfire is another spell

[leaden birch]

looks like fury of elune to me

[scenic mist]

Moonlight

Mooneverything

The moon ctrl-f is a bad idea in an astral themed class

Just confusing names for a newcomer ig

Don’t search for Umbral

You’ll be mad

[scenic mist]

@frozen saddle this is the important part

[pseudo merlin]

wait why are we getting priory and FG again

huh

[scenic mist]

Cause easy trinkets ig

For both casters and melee

I mean that’s why ppl voted for them in my head canon

[pseudo merlin]

wait a minute...

[frozen saddle]

a dumb reason to vote for them. but the reason people voted for them

[pseudo merlin]

half of these tier sets are recolors?

[frozen saddle]

the only people who voted for dungeons based on how good they were voted for dawnbreaker

[scenic mist]

One year in and I still have no clue whether p1 damage on rashanan are relevant or not

[frozen saddle]

I have a feeling he phased based on % right?

I don't remember much of s1 m+

[meager storm]

hoa my beloved

[frozen saddle]

I'm just hyped for tazavesh

[noble spindle]

I still have nightmares from dawnbreaker...

[frozen saddle]

might make me play uhdk if they change san'layn or make riders meta

[noble spindle]

Tanking week 1 and boss just one tapped my bear...

Maybe I shouldn't play bear with no vers

[meager storm]

i just made a macro for it, i had the spell by itself somehow it is buggy

[merry ibex]

guys idk what to do for embellshments if someone can please help.. i only do M+. Should i do acension? Duskthread? Focusing lens? im kinda lost

[pseudo merlin]

the fuck is this

[pseudo merlin]

compendium in pins

I think this is the first tier ever where every class set makes you look like a clown?

[merry ibex]

ty, was using wowhead but i think it was focused towards raiding

[pseudo merlin]

Compendium has all the info and is most up to date

(always)

[drifting nova]

pikachu face

[craggy sonnet]

dawnbreaker was not a great dungeon

imo

[drifting nova]

bugbreaker

[craggy sonnet]

priory prolly voted in for visuals i guess

floodgate cause its very open and allows for creative routing stuff

[leaden birch]

trinkets

[drifting nova]

votes are a mistake

[craggy sonnet]

idk

you say trinkets

but where proof

[leaden birch]

proof is in the dungeon journal

[craggy sonnet]

ara kara and dawn are just the 2 easiest dungeons from s1

[leaden birch]

sacbrood

[craggy sonnet]

that people loved to complete their weeklies in

[round field]

Dawnbreaker easy,
Sacbrood
Signet
Agi trinket i forgot the name of

[craggy sonnet]

you can list trinkets sure

[crisp badger]

im trying to learn how to use MDT sim, i ran a sim on a floodgate route and it spit out 3.853m dps. idk what to expect but i usually do 6-7m overall in floodgate so did i fuck up my sim or is it just what it is?

[drifting nova]

wasnt the loot spread bad this season?

[scarlet tapir]

... @subtle sail

[craggy sonnet]

doesnt mean its the reason people voted for them

[scarlet tapir]

should be around 700 ilvl

[craggy sonnet]

maybe?
but also dmg amps etc do not happen in mdt sim

[scarlet tapir]

if the scaling goes the same as in this tier

[pseudo merlin]

You gott to run the route youre simming

otherwise how would it map onto reality

[subtle sail]

im asking the smart guys

[crisp badger]

why do you assume i didn't

[pseudo merlin]

and the sims don't account for external factors

[subtle sail]

You think it will be better than current myth gear?

[scarlet tapir]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1378896203919654922.webp?size=96

[pseudo merlin]

Like your group turbo blasting

[subtle sail]

Was normal gear ever better than current myth?

[scarlet tapir]

i mean depends on how much scaling they do

[crisp badger]

ok that's good to know

[lucid olive]

Unless you make it!

[scarlet tapir]

veteran is same as last tier myth

more or less

so id assume champion is worth equipping

if its not tier set

[pseudo merlin]

ya

[crisp badger]

i saw you can do like some group option, do you need to be in a party for that then?

[subtle sail]

oh damn wtf

[lyric stag]

nah group options are meant for solo play actually

[eager raft]

There is 1 common theme between the 4

It doesn’t take much critical thinking to understand that’s the reason

[crisp badger]

we're talking about simming little bro

[craggy sonnet]

did you vote?

[scarlet tapir]

max ilvl veteran from this tier is + 6 ilvls on last tier myth which was 639 iirc

[lyric stag]

lol

[eager raft]

I don’t remember. I don’t think so

[lucid olive]

There's something on the MDT Sim wago page about multi actor sims but I haven't looked at it

[eager raft]

I wouldn’t have voted Ara Kara or dawnbreaker personally tho

[crisp badger]

yeah i just wonder if its able to generate the string without people in the party

[lucid olive]

I voted Rookery

[crisp badger]

whether there's also an option to just make shit up

[subtle sail]

this is why I asked the smart guys

[crisp badger]

ill dig into it

[craggy sonnet]

💀

[scarlet tapir]

see im smart

[leaden birch]

entropic skardyn core

[lucid olive]

Yes you just get weakaura, open MDT, click button to export string and paste it in expert footer

[scarlet tapir]

no way champ gear is 680

[leaden birch]

[crisp badger]

you need an actual party to do that

[lucid olive]

No, 14 minute dungeon

[subtle sail]

that sounds right its slightly worse than current myth

[eager raft]

What does champ currently cap at

649?

[lucid olive]

658

[scarlet tapir]

658

[leaden birch]

sure thing buddy

[eager raft]

So it should cap at 694 next szn

Unless the turbo boost makes them do things differently

[lucid olive]

It caps at the last Runed Crest upgrade

But imagine you won't get a lot of Runed week 1

[eager raft]

Yeah presumably 90

[subtle sail]

Yeah probs worth using if you can spend crests before runed on it

trinkets non-tier slots

really good for alts

[lucid olive]

@pseudo merlin new keystone deserter system

Surely this won't be abused right

[lyric stag]

surely

[leaden birch]

keystone deserter

wow

[scarlet tapir]

if ur against it ur part of the problem

unluck

[lucid olive]

Can't wait to be in a key that is 10 minutes overtime and you're on 3rd boss out of 4th so you leave and the 4 other people are premades and don't abandon vote and you get flagged as a leaver

Gg..

[eager raft]

just don’t pug

Problem solved

[lucid olive]

If you don't think this'll get abused you should join more leveling dungeons

[leaden birch]

nah there's no way a depleted key will count as deserting

the craziest shit though is how you can still get kicked from a group and get deserter

[lucid olive]

Yeah unironically won't be pugging much with this change

[lucid olive]

🙂

I've seen groups in TW dungeons that chain kick people for fun

[scarlet tapir]

u cant get kicked from an lfg dung

[leaden birch]

I swear you can be voted out

[lucid olive]

Nah but it's the same principle

[subtle sail]

"guys this mage we pugged is doing no kicks, lets give him deserter for 30 min and find a new guy"

banger

[leaden birch]

or did they change that

[lucid olive]

From queued dungeons and not LFG

[scarlet tapir]

queued dungeons yes, on m+ u cant

[leaden birch]

oh yes, I'm not talking about lfg

[pseudo merlin]

did I miss that

[lucid olive]

Yeah this system is gonna suck ass

[pseudo merlin]

link

[leaden birch]

I'm talking queued dungeons

[lucid olive]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-leavers-finally-penalized-with-new-deserter-system-coming-in-season-3-377286

[scarlet tapir]

no one plays that

[leaden birch]

it gets abused both ways tho tbf

[scarlet tapir]

@eager raft

will i get last piece of the puzzle today

or will it never drop

[leaden birch]

is that ST?

[scarlet tapir]

yea what would it be

[eager raft]

What u need crit>haste

?

[pseudo merlin]

lmao

nah that system is fucked

ah well

[scarlet tapir]

haste> anything

[leaden birch]

I'm just more in disbelief that I'm 300k sim dps off from bis

[pseudo merlin]

I guess I just go afk

[scarlet tapir]

but pref vers

[pseudo merlin]

lmao

Leaving keys is the only way I can stay sane and not resort to slurring

[eager raft]

That shit never drops with good stats

[scarlet tapir]

that shit never drops

[eager raft]

True

I had it in my vault the last 2 weeks with mast>crit and crit>mast

But I took necklaces both weeks lmao in hindsight I wish I took the big mastery one last week

[round field]

i got mast crit last week

could replace circlet with it but i have no crests

[pseudo merlin]

city of echoes is the non shit arakara dungeon right

[maiden pasture]

ye?

its not the cringe RP one where u go around finding the spys

[pseudo merlin]

yeah

thank fuck

[maiden pasture]

honestly people just voted for

mass aoe and good trinkets

xd

[pseudo merlin]

probably

Hot take

I want train dungeon back

[maiden pasture]

[pseudo merlin]

That was a fucking banger

[signal temple]

So aside from Signet in Priory and Sacbrood in Ara-Kara, do these dungeons have anything good in them?
I haven't actually seriously played a Boomie until now.

[pseudo merlin]

I mean trinkets are really the only good things from dungeons no

[eager raft]

Grimrail is sweet

[pseudo merlin]

everything else is just gear with stats on it

Grimrail was so good dude

[eager raft]

That whole SL s4 dungeon pool was so good

[pseudo merlin]

idk why people hate on it

Yes it was

[eager raft]

iron docks banged

[pseudo merlin]

Like there's some annoying bits in grimrail with camera shenanigans

but other than that it bangs

[signal temple]

Grimrail & Docks are easily in my top 5 favorite dungeons ever.

[drifting nova]

annoying? bits?

that entire dungeon is a camera hellhole

[pseudo merlin]

no its not

[drifting nova]

it's so bad

[pseudo merlin]

its just the middle section before second boss

[eager raft]

kekkers detected opinion rejected

[drifting nova]

it makes dark souls look good

[signal temple]

that's what I do, I think good.

[drifting nova]

I will drag you elitists down to the casual level

[pseudo merlin]

[drifting nova]

screaming if I have to

[eager raft]

Haven’t had to bust that one out in a long time

[signal temple]

The Doctor is in, and the prescription is Yapping

[drifting nova]

..but prescriptions are good for you?

so you want the yap?

[signal temple]

Speaking of trains I think Operator in Foundry is a real sweet encounter.

[royal zenith]

did we ban kekkers yet

[eager raft]

kekkers should be orange name

[lofty depot]

Revendreth back so venthyr bamkin back surely

[pseudo merlin]

When are we getting Maiev style guardian druid spec

[signal temple]

Denathrius appearance when

[lofty depot]

Hero talents tier sets....

Tree tier set woooooooooo

[signal temple]

Elune's Chosen: TWO FREAKING LASER BEAMS

[lofty depot]

Twin Beaming

[pseudo merlin]

triple treants

and they now cast sunfire too

[lucid olive]

Tier set for each hero tree

Keeper tier set: consuming dream burst increases your healing with 10%

EC tier set: atmospheric exposure also reduces damage taken from the target

[tight trellis]

anyone got a macro for one button that doesnt cancel convoke?

[craggy sonnet]

suuuuuuurely hero talent updates

[pseudo merlin]

[lucid olive]

Tettles posted one last night you can search for it

[tight trellis]

alright ty

raid in 20 but gooning comes first

[little kelp]

Was wondering if anyone here had a starlord tracker in the phases of the moon as a weak aura

[lofty depot]

What does "in the phases of moon" mean

[little kelp]

0 stacks: Empty(new moon)
1 Stack: crescent
2: gibbous
3: full

[lofty depot]

U mean instead of the buff saying 1/2/3 it's a picture of different moon phases?

[pseudo merlin]

has to be like lunar eclipse right?

[little kelp]

yeee

[pseudo merlin]

wait

[lofty depot]

rolls for something

[pseudo merlin]

oh

that's certainly creative

[loud kettle]

Perfect

[lofty depot]

No I don't, go make one

[little kelp]

yeah, I'm sure i'd have to make it

[lofty depot]

Yea I roll 12, I was gonna body u

Got lucky

[dim bolt]

Hi! What is the best titan effect for balance druid?

[little kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-okay-umm-awkward-situation-huh-gif-5850917

[mortal patio]

Шепотнаушкиdummy

[lofty depot]

Read the pin

[lofty depot]

English

[orchid fjord]

Can someone look at this and tell me if im doing something stupid with my sim?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cBNnyDtfHLYjWvvQmRAqmW

[scenic mist]

or spanish ?

[lofty depot]

No

[little kelp]

trying to keep my UI as clean as possible. I'll probably have to put it together myself, all I really need is a B/W dot filling out, so

[lofty depot]

Latest

Idk if the buffs are in

[pseudo merlin]

I'm not sure how a massive icon of moon phases is cleaner than the numbers 1 2 and 3

But it sounds like a cool idea

[orchid fjord]

thank you

[little kelp]

Oh, I'd have it really tiny in all honesty.

[pseudo merlin]

ah

[lofty depot]

Oh I get it Wenothaywkn means reapectable and then dummy

[little kelp]

would be smaller than the action bar icons

[lofty depot]

I'm tilted, please delete that

[little kelp]

no 🖤

[pseudo merlin]

oh yeah that is

certainly a decision

[royal zenith]

are you playing NeoPets?

[lofty depot]

I'm glad they're removing add-ons because of ur ui

[pseudo merlin]

[lofty depot]

That's on jah

[little kelp]

glad I could contribute to the war effort

[signal temple]

Another settlement needs your help.
I marked it on your map.

[little kelp]

I removed my minimap but I'm sure I'll get there someday

[fiery harness]

How to find a mythic raiding guild? Is there any forum or platform for that

[drifting nova]

big if true

[royal zenith]

stay strong

[drifting nova]

I'd ban you so hard

[scenic mist]

search through raiderio/wowprogress, apply

[drifting nova]

[eager raft]

Are u na or eu or other

[pseudo merlin]

wowprogress.com

[drifting nova]

give up and quit (like me)

[lofty depot]

Warcraftlogs has recruitment aswell, there's also discords

[fiery harness]

Na

[scenic mist]

https://www.wowprogress.com/pve/us

[eager raft]

Here’s the na recruitment disc

Oh this stupid server won’t let me post it

[drifting nova]

imagine if the ingame system was functional

[pseudo merlin]

I got recruited by my current guild through in game mail

They legit randomly sent me an in game mail

[royal zenith]

it literally is

[pseudo merlin]

[lucid olive]

DM it to him innit

[eager raft]

no

[lucid olive]

Okay then bitch

[drifting nova]

no, wrong

[mighty mica]

surely it's in the wowhead page of servers https://www.wowhead.com/discord-servers

[eager raft]

I’ll dm it to you

And you pass it on

Thyme did u hear the good news

[mighty mica]

shut up

[drifting nova]

dreamgrove whispers

[eager raft]

Yes sir sorry sir

[pseudo merlin]

Thyme are you ever going to be BALD?

[royal zenith]

at least tell him the good news

[eager raft]

Tazavesh is coming back thyme that’s the good news

[unkempt jetty]

best belt power for balance?

[eager raft]

Say congrats

[scenic mist]

pins

[pseudo merlin]

pins

[lucid olive]

I only see Bolt, what power is Pins? Is it locked behind something?

[mighty mica]

genetics say no

[unkempt jetty]

is pins charged bolts?

[fiery harness]

ty guys!

[scenic mist]

maybe

[lofty depot]

Is that what it says?

[trail verge]

Hello everyone

Whats the general consenaus on the voltaic weapon from rookery on myth track

Any good or very bad?

[lofty depot]

Bad

Craft a weapon

[trail verge]

I already have a crafted 2hander with ascension

[lofty depot]

Ok so th only thing that beats crafted is mBIS

[trail verge]

Just wondering cause then i have to take S.A.D., all 3 of my vault choices i already have except the voltaic weapon

[eager raft]

sockets r good

[trail verge]

Raid wep is bis?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[trail verge]

I dont raid mythic unfortunately

[lofty depot]

Then u have ur bis

[trail verge]

Thank you for the help and your time

[lusty pelican]

hey, what are the best settings for simming m+ ?

[mighty mica]

1t5m lazy sim, mdt for more confidence, check the compendium for more info

[pseudo merlin]

What's better: Starfall of glyph of the sun starfall?

[mighty mica]

what

[pseudo merlin]

you heard me

[mighty mica]

yeah, but i don't understand you

[jade jacinth]

Sorry to be a noob here, what do i pick here?

[covert coyote]

normal starfall because sun starfall is unrealistic

[pseudo merlin]

Nobody ever does 😦

[pseudo merlin]

the sun is a star

[covert coyote]

if the sun is a star then what are stars tough guy

[lapis mica]

good folks who play cataclysm, did you encounter such a problem with power tracker? what can cause it? Can't load my balance power tracker. I've downloaded this version

[pseudo merlin]

idk im no astrologist

[loud kettle]

Left

[loud kettle]

stars

[pseudo merlin]

Which one do you prefer boo

[mighty mica]

i can't prefer something i do not understand

even though i'm american, i'm not an idiot

[pseudo merlin]

you dont know about solar starfall?

[mighty mica]

NO

[pseudo merlin]

damn

[mighty mica]

i don't play stinky casters

[lofty depot]

Doesn't matter

[pseudo merlin]

wtf thyme

[lofty depot]

U don't barrage farm in osrs?

[mighty mica]

necessary evil

[covert coyote]

I splash chickens in lumby

[pseudo merlin]

Peoples brains just fall apart the moment there's more than 1 purple thing on the screen

[neon fossil]

is Circlet dead? One gem gives 0 stat

[plucky valley]

Y’all think they gonna give boomie some added flavor to make the spec more fun?

[scenic mist]

maybe hero talent set bonus can do this

to an extent

[plucky valley]

Oh good thinking

I’d like a mechanic to help us spread moonfire more quickly I think that would be cool

[pseudo merlin]

no

[plucky valley]

So true king

[scenic mist]

remember

to invite me

[pseudo merlin]

The only thing they need to do is rework eclipses

[scenic mist]

[pseudo merlin]

That will fix all problems

[plucky valley]

In what way

[pseudo merlin]

They've never tried that before

[scenic mist]

LMAO

[pseudo merlin]

Any way, I'm sure they'll cook something up

How bad could it be

[scenic mist]

"you now remain in the same eclipse for the entire fight"

[pseudo merlin]

Idk I feel like the only iteration of eclipses that I never hated was SL beta

[scenic mist]

WoD was...ok ?

idk

get rid of it

[pseudo merlin]

ya idk

maybe its time

I don't think it would be the end of the world to just wrath in ST and STF in AOE

Maybe we'll get voidkin in the next patch

[digital berry]

Can’t we just have a button to swap between them so we don’t ever get fucked by mechanics outside of eclipse

[pseudo merlin]

dont need a button if you remove eclipses

[lofty depot]

Toggle 1 button macro

Ezpz

[round field]

its just pointless flavor mechanic tbh

[eager raft]

piss name

[pseudo merlin]

I died to this twice

Literally 0 incoming heals

[pseudo merlin]

I mean asides from the things tied to it like boat, shs, sunder

those are ways to make it more than just flavor

they'd need to come up with an alternative way to trigger those things

They need to just give SI to moonkin already

[royal zenith]

that's not the deathlog that shows incoming heal..

[pseudo merlin]

That information is really not required right

[royal zenith]

nor defensives...

[pseudo merlin]

There werent any

Because I used them on the previous one

[signal temple]

I got yelled at once for not helping with the adds.
I was DoTing them, using Typhoon and Ursol's, but the tank was getting antsy about then getting close.
The other dps were a Paladin and a Rogue. They expected only me to be enough to kill the adds.

[royal zenith]

[pseudo merlin]

I did not bear form though

Like

IT's a mechanic where you have 6 seconds to heal people for like 2m max

for them to survive

requiring bear form for that is madness

[royal zenith]

I dunno, you died to it twice

[pseudo merlin]

This is one of those rare but literal "one heal?" situations

[royal zenith]

of course it's easier to blame the heal

[pseudo merlin]

I never blame healers

[signal temple]

Just spam Regrowth, duh

[pseudo merlin]

In this case it was very much the healer

[crisp scaffold]

what embellish is best in raid ?

[pseudo merlin]

pins

[pseudo merlin]

Remember when regrowth actually healed like 20% of your health +10%

and not 4+1

[royal zenith]

Iunno, you're getting invited to 13's on a pisslow alt

surely you press bearform every once in a while

[pseudo merlin]

yup

But you can't genuinely be arguing that with the only incoming damage over a 6 second window being one mechanic that's literally rot

nvm

[royal zenith]

I think it's easier to look at what you can improve for yourself

unless you just want to rant about not getting healed

that's also an option

[proper sinew]

This mechanic is totally a healer thing, you dying is still you dying though

[crisp scaffold]

checked pin ,but idk how to sim best embellish for my char

[royal zenith]

You can find the embellishments in the guide

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

check menu on the left, should say embellishments

[spice hedge]

what emblishments do you run if you arent running ascendance?

[royal zenith]

[eager raft]

Duskthread lining

[spice hedge]

for raid and m+? i assume running best in slots mythic is the play over crafted weapon and ascendance

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[spice hedge]

thnx

[eager raft]

@fiery hill hey

Tazavesh is coming back 🙂

[maiden pasture]

i got no balls on stix for the first time this week

holy fuck thats a nice feeling

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/starfall-gif-2909646910056891152

[eager raft]

Did u r1

[maiden pasture]

i mean its dogshit 11.1.7 r1

[eager raft]

My goat

[fiery hill]

Hey man :) streets is my all time favorite dungeon :)

[noble spindle]

did someone do math on one button rotation

i wanna know how much dps loss it is

[quiet drift]

My teammate bottom dpsd with it on Vexie

so prolly not good

[nova ocean]

Vexie is a very bad example

[twilit shard]

what disc we choosing on belt?

[pseudo merlin]

pins

[glass geyser]

i need some assistance when it comes to M+ and Raid gear/ stats/ rotation. I am not hitting for what I should be getting. I am not sure what to do or my next step. I do utilize raidbots/ simc, wowhead, archon, and i look up top players to see what their stats are and what attacks they are particularly using for boss fights, etc

[lucid olive]

Don't think about stats

Any thought process put into worrying about stats you should put into practicing getting good casting uptime and making sure you're playing correctly

Raidbots, Dreamgrove Compendium and Warcraftlogs are the only 3 resources you need

[scarlet tapir]

@wicked shuttle

https://wago.io/SXRj5Tb1XZ

try this

and see if its better

lmao

[wicked shuttle]

It’s beyond broken

https://x.com/tettles/status/1935437419580637219

Peyton Tettleton (@tettles)

New One-Button Assistant weakaura just dropped that doesn’t pay the GCD penalty and will press your cooldowns for you! It’s based off Hekili data, so it’ll be a better rotation as well!!

The modern age of wow is upon us.

X · Jun 18, 2025, 8:40 PM

I tweeted about it

It’s the perfect rotation

It’s literally so beyond broken it’s insane.

[vapid anvil]

Someone have a name intervate macro that if the person isnt in the group it will use it on target/mouseover?

[lucid olive]

I remember saying when the button was announced that surely the tech behind this opens up opportunities to make weakauras or addons that just cast for you

Guess I was right

[wicked shuttle]

I’d get outdpsed by this thing ngl

[brittle oasis]

sims are wanting me to stack a bunch of crit over haste at the moment. is that bait? almost all the folks I am looking at have far less crit

[lucid olive]

The sim is correct

whether you configured the sim correctly is something else

[brittle oasis]

🤔

[crisp shale]

what are the ideal stat percentage i wanna shoot for with boomie

[lofty depot]

There's nothing ur shooting for. Sim will tell u what to take gear wise. Generally it's haste and mastery

[crisp shale]

okat thanks

[round field]

does it it work for keeper aswell

[wicked shuttle]

ofc

[brittle oasis]

just simming single target. is there something specific I need to configure?

[lucid olive]

Nah you're probably good

[scenic mist]

NG stacks wasted spotted

still room to improve

[maiden pasture]

it used my BIS on pull and not HOC for convoke

GG

[wicked shuttle]

gg

[meager storm]

all asians are gonna use this in raid man

https://tenor.com/view/omgbruh-corey-harris-omg-bruh-zoom-court-gif-2693074222613527227

[maiden pasture]

99% chance its fixed within a week

[scenic mist]

i sure hope so

[pseudo pine]

BiS or HoC mythic with dinars?
or is it a sim angle to see?

Got 681 craft wep adn 671 Signet

[scenic mist]

sim angle yes

will probably tell you to take the trinket since you should have 2 embelish on the weapon

sim it with new embelish elsewhere when trying BIS

[pseudo pine]

ye looks like HoC angle

[lucid olive]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/all-season-3-tier-set-bonuses-revealed-377338

"Starfire damage increased by 25%" for EC

[young horizon]

druid tier is

getting nerfed

no way

[lucid olive]

that keeper 4pc

???

[young horizon]

wait and ele too

[quiet drift]

what

the fuck

is that

[lucid olive]

"next 2 Starsurges damage for an additional amount equal to 5% of your damage done while it was active"

that sounds

insane

?

You use treants and launch all the damage you possibly can inside the window and it explodes at the end?

[quiet drift]

Touch of the Druidi

[ebon void]

i'm sorry, VICTIM?

[scenic mist]

the prophecy

[maiden pasture]

why A victim

why not the main target

[meager storm]

LET IT GO MAN

LET IT GO STOP IT

[ebon void]

probably so it hits splash targets too

[maiden pasture]

yeah but thats

not what anyone wnats

XD

[nova ocean]

Both versions of our tier sounds real strong

[meager storm]

convoke op

ggs

[quiet drift]

real

[fathom spoke]

Hi, Hekili developer here. Just stating that we have nothing to do with that weakaura and don't condone it at all.

[nova ocean]

Will that was get u banned lol

[lofty depot]

HOLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

WERE BLASTING

[nova ocean]

we are getting nerfed thats wats happening

no way this is going live

[fathom spoke]

Almost certainly. Disappointing that it was even posted.

[nova ocean]

ya

[bold pawn]

I love the dryad summon for KoTG

[balmy light]

keeper of the grovs is actually stonks in raid or

[rotund kiln]

Hi mates - can anyone tell me whether the sim makes sense like this? Straight base with haste/versa as owl - single and M+ the same
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uz9tbfe6ze7qj19kj8tUKS

[meager storm]

this may not be as good as we think till we test

[nova ocean]

funny that keeper makes us summon more shit lol

[fathom spoke]

Now we're going to have to deal with an influx of people in our discord trying to get it working zz

[lofty depot]

PER STACK

we playing around sundered firm now 👀

pew pewp epwpepew

[pseudo merlin]

yo but this 1 butto nrotation WA is surely going to make blizzard speedrun sunsetting addons even more

it's so over

[nova ocean]

i dont think they are gonna rush more just cause of this

[sudden pawn]

yo are sims out for the new tier sets yet??