balance

[wraith moss]

so I can just go in fungal folly, end it and its gg?

[vagrant cove]

Belt powers drop in non-overcharged delves, I got mine today just doing a tier 1 regular one

Yep :)

[wraith moss]

ty

[vagrant cove]

No worries, just make sure to loot the boxes because its a drop and not something thats given to you directly

Guaranteed drop ofc

[fiery harness]

is heroic jestor ring better than 681 crafting ring

[vital hound]

sim it

[fiery harness]

i don't have them

how do i sim gears that i don't have

[vital hound]

in top gear

type it in

add it

[vagrant cove]

I just simmed both on my toon specifically, the Jastor was a 900 dps loss compared to the 681 crafted ring. I would very much recommend simming it yourself for your toon however on raidbots

[pallid bay]

?

[vagrant cove]

@pallid bay

[fiery harness]

I don't have them how do i sim them? is there a setting?

[vagrant cove]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot
Go to "Top Gear", type /simc ingame and copy/paste the string into the box (if you have the simulationcraft addon), then scroll down to "Item Search" and add both the 681 crafted ring and the 671 jastor ring. Then just make sure to add gems and enchants to them if you're comparing them to a gemmed or enchanted ring and then sim them

[chrome spruce]

can we make 1 button assist not to interupt convoke when we spam it?

[modern marlin]

Question, Simming for me currently is showing haste on rings over mastery. Is simming inaccurate here? I see all top balance druids with mastery on rings for enchant. Could it be because of a breakpoint in mastery I hit? Also is there any resources or do sims account for radiant power and at what ilvl it overtakes since it has a higher weight at higher ilvls?

[fiery harness]

how do i solve this

[white chasm]

?

[vagrant cove]

Didnt even know that there was an openers tab, that also helps thankyou

[wanton plank]

one button assist is disappointing. It's too strong.

[wicked shuttle]

It’s all good!

Why learn the spec?

Just press 1 button

[warm holly]

I think it would be funny to test out the OBR and out dps some of my guildies

just to take a piss on them for not learning their buttons

[wicked shuttle]

I think you might in the current form

Shit, your DPS might go up even!

[delicate perch]

finally tettles with good advice

[merry ibex]

Didn't they say it's like 25% less damage or something?

[delicate perch]

ya they lied

use one button ASAP

[wicked shuttle]

For moonkin it’s like mmmmm

16% on ST

20% on AOE or so

[fossil hemlock]

Is that pure sending everything on CD?

Or still thinking about CDs

[wicked shuttle]

On cd

[fossil hemlock]

So 0 CDR-talent value

This game is wild

[fossil hemlock]

I can't remember the name of it, the -15 second one

Dream something

[delicate perch]

I'm using it on every spec and no one can stop me

[wicked shuttle]

Well bountiful spring and boutneous bloom might be better

Bc of the syncing

The issue isn’t the numbers provided being wrong, the issue is players are BAD

[fossil hemlock]

My favorite is the demo lock sim for it. "1button doesn't always set up your demons correctly, and doesn't use tyrant at all, but if you manually work around that it's only a 7% loss" bruh at that point you're just playing the spec

[wicked shuttle]

And people don’t recognize how bad they are

[wicked shuttle]

That’s 1 button and you press tyrant when you have imps out

That’s like nothing

That’s nothing close to playing the spec

[wanton plank]

it needs to do like 20% of simmed dps to correlate to average player skill.

[delicate perch]

@vital hound how many bosses you using one button rotation for tonight

[wicked shuttle]

Like you could time a 19 with 3 DPS using it

It’s awful for the game

[wanton plank]

that's title right now, I think?

[young heart]

hi can we get the Spark Burst effect for the belt today?

[delicate perch]

wrong it's insane for the game

[wanton plank]

it's absurd.

[delicate perch]

I already use 0 brain power in m+ now I can use even less? login

[pallid bay]

average player is always disingenuous unless defined tbh

[turbid peak]

Does it kick/cc aswell?

[delicate perch]

no

[wanton plank]

no

it's not an iwin button yet.

[turbid peak]

guess that would be abit op

[delicate perch]

if you hover over it, it lists the buttons it can put into the rotation

[wicked shuttle]

Fair

[jade flume]

50%

[delicate perch]

(which for some reason has moonkin form)

[turbid peak]

just need someone to make a custom addon for 1 button rotation so its even better

[wicked shuttle]

This isn’t an accessibility feature. They removed gameplay from the patch

[pallid bay]

ok but 50% of the playerbase probably dosnt do any keys to begin with

[delicate perch]

more than 50 surely

[fossil hemlock]

You're not forced to use it

[wanton plank]

think one button might be celebrated the first month, but once it becomes apparent, yea.... horrible for WOW.

[delicate perch]

imagine losing to someone using it though

[pallid bay]

i will be reclearing with 1button

[fossil hemlock]

Get gud angle?

[pallid bay]

what macro do i need toodles

[wicked shuttle]

Sec

[delicate perch]

I'll also being using it

[wicked shuttle]

There’s a cast sequence for the opener

Looking

[jade flume]

When are they adding auto quester thing like in korean mmos

[turbid peak]

im actually suprised its this good, though youd be like 30-40% behind atleast

[jade flume]

So my char just does quests when im offline

That wouldve been good

[delicate perch]

idle wow when? let me log in 2 hours before reset with a full vault

[wanton plank]

Might as well download an idle game at that point. Did play a mmo with autoplay briefly, Mir4. (Cause it was also crypto) lol.

[pallid bay]

tbf i'll just use /cast [nochannel] 1button

[wanton plank]

I played it for like..... an hour.

[pallid bay]

and then press CA when it uses trees ig

[wicked shuttle]

Maybe something like

/castsequence reset=3 wrath,wrath,sunfire,moonfire,force of nature,celestial alsignment,13,212265,starsurge,starsurge,starsurge,convoke the spirits,0 ```

and

```/cast [nochanneling:Convoke] One-Button Assist```

[pallid bay]

based

[wicked shuttle]

the opener in raid is jank bc it just wants to raw open sunfire

[wanton plank]

can Blizzard even remove this without backlash at this point? People just want number go up.

[delicate perch]

nope I will complain

[wanton plank]

next raid tier...... yikes. HOF 1 button? (I think definitely post HOF should be viable.)

[royal zenith]

so you're saying we should protect wow players from being bad at the game @wicked shuttle

[wicked shuttle]

I think it’s terrible for the game.

[turbid peak]

maybe its a new metric for blizzard to balance around, if certain specs performe badly, then just optimise the one button rotation abit...

[pallid bay]

did they fix the gcd thing with casts

[wicked shuttle]

It’s 25% gcd penalty now

Instead of .3s

[royal zenith]

I guess it all depends on what you define as 'the game'

[wanton plank]

that's horrible for actual gameplay though, for people who want to play rather than just perform well.

[royal zenith]

if they make more money cause more people play, they are winning

[pallid bay]

yeah but if i cast a starfire

[royal zenith]

cause more subs

[pallid bay]

and gcd finishes before cast finishes

do i get penalty?

[wanton plank]

there's short term and long term though. I think this is horrible for sub numbers even long term.

[turbid peak]

ye obviously, this one button rotation should never be some what close

[wanton plank]

It's an FPS that officially supports aimbots.....

[fossil hemlock]

I genuinely don't think it will affect anything

[pallid bay]

lets be real though, 16% isnt close

[fossil hemlock]

And people are just bringing out the pitchforks day 1

[round field]

This does not affect sub numbers

Lmao

[jade flume]

Sounds like all battle royales

[wanton plank]

use one button or do way less dps, is not a good place to be.

[fossil hemlock]

I don't think this will impact most people raiding mythic or pushing m+

[round field]

Bm biggest winner

[wicked shuttle]

I outdpsed a DK and a mage in a 17 today. I would’ve probably done like 10% more dps or so if I was actually playing

[turbid peak]

i remember early legion, was alot of ppl using rotation bots

[round field]

Goes from 2 button apec to 1 button spec at no dps loss

[wicked shuttle]

But there are a lot of bad players

Doing bad stuff

[royal zenith]

I mean, if you can't beat the button - maybe you're supposed to use the button

[pallid bay]

yea..

[royal zenith]

let's be real

[jade flume]

Im losing to a button

[pallid bay]

no..

[wanton plank]

then it's tuned way too high.

[royal zenith]

wrong

people are just really bad at the game

[jade flume]

Button is not recommended for disc priest tho apparently

[royal zenith]

and if you want to improve, you will improve either way

[merry ibex]

Does it help people who parse atleast 75%?

[royal zenith]

people already use hekili

[rapid bobcat]

Melee would be more affected than caster right? And beating arcane (presuming arcane) isn’t much of a flex.

Now to see 2 equal of the same class competing would be the test.

[wanton plank]

hekili doesn't do your rotation for you.

[wicked shuttle]

i think whenever i was learning ele shaman it wouldve taken me legitimately a month+ to learn how to do dps better than the one button

[delicate perch]

if those people could read..

[wicked shuttle]

most people wouldnt care enough to learn

and why would you

[royal zenith]

yeah it's a user issue

[turbid peak]

Would it actually be a dps increase for majority of players to swap to one button rotation?

[royal zenith]

not a feature issue

[wicked shuttle]

can get 90% performance w/ one button

[delicate perch]

that seems like a fine feature then

[royal zenith]

but Idc too much about it, slap a nerf on it

[fossil hemlock]

Well 84%, you just said so

[royal zenith]

if it keeps the crybabies happy

[jade flume]

We are the crybabies tho

[pallid bay]

majority of players suck so yeah probably

they'll keep sucking with 1button though

[delicate perch]

make it only work for a month

[wicked shuttle]

@pallid bay looks like starfire is 1.6s for my druid regardless of OBR vs not

[wanton plank]

It needs way more than a nerf, kinda like a removal and deletion from game. If it only does say 20% of simmed dps (cause that's how bad players are.) What value is it? Like, is that even pushing buttons all the time?

when mechanics are going on, players tend to do... nothing.

[pallid bay]

unless spamming 1 button makes them focus and improve on their actual gameplay

[royal zenith]

I think the "you can perform at 90%" is the button being used by people who were already doing hard content and/or are good players

[wicked shuttle]

except that is sim dps, not actually how people play. Youre comparing a robot in a simulation to real world performance

[jade flume]

Robots are bad

[vagrant cove]

Wow how much haste have you got? Mines 1.8s and im sitting on 27% haste

Jealous

[wicked shuttle]

17k or so

[pallid bay]

and you can queue instantly right?

[wicked shuttle]

yeah

can spell queue insta

[vagrant cove]

Rigged, I have 16700 haste

[pallid bay]

silly

[wicked shuttle]

OBR can spell queue the next ability

[fossil hemlock]

I mean feel free to log a real push key with one button rotation so we can see how it actually performs

[wicked shuttle]

i mean what do you describe as a "real push key"

i beat a mage and a dk in a 17

LMFAO

[pallid bay]

so if casttime>gcd*1.25 then no penalty

[wicked shuttle]

yeah

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah and that just sounds like they were giga shit

[wicked shuttle]

it's why destro lock is like only a 10% damage loss

[royal zenith]

god, the button is such good content

[wicked shuttle]

i mean theyre not the best players ive ever seen

but theyre like 3600

[royal zenith]

says enough about the playerbase

[wicked shuttle]

like if im beating them

[delicate perch]

boomkin broken and tettles boosted by OBA

[wicked shuttle]

like wat

[wanton plank]

But like, it being successful in a 17 isn't an issue to you? And with better players, do a 19? lol. That doesn't sound bad for the game? Just because better players can outperform it.

[royal zenith]

You keep wanting to blame the button not the player though

[fossil hemlock]

Are keys only about doing dps?

[jade flume]

Does the button dot mobs and shit like that

[delicate perch]

current target ya

[jade flume]

How does it play in keys

[wicked shuttle]

yeah, it unfortunately prios sunfire before moonfire

which is obnoxious

im gonna be honest

i felt like i never knew what i was pressing

i felt less aware about what was going on

it is really weird

[jade flume]

Thats kinda cool

[royal zenith]

this sounds great

will definitely try

[jade flume]

Its like a surprise gift

[wanton plank]

If you remove the portion where you need to do dps, keys become substantially easier.

[jade flume]

U never know whats coming

[royal zenith]

"tadaaa you are doing damage!!"

[glossy jungle]

I was wrong

[royal zenith]

[delicate perch]

are you scared of losing to one button

[wicked shuttle]

Hard to use instant cast globals when you don’t know what’s next

Just can’t run

[royal zenith]

well that's the whole idea of the button, to make gameplay easier and lower the bar

[merry ibex]

From the sounds of it most people will lose xD

[royal zenith]

you're describing it's exact purpose

[jade flume]

Im losing

[wanton plank]

I'm pretty sure I will. And your point? There's a reason why there are so many m+ levels, and spanning from lfr to mythic raid.

[pallid bay]

u're winning..

smite smite smite

[royal zenith]

Oh right

[gray plank]

does the belt have any catchup if you done it on one char?

[royal zenith]

you can always play healer

if you dont want to lose to the button

[jade flume]

Does it even do anything on healers

Or just dmg rotation

[wicked shuttle]

I don’t think this is its purpose. It’s supposed to be accessibility for people who otherwise couldn’t play, no? Right now idk why I’d put anything in a guide other than telling you to use the OBR

[wanton plank]

There's a reason LFR exists, that's the lowered bar.

[delicate perch]

dmg rotation

[royal zenith]

that's the effect of the feature rn yea

and I can imagine them nerfing it anyway

I'm not pro-button

[wicked shuttle]

I’d hit it with like a -40% aura or something

[pallid bay]

cant wait to tell anyone below me in dps to "just use OBR"

[wicked shuttle]

I’m interested in what parses you’re gonna get

[wanton plank]

Now Blizzard can finally delete LFR / Normal / Heroic raid. All keys below 15 (another squish.) lol. Like, it's just absurd.

[royal zenith]

stop being melodramatic

[wicked shuttle]

I was looking at mythic and it looked like you’d get around 40ish%

[royal zenith]

it doesn't help your argument

[jade flume]

People wont suddenly become goated at the game

[wicked shuttle]

Around 80% or so in heroic

[jade flume]

Bad people will remain bad

[wicked shuttle]

But obviously that is speculative numbers

[pallid bay]

i think more

just need to check out the conditionals

[fossil hemlock]

I think less

It will definitely dot the immune mobs on mug'zee

[pallid bay]

does it check for movement

[fossil hemlock]

For example

[wicked shuttle]

No

[pallid bay]

it dosnt swap targets

[fossil hemlock]

Or start dotting gally adds that your elemental is about to destroy in 2 seconds

[vital hound]

8

[wanton plank]

It won't dot if you don't target them.

[wicked shuttle]

It doesn’t target new mobs? Why tf would it dot mug adds

[livid jay]

is obr out today?

[pallid bay]

so it'll just be stuck on wrath when running?

[delicate perch]

[wicked shuttle]

You can be, yeah

[pallid bay]

gg

[wicked shuttle]

Had that happen before

[pallid bay]

thats infinite dps loss

[jade flume]

Does it show what next ability is

Or is it a secret lol

[wanton plank]

yes it does

[wicked shuttle]

It rips trees and convoke on cd

Might wanna play 1m tree 2m convoke

[pallid bay]

yeah i think thats the play

[vital hound]

omg no more cotd

lfg

[pallid bay]

i wonder if EC is better though

just cause no penalty starfires

[wicked shuttle]

EC was chill in m+ bc you got instant starfires

With WOE

[jade flume]

Man oi u might get a parse on sprocket u wanted with the button

[wicked shuttle]

Could kind of guess when you can move

[pallid bay]

[wicked shuttle]

Also it doesn’t redot during pandemic

It dots first global it falls off

So you can play around it a bit

[pallid bay]

think im on my warlock today

[jade flume]

Rip

[pallid bay]

that'll be fun comparison though cause im obv worse on it

[jade flume]

No shot you say that

[wicked shuttle]

Destro is like

[jade flume]

Warlock is ez

[wicked shuttle]

Gigabis OBR

Chaos bolt

[pallid bay]

[pallid bay]

im worse on the spec i have 50 hours on compared to the spec i have 1000?

yes shot

[jade flume]

Ye but u only need 15mins for warlock

[pallid bay]

sure

[real shard]

you need to simply complete a delve to find belt powerup or its random drop?

[wicked shuttle]

Ya just complete it

[pallid bay]

what buttons to press isnt hard but every other aspect is just worse

[wicked shuttle]

I found Destro to be very similar to moonkin

Then Aff and Demo take a lot more to learn for me

[vale pebble]

what is hard is living in a map though...

[royal zenith]

I think that specs that lose little to no dps while playing the button is also just a perfect description of what the game is rn

[wicked shuttle]

Are you just a poe main now

[pallid bay]

i get chaos bolted..

[vale pebble]

what does this mean

i have a wow guild...

[wicked shuttle]

I was jw

What’re you maining these days

[vale pebble]

whatever game i feel like playing

[jade flume]

When is poe 3 coming out

[vale pebble]

i main some game for 3 weeks

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-toilet-gif-21647392

[vale pebble]

then swap to next

[pallid bay]

he's a magus

[vale pebble]

oh u mean wow class

yea mage

[wicked shuttle]

wtf magus

When you coming back

The flock

[vale pebble]

i have

3 moonkins

in my guild

[wicked shuttle]

Lob

[vale pebble]

im just adopting the flock

ok

i will lob

bicotti and iqnious

bet tettles

[wicked shuttle]

W

[royal zenith]

Ive seen their wildcharges....

there is case to be made...

[vale pebble]

ive seen ur receits deuxerion..

[royal zenith]

I should use the one button on devoker

good call

[coarse dagger]

just got the belt how do i get the socket??

[merry ibex]

Which belt ppl take for m+?

[jade flume]

According to compendium haste or mastery gem, i guess sim angel

How much deeps is belt for the homies with 684 belt btw, anyone simmered, on st

[royal zenith]

sim angel

[vital hound]

its 691

[royal zenith]

that's ilvl sheep

not deeps

[jade flume]

Ye but if ur old belt was 684

[wanton plank]

By not having house of cards (have priory trinket) am I like missing out on 20% damage or something in m+?

[pallid bay]

no thats gameplay issue

[jade flume]

Is hoc even 20% increase when active

[round field]

Wtf

What did i do

[vital hound]

few %

not nothing but not insane

takes like 6 minutes to gettho

so might as well

[ocean palm]

Is this sim correct, that i would unequip circlet now in raid? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uKnemYGnbAqyrJ2r5bTWr1

[round field]

But my belt is embelishm..m

[jade flume]

Ye i will when im home, just gauging the hype levels

[vale pebble]

tettles said to boot u

[vital hound]

not very

[round field]

Wtf

@wicked shuttle explain

[jade flume]

Man i need to get a proper parse on 1st boss on looqd

Its holding me back on g

Buyer lusted on pull to fuck me last time

[delicate perch]

he's mad that the OBA is taking away his job of guide writing

can't make money if the guide just says press one button

[vital hound]

LOL

[round field]

I would wipe the raid

[vale pebble]

karma for clickbaiting

[delicate perch]

100%

[pallid bay]

full single target..

[jade flume]

Ofc im not a padder(unless its stix)

[rich jewel]

smh u stole our mage

[scarlet tapir]

how do u change ur belt again?

[quiet drift]

right click it

[scarlet tapir]

banger

then u go into the delves it says looking for the others?

[jade flume]

Man apparently we stole a lot of homies

But im innocent

[lucid olive]

[vital hound]

are the belt powers account wide

get bolts on one -> get it on the other

[royal zenith]

supposedly ye

[vital hound]

holy shit @delicate perch @potent cargo

[delicate perch]

ONE SUBATHON ROTATION

[royal zenith]

"Each power can be found in a specific delve, as indicated by the power's tooltip. Unlike the powers from the Overcharged Titan Console, these abilities can be triggered outside of delves. Unlocking these abilities will unlock them for your entire Warband!"

@vital hound

[vital hound]

yea just discovered that

which is lit

[royal zenith]

source: wowhead

source: unreliable...

OBR haters...

[delicate perch]

one button so insanely bis

add more spells to it

make it move my character like scripters in league

[plush obsidian]

guys is it worth dotting up the brew drops during the Ipa boss?

[lucid olive]

Noob

[dense gust]

which moonkin hero tree is more 1-button friendly, trees or moonbeam?

[lucid olive]

EC

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/bht5C.gif

[olive cloak]

I would assume Elune's Chosen

[scarlet tapir]

Whats the fastest way to get a catch-up half spark?

[delicate perch]

EC one button reclear

[vital hound]

sheeptwo gets gally tonight

[feral dust]

So, the best DPS power for balance is that random bolt. Does that mean that boomkin scales like shit?

[quiet drift]

The bolt is overtuned

[feral dust]

Yeah but for other classes stat procs are better in aoe even thought the bolt is overturned

[quiet drift]

Arent stats better for Moonkin aoe too

[lyric junco]

The haste thing sims better for my druid than the random bolt. At least for M+

[delicate perch]

😮

[scarlet tapir]

who would have thought

[delicate perch]

kinda insane actually

a ST proc? losing to stats?

[summer turtle]

I can't put a finger on why I get bored of the Balance rotation. In theory, there are procs now like other DPS specs have, so maybe I'm missing some details. Also Keeper of the Grove kind of has less ramp than Balance used to have. Is there some way I can change my thinking/perspective on the rotation and the build that would make me see it more interesting?

[feral dust]

Nope, according to wowhead the bolt is better even in aoe for moonkin according to wowhead

[lyric junco]

I mean, I'm fairly new balance but according to wowhead and IV, the bolt is better in every scenario

[delicate perch]

wwhead

[lyric junco]

Idk how good those guides are

[pseudo merlin]

Never trust Tettles

[delicate perch]

raidbots.com is the best guide you can get

if results seem odd, ping gamz

[pseudo merlin]

Don't trust Gamz either

Live in doubt

[delicate perch]

ya but ping him anyway

[feral dust]

It's either that the guides are good and balance scales shit ( will start stacking versa after a point) or the guides are wrong

[pseudo merlin]

ya good point

[jade flume]

Dreamgrove will be main recommendation in here

For guides

[feral dust]

And dreamgrove says what?

[pseudo merlin]

Dreamgrove says sim

[jade flume]

The recommended effects for the belt currently is
Charged Bolts icon
Charged Bolts
(ST damage proc) for raid and ST encounters, and
Spark Burst icon
Spark Burst
(haste) for M+.

[lyric junco]

Weird, Dreamgrove is saying "Ravec is boosted" for me

[quiet drift]

There is nothing to current iteration Moonkin

[pseudo merlin]

Big words from the guy who lost to me in dps on every boss

💀

[quiet drift]

You just cast Wrath and spend AP

Nothing else

[jade flume]

This is copied from dreamgrove compendium

[lyric junco]

Hey I never said I wasn't boosted

[pseudo merlin]

"Oh I still had my guardian gear on!"

[lyric junco]

I was wearing a pacemaker KEKW

[pseudo merlin]

damn my vault was actually good

[lucid olive]

I swear

[jade flume]

Same, socklet

[lucid olive]

One of these days...

[pseudo merlin]

You don't even need to ping him

You just talk about pinging him and somehow he knows

Crazy

[delicate perch]

[delicate perch]

rent free

[lucid olive]

Yesterday woke up and saw people talk about "someone said the sims the pins are based on is wrong" and they didn't ping me about it

Any other day get pinged for the most useless shit

[delicate perch]

[pseudo merlin]

Why is Faerin Lothar telling me to go to the Arathi Highlands @lucid olive

[scenic mist]

Tbf you wrote a message like 2 lines after this

[lucid olive]

@gamz how do I wipe my ass @gamz what's the correct ratio of milk to coffee in my latte @gamz why is @vital hound being dumb

[pseudo merlin]

I can answer that last one

[vital hound]

???/

what the fuck

[pseudo merlin]

NZ's innit

[lucid olive]

Yeah was first thing I saw when I woke up, but had to scroll up for 5 minutes to see the context

[feral dust]

According to dreamgrove the mastery proc might be better

[delicate perch]

no one can

[vital hound]

wr?

[pseudo merlin]

Fucking OCEs

[royal zenith]

can you give me the exact difference in numbers between the One Button and human-like sim @lucid olive

preferably with a document outlining exactly every step you took

I need to fact-check every move

[delicate perch]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[lucid olive]

I watched Tettles video and that's about it

[jade flume]

Ye depends on your stats probably, makes sense

[pseudo merlin]

Aller au message

[scenic mist]

There was no context lmao

[scenic mist]

Stop the count Ravec

STOP THE COUNT

[pseudo merlin]

Jokes on you. I don't even know how to count.

[scenic mist]

Send invite to your BALD tag discord pls

[lucid olive]

Context was sims were bugged for a bit when brought over from mimiron and then wasn't bugged after

Gg

[pseudo merlin]

No

Bald is only for the real ones

[royal zenith]

(the deranged)

[pseudo merlin]

And Thyme, but he prefers this stupid oldschool video game

[vital hound]

arent you being mentally boomed by a french

[scenic mist]

No but I mean tytherius just said this out of the blue
I was about to tag you and then you sent your oab pic

[lucid olive]

Bet

[pseudo merlin]

:

[scenic mist]

I take this as an absolute win

[vital hound]

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/b1GKb.gif

[pseudo merlin]

I legit have no idea how to start this belt quest. Why didn't they force a quest on me upon logging in

This game is getting way too elitist

[lucid olive]

Yeah good thing they added the button

[scenic mist]

Talk to Brann

[pseudo merlin]

thx

[scenic mist]

Why am I your personal Questie ?

[vital hound]

🇫🇷

[pseudo merlin]

je ne sais pas

it's in your blood I guess

[vital hound]

baguette

bitch

[scenic mist]

I dig this

[pseudo merlin]

also

I just realised

[delicate perch]

doing a one button key

surely I top dmg

[pseudo merlin]

My passport says "Je Maintiendrai"

I might be French also, idk what this shit is

[scenic mist]

This is Dutch

I know

[pseudo merlin]

That's French

[scenic mist]

My ex had it

[vital hound]

i was gonna

[pseudo merlin]

Nobody in my country knows what those words mean

[vital hound]

but its a sale now

so gg

[scenic mist]

Yeah cause the Dutch have no personality

[pseudo merlin]

oof

[scenic mist]

Thought you were Romanian tho

[pseudo merlin]

now what? should I get him his hat back?

[lucid olive]

Nah burn his hat off

[pseudo merlin]

@scenic mist hello

[lucid olive]

Do you think Brann sockets his helmet

[scenic mist]

I lied

It’s Dagran

[pseudo merlin]

Brann still has a Diremaul enchant on his helmet

[lucid olive]

Surely he has gotten enough delve slots in his vault that he started buying the socket item

[pseudo merlin]

And you're wondering why people hate the French

[vital hound]

no wonders this

we

just think its funny

that they tilt ya

french stinky and silly

[pseudo merlin]

yup

You ever put French cheese in one of those huge American refrigerators?

Doesn't matter how much freedom your fridge has, it'l stink it all up in a second

[scenic mist]

Cause you’re an animal

Cheese goes into a specific container

Ffs

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah that container is called a fridge

[scenic mist]

Ever heard of this great thing called a Tupperware ?

[pallid bay]

[vital hound]

ever heard of a cheese fridge

[pseudo merlin]

No shot they gave dsune even more power

it's over for anyone trying to parse

[pseudo merlin]

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/b6HA2MAMzOh.gif

[wanton plank]

wait , how do you get to this?

I didn't realize you could customize it

[indigo fjord]

Hey all, can i get some quick clarification as i've heard a few different opinions on openers for m+ so not quite understanding the proper rot and my dmg sucks (dont have logs)
Moonfiring while tanks gather - then sunfiring when targets are grouped

1. Heres where im confused, do we cast two wraths and then go into FoE, only to go into CA and be in state anyway...or is the wraths a waste??
2. Are we popping FoE, CA and WoE together or completely separate?
   any help is much appreciated

[royal zenith]

[pallid bay]

apparently you cant

[wanton plank]

oh,

[pseudo merlin]

You double wrath at points where you can before getting into combat, so you can enter CA with 2 dreamstate stacks, alternatively before CA (in combat) to rotate through sunder but some people debate if this is worth it.

You FOE the GCD before CA and otherwise press FOE and WOE off cd.

[wanton plank]

I thought you could unselect abilities....

and have it not use some

[scenic mist]

Dont enter éclipse before CA, you’d waste your 2 Nature’s Grace stacks
FoE the gcd before CA if you can
WoE inside CA if you can, but after spending the 2 NG stacks

Other than the very beginning of a dung, FoE and WoE should basically be sent on cd

[wanton plank]

(for whatever reason.)

[indigo fjord]

Sorry, not understanding - double wrath before the next pull or as in double wrath is prio before spreading our dots?
Which Ashitaka is saying thats a waste if im understanding correctly??

sorry brains abit numb

[pallid bay]

that was the expected outcome but no work

[pseudo merlin]

The value of double wrathing out of combat is that you go into eclipse while retaining your 2 dreamstate stacks, it's unrelated to CA just explaining the situation where you might see people wrath

Otherwise yes its moonfires into sunfire when everythings gathered up and then into FOE>CA>spend dreamstate>WOE

[indigo fjord]

Ok nws tyvm

[pseudo merlin]

And I've seen both sides argued: saving dreamstate for CA being more valuable and entering eclipse so you build up towards the next sundered filament being more valuable

I'm not sure what the correct answer is

[pseudo merlin]

this is assuming you can't double wrath out of combat

[wanton plank]

what does FOE stand for?

[sudden flame]

What does dn stand for?

[jade flume]

Double negative

[pseudo merlin]

domnule

[sudden flame]

[indigo fjord]

aweomse, tyvm Ravec and Ash!

[jade flume]

Np

[signal temple]

[pseudo merlin]

is this game ok

fungal folly isnt even overcharged, why is the quest complete marker here

[royal zenith]

[pseudo merlin]

say it with your chest

overcharged consoles only appear in overcharged delves

imagine if we had a ptr for these things

[urban vector]

@.arctic @.arctic it may have glitched or not make sense because one of the belt features is here? I think u have to do fungal for the haste proc.

[pseudo merlin]

I suppose

[urban vector]

Either way, agreed not seeming to be clever.

Beta games amirite

[pseudo merlin]

People are going to be running the whole delve only to find out that they didn't need to be there

[urban vector]

Oh no. Do you not have to?

[pseudo merlin]

well not for completing the initial quest atleast

you just need to access the console

[urban vector]

Ah yes, I understand for the haste proc u have to tho?

[pseudo merlin]

I haven't checked what drops where yet, so I'll take your word for it

but it probably doesn't drop before you have acquired the belt?

[urban vector]

Yeh no worries, we discussed in resto chat i think

I would assume not

Wouldn't make logic

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah so you would be running it for nothing in that case

[urban vector]

Yeah true. Damn hope everyone in here has a relatively straightforward experience with it!

[rare ember]

I just want to know what is best that i can grind that and than never ever have to do delves again xD

[fossil hemlock]

Isn't Fungal Folly one of the overcharged ones?

Or does it rotate?

[pseudo merlin]

no

[fossil hemlock]

I genuinely have no idea

[pseudo merlin]

same

but im in fungal folly and it's not overcharged

[pseudo merlin]

pins

[spiral star]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1z4Wzx51b49bRVcTJkKe9o

mdt sim for floodgate, it says i should drop one duskthread in m+?

[pseudo merlin]

yo what

[pseudo merlin]

That's certainly very interesting

[spiral star]

nvm it does not

i forgot i have the boots on

[pseudo merlin]

100 int 302 mastery vs 280 haste and 500 vers

oh so you do

[spiral star]

atleast you're as blind as me

[pseudo merlin]

my mind has blocked out boots as an option

we're not all as lucky to get sprocket cape

[spiral star]

true

[unique mirage]

How are you guys simming for the belt? What settings, I mean?

[plush prairie]

holy moly vault

[jade flume]

Ez socklet

[plush prairie]

real

dropped ilvl because circlet sims higher still

[median anchor]

Anyone have this graphical glitch happen to them?

[scarlet tapir]

i did on my old pc when my graphics card was dying

...

gl

[lunar viper]

No point in learning balance anymore when the one button can make you top DPS with zero effort.

[pseudo merlin]

Excellent take

Anything else?

[jade flume]

Ill never let a button beat me in deeps

[median anchor]

@scarlet tapir Idk, it only started happening after this patch

[lunar viper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax01863ik8U

Yeah, top DPS in a +17

[plush prairie]

damn you losing to the 1 button rotation + delay between casts too damn

[pseudo merlin]

Just joining a discord so you can blurt out the dumbest one liner ever

What are you doing

[lunar viper]

Pointing out legitimate problems with the game that Blizzard has created

[pseudo merlin]

What problem?

being 10-20% worse than people with functioning fingers with very little effort?

[delicate perch]

yea top dps in a 17 (the other dps are bad)

[pseudo merlin]

What the fuck are you yapping about

[quiet drift]

Seems more an attitude problem

[plush prairie]

nah surely not?!?!

boomie just broken one button rotation clearly

[delicate perch]

true...

[lunar viper]

One button GCD penalty needs to be increased or given a damage penalty, definitely

[pseudo merlin]

Not evening mentioning that you have to press cds

Utility and defensives not used

[pseudo merlin]

Already has, again, what are you yapping about

[delicate perch]

ya I did a rando 12 with one button

[pseudo merlin]

You have no idea what you're talking about

[delicate perch]

it defs trolls sometimes

[plush prairie]

so you mean to tell me the one button rotation doesn't just play the game for me? ggs needs buffed

[pseudo merlin]

It sounds to me like you're just super bad at the game and you're mad that other people are beating you while pressing 1 button

😂

[lunar viper]

Ok put all of them on a macro since they're off GCD anyway. That's two buttons. Interrupt is three buttons. Only utility balance uses is vortex, so that's four buttons.

[quiet drift]

It literally has a 25% gcd penalty

[plush prairie]

imagine using interrupts and cds

[unique mirage]

How are you guys simming for the belt? What settings, fight style, etc?

[pseudo merlin]

This guy has a 25% brain deficiency

Perfect match for the 1 button

[quiet drift]

You will never get beat by it if you know ur class

[lunar viper]

No I simply enjoy balance and do not like the future where everyone is bullied by other players into using one button instead of learning their class at their pace

[pseudo merlin]

wait, am I going to try dastardly duos with 1 button

[pseudo merlin]

Now that's a fair take that I can respect

But all that yapping before this was crazy

[plush prairie]

When doing the belt stuff do we need to do it on tier11 or can we just go in a tier1 and just blast it

[pseudo merlin]

A lot of people are indeed so bad at the game that there will be without a doubt, situations where your raid leader tells you t o just stop trying and go 1 button instead

That's unfortunate

[lunar viper]

If the one button was something like 25-30% worse then it would let people contribute and give them something to clearly work towards. The -13% that a lot of specs have with one button is lunacy.

[jade flume]

My gm already told me to go 1 button gg

[craggy sonnet]

Just pointing out that they in fact depleted that key

[pseudo merlin]

We're going full 1 button hall of fame next patch

[plush prairie]

lmfao

[jade flume]

Wouldve timed with 5x1buttone

[craggy sonnet]

Surely

[lunar viper]

Yeah everyone's ST damage was a bit sad wasn't it

[pseudo merlin]

I think 13% is absolutely massive. But in the context of being a casual heroic guild where DPS literally doesn't matter because you outgear the DPS checks before you even clear normal mode, yeah I could see that being problematic for sure.

But like

I don't know if that weighs up against the positives

[jade flume]

I think the 1 batton thing is cringe af tho and one of the dumbest things ive seen them implement though

[pseudo merlin]

First of all the accessibility value of this is so good

Second, it's going to relieve so much pressure from people in some content

[jade flume]

Reminds me of aim assist cringe that plagues battle royale

[pseudo merlin]

It's going to allow me to do weekly keys without having an aneurysm

[craggy sonnet]

I guess it's a bit weird that obr has a gcd penalty only and not also a haste penalty

[pseudo merlin]

I think it's pretty good

[craggy sonnet]

Which makes it very much favor long ass casting specs

[delicate perch]

bro imagine (I'm using it now)

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah wouldn't it also be really good for specs like assa or feral

They're pooling anyway

For outlaw it's probably like -80% dps

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah people are so bad lmao (I'm also using it)

[jade flume]

Im using it on disc(we died)

[plush prairie]

lmfao nah it's broken

literally 1 button in a 17 top dps

[pseudo merlin]

holy shit the 1 button thing even puts you in moonkin form

Already gaining dps

[lunar viper]

I also think some people are going to quit the game when they realize they are so bad that they don't know how to do better than the one button

[delicate perch]

good

[pseudo merlin]

they wont

bro

all it does it spam sunfire

[delicate perch]

ya if you swap to new target it wants sunfire on it

[pseudo merlin]

It's ASP capping by like

overcapping by 100

spamming sunfires

ignoring moonfire

ignoring eclipse

ignoring SF

game is ruined

why would I learn moonin

[plush prairie]

Do I need to do tier 11 delve for the belt or can I do tier 1

[pseudo merlin]

The people so bad at the game that they would be beaten by the 1 button thing wouldn't posses the ability to self reflect to a degree where they would even notice in the first place

[pseudo merlin]

everything on 1s

[plush prairie]

sweet

[pseudo merlin]

Honestly the worst part of this is that it's actually super finger straining and uncomfortable to just spam 1 button over and over

Like I couldnt do this for more than 10 minutes

maybe id need to replace my entire actionbar with it and just press random keybinds

[jade flume]

Tbh the worst part is that it exists

But that can be 2nd worst

[crisp badger]

thought it was possible to just hold it down, not that that is much better

[pseudo merlin]

ah is it?

i didnt actually try

[crisp badger]

idk, haven't logged on today yet (eu here)

but heard from some na frens

[lunar viper]

Replace your entire action bar with one button and play the piano buddy. The future is now.

[pseudo merlin]

nah doesnt work

[crisp badger]

rip

[plush prairie]

tbf it does have it's benefits to learning a spec for the first time maybe, or having disabilities

which one of those answers seems to be every pug I join so maybe now they can do damage who knows

[lunar viper]

Ok hear me out. What if the one button had an optional priority list feature where it showed you what it was going to press next.

So you can follow along.

[plush prairie]

There's an option to highlight recommended buttons

[crisp badger]

im just happy that it'll be easier to pug low keys on new alts

[crisp badger]

i don't really see it ever helpign with learning the spec

[plush prairie]

if a spec like ret or bm is too hard

they can just turn it on

[quiet drift]

Rotation assist is for learning

[plush prairie]

and see what it's doing

[lunar viper]

BM is fun though

[crisp badger]

learning the spec is 2 parts, theory and muscle memory for your rotations, it doesn't help with either

[quiet drift]

One button is for people who dont care/cant

[lunar viper]

And takes like 30 minutes to learn

[plush prairie]

bm is too hard for 95% of bms that play it

[crisp badger]

seeing what buttons are being pressed doesn't help you understand why you should press them, you need to reeeaaaaad

[plush prairie]

What if they can't read

[crisp badger]

then it's up to the gods

[plush prairie]

natural selection

[lunar viper]

Which I like because it means I keep getting pink and orange parses even though I'm not even good

[plush prairie]

true and real tho

[pseudo merlin]

who designed this

[plush prairie]

but imagine you played a hard spec and people always struggle

[pseudo merlin]

why is the main mechanic in this stupid mini game that your tank purposely takes everything out of circles

[plush prairie]

so you get good parses anyway

[pseudo merlin]

hekili?

isn't that literally what they implemented

[jade flume]

Hekili requires u to know what you are actually pressing

You couldnt play it blind

[pseudo merlin]

Didn't this patch bring both 1 button and rotation helper?

The latter being what Errol suggested

[royal zenith]

me

[lunar viper]

I'm not familiar with hekili, what is it? Like the cooldown manager?

[jade flume]

Tbh i only heard about 1 batton so idk, maybe it did

[royal zenith]

it's rotation helper

a *

[livid jay]

Yes

[royal zenith]

but it shows icons and the order to press instead of highlighting your key to press

hekili that is

[lunar viper]

Oh neat!

[pseudo merlin]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/hekili

[lunar viper]

That might help with spriest. I really suck with it.

[pseudo merlin]

they just put this into the game as blizzard default

[pallid bay]

just use the button

[lunar viper]

THIS IS WHAT I SAID I DIDN'T WANT TO HAPPEN

[jade flume]

Do not use the button

[lunar viper]

AAAAAAHHHH

[pseudo merlin]

Either be bad and accept it, play 1 button

Or stop being bad

Balanced as all things should be

🙏

[plush prairie]

I don't think it's an issue

It clearly is not the "optimal" way and you'll do more without it, and the people using it clearly are bad that they need it and they do more dps than they would normally so benefits you even more

[lunar viper]

TBH we do have half grey parsers in my mythic guild

It might actually make a difference sad to say

[pallid bay]

thats not sad

[quiet drift]

[pallid bay]

if you're grey parsing

[livid jay]

What's your prog?

[royal zenith]

why would you want to grief your team

[lunar viper]

4/8, just started Sprocket

[quiet drift]

OBR wont fix CD mismanagment,dying or movement

[royal zenith]

by deliberately playing bad

[quiet drift]

So plenty of areas to work on

[royal zenith]

[pallid bay]

like if you're consistently grey parsing

you should probably improve your gameplay

[lunar viper]

4/8 was my season goal actually as this is my first season playing the game

Super happy with it

[royal zenith]

congrats

[quiet drift]

Gz

[livid jay]

Gz!!

Much more than I did in my first season

[pallid bay]

you're doing something so wrong that people who were dead for a whole minute performed better than you

[lunar viper]

I'm unsure how much more will be required to get from 4/8 to CE next tier or if it makes sense to go for that. I like playing my warrior and do better on warrior, but they really really really want a priest.

[pallid bay]

i dont want to be that guy but it dosnt sound like your guild will get CE

[jade flume]

What if its not my fault im grey parsing(bad rng)

[lunar viper]

No they won't

[pseudo merlin]

Also 4/8m guilds at this point in time should not be telling anyone to go play SP

nothing good will come of that

[pallid bay]

so catering to their needs seems a bit silly if the goal is CE

[pseudo merlin]

There's no scenario in which that would be worth it

[livid jay]

Yea the players in 4/8 guilds atm are probably not so good that they could easily just swap

[lunar viper]

But I feel like I'm not super far away from contributing to a low CE guild on my best classes (warrior, hunter, druid). It's just the priest that I have smooth brain syndrome on.

[livid jay]

(no offense, I wouldn't be able to do it either)

[pseudo merlin]

SP is one of the harder specs

[lunar viper]

Just need to get a bit better and apply to a bunch until one tries me out

[livid jay]

I mean, 4/8 now could mean 6/8 end of the raid tier

And that's only 2 away from CE

So yes

Within reach for you

[lunar viper]

Fair enough

[jade flume]

Sp is free

[lunar viper]

Sprocket is rough though oh my goodness

"We will wipe if anyone does this wrong" of Stix but turned up to 11

[livid jay]

It's very scripted once people stop randomly standing on bombs or running through them and know blue from red

[lunar viper]

You're just a talented gamer my guy what can I say

[jade flume]

Sprocket is honestly harder mechanically than most bosses this tier

[jade flume]

No im just dumb

[pseudo merlin]

probably

Although I'm not sure if that's true since you literally skip all the mechanics now

[livid jay]

The only real hard part on sprocket is not dying on tight beam + drag overlap xD

[livid jay]

U still have to play the first like 75-80% of the fight

Only the second knock and the fuckery after that doesn't happen anymore

[pseudo merlin]

yeah but all you have to do is swap sides and bait drills

[plush prairie]

I have mythic raided 1 time and it was aberrus in df and I had green and grey parses on my rogue first ever time myth raiding

then I get invited to myth raid this season and I get green parses and 1 purple

people mythic raiding just hacking dps or something because impossible

[lunar viper]

I know it's crazy right

[jade flume]

A lot depends on the guild you are in

Some bosses you will never compete on unless u have competitive kill speed

[plush prairie]

good point

tbf as long as the boss is dead that is all i'm bothered about lmfao

[jade flume]

Sometimes when we would have a really fast kill on something we would have like 6 rank 1 parses or something

Just because we skipped a phase or something

[plush prairie]

but is the kill not fast because you have good dps tho

like we don't have a fast kill because we have bad dps type thing

[jade flume]

Yeah, also maybe good healers so u can 1 or 2 heal. But its not dependent on 1 person

You could be good but have slow kill when rest of the group doesnt pull their weight

[plush prairie]

think we had like 4 healers for mugzee

[jade flume]

Theres more than just skill when it comes to parsing well, but that is also a big factor for sure

[plush prairie]

tbf never really looked at it from that pov, normally just sit there and do just dps in heroic

and hope my group is zerg for high parses

[dapper ingot]

is it normal that islering is still beating crafted 681 for m+ spec?

[plush prairie]

yes

mine is the same

[dapper ingot]

because ive seen topDruids not playing isle ring anymore

[plush prairie]

just depends on the sim

if your sim tells you to change

[dapper ingot]

so it does happen in BiS gear then i suppose

[plush prairie]

I have crafted ring that jastor just took over

[dapper ingot]

i just started 2 weeks ago and im only 678 ilvl

[jade flume]

Theres a chance some people swap to normal ring even if it sims less

If its very close in dps then they could for stamina

[plush prairie]

Oh

My sim showed jastor + circlet like 10k increase, but crafted and jastor being like 800 dps increase

[dapper ingot]

well mine was ~0,5% for jastor+circlet

[jade flume]

I mean, for some it is a gain for m+ as far as i know. I havent done any m+ sims so i cant say exactly when that happens

[dapper ingot]

which is not really "close in dps"

[jade flume]

Yeah id just keep circlet then

If it was something minimal like 2k dps then it wouldnt matter essentialy

[dapper ingot]

ye i agree

[plush prairie]

What is the normal sim for m+?

[dapper ingot]

i mean you either MDT sim

[jade flume]

People do mdt sim, i think compendium has some info about it

[dapper ingot]

or do both ST and AOE sim

[jade flume]

I dont do m+ so i dont sim it though

[pseudo merlin]

sim MDT

[dapper ingot]

afaik importfunction from MDT is currently broken and isnt accurate

also not all APLs are optimized for MDT

but if owl is optimized, i guess you can sim MDT

[pseudo merlin]

yes

sim mdt

[plush prairie]

okay I replace circlet in m+ then

[pseudo merlin]

anyone know how to leave dastardly while its in progress

[jade flume]

Ye seems like it

[plush prairie]

good job you guys mentioned it

I just simmed 1t 5m all the time for sims

should use mdt more often

[pseudo merlin]

which is still fine tbh

The downside of MDT is that you need to be very dilligent about it

[pallid bay]

nice cope

[pseudo merlin]

It's something you do on a per dungeon/route basis so it might vary a lot

[plush prairie]

oh

I mean realistically at this point that i'm at

[jade flume]

[plush prairie]

even if I drop 100k dps by not taking circlet

surely it wont matter that much

compared to raid

[dapper ingot]

why would 100k dps not matter lol

[plush prairie]

because i'm not doing 20s

[pallid bay]

its kinda funny how there isnt like better builds for players that arent as good

[plush prairie]

where 100k would matter

[pallid bay]

people will sim talent points and make a 0.5% dps decision when they'd gain 5% from picking the other one simply cause it makes their gameplay easier

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah but if 100k doesn't matter there's also no reason to sim MDT right

For some specs 1t5m is so close to MDT that the difference doesn't matter anywhere other than a scenario where you know you're going to benefit from optimising 1k more dps out of your route

It's not like 1t5m is a bad or "good enough" lazy choice, gearing is just super similar between damage profiles

[plush prairie]

True but the pic I sent was 20k difference doing mdt, when I done the 1t 5m it was like 10k dps increase too so 30k difference between the sims

let me rephrase reading it back

[craggy sonnet]

how much worse did the charged bolts belt thing sim?

[plush prairie]

Jastor + crafted was 20k increase in mdt, in the 1t 5m, circlet + jastor was 10k increase

[plush prairie]

uh

[craggy sonnet]

cant sim myself rn

[plush prairie]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jwDJ7MWQYyU4yZA8Gn3WvP

didn't realise I had it selected ngl

so even less then

[craggy sonnet]

ohhh

i was like where is it

but its what you have equipped

so arguably its better then, right? since its quite a bit more boss dam

[rich jewel]

Mmmhm

[delicate perch]

need raidbots to have a log addition where it sims the talents with your log casts

[plush prairie]

Yeah circlet seems better after noticing that

[craggy sonnet]

no i meant the belt thing

circlet diff is marginal

so more stam is a valid consideration

[plush prairie]

I'm slighly lost im ngl lmfao

[craggy sonnet]

why?

circlet is simming worse for you

[plush prairie]

Yeah basically 1.9k worse without belt

[craggy sonnet]

i was talking about the belt ST bolt thing

and that is very marginally behind the haste proc for you

[plush prairie]

Oh right yeah

[craggy sonnet]

so i would likely prefer that

[pseudo merlin]

Leaning into shit gameplay, I like it

Optimise being suboptimal

[keen finch]

are we swapping for 2x focusing lens now that we swapped to the new belt instead of 2x duskthread

[leaden birch]

whatever sims higher I guess

[quiet drift]

Why would the new belt necessitate focusing lens

[pallid bay]

you wouldnt get it

[keen finch]

cause the only crafted items left on bis gear are wrist and neck and you cant put duskthread on neck my man

[pseudo merlin]

what

Please don't use bis lists

"my man"

You are very misguided

[keen finch]

well it sims highest too 😂

[orchid ember]

You can craft on other slots....

[pseudo merlin]

I'm not trusting your ability to be able to sim properly

But roll with it if you think it's right

Embels aren't big anyway

[lunar viper]

What a hopelessly pretentious thing to say. Get over yourself.

[pseudo merlin]

Based on the cocky attitude and the insistence on doing things that are not recommended, I think that's a very appropriate response

Read more than just one sentence

[pseudo merlin]

Like it's a direct response to this, you should really consider context before you say silly things like this.

[lunar viper]

Anooothher turtle has made it to the waaaaterrr!

[formal crest]

[lunar viper]

He kinda cute tho

[pseudo merlin]

🐢

[round field]

Bald

[pseudo merlin]

Bald

[pallid bay]

i dont trust anyone here to create a bis sim, yet alone myself

[pseudo merlin]

Idk I just copy that dsune guy

[jade flume]

Sim dsune-tarrenmill

[pallid bay]

im on draenor man

[jade flume]

Damn

[pallid bay]

honestly havnt simmed myself since prog

i just vibegear

stamina gem for movement speed

[jade flume]

I need to swap out my mana gem

If i dont forget

[pseudo merlin]

movement speed bis