and you have to like hard focus it or something
#balance
royal zenith
You would need a macro for it
pseudo merlin
yikes
pseudo merlin
I wonder what the people who actually make trinkets like that are thinking
cedar seal
no everything besides one hand weapon - waist and neck are 684. thats why i asked what do i need to craft then when i switch the waist 🙂
pseudo merlin
ig
royal zenith
you just cook something funny, who cares
you also have to aim the trinket from vexie
which is cringe
but it does decent damage
pseudo merlin
no everything besides one hand weapon - waist and neck are 684. thats why i aske...
Sim cloak and wrists then
I'd go wrists, leaving the cloak slot open for the rare sprocket belt maybe
banger effect
rugged bridge
Bro leaves 3.3k main in notes, was not 3.3k whatsoever
pallid bay
eager raft
but it does decent damage
Can u invite me to ur guild discord server
orchid ember
Bro leaves 3.3k main in notes, was not 3.3k whatsoever
that sunfire damage is a thing to behold
pseudo merlin
playing stellar flare is a power move
orchid ember
It's something
royal zenith
Can u invite me to ur guild discord server
no
vagrant cove
Any clue how long servers will be down for, trying to work out if im going to sleep or staying up to open my vault
pseudo merlin
Dear NA players, thanks for beta testing for us
vagrant cove
Thankyou very much
vagrant cove
Dear NA players, thanks for beta testing for us
I love being aussie, get so many headstarts being so far into the future
pseudo merlin
💪
rich jewel
<:CAUGHT:1282096984097947718>
Could argue they watch the most videos even !
eager raft
are any of ur guild members in here
pseudo merlin
you don't pay his sub
pallid bay
Could argue they watch the most videos even !
Me when I watch the competition cause they got there before us
eager raft
Me when I watch the competition cause they got there before us
me when I’m in a video guild
pallid bay
scenic mist
I’m beating the video guild allegations next tier
and your RL is beating you right after
sullen stone
bruh my dumbass crafted a 681 belt on my boomy last week completely forgetting about the new one we get today 
winged barn
What ilvl does the belt start at?
pseudo merlin
rip 4k gold
white flint
is somewhere a list that associate delves with powers? like which ones we really need to run
white flint
https://discord.com/channels/114145367322394624/121880895211831302/1384218982474...
thanks, but i meant which delve gives which power
sudden flame
wowhead probably has a guide on that somewhere
dry compass
I don't think they do actually
We know what delves are eligible to be overcharged but I don't think we will know which ones actually are until servers go up?
I haven't seen one at least
But iirc the disc empowerment stuff is a questline so the answer is just do the questline
signal temple
So just log in, check vault, go get belt, find the Delve with the effect you want, gg?
sudden pawn
ya its extremely easy u can do it all on t1 including getting ur powers
signal temple
Will the same power be available in the same Delve across all your characters or is it random?
Because I think all of my characters need Charged Bolt
sudden pawn
the powers are account wide
once u pick it up once, ur alts have access
all you need to do on ur alts is get the belt and ilvl increase
signal temple
Ah, that's nice
feral dust
So spark charge in all situations for moonkin? If so, doesn't that mean that we scale like shit with stats?
sudden pawn
no
and the pin doesnt even say using charged bolt for all situations
it just means that one is tuned high
orchid fjord
When pulls are staggered and another pack is brought in while the previous pack is half health, sometimes I’ll pull agro on a few of the new mobs. How do your deal with staggered pulls?
When the starfall that’s still rolling, grabs agro on mobs that are introduced to the pull.
I usually use shadowmeld when I can if this happens. And try and keep enough distance for the mobs to not run up and melee me. But I wonder if there’s a better way to deal with this
lofty depot
When pulls are staggered and another pack is brought in while the previous pack ...
Tell ur tank to press their buttons
sudden pawn
meld or vortex if u can and it doesnt mess up the pull, drag them thru ur tank
and that
orchid fjord
Alright
lofty depot
If they're gonna pull another set why rnt they holding aggro on said set
Tell that rat to go pull some braincells
flint stratus
hey guys can someone help me with opener spells? im noob
orchid fjord
Hoping for the day my tank moves beyond some of the awkward staggered pulls
lofty depot
hey guys can someone help me with opener spells? im noob
Its in the compendium
What's confusing
sudden pawn
1 button rotation out today ur all good
lofty depot
So true
flint stratus
im checking logs and i often see two starsurges before convoke, yet what i've seen on wowhead i should be casting 3. so i tried that and sometimes i get two and sometimes if i get lucky i can squeze the third one..
so opener should be prepull before 3 seconds two wraths, one starfire, dots, FoN, CA and 3 surges right
flint stratus
yes for st
wise hawk
anyone know when/where tettles got the numbers for the assist stuff in his vid? they seem to be really off in some situations
eager raft
Made em up
pseudo merlin
typical tettles smh
wise hawk
Made em up
classic
fiery harness
server up yet?
pseudo merlin
yes
grizzled shoal
NA is down for like another 5hrs but EU is up yes
steep comet
Heyo, Just picking up balance after a long while, have some rotation questions [elunes chosen]:
- When an eclipse is running out, do I wait for it to run out fully before sending 2 wraths again, or can I "precast" a wrath so the cast finishes just after the eclipse is done, so I quick go into lunar eclipse asap? Does it matter?
- When I'm about to incarn, do I go into an eclipse first and then incarn? Does Sundered Firmament gain benefits from both the initial eclipse and the incarn eclipses?
eager raft
Heyo, Just picking up balance after a long while, have some rotation questions [...
- You want to start casting the spell before the eclipse ends. That way you begin the next eclipse with a stack of natures grace
- Yes it will get you an extra sundered firmament if sundered is ready, however I think it’s better not to, so that you can start the Incarn with 2 natures grace stacks
steep comet
1. You want to start casting the spell before the eclipse ends. That way you beg...
Awesome, thanks for the help!
pseudo merlin
That shit has an ICD? lame..
royal zenith
did you finally wake up..
pseudo merlin
stop being rude I'm playing chimken for like 1 week
royal zenith
I need to in your case!!
pseudo merlin
1. You want to start casting the spell before the eclipse ends. That way you beg...
wdym if sundered is ready
leaden birch
i have done 0 research into this new belt
pseudo merlin
As in if the next eclipe procs sundered, go eclipse real quick because the insta overwriting with CA will therefore cause you to cheat out an extra sunder after CA?
pseudo merlin
i have done 0 research into this new belt
just copy whatever this guy does
that's what I always do
🤓
pseudo merlin
Yeah the item level right
leaden birch
what about them powers
golden belfry
Specific delves give different discs
pseudo merlin
shruggers
leaden birch
damn, so I actually need to pay attn to which delve is overcharged
until I get the right shit
golden belfry
Nah just do the quest to get it and hover over the one you want
quiet drift
just copy whatever this guy does
Heard that guy is gonna be using the 1 button rotation
Is that the play
golden belfry
Should tell you where to go
quiet drift
@pallid bay 
pseudo merlin
Heard that guy is gonna be using the 1 button rotation
Has to be
drifting nova
anyone know when/where tettles got the numbers for the assist stuff in his vid? ...
read the moon runes
sudden flame
anyone know when/where tettles got the numbers for the assist stuff in his vid? ...
He simmed them using the rotations assist apl then with the 25% gcd penalty
obviously some of the rotations apl's are just drastically worse than others
eager raft
wdym if sundered is ready
if ur next eclipse entry will give a sundered then youll get that 1 plus another from pressing ca
sudden flame
and the 25% gcd affects some classes more than tothers
royal zenith
Surely people are not worried about specific numbers in regards to the button
rather have APL crafters* spend their time focusing on the spec they support
wise hawk
He simmed them using the rotations assist apl then with the 25% gcd penalty
yeah that's what i figured. I'm more curious about the discrpency between, for example, the numbers he got for assa rogue and then the assa rogue mods doing the same work and getting a vastly diff number
pseudo merlin
I just timed a 12 workshop with a full group of pozzo'depleto
teal minnow
I just timed a 12 workshop with a full group of pozzo'depleto
By choice?!
lucid olive
At gunpoint, surely
lime blade
Anyone knows how much shards t1 delves give?
pseudo merlin
By choice?!
I like living on the edge
pseudo merlin
At gunpoint, surely
is this good for 667 
stone ledge
really depends on what dungeon
placid olive
is this good for 667 <:happybear:555713201879253023>
Yeha that’s about on par. I do around 6mil in mech but haven’t done it on a 12 in a while.
drifting nova
is this good for 667 <:happybear:555713201879253023>
try copying that shrek one above you
pseudo merlin
idk evokers are disgusting
drifting nova
aug has always been dead to me
I play in pisslow
think I saw like 4 the entirety of df
seeing big numbers was nice atleast
lucid olive
Blizzard makes the game catering to people like Kekkers and all he does is talk shit about them gg
jade flume
that's what I always do
its a bookmark on my browser
sullen stone
early server being up is a rare W
teal minnow
I like living on the edge
I mean what's a weekly no levers without some threat of it being a true no levers
sullen stone
pull the lever kronk
sudden pawn
lol simmed the belt and it was 300k worse pins lying
subtle sail
lol simmed the belt and it was 300k worse pins lying
yeah its like this for all my guys ive tried, I think its bugged
sudden pawn
ya i know i was trying to just stir the pot
subtle sail
or all the content/TC guys got fed the same incorrect info
sudden pawn
and trigger someone
subtle sail
either equally as likely
pseudo merlin
Nah I think Gamz is just playing us all for fools
sudden pawn
kyrian 2.0 great
sudden pawn
ya best for kissing men
pseudo merlin
Just the skillcap was way too high
sudden pawn
lol
pseudo merlin
Just the skillcap was way too high
and kinda unrealistic
clever vigil
yeah its like this for all my guys ive tried, I think its bugged
I think ur just bugged
subtle sail
I think ur just bugged
clever vigil
pseudo merlin
I'm just confused why I'm getting insta invites to 12 keys I've only timed on 10, at ilv 667. Is balance that good rn?
digital berry
hmm
drifting nova
I'm just confused why I'm getting insta invites to 12 keys I've only timed on 10...
charity case gg it's over
subtle sail
The belt is fixed now in sims btw
dry compass
I'm just confused why I'm getting insta invites to 12 keys I've only timed on 10...
the metaslaving is just that strong
pseudo merlin
Is nobody playing boomie then? Surely there'd be others that are above 667 lmao
sudden pawn
yes nobody is playing boomie
dry compass
i think you'll find anyone bothering to push keys on boomie that isn't still trying to gear it is probably higher than 12s already
there's other boomies but they're probably 650
pseudo merlin
I guess yeah
dry compass
also can one of you nerds figure out the sims and tell me which belt power I'm supposed to be using
plush obsidian
how bad is double on use trinkets?
grave quiver
is likely charged bolts
pseudo merlin
how bad is double on use trinkets?
+9195 bad
digital berry
also can one of you nerds figure out the sims and tell me which belt power I'm s...
pins?
sullen stone
lol
leaden birch
am I stupid af
how the hell do I start this titan disc quest
I don't see the starting quest
subtle sail
Its the nerd dwarf by the delve shit
meager tapir
belt
leaden birch
holy shit I love that wowhead is incorrect with this stupid dwafs placement on the map
ty
leaden birch
where is gamz when you need him
sullen stone
the adventure log also will give you the first quest for the belt / bring you to the dwarf who starts it
pseudo merlin
Either out catching salmon or out looking for oil probably
Or whatever it is Norwegians do
lucid olive
sturdy perch
which delve has the haste disc? my list was wrong i got the versatility one lol
whoops wrong sub ... good luck boomies!
brave gulch
fungal folly
lucid olive
i was told the sims the pins are based on were wrong
?
digital berry
we will be able to max out the titan console right so it dont matter for now what we choose?
tacit relic
with the new belt out now and taking away my crafted belt slot, what effect should i put on the new pece? just keep it the same?
unkempt crescent
so the haste belt buff comes from fungal folly but its not an overcharged one this week, can we still get the item?
subtle sail
i never question <@143896368388374528>
it got fixed shortly after this
tacit relic
ty Gamz
subtle sail
bronze tartan
no matter how slow I go, or careful, I keep dying in 8 mask orgrimmar from thrall as boomkin. should i try guardian instead or just try again and again until I delete my character in frustration
royal zenith
Oh noooo
unkempt crescent
can anyone confirm that i can still get the items from fungal folly
has anyone tried
nvm i cant fucking read
midnight bough
Does the -16% single butron thing take into account the gcd nerf and or that it doesn't push cds?
sturdy perch
just 691 but u can get all discs unlocked
unkempt crescent
yea i just did it lvl 1 delve and got the item immediately
red nymph
Is belt proc not working or is details just not tracking it atm?
sturdy perch
ya just do them on 1
red nymph
looks like im getting the lightning rod buff but its not doing damage according to details/combat log. on dummies
fluid plinth
my sims are saying dont equip belt 😄
digital berry
what do you need to spam for?
leaden birch
don't we need a bunch of these discs?
digital berry
i did one singular delve and got enough for the belt
grizzled shoal
you need to do the charged ones
leaden birch
right
midnight bough
If you take the 75% parse on some mythic fight and then compare that to sim dps number, how much % worse is the parse number? Obviously it varies just trying to get an idea
pseudo merlin
You shouldn't use sim dps numbers and also not 75th percentile parses
Go run a quick sim and then click on open HTML report
leaden birch
right this talent tree thing is a delve specific only thing
pseudo merlin
Then look at variance
leaden birch
so I can ignore it
hollow bloom
is there any way I could send example logs to one of bala gurus to check what im doing wrong? i have dfc20 in mind right now :/
digital berry
you can post them here
midnight bough
You shouldn't use sim dps numbers and also not 75th percentile parses
No i want to see the % difference between sim dps and real world 75% parse is.
dry compass
is there any way I could send example logs to one of bala gurus to check what im...
if you're doing 20s and asking for log review you're probably looking for more in depth help than someone in a class discord is going to give you
lofty depot
No i want to see the % difference between sim dps and real world 75% parse is.
Take your sim and divide it by ur logged dps and u will see
dry compass
Take your sim and divide it by ur logged dps and u will see
you know you cant divide by 0
..that was funnier before you edited
hollow bloom
its always worth to try tho
i just can't figure why for example my moonfires or starsurges do that less dmg
lofty depot
..that was funnier before you edited
I mean, shrimple math idk
hollow bloom
i know it comes to route, grouping mobs etc but maybe there is something I just don't see
pseudo merlin
No i want to see the % difference between sim dps and real world 75% parse is.
Yes I can read. I don't think there's an answer to your question. I also don't think it's a very logical or useful question.,
Just try to improve using actual useful metrics like casts and resource/cd usage etc
midnight bough
Yes I can read. I don't think there's an answer to your question. I also don't t...
There is a wowhead that shows how much worse 1 button is to sim. I want to know how much worse real world parse is compared to sim
stone ledge
Was debating on making a video running a +12 same group same route one with 1 button rotation and 1 with manual inputs
wary stump
would it be worth crafting 675 shoulders to replace these? seeing as its so far into the season anyway
lofty depot
would it be worth crafting 675 shoulders to replace these? seeing as its so far...
Sure
pseudo merlin
Looks like all your items are super low item level, I'd craft other things first
but probably
wary stump
its my lowest ilvl
Ignore why the photo looks so bright its the HDR messign with screenshots
lofty depot
All ur items are low ilvl
pseudo merlin
yeah but the context is that all your gear is super low
stone ledge
Ideally you want gloves to be the off piece off bis gear but just sim and see what is best
pseudo merlin
doesnt matter if its 650 or 620
its essentially the same thing from an upgrade pov
but you totally could craft shoulders
stone ledge
Go do the hallowfall event. Gets you a champ piece you can catalyze
lofty depot
Cuz it doesn't get out simmed on st
pale hollow
would it be worth crafting 675 shoulders to replace these? seeing as its so far...
Craft 681. That's even better
pseudo merlin
belt
scenic mist
belt or no belt
to read the pins or not to read
neon silo
not
neon silo
answer it again i dare ya
neon silo
double dog dare ya
scenic mist
belt
midnight bough
They added a 1.3 gcd debuff but I have a 2s gcd debuff from my brian. Jokes on you blizz
pseudo merlin
Gottem
scenic mist
They added a 1.3 gcd debuff but I have a 2s gcd debuff from my brian. Jokes on y...
say hi to your brian
i assume it's your siamese twin
wild blaze
i assume it's your siamese twin
its his penis
wild blaze
isnt it johnson usually ?
not in italy
jade flume
How do i charge up a delve
scenic mist
How do i charge up a delve
seek thunder around bountiful delve icon on the map
candid mason
They are randomly assigned like bountiful delves, so look for delves with electricity around them
jade flume
Okok, thx homies
candid mason
Okok, thx homies
Pick up a quest in Dornogal first called Titan Consoles
spring lodge
whats the BIS belt effect?
digital berry
check pins
spring lodge
thanks
wary stump
Go do the hallowfall event. Gets you a champ piece you can catalyze
The nightfall one?
dense steeple
Oh no emnithy went piss name
scenic mist
Oh no emnithy went piss name
how much do you think he paid discord ?
pseudo merlin
50 bucks to whoever gets my name back
scenic mist
the war is over
vital hound
get baguette'd nerd
scenic mist
pseudo merlin
Are you like one of THEM?
I believe I still haven't gotten a straight answer
You just told me you like salted butter
digital berry
Oh no emnithy went piss name
i forgot to cancel nitro this month after a free month and i didn't have any other server to boost
scenic mist
tbf this issue has been resolved some months ago
scenic mist
I believe I still haven't gotten a straight answer
pseudo merlin
Dear god
scenic mist
pseudo merlin
✝️
pseudo merlin
I like how "you think im french because im playing in a french server, but I'm not" is phrased like it's some kind of "gotcha"
pseudo merlin
I would still consider that French
scenic mist
oh they would LOVE to hear that
pseudo merlin
If you're Canadian, Belgian, Swiss, Monegasque or Andorran, you're still French in my eyes.
digital berry
goddamn
dense steeple
how much do you think he paid discord ?
Too much
dense steeple
i forgot to cancel nitro this month after a free month and i didn't have any oth...
Ive been nitro for years. I would never server boost this cesspit
pseudo merlin
Ive been nitro for years. I would never server boost this cesspit
based
scenic mist
Ive been nitro for years. I would never server boost this cesspit
yeah but you are orange name
we dont stand out
we want fame and glory
like the verified pin on X
dense steeple
Tru
stone ledge
The nightfall one?
Yeah there’s a weekly quest to do the world event and it gives a champ piece
pseudo merlin
real talk where's the DG tag
why aren't we representing
@mighty mica where is it
stone ledge
Need the dream tag
scenic mist
real talk where's the DG tag
i think you need to tag moderation
god he did it
crazy fellow
pseudo merlin
Thyme can't hurt me
stone ledge
scenic mist
lmao, discourse of a dead man i can tell
pseudo merlin
Need the dream tag
If only you could have 5 characters in it
stone ledge
Inb4
pseudo merlin
In my defense, Ashitaka told me to do it
pseudo merlin
Doesn't matter
scenic mist
https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-wolf-of-wallstreet-im-not-leaving-im-not-going-gif-17010603
digital berry
i'd totally rock the DG tag
mighty mica
we haven't gotten it yet ¯_(ツ)_/¯
signal temple
real talk where's the DG tag
pseudo merlin
we haven't gotten it yet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The boss man hasn't done it yet or is there some requirement we don't meet?
mighty mica
no
scenic mist
answering no to a 2 option question is insane
pseudo merlin
no
scenic mist
no
mighty mica
neither are correct, it just hasn't been rolled out to the server
mighty mica
jackass
pseudo merlin
@jackass
pseudo merlin
I ain't doing that
scenic mist
nor should you
pseudo merlin
That's not a normal orange, that's a super orange
That's like Trump levels of orange
scenic mist
thats orange but with the blood of previous ppl tagging him
digital berry
i have never seen our lord pawkets anywhere on the server, do they participate ?
scenic mist
i have never seen our lord pawkets anywhere on the server, do they participate ?
last participation in a visible channel to me is 4 years ago tho
scenic mist
busted buddy
yeah i outed myself earlier, no reason to hide anymore
pseudo merlin
Make me orange
dense steeple
Fuckin French
digital berry
probably only yaps in the VIP servers
scenic mist
free Macron
pseudo merlin
Fuckin French
This
dense steeple
Isnt macron Spanish for bitch
drifting nova
..not vodka?
pseudo merlin
New research has shown that alcohol is not in fact good for you Kekkerton
pseudo merlin
Yeah it was
drifting nova
oh big bran
digital berry
wait do you live near pitesti?
pseudo merlin
Yes
digital berry
thasts where i stayed for a month in high school
drifting nova
only castles I've seen were letdowns, maybe one day bran wont be
pseudo merlin
They did a neutering campaign like a decade ago
So you can safely roam the streets now
drifting nova
or whatever that cinderalla one in germany is
pseudo merlin
I'd take you there Kekman
but I'm moving to Italy in a few months
I wanna be close to the new pope
digital berry
you moving to Rome?
pseudo merlin
Nah not in, I don't want to live in a big city ever again
Somewhere near Bolsena
like 10 min from the lake
digital berry
Lived most of my life in pordenone , a city in the fruili region
drifting nova
hate that place (in games)
pseudo merlin
thats like basically slovenia
hella far away
I'd love to live there
Trento would be perfect
or Bolzano
I'd just be driving the mountain roads 24/7
but that area is turbo expensive
drifting nova
but is poland
pseudo merlin
Why the fuck would you willingly move to a country like the UK or Poland or Netherlands
drifting nova
woah there
pseudo merlin
Any country with a 300 days of rain and never sunshine a year climate
drifting nova
those are not equal
digital berry
Poland actually has pretty balanced 4 seasons every year
pseudo merlin
Lazio is super similar to south/central romania
humidity/precipitation wise
overal climate really
And it's also dirt cheap
digital berry
You speak any Italian?
digital berry
Good thing Romanian and Italian are lowkey similar
pseudo merlin
Like
severe sable
Greetings!
How can i track when sometimes i have a proc tht cast starfire instant?
drifting nova
Good thing Romanian and Italian are lowkey similar
velvet cloud
hello moonkins, where can I find a build optimzed for m+ 1 button
pseudo merlin
Comparing Lazio to Arges, they're identical in almost every way that I care about asides from a few things:
- women (sry italisn are uggos compared to Dacians)
- food prices 60% higher
- insane maffia levels of toll road fees
drifting nova
Greetings!
How can i track when sometimes i have a proc tht cast starfire inst...
you mean owlkin frenzy?
digital berry
<:HUH:1115674347865129042>
When I was over there I was able to understand the general idea of what someone was saying, like very surface level
pseudo merlin
hello moonkins, where can I find a build optimzed for m+ 1 button
Check the compendium in pins
I don't think you need a specialised build?
Normal builds will do
drifting nova
tbf I've never heard romanian so just know it's latin
velvet cloud
I just kinda figured normal builds have a lot of talents that you don't benefit from
pseudo merlin
Greetings!
How can i track when sometimes i have a proc tht cast starfire inst...
blizzard default ui does it
Big milkyway symbol above your head
drifting nova
does it?
pseudo merlin
yes
severe sable
ohhh yeah that one
drifting nova
90% of the time I aint trying to get hit
drifting nova
I LITERALLY DIED LAST TIME
dense steeple
I choked on my water reading that
I almost freed you
pseudo merlin
real
dense steeple
Also I knew that but I was trying to be funny
pseudo merlin
I just kinda figured normal builds have a lot of talents that you don't benefit ...
Yeah I think that's a reasonable assumption. I just don't think anyone has theorycrafted something specifically for the 1 button build so for now I'd stick with the regular builds.
It should work just fine tbh
Kekkers are you pressing taunt?
digital berry
Nobody wants to theorycraft balance when we’re the ones pressing buttons, nobody will mind max a one button talent tree
drifting nova
I did accidentally go bear on queen and fatfinger taunt once tho
dense steeple
I taunt in raid every week
pseudo merlin
I mean asides from the class tree, like utility and that, I don't think the 1 button gameplay skips any spec talent actives right
pseudo merlin
actually no way you're roasting me for being French while being Romanian
We're literally Dacians, descendants of Traian
True Romans
Noble people
digital berry
I taunt in raid every week
I ain’t doing the taunt Strat on stix no more
dense steeple
My ancestors were given a family crest by the holy Roman emperor himself in 1521
digital berry
Just pray
dense steeple
How fast does it die now
scenic mist
Is there an actual taunt strat
taunt before sorting to get the tank ball
digital berry
Fast enough that you can rng not getting ball at all
scenic mist
so it's on your terms and not the bosses
dense steeple
You cant get ball again until the whole raid has gotten ball
Kill it fast enough, you get the ball on the stupid set of adds and never again
pseudo merlin
I respect it thoughj
feral atlas
what you guys swapping embelishment to now
pseudo merlin
still the same embels?
scenic mist
what you guys swapping embelishment to now
cloak is the lowest budget
scenic mist
wtf "or"
feral atlas
soooo no sproket cape?
pseudo merlin
some people are on ascendance innit
scenic mist
i mean, i do have sprocket cape, so i crafted bracers and feet
dense steeple
soooo no sproket cape?
Never has been
scenic mist
but feet is like 2nd best group
pseudo merlin
I want that cloak so bad
dense steeple
Mog cape
pseudo merlin
The effect is crazy bro
dusky crescent
Is the belt BiS for us? I feel awful because I max crafted a belt right before they announced the buff
scenic mist
Is the belt BiS for us? I feel awful because I max crafted a belt right before t...
check pins
lofty depot
its bad
scenic mist
worse than your current weapon
barren birch
surely a dps increase over my crafted
lofty depot
why dont u surely go sim it
scenic mist
surely a dps increase over my crafted
no
pseudo merlin
surely not
scenic mist
and change this weapon enchant wtf
lucid olive
it's good if you're an enchanter and want the reagents from disenchanting it
but thats about it
scenic mist
barren birch
what makes the wep so bad for boomy
scenic mist
what makes the wep so bad for boomy
you cant play any on use trinket with it cause you're perma in cd, and it has very few mainstat on it
and the robot says it's bad
and the robot knows best
pseudo merlin
IT simmed pretty insane for me for a minute
Then I realise I was using double passivo trinkets
honest juniper
lucid olive
what makes the wep so bad for boomy
it has reduced primary stat to make up for the on-use and the on-use doesn't not align with our cooldowns better than trinkets do, and our cooldowns are not powerful enough that aligning the on-use is better than a higher stat budget weapon
scenic mist
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vgaBgKU7vAjN1mpmNANv8c
tf is this cursed thing
honest juniper
Can someone check if my SIM card settings are right? I'm not sure if the parameters I used are correct, and it told me to remove the embellishments.
scenic mist
Can someone check if my SIM card settings are right? I'm not sure if the parame...
current balance druid APL doesnt support anything else than 1t5m
stray hamlet
simmed a 19 cinder lol
pseudo merlin
current balance druid APL doesnt support anything else than 1t5m
MDT works
scenic mist
Is this not MDT
45min sim of a 19 cinderbrew
strange route if you ask me
not gonna run a +20 after that
vapid anvil
is 691 max for the belt this week?
formal crest
yes
pseudo merlin
yup
meager storm
help when i press moonkin form it toggles off and on without stopping wtf is this 
scenic mist
help when i press moonkin form it toggles off and on without stopping wtf is thi...
your keyboard is locked ?
meager storm
no
scenic mist
no
vital hound
tf is this cursed thing
mdt
vital hound
it always displays as 45min
scenic mist
huh
vital hound
idk why it just does
delicate perch
it's counting for sheep being in the key
vital hound
ok cavey
delicate perch
raidbots so smart now holy
vital hound
you listen here bud
delicate perch
vital hound
im POWERFUL
delicate perch
vital hound
sheeptwo growing as well
delicate perch
vital hound
sheeps aint goats
simply better you'll find
scenic mist
i know i would
pseudo merlin
any bandit carries real quick?
meager storm
well idk what it is but instead of the spell by itself i just did a macro for it
sht is cooked
hard maple
help when i press moonkin form it toggles off and on without stopping wtf is thi...
its a bug with the press and hold casting setting, turn it off
hard maple
oh. that fixed it for me for bear form, GL xD
meager storm
cuz only happened with boomy form nothing else
vital hound
go back to clicking dak
meager storm
delicate perch
wouldnt you just tier
sims better for minigame 
vital hound
sims better for minigame <:smilers:1153270308531359754>
bro loot is not the difference for your 14s
we had this conversation last night
scenic mist
vital hound
titanforge dn
stone ledge
14s
vital hound
formal crest
marsh kelp
is the wowhead "best titan disc" wrong for boomy m+?
maiden pasture
sim your own char dont worry about what wowhead says
mighty mica
ew
pseudo merlin
I base my gearing decisions off of the top 10 on murlokk IO
Then I cross reference that with dsune's armory
little cove
do i just keep doing other random overrcharged delves tier 1 to unlock the spark burst?
craggy sonnet
no
the powers are all tied to one specific delve
doesnt have to be overcharged either
serene jacinth
anyone have insane lag on mythic gally? Every add set + frontal bait im getting totally locked up 😭
potent cargo
try a pull with ur nameplates toggled off just out of interest
havent done the fight but i s2g half the giga lag comes from a stack of weak auras and nameplate shit
on any encounter
serene jacinth
giving it a go. I pray.
dense steeple
@digital berry we're live with first reclear after week off
digital berry
did wclogs decide to remove bandit adds from logs or not?
meager storm
digital berry
ty ty
meager storm
delicate perch
all logs should be boss damage only
meager storm
perhaps
digital berry
stix boss dam only log
delicate perch
pseudo merlin
all logs should be boss damage only
based
plush obsidian
we goin charged bolts for m+?
pseudo merlin
Charged pins
meager storm
hmm i wonder what the pin says
vital hound
is water wet then
pseudo merlin
It's not actually
vital hound
pseudo merlin
Wet means a liquids ability to maintain contact with a solid surface
So water is not wet, it can make things wet
🤓 👆
high zodiac
question - i loved balance in SL and less so in DF, and havent mained it for a long time but tried a couple keys as balance and it seemed a lot less fun. Is it just that I've switched and lost the groove and people are loving balance right now, or is it in a weird spot?
pseudo merlin
I loved it MOP hated it in WOD loved it in Legion hated it in BFA loved it in SL and hated it in DF and now I love it again
¯_(ツ)_/¯
high zodiac
kk
delicate perch
Gg you hate it next xpac
pseudo merlin
high zodiac
lol
pseudo merlin
yup its over
delicate perch
vast storm
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/g1K4NoW56btParwu3wLJGV
did they change something? this is raid talents and .2 increase?
for crafted ring ^
smoky horizon
Thank you :)
pseudo merlin
what are we doing here
vast storm
Why on earth are you simming 3t 5 min
raid fight....
pseudo merlin
?
lofty depot
those arent raid talents
pseudo merlin
What raid fight is 3t 5 min
vast storm
sorry yes those are mythic hold on my bad
maiden pasture
- 3t 5min is a useless sim?
- crafted ring has beaten circlet in m+ sims for a long time
lofty depot
"long time"
maiden pasture
"long time"
yes
pseudo merlin
I just checked dsune's armory, he's still using it
vast storm
1) 3t 5min is a useless sim?
2) crafted ring has beaten circlet in m+ sims for a...
how long should i do then?
maiden pasture
dsune isnt a minigamer
pseudo merlin
Smolderon with 2 love fool dummies
lmao
maiden pasture
how long should i do then?
what are you trying to sim for
vast storm
raid
exotic perch
yea why would you do 3 targets for raid
pseudo merlin
yea why would you do 3 targets for raid
raid fight......
maiden pasture
you're running elunes chosen so idk what raid talents ur doing
and what raid fight is 3t 5min
vast storm
most bosses have adds
pseudo merlin
most bosses have 2 targets with 100% uptime?
exotic perch
yea but sustained 3 targets is not adds
pseudo merlin
maiden pasture
3t5min is fighting 3 stacked targets the whole time
pseudo merlin
Has there ever been a 100% uptime 3t fight
exotic perch
if you want to do adds you would do the mdt one
pseudo merlin
council was one at a time
vast storm
Has there ever been a 100% uptime 3t fight
the nine
pseudo merlin
?
maiden pasture
Has there ever been a 100% uptime 3t fight
council in raszageth was 4t
pseudo merlin
No bro dance council
vast storm
santam the nine
vast storm
yeah and dance council
maiden pasture
4t sustained
pseudo merlin
Not yeah dance council
digital berry
dance was a ST fight
vast storm
ahhh its cleave
pseudo merlin
not cleave
vast storm
lol
pseudo merlin
1t
vast storm
the nine was 2 then 3
smoky horizon
Its wild to me that belt is only 1.5%, all my friends and myself included thought it would be 5% minimum
pseudo merlin
you thought a single item would give you a minimum of 5% dmg?
smoky horizon
For m+ I mean
digital berry
its also 10 ilvls below max
lucid olive
the nine was 2 then 3
the Nine was 2 target, then 3 target for 30 seconds and 1 target for 3 minutes
smoky horizon
you thought a single item would give you a minimum of 5% dmg?
ye
pseudo merlin
yeah so not a 3t fight
exotic perch
where is my council of blood fight fr
pseudo merlin
I'm like genuinely curious now, we've never had a 100% uptime 3t fight have we
lucid olive
Council of Dreams is the closest but that wasn't stacked
maiden pasture
council of dreams is 3t?
pseudo merlin
Like not even in vanilla or bc
lucid olive
did my rank 1 boss dam all star stay the entire patch
it did
lmao get owned losers
maiden pasture
3.5mil on sprocket
not even previous rank 1
noble spindle
shit
maiden pasture
r2 tho
smoky horizon
Anyone US players here? How long did it take to get belt + the buff you want
lofty depot
the closest ur gonna get is primal council
noble spindle
u start wit hthe buff
lofty depot
and that bitch wasnt 5m either
noble spindle
so u just need the belt
lofty depot
Anyone US players here? How long did it take to get belt + the buff you want
2 delves, 10 minutes
noble spindle
and it takes like 5 minutes max on tier1 delve
smoky horizon
Awesome :) ty
noble spindle
10 minute amateur
vast storm
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iJz3F264hKwhf4m45Zay1i
so this is right?
lofty depot
i was watching baseball
smoky horizon
Will probs take me 20mins LMAO
digital berry
i did an 11 delve by msitake as first
pseudo merlin
yo but tomorrow when this shit goes live for us
digital berry
and was too lazy to leave and get back
vast storm
its my rik mythic talents
smoky horizon
How much does the ST buff hit for?
pseudo merlin
why are you playing TM on mythic rik
noble spindle
to blow up the casks
plush obsidian
so when the pin says spark burst or electric current might be better for m+, do i still just sim myself for 1t5min and just use that for m+?
noble spindle
pad dam
lofty depot
so when the pin says spark burst or electric current might be better for m+, do ...
or learn how to do an mdt sim
lucid olive
so when the pin says spark burst or electric current might be better for m+, do ...
sure
pseudo merlin
I respect the pad
lofty depot
or trust that his numbers are correct and do it
pseudo merlin
as long as its not for prog
plush obsidian
or learn how to do an mdt sim
signal temple
as long as its not for prog
Prog? What kind of a nerd does that?
pseudo merlin
¯_(ツ)_/¯
digital berry
Prog? What kind of a nerd does that?
<:catwhat:579352718171439105>
the good ones
pseudo merlin
I just join post prog for unethical parsing
digital berry
vast storm
I just join post prog for unethical parsing
I LOVE THIS FOR YOU
shrewd pivot
do you stand in the middle for cauldron or it doesn't really do anything
digital berry
nah
dense steeple
only if you trust seranul
digital berry
it really doesn't do much
shrewd pivot
only if you trust seranul
he's at some dinner, abandoned the run
frosty briar
Hey quick question for mythic +
I only ever do mythic + and never plan on raiding. I have access to myth track dungeon trinkets but only heroic track raid trinkets.
Does anyone know which is best. 684 Signet of the Priory and Carved Blazkion wax or 671 House of cards and Mug’s Moxie Jug. Is there a definitive answer or is it just what the sim says.
smoky horizon
Hey quick question for mythic +
I only ever do mythic + and never plan on raidi...
i did a lot of simming on this, 671 house of cards + jug is best
not by a lot tho, its all pretty close
frosty briar
Okay thanks. Thats what I have seen too but was such a close margin wasn’t sure if it was my characters stats or one pair was all around better later
delicate perch
on use kinda gooderer in m+
smoky horizon
np, good luck
delicate perch
if it's ever close I'd always take the on use
blasting down some shit pack/mini boss > 0.2% more overall in a key
frosty briar
Thanks guys
smoky horizon
ye def take on use
fluid plinth
can someone look at this and explain lol
no matter what i feel like cyrces is always a gain and the belt always sims lower.
delicate perch
yep I love 8t 90s fights
digital berry
what the actual fuck is that sim
lyric kettle
the first 90s of a depleted key obviously
It’s resilient actually
bleak pollen
@wheat rivet Yo
crisp shale
could i get someone to look at some logs for me and tell me why my damage sucks
alpine ocean
can you still escape jails on M Mug w cat wildcharge? how.
subtle sail
you can human WC the timing is really tight
alpine ocean
ewww. ok ty
white chasm
could i get someone to look at some logs for me and tell me why my damage sucks
try n link
lets see what you got
teal sphinx
@delicate perch 
delicate perch
<@129188899741237248> <a:wavee:1252810529831915603>
orchid willow
what belt talent are yall taking master or haste
cursive ridge
I tried out the singel button assist - and I thought it beat me on single target damage. But thankfully, it was target dummies that were bugging out, so retired on a single target dummy and I beat it (thank god - almost got to top dmg as simmed)
cursive ridge
what belt talent are yall taking master or haste
I simmed mine on Raidbots
Electric Current worked best for me
wanton pasture
was that 1 target 5 min?
lol mine says charged bolts is the best, but I typically do m+ so I was thinking one of the other
delicate perch
I tried out the singel button assist - and I thought it beat me on single target...
oh yeah? well why did tettles top damage in a 17ml using it??
delicate perch
1 target 5 min for ST
8 targets 40 seconds for M+
white chasm
oh yeah? well why did tettles top damage in a 17ml using it??
Tettles being top damage on anything is the biggest misinformation ive ever heard
cursive ridge
was that 1 target 5 min?
1 target 2 mintues
delicate perch
wtf are these sims 🗣️
white chasm
wtf are these sims 🗣️
Whats wrong with 1 target 5 min and 8 for 40?
delicate perch
the first is fine
I can not imagine you are fighting 8 mobs for 40s with cds often enough for that to be reliable
white chasm
reason for the 40 is because tanks at 16's are slow asf to group shit, so I just account for grouping as well
white chasm
but yeah the fighting itself would be around 30 seconds
lyric kettle
I love beans
delicate perch
❌
white chasm
wanton pasture
I am just trying to figure out how to sim for m+, if "Charged Bolts" is best for raid which is most likely ST, and our most reliable sim is 1t5m, then it wont beat out any other belt buff like Static Burst or Electric Current right?
white chasm
its FEral time anyways bois
Gotta get that owl out and the kitty in with the new belt
calm ibex
Ew no
cursive ridge
wtf are these sims 🗣️
Alright I redid it.
🦉 5 minute ST on Target Dummy (Chosen of Elune) =** 1.84m DPS**
🦉 ROTATION BUTTON + Incarn Presses 5 minute ST on Target Dummy (Chosen of Elune) = **1.71m **
🦉 Raidbots ST Quicksim 5 minutes = 2.16m DPS
delicate perch
cursive ridge
Do I need to practice single target more? 1.84 out of 2.16 didn't seem terrible to me personally, but I'm not sure how closely others can get to the raidbots sim
(Would love if anyone had shared their dummies vs raidbots DPS)
white chasm
Do I need to practice single target more? 1.84 out of 2.16 didn't seem terrible ...
Did you remember to remove heroism and other buffs you dont have? 👀
cursive ridge
Did you remember to remove heroism and other buffs you dont have? 👀
ye
cloud lion
This rng from vault is next level
Was late for reclear got only 2 vault slot
And both are fming belts
digital berry
Do I need to practice single target more? 1.84 out of 2.16 didn't seem terrible ...
That’s not how you actually test whether you’re playing well or not
The sim doesn’t just run once, there’s rng involved with convoke and free spenders procs
The sim is an average, unless you practice the same 5 minute duration over and over and average it out it’s worthless to compare yourself to sim
If you want to know if you’re doing smth wrong post some logs
cursive ridge
If you want to know if you’re doing smth wrong post some logs
Okay - yes thank you, that woudl be so helpful in the future
vital hound
@lucid olive fire up the robot
delicate perch
yep insane trinket
smoky horizon
Across how many weeks can we upgrade the belt?
lofty depot
like 3 or 4 surely
merry ibex
Is it possible to have more than 1 bar changing with forms? And is it possible to edit it so some forms get the same bars?
stone ledge
Does anyone have a weakaura for blooming infusion?
quiet drift
Anyone know if the belt just does nothing if youre at 45 yards
since it has 40 yard range
This effect
stone ledge
https://wago.io/BloomingInfusion
ty
mental plover
how much was spymasters even giving
olive cloak
First Balance vault of TWW and it's a Mythic signet 
stone ledge
gally CHEST
mental plover
yeah that shit is crazy
misty oyster
is there a final answer to wether we run the haste or lightning on the belt for higher end m+ keys?
vagrant cove
is there a final answer to wether we run the haste or lightning on the belt for ...
Everything ive read has stated haste is best for M+, and ive also read that its best to sim it against the mastery one as well because for some people the mastery can be better than the haste
misty oyster
aite bro thx
vagrant cove
No problems
tired folio
vagrant cove
Quick question, I noticed on dreamgrove in the Keeper of the Grove ST priority list it states that its better to use FON -> CA -> Convoke regardless of how much AP we have. I imagine theres a reason, and its probably an obvious reason too, but I was wondering why we arent FON -> CA -> Starsurging until can't afford to -> Convoke
I havent done much raid at all so i am brand new to the build thats all, ive been doing it how dreamgrove says id just like to understand the reason why we're fine with overcapped AP during Convoke. My best guess is that it's better to just get it on cooldown and lose a couple starsurges?
^ Ive just re-read the priority list to see if i missed anything, I definitely did, did not realise it said "When below 40 AP" next to convoke lmfao
Im just stupid, sorry
wraith moss
I don't get it, do we have to wait for dungeons to be overcharged to unlock abilities?