balance

[gaunt solar]

if you have aetherial kindling talent yah

[pseudo merlin]

same as elune's

2 with kindling

[gaunt solar]

that's nice

[pseudo merlin]

can't believe NB is still not baseline

[strong thistle]

I do have it tyty

[pseudo merlin]

@lucid olive look how many of my wishes came true

[gaunt solar]

someone listening to you lol

[lucid olive]

CA still not 2m

[pseudo merlin]

I mean

basically

[gaunt solar]

any cool plater profiles you use?

[lucid olive]

Jundies is good

[gaunt solar]

trying to figure out how to change the plates based on the dots I have like naowh's does

i've just been modifying his for now

[raw fox]

https://wago.io/GeHuM2FWx

add this script

to w/e profile you're using

and modify the colors

[gaunt solar]

oh you're awesome, tyvm

[pseudo merlin]

Can't wait to see what Blizzards version of this will be (nothing)

[lucid olive]

it probably just won't work

[pseudo merlin]

that would imply that they made an attempt and it wasn't forgotten

[digital berry]

Wait prater is going away too?

[lucid olive]

they've said something like they're gonna limit addons ability to detect debuffs and stuff like that

so its possible that changing nameplate color based on active dots wont be possible

[pseudo merlin]

They mentioned color coding nameplates for w/e as example

Maybe they'll limit it to things like dots and just want to get rid of color coding kicks and stops/dangerous costs

[candid mason]

My guild is starting Stix prog tonight. I was wondering what yall do with the bombs when they spawn (assuming you are not ball)

Do you just dot them and then hit boss while starfalling, and then swap off wrath when they get grouped up?

[meager storm]

any immortals in chat

[pseudo merlin]

yuge bro

[meager storm]

[lucid olive]

dont even bother dotting them

the boss starts cast and you see you're not picked to roll a ball and you treants and incarn and just spam starfall

[candid mason]

I was just watching your pov lmao

[lucid olive]

when you dont have AP for another starfall you cast a Wrath or Sunfire a bombshell and then slam Starfall again

[candid mason]

On bosses like this, are you trying to land a lot of starfire's or just wrathing when everything is clumped up

[lucid olive]

just Wrath tbh

[candid mason]

Alright, thank you

[maiden pasture]

wtf is this

[meager storm]

THE moba

[lucid olive]

smite?

[meager storm]

[maiden pasture]

the only real moba

smite 2 ruined it tho

[lucid olive]

the only real moba? @lofty depot deadlock?

[pallid crest]

I wonder if its better to just play my own keys than LFG. Now I've spent 2 full days queing 18's with 4/8 18's completed idk

[pseudo merlin]

the moonkin experience

1 dmg instance, 100% hp, insta k0

[delicate perch]

Your fault for having 8m hp

Bozo ass

[vital hound]

hon?

[pseudo merlin]

boost me mythic

[pseudo merlin]

speaking french?

hon hon hon

[lofty depot]

Uhhh, nah games dead

[strong thistle]

Corruption question. Gushing Wounds is simming better for me than Void Ritual. Was it bugged earlier? Is it still?

[smoky horizon]

Do we have any sims on the % increase from belt for m+?

[delicate perch]

yep but they're gatekept

[lucid olive]

more than 0.5%

less than 10%

[meager storm]

just u, void ritual still sims higher for me

[strong thistle]

?

what

[lucid olive]

link sim

[strong thistle]

after dungeon

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rvaqUTt5Kb67N3rxXNNbEa

[vital hound]

[strong thistle]

It's my alt 😦

[lucid olive]

a 2k difference is not it simming better

the sim just highrolled the difference

[strong thistle]

Sure, when I was simming enchants I just took the highest

[lucid olive]

its also a ST proc so has no value in aoe where void ritual gives stats making it scale in aoe

your ilvl is also dogshit so the sim values the ST proc more

[strong thistle]

Damn

Back to Void Ritual then

Also is it not a 15k difference?

not 2k?

[lucid olive]

i assumed the "current gear" had ritual on it

[strong thistle]

No, Gushing

[lucid olive]

then yeah sure

[strong thistle]

Okay back to my original question then lol

[lucid olive]

the answer is the same

[strong thistle]

A while ago, I recall reading that Gushing was bugged

[lucid olive]

lower ilvl = ST proc better

[strong thistle]

Is it still bugged or was that something else?

That's all I asked about lol

[lucid olive]

that was something else

[strong thistle]

okay cool

tyty

[drifting nova]

🐻

[delicate perch]

bro spent more time being confused than getting gear

[vital hound]

did the math to enchant season 1 gear

[sleek echo]

Is there anyway to keep Starfall from aggroing mobs when you're sneaking past them? Is it just waiting for it to fall off? Had a 15 brick to it pulling the Peacemaker in ML when we were doing the box skip.

[eager raft]

Starfall doesn’t hit mobs that aren’t already in combat

And why would u have Starfall rolling while trying to sneak past something

[lucid olive]

Willing to bet it was somebodys pet body pulling it and Starfall got aggro

[sleek echo]

Ah. I got kicked, but I genuinely didn't know what I did wrong there since I thought Starfall ignored non-aggro topics.

[lucid olive]

Starfall didn't pull it at least

[delicate perch]

why not

[delicate perch]

[eager raft]

yeah good point

[exotic perch]

prepping for damage on the pull ofc

[delicate perch]

Pre starfall

[exotic perch]

attempt to pre starfall adds in raid

adds die in 2 seconds anyway

cry

i USED to dmg in gallywix intermissions

[delicate perch]

[eager raft]

i pre beast cleave and burst the shit out of the adds

[delicate perch]

Reported

[calm ibex]

I just get 1-2 starfires on little adds

[exotic perch]

im 100% certain all the melee hold cds for those and kill them in 2 seconds

[calm ibex]

Then smash the sentry’s

[exotic perch]

i just gave up and ST the boss

[calm ibex]

To be fair I’m holding too

[delicate perch]

Boss damage means I get to log off faster

[exotic perch]

no more holding cds for intermission boss dies in 7 mins anyway

[delicate perch]

It’s that simple

[calm ibex]

True

[exotic perch]

love the buffs and shit means faster farm

[sleek echo]

Starfall was still up because the DH's immo aura pulled all the revelers, so we had to kill those and I didn't wait for it to fall off before jumping over since I thought I was out of range.

[delicate perch]

If you have a log of it you could watch the replay to possibly see what actually pulled it, but most likely someone face pulled it and starfall got the first hit

[south canopy]

My DPS isn't where it should be anyone willing to help me out with what I'm missing????

[vital hound]

post log

@lofty depot will judge you

[south canopy]

sick...... Please be rough

[placid apex]

does the spell you cast to reenter moonkin form with fluid form get the benefit of being in moonkin form?

[south canopy]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/emerald-dream/zorahamas These logs are out of date tbh. Smh

[lofty depot]

Maybe later I'm at a bar

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/bIc7p.gif

[lofty depot]

Drunk log review surely

[south canopy]

Yippee, drunk words are a sober mans thoughts

[lofty depot]

Id likely say it while sober

[fossil shard]

Confirmed

[exotic perch]

hello i am drunk but at home

premier log reviews

also The Studio is fuckin great

apple tv struck gold again

[trail harness]

any good balance players that stream? would like to watch some gameplay

[wicked shuttle]

Dwilkz, Yarrgi, Tarisant, myself, Krona

can look on the front page of raider.io and check their profiles

see if any are streaming

[vital hound]

one of those is not like the others

[trail harness]

thanks!

[wicked shuttle]

that's right

yarrgi is a hunter main

good point

[vital hound]

[delicate perch]

[calm ibex]

any ideas what ilvl we'll use the new belt?

[lucid olive]

No

[delicate perch]

[lucid olive]

Last I checked, if you queue an instant cast spell right after the Fluid Form cast to re-enter Moonkin Form it also does not get the benefit of Moonkin Form

[calm ibex]

just simmed it

with charged bolt st we wear it once we get it

[placid apex]

lame

i don't use the talent anyways but was just wondering

[nocturne seal]

Is it better to hold Force of Nature to cast at the start of an eclipse or does it not matter?

[lucid olive]

It doesn't make a big difference but ideally you'd save it for start of an eclipse

[calm ibex]

if youre not using CA probably hold

what gamz said

hes cooler than me

[lucid olive]

It makes sense that it's better but I've never had it be better in a sim when I've tested it

It's always just been neutral

[fiery harness]

do we need to run 11 delves every week?

whats the ilvl to run 11 delves

[calm ibex]

You can just go healer and use tank bran if you’re to low ilvl

And no you do not need to run 11 delves each week. You do get myth crests from it

So I recommend it

But you don’t NEED to

[fiery harness]

im 653

[lucid olive]

653 is good enough, put Brann as healer and give him that power that drops bottles on the ground that heal you when you step over them

I did it at like 630 on my alt druid

[lilac patrol]

hey, what is the best way to catchup on gilded crests?

[fiery harness]

why don't i have fey missile (dream of denizen)

[lucid olive]

Wdym its right there

It's the bottom left talent in your spec tree

[fiery harness]

oh i see it

[lucid olive]

Spawns small faeries and they do dam

[fiery harness]

but its like 8% dmg for the other boomy

[lucid olive]

Unlucky

[delicate perch]

skill issue

[quiet drift]

😭

2025

[olive cloak]

Morning - if I'm just picking up an alt (probably push to 3k, leave it there) and have some dinars to spend. Is the recommendation to grab Jastor, Mug'Zee jug, leave one spare for a M+ trinket and then craft a weapon? Thanks

[sleek echo]

How do you survive as balance in higher keys? I've been dipping my toes into 15s and I've noticed sometimes I'm just blowing up through barkskin to things like the Arbalest minions in ToP or the two sky scorchers that the final boss in ML summons. Do I just need to sit in bear form until the healer can top me off?

[lusty pelican]

You absolutely do not blow up through barkskin 😅

If you’re utilizing your defensives correctly and you’re still dying to unavoidable dmg, then it’s just healer issue - Sometimes you have to sit in bear to let your healer catch up, but blowing up through barkskin is a stretch

[placid apex]

targeted spell weakaura helps a lot for things like that if you don't have one already, but you should be mostly fine with a barkskin and or renewal or hp pot assuming you get some heals, alternatively you can try to meld away some casts if you're night elf. there shouldn't be many times where you have to hard sit in bear form in that key range

[sleek echo]

In this case it was just getting hit by buster shot 5 times in 4 seconds + the aoe from the boss looking at the details recap in the final ML one.

[lusty pelican]

Well then no one else is getting hit right

So what else is there to heal

But yeah if you get hit 5 times and 0 heals

And you burn through barkskin, renewal and hp/it’s on cd

Not much to do

[sleek echo]

ah okay. Am I supposed to be using frenzied renewal? I've tried it a few times, but it doesn't seem to do anything? Especially because idk how I can generate rage as balance.

[lusty pelican]

Not the same spell, you’re thinking about frenzied regen now

Renewal is a heal

But you gain rage from entering bearform, so you can always Press it right after

[sleek echo]

Ohh. I did not know that. Ty!

[placid apex]

for that specifically prob just trying your best to be in bear with ursine vigor active for the hit

and can also have frenzied regen going at the same time

[teal minnow]

On the ml boss in particular there's a chance you'll be living in bearform in intermission if the healer is not paying attention

[sleek echo]

I just need to get used to spending time in bearform after reviewing my details logs a bit more, I guess. Failed to time a +15 Priory as well since we had 16 deaths, seven of them being mine. The paladin's in particular were just hitting for 5m a toll whenever barkskin was down.

Is there a weakaura/addon to tell you when you're being targeted by stuff? I had two deaths to fireballs volleys, but I couldn't see them at all in the throng of npcs.

[placid apex]

i use this https://wago.io/s08yL_PCP but it makes sounds by default which not everybody likes, can find an alternate just by searching targeted spells

fireball volley should never really go off as thats the highest prio kick during any of those pulls, and for paladins you just need to space out your defensives a bit. healer is pretty strong during lust window but as lust is winding down and their big cds are gone they'll need some more help which is where personals and group defs come into play

[slender dragon]

hey guys, how do you avoid to pull the big blood leecher near momma with our randoms shrooms when tank pull 2 littles ?

i try to ask the tank to wait the AoE phase of the boss while i'm starsurging to avoid starfall damages on them

but it happens very often those days

[rancid glen]

That’s what I did, simply because jastor and jug simmed best for me. With 675 ilvl I get invited to 14 much more frequently than it happened on my main when I hadn’t resi 14.. druid is very very good 🙂 3k will be super easy

Jastor, jug and HoC 671 beat every 684m+ trinket in my gear currently

[proud hedge]

Is this staff worth using or should I just keep farming the mechagon one?

[pulsar goblet]

Both are not good for us, just craft its really better

[real shard]

what is best gonna do next patch after buffs ? 2%?

[pseudo merlin]

what?

[broken relic]

Just respeced from feral to balance.... 🎶 a wholeee newwww worldddd 🎶

[pseudo merlin]

welcome to the correct spec

[broken relic]

https://tenor.com/view/moonkin-dance-starfall-dancing-moonkin-gif-20256106

[drifting nova]

you arent even balance smh

[pseudo merlin]

I am

[covert talon]

Is new belt worth getting saw somthing about it not worth it? have 684 socketed atm

[lofty depot]

just like the ring, if its not worht it they buff it

they just did a round of buffs, u will use it

[gaunt solar]

boomy starting to click! loving this class

[edgy carbon]

Hi, why on Mug'zee all druids start the fight on the other side of the room even though their convoc always hit the add ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCDEsq86d5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qatjvxg3aoA

[lofty depot]

it can still hit it but theyre trying to lower the chance of it hitting it

[edgy carbon]

okais okais ty

[merry ibex]

"How will I know which belt to equip after the next reset? Will there be updated sims available?

[digital berry]

Yes and you can sim the belt yourself

[merry ibex]

thx

[lofty depot]

the sim is alreayd available if u know what mimiron.raidbots.com is

[pseudo merlin]

Clicking is bad sir.

[gaunt solar]

[maiden pasture]

theyre standing in the wrong spot

if you stand at the right spot you're literally out of ranmge of the add

[pallid bay]

[lofty depot]

dont hmm me

[pallid bay]

but there's no lower chance

[lofty depot]

if ur out of range of it

i didnt mean cuz its 50/50-

[zealous gorge]

is it true that frenzied regen stops when you leave bear form?

[scenic mist]

yes

WHI proc will also cancel

if you shapeshift into anything other than bear

[zealous gorge]

that is so sad

[scenic mist]

fRiCTioN

[lofty depot]

welcoem to boomkin

[zealous gorge]

also, it it true that there is tech to not get the heal absorb on 3rd boss DFC with wild charge?

[scenic mist]

yes

dont be where the projectile will land, and it's ggs

[zealous gorge]

so i charge when the projectile is in the air?

[zealous gorge]

sorry what does that mean haha?

[scenic mist]

positive
it's a yes

[zealous gorge]

okay cool thanks 😊

[scenic mist]

wanted to be 2 letters faster, ended up writing 50 more

sadge

[edgy carbon]

Do you have a video of someone who is in the right place?

[lofty depot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoXO8ObRWYk&t=212s&ab_channel=Gamz

[pallid bay]

[lucid olive]

yeah i wouldn't advertise that as doing it correctly

also i asked if we could pull the boss onto the line in the middle on pull instead of tanking him on metal side but it was ignored

[lofty depot]

hey man, i dont see ur rank 1s either and u write the guide

sooooooooooooooooooo sometimes u make mistakes but is good enough

[broken relic]

trying to wrap my head around this rotation

a lot easier than feral though LOL

[drifting nova]

woah, we dont do that here

[earnest sage]

what enchantment on cyrce circlet?

[lofty depot]

which ever one sims highest

[drifting nova]

twilight dev

I hear thats good

[lofty depot]

thats...

[coarse shoal]

Hello, I'm looking to get a log review if that's all right. I have two fights here from Stix, one in which we defeated Stix and the other is our second best pull. Those aren't my best parses but I felt it would be most fair to post them.

Here's second best:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wnDrgBAmLHdYT9p2?fight=32&type=damage-done

Kill:
(Fight was very messy at the end/I got the ball twice which is where you see the DPS drop)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wnDrgBAmLHdYT9p2?fight=34&type=damage-done

I've been slowly working on a few things (mainly piling AP for starlord atm) to increase my dps but I also had a few questions. When it comes to getting starlord stacks, would it be better to use starfall/starsurge once, get the stack then use another one, etc. or would it be better to cast your spells (wrath/starfire) until you're able to get 2-3 stacks of starlord?

Another question I have regarding specifically the Stix fight is if you have the ball should you hold your incarn/trees until the next pull for full value or use it asap? I'm usually last off the ball as I have major internet/fps issues, unfortunately.

I would really love to get a log review in the future as I feel my single target is quite bad but we'll see how much I've improved when we start progging on Lockenstock.

[lofty depot]

whch of the 4 r u

[coarse shoal]

Oh I'm sorry!

Nikna

[plucky valley]

lol that was funny

I won’t forget your mistake

[lofty depot]

i cba remembering timing on a boss without allstar points

i mena it all seems fine

ur canceling wraths when adds are out

if ur having troubl;e with it just press a dot instead

[scenic mist]

what timings are you talking about ? just hold everything until sorting, then dump everything, rince repeat until the boss is dead

[lofty depot]

id worry more about that

[lofty depot]

well when i sent that picture it was the immune phase

all of u basically stand in front of tanks

so ur always gonna have aggro on the hyenas

u can start there if u want, but also ur ball rollers arent rolling htem over

[scenic mist]

you should spend to get starlord stacks, even if you wont get the 3rd right away
you should hold cds when picked by the ball

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wnDrgBAmLHdYT9p2?fight=34&type=damage-done&pins=2%24Off%24%23244F4B%24expression%24resources.hpPercent+>+80+and+target.id%3D231531

this is the single most important thing of your fight, and you seem to be doing good

[pseudo merlin]

anyone know the total number of crests for max gilded upgrade

[round field]

575

[pseudo merlin]

thx

I'll just x2 that and I'm sure it will be accurate

[round field]

thnically

if you find every piece at myth 1

its 1.8k

[pseudo merlin]

7x10 times 15 right

[round field]

without discount

[pseudo merlin]

yeah but that's for noobs

[round field]

bit less

[pseudo merlin]

ye so 1050 thx

💤

[edgy carbon]

Why are the druids so low in the calculation of the profitability of the PI ? They do the calculations with the convoc ?

I think that on a CD where you don't have a convoc it could be very good, right ?

[amber idol]

how much dmg is the belt for us

at max ilvl

[exotic perch]

more then 1

[scenic mist]

who cares tbh

all you need to know is it's BIS, right ?

[coarse shoal]

@lofty depot @scenic mist Thank you both very much!

Also, want to thank everybody for doing such an amazing job with dreamgrove.gg. It's a wonderful resource to have as a new player even though I didn't understand hardly any of it at first. I have been slowly referencing/checking back on it for smaller things when I've started to get comfortable with other game mechanics and it's really been lovely. In a couple of other class discords and this one is 😚

[lofty depot]

type shit

[pseudo merlin]

W?

[lucid olive]

🫡

[pseudo merlin]

Can you still recraft without crafting dust

Like can I put that burden on the crafter and just pay them for it

[fervent merlin]

Lazy af but yea

[pseudo merlin]

🤝

[maiden pasture]

Y E

caps

most have it, i do it on my alt

i assume u mean the acuity or?

[pseudo merlin]

yea i never remember the name

i got 0

[scenic mist]

did you get the 200 from the profession quest ?

[pseudo merlin]

You think I'm out here questing?

[scenic mist]

it's literally "talk to the guy, get the reward"

[pseudo merlin]

HC gallywix pugs don't wipe themselves

[pseudo merlin]

If I go there and it's more than talk to the guy

[scenic mist]

it's not i swear

enter the building

and talk to the guy

[pseudo merlin]

Ok you're safe

op

🤝

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-chris-evans-handsome-smile-smirk-gif-16562725

[signal temple]

[grizzled shoal]

gz

onward to 12s

[pseudo merlin]

Anyone use litemount?

[signal temple]

I got that on Rogue, pure hell

[pseudo merlin]

what

"HC gally group, must have curve"

[signal temple]

You linked CE, he wanted AotC, duh

[pseudo merlin]

Silly me

[signal temple]

What kind of an addon is that? EliteDBag?

[dense steeple]

I hope blizzard nukes it with the rest of em

[signal temple]

Smuggest

[pseudo merlin]

I've never heard of it before

What does it do

[dense steeple]

Lets condiments feel tough

[pseudo merlin]

Does it like ignore whispers if people don't have a certain thing in their message? Like in this case could it be filtering out any message that doesn't contain an AOTC link?

[dense steeple]

Idk

[signal temple]

That's what I want to know

[pseudo merlin]

That would be crazy

[pseudo merlin]

below a specific level? XD

[signal temple]

Yeah, he's too skilled

[dense steeple]

Oh you beat me too it

[pseudo merlin]

That's wild

I'm gonne work on getting better

I want to be worthy

[scenic mist]

some ppl really have too much time

[signal temple]

You didn't get a whisper about the requirement though, which is odd

[pseudo merlin]

yeah

[signal temple]

Must be some very convoluted system they have in place

[hybrid garden]

Anyone know if the new belt is going to be stronger than equivalent ilvl belt on release?

[signal temple]

When does that belt come out anyway?

[hybrid garden]

Tues

[signal temple]

It got uber-buffed, last I heard

[hybrid garden]

But also time gated because of course

[signal temple]

I know over in Ravenholdt it's incredible, according to sims.

And they have some insane simmers over there

[olive cloak]

Currently in runed crest prison, so Spamming 6's until the deed is done. For the most part, I'm tanking for quicker queues.

Once I'm going higher, will Elune's chosen be fine, or do you need to be in 10-12's for it to kick on? Seems like it needs longer, bigger pulls

[pseudo merlin]

10s is fine

[scenic mist]

it will be BIS

cause blizzard wants it to be BIS

and if it's not straight up BIS, it will be buffed to be BIS

"on release" is a tough one, cause the belt power will be ramping

[queen tinsel]

How should i sim for M+ droptimizer,dungeon slice?

[lofty depot]

no

[scenic mist]

it's discussed in the FAQ section of the compendium guide in pins

[lofty depot]

learn to mdt sim or do lazy and 1t5m

[fiery harness]

Can we get the new belt already?

Or it’s in the next patch

[lofty depot]

new patch

[scenic mist]

this next reset, so tomorrow for NA and the day after that for EU

[lofty depot]

not tomorrow

[scenic mist]

yeah yeah whatever icba knowing where the sun is

[fiery harness]

So is there a new raid?

[lofty depot]

no

[scenic mist]

no

[lofty depot]

the new raid is 11.2

[scenic mist]

belt is 11.1.7

[lofty depot]

next patch 11.1.7

new raid in august

[fiery harness]

We just gonna have a new belt or they gonna give us a new island like siren island

[dense steeple]

just the belt

[fiery harness]

Thanks for answering me btw

[lofty depot]

like every patch there will be new quests and shit

not an island tho

[dense steeple]

"Ultimate bullshit delves" is the theme

[fiery harness]

I was so lost

[scenic mist]

no new zone, but belt will be kinda like cyrce circlet, you'll have some work to do to upgrade it

[fiery harness]

So gonna have new delves

[dense steeple]

No

Think of it like weve been doing heroic dungeons

[scenic mist]

just new flavors of delves, "supercharged"

[dense steeple]

And now theyre unlocking mythic dungeond

But in delves form

[fiery harness]

I guess better rewards lol

[dense steeple]

Nope!

Just a belt

[scenic mist]

watch me doing anything other than a lvl 1 delve

[fiery harness]

Tf, so they just give us a mythic delve for nothing

Only harder difficulty lol

[dense steeple]

Yes

[scenic mist]

i'd say the reward for doing these new kind of delves will be the power to better your belt

[fiery harness]

Ah that makes sense. So we have a new chore to do

[scenic mist]

yes

remember to pay your sub

[dense steeple]

You should be done with your other chores so its fine

[fiery harness]

lol not me. This is my first week and I’m just 653 ilvl

I’m farmed by low mythic keys rn haha

[dense steeple]

Smh

Slackin

[eager raft]

that is so based

[pseudo merlin]

[charred widget]

Do we know which thingies we are getting with the belt?

I have no idea what’s new on Tuesday ;-;

[pseudo merlin]

Nothing to start off with anyway, need more item level

[signal temple]

Charged Bolts is pretty nice I hear

[charred widget]

I thought it was 704?

[pseudo merlin]

It gains ilv over time

it's not maxed off the bat

So unless you're only just starting off, you don't have any decisions to make for Tuesday

[charred widget]

It’s 694 tho

Sorry 691

[formal crest]

delete the belt

[pseudo merlin]

delete the belt

[exotic perch]

No delete cryces

My ilvl wont go to 682 its cringe

[pseudo merlin]

delete both and give us legendary cloak from visions

[earnest gorge]

howdy

[exotic perch]

Meowdy

[earnest gorge]

should i change the ring from sirens island?

[exotic perch]

If your sim says so

Listen to the robot

[earnest gorge]

😛

how do i put sockets to the ring that i want to sim

[exotic perch]

Raidbots should have options to add to items

The little plus sign next to the item

[sage yoke]

hello im looking at what i should get with puzzle. Im only 2x away from Mtrack dung trinkets. I dont do Mythic raids so either Mtrack signet or Hero moxies.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9WHBsZynyYyhYYqSrJ2gwq

[lofty depot]

shouldnt matter cuz u get chip in 2 days

get them both dawg

[maiden pasture]

do we get chip? i thought it was week after

[lofty depot]

Uhhh

U might be right tbf

[maiden pasture]

i remember not getting my chip last week cause i fucked it

so this week i got it + 1 chip cause catch up

then 2nd this coming week, 3rd and final week after

ye i only have 1 chip all caught up

[exotic perch]

Next item from chip is in 2 weeks iirc

[vital hound]

just unequip it coward

[pseudo merlin]

yes its in 2 resets

you should have 7, 4 or 1 now

[lofty depot]

Hmm, maff

[pseudo merlin]

thoughts on mog?

[coarse shoal]

Oh, I have a question about this graph, what is it telling me? I'm sorry I'm not familiar with logs and how to read them well.

[lofty depot]

Damage to the bombshell above 80%

Which is what matters the most to make them move

I suppose I didn't check on all the other boomkins, but the difference in damage between u and them seems like they aren't playing correctly

[manic zephyr]

Hot

[pseudo merlin]

[sudden flame]

4 boomkins on stix holy

[coarse shoal]

Thank you again!

[signal temple]

[exotic perch]

its criminal i say

4 at this point is heavy overkill they do no boss dam

[delicate perch]

[gaunt solar]

when dotting all the mobs that the tank is grabbing if I am capping on AP I should starfall even though I have not gone into cd's or my eclipse right?

then back to dotting?

[lofty depot]

Sure

It's in the prio list

[gaunt solar]

🫡

[digital berry]

You want to not be in that situation if it’s avoidable, but it’s not always avoidable

[gaunt solar]

It happened probably twice tonight and was a bit odd

[digital berry]

But also it’s really not that deep

[gaunt solar]

🫡

[neon whale]

anyone down for a log review

[digital berry]

Send it in here but idk who’s up

[dry compass]

For some reason all our EUs seem to run degen hours and overlap with NA daytime

Check back in 4-5 hrs

[round field]

Wrong

My sleep schedule is fine

[jade flume]

Imagine sleeping

When you could be gamin

[upbeat flume]

I'm guessing we'll have an update on that delver's belt when I get home from work tomorrow?

[upbeat flume]

nvm, here I am thinkings tomorrow is tuesday. Meant Tuesday.

[jade flume]

It is tuesday tomorrow

[wispy hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qW6qijCvXybmnmT3NYNmrB is this decent sim for single target?

[jade flume]

Depends on your subjective opinion of what is decent

I sim slightly above 3mil and have most of the gear i need

[fiery harness]

681 craft weapon or 671 heroic best in slot?

[weary berry]

craft

[fiery harness]

ty

i don't have best in slot anyway

[weary berry]

yeah dont use dinars on it

i made the mistake of doing that

[fiery harness]

just someone told me not to craft 681 because "671 best in slot was better"

[fiery harness]

whats dinars

[quiet drift]

Cartel Chip

[weary berry]

p sure crafted is better, sim it

[fiery harness]

nah im just gonna craft it

i don't have enough gilded crests to upgrade

[sudden flame]

need some peopel to respec to feral asap for boss damage

[round field]

Just hit boss as boomkin

No need to respec into idiot spec

[lucid olive]

I sat up playing Minecraft

gg

[muted fox]

gang, is elemental focusing lens a trap?

[pallid bay]

yea..

u're now trapped..

locked in a cage, forced to do less damage..

[jade flume]

Oi how do i do big dam on mugzee and gally

Need to fix looqd logs

[muted fox]

i dont have it yet, sims are saying its aorund a 30k uppy g from acension/binding

[true ledge]

how uh far is the jump in M gally when you dunk the bomb

[muted fox]

but no logs run it

[true ledge]

will a normal jump suffice or

[scenic mist]

No

Why would you want to do it as a druid tho ?

[true ledge]

so what are bears using to make that jump, like im gonna be getting a grip back

it is what it is

were having a tank do the final one

[scenic mist]

Potion that makes you jump far

[true ledge]

potion right

[pallid bay]

mugzee you just push fast, convoke properly so you dont hit adds, you hold 3rd trees so you can voke non-immune add, depending on killtimer you either voke intermission or after jail and send a CA charge in intermission instead

gally who knows

pad

tell your guys to not hit adds ig

[pallid bay]

potion of gust yeah

[true ledge]

ah ok

thats what it is

[pallid bay]

the Z axis is dangeriously high for when you automatically drop the bomb, you could prob do it with WC flap but i wouldnt bet on it for prog

seems annoying

[true ledge]

yeah nah ill just get the potion

[scenic mist]

Then again, i’m pushing the suicide squad strat
Just call for every one to send a dr cd and jump to the void, slam the bomb and explode

[true ledge]

lol

[scenic mist]

(Does work since the nerfs)

[true ledge]

yeah healers arnt our strong point so

or DRs i should say

[scenic mist]

Have everyone healthpot before

[pallid bay]

the big issue is the elevation really, if you drop below the height of the platform you drop the bomb and you wont deactivate the coil

[scenic mist]

The key point is having your 4 previous bomb carriers not dying to the boom, they are the ones needing dr

[jade flume]

I never bothered outranging adds on the zee

But i guess i should

[true ledge]

think itl b a hard sell to the RL lol. so do you just jump then pot to get the height needed

[pallid bay]

yeah its easy

[scenic mist]

Yes
Same goes for goblin jump btw
Run to the edge, jump, and press

[true ledge]

alrighty easy tyvm for the info

[pallid bay]

you just voke from the corner and WC back with a full AP pool

[true ledge]

hopefully we get it this week :>

[scenic mist]

If you can get a slowfall from a nearby mage

It’s added security

[scenic mist]

Voke non immune add

When damage to them arent going to the parse

Tf

[pallid bay]

yes

you have no alternative

[scenic mist]

I mean

You can just not delay

[pallid bay]

either you voke here

you hit boss + 1 non-immune add

[scenic mist]

As damage going into immune or non immune shockers wont change a bit your parse

[pallid bay]

at this point u have 4 adds

no way to outrange any

if you do fast push you could voke start intermission

and at 5 min

if your fight is that long

[scenic mist]

I remember a great man saying « who cares about Wraths going haywire »

[pallid bay]

i wouldnt say haywire so wasnt me

[scenic mist]

You just did tho

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laughing-gif-4061075348667817765

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/told-ya-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-see-gif-25925165

[true ledge]

😮 fuck jus relized this was balance chat looool MB

[pallid bay]

we're smarter than the rest of the specs anyway

[scenic mist]

We do know how to bear form

[true ledge]

welp got the info required :p thanks loool

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laughing-gif-4061075348667817765

[lucid olive]

Need buyers and your team to not spec any AOE talents to get a parse on Gally gg

[pseudo merlin]

this entire tier just feels like parse cheesing

I hate it

I hate it so much

[vale pebble]

always been

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah but not THIS bad

[pallid bay]

even worse

u're just coping or have bad memory gg

[vale pebble]

^

[pseudo merlin]

the latter might be possible

[vale pebble]

people are complaining about 1 shocker bot this tier

dddddd

[pseudo merlin]

I'm primarily worried about immune shockers and bombs eating my dmg

super fun

[scarlet tapir]

Me when i dont get 4 full moons in convoke on shocker bot

[vale pebble]

bring back rygelon parsing

[pallid bay]

warlocks abusing some shit in intermission

boomkins getting told not to press starfall

[vale pebble]

yea they were snapshotting

necrolord

or something

they were swapping covenant

just to abuse on that fight

[pallid bay]

sennarth degen dathea degen broodkeeper degen rasz intermission degen

idk if there was anything interesting in aberrus tbh

[vale pebble]

zskarn?

nelth?

assault was shot week1 so we dont count that

sark going inside/outside

suicides

[pallid bay]

amirdrassil was tindral roots fyrakk adds igira spears ig

[vale pebble]

add padding on sark

[pallid bay]

ulgrax intermission..

rashanan before they remove adds

[pseudo merlin]

[pallid bay]

ovinax..

[pseudo merlin]

when did they fix ulgrax

[pallid bay]

ansurek as well skitterlings or w/e

[pseudo merlin]

pretty late right

[pallid bay]

yeah

[wispy hawk]

Can you share your sim pls?

[scarlet tapir]

I sim about 3.3M

[wispy hawk]

As boomie?

[jade flume]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5DjqmB7Bkk625yTetJSiWK

Im missing some socklets and some stat upgrades still

But got most of it

[wispy hawk]

[scenic mist]

.

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[jade flume]

Well im a healer main lol

I dps most of the time now tho so could swap that out anyways

Since we 3 heal everything anyways

[scenic mist]

swap that to what ?

(only 1 good answer)

[jade flume]

Crit for bigger sim

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-memoji-gif-23490017

[jade flume]

I aint doing mechanics anyways so i dont move

[scenic mist]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nCFDmYoHqrfsbNgfR4onYy

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pdhnCbvfudqd8FZUpf6xN8

one of these is fast as fuck

the other is a lame crit enjoyer

no way this gem is anywhere close to worth it on a balance druid

[round field]

all i see is 10k dps loss

[scenic mist]

you cant see a +10% ms

cause i'm too fast

[round field]

watcha moving out of bud?

what mechanic

[scenic mist]

all you see is after image

[scenic mist]

every mechanic

10% ms is 10% less time moving, always

[jade flume]

Tbh 10k is less than i thought

But i lost rank 1 to less than 1 dps difference tho

So im scarred for life now

[round field]

ms is

so fake stat

[scenic mist]

rank1 on a boss is worthless
all that matter is rank1 allstars

[round field]

nothing a wild charge doesnt fix in this raid

[scenic mist]

and you won't lose rank1 allstars to a crit gem

[round field]

thats where ur wrong

[scenic mist]

gally has you running around a lot in p1

more than WC can carry

[jade flume]

Ye, but i wont have it eitherway tbh

[round field]

wrong

[jade flume]

Can at least crit more

📈

[round field]

are u sure about that

[scenic mist]

maybe you're right

i should've gone with the crit

[round field]

correct

[winter tapir]

would have made the difference

[jade flume]

Not even 100% avg smh my h

[scenic mist]

cause OAB

sending everything on the assistants

[jade flume]

Man oab is a bitch

[scenic mist]

cringed my boss parse

[jade flume]

Its cucking me on priest too

99+ on everything and 80 on oab

Gg

[round field]

i keep getting

assassinated on sprocket

every week

[jade flume]

Press a personal buddy

[round field]

a melee put a drill on me in stack...

[scenic mist]

nothing a wild charge cant fix, huh ?

[jade flume]

Man i pulled sprocket in stix talents

We wipes at 0.1%

God bless

[round field]

ive done that before aswell

[scenic mist]

let me guess

because an unidentified rooster walked on the wrong mine ?

[pseudo merlin]

jesus lmao

[jade flume]

Nah, was some crazy drill situation happening

Wasnt me tho, im a good boi

[round field]

sylvanas was better

still lost to fluup

[jade flume]

I remember in nathria

There was a priest that did such heinous shit

He got banned from warcraftlogs

And had all logs removed

[pallid bay]

gg..

lost to another MS enjoyer

man my sprocket is still ass

whats the trick to sprocket parsing

[scenic mist]

??

i showed 11.1

[pallid bay]

gg

[jade flume]

Boss dmg padders...

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-well-then-ok-alrighty-julius-gif-14693618

[jade flume]

One armed bandito is killing me

[scenic mist]

is this healing or damage ?

[jade flume]

Ealing

[scenic mist]

healing parses are the pinnacle of padding

if you ask me

[jade flume]

Kinda, we dont really do anything crazy in my guild tho

[scenic mist]

get assigned the right ramp timing, ggs

[jade flume]

Everyone does the same shit tbf

Its just mostly about not overhealing bosses

[scenic mist]

not if you have 2 discos

[vital hound]

do i suck

ig i suck

[jade flume]

If u have 2 discos then u ask ur rl to swap a spec

[scenic mist]

lmao show me assistant damage on this OAB pull

[jade flume]

Because aint no way

[vital hound]

@pallid bay i think sprocket parsing is kill time

like if it times with a cd

[pallid bay]

thanks sheep

ill try a better killtime

[jade flume]

Just git gud

Or git bad if its too fast

[vital hound]

its rng

is what im sayin

gooseman

[pallid bay]

tonight is last night of parsing

on reset its ahk 1 button

[vital hound]

[scenic mist]

better than feral prison to show your rl you can do it

get me out

btw playing melee on this tier is an absolute joke

sprocket is a patchwerk boss

[vital hound]

yea its insane

[jade flume]

Can drop the this tier part

[vital hound]

just stand next to boss

you could argue that tindral had some stuff

but thats about it

[scenic mist]

even fyrakk was hot

lots of swirlies in melee

[vital hound]

just move

what else are you doing

[scenic mist]

snapshoting dots dude

[vital hound]

[scenic mist]

i see green numbers on my HUD

time to get some snapshot value

[jade flume]

Heck feral

[scenic mist]

Fore wa is so goated i swear

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-pee-funny-cat-gif-436236211739437212

[sudden flame]

holy rank one bandit you're owning

zero padders in the group or what

[vital hound]

not really

i was the only one

doing st

[sudden flame]

classic

[vital hound]

ill take funny number tho

[sudden flame]

only time i got a good parse on bandit was because we didnt have a dev evoker that week

as soon as there is one yeah goodluck

[vital hound]

yea we had really good add dmg on prog

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/uwu-gif-10892930391485888472

[vital hound]

so i just swapped into st

[sudden flame]

i got a 0 parse on bandit prog lmao

[vital hound]

based

[royal zenith]

yes

[jade flume]

0 is a very aesthetic number

More than 100

[sudden flame]

me and the boomkin are swapping roles next reclear im going boomie he is going feral

sprocket gonna be a disaster for sure if im on range

[jade flume]

When u drill ur homies tell them to open eyes and be aware

Always works

[sudden flame]

[quiet drift]

This is so real

I still remember losing r1 to Augment rune diff 🤑

[rich jewel]

Get good

[scarlet tapir]

Just play on melee

[sudden flame]

[scarlet tapir]

Nah its a joke im playing deva

[scarlet tapir]

I always play melee on that fight. Only go far if i have bomba

[pallid bay]

Play silly spec with 100 parses..

[rich jewel]

link 3.7 mil sprocken bich

[jade flume]

Is aug back fluup

[delicate perch]

yep login

[rich jewel]

[jade flume]

Maybe its time for looqe to make a comeback

1 trick aug wonder

[pulsar kite]

fellow gamers, anyone got a wa or plater mod for changing the colour if moonfire and/or sunfire is applied?

[scenic mist]

it's not really recommended

[quiet drift]

huh

[scenic mist]

hence we use to not play with this, hence you might not find any help here

[delicate perch]

markers changing nameplates gigabis

[scenic mist]

i'd argue overwriting priority based coloring is suboptimal

https://wago.io/ak3iS95aa

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drinking-water-sprinkler-cute-acting-cats-gif-2956221476473120606

[delicate perch]

almost always a marker mob will be prio

can't think of any pulls this season it's not

[quiet drift]

Mobs are dotted 98% of the time

[round field]

or

you can be

not an idiot

and just make it

[delicate perch]

wrong discord for that

[round field]

go back to priority coloring when they have both dots on them

thoughts?

[quiet drift]

this

[torpid jungle]

The guild and I have start prog on Gally last night - I am finding there is a lot of movement and I'm not casting enough. Have people got any advise on this? or is it just a case of get good?

[quiet drift]

-the flame

[round field]

i mean

[delicate perch]

there's like 0 unplanned movement in gally

[round field]

cant expect much

from a movement speed gammer

[scenic mist]

i don't believe this achieves the intended goal of seeing quickly if you're missing dots

[vale pebble]

This -the useful stuff and just the flame

[round field]

it does?

[pallid bay]

This but -iqni

[delicate perch]

ya I think you're not understanding what he's suggesting

[scenic mist]

you'd still have many different colors in you pull

[delicate perch]

ya so dot em all

[round field]

no?

press sunfire

colors all

click on colors with moonfire

done

idiotproof

[delicate perch]

they're a keystone though

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[delicate perch]

kinda too late

[jade flume]

Anyone knows good musicals

[delicate perch]

nope

[pulsar kite]

I go into a key after asking that question and come back to this

[pallid bay]

Just don't do keys

[pulsar kite]

mood

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/just-house-totally-duh-gif-23663188

[scenic mist]

10min key
forgot to dot some mobs ig

[delicate perch]

[pulsar kite]

[delicate perch]

maybe they're just that good???

[pulsar kite]

didnt know you were in my key

[jade flume]

We all are

[pulsar kite]

it was a classic tank dying on the first boss

[scenic mist]

[delicate perch]

have they considered not doing that?

[round field]

was it a vengeance dh?

[delicate perch]

they can't die so surely not

[pulsar kite]

if they could read, they would be mad you said this

[pulsar kite]

yes

[delicate perch]

[round field]

suprised you made it to the first boss

[delicate perch]

how they going to die twice

insane behaviour

[torpid jungle]

so I just need to plan out my movement better - thanks 🤓

[delicate perch]

ya it's basically a dance until you get to afk in your lil safe spot

wild charge giga bis

[pulsar kite]

trust. Im surprised these tanks can find the entrance tbh

[round field]

m+ very bad

log off until raid

go play like

lies of p dlc

or something

[jade flume]

Bamkins are not allowed to speak on difficulty of keys on god tho

[scenic mist]

bombs, random suppression fire, rockets from your mates, mines, ...

[round field]

thats not unplanned...

[pulsar kite]

I just started lies of p after exp 33

[torpid jungle]

that's good to know thanks

[scenic mist]

and even the planned mvt is quite heavy sometimesq, cant just cruse through with ap and wild charge imo

[round field]

ur just bad at pressing wasd

[delicate perch]

idk I just yeet ahead

enjoy my fire path bozos

[quiet drift]

Fighting trash mobs in Lies of P is worse than m+

[round field]

Just run past them

[quiet drift]

But I need the collect every single item otherwise ill lose it

https://tenor.com/view/losing-it-losing-mind-gif-3680852910504935447

[round field]

But they dont drop items

Just loot behind the corner or something

[digital fjord]

Guys, how good is new belt for us??? Any feedback?

[obtuse nimbus]

Is dungeon slice not recommended for balance druids?

[scenic mist]

It is not
See FAQ section of the compendium guide pinned 😉

[delicate perch]

@vital hound that's a banger

[vital hound]

!!!

[royal zenith]

drink some coffee

you need it

[round field]

yes papa

[pseudo merlin]

or do nothing because this whole system is getting nuked soon

it's so fucking over

[round field]

Like

Its not a bad idea in essence

But i would not trust blizzard to do a single thing properly

[pseudo merlin]

They wont

Maybe over the course of the next 3 xpacs

[royal zenith]

so what

people bitch about the addons way too much

wait and see first

it's gonna happen anyway

and if you can't live without ElvUI, are you really playing this game

[jade flume]

Yes

[pseudo merlin]

Yes

[royal zenith]

wrong

[drifting nova]

addons bad

[royal zenith]

agree with kekkers

for once

!

[drifting nova]

actual laundry list of shit to do better

and blizz is adding the least effective thing to it

[pseudo merlin]

says addons bad

probably plays OSRS with 593 plugins

[drifting nova]

naaa, no way

[pseudo merlin]

stop feeding

[drifting nova]

2 more runs then it's dt2 time, big

I cant wait to see how blizz tries to put the egg back into the shell

[pseudo merlin]

Blizzard is like the jealous husband that breaks down the repairs the plumber called by the wife made, just so he can prove that he can do it too but then the whole kitchen floods

[royal zenith]

I dunno

think their reasoning is completely fair

it's just that they're notoriously bad at implementation

[drifting nova]

and 15years too late

[pseudo merlin]

yeah I know

I can't wait to see what the game looks like post midnight

[drifting nova]

I thought at the time what a game without addons entirely would be like (similar to like ff)

obviously an extreme

[pseudo merlin]

If dungeons and raids are indeed still difficult enough but not in a stupid addon management requiring way, I'm here for it

[drifting nova]

but addons make up alot of the game

addons esp combat ones enhanced boss mechanics over the years

and I highly doubt blizzard will truly go the design way of ff with lit floors

like a dance

[pseudo merlin]

Blizzard can't even figure out cross faction grouping

Like why can't I whisper the leader of a group I'm trying to apply to because it's cross faction

😂

[royal zenith]

I mean, if you copy paste addons we have rn - on top of like classic

it's also just oversaturated

[drifting nova]

"whisper me something" and you're sat here like..I would if I could

[pseudo merlin]

like bro I'm trying to whisper you

but there's no way in the game for me to contact you rn

😂

[delicate perch]

ya the whisper me raid groups are always a banger

[drifting nova]

realistically the minimum to do stuff is what..3/4addons?

[pseudo merlin]

apply to 5 groups, every single one is cross faction leader

Someone wants to trade you loot but you already ported out

Go find a dungeon to go into so you can trade

[royal zenith]

a shitton is nice-to-have

[pseudo merlin]

[drifting nova]

I mean lfr raid is doing the raid

the added ones are mythic exclusive

[royal zenith]

I think I'd only really need to install BigWigs, and need some way of tracking cooldowns

if you really want to trim it all down

[delicate perch]

I think blizz will either cook insanely hard and fix the addon situation, or cook a little too poorly and ruin the game for current players

but both of those are way better for new players