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Says who?
<-
Whats ur score
don't need score to check logs of those "high rio boomies" you're talking about
or watch their vod and see what they're doing
Maybe you should check this one
still not seen any proof of this
ah we're feelycrafting
Aight, thats all i needed to hear
yeah every high rio boomie is doing it man didn't you know
every high rio boomie = this one rando
blud thinks his opinion matters cuz he depletes 400 keys a season and times a few
Link the log
its dwilkz top motherlode
i just linked said picture to troll u cuz dwilkz is a viber and does w.e. hje wants
and hes a top boomkin rio gamer
i checked the top like 15 boomie keys to check before i responded saying "this is not true"
cause aint anyone doing allthat
the only ones who enter eclipse before pressing incarn are doing it before spreading dots so they can still enter Incarn with 2 Dreamstates
love the "any high rio boomie is doing it"
still have not had any reason why minmaxing an extra Firmament is valuable
Firmament does piss damage
jsut cuz ur doing it, and u have high rio. doesnt mean ur correct
the AP buff is completely irrelevant when Starfire is 50% of your damage
and you're overcapping during your Starfire cast enough with all the random dmg procs
surely he knows its reduced dam at 6
and its just a boundless thing
and I asked for proof hoping he could lead to something like a sim
got given feelcraft
A sim wiill show you that entering Eclipse before can be valuable at like 10+ targets since Boundless is uncapped
Lmao, he didnt have the buff active there
yea i said i trolled u with a picture
Good job xd
and it took u 10 mintues to then go look at it and respond when u couldve read what i said
Ppl sorry for starting this somehow lol I don't even know what firmament is xD
type shit
its all good, this was entertaining
its ok, its just an m+er that thinks hes better than everyone else cuz he no lifes and depletes 400 keys a season
giga chad energy
All g bro, sorry for you you get info from someone who is doing weekly no leaver + 12
solid parse bud
And gains score from it
you stop damage for 5 minutes or
crazy work
What
Cause keeper plays firmament
Its from the 21log you were flexing
he means if you have Parting Skies you should enter Eclipse first to get a double Firmament from it
well this was fun, back to minecraft
its honestly impressive the amount of them that just dont use their buttons
But do you really overcap that much fury that an extra fury of elune is not useful? Again no idea I'm literally alt gaming in 7-10s yet, just wanted to know
globals, the damage is piss, and getting more starfires in cds
you will also gain that FoE on the Eclipse after your Incarn ends
But not with your trinket ig
and what is more valuable there
cuz the trinket doesnt increase the starfires u would other wise press?
a wimpy FoE or 2 faster Starfire casts
if 2 faster Starfire casts in your cooldowns means you get an extra Starfire cast in total inside your cooldowns
is the reduced effectiveness FoE better
foe reduced at 6, starfire reduced at 8
gg..
What muppet 1 and 2 dont understand is the dmg you gain due to more Starfalls
But maybe you dont need that in +12
Literally no idea I don't know well yet what hits harder or what's worth or no
why is arctic harassing this person
an extra Starfire in Incarn generates more AP than Firmament
shut up mustard
lmfao
i almost got timed out
pls dont because whenever someone else gets timed out i randomly get one too
thats a banger Starfire cast
and you're world rank 2000
ye but mines from before turbo boost
blud spams keys all day
any score earned after turbo boost is fake
hes a giga chad
whats the over/under he was an spr or aug main
you feel proud of yourself and your achievement
and the first thing you do
is go ego someone in a discord
Your attitude is what got is this far lil bro
based imo
i asked for proof
it's not enough to feel good about yourself, others must feel bad about themselves
you disagreed with what i said
its funny he cropped the only dungeon he has a top 10 log on
u couldnt do a 21
based
I'm progging mugzee. Do yall bother to starfall the adds or just pump into boss during P1?
i dont even think u could do a 20
not really worth Starfalling them no
druid even more op
you can if you want to but I wouldn't do it on prog
just bear form stuff
nahhhh i dont think so
ye thats why ur mad rn
thanks. I'm not but wanted a logic check
Disgusting idea
Why have healers if I have to go bear form
so true
Aight lets look at prog kills with dmg stop
Muppets
@teal sphinx
I missed the entertaintment of the night it seems
Stop damage get bad parse obviously
Isnāt everyone getting green logs on mugāzee and oab??
same 
mines grey idk what that means
Pretty sure you can still 90 parse while stopping dmg easily
just don't stop damage?? one boomkin is NOT phasing a boss 
Donāt tell my raid lead thatās what Iām doing
They out here calling for stop at 47% like bro nah
But also Iām kinda done tryna parse monkey dps brain on that fight I got my 99 Iām just gonna play to kill fuck doing dmg
just throw out some buzz words that relate to the balance tree and gaslight them into thinking you can't stop damage
Nah they onto me I top the meters too often gotta reel it in
Ummm donāt think so
How will you do damage if you stop!
best part of mugzee prog is pressing trees and they don't refresh moonfire on the boss a single time
Convoke add

question for bis usage on mugzee ik we send hoc with convoke, and bis with the 2nd alignment at 40 seconds then hoc with 2nd convoke, do i just send bis with one of the trees either at 2:45 or 3:30 or hold for the next alignment at like 5 minutes
im guessing the trees at 2:45 so its up for alignment at 5 minute
yeah that sounds good
@lucid olive whats your io
i only need 2 more 15s for resilient!
yea ur a bozo
okay you're getting double dose of cringe later
are you still playing na
trying to get better and reupping dots outside of eclipse so that way i dont dot during alignment too
or did you get up
what else is fucking new
i barely log on eu
o
think i'm gonna log on NA when i barely can be arsed logging on main
guild wants to plan a raid roster for MOP so i boosted a druid
I like it
holy

Peak frostmourne gaming right here
surely not
hey, may I ask whether drink is better than wax for balance spec?
I have h drink and M wax
what did the sim say
some guy told me that h drink is way better. while the sime told me it is wax
Are you gonna listen to some guy or a magical robot that maths it out for you
some guy for sure, they would not lie
what else is there to do
I have no idea, as wcl shows balance should not have many crit while the sim says crit is good. I have 18% crit for now

@lofty depot
Isnāt the wax thing versatility
Oh my god
yes
they're both not bad, jug generally gooderer though
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
for sure. but I have no jug at all. š
you could simply purchase it
I wish I could. But I had no BIS and House of Cards -- I purchased them already. That's awful.
farm every week and got nothing

whats a good 684 belt
The delve belt next week

so keen to delves!!!
think so ya
yea we have to
don't think it's many
weekly upgrades for a few weeks
from what I skimmed you can do t1 if you want (insane to do higher if t1 works)
yea thank god
4 I guess. Blz loves 4
i dont think ive done higher before
LMFAO imagine they just slam a hotfix (now requires t11 delves)
get me out

what language is that

Finding another piece to craft for embellishment sucks I donāt wanna lose 3 ilvl š
Stupid borrowed power lookin ass
you'll eventually gain ilvl

fix the game jagex
When using Lunar Calling (no solar eclipse but stronger starfire) is it better to use starfire in single target whilst inside of a celestial alignment window due to more damage as well as reduced fury of elune cd from lunar amplification? Or do you Wrath? Since celestial alignment is the only way to have solar eclipse
starfire
Gotcha. So wrath is 100% just pressed to proc lunar eclipse

Incredible, cheers
@lucid olive I swear this should be another FAQ entry in the compendium
Everyday we answer this
This only helps if people read the FAQ
(They don't)
Call me clueless but i believe many do
Or rather, i wanna believe
they do.
Why read when u can ask here

@lucid olive @delicate perch
An item in the Other Items category. Added in World of Warcraft: The War Within. Always up to date with the latest patch (11.1.7).
Do you have tracking on the website to see how many people view the website @jolly delta
Would be interesting to see
degen tech is back
login

its around 100k
per month
Kinda insane tbf

what would goop think of this

yeah
but that is at launch
I think expac launch was ~150k, 11.1 ~90k
that is not-unique visitors iirc so do a 70% of that for unique
I visited 10x a day so yeah...
Need to make it 20x clearly.....
So true
Is disc belt going to be bis or can I upgrade my mythic track belt?
No point to not upgrade gear, you have unlimited crests
It will be bis, just maybe not in the first week
It's going to receive some massive buffs
200% buff day before release 
Is there any possibility for circes to stay bis due to the mastery modifier of the gem?
I mean next season
It's already not bis in any scenario now
Ah you mean the amplification on a new higher stat baseline?
Yeah
I highly doubt that
Thank u. So what is bis gear currently for balance?
BIS and jastor and moxie (mythic track)
the rest you just sim
as always, rely on simming and ignore weights/prios/bis lists
HOC too probably
Thank u. BIS as bis implies that it is at max ilevel right?
Yeah only on mythic track
Thank u. Cause 681 crafted Simms higher than 671 BIS
Yeah
Hi! Druids playing in the 17-19 bracket, please advise me. In Cinderbrew, do you apply dots to small mobs in the first pools?
that's a sim angle
Jastors and sim
Thanks

st ec replaces a fair bit
ST you need some pretty cool belts/boots
0.7% wipe on mugzee yesterday š hello Gallywix today! Haven't progged last boss of mythic in YEARS
Gally is a trash ass boss
Mugzee feels quite easy boss after all the nerfs and players getting buffs. Don't understand how we have over 100 wipes but still feels a bit easy for a "hard boss" š
Well yeah itās a hard boss but youāre brute forcing it
It was always just a number check boss
After so many buffs and nerfs it is quite free
I'd say 90% of our wipes is from blowing bombs too quickly and failing to get all soak rings
But I guess tonight is the night
š
Wild one _ With details tracking interrupts. With Solar beam.. Is saying a lot less than the cast I'm obviously using - However details, I assume doesn't account for the area affected as well ?
Do i need more button presses. or more effective ones?
you need to use it while having a mob that is casting as your target
the "silence" aoe does not count as interrupts there
I thought so - There's no way to find it out right - like stops or something ?
Purely numerically it's looks like i've done nothing
logs might track them better but not really sure on that one, but you get +1 on details if you beam a mob while casting at least
Correct but i'm getting into "Discussion" with people saying im not interupting.. but if there are 20 mobs stacked my beam silences them all regardless or not if it interupts?
regardless
Guys, how do I see that timeline with spell icons cast during encounter on log? That u usually post here
click casts then timeline basically
Ever comparing Boomie kicks is dumb
that is what i showed you
80% its used as group stop
Oh, I thought the graph was the timeline thing. My bad, Iām on phone atm and couldnāt check. Thanks !!
Btw any specific plater mod recommended to track which mobs have/donāt have each dot?
I use jundies
If ur looking for those casts, it's in the timeline tab, then the casts tab underneath it
Yeah I found it š thanks guys.
did you check CC rather than interrupts?
might be there
But also if you have to defend your kick usage to the people you're playing with in this way you probably have different problems
tell them that if they just simply open their eyes they will see that mobs are in beam and not casting because of it
Why do they even need to use details to know if youāre using beam
Yeah - main issue wasn't me but a mage had 1 over all for the dungeon - admited he didn't know how the kick fior druid worked
More about the data to be like he it shows up here instead of here..
Hello guys what i should do to get heroic best in slots or to craft 678 staff and to buy house of cards?
for a new char
i have eye of kezan hc and mister lock-n-stalk hc for trinkets
Sim it
Craft a weapon
Have same dmg
681 craft should be better than heroic
I craft with ascension or is smt else vetter?
yeah that's one of the options
Sim 5minutes not 1 minute and embellishments barely matter as long as you have something
Ascension slightly better for raid
In logs you can check enemy debuffs and see the solar beam debuff
embellishments you'd have to sim depending on your use case. Linings are more popular for m+ not raid

I want for m+
I mean I'm getting the distinct impression a mythic best in slots isn't on the table for OP
I think if youre crafting wep u just always go Ascension

Ya
its just less sparks used on crafting shit, don't think crafted 681 with ascension + armor banding is particularly better than crafted 681 + 2x dawnthread
embellishments in general are kinda piss this expansion anyway
Kekkers gets it
Hey guys, new to moonkin and i've got the mace from OAB and I've got 2 questions : should I macro it with Incarnation in ST and with Convoke in AOE ? How does the maccro works because i've tryed /use and / cast and none of them work the associate spell ? Thanks a lot for your answers š
you do
highest priority is using HoC or Priory with Incarn
then use BiS with Incarn or whenever its available
Perfect thanks very much
The most simplest thing would be to just put in incarn macro with trinket, but make sure trinket is before it so it gets prioritisee
So you could do something like
./use 14
./use 16(not sure about number for weapon)
Keep in mind that wont necessarily be always fully optimal but better than not using it
Okay, super clear thanks a lot š
Yeap
how do you decide between dotting everything with sf/mf and saying nah, thats enough ? I heard it is very important to always dot everything, now i heard some skip dotting everything on very big pulls like the 1st one in brewery.
depends how long the mobs will live
and then also depends on key level kinda
you'll always Sunfire everything since mobs are stacked, you can skip Moonfire on some mobs that will die to melee meat grinder in less than 6 seconds
disregarding overalls .. isnt there value in starting to blast the actual pack faster
thanks guys
Just started balance but Iām confused on the whole dotting every mob, so if tank pulls half room in cinder first room you really dot every single mob with sunfire/moonfire before you start doing rotation?
at least every real mob, yes .. the neutral patron mobs are usually in discussion
(not really worth)
Did you know camels can drink up to 135 liters of water over a period of 38 minutes, drinking non stop
thank you
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I feel like almost everything would be dead by the time i tab target and dot everything
the answer to your question was about 2 and a half inches above your question
it always comes down to how long things live really
judging by this it sounds like you're doing low keys, you'll likely be dotting less
for keys, how do you use bis/hoc. It's fine when you have 2 charges up and can just alternate. but what do you do when you don't
Ive only done +12s and above on my dk just made a druid during tw so super new to it lol
on pull you use hoc with first ca and then bis with second charge
then you use on trees moving forward usually
yeah so likely doing lower keys on the druid. That problem will sort itsself out in higher keys. The rules remain the same though, based on how things live.
yes
you don't take tree's in keys
sorry, derp. Meant FOE
like you send with any damage amp
it's not going to line up properly
so you just have to send it
did you look at the compendium yet ? https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium
Don't tab target
Use a mouseover macro for moonfire, do that on all real mobs and then sunfire once when they're grouped
why ppl starfall if starsurge does more dmg?
Starsurge hits one mob, starfall hits everything within a huge area
If surge does X and fall does 0.5x, they're doing the same damage on 2 targets and fall is doing more on 3+ targets
Even if the tooltip says the number is lower, the context matters
yea but its like 0.02x cause u can just press another starsurge next global
its not 0.02x otherwise we wouldnt be playing starfall on 2 targets no?
that's what I'm sayinnn
did you put the sioux in?
just more starsurges
i didnt
oh, cherokee enjoyer I see
not how it works
I wish the treants casted starfall tbh
what
is this one serious
this is a bit right
I don't think it's a bit, but I'm struggling to construct how to phrase this in simple enough terms
are you english or not
whats the past simple of cast
illiterate
Kekkers
Btw Vinter you wrongly used Casted in the compendium
It's both
fuck
Casted and cast are both valid past tenses in different circumstances

There is only 1 usage for the word casted in the English language and it is the following:
- Being assigned to a caste in the indian cast system
incorrect
yeah uuhh thats definitely why I used it in the compendium
outside of this context the english language does not use the word casted
i mean
usage defines meaning
ok what if u just said "previously casting" instead
Here we go back into the debate of "does the dictionary or use of the language determine the language"
Nobody uses casted correctly, so within the next decade we will definitely see it just being changed
That's how language works, that's true
While the dictionary appropriate use is cast, casted is more consistent with verb conjugation elsewhere in the language and it's totally understandable
I don't disagree with that
Hi! Druids playing in the 17-19 bracket, please advise me. In Cinderbrew, do you apply dots to small mobs in the first pools?
But it's still wrong
You dot the targets that live long enough for the general dot rules to apply
there's really no reason to ask this question on a case by case basis because you always default to the rules. With exception of like targets that don't require any damage or whatever.
Yes to every pull in every dungeon
did you change it already because I can't find it anymore and I'm starting to question my own sanity
Maybe you should've casted your accusations more carefully
Wrong!

from jewish to paladin, unlucky downfall
just made me remember my favourite old word that 90% of people say is always wrong
Out with it then
that's a good one
No I didnt
This is like a genuine pet peeve of mine so I know for a fact that I saw it
Is ctrl F fucky on the site
no its not
If you want I can send you early drafts whenever I update the Compendium for a new patch and you can proof read it
Normally have @vital hound help me with it, but more heads is always good
Do you think blizzard reads compendium when they program the one-button rotation
Doubt it
I've heard that for some classes it genuinely sucks?
So I wonder what it's based on
You'd expect the 1 button and their budget hekili to pull from the same source right
Have to figure their internal play testers for each spec write up the APL for the engineers to program in?
Do blizzarrd read
ackshully
But most of their internal "spec specialists" are pretty mid apparently
that'd be something
Like there's nothing wrong with working together with the community
there is
They definitely do exist
Clearly we're doing a lot of things better
A guy from an old guild of mine got hired onto that team
I'm talking about people who have verifiably meaningfully contributed Kekkers
not people like you and I

no shit. really?
I've been cross referencing their ret pala balance with WCL data for the past 2 years
And I found like a 99% match between buffs/nerfs and 50th percentile HC logs

I figured that's what they were doing for balance changes
@jolly delta I'm so sorry. I forgot I actually checked out the cat page for a minute too.
Got them mixed up
bitch do I look like a cat
I mean
complain to @loud kettle
Thought I was going crazy for a minute there
I guess I did in fact go crazy for a minute, considering I was trying out feral
Wait can you actually do that
You had to know this was coming
Eventually
Do you need enough damage to 1 phase
Or is there a spot where you can only get 1 stack
no they just tank the debuff
damn
they have 49 stacks by the end
Well like I said, most of that team is apparently pretty mid
And at least at that time I don't think every spec had a dedicated person
I mean how fast are the cauldron top kills now 3 minutes?
Last I heard the guy play testing moonkin was a mage main who got moonkin added to his basket
they have to be around 4 mins
Which.... Checks out
For balance in the past it was one person handling multiple specs yeah. I think in SL the person doing balance was also on SP.
right
If destro and sp can why cant we
Because we have no defensives
I mean Destro and SP don't rely on the bosses being close enough
I wouldnt dare ask
We wipe on vexie still
Every week there's a mandatory 1 vexie wipe
and then bandit mugzee gallywix 1 shot
and then 1 hour on sprocket

We've reached the point where we just send every healer cd and live the full energy long enough to get the last bike in


No coping please
How do you guys play Stix? Go into Lunar Eclipse when adds are there, and Solar for the rest of it?
And what about dotting?
you just drop trees/inc then spam starfall really
can dot ones if they are really far but its typically better to spam starfall
if you get lucky you get the magical 10 starfalls in a row
Aye okay, thank you! Been tanking this tier, but we fianlly got CE, so I am now allowed to play Boomie instead hah
I would just stay perma Solar tbh
Solar even during Starfalling on adds?
most adds wont be stacked for starfire actually
and press wrath anyway
Yeah like Starfires wont hit anything anyways
So its just gonna be starfall damage
fair fair, so just play the fight as Solar, but have Incarn + trees ready for adds
Dot up if they're far away, otherwise dont worry about it
need 3 targets to be hit by Starfire for Lunar to be worth it and most of the adds either die to melee meat cleaver before you can get value from Lunar or are out in africa
and yeah just wait for the boss to start the electromagnetic sorting cast
then treants -> incarn+starfall
and then slam starfall
oh damn
never seen that site before
with bounteous bloom you'll generate so much AP you won't really have time for other casts
bounteous bloom on pull is a blast man
can be worth it to try and fit a Wrath cast in to spend Dream Burst
machine gun starsurges for like the whole duration
it's a fun talent to play but my god it sucks in the context of the rest of the hero tree
thats just a symptom of our hero trees being garbage
and the spec tree being lackluster
eventually always desyncs from your other cooldowns and makes you unable to spend dream burst
too little interactions tied to spending AP so no real value in generating a buttload of it
Does alot of people bind Nature's Vigil to Incarn?
yes
think i have natures vigil macro'd to like 3 different stuff
treants, trinket and CA/incarn
Makes sense makes sense
Gotta get back into this
Still trying to convince my RL we need a boomie
But "What do they even bring to a raid, that you cant do on your shaman?"
Well u need a druid not a boomie
Mark of the wild
shaman brings skyfury tho
RL is One trick Druid tank
huge raid buffs
And we got another Ele Shaman
Then u play shaman
Idk
We already got a shaman tho lol
fuck them haters
Quit game
No boomie at all
Spy is right
So its time to shine and convince him boomie is good
you play the spec that you feel is the most fun
if you arent top 10 in the world play w/e you want man
its your 15 dollars
have fun
yeyeye makes sense
cba changing guilds etc
So im just here for the ride. Cant be bothered pushing higher than 16's anyways, so its just raid logging at this point
Hi, I have a question regarding mythic+ dungeons. I just want to know if I'm doing this right. When we get to a group, I'm entering lunar eclipse, then making sure every one of them has both sunfire and moonfire on them, but also popping starfall inbetween to make sure I don't cap AP. Then once they are all dotted, I am continuing starfall and starfire as normal. Is that the right way to approach a new pack (CDs notwithstanding)?
If u can enter lunar before combat yes
and if I'm not already in lunar, should I dot first, then enter lunar?
Yes
gotcha, ok
You'd only moonfire while things are being gathered up, on targets that live long enough, then a single sunfire when they're gathered up
thank you very much
Where's that, wowhead?
spit no, in the pins called compendium
ah! amazing, thank you. Apologies for not seeing this
oh, this is much more comprehensive than wowhead
That's crazy
jk tettles is the man
how far is the range on moonfire from trees
like if i drop them in the middle of 3 bandit adds, will they hit all 3 before running to melee stuff
some of them might moonfire same one
i usually drop it them on the add that melee is not running to
like if the adds you kill are middle/right, then melee goes right, and i'll drop trees between left/middle
doesn't always work out cause the treant AI kinda sucks but it's what i do at least
the ai sucks your trees sit there moonfiring the shocker add over and over instead of reapplying moonfire to mugzee
house of cards work better with eye or what other trinket for m+?
it works with every trinket
If you stand far enough from gally do you not bait the frontal? Does anyone know
Gally frontal is baited on the largest cluster of people it can hit
if you're standing alone it won't bait on you
Oh tf
Im watching rank 1 parse and he just never moves and the frontal never goes on him
how can i compete hehe
just don't bait it
crazy i guess good to know can just not participate if everyone else does
thats the goal 

Can you PM me the VoD?
If all the melee arent stupid, it will basically always bait on them
Sure, ādimwitā on wcl uploads all his videos
Well youāre watching rank 1 vods
Rank 1 means super lucky with rng and mechanics and tons of greeding
eh idk its not that much luck
hes 200k dps above me im doing a bomb and have 2 more dps in my raid
Gally parsing is also 50% how shit your group is at aoe
You can pad on adds like thereās no tomorrow if they donāt explode in melee
cause i dont die 
"hate being dependable man"
I think i wont do it for this reclear but ye
I did bomb for a couple reclears too
its not like you soak frontals as a moonkin anyway
and the risk of dying isnt that high unless you walk through shit on the ground
i have been doing the first one, its not terrible. just lose some globals picking it up and getting back
Heard rumors that Eclipse will disappear next expansion, no cap.
Thank you random person that hasn't said anything in 9 months
I will take this and spread misinformation now
real lore
but he said no cap
uncapped eclipse?
no cap
No cap to eclipse
just double eclipse all the time
Blessing of the ancient type shit
crazy that mage players perma complain having to hard cast Pyroblast whenever SKB is good that hard casting is cringe
but moonkin has to cast 2 of them bitches every 15 seconds
I hard cast like 20 fireballs a fight
starfire might be the most unsatisfying button in the game, at least it does damage in aoe now
It's hard out here
Both fillers are horrible
give me venythr boomkin levels of haste
š¤¢
where starfire was shorter than a gcd
just make balance druid like it was in MoP, ah yeah mop classic is releasing
bring back cast while moving in starfall
i dont know you anymore
It might be fun later tiers
But man current tier
2s Starfire casts and 13s dots
wtf
didn't you quit right after circle of life and death got removed
or do i misremember
was boomkin punished in raid since venthyrs sins
Lost interest on first talent changes
they tried adding that talent back btw a few patches ago 
based
Eclipse wasn't as cringe when we used Warrior of Elune to go back into Solar
but it's still fundamentally unfun gameplay
Aberrus was based
did that in amirdrassil too
nah amirdrassil had more fun tier set
looking at mugzee logs, some of you ppl are exteremely unethical
smh
(shockbot damage)
hey guys wild question, is there a limit (soft/hard) on how much you can overlap starfalls?
regards, someone who played this spec since mop
ah ok
so just press away? theres no diminishing returns or anything right
the only ethics is the meters
yes just press it
first patch of Aberrus you played FoE and Radiant Moonlight and cancelaurad Pulsar at a certain amount of stacks in opener you could line up every Pulsar with FoE, and then cancelling Starlord was more than a 0.05% gain so people did that too
2nd patch of Aberrus and all the way until TWW pre-patch you played Full Moon instead and just pooled moon charges so you had all 3 in pulsar
and used Warrior of Elune to cycle into Solar so you didn't get turbo fucked having to hard cast Starfire to get back
Forgot the woe cancel
oh yeah true
Atleast Convoke wasnt a button
Big gamer innit
Saving grace
had to cancel warrior of elune cause the cooldown didn't start until you had used all 3 charges
and they fixed that and then changed how some other interactions worked with entering/exiting eclipse
Yea they hate fun
like the old Nature's Grace that would give you haste upon exiting an Eclipse got changed so it didn't proc from getting Pulsar during an Eclipse
Hey long time lurker in here. Was curious if anyone who plays at a higher level is open to being a mentor at all. Currently progging mythic gallywix. Also not sure if this is a good channel to ask this in
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Radiant Moonlight was also bugged where the 2nd Full Moon could get eaten up by Orbit Breaker
Just ask questions and post a log
there's a raid guide on the Dreamgrove website going over some Gally stuff
can also ask questions in here about specifics
how far apart are bandit adds, 1 minute?
Awesome thanks
lorrgs has the timers
yea i was looking but they didn't really overlap adds and trees much
yeah but you get the answer to your question by looking at the timers there
its about 50s between each reward
bandit is very weird you need to find a log that is doing the same order as you, theres a lot of different orders these days with turbo boost gear
Bandit parsing is beyond cringe
spin to win is when the 3 assistants come in, click to show 'reward' and you'll see why they press the buttons when they do
Isn't that just 3 adds too
theyre sending full CDs on pull
depends on the reward
then treants on 1st or 2nd adds when it comes up
then full CDs again when the 5 CC immune bomb adds come
I guess ppl are still doing the cc immune adds
most of the top parses will for sure be playing the cc immune adds
cringe
did ppl actually vote that
is there a list of what they are changing for 11.1.7 on WCL?
not confirmed yet
who cares if ppl pad on mugzee oab on farm
but the playerbase are stupid and will always vote to remove adds or remove bosses from all star
if they want to pad they pad
the mugzee one is weird, with convoke its so annoying those adds even exist
just remove adds from every fight on wcl, every fight is now st
and it leads to people ignoring adds because damage on them doesn't help their parse
like rashanan adds going wild because they got removed
the same thing happened on rashanan
and its going to happen again
stix shouldn't even be remove from wcl(they shouldn't touch anything tbh)
can they remove gally intermission adds too since i don't even get to the 2nd set anymore
would be great
people trying to preserve some sacred integrity in the all star rank
when the 50-60 best players from every spec just private log anyway
more than you think innit
for specs where ppl only run 1 of, 60 guilds aren't private logging
well, 60 are
but thats not the top 60 players
only way to log
also if you're doing the 4m push on mug'zee you don't really need boss dmg anyway
so i wouldn't call convoking the 2nd add set unethical
depending on your players you might even want less boss damage to not push early on the 2nd set of jails
so its actually the most ethical thing you could do
dont most ppl do the 3 minute strat now
Itās cringe because for oab to get a decent parse you have to actively hope your group is hands free st glug glug. Not to mention we donāt do non ccable adds anymore so I just am locked out of anything above like 93
Parsing is fun if it doesnāt involve serious amounts of over the top cringe setups and such
that's just playing the best you can to kill the boss
which is what you should be doing innit
Yeah but playing the best on some fight doesnāt get you a good parse
is it playing the best I can when I stop hitting mugzee to go blow the add up while it takes extra damage when our 3m push timing is a bit tight
That doesnāt feel like the best thing I could be doing
parses value should be to show yourself that you did well on a fight but people just don't treat it like that
and thats unfortunate
Utopian thinking
Itās just natural for it to turn into doing whatever it takes to get big numby
should just add back shit like turbo stacking PI
yes that's what i mean
so the right thing to do would be to stop trying to force some integrity into all star
and just have the can open and the worms frollicking
there is no integrity in parsers
does somebody is cute enough to give me a macro for escaping jails for mugzee ?
We might start attempting the 3min push ourselves too
ask nicely
Youāre never gonna be able to do it with any consistency
just don't bother trying it
let me try it pls ā¤ļø
Boss is tanked too close to the rings typically
Donāt, you will most likely have to hold dps anyway
you have to wild charge on healer at 0.5s of the timer
we kill too fast the adds
do something like
#showtooltip
/cancelaura Moonkin Form
/cast [@NAMEOFHEALER] Wild Charge
i think?
Yes
can probably write that better i haven't bothered
oki got it thank you, I will not try then if you all say it its dogshiet
I appreciate your help guys ā¤ļø
is control the dream still bugged that you need to swap talents after each wipe?
Yes
And no
Sometimes
Just assume it is and always do the talent swap
ok!
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there is like 1 cage of the fight now other than the last one in p2 that you are hard assigned to
if you get the rng of going in that 1 cage, it is what it is
just click boss damage and gg
ye forcing the add pylon on oab and just letting a single player aoe booties is trying their best to kill the boss
what if instead of moonkin it was goonkin and i freaked my shit all over the mobs silly style
if this is what you got from that i don't think you understood what i said
and forcing add pylon and having single player kill them alone is cringe set up
yes so you aren't trying your best to kill the boss
so hows your reply to me
relevant
when we agree
and why does the number on the parse then matter at all
I had a feeling I would have to show up
my man
click these
good job twist you can do it i believe
i dont
believe in urself and u can do anything
Running an ALL Druid heroic raid tonight for fun. Looking for a few more, shoot me a message if interested. Master class raid at 8pm pst.
Thatās what I want! Join me!!!
ClaudeBoom is our overlord
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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jHCmnkvwt6x3zFAy?fight=44&playermetric=dps&type=damage-done
good boss dam log and good overall log
didnt spawn fiery booty adds at all










