balance

[sick cipher]

yep

[lucid olive]

gg

[sick cipher]

still shows the green circle and i have to left click

[lucid olive]

check if these are right

[pseudo merlin]

isnt there some new option in ui options?

ye that

[digital berry]

is there suppsoed to be a space after the /cast?

[lucid olive]

yes

[sick cipher]

there is

[lucid olive]

i just straight copied his macro and it works fine

idk

your character is bricked i guess gg

[digital berry]

[sick cipher]

i coped the cast/cursor part from another one that works just fine

its only force of nature that doesnt work right

[lucid olive]

hit this and go again

(thats a joke)

[sick cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/wayne's-world-wayne-thimbs-up-ok-well-done-gif-15694288732343736292

[lucid olive]

idk

talent into orbital strike

and see if [@cursor] Celestial Alignment works

i'm still positive that you put the macro on the action bar that changes when you shapeshift..

[sick cipher]

nope

its correct on my bars

[pseudo merlin]

did you try ID yet?

[sick cipher]

nah ill try that

[lucid olive]

205636

[pseudo merlin]

we currently have a macro that randomly stops working and swapping to ID works

then ID stops working and swapping back to spellname works

🙂

small indie company

[lucid olive]

actually just

#showtooltip
/cast [known:205636,@cursor] Force of Nature;
/cast [known:202425] Warrior of Elune;
/cast Nature's Vigil

see if this one works

[sick cipher]

ok ya that worked

weird idk

[pseudo merlin]

what a game

[sick cipher]

thanks

[gilded geyser]

hello why best-in-slots bis wep for balance? it is agility

[dusk dragon]

Did you try using BiS by clicking on it?

[gilded geyser]

hm?

I dont have that staff

[dusk dragon]

Oh then yeah there's on use action where it would switch primary stats

[gilded geyser]

u dont need to use it again once you have right stats?

[dusk dragon]

That's to my understanding

I don't have it myself

[ionic oak]

You can keep swapping them

From agility to intellect

[gilded geyser]

gonna check on evoker :p

ah so nice ty :p

[lucid olive]

its not a staff

[mighty mica]

[gilded geyser]

oh man 2H mace xD

[pseudo merlin]

first chip, keys only, what do I buy

moxie?

[lucid olive]

yeah probably

its the best item available from heroic at least

[pseudo merlin]

ye

[lean trail]

so if i get best in slot mythic

what do i do with embellishments

forget about em?

[vital hound]

duskthread/dawnthread/lens

sim innit

[lean trail]

lens for wep

no?

[pseudo merlin]

?

[meager storm]

u can put all those 3 on gear

[sacred whale]

hey guys , i have a question :/
im not sure about this sim

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5sR7TfeE8ixFqdHvLda5SC

what did you think i friend says 10 tar 1,30 for m+

[meager storm]

1t5min or mdt sim

https://wago.io/Yya4XBbl-

[pseudo merlin]

Queues for LFR > very long queue > queues for dungeon > helps tank pull, tank is happy, dungeon is g oing insanely fast > moronic fucking manchild dps start a vote kick behind my back > kicked > DESERTER!?!?!?!?! > my queues gone

Peak game design

And they wonder why people are toxic in this game

[obsidian jetty]

[pseudo merlin]

It was timewalking

things die in 0.1 sec

that's how you play TW dungeons

FWIW the tank literally whispered me that he appreciated it

[lucid olive]

getting deserter for being kicked from queued content is actually stupid

[pseudo merlin]

Like what

Me and the tank were blasting

we didnt need heals

we didnt need dmg

the rest of the group was literal dead weight

So they decide to kick me

Why the fuck does that give me deserter

[lucid olive]

I leveled my warrior in TW a few months ago and I got into a group where 3 premades were just chain votekicking people

[pseudo merlin]

I was literally speed running TW dungeons like 3 minutes per dungeon insta queueing back up

[lucid olive]

I queued as tank, dungeon has killed 1 boss, I spawn at entrance, I walk to where everybody is and I get kicked insta without even getting in combat

[pseudo merlin]

nah that's fucking unhinged

[lucid olive]

then the 4th guy who wasnt premade whispered me and said I was the 5th tank that's been kicked in that group

and said sorry

[pseudo merlin]

Ok so you actually only need 2 votes

WHAT

the other dps in that group

So I was kicked

the tank was chill

this dps was minding his business and chill

So that means 2 people got a vote kick done

????????

[lucid olive]

votekick is fine and i get why it exists but mfer why give deserter

[pseudo merlin]

yeah that's fucking unhinged

And still 2 people is stupid idk

That means the person initiating + one random person just clicking the button purely because it shows up on their screen

[lucid olive]

ravec wanna queue timewalking and votekick randos

[pseudo merlin]

let's fucking do it

there are no repercussions

💤

[lucid olive]

whens your deserter run out btw

[pseudo merlin]

20 minutes

its 3 am im going to bed

[lucid olive]

gg

i should finish this guy soon

[pseudo merlin]

big

I love ww atm

they made it so perfect

asides from the absolutely horrendous gamebreaking bugs

[lucid olive]

i'm just a little burnt out from the game right now or i would have probably started gearing it

turbo boost ruined all motivation to gear alts

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah my WW was like 667

bunch of crafted stuff

was well progressed

I went on holiday for 3 weeks, I come back to turbo boost, and now it takes 3 hours to get into a 10 key

So I gave up

I went from insta invites to 2,3 /8m pugs and +10 keys

To no fucking chance

[lucid olive]

all of these are 662+, but theres no way you catch me doing 30 keys on all of them just do be done with crests

[pseudo merlin]

yeah it's a lot

[lucid olive]

so now i just do warlock, evoker and druid

[pseudo merlin]

Wait isn't there a cross char discount for having a char fully maxed out?

for crests

[lucid olive]

yeah 10 crests each upgrade step

[pseudo merlin]

That's awesome

But it's still insanely expensive even with that

[lucid olive]

my evoker was 661 when turbo boost came out

needed 500 crests or something

[pseudo merlin]

damn

if you have people to play with its easy

thats 25 keys

[lucid olive]

30 for each crafted item from 675 to 681 too

[pseudo merlin]

well

2 more months till patch

(august 5?)

12th season

[lucid olive]

yeah good time to spend on other games

[pseudo merlin]

poe soon

[lucid olive]

i just sank 80 hours into god of war and god of war ragnarok

[pseudo merlin]

oh dope

Ive never played gow

[lucid olive]

finished ragnarok earlier, truly great game

kinda burned out of WoW so figured i should try and dive into my backlog of single player games

thinking of either Cyberpunk or Expedition 33 next

[pseudo merlin]

People are praising Exp33 into the high heavens

[lucid olive]

or maybe I finally give Elden Ring a real try, but last time I turned it off cause I got bored

[pseudo merlin]

idk mmorpgs kind of ruined my willingness to sink time and money into single player games

I havent touched any of the recent great games

[lucid olive]

yeah Expedition 33 looks really sick, and I'm a big Charlie Cox fan

and he's the voice actor of the main character apparently

[pseudo merlin]

might try it at some point

Got 6 need for speeds queued up too

[lucid olive]

thats a franchise i haven't heard of in a long time

didn't Forza just yoink that entire playerbase

I played Horizon 2 a lot back in the day on xbox

[pseudo merlin]

Not super familiar with Forza, that's not an arcade racer is it?

NFS is just arcade racing, IE not real racing

more about the tuning and customisation

[lucid olive]

uuuh its not a realism racing sim if that's what you mean

[pseudo merlin]

a racing rpg if you will

nah

Arcade racing is where you just use arrow keys

Like you could add a steering wheel but it wouldnt do anything for your inputs

[lavish agate]

what to buy with chips for doing keys?

[lucid olive]

the best items

[pseudo merlin]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

[lucid olive]

also in the pins

[pseudo merlin]

HC bis doesn't beat crafted/myth track right

[lucid olive]

right

I think Forza Horizon is more like an arcade racing game than anything else tbh

[pseudo merlin]

ah is it

[lucid olive]

open world exploration element

every version is set to different countries, idk which the most recent one is

[pseudo merlin]

maybe im thinking of forza motorsport

[lucid olive]

yeah maybe

idk i'm not too well versed in racing games tbh but the Horizon games are pretty good

on game pass as well I think

[pseudo merlin]

I see

Steam did this turbo sale on NFS that's why I got em, I had actually quit NFS (used to be my favorite game with underground) at most wanted

But they sold like 8 of them for a buck each

Maybe ill add Horizon to the list

Anyway 💤

[lucid olive]

gn

[green pulsar]

do we fury of elune before going back into eclipse or the first global in eclipse?

as in, the global before the 2 wraths, or first global in eclipse

[lucid olive]

First global in Eclipse

Or last global in Eclipse if it's up

Just cast it off CD but don't spend a GCD on it outside of Eclipse

[sonic pelican]

That means vagabound crafted is better that best in slot Heroic?

[cerulean summit]

idk if it's normal or not, but in 17s I always feel like I'm fighting for my life unless I am playing with a disc priest I really don't understand what it is

it's just like constant bear form to stay alive

haven't had much exp with holy pal, but other healers it def feels that way

[cerulean summit]

why is it that way? Like I get why we would cast it before incarn, but why do we cast it during eclipse instead of before eclipse?

[lucid olive]

You don't want to spend time outside of Eclipse

[lofty depot]

globals in incarn are more important than globals in eclipse jah feel

[lucid olive]

Can think of Elune's Chosen moonkin as a spec with 3 damaging spells and some damage activators, and the activators have distinct priorities for how good they are

Dots are the most important because of your mastery

Then Eclipse

Then the FoE debuff

Then Incarn

And your damaging spells are Starfire/Starsurge/Starfall

[jolly delta]

whats poppin

[lucid olive]

Oh no who woke him up..

[jolly delta]

must do timeline

[lucid olive]

Norway just beat Italy 3-0 in football earlier

How's it feel

[jolly delta]

idk i never watched a single football match

[lucid olive]

L

[jolly delta]

except for the brazil world cup finals

[green pulsar]

does it snapshot the eclipse?

[lofty depot]

its dynamic

[lucid olive]

All your damage is dynamic

[green pulsar]

kk

so first glolal in eclipse, unless incarn then its first global before

[lucid olive]

Yes

[green pulsar]

thank you

[lucid olive]

Assuming that's your first Eclipse in combat I guess

[lofty depot]

i wonder if thats what the prio list says

hmm

[lucid olive]

Cause if FoE comes back like 4 seconds before your Eclipse ends you don't want to hold it

You just don't want to spend any globals outside of Eclipse that's not Sunfire/Moonfire or Wrath/Starfire

[green pulsar]

agreed

ty

[weary berry]

are there any

prepull shenanigans

we can do for keys

[lofty depot]

no

well u could prepot, but shrug

[weary berry]

oki

[little cove]

im assuming mdt sims counts eye of kezan like 100% uptime?

[leaden osprey]

Is there a weakaura that yells at you to starfall? I notice on big pulls I’m tryna moonfire everything and don’t notice I’m at 100 astral power and proceed to cast like 5 more and I can only assume that’s wrong

[lofty depot]

not anymore (as far as i know)

[lofty depot]

could make ur asp bar at like 90% power play a sound

but its a get gud angle

pay more attention to ur bar

[leaden osprey]

Okie dokie. Big gathers are p much the only time I lose track cause looking 948ft into the air to make sure all targets are dotted but I shall just be better

[idle wind]

is a 658 circlet really better than a 681 crafted? seems insane

[ionic oak]

free bis.

if you struggling to live maybe the stamina might be better from a higher ilvl ring

but cyrce more dam

[idle wind]

that would explain murloc then with all the crafted

ty

[iron chasm]

Yeah a higher ilvl ring prob has value in m plus for health
But in raid I haven’t yet been able to out sim the circes on pure throughput

[fading trail]

hi folks. can someone tell me if its normal that i couldnt enter solar esclipse ?

[ionic oak]

you are using eluines chosen

you only go into lunar

[fading trail]

after every eclipse i could only cast wrath to enter lunar eclipse again, but no matter what i couldnt go into0 solar

im totaally new to balance

[fading trail]

ahh ok, didnt know that is how it works lol

[ionic oak]

read Lunar Calling. Bottom left of your hero Elunes Chosen talent tree

[fading trail]

last time i played balance one were altering between those two

[ionic oak]

you do alter between both in Keeper Grove.
elunes chosen locks you into Lunar only

[round field]

Well you dont really alternate you just pick the one you want

Ur not forced to alternate like before

[ionic oak]

^^^ yes

[little cove]

how much uptime is it cause it just sims like fkn crazy for my mdt sims

[formal wagon]

!corruption

awe which corruption everyone running?

[ionic oak]

void rtual

[lofty depot]

Open the html

[terse tartan]

new compendium looks great, nice work team!

[cloud lion]

Closest i get was crit vers ring from bandit, it was 300 dps loss and that is good for stamina u get

[delicate perch]

thanks

[pseudo merlin]

thanks

Any EU +10 carries?

@pallid bay ?

kör

[jolly delta]

dont think anything changed in months but thanks!

[jolly delta]

thanks copilot

whos the druid king here?

[delicate perch]

@drifting nova

[drifting nova]

[delicate perch]

[drifting nova]

good book

(I cant read)

[livid jay]

Guys how good/bad is the new belt for us? Can we sim it yet?

[pseudo merlin]

there's no scenario in which it isn't picked

does how really matter

[delicate perch]

yes

[delicate perch]

think oi (?) linked some sims of it the other day

it's an upgrade of all time

[livid jay]

No, ty

[pseudo merlin]

Question is

How long are we going to play it into next patch

how you doin kek man

[drifting nova]

just reading your new guild

[pseudo merlin]

say it with your chest

[drifting nova]

can I join?

[pseudo merlin]

I'm not sure that would be a good idea

[feral dust]

For some reason a max crafted ring Simms better for me in aoe than circes

[quiet drift]

This is normal

[maiden pasture]

this was linked a few days back

[lucid olive]

That's with belt at 684, I think it goes higher than that after the weeklies are over

But yeah kinda underwhelming

Probably gonna get buffed eventually, but I hope it doesn't so we won't use it far into 11.2

[pseudo merlin]

dunnit go 700?

(+)

[vital hound]

694

[jolly delta]

@vital hound

wanna do some font-work

im probably releasing the alpha tonight

[vital hound]

not tonight

but spam me and ill look tmrw

im bed soon

did you use the font i sent you

[jolly delta]

no it's todo

[glossy jungle]

i hope it's comic sans

[jolly delta]

low prio unforch

[vital hound]

[glossy jungle]

[livid jay]

ok but what is that sim tho

is gamz same ilvl as igni or what 😄

[maiden pasture]

yeah i mean

2.7m

who knows what geaar that bean has

@lucid olive

[jolly delta]

I wonder how much Viserio's website cost

[pseudo merlin]

2.7 is wild

Surely boomie isn't that bad

Also make sure you account for any stat shifts, maybe some gems/sidegrades

[lucid olive]

its my main

the PTR just has a worse APL than live

Can differentiate between them on top gear now, huge

[vital hound]

make 694

[lucid olive]

is that what it caps at

[vital hound]

according to wowhead ya

[lucid olive]

sure

[vital hound]

Awarded from collecting disc fragments inside Overcharged Delves, it starts at item level 678 and increases to 694 over time

[lucid olive]

i don't have to do any of this cause i'm a Splitgate battle royale main now

[sudden pawn]

Belt goes to 699

According to the official post

[lucid olive]

see why would sheep lie to me

[pseudo merlin]

Islanders always lie

[lucid olive]

fucking aussie

but yeah for the belt it's probably gonna be the versatility one

its definitely an upgrade you'll use anyway

[pseudo merlin]

Keep in mind it's also just going to get buffed if it's too underwhelming

classic blizzard

[sudden pawn]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/it-s-electric-power-up-with-overcharged-delves-377173?utm_source=discord-webhook

Official blue post with all the info

[round field]

Wtf

[lucid olive]

definitely an upgrade

[pseudo merlin]

who displays percentages

ew

[lucid olive]

probably depends on your character whether you'll use the versatility, mastery or crit one

not sure if cyrce circlet is working right on mimiron

either that or i messed up, but it doesn't matter

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ikQTL9s6M3ryJQQLrEnrLa

[glossy jungle]

does that belt proc work if we're 45yds away?

[lucid olive]

no clue i haven't gone on ptr and tested them

[glossy jungle]

I trust blizzard QA
They're test that and fix it before release if it doesn't

[lucid olive]

I went on PTR a few days ago but just like the Circlet you need to actually do the content to get the belt and the effects

and I cba doing all that just for the sake of testing it

[glossy jungle]

dw, the people getting paid will test it

[lucid olive]

surely right

[glossy jungle]

no paycheck stealers in that company

nope

[lucid olive]

don't they get paid dirt anyway

[round field]

Doesnt matter

Still too much

[dry compass]

QA aren't the paycheck stealers

The fuckin producers and suits are the paycheck stealers

[round field]

Yea cause there is no one in the qa team to steal checks

[drifting nova]

ion? a paycheck stealer? big if true

[pseudo merlin]

hearsay

[jolly delta]

real paycheck stealers are guide writers like gamz

[glossy jungle]

you're right. they've been perfect. every patch the over the past year has come out without issues. what was I thinking

[jolly delta]

the fact that something gets reported by QA doesnt mean it gets fixed

[dry compass]

QA doesn't have some magical ability to get the engineers to fix shit. They have a pipeline that's higher priority than the public Bug reporting, but beyond that if the suits refuse to deploy the resources to address the pipeline nothing gets fixed

Blaming the slightly-above minimum wage QA staff because they're woefully undermanned and borderline pouring the results of their work into the void is just plain old nonsensical

They're set up to fail

[drifting nova]

qa is like it

undervalued by companies

[pseudo merlin]

first key

(second druid is tank)

ilv 620 😎

[bronze tartan]

how doable is 8 mask visions? I keep dying, got good gear, correct spec, taking group per group 😐 should I just change to guardian?

I managed up to 6 masks in the order of the guide

[orchid ember]

I didn't have any problem with them, especially this week after all the extra tree upgrades

It may not seem like it but you can really take your time with them. You get quite a bit of sanity from the nemesis mask alone

[signal temple]

Are they going to add that final tree node that grants Sanity immunity sometimes after killing things? It was on the PTR

[orchid ember]

how would I know?

I don't work there

[lucid olive]

damn i thought rawfull was lead dev

[pseudo merlin]

this entire game mode is just "find the nemesis mask"

after that its gg

[stone ledge]

Are we able to sim disc belt yet with the api (im bored at work)

[lucid olive]

you can sim it on mimiron

but idk what you mean by api

there's no api involved

[stone ledge]

I’ll wait for raid bots, wasn’t the api on raid bots messed up a few days ago?

[lucid olive]

believe you mean apl

[jolly delta]

[lucid olive]

and that was only for like 10 minutes

also, mimiron is raidbots

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot

its just the version used for PTR sims

[hybrid garden]

Any verdict on the D.I.S.C. Belt in its current incarnation?

[lucid olive]

youll use it

[stone ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/idiot-not-stupid-stupid-supercat126hd-callum-gif-20559832

[grizzled glen]

I've simmed both ST and M+ routes and Moxie HC sims waay higher than Signet of Priory Mythic. Paired with Carved Blazikon. Can it be something I'm doing wrong or does it make sense to run 2x equip trinkets

[maiden pasture]

2 passive is fine, people were doing TGP keys with 2x passive

Id like to see the sim where it's "waay" higher tho

[tropic gale]

Hey all! First time playing boomie and im still getting ilvl, im 640 and just did a ml 10, is there a channel for log review or something so i can ask what im messing up the most or whatever? Thank you

[eager raft]

You can post logs here and ask any questions you have someone will be around to help most likely!

[tropic gale]

Aight! Didnt want to bother all chat if there was a channel for it
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QL3aF4XKDcdZhVxj?fight=last&type=casts&source=3
I know this for sure is bad, coming from 7 years or so as vdh so 🙂 whatever stuff that anyone can point ill be happy to read and try to do better, im aware that i spend so much time outside eclipse and im not sure about when should i wrath or starfire

[craggy sonnet]

nahh ..
@lofty depot loves spamming log advice in here.
sadly not around rn it seems

[lucid olive]

thats a banger pull

3 starfalls and go next pack is dead

[lofty depot]

didnt sunfire

macro natures vigil to incarn

[tropic gale]

Maybe the dead was me, i died in the first pull hahaha

[lucid olive]

oh you died on the first pull thats why its over in like 4 globals lmao

[lofty depot]

wasted dreamstate

[tropic gale]

Cool i didnt think about that

[lofty depot]

u seem to like not pressing sunfire

i also dont know why ur incapping in that situation

is ur tank spectrum

[tropic gale]

Could be weekly affix

[lucid olive]

typhoon

[tropic gale]

I noticed i often forget sunfire, will try to do better y

Oh that doesnt bear form me makes sense

[lucid olive]

get better weakauras or nameplates if you forget sunfire

[lofty depot]

sorry ur spamming starfire outside of eclipse

for like 20 seconds

[lucid olive]

there's like a 3 second gap between incarn and warrior of elune where you're either looking for your keybinds or pouring some coffee

[tropic gale]

I have almost no clue about when am i in eclipse or im not, that and seeing what enemies are moonfired are being hard, i have to get a new wa

[lucid olive]

yes get better weakauras and nameplates

[lofty depot]

do u not have a weakaura or

[tropic gale]

I think i have luxthos lemme see

[lucid olive]

Moonfire while pack is being gathered
Sunfire when pack is gathered
Moonfire mobs that still need it
Fury of Elune
Incarn
Starfall
Starfall
Starfire
Starfall
Starfire
Warrior of Elune

etc

https://wago.io/OiBalance

get this

[lofty depot]

i mean luxthos has the tracker

[lucid olive]

luxthos also has animations

[tropic gale]

Yes i blame myself about that anyway, im just not used to that i guess

[lofty depot]

if hes not looking at thje weakaura or anticipating the cd of it

its not gonna change anything

look at ur weakauras

theyre there to help u

ur spamming surges outside of eclipse

[tropic gale]

I like this one i see eclipse easier, turns out i didnt have luxthos i had smth called the ultimate balance druid tww or smth like that idk

[lofty depot]

just as a generality u shouldnt be incarning in the middle of a pack like this

[tropic gale]

Oh why is that?

[lofty depot]

because the pack is dead half way thru ur incarn

it might be a timing thing cuz of ur first few incarns

theres also 2 packs after that u generally pull together but tank didnt

so shrug

u need to hold ur incarn somewhere for trinket

theres like 4 uses not with incarn

which if u didnt use incarn in that half dead pack, u wouldve had it for said incarn after

[ivory geyser]

If you have Plater mod, under the scripting tab there is a "Balance Dot" option that lets you set nameplate colors for only have Moonfire, only have Sunfire, and having both. Made a HUGE difference for me.

[tropic gale]

I have elvui 😦

[tropic gale]

That makes sense, as i was just pressing w and trying to remember all the other stuff i just didnt think about trinket

[ivory geyser]

I'd be surprised if elvui didn't have something like that but I stopped using elvui a few months ago.

[cerulean summit]

what's an innervate macro that lets you just target the healer every time?

[lofty depot]

hes forgetting to press it

hes not, missing mobs that dont have it

theres a differnece

[lofty depot]

like @party1 -5 or some shit

[tropic gale]

Also when im moonfiring its hard to see which mobs are dotted and which ones not, i often forget but not always hahaha

[cerulean summit]

pretty sure krona has it on incarn but I'm not sure what the macro is for that

ill try to find the target party memeber thing

[lofty depot]

u should be starfalling on 2nd boss

[ivory geyser]

I understand he's forgetting, but the color coding would help. If you know that both dots = Green nameplate.... then anything not green reminds you to cast the other dot

[lofty depot]

gonna set an alarm on his computer to remind him to sunfire

[tropic gale]

Right now this is what my ui shows

[lofty depot]

uhhh

[tropic gale]

yeah

[lofty depot]

go download jundies

u have like an inch gap between the dot and the health bar

[teal minnow]

Gonna need a second monitor above your current one for the bigger pulls

[tropic gale]

xD

[cerulean summit]

question, if you dotted a big pack in m+ and you noticed you missed a mob or mobs during incarn, you def don't want to dot them right?

[lofty depot]

if u have to move maybe

[cerulean summit]

but while still pumping

[lofty depot]

but otherwise no, slam starfires

[cerulean summit]

gotcha

[lofty depot]

u pressed trienket at 13, when u couldve held for 30 seconds and lined it up properly

u shouldve held incarn and trinket here for ur next foe

also incap roaring in incarn is banned

[teal minnow]

If your ocd can survive it, just hit starfire and starfall harder

[lucid olive]

you can have both plater and elvui

and just turn off elvui nameplates

[cerulean summit]

that's the real problem

lmao

seeing those two mobs peak their head over a giant pack of mobs just for me to see I missed 1 or 2 drives me nuts

[hybrid garden]

Just stop tracking dots now you’ll never know you missed them

[ivory geyser]

Ooh.. .i like that idea Kasvot!! 😉

[tropic gale]

Alright ill try to:

• Get a plater profile
• Not use banned spells in incarn
• Moon and sunfire everyone
• Starfall at 2+ t
• Line the trinket with my damage lol
• Not spend time outside eclipse
• For some reaason use elunes fury before incarn and not right after
  Idk if im forgetting something but thats already some work to do, thank you all for your time!

[lofty depot]

not spend asp outside of eclipse

[cerulean summit]

the reason is you want to get as many of your hardest hitting spells in incarn as possible

so you click elunes fury before

[lofty depot]

for some reason is because gcds in incarn are important and foe is dynamic

[abstract breach]

I’d like to try Jundies plater just to see, but I use Vesp’s and it’s been pretty good. I have my dots to the left of the nameplates instead of the top…easier for me to see

[lofty depot]

hold trinket more

ur using 30 seconds before cds

[ivory geyser]

Here's the plater window for the dot..... you can click on the color boxes to change the colors to you choice...

[tropic gale]

🫡 will do

[lofty depot]

is there a question or

[abstract breach]

Nah just throwing out another option if they’re looking for another profile to try

[teal minnow]

That and foe causes the things it hits to take 6% more damage for 6 seconds

[cerulean summit]

ye

[verbal burrow]

why does my best in slots on the vendor shows agi and not intellect

[grizzled shoal]

because you have to use it to make it int

the out of combat on use

makes it int

[verbal burrow]

ah alright

i was scared buying the wrong thing xD

[grizzled shoal]

[heady herald]

hi. can som1 plz help me with how to macro bis?

doesnt seems to work

[lucid olive]

/use 16

[karmic root]

idk how to read mplus logs, but anyonw know how I can improve? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TD3rP1bHgmNYpykf?fight=2&type=damage-done this was my 16 ML

[heady herald]

ty

[lofty depot]

wasted dreamstate stacks

wasted incarn

[karmic root]

How did i waste incarn? jc

[lofty depot]

it lasts 15 seconds not 10

[scenic mist]

yeah but there is pandemic

[lofty depot]

shits half dead

and now u dont have incarn for this

wasted a dreamstate stack with woe

dont need to enter elcipse, wasted dreamstate stacks

[karmic root]

i think i entered eclipse here as i had sundered firm

[lofty depot]

dreamstate >

[karmic root]

okay, yea ill work on keeping an eye on dreamstate more

and just to make sure ive understood it properly, when you have sundered firm, you want to double wrath into incarn correct?

and with no sundered firm, you just rip the incarn

[lofty depot]

entering eclipse while in combat when ur going to incarn next global is wrong

[karmic root]

so how would you do it?

[lofty depot]

not enter eclipse

and press incarn

u guys are gaming the stacks pretty well on first boss

i think the incarn use is fine... typically u would hold it til ur next foe tho

[karmic root]

okay

pull 9 is the one with a lot of rats, etc after 2nd boss. can you check that one out? am i just screwed cause of MM/ret?

[golden belfry]

Yep

[lofty depot]

yes

but htats at 14 minutes

so uhhh hold on

think u should wildcharge more on 2nd boss

ur also screwed with the rats cuz u dont have cds

so yea wcyd

[karmic root]

wcyd?

[golden belfry]

What can you do

[karmic root]

ah okay

ty

[golden belfry]

Ret/mm blowin em up anyways

[pseudo merlin]

ngl

[pseudo merlin]

I'm already very much regretting playing boomkin again

[lofty depot]

is this a pug or no

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[lofty depot]

not tlaking to u dork

[pseudo merlin]

and im still answering

[karmic root]

no, i play in a team

[pseudo merlin]

🖕

[lofty depot]

so u know hes gonna pull this

u shouldnt have foe'd here

because now u dont have it for incarn

its like 8 seconds into it

[golden belfry]

Play in a team and you pulled peacekeeper, tf

[lofty depot]

u should find times to press meld

[karmic root]

for dreamstate?

[lofty depot]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[karmic root]

okay

[karmic root]

and just coming back to this, i should of just held foe for incarn then?

[karmic root]

Idk if you can check but maybe i thought I was going to get it back in time? or was the pack abt to be dead

[lofty depot]

i wonder what u thought u were gonna dodge with it on 3rd boss tho

[lucid olive]

what lvl keys are u doing

[lofty depot]

think u just pressed it randomly

[lofty depot]

the foe or

[karmic root]

foe

[lofty depot]

the pack was dead

u had 1 alive

then u pulled more mobs

[scarlet tapir]

give the ten thousant ticks of jettinson kelp id say a 7

[lofty depot]

15:33

[golden belfry]

Can dodge charged shot aoe if pulling mech into rixxa or make her azerite catalyst not happen w/ meld

[karmic root]

i shadowmelded 3rd boss as healer wanted me to meld off the dot from warmachine

[golden belfry]

But I mean in a team on a 16 playing peacekeeper and no mech into boss so

[lofty depot]

ah, it didtn show itw as targetting u

stupid replay

[karmic root]

tank isint confident in doing that peacekeeper skip before 1st boss

sadly

[lofty depot]

thats a lot of sunfires

hm

got a little hairy it looks like

[golden belfry]

Dodgin swirlies

[pseudo merlin]

anything that invs me. I'm sorting for 2-6

[golden belfry]

Huge

[pseudo merlin]

holla if you got any 10s

[lofty depot]

did it again with incarn and foe later

its curious ur spamming dots on boss when u have woe charges

its the final 3 seconds of boss but nonetheless

[lucid olive]

i was gonna ask if you wanted to do some, but then i logged into all my characters and saw the mountain of crests i need to farm

and now i think i'm gonna log off

[pseudo merlin]

Not a single decline though 🙂

[verbal lintel]

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU STOP NINJA PULLING AS BALANCE DRUID FOR FUCKING FUCK SAKE

[pseudo merlin]

Woa

Uncaps that button and don't run into stuff?

[lucid olive]

don't run into stuff and don't moonfire mobs you aren't in combat with

idk man

sounds like skill issue

[lofty depot]

what are u ninja pulling

[pseudo merlin]

Like

Moonkin doesn't ninjapull things

Not since shadowlands

lol

[lofty depot]

well it can pull the citizans in cindussy

[lucid olive]

other people ninjapull things and then blame moonkin cause starfall ripped aggro after the mob was body pulled

[pseudo merlin]

^

[verbal lintel]

but like

im in a priory

[pseudo merlin]

huh which ones

[verbal lintel]

and someone is fucking ninjapulling the whole dungeon

and im thinking its me

cuz

yk

[lofty depot]

ok

[verbal lintel]

starfall

[lofty depot]

post a log

[lucid olive]

starfall doesn't do damage to mobs you're not in combat with

[lofty depot]

ur starfall looks like it pulls cuz if something is pull randomly, ur slamming starfall its the only thing thats hitting it after it gets pulled

[pseudo merlin]

Ret isn't supposed to pull with DH and also not with divine storm

but since this xpac we do again

🙂

[lucid olive]

love threat

[pseudo merlin]

I swear every time Blizzard applies a patch it somehow reverts all hotfixes

idk what the fuck they're doing in the background

[upbeat flume]

True, always fun watching someone butt pull a pack or 2 then having party blame the boomy cause all they see is the mobs kill the boomy!

[lofty depot]

just log it

then show them theyre wrong

[twilit shard]

In what situation would you ever proc a blooming infusion?

i.e from casting 5 regrowths etc

[lucid olive]

you proc it from casting regrowths

but its not worth to play around it from damage

[verbal burrow]

anyone got some knowledge about plater? rn its tracking every debuff from me, i guess only moonfire and sunfire is important how can i change that?

[lucid olive]

if thats what you're asking

[twilit shard]

Yeah i was just wondering when you would ever actually do that really

[lucid olive]

but regrowth gives DR and increased healing taken and movement speed

so its a good button

[twilit shard]

Sweet thanks. Just going through my WA proc tracker and getting rid of some stuff thats probably not required

[lucid olive]

convoke can also proc it

its worth knowing when you have blooming infusion

if you want to prune things to track its not that

[lofty depot]

black list the other spells

[twilit shard]

or change it to manual and add the ones you want only

[verbal burrow]

i blacklisted it but its still here

[twilit shard]

I had the same issue, if you click manual tracking method rather than automatic and then add the buffs/debuffs in that worked for me

[verbal burrow]

alright ty a lot

[signal temple]

This happens often to me in the first hallway of Darkflame Cleft, the tank just runs through groups and doesn't do an attack until they're satisfied with the amount of mobs that they have collected.
Meanwhile Starfall is going BRRRRR

[jovial hare]

whats the raid rep max this week

15 right?

[grizzled shoal]

yes

[wary plover]

what amount of vers should i be looking for on boomkin feel like im perma bear forming or i just die to aoe /

im 3.24% vers before druid buff and 6.48% after

[lucid olive]

it doesn't matter

people are timing +23s without adding any more vers than what their sim tells them to

[pseudo merlin]

"3.5k alt, inv me"

all 4 players i invited

[drifting nova]

skill issue

[pseudo merlin]

It always happens to me, so I have to be the lowest common denominator

[jolly delta]

Almost there

soon ™️

[south egret]

Is it more worth going Keeper for m+ up to like +12 and then swap to Elune or go Elune all the way? i feel like everything dies to quick for me to do any dmg ^^

[jolly delta]

if everything dies quickly then say thanks to your group and move to harder content

it just generally doesnt matter what you play

keeper will be better in low keys because of the burst from the treants

but

[south egret]

Cant move on with my ilvl and rio atm

[maiden pasture]

the hard part about getting up is not damage done in the key, its getting into the key

if elunes isnt good enough because the key is too low, that means the key is timed anyway and it doesnt matter

no point trying to think about it rlly

[verbal lintel]

I just started playing balance druid and im looking to improve. was wondering if some of you could point out some general errors in my m+ log here: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PHmjVBkrgndTzD6Y?fight=last&type=summary

[lofty depot]

dont need to enter eclipse

wasted incarn

shouldve waited 5 seconds

idk if its shit dies too fast cuz u have 2 afk dps

but urs getting uhh not a lot of starfires off

also ur supposed to foe before incarn

thjis time u didnt enter eclipse but still wasted dreamstate

[verbal lintel]

So do i have to enter eclipse before pressing incarn?

i thought incarn made u go auto eclipse

[lofty depot]

well it does

[verbal lintel]

a combination of shit dies too fast and a skill issue lol

[verbal lintel]

what is foe? xD

[lofty depot]

so when u entere eclipse prior to going into incarn u waste dreamstate stacks

fury of elune

ur funny lazer beam

probably a timing thing cuz its a 10

but u dont have incarn for the neophytes

tragic

remembered that u should be starfalling in the middle of that?

press typhoon for affix

forgets to sunfire, tragic

[verbal lintel]

in terms of dreamstate stacks, are they really that important? It only increases ur cast time?

[lofty depot]

probably shouldnt foe there

delays it for next pack

[verbal lintel]

wowhead just told me to press it on cooldown

xD

[lofty depot]

well ur getting 5-7 starfires during cds when u can get 7-9

[polar linden]

Fellas, boys, boyos, guys, people, furries and owls. I used to play balance back in S1 in TWW, is the gameplay very similar now in s2?

[lofty depot]

that is the idea

but if u cant cdr it at the end of packs ull lose actual uptime on it

99% of the time u should press it on cd

[ivory geyser]

can you clarify what the dreamstate stacks are? I'm a bit lost on those.

[lofty depot]

hover over ur natures grace talent

and read it

[verbal lintel]

also, one question. When u have a huge pull like the neophytes, there is no way you can actually dot everything up with moonfire before shit dies? Do you just dot like most of it and send it?

[lofty depot]

well in a 10, no

in actual keys yes u dot them

[verbal lintel]

So like in keys as First pull in mechagon and cinderbrew

u do it there aswell

?

[lofty depot]

depends how long they live

read the prio list, but yes u dot them

[verbal lintel]

alrighty, thanks for the analysis

[lofty depot]

2nd boss u should be wild charging the shield

and running out of the hamers

u did it a few times, but ur roaring and dashing

i just wanna show u its possible cuz yea

5 starfires in cd

u can get more even the way ur doing it

[jolly delta]

@lofty depot

be my A/B tester

choose one

[lofty depot]

this beacuse "the fuck the 2 mean unless it says warning next to it"?

[jolly delta]

?

doesnt it say "2 timeline warnings"

?

[lofty depot]

sorry there was ment ot be "" in there

i think the top one fine

[jolly delta]

tf

i legit cant understand you speak english mf

[lofty depot]

well ur not english

so makes sense

[polar linden]

how is s2 balance compared to s1 balance druid? 🙂

[lofty depot]

largly the same

[polar linden]

so if i enjoyed it in s1 i will probably enjoy it now?

[lofty depot]

idk how someone would enjoy the spec, but yes that would be the case

[polar linden]

do you need someone to talk to?

[lofty depot]

im tlaking to u right now

[polar linden]

im happy to be here for you

[lofty depot]

im glad ur here buddy

[polar linden]

I know balance is quite good in m+ but how does it perform in raid? Just generally speaking

[lofty depot]

uhh below average

[polar linden]

is it our ST that suffer?

[lofty depot]

i mean, all of it suffers really

[polar linden]

I thought balance was on its top rn

peak gaming

[lofty depot]

where would u get that idea

[polar linden]

my head probably

never said it was correct

[lofty depot]

well where did ur head get its info

[polar linden]

people

word goes around

[lofty depot]

what people

[polar linden]

insane people

[lofty depot]

who people

id like names

[polar linden]

i have just heard; arcane mage, balance, dh tank and disc priest is the best for m+

sort of

[lofty depot]

well taht is true

[pallid bay]

boomkin is fine in raid

[lofty depot]

theres also other classes that can do good

[meager storm]

[polar linden]

im sort of choosing between balance, ele shaman or mm hunter but im finding hunter real weird in m+ atm

[lofty depot]

only hallmark is balance middle of the pack on gally

[meager storm]

mm hunter is really fun on m+ wuh

[eager raft]

[lofty depot]

i mean i just wouldnt play hunter cuz respectable plays it so all the mustards play it clearly

[eager raft]

🤨

[lofty depot]

oh speaking of which canada boy

[pallid bay]

sucks to suck

[lofty depot]

do u guys drink pickle moonshine up there

[eager raft]

not that i've ever heard of

[lofty depot]

odd

[eager raft]

but like i live in a city so i dont know anybody who drinks moonshine

[lofty depot]

minnesota so close figured it was a thing

oh hmm

[eager raft]

i am nowher enear minnesota

[lofty depot]

oh yea i forgott most of canada is basically not canada

so true

[polar linden]

I saw the 60m starfire video from grim batol and I was psyched up to try balance again, but frfr is it worth it?

[lofty depot]

i mean, u can do those things in m+ yes

[eager raft]

brother i live the same distance from u

as i do to minnesota

[lofty depot]

doubt it

i live close to minnesota than u prob

[eager raft]

yes definitely

[lofty depot]

sioux falls is only 3 hours

[eager raft]

ok well thanks for the fun engaging conversation see ya later

[lofty depot]

and thats next to minnesota

then again i dont know where u live

surely toronto

maybe hes from wininipeg, then agian he said no where near minnesota

[pseudo merlin]

Minnesota is literally canada

have you ever heard them speak?

[polar linden]

which hero tree is it people run for m+? (dont tell me both work, which is it people actually play in higher keys?) 🙂

[lofty depot]

thhats what im saying

[lucid olive]

type shit

[lofty depot]

my buddy came into town and i made him some moonshine.... he asked if i had ever made pickle moonshine

i said it sounded like a canada delicacy

[lofty depot]

ec

[pseudo merlin]

moonshine?

I'm gonne pass on that one

[pseudo merlin]

No shot

[lofty depot]

every heard of a dilly beer?

[pseudo merlin]

No

[lofty depot]

take a miller/coors and put a pickle in it

[pseudo merlin]

Oh god

[dense steeple]

Ole smoky moonshine is piss quality

[lofty depot]

for some reason the like sharpness of the beer

[lofty depot]

well i knew they had it so i took picture

[vital hound]

what fuck

[dense steeple]

Fair

[lofty depot]

i generally make peach cobbler, applie pie, watermelon, creamsicle

[dense steeple]

This is bis moonshine brand

If you find some you should get it

Flavor doesnt matter.

[polar linden]

did starlord refresh back in s1?

[lofty depot]

60 proof, what am i a bitch

[lofty depot]

no

[polar linden]

what's the dps difference between ec and kotg in m+? Rough numbers

[severe granite]

yes

[tired cave]

And you wanna have an serious answer 😄

[polar linden]

I mean, are we looking at a 0.2% difference or 2-5%?

[pseudo merlin]

apple pie moonshine sounds awesome

[lofty depot]

it is

when made right its problematic

because u dont taste the moonshine

[lofty depot]

uhh probably like the 2-5% range sure

[polar linden]

Alright, I think it's worth the hassle to learn EC then coming from kotg in s1 😛

[lofty depot]

its not really a big curve

press foe on cd in most situations

foe before incarn, dont waste dreamstate stacks

spam starfire

[polar linden]

wdym dreamstate, cant be found when searching for it in talents

its a pain losing moonfiring treants though

[lofty depot]

natures grace

[lofty depot]

[polar linden]

I gotta waste 1 stack right? I pre-cast wrath to enter lunar but one stack is always lost upon entering?

[lofty depot]

if done properly u could entere elcipse pre combat

but otherwise yes ur wasting a stack

but its more important for incarn

[pseudo merlin]

is that urine?

[lofty depot]

thats the moonshine dork

[pseudo merlin]

need to drink more water

oh

[polar linden]

wdym

[lucid olive]

wrath twice while tank is walking to a pack

you dont gain dreamstate until combat starts

[polar linden]

makes sense, how reasonable is that in m+? Feels extremely diffiuclt

[scenic mist]

it is

not very reasonable

[lucid olive]

idk its not that difficult

just wrath twice when tank is walking to a pack

[polar linden]

your tanks walk?

mine jump, charge, horse, teleport, idk

[scenic mist]

gamz playing with a tank rp walking

[lofty depot]

do u stand 50ft behind them and not prep for next pull?

[lucid olive]

as long as you start the first wrath cast before he has pulled its fine

if you spellqueue the 2nd wrath you wont munch the stack

[polar linden]

all dh tanks jump 5 times in 1 second 😦

[scenic mist]

the last cast, right ?

oh ok

[polar linden]

Ill try, thanks 🙂

do we still suffer from negative armor and having to enter bear form when out of defensives to survive m+ damage? (like in s1..)

[lofty depot]

negative armor sure

but were tankier than s1

u still have to bear form some stuff

well "have to"

[dense steeple]

Itsny second favorite from firefly

[lucid olive]

if you watch Yarrgi you'll see he does it almost every pack, its very forgiving

[polar linden]

oh hold up, we dont pre-cast moonfire on all mobs while tank is gathering anymore?

[lucid olive]

yes you do

[polar linden]

im so confused, how do we cast wrath and moonfire

simultaneously

[pseudo merlin]

whats your favorite

[lofty depot]

well hes not incombat

[dense steeple]

Banana cream pie

[scenic mist]

yeah indeeed, the spellQing of the 2nd wrath not consuming DS stack changes everything to my pov

[pseudo merlin]

WHAT

I dont even know how to imagine what banana cream pie would taste like

[dense steeple]

Its taste like a banana cream pie

[lucid olive]

that was the tech in start of expac when Dreamstate still gave 50% dmg amp or w/e to the cast

[lofty depot]

banana pudding

[dense steeple]

But you get drunk faster

[lucid olive]

also you just use

#showtooltip
/cast Wrath
/cancelaura [nocombat] dreamstate

[pseudo merlin]

havent had

[pseudo merlin]

bro what do you people eat

[dense steeple]

Please stop typing

Go to your store

[lucid olive]

you wrath on a mob to enter eclipse before you start spreading dots and stuff

[dense steeple]

Buy one

Live

[pseudo merlin]

lmao

[lucid olive]

but youd only do it if you're able to get into eclipse with both stacks of dreamstate

[pseudo merlin]

I only know one type of creampie

[lucid olive]

if you cant then just spread dots regularly

[pseudo merlin]

and I definitely don't want to taste it

[dense steeple]

This ones better ong

[lofty depot]

uhh, i have the recipe for banana cream i think u use jellow flavoring, banana liquire, baileys/whipped cream vodka, cinnamon, and moonshine

[lucid olive]

wtf recipe is that

[dense steeple]

Thats too much work wtf

[lofty depot]

its not

[lucid olive]

pretty sure the recipe for a banana cream pie is

milk whisked into cream

and then bananas

put on tray in a pie shape

americans making everything more complicated than it needs to be smfh

[dense steeple]

Just buy this

[lofty depot]

were making moonshine not pie

[pseudo merlin]

lmao