actually i have gotten 10% average haste on some pulls
#balance
pallid bay
nice killtime
meager storm
kinda good
sleek echo
Do I need to swap to bear form anytime I'm targeted by anything in Mythic +? I'm struggling to stay alive in kick heavy dungeons like Priory, Floodgate, and Brewery whenever something gets missed in a +10.
It's my first time playing a caster, but I'm just shocked at how fast I'm evaporating compared to everyone else in my groups.
meager storm
whats ur ilvl
sleek echo
- Mostly 4/8 hero with some crafted pieces.
meager storm
should be fine
maybe too many kicks are missed and u just melt before the healer gets to heal u
maiden pasture
are you doomed to forever floorpov sprocket @meager storm
learn to play the fight or?
meager storm
i got 3 mines
all of them the farthest away
actually 2 of them the farthest away
and being the 2nd to pop so im like 10s every time afk
just sitting there
and then someone puts a bad drill
maiden pasture
what demonic comp do u have where u get 3 mines in one pul as moonkin
i get like 1 a fight
meager storm
in between the big purple beams
and i just die cuz i dont get enough time to pop the last mine and run to the group
we have a bunch of alts idk
actually it is 5s afk every time for the farthest ones
but still
i had a r2 i think last week but the sale guy wanted private logs
unlucky
eager raft
i had a r2 i think last week but the sale guy wanted private logs
fuck em you already have ur gold
digital berry
if you're gonna buy mythic clears at least own up to it smh
quiet drift
+1
pallid bay
dont own up to anything
livid jay
????
fervent merlin
Lost big bro?
fervent merlin
Na great gps access in the us
queen apex
@faint compass 
faint compass
<@226092690142527492> <a:waveypeepo:594757198979268611>
Don't ping me in this den of inequity and degeneracy
Also hi bb
queen apex
stable fiber
Don't ping me in this den of inequity and degeneracy
[3:22 PM]
Also hi bb
livid jay
— 22:22
Don't ping me in this den of inequity and degeneracy
Also hi bb
maiden beacon
@faint compass 
faint compass
@stable fiber you can't be here
faint compass
<@226092690142527492> <a:SChug:767629974353608717>
maiden beacon
<a:gif_lick:405983463691255808>
i hope your doing well in this chicken infested channel
stable fiber
<@198634065094639616> you can't be here
why....
maiden beacon
stable fiber
blocked_by_tettles.eps
livid jay
queen apex
<@198634065094639616> you can't be here
When are you coming back
maiden beacon
blocked_by_tettles.eps
:meowdy2:
queen apex
Donkey needs you
faint compass
When are you coming back
When rev unbans me and kib gives me donkey role so I can't be moderated by the tyrants
queen apex
Is that what that is
faint compass
I mean I would come back but I'm banned
And tbf I'd probably get myself banned again almost immediately
queen apex
faint compass
I wouldn't be able to resist
queen apex
What if we had insiders unban you
faint compass
Do it
queen apex
Our allys
faint compass
I'll try and behave myself
queen apex
Ok 1 sec
maiden beacon
loud kettle
Do not behave yourself
maiden beacon
come home fiesta
faint compass
Do not behave yourself
I won't don't worry
maiden beacon
he never returned
ancine took his place as the most cringe person in all classcords
queen apex
I won't don't worry
Ok it's in motion you have to be good boy tho
maiden beacon
we should not talk about him, i might get another thesis dm with a lawsuit threat
faint compass
Ok it's in motion you have to be good boy tho
Fine I'll just block rev
queen apex
He don't type much these days
digital berry
wts is even going on
queen apex
Black ops covert stuff
stable fiber
its just havoc demon hunter things you wouldnt understand
digital berry
Take the havoc demon hunter things into the havoc demon hunter discord you degens
unkempt kraken
I was wondering if it's worth to craft ring instead of Cyrces Circlet?
i did some sims
Patchwerk 5 traget i have lower dmg
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2u47iPnZg9kqsQrifgKHyE
but MDT Sim the crafted rings is better?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jQYLcW3h81EftMgtGNed1V
What would you recommend?
fervent merlin
I was wondering if it's worth to craft ring instead of Cyrces Circlet?
i did som...
2min 5 target is sus
gentle patio
My circlet is worse than 671 jestor diamond and a 681 crafted ring 
maiden pasture
in st?
gentle patio
Nah mdt sim
maiden pasture
Ah, that's kinda expected
vital hound
2min 5 target goes hard
vital hound
I was wondering if it's worth to craft ring instead of Cyrces Circlet?
i did som...
@delicate perch login
unkempt kraken
im not sure thats good timers and target count for patchwork, what would be best?
delicate perch
<@129188899741237248> login
vital hound
im not sure thats good timers and target count for patchwork, what would be best...
1T 5min
1T 7min
depending on how your tank pulls
unkempt kraken
ok, ty
vital hound
<:HUH:1115674347865129042>
brazen mango
Hey, is grove adapted for keys <12 ?
digital berry
ok sims don't tell me what to dinar its fine totally fine
well you arent running a droptimizer dinar sim
vital hound
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ovyUnLNSGpsqZwhXZqK4nz
jastor/hoc/jug
barren carbon
well you arent running a droptimizer dinar sim
droptimizer won't account for stat changes that i may want to make
barren carbon
jastor/hoc/jug
i know the prio in theory but when i simmed a few weeks ago that wasn't my specific prio
vital hound
just depends on what you get
i just login and see what sune is wearing
and copy him
barren carbon
it would depend, but the sim shows a strict upgrade to jug is a downgrade and the same for when i sim hoc and jastor
soooooooooooo weird
lucid olive
I was wondering if it's worth to craft ring instead of Cyrces Circlet?
i did som...
Gear compare 
delicate perch
expert mode 45s 
lofty depot
i mean i assume top gear works fine
droptimizer was easier
i assume u fucked something up in that
lofty depot
Gear compare <:NootLikeThis:460223681663205377>
barren carbon
i assume u fucked something up in that
i mean it looks fine to me but maybe im potato brained https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1D8RNr1YodQLnTP8xfsDvu
lofty depot
this isnt fine
buyt i dont feel like figuring out what u did wrong cuz im watching sports
barren carbon
that's what im saying!
young ermine
Hello good, I have a doubt , looked at many change the ring of the island, by the ring created , by profession, is it profitable to do so , or do I do it when I have maxed clothing.
lofty depot
holyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
barren carbon
holy
lofty depot
Hello good, I have a doubt , looked at many change the ring of the island, by th...
cyrce ring is good, jastor + crafted 681 / motherload 684 can beat it in a mdt sim
barren carbon
if i sim 1% down with the upgrade, and have 2-3% loss from wrong corruption, the math checks out
so i am a potato brain
digital berry
we been knew
young ermine
cyrce ring is good, jastor + crafted 681 / motherload 684 can beat it in a mdt s...
I currently wear it like this, so I don't have it done?
lofty depot
I currently wear it like this, so I don't have it done?
like i said u can sim crafted and motherload ring
if u dont have them then no its likely not better
noble spindle
my highest sim has me running 14% haste
and i feel like i wanna kms if im that low
so im just going by my 2nd highest sim
young ermine
like i said u can sim crafted and motherload ring
thankss
celest narwhal
if i sim 1% down with the upgrade, and have 2-3% loss from wrong corruption, the...
if ur awake
looks like bc of the gems and enchants u have selected
your loosing dmg but HOC selected is the least dps Lost from vault bc of those selctions
@barren carbon
0.8%5 upgrade
fiery veldt
is the belt good for us?
lofty depot
just like every other time they make a new item at the end of a patch
it will likely be worn
versed belfry
Anyone know if the bug with Jastors was fixed? Where you had to keep requipping and needing a weakaura for it?
glossy jungle
was fixed during wf prog
versed belfry
was fixed during wf prog
Thanks
wide idol
Is 0.5% dps loss worth the change?
Feel like more haste for more quality of life in keys dotting things up
Ive been simming 5t 5m and 1t 5m and its telling me to stack mastery
(27% mast, 18% haste)
Simming for cyrce vs crafted ring results
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vHVviMUyACjuJKRMmXzDbG
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sCMupbMaX8vb4udiPc2xCg
lofty depot
Is 0.5% dps loss worth the change?
Feel like more haste for more quality of life...
0.5% loss is nothing
and its likely not that big anyway
hoary igloo
noob question here, do you always want to pop Inc when you have WoE or is ok to pop it even if WoE is not up?
lofty depot
Woe should generally always be up for incarn, but it's not a determining factor of pressing incarn
delicate perch
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hwqpKGwDTbHXegMVDwbuQY
this should do it
iron chasm
this should do it
Damn Cavey did cook it
delicate perch
Damn Cavey did cook it
delicate perch
tried that lol
(notice I did not select cyrces there)
jade flume
Only big dam matters
vital hound
ionic oak
i accepted im cyrce'ing for life
hollow mist
cyrce is cringe and low stam and also low T and prolly eats a lot of soy
sudden flame
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hwqpKGwDTbHXegMVDwbuQY
0.1% dps 💀
just change over man
vital hound
funny number tho
fossil shard
lyric kettle
cyrce is cringe and low stam and also low T and prolly eats a lot of soy
true
round field
cyrce is cringe and low stam and also low T and prolly eats a lot of soy
didnt know ur irl name was cyrce
hollow mist
didnt know ur irl name was cyrce
ur so lucky we're in dreamgrove bud
round field
gottem
wraith cairn
is it just me or does DR hit pretty early on balance druid mastery?
livid jay
didnt know ur irl name was cyrce
goddamn
wraith cairn
dont tell me how to play my game
round field
dont tell me how to play my game
why are you here then
wraith cairn
sry forgot class discords are cringe af and you can't have a fucking conversation
livid jay
he said delete that addon as friendly advice
quiet drift
livid jay
and u antagonize him with dont tell me how to play my game xD
both of u apologize
and kiss
quiet drift
Still no clue why they added this mechanic
jade flume
sry forgot class discords are cringe af and you can't have a fucking conversatio...
U wouldnt say that at lan buddy
round field
both of u apologize
dont tell me how to play my game
quiet drift
Hasnt stopped people from stacking a stat
quiet drift
Just causes confusion for 0
round field
like you do anything other than put simc string in and equip
oh great
ur boyfriend is here aswell
vale pebble
ur boyfriend is here aswell
i was going to flame u
but now i will put u on every boss as punishment next week instead
sudden flame
dont tell me how to play my game
vale pebble
and ur doing gally bomb
vale pebble
livid jay
dont tell me how to play my game
helping other people just a game to you?? 
livid jay
and ur doing gally bomb
not an excuse for bad damage dont let him fool you
rather an excuse for pumpus cause u do 0 in p2
round field
its so funny
he threatens me
i do gally bomb
meanwhile hes gonna be stuck on the fight until raid is over
ill just be payphoning
livid jay
u going in the frontal bait or has your guild allowed u to not be in it?
since i dont go in the bait the fight is komplett payphoning on boomer
vale pebble
not an excuse for bad damage dont let him fool you
?
round field
u going in the frontal bait or has your guild allowed u to not be in it?
i just
stand somewhere
if frontal on me
unlucky or lucky
depending on where im standing
doesnt rly matter
not like u can ever do dmg on that fight when pdf evoker spec exists
vale pebble
livid jay
?
its true, you run 10 steps once and afterwards you get to not be in soaks in p2 as an exchange cause they dont want the poor boomkin carrying bomb to die
vale pebble
not like u can ever do dmg on that fight when pdf evoker spec exists
have u actually looked
who tops adds btw
vale pebble
its true, you run 10 steps once and afterwards you get to not be in soaks in p2 ...
wallahi
who said anything about dps
livid jay
iqni probably when his parse is shit
livid jay
dont tell me how to play my game
vale pebble
round field
have u actually looked
of course not?
hollow mist
dont tell me how to play my game
how bout some PRIO DAMAGE MAHRANAKA
vale pebble
topping every add dmg on every boss
royal zenith
nerf prot war
round field
livid jay
how bout some PRIO DAMAGE MAHRANAKA
my tank told me kill adds or i die 
round field
iqni probably when his parse is shit
do you
really think
i care about parses
when i roll up to raid
in 676 ilvl
vale pebble
round field
i am?
livid jay
royal zenith
good question mahranaka
round field
i am not falling for the
royal zenith
iqni why are you so low ilvl
royal zenith
oh yeah, blame it on the company
round field
no?
royal zenith
so much for teamplay
royal zenith
professional griefer...
round field
after tier is over 
royal zenith
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1178129368241946645/1373984707808727060/ezgif.com-effects.gif
livid jay
tbh i dont know if i would have done it if we already had ce when they put the patch in 😄
round field
sir yes sir
royal zenith
:)
hollow mist
yea screw keys
vale pebble
#notmyvideogame
livid jay
#notmyvideogame
did u see poe patch?
vale pebble
did u see poe patch?
yes...
livid jay
u can aurabot for your mercs now, no need for a teammate
vale pebble
thats what i will be doing...
livid jay
but i guess u wont make gazillions of currency cause everybody can just make an aurabot merc themselves xD
livid jay
yah probably not
vale pebble
how the fuck are u finding a merc
with all the auras
and scale up his aura efficiency
cause all the rmr and effic is from clusters
livid jay
true
vale pebble
but merc is also like
scaling up content
so if it scales hp
like a 2nd player would
not sure how worth it is
u still need to gear it
livid jay
havent even checked the patch notes yet
vale pebble
but mercs will probably be
slap leer case
and hp on them
make them give u some other good stat or something
and keep them for loot multi
livid jay
yea probably just make them make you tankier so u can go more damage and compensate for them being there
rigid summit
Would you pick heroic HoC over mythic Signet?
My sims says its almost identical
lucid olive
Yes
quiet drift
Fight dependant
rigid summit
Why fight dependant? They do the same thing
delicate perch
livid jay
Why fight dependant? They do the same thing
they dont have the same cooldown
vital hound
<a:hmmm:787773263223717909>
maiden pasture
Why fight dependant? They do the same thing
Some fights you might wanna convoke at like 1:50 (examples are like Rik and mugzee) instead of 2:15 or w.e the normal way is. Can't do that with signet
maiden pasture
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8jkCKhZ4ojsJf2RaJdvL9f
Bro why am I reading 45 mins on the embed
What the mi bomba
orchid leaf
My SIM this week said to replace cyrce's circlet with some mythic m+ ring. Did I make a mistake when I didn't?
sudden flame
Bro why am I reading 45 mins on the embed
mdt route
maiden pasture
My SIM this week said to replace cyrce's circlet with some mythic m+ ring. Did I...
Link sim, it's not unheard of for m+ but for raids it's unlikely
sudden flame
if its like 0.1% dps honestly who cares just swap
orchid leaf
It was for raid I only play balance in raid. I picked a chest for my resto instead.
It wasn't a lot tbh.
craggy sonnet
would be very surprised to see it being an upg in ST
maiden pasture
Just saying "my sim said" isn't really enough context, without linking the sim there's no way to get a real answer
orchid leaf
I can't link the SIM right now. I'll try later
I'm on the train and was just talking to a friend and we "argued". Sorry for being so ill prepared. 🙁
maiden pasture
Not really ill prepared or any reason to be sorry. Just a note for when asking questions about sims, having the sim on hand will help you get the answer you want
vital hound
Bro why am I reading 45 mins on the embed
m+ sim
vital hound
I'm on the train and was just talking to a friend and we "argued". Sorry for bei...
if you login you'll be able to see your recent sims in the sidebar
delicate perch
Just saying "my sim said" isn't really enough context, without linking the sim t...
my sim said @vital hound slurs daily
maiden pasture
Proof?
delicate perch
he's from OCE
delicate perch
signal temple
marsh jackal
This maybe a super dumb question but does casting Starfall multiple times do anything? Like if I have 100 AP does it make sense to cast Starfall until my AP is drained or cast one Starfall then dump into Starsurge until Starfall time runs out and re-cast Starfall then?
marsh jackal
Okay so more than 2 targets spam Starfall
dry stream
hello. new to balance. anyone have build that is more aimed toward the 10ish range of keys? or do we just run the same EC builds i see in guides. thanks.
lucid olive
you can run the keeper of the grove build thats in compendium if you want
cloud plover
ty gamz always helpful
lucid olive
but honestly if you change build to do more damage in lower keys that means the mobs die too quick
and is that really an issue
if the key is timed anyway
royal zenith
I ran both in 'lower' keys, doesn't really make a dif
you will always get fucked by mobs dying fast
lucid olive
yeah theyre both probably equal
pseudo merlin
So what you're saying is just don't do any dmg?
pseudo merlin
not wrong
royal zenith
big aoe
lucid olive
yeah just passenger princess the key
royal zenith
to be honest, you can do damage in any keylvl on bamkin
lucid olive
idk i did fine dmg in lower keys when i geared 2nd druid
royal zenith
it's very much cope that you can't compete with burstier classes
lucid olive
i also think its cope that keeper has less ramp time just because treants moonfire for you
those moonfires are not very reliable
royal zenith
ye
lucid olive
and if your tank is gathering more than 1 pack together for the pull you're still gonna moonfire while he's gathering
pseudo merlin
it's very much cope that you can't compete with burstier classes
idk im still living in the past
jade flume
Just play ec, i never had an issue with not being able to do dmg in low keys as boomker tbh
royal zenith
idk im still living in the past
maybe..
you will see a difference
but we're talking about 400k overall end of key
jade flume
Unless u play with 3 ret palas that are doing 10mil dps every pack so its dead before u can dot, u should be completely fine
pseudo merlin
3?
lucid olive
and even then just fuckin
pseudo merlin
So fuck the healer
jade flume
Tbh i just dont believe people are doing keys where they cant do any dmg, even when u 3 chest weeklies u will do fine as bamker
lucid olive
like /follow party1
royal zenith
Tbh i just dont believe people are doing keys where they cant do any dmg, even w...
ya
lucid olive
think a lot of people are used to playing with tanks that go "okay dont hit ANY mob before i have gathered the pull and slammed my defensive swifty macro!!"
so when they hear "moonfire while gathering" they think it'll give em aggro insta
jade flume
Ngl im dotting as soon as shit is moving
lucid olive
yeah same
lucid olive
i wrath while tank is moving to mob and moonfire as soon as i'm in combat
royal zenith
annoying part is proccing a foe when moonfiring...
I also have no clue what's doing that gg's
lucid olive
annoying part is proccing mushroom when moonfiring
pseudo merlin
if moonfire pulls aggro
royal zenith
never actually looked at current talents
lucid olive
and slowing the mobs
jade flume
I mean, tank cant tag every single mob when setting up pulls sometimes
royal zenith
jade flume
Thats just how it is
lucid olive
yeah thats why you have nameplates change color when you have aggro
so you can walk the mob through the tank
and maybe the rat paladin divine storm machine rips aggro instead
youre just doing gods work at that point
lucid olive
youre not wrong
pseudo merlin
??????
I just press judgment and blade of justice during pull tbh
some people insta blast
and pull aggro
then cry
lucid olive
me on flameshaper dev
blow my load 5s into the pull and have every mob chasing me down
pseudo merlin
lmao
scenic mist
blow my load 5s into the pull and have every mob chasing me down
the best part is
you have full aggro after the 2nd engulf and can still say "i just did my single target rotation tbh"
royal zenith
the flameshaper design is terrible
doggie doo doo
2 buttons consuming -> you do 20mil dps burst
wanton pasture
So when you have big pulls, like at the beginning of Cinderbrew, is it better to use FoE after Incarn due to the increase in the burstiness of the damage? Also, I notice from logs that typically a lot of people wait to use WoE 4-5 seconds after hitting Incarn, just wondering why? I typically use it in conjunction with FoE
scenic mist
So when you have big pulls, like at the beginning of Cinderbrew, is it better to...
always FoE before incarn, independently of the pull size
royal zenith
cause you're swimming in ASP, if you rip everything at the same time you overcap as heck
scenic mist
gcds in incarn are a scarce resources
royal zenith
also can use woe charges for movement
if you are trying to 'burst' more - you don't understand the core balance druid gameplay
scenic mist
So when you have big pulls, like at the beginning of Cinderbrew, is it better to...
WoE must be pressed after consuming your 2 charges of nature's grace too
otherwise NG will be consumed with WoE and you miss the value
wanton pasture
Yeah typically I run FoE before Incarn, but I have been messing up the WoE, it makes complete sense why it is delayed now, I am usually mashing keys as fast as possible to try and stop overcapping
fervent merlin
Some keys diff scenarios , usually in priory I’ll hold my woe for the interrupting shot of first pull to keep cranking through
wanton pasture
WoE must be pressed after consuming your 2 charges of nature's grace too
Yeah so no WoE when Eclipse is about to end correct? I do openly try not to do that
wanton pasture
Some keys diff scenarios , usually in priory I’ll hold my woe for the interrupti...
Makes sense, so WoE is kind of situational when you need more AP and/or cannot risk cast time
fervent merlin
Makes sense, so WoE is kind of situational when you need more AP and/or cannot r...
Yea/ movement if needed
Focus on not consuming the 2 NG stacks tho
scenic mist
Yeah so no WoE when Eclipse is about to end correct? I do openly try not to do t...
if there is no incarn available, you would waste only 1 NG charge by pressing WoE early in your scenario (eclipse ending, precast 1 wrath (no NG consumed) + cast wrath (NGx1 consumed) ), i guess WoE here will depend on movement requirements
fervent merlin
That’s the biggest blunder is using WOE with 2 stacks up
scenic mist
outside of incarn, NG stacks arent as impactful tbh
the value is truly because incarn is so short
wanton pasture
if you are trying to 'burst' more - you don't understand the core balance druid ...
I was really only talking about the very first pull, as Incar boosts damage so I thought if you used fury of elune during just the first pull after incarn, you might get a substantial boost in power, I do see some top keys being done this way, I am not talking about doing it for the whole dungeon as I know getting the CDR is better in the long run
fervent merlin
outside of incarn, NG stacks arent as impactful tbh
Ya I figured this was mostly about big lust pulls with all cd
scenic mist
I was really only talking about the very first pull, as Incar boosts damage so I...
i dont believe you'd dps more by pressing FoE the gcd after incarn, instead of the gcd before, regardless of the pull size
you just wanna starfire/starfall in incarn
FoE is kinda like a dot
damage will update dynamically
wanton pasture
Sounds good and thank you for your help. Pretty friendly community here. For the most part, I am doing the right thing, just was reviewing some logs and saw some weird things so I figured I would ask. Thanks again
scenic mist
i never ever saw a statment as outrageous as this one
wanton pasture
Haha, well I am only relating to other class communities I am a part of
scenic mist
this is more like the typical reaction :
Thank you though, for being an incredibly toxic community. this has truly been an experience. i apologize for the audacity of asking a question. i wont let it happen again
lofty depot
Thank you though, for being an incredibly toxic community. this has truly been a...
That's cuz I didn't answer
scenic mist
Is this a discord for those kids in high school that sat in the back with shirts that didnt fit and sniffed markers?
scenic mist
That's cuz I didn't answer
we gotta uphold standards i swear
lofty depot
No this is a discord for the chads in the back that shot staples and spitwads at people for being idiots
scenic mist
No this is a discord for the chads in the back that shot staples and spitwads at...
Yet another shining example of quality Dreamgrove moderation
lofty depot
We the people, moderate dreamgrove
orchid leaf
My SIM this week said to replace cyrce's circlet with some mythic m+ ring. Did I...
Hi, I just wanted to let you all know that I'm an idiot and while it was set to patchwerk I had it on 5 bosses for some reason. I don't recall doing that, but knowing me it has been like that for weeks maybe the entire season. Patchwerk with one boss doesn't want me to replace my circlet.
glad escarp
Hey everyone!
Does someone have the macro used by some top world balance for burst with incarn?
lofty depot
"the macro"?
glad escarp
Yes like :
#showtooltip
/use 13
/cast Incarnation
glad escarp
My current macro is :
#showtooltip Alignement céleste
/use 13
/use Potion élémentaire de puissance ultime
/use ID:191382
/cast Veille de la nature
/cast Alignement céleste
But i'm looking to add more in ^^
lofty depot
What more are u trying to add to it
orchid ember
There's nothing else to add my dude
glad escarp
idk if i can add more off GCD spells
orchid ember
I also don't think it's a good idea to add potion and trinket in there
lofty depot
U shouldn't add more off gcd spells, no
glad escarp
Ok thanks guys 🙂
glad escarp
Because its a reroll & i dont want to use new pot until i'm on 15 & more
royal zenith
You not being arctic this time
lucid olive
My current macro is :
#showtooltip Alignement céleste
/use 13
/use Potion élémen...
you don't need the name of the spell after #showtooltip
lofty depot
You dont have to give opinions
Ew
craggy sonnet
Some keys diff scenarios , usually in priory I’ll hold my woe for the interrupti...
Pulling a knight in 2025..
lofty depot
I was validated by giving my opinion and promoted for giving it
I will not be silenced
royal zenith
Yeah exactly
glad escarp
you don't need the name of the spell after #showtooltip
sure but if i dont do this i will have my trinket shown as the spell 🙂
lofty depot
sure but if i dont do this i will have my trinket shown as the spell 🙂
If u put celestial alignment first u wont
lucid olive
My current macro is :
#showtooltip Alignement céleste
/use 13
/use Potion élémen...
also add [@cursor] in your last line between /cast and the name of the spell, in case you're ever talenting into Orbital Strike (so you don't need to go back to add it after the fact when you talent into it and get confused at the reticle)
lucid olive
sure but if i dont do this i will have my trinket shown as the spell 🙂
yeah thats why you put CA first innit
lofty depot
Which brings the funny thing about people putting items first in the macro and not the spell
unique bolt
When do we craft ring of earthern craftsmanshi? I can only get Jaster diamond on HC.
fervent merlin
Pulling a knight in 2025..
Just a good example of when holding for a little is beneficial .
scenic mist
When do we craft ring of earthern craftsmanshi? I can only get Jaster diamond on...
Only a sim can tell you
unique bolt
Only a sim can tell you
Cheers. Then I stay with Cyrce's and jastor diamond cuz sims says it
scenic mist
But ballpark estimation is jastorHC + cyrce > crafted ring
lofty depot
Which ballpark?
scenic mist
Which ballpark?
The one my dog loves
lofty depot
Isn't that a dogpark
scenic mist
Isn't that a dogpark
If you have balls in it, its a ballpark init ?
lofty depot
No
scenic mist
You got me there
grim hull
how does the "starsurge when overcapping" work in reality? Do you just alternate builder -> spender to nearly cap, use it once, nearly cap, use it once or do you just dash out 2 surges to make sure not to cap? if i try to play it very close i cap often, but maybe it is me being bad and taking that guideline to serious?
lofty depot
Ballpark is where baseball is played innit
lofty depot
how does the "starsurge when overcapping" work in reality? Do you just alternate...
Well having asp for movement is part.of th minmax of dpsing
So not over using ur asp for fun is basically that line
scenic mist
how does the "starsurge when overcapping" work in reality? Do you just alternate...
The first option
You wanna stay as high ASP as you can, always, to be moré flexible
lofty depot
But the idea is to wrath until near cap then press surge 1 time
In practicality... U dump surges at the start of eclipse, wrath tip near cap a surge. Wrath then surge. Generally speaking ull get 5-7 surges in an eclipse outside of cds and want to have asp going into your next eclipse to stack starlord again
grim hull
thank you. I do dump them for starlord then get the energy near cap, alternate and repeat the dump when starlord nearly falls off. Do you also try to stay at the cap during incarn aside from starlord upkeep or are you more liberal with surge usage there?
lofty depot
Dependa what ur talking about. In raid, u try to dump surges during the trees window
ancient slate
Is there a way to remove star fall screen clutter? All that blue shit falling down the screen? Spell settings is only on essential
lucid olive
No
theres a glyph to make it yellow instead if you want?
tbh the more you play the spec the less you notice it
ancient slate
Maybe yellow will make it more bearable
lucid olive
I can only see the line that shows where my Starfall range ends at this point, the rest is just blocked out
grim hull
thought in general, that there might not be that much of a difference, but tree window makes sense
thanks again
lofty depot
24% dam increase
Outside of that u can likely surge a few times at the end of incarn. Then u have none for the start of ur next eclipse
So trade offs
crisp gyro
hey friends if i post my loggs here and my friend will u tell me what i do wrong? he is way better than me
fervent merlin
crisp gyro
its my floodgate 15
and his
like i get that he does higher keys
but his dmg is waaay bigger
i dont know am i casting something less often than him or somethin
i wanna get better as a chicken, please let me know where i can improve
dry compass
Someone teach this man how to use the WCL compare view
fervent merlin
Artic will cook
dry compass
Looking at the floodgates, you have way more haste but fewer casts across all spells
crisp gyro
im sorry friends im new to this
dry compass
You also have 3 deaths compared to 1
crisp gyro
ok than i have a few questions if i may
dry compass
If you as a boomie have 50 less casts of Starfire across the key
Despite higher haste
You are failing at rule #1: always be casting
Whether that's cancelling or bad moving or just straight up dying
And less starfires means less asp means less spenders
pseudo merlin
Isn't pressing starfire like 95% of what you boomies do
dry compass
And less lunation procs which means less foes
crisp gyro
ok and if i may can you have a look how many times i used WoE and he did?
fervent merlin
Dying 3 times on last boss not ideal either
dry compass
It's pretty hard to understate how much fewer Starfire casts propagates through the spec to tank your dam
dry compass
ok and if i may can you have a look how many times i used WoE and he did?
You both have 31 casts of woe
That ain't it homie
It's gonna be some combo of cancels + bad movement + munching dreamstates
lucid olive
Well he could be using WoE at better times and not munch up Dreamstate stacks
which also leads to more Starfire casts
dry compass
Yus
dry compass
I'd also sim your character
I have a hard time believing your haste is supposed to be that high
crisp gyro
oke that may be stupid but
how to simm properly? 5 min patchwerk? for m+ only i dont do raids
fervent merlin
Just do 5m 1 target
pseudo merlin
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pYzhANZ2pzT2RtQEZ39BLP
Never sim stat weights
When people tell you to sim they're referring to top gear and droptimizer
dry compass
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pYzhANZ2pzT2RtQEZ39BLP
Stat weight sims are generally hard to interpret in that way
pseudo merlin
You shouldnt ever use stat weights or priorities or bis lists OR bloodmallet
dry compass
You need to really know what you're looking at to get value out of a stat weight sim
pseudo merlin
There's no right way to interpret stat weights
The scale factors aren't even relevant for TWW
dry compass
Do a top Gear sim and add all the gem/enchant options
pseudo merlin
Not to mention they don't include trinkets, tier sets, procs and other gizmos
dry compass
Which will tell you not only if your stats are out of balance, but also how to fix it if they are
lofty depot
Artic will cook
He waited too long
I was at home for lunch
M+ logs on mobile, miss me
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296>
Always and forever
pseudo merlin
dry compass
Man that clan tag is some spicy bullshit bait
pseudo merlin
It's crazy how stat weights stopped being relevant literally like 13 years ago
And we're still talking about em
lofty depot
Grr I want 30k haste
lofty depot
I'm a mage, I have 30k
dry compass
*I'm a mage, I have 30k*
boreal brook
On Mug'Zee will bombs and/or the invulnerable MKII's eat casts from convoke?
If so, is it worth playing around? Holding convoke, or trying to position so it only hits boss, or do you just full send?
lofty depot
It do be worth to position urself out of range of them yes
But it eats wrath casts... So isn't pog, but shrug
teal minnow
Which will tell you not only if your stats are out of balance, but also how to f...
Like chakras? Will I need to get my divining rod as well?
lucid olive
There's no right way to interpret stat weights
stat weight users will go "ha ha haste is better than mastery for me now so I should equip a haste item, let's see on droptimizer which item i should equip"
and not just cut out the middle man and go to droptimizer to begin with
arctic gazelle
Trying to figure out the formatting for a macro that shifts into bear form, and hits frenzied regen. I knwo it will be multiple button presses, and thtas fine. But all my attempts either dont cast frenzied regen, or just spam me back out of bear form
lucid olive
what button is your macro on
and is that button on the action bar that changes when you shift into bear form
arctic gazelle
no. that bar doesnt change when i shift forms
lucid olive
you'd need to add a check to not cast while in stance 1 or something
teal minnow
/cast [nostance:1] Bear Form
/cast Frenzied Regeneration
Or /cast [nostance:1] Bear Form; Frenzied Regeneration
arctic gazelle
that did it. thanks!
pseudo merlin
stat weight users will go "ha ha haste is better than mastery for me now so I sh...
real
zealous gorge
if i want to accurately sum my character for an on use trinket vs a proc trinket for aoe, how many minutes do you think i should sim for?
round field
mdt sim
zealous gorge
what’s that?
boreal brook
if i want to accurately sum my character for an on use trinket vs a proc trinket...
It depends on the circumstance you are simming for.
If it's a boss that will take your guild 5 minutes, sim for 5 minutes.
If it's for dungeons, do an MDT sim.
zealous gorge
@boreal brook yeah i only do m+. is MDT sim a Dungeon slice?
boreal brook
It's explained on dreamgrove website
It takes a WA and pulls a route from MDT to actually simulate the dungeon
Dungeon slice sim isn't well supported, and recommended that you don't use it
white flint
If I play signet, which is the correct alignment of cds and trinket throughout the fight?
scenic mist
If I play signet, which is the correct alignment of cds and trinket throughout t...
only signet, no other on use trinket or weapon ?
white flint
only signet, no other on use trinket or weapon ?
Nope, no BiS, other trink is mug
scenic mist
then line up with your 2min burst aka CA/trees/convoke (for single target)
eager raft
Ok so I was kinda right
scenic mist
I'm level 72
he was right though, DF lvl dps
pseudo merlin
ye
white flint
then line up with your 2min burst aka CA/trees/convoke (for single target)
So I'm doing inc+trees+signet+convoke on pull, then inc+trees, then I hold everything until 2 mins?
scenic mist
So I'm doing inc+trees+signet+convoke on pull, then inc+trees, then I hold every...
everything but trees
scenic mist
So I'm doing inc+trees+signet+convoke on pull, then inc+trees, then I hold every...
should look like this
CA/trees/voke/trinket
CA/trees/BIS
trees
CA/trees/voke/trinket
trees/BIS
trees
CA/trees/voke/trinket
trees/BIS
trees
...
BIS will desync but just send on a tree
hidden plaza
Hi, can someone tell me (or send me) a build for low m+ keys? I think elunes chosen build isnt really worth for 10-12 keys
scenic mist
Hi, can someone tell me (or send me) a build for low m+ keys? I think elunes cho...
is there such a thing as "worth it" on a +12 though
white flint
should look like this
Thanks mate
hidden plaza
is there such a thing as "worth it" on a +12 though
Maybe there is a better build for such keys^^
ionic oak
You can do the keepers one. In pins compendium.
But you should be fine to chill with either or for that key range
hidden plaza
Ty!
eager raft
Free respectable
On god
scenic mist
You can cd at 3:45
just wait 15sec
slim iris
Would have to hold treants
scenic mist
take advantage of control of the dream
trees dictate your cds
pull
30sec (45-15 of control)
1min15
2min
2min45
3min30
4min15
it's actually the voke that is delayed 15sec thx to control
slim iris
Thank you
eager raft
Yeah that’s the best way to do it if you won’t lose a usage, imo
You’ll lose some control value tho
eager raft
Yeah from convoke
eager raft
You get it back at like 350
round field
just wait 15sec
boss die
scenic mist
You get it back at like 350
should be precisly that yeah
you pressed it like 5sec into the fight, so
5sec
1min50, delayed to 2min05 to wait for trees, get full control value
3min50 it's back up
eager raft
scenic mist
boss die
obv you can play around fight length to better manage cds, i was just speaking in general terms
eager raft
I spreadsheeted the fuck outta cd timings in s1 I am a savant now
slim iris
Groundbreaking stuff
winter tapir
gotta call for a ring of peace on those jawns
lofty depot
Wesdiaz doesn't know when to press cds
jolly delta
And Amiszilla loves Starfire too much
lofty depot
With th stix build they should be spamming starfall
winter tapir
tress incarn 8x starfall
lofty depot
We generate a lot of asp with said build and need to spend it
dusk dragon
Isn't this more of optimized way of using cds for the bombshells?
slim iris
Banned
dusk dragon
As I have folks from RLEs also chiming in about our boomkins
slim iris
Are you losing it
lofty depot
Isn't this more of optimized way of using cds for the bombshells?
Yeas, could press dots instead of wrath. But nonehteless
pseudo merlin
yes
jolly delta
Hey guys, can I get some insights on how our boomkins are trolling us on Stix?
but also maybe
stop looking at the druids
lofty depot
To comment on the damage take ING part. They're likely standing in shit location and tanks can't gather shit
jolly delta
when no one is doing damage to the bombshells
dusk dragon
Yeah but Boomkins are the MVP for doing damage to bombshells, do you agree?
lofty depot
That's not true
dusk dragon
Well Spriest came in the last hour so that log is a little skewed but he did have issues on Barrels for Rik as well
lofty depot
There's are plenty of classes that can do damage to the.
winter tapir
should look at damage above 80% hp if thats whats wiping you
dusk dragon
Not hitting the bombs are wiping us mainly, but I want to try get bombshells handled quickly and effectively
lofty depot
I'm on mobile and cba
lofty depot
Didn't ask
slim iris
Still did all this
lofty depot
Keep yourself safe
slim iris
You are just handicap
lofty depot
Tell wesdiaz to stop using CDs on pull
dusk dragon
Yeah he questioned me about that since he talks to Sepe about it
dusk dragon
Apparently some top boomkin but yeah w.e
maiden pasture
popping on pull is fine if ur gonna taunt the first ball
otherwise dont bother
but as moonkin in this fight the only cast that should be on anything thats not the boss is kick
stone ledge
I dread the stix reclear
lofty depot
popping on pull is fine if ur gonna taunt the first ball
Yea but he's not doing thag
maiden pasture
dakd 🐐
lofty depot
There's 2 logs in the top 50 that used CDs on pull
maiden pasture
whats the bet that theyre both like
single moonkin
no ele shaman
nvm, the usaby guy is 2x moonkin
but
lofty depot
No on plays ele so idk
lofty depot
Still waiting on him to play ec
maiden pasture
the only boss u could play EC on is bandit i feel like
EC on stix is just shit
less asp gen
no free moonfires
EC only good if ur force ur whole team to go afk and not cleave in melee i swear
eager raft
ec probably so omega dog shit even on oab
maiden pasture
yeah i mean probably
the only saving grace is
boss is often on at least 1 add
and the booty adds go through boss
lucid olive
i send CDs on pull on stix
if i save CDs and then get rando picked on the 1st ball
thats monka
maiden pasture
valid
eager raft
Just be a taunter
I didn’t taunt this week cuz I wanted to roll the dice that I wouldn’t get picked for a ball at all
and then I still got first ball
eager raft
I asked to be sat on that fight next week
eager raft
either sit me or tell everyone else they’re not allowed to aoe
golden belfry
based
exotic perch
either sit me or tell everyone else they’re not allowed to aoe
trueeee
lofty depot
either sit me or tell everyone else they’re not allowed to aoe
U play bm
eager raft
I play bala dudu on that boss
lofty depot
Tragic
eager raft
I need to do a druid full clear soon
But I’m 2 weeks behind on dinar already so I’m not really in a hurry
eager raft
I need to find a group to do alt raids with
lucid olive
we recruited a german full time streamer to the guild and he does 6/8m viewer raids so we just pile on those usually
maiden pasture
we recruited a german full time streamer to the guild and he does 6/8m viewer ra...
u gotta get me in 
meager storm
dak popped on pull AND didnt taunt
We never did it on prog, ain’t doing it on reclear for a boss that doesn’t count
meager storm
scenic mist
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748631574412787762/1380651887476609055/im...
always a nice word
scarlet tapir
ye we wiped on boss
lucid olive
bring in the prediction pins
pseudo merlin
surely
scenic mist
pseudo merlin
next tier im 1 button raiding on bamkin
pseudo merlin
lucid olive
ravec is 1 button raiding on pink class
pseudo merlin
1 braincell raiding
ret actually has multiple buttons
it just doesnt matter how you press them
yooo we're almost there
eyo cartel chip catchup
scarlet tapir
ong od?
wicked shuttle
ravec is 1 button raiding on pink class
1 button op on destro warlock
pseudo merlin
Is destro still just pressing chaos bolt when you have damage amps on you, I doubt it will account for that
pseudo merlin
ngl that kinda banged
lofty depot
Gonna come in handy for sure
pseudo merlin
@lucid olive why is my MF not hitting 2 targets
MFing out of combat targets = GG get fucked?
lofty depot
If they're out of combat yes
pseudo merlin
christ
scenic mist
Gonna come in handy for sure
@steel ore fyi
scenic mist
MFing out of combat targets = GG get fucked?
in that case i tend to start with sunfire, so i get every mob in combat
pseudo merlin
yeah but im just pulling for the tank in these leveling dungeons
signal temple
Gonna come in handy for sure
pseudo merlin
damn yall remember this
pseudo merlin
HAHAH
maiden pasture
from that one ring that did like 0 damage
pseudo merlin
I also still had my leave party, cast IQD macro
maiden pasture
💀
pseudo merlin
/script LeaveParty()
/use 14
/target lasttarget
/whisper Raidleader inv
/click StaticPopup1Button1
/cast Celestial Alignment
/cancelaura Starlord
/cast convoke the spirits```
pseudo merlin
Holy shit that was degenerate tech
orchid ember
I don't miss IQD thats for sure
pseudo merlin
It's coming back next season isn't it
orchid ember
I don't want to think about that
arctic rock
Hi, I'm new to playing Druid and chose Balance, but is Feral better/easier to level with?
lucid olive
balance or guardian
lucid olive
destro is 2m
maiden pasture
what even is 3m anymore then
arctic rock
balance or guardian
Thanks, I chose leather working so I could make my gear and herb for the gold. Is this good for professions or should I have chose different?
lucid olive
what even is 3m anymore then
shaman if they decide to spec it
but there's more of a case for shaman to spec 3m ascendance than other specs for their choices
lucid olive
Thanks, I chose leather working so I could make my gear and herb for the gold. I...
professions don't really matter that much
you can choose whatever you think is cool and you vibe with
if it makes sense for your druid to be a leatherworker then thats a good idea, its entirely up to preference and flavor
eager raft
and theres like 1 or 2 3m specs left?
just dont use whirling or syzygy
and we're 3 min
pseudo merlin
and theres like 1 or 2 3m specs left?
yeah and they're fixing that too innit
they want everyone at 2 or something
lucid olive
they homogenize everything until every spec is the same
then realize they fucked up and then change everything again
it goes in cycles
pseudo merlin
vital hound
next tier we're OP in raid
do you wanna gamble on this
sick cipher
any ideas why my force of nature cursor cast isnt working? I still have to press then left click, it's not dropping it on my cursor
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Force of Nature
/use 13
lucid olive
did you place it on the right action bar or one that changes
lucid olive
yeah no idea
i just copied your macro and it works for me
relog
or make 100% absolutely sure that you didn't place it on your action bar and then shapeshift and the action bar changed
lucid olive
oh yeah might need to have it written in your language i guess
pseudo merlin
@sick cipher
lucid olive
spellID might work as well?
pseudo merlin
yep
pseudo merlin
I'm not asking if the macro is in english
i can see that it is
it shouldnt be if you're not
spell names need to be changed to your client language
(or ID)
lucid olive
relog
pseudo merlin
weird
sick cipher
did that already
lucid olive
does pressing it use your trinket