#balance

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livid jay
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In the past we gave everybody the freedom to play what they want were we usually expect them to play what they previsouly played but we had a lot of people swapping between tiers lately and it makes it hard to plan and hard to judge if people can actually play the class

like we just had a survey "what do you want to main next tier" and then we do roster planning after that survey
but now when we look at things that could improve our WR, having people play what they actually can play and being able to plan better and earlier would mean we need to overthink that

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thats why im asking if anybody has any input on how they do it

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"are you not safe to assume they will be playing whatever they're currently playing"
Is that how it is usually done? Cause that would obviously make sense but we have/had some players with severe zoomer adhd brains who cant play the same spec two tiers in a row

vale pebble
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if anyone wants to swap after tier dm me if not i will assume u play the same thing

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u will always have some ppl that will swap to fotm

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lastminute

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if u cant affort ur rogue to swap to ur 4th dk u just tell him

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if u want to swap to dk u wont be seeing any play next tier

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and he wont swap

livid nebula
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❤️

pallid bay
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we have everyone planned out, get their alts up to speed so we can asses them during farm, some we know can just reroll anything ofc

jade flume
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Yeah its the same for us basically. Most people would play the same thing, if u wanted to swap you would discuss with a officers. If its not a terrible idea then they wouldnt mind

pallid bay
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but we definitely assume you will play what you have been playing unless you've explicitly told us you want to swap

jade flume
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I always said before tier i will play whatever makes the most sense, either fotm or missing raid buff and just swap last second when we knew what we want

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Most people played the same shit tho

pallid bay
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but like our OTP warlock showing up as rogue for a new tier without notice would not work LOLW

vale pebble
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we have 1 guy that wanted to swap after the tier

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and hes known to just swap around

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rest stay the same

livid jay
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yea we usually just did that survey and had 5+ people swapping mains each tier which was fine for wr600 but maybe not below that, we probably gonna change how we do it, thanks!

royal zenith
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time for 11.2 news

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moonkin reworks

livid jay
pallid bay
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false

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hero tree tiersets will fix the game

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no need for reworks

vale pebble
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quote me on that

pallid bay
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keep coping buddy

scarlet tapir
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Do u think hero talents will always be the same or they will change it each expansion

livid jay
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dont think they will generally change but they will change for individual classes with reworks

scarlet tapir
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They should do both

livid jay
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would be cool if they would change with the narrative of the story but this expansions hero talents for boomies are not really xalatath/void driven so ye

fossil hemlock
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I would honestly be surprised if each class doesn't get a void-infused one

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Which would be a bit weird for spriest specifically but it is what it is

sudden flame
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blud thinks they are fixing the boomkin tree when they already used all their designated dev time on the class tree changes catpointingandlaughingemoji

royal zenith
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6 more years of this bullshit

sudden flame
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6 more years of being insanely over tuned in m+ sounds pretty good to me

royal zenith
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what's hero talent design got to do with tuning

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are you one of those twitch chatters?

fossil hemlock
iron chasm
royal zenith
teal minnow
royal zenith
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skill issue though

fossil hemlock
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My death count can't go up, I'm dead every pull anyway

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😎

scarlet tapir
jade flume
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Biceps are real tho

severe hollow
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Not mine

iron chasm
jade flume
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Logs may be bicep, but bicep is also bicep

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Dont never forget that

teal minnow
quiet drift
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Cinema?

obsidian jetty
round field
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Cry is free

misty glade
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Lol unfortunately frenzy is never coming back

vale pebble
round field
drifting nova
fervent merlin
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Remove orbital strike so we never have chance of taking that again pls

drifting nova
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Remove optional talents

royal zenith
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remove kekkers from discord

drifting nova
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You have no power here, warlock

vale pebble
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ur also doing gods work kekkers keep it up

vale pebble
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if u want to unironically talk about it

fervent merlin
vale pebble
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L take

fervent merlin
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L button

white flint
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quick question, on cauldron, do you go ST all the time? or you starfall in intermission?

jade flume
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St

maiden sparrow
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Assuming you’re keeper’s for raid

jade flume
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I see homies cast starfall in logs tho for some reason

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So maybe its starfall angel idk

pallid bay
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naah

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you're not hitting both unless your tank decides you should be able to

fossil hemlock
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Probably asking about intermission

pallid bay
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and even then you'll just end up not hitting both for a period of time

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which in that case you shouldnt play aoe talents

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and pressing starfall in intermission is worse

lucid olive
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Starfall on Cauldron is a vibe button

pallid bay
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there's no vibe about pressing another spender

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if anything its a worse vibe having less movement gcds

obsidian jetty
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the vibe is keeping up stellar amp on both targets with surge

pallid bay
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basege

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you dot both on pull though

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you could probably skip moonfire on the far one and drop trees on it instead

obsidian jetty
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dot monkey, dot trex, cd, 3x surge trex, voke monkey, play normal til movement, refresh trex during the first movement

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and can sometimes get a resurge on trex as well there for more amp

round field
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just hit boss

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why bother with all that just to lose to random cn or kr boomie

obsidian jetty
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I only play the game to attempt and beat them.

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Why even play otherwise

round field
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not very good at it

lucid olive
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having fun with the boys

round field
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do better

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recruitie not even front page

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how the mighty have fallen

obsidian jetty
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I'm pooling, we got like 4 more buffs

lucid olive
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ramping for sure

livid jay
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found a way to check who dies first in all pulls across all prog and 20 seconds before raid wipe
(blacked out names for privacy :D)

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interesting metric

delicate perch
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unblack out yours rn

livid jay
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😄

delicate perch
livid jay
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i have not normalized it by this yet tho:

delicate perch
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why has aug risen again

livid jay
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nobody even plays that

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sorted by parses

jovial hare
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Yes pls

livid jay
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i'll dm you (it requires you to pay warcraftlogs)

drifting nova
cerulean summit
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is getting title and being in a hof guild roughly around the same difficulty scale or is one a lot harder than the other?

lofty depot
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Oh tragic

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I knew that way

lofty depot
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^^

livid jay
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yah its basically warcraftlogs multi log analysis but u can still not check all so u gotta do it in steps and then accumulate per player after in some excel file or so

lofty depot
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Kekkers giving correct info. Crazy world

drifting nova
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look at pilav (who I assume is close idk)

pallid bay
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is it though

vale pebble
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glhf finding 4 other idiots with the same goals and schedule as u

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if ur pugging it its more time

vale pebble
pallid bay
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yeah but u're not pugging

vale pebble
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hof is world 250

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u can be in 1day guild in 250

pallid bay
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is there any 1 day guild wr250

vale pebble
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surely right

orchid ember
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There's a lot of one day guilds out there but none that I know of that are hof

gleaming shoal
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Heyo, how are you simming for balance in m+? and should I be playing keeper of the grove for m+ below a certain key level?

lucid olive
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1 target 5 minute patchwerk or MDT sim

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play whatever talents you feel comfortable on

gleaming shoal
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simming mdt while pugging tho isnt kinda troll? meaning, I dont think Ill ever do the same route xP thats why I was wondering, since dungeon slice doesnt seem accurate for balance

round field
livid jay
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that thing doesnt exist

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sim 1T5min and call it a day

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i mean, you can ask your tank before every pug to link their route, check if its fine for mdt and tell them give me 5 minutes i need to sim my gear 😄

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or you just play 1% better

karmic root
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might be a dumb question, but is it ever worth to overcap ap while dotting a massive pull? or would you weave in starfalls while dotting?

lofty depot
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Did u read the prio list

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hint, it's the 3rd line

karmic root
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alright, ty.

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What about FoE? heard a lot of mixed opinions on it, in big pulls where your moonfiring alot, they just rip a foe on pull with no eclipse, then just moonfire as its giving enough cdr. Is that usually the play?

lofty depot
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Who is "they"

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Cuz no, generally not doing that

karmic root
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Spoke to dwilkz, he sometimes does it, and some other streamer said "sometimes".

lofty depot
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Would have to be a big ass pull

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To be worth it

karmic root
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Okay yeah, dwilkz does it on the big pull in Cinderbrew from what i saw watching his streams

lofty depot
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U want foe for ur cds

royal zenith
lofty depot
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Yes

royal zenith
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cause it's pretty easy to overcap if you pop everything

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especially beginning of pull setting up

lofty depot
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That answer is for foe

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Ur talking about starfall

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And again, that's line 3

royal zenith
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I'm just talking in general

lofty depot
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Ur asking about overcap

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And it's quite literally stated

royal zenith
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the prio list is good and all, but I think it's better to look at specific situations

lofty depot
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?

royal zenith
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aka first question should be what situation are we talking about

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🙂

jade flume
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True

pallid bay
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True

royal zenith
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28 more minutes to go

lofty depot
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The first question is answered with press starfall if ur gonna overcap

royal zenith
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okay I just got aggro from all the shitter mobs in cinderbrew 19

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gg's

lofty depot
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Get a better tank

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Gg

royal zenith
karmic root
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It would defo be better to hold starfall there tho, if it’s going to make you rip aggro

lofty depot
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U moonfire like what 10-12 times. Then are capped. If tank doesn't have aggro, u should seek a new tank

lucid olive
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just dot everything, press foe and incarn and start slamming

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don't overthink it

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spending with Starfall while dotting is technically an increase but it also adds globals in your ramp before you can start doing dam

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if the pull is lasting like a minute it's probably worth doing but you don't really enter a pull with the mentality that the pull should last long, if that makes sense

lofty depot
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Gamz isn't doing 20s so he's not used to the pulls lasting long

royal zenith
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well that's kinda the important factor here

royal zenith
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you'd dot all the shitters too, if the mobs live long enough

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which definitely makes it more probable to overcap

lofty depot
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What a chad

royal zenith
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and that's the original question

lucid olive
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high key doers definitely dot the shitters too

lofty depot
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Lol, my hpal wanted to push last weekend and the weekend before then go busy

jade flume
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If u arent doing 20s still ur a noober

lucid olive
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love watching yarrgi stream and seeing him frog perspective the camera to see all the nameplates for the first 15 seconds of a pull

lucid olive
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also how is Tuna doing

jade flume
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Nah im a noober

jade flume
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Tuna seems pretty good tbh

lucid olive
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can you fail his trial so we get our healer back

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shit..

nova prawn
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How do you all survive in dungeons? I’m 662 ilvl and even doing the mechanics I still find my healthbar panicky (pulsating aoe for example) and only having barkskin and renewal isn’t helping and dps goes to 0 in bear form… (these were 10’s)

lofty depot
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Press frenzied regen

nova prawn
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Bear form only and when we leave bear form it gets rid of it 😦

lofty depot
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So don't leave

nova prawn
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But then I’m not doing damage…

lofty depot
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Welcome to boomkin

wraith yew
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yo any fix for macro bricking after running orbital strike

lofty depot
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Yea, don't run orbital strike

wraith yew
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yes im not

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but macro still broke

lofty depot
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Clearly u were

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Log out and back in

wraith yew
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ty

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yes i was

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not now tho

fossil shard
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Youre either standing in shit or your healer isn’t great

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If your health bar is yo-yoing

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Bark and or renewal should be fine for the majority of stuff, with bear for overlaps and stuff

nova prawn
fossil shard
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Logs from raid? You said dungeons

scarlet tapir
# lucid olive

he cant play m+ he has to lock in for his 20th week gally kill

iron geyser
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anyone know how i can make iteam a Great vault iteam appear in simc from search tab?

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i know i can use it on the vault but i wanna make a crafted piece a part of it as well

sudden flame
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just add the crafted piece in the item search

ocean atlas
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hey, hello every1, mby some kind soul can help me with something i cant understand in the sims im doing, i got eye of kezhan on vault im try to sim it with some tier set variations and stuffs but i would like to know what are the diference between this 2 results, the obvius think y to say pants, but those are the pants i already have equiped

lucid olive
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the ones you have equipped are dragonflight enchants

ocean atlas
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so the diference is just the enchat?

lucid olive
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i don't see anything else in there really

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also can't find the specific iterations you sent screenshots of, are you sure its the same sim

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nevermind

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i didn't have this clicked

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but yeah there's not any other difference there really

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if you click "equipped" instead of top gear you see the 0.7% gap happens on the iterations that use the right pant enchant

ocean atlas
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ty so much

lucid olive
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also get this weakaura

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so you don't buy dragonflight enchants again

lofty depot
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Kezan only good on 1 fight

ocean atlas
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yeah im been complety out luck for trinkets this and the previus season, an my gould struggle so hard to kill the good bosses :/

lucid olive
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you have heroic wax trinket from darkflame

scarlet tapir
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hmmm

lucid olive
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upgrade and use that one

lucid olive
scarlet tapir
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yea

lucid olive
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yeah you have the weakaura already

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you just didn't know it

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it's in essentials

proud raptor
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Hello stupid question that is not dudu releated if I have finished main story for undermine can I farm rep on other chars or need to be specific on this char that I finished it ? rep for black coat

ocean atlas
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the rep is account wide, so no matter with wich char u farm it, buy normaly u cannot do twice the same thing , that dont give double rep

digital berry
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forgot to turn in dinar quest last week so i dont get a third dinar this week

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i love this game

lofty depot
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Rekt

slow cairn
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Is Entropic Skardyn Core any good? I got a mythic one in vault and when I simmed it on Patwek (Elune's Chosen) It seemed to pair with Heroic Mug.

lofty depot
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Is good

digital berry
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It is absolutely ridiculous that there is no catchup and that last weeks quest turned in today counts for this week

lofty depot
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o7 ur parses for the rest of the tier

digital berry
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FOMO is strong

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i wanted my myth HoC or jastors

lofty depot
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Maybe next week

slow cairn
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If I am in single target raid build. Heroic HoC and Mug sim higher.

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But i dont raid on boomy.

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And dungeon slice doesnt work for boomy either.

digital berry
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i wanted to break into the 3M gang TE_Sadge

leaden birch
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I won't be able to break into the 3M gang until we down OAB sadge

royal zenith
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guess it's all just fake

paper owl
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!macros

lucid olive
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!pins

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!compendium

rare parcel
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Anyone has the macro for using the BiS weapon only in combat?

sudden pawn
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!penis

slim iris
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Anyone have an autokick macro

maiden pasture
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Why do you need that tho

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When are you pressing the macro not in combat

mighty mica
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1t5m for lazy sim or MDT for a more confident sim, check the compendium for more info

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yes

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it's covered in the compendium

lucid olive
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check compendium faq for more info

eager raft
royal zenith
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:fake:

empty girder
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Hi Guys, just to confirm is Mythic Signet of the Priory better than Heroic HoC? I tried to sim but it is not much difference and HoC is 1:30 cd

marsh kelp
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i thought circlet would only be replaced with mythic rings. I just did a ST and AOE sim and crafted + heroic jastor sims higher in AOE, and almost equal in ST. Am I doing something wrong?

earnest barn
astral forum
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What’s the addon or weak aura that verbally announces bug CDs like ‘convoke spirits’ I keep hearing it on boomkin POVs on YouTube and I can’t see any answers in the comments

pseudo merlin
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@lucid olive @royal zenith @lofty depot @vale pebble which spec for dungeon leveling 70-80

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which talents*

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do I just use compendium m+ ?

marsh kelp
pseudo merlin
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@pallid bay srry forgot you

civic junco
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anyone got a good Best-in-Slots weakaura that will yell at me to swap weapon from agi to int and vice versa?

digital berry
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You only have to do it once

civic junco
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I checked wago, but they are all around seeing what buff you have up

royal zenith
slim iris
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Bro pinged 5 people to ask for leveling talents

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And I get timed out for it

pseudo merlin
jovial hare
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Lmao

pseudo merlin
slim iris
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My spec for leveling is

civic junco
slim iris
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Buy boost

royal zenith
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@pseudo merlin do I stack crit for leveling on paladin

slim iris
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Copy paste m+ talents at 80

pseudo merlin
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im poor as shit

slim iris
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Boost

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Buy boost

pseudo merlin
royal zenith
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got it

hollow silo
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Guys am I blind or best in slots weapon doesnt have intellect? Whats the point for druids then

pseudo merlin
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it swaps

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click it

jovial hare
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Tooltip

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Read

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Wee

hollow silo
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Oh lovely

pseudo merlin
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(yes youre blind)

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kill me

hollow silo
pseudo merlin
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Hey you suggested it!

jovial hare
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You asked if you were blind they just answered Smile

pseudo merlin
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do people run tindral pugs yet

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i still dont have fire chicken

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@slim iris

grizzled shoal
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there's always a group up for that raid

slim iris
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Yes

pseudo merlin
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oh poggies

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was there a higherchance on mythic or no

slim iris
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Idr

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I don’t think so

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I play glyph of stars so

pseudo merlin
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not based

slim iris
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Ok bro

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You could not pay me

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To play in moonkin form

pseudo merlin
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someone paid me once to vanish my glyph of stars

ancient slate
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Is it generally recommended to do an on cursor macro for Chosen of Elune?

pseudo merlin
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wait why is convoke purple now

slim iris
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If you are referring to orbital strike

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Most people play whirling stars

lucid olive
digital berry
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Who calls incarn chosen of elune

lucid olive
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same reason too

shut trench
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is mdt sim a good option for boomies?

pseudo merlin
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ah

slim iris
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Covenant ability visuals were changed a few patches ago

digital berry
slim iris
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If you know what they mean

digital berry
ancient slate
digital berry
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Im stupid

shut trench
ancient slate
digital berry
digital berry
pseudo merlin
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ngl the server icon bangs

lofty depot
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That'll show him

ancient slate
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What a silly sausage

stone ledge
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Need a weakaura for whenever entering dorn in big bold text to turn that mf in

eager raft
pseudo merlin
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real

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😠

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@mighty mica

lofty depot
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What does it bang?

pseudo merlin
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icon still bangs though

mighty mica
pseudo merlin
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hi ❤️

lofty depot
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Ravec thinks it bangs

midnight bough
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What disaster duo gives?

lofty depot
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Did u check wowhead

quiet drift
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The background needs to transparent

lofty depot
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So true bestie

quiet drift
midnight bough
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Yea like a toy and a mount after 4 weeks?

pseudo merlin
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lasagna or carbonara?

midnight bough
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But maybe wowhead is missing stuff seems like not a lot

lofty depot
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Maybe they timegated the info

midnight bough
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Is that legal

lofty depot
pseudo merlin
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flight form dont work in dawnbreaker??

eager raft
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It does

pseudo merlin
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nah farm

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fam

eager raft
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👍

pseudo merlin
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ok nvm i think my binds are tripping

vagrant isle
# eager raft Wokegrove

Wowhead banned me from their server for asking about those colors. No one celebrates my month. I don't feel included. irony

royal zenith
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Sprout talking

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Sussy

lofty depot
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Wonder what his colors are

slim iris
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What’s this dudes month

royal zenith
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what will the burner account say

eager raft
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its turtle

royal zenith
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turtle would pull a dif angle

lofty depot
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Does look like a turtle type name

slim iris
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Turtle doesn’t use punctuation

vagrant isle
mighty mica
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well?

lofty depot
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Answer question

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Me curious

proud raptor
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any 1 have issue logging in the char that is in main hall in undermine

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I cant log 3 of my chars

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it just dc me

midnight bough
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How does someone get colors

lofty depot
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Gotta be gang initiated

slim iris
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And then log back in

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Or you can do unstuck

lofty depot
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U tryna join cuh?

proud raptor
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tryed unstuck and get another char there aswell

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and he got stucked too

random mason
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a knew druid was a gay class

lofty depot
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Type shit

calm ibex
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True

lofty depot
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Damn thyme hasn't said just "shit"

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Was gonna hit him with the @

mighty mica
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unluck

lofty depot
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o7

plucky valley
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Happy gay month

signal temple
lofty depot
plucky valley
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Yes when do you need it?

lofty depot
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Before july

plucky valley
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Can’t do it

lofty depot
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What the

signal temple
lofty depot
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looks up who Nathan Lane is

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Oh, he was in mouse hunt

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I know that guy

signal temple
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Of all the roles

lofty depot
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Rotten tomatoes don't know shit

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Mouse Hunt walked so Rattettoueie could run

signal temple
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Is that Mouse Hunt?

orchid ember
lofty depot
signal temple
civic junco
lofty depot
orchid ember
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Yep

lofty depot
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Yessem

orchid ember
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can't believe you didn't call him Ferris beuller tho

lofty depot
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Gotta hittem with the bottom of their list movie rolls

orchid ember
plain nest
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I have 671 main hand a 671 offhand should I craft the 681 2hander?

digital berry
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But also most likely yeah

plain nest
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simming right now

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2hander it is! thank you 🙂

cerulean wagon
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so i have simmed heroic Mug, HoC, and Eye

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and Mug/HoC sim higher

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and are higher on blood mallet, is there a string i should be including for Eye

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or is it what it is

lofty depot
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  1. Don't use bloodmallet
  2. Eye is only good on fights that last longer than 5m
cerulean wagon
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awesome, looks like im going to use my chips for a heroic Mug then

tardy vortex
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HoC is simming lower than my other trinks.... at least on ST. I don't understand the mdi sim so I won't attempt it.

lofty depot
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What other trinkets

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So is there a question in there or

tardy vortex
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myth brewtilizer and mugz heroic

lofty depot
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Brewtalizer isn't a real trinket so stop that

#

Mugz is good

tardy vortex
#

oh lol. I got it in vault so i was like ok

cerulean wagon
#

keeping in mind i dont mythic raid, i have a 681MH, 675 crafted OH, should i shoot for a crafted 2h, or go for heroic best in slot next?

tardy vortex
#

I think crafted 2h beats BiS

lofty depot
#

Beats hbis

tardy vortex
#

ya

lofty depot
#

Why isn't ur MH 684?

#

Why isn't ur oh 681?

#

So many questions

cerulean wagon
#

and my MH cant be upgraded to 684?

lofty depot
#

U don't craft oh unless u have a MH 684

cerulean wagon
#

ehr, it is 684, sorry

verbal trench
#

is it worth playing incarn around Entropic Skardyn Core's buff similarly to an on use or nah?

I've attempted to modify the apl to squeeze more value out ofthe trinket but havent been able to do better than breaking even with the regular apl in single target. It doesnt make sense to me why it wouldnt be better to play around it though. Feels odd that holding incarn for a 14000 int buff wouldnt do notably better than not.

lofty depot
#

Ok, so then if u have that, sim crafted 681 2h but idk if it beats it

#

But should be fine

cerulean wagon
#

its the MH from Motherlode

lofty depot
#

I don't memorize stats of items

cerulean wagon
#

crit/mast

paper owl
#

anyone has an idea why sims are telling us to pump more haste when my mastery is only about 22k, is that normal

lofty depot
#

Go sim it

#

Also, thank you for your service

lofty depot
#

Haste do be good

unborn rampart
#

is infinite stars pumping rn or something lol

#

why the name bub

lofty depot
#

Why is ur name lannis

#

Bub

unborn rampart
#

answers a question with passive aggressive question

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solid

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thanks bub

lofty depot
#

Get mad about that

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Bub

unborn rampart
#

im not mad

#

but you can assume that and be happy

lofty depot
#

I am

#

And I will

unborn rampart
#

❤️ you seem like a really cool person

lofty depot
#

Thanks

#

@delicate perch

supple haven
#

Sims go brrr and I have to socket crit versa now moonkas

lofty depot
#

Blud took it personally that I asked him the same question he asked me

#

Tragic life

slim iris
#

Arctic and emnitthy stay giving the most annoying responses to people

lofty depot
#

I try

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I'm bored

supple haven
#

We all know you are a bit sensitive arctic

unborn rampart
#

^^

#

bro reaching for a reaction lol

lofty depot
#

Negative

#

Also, to answer ur question, I'm a mage and the DPS diff on all of them is shit

unborn rampart
#

i honestly wouldnt take ur answer seriously

orchid ember
#

Then why ask

lofty depot
#

Don't care

slim iris
#

Would probably ask in the hopes that someone’s gonna respond like a normal person

lofty depot
#

I asked jokingly the same question and he got feelys hurt

slim iris
lofty depot
#

Think some use gushing

lucid olive
#

infinite loss

lofty depot
#

Some use uhhhh, td or w.e. the fuck

unborn rampart
# orchid ember Then why ask

his original response showed nothing of importance. i wanted to originally hear a good reply. but seeing his logic and reaching for angry responses. makes me lose interest on anything he claims

lucid olive
#

ha ha got em

lofty depot
#

I'm glad u lost interest

lucid olive
#

his original response showed nothing of importance. i wanted to originally hear a good reply. but seeing his logic and reaching for angry responses. makes me lose interest on anything he claims

slim iris
#

It’s not that serious

#

Lol

lofty depot
#

It's giga serious

orchid ember
lucid olive
lofty depot
#

Is, tries to think of the one u had in your name, not pumping

digital berry
royal zenith
#

cause its true

lofty depot
#

So true

pallid bay
#

real

unborn rampart
#

Let me live rent free in ur head

lofty depot
#

Parroting

unborn rampart
#

bub

lofty depot
lucid olive
#

wagwan

lofty depot
#

Chill out bub

digital berry
#

why are we so mad on a random Tuesday

warm linden
#

guys, what is the best sim setup for m+ do i go 5 boss 6 min? or is there a better sim setup, don't know if dungeon slice is worth it for boomy

lucid olive
#

1 target 5 minute or MDT sim

#

check Compendium for more information

lofty depot
digital berry
#

and why is that

lofty depot
#

Don't play dumb bub

regal knoll
#

how many sparks should we have already this week?

lofty depot
#

Like 8

digital berry
dense steeple
#

Imagine missing a dinar

#

Bub

lofty depot
#

Gotta think actual... Had I think 5, then got 4 splinters last week catch up thing.... It might actually be 8

#

Maybe 7

digital berry
lucid olive
warm linden
lucid olive
#

also i ignored your DM and answer you in here instead @verbal trench

dense steeple
loud kettle
#

I assume trees wasn't considered

#

So by holding incarn you're losing out on harmony of the grove

lofty depot
loud kettle
lofty depot
#

What if he's playing EC

dense steeple
#

Then he should quit

verbal trench
lucid olive
#

can you send the sim

dense steeple
lucid olive
pallid bay
#

you havnt taught him how to

verbal trench
#

i've never used raidbots advanced mode before.

cerulean summit
#

my heroic jug and mythic house of cards sims less than a mythic signet. Is that normal?

#

idk if there is anything weird with the sims or something

lucid olive
lucid olive
cerulean summit
#

there is a lot of shit in that one that I was simming but apparently mythic house would do 0.6% less

shrewd pivot
#

I'm dumb, what does that keeper of thr grove cdr talent mean exactly and do we play around it

cerulean summit
#

it means you can hold onto trees for 15 seconds without losing a use

lucid olive
#

open the top 2 iterations in quick sims and see how it uses incarn and your trinkets

lucid olive
lucid olive
#

sim with other talents

#

it's mostly bounteous bloom doing it

cerulean summit
#

it is trees, convoke, and ca

lucid olive
#

which is that the trinket doesn't need to be played around

#

you also have a mythic moxie jug so you can just dinar HoC anyway?

verbal trench
#

i cant yet no.

lucid olive
#

gg

verbal trench
#

i have a heroic but the core simmed higher lol

elder remnant
#

where do i put my crafted piece now D:

scarlet tapir
#

stop baiting

elder remnant
#

The ring rolled mast/vers

exotic perch
#

(i know you dont but still thats what they have)

signal temple
dry compass
elder remnant
livid jay
#

OH SHIT SOMEONE DID IT HAHA

lucid olive
elder remnant
livid jay
#

Lol why is that one different than the server icon

#

xD

lofty depot
#

not my fault

signal temple
livid jay
lofty depot
vital hound
delicate perch
#

meanwhile the dh discord kappa

eager cedar
#

so random question, our wild mushroom from the tier set proc, is it supposed to randomly target mobs we aren't in combat with? i just had it send onto braunpyke in Priory and we hadn't even pulled him at all.

i've also seen it go onto a imprisoned target, is that supposed to happen too? its scuffing our pulls so hard sometimes

forest cobalt
#

I got 671 Mugzee and 684 Prioary trinket

#

do i grab house of cards heroic from vault?

#

or is double on use no bueno

delicate perch
delicate perch
#

best way to check is upload log

eager cedar
#

roger. likely the splash

#

didn't know it was as big as it seems it is

signal temple
delicate perch
#

Don’t think splash range is thaaat big though but if mobs are walking near him it could be big enough

delicate perch
dense steeple
dense steeple
delicate perch
dense steeple
#

do you people not celebrate?

honest field
#

Mythic mugzee- is it worth it to dot up the immune adds to get extra resources? Or do the 4 globals not equal the power you gain?

dense steeple
#

nah ignore them for sure

mighty mica
dense steeple
#

how much value do you think a socket is worth? i can take this 6k upgrade or i can grab a socket i may never use

stone ledge
#

Depends on 1 of you are still using circlet, and 2 how many gem colors you have for focusing lens/blasphemite I believe

dense steeple
#

yeah thats what im stuck on really. theres so many variables

stone ledge
#

But I believe you can sim what a socket gives you on top gear in options

dense steeple
#

im currently full socket, but one of them is a hero track piece that i may or may not actually get a myth track for later.

#

i generally only single gem color as highest sim

#

but who knows what could change you know

stone ledge
#

Follow up question, are you apart of a guild that does mythic clears or just m+

dense steeple
#

im killing gallywix to||morrow||

stone ledge
#

Okay so if your guild plans on doing reclears you will get that slot filled eventually, the only benefit of taking the minor upgrade today is parsing better short term and having a few weeks to get a socket for the piece and. I bet taking that upgrade today the different of a socket is minor and can be fixed next vault

delicate perch
#

Sockets are kinda useless

stone ledge
#

Just like me fr

delicate perch
#

Helm should be myth + socket

dense steeple
#

same ong

delicate perch
#

Wrists are crafted

dense steeple
#

i dont have a myth helm

delicate perch
#

Have you considered obtaining one?

dense steeple
#

yeah i gave it a go

delicate perch
#

Oh ok

dense steeple
#

we got crit haste boots

placid olive
#

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3J3nLpJZjcAKj7bmfZsmAe and this is what it says at the end of the sim

Druidboy missing 'use_item' action for item "house_of_cards" (slot=trinket1)
Druidboy missing 'use_item' action for item "bestinslots" (slot=main_hand)
Disable this warning by adding 'use_item' actions into the action priority list for the actor(s), or add "use_item_verification=0" to your list of options passed to Simulationcraft. Never seen this before. What did I fuck up here? lol

meager storm
#

i think someone is playing with our apl

jolly delta
placid olive
#

gotcha

jolly delta
#

we don't talk about that

#

it should be fixed soon

stone ledge
#

Who done did break the thing that brings ma vault joy

jolly delta
#

there's clearly a more foundamental issue at play here

#

do we really need an APL or is it just holding us back?

#

(but yeah, I pushed an old branch on github and it wiped the whole thing, already restored it but the build takes a bit)

#

should be fixed now @placid olive

meager storm
vital hound
#

vinter broke the apl by making the frogs gay

jovial hare
#

Frogs is this a new gay shape-shifting form for us?

dense steeple
#

yes of course

desert imp
#

Hi guys, need some help. So Best-in-Slot and House of Cards, they are on same gcd? or can i macro them together with my incarn/pot?

barren carbon
#

are sims actually broken or nah?

grizzled shoal
desert imp
grizzled shoal
#

only one in opener yeah

desert imp
#

ok got it, thanks

grizzled shoal
barren carbon
ionic oak
#

Ready to up my parses. From grey to green. Lets goooooo

dense steeple
#

sometimes i have no will to live anymore and i dont know what i fight for but when im ready to give up i remember that at least im not arguing keybinds in the druid discord so im not at rock bottom yet

ionic oak
#

wheres the keybinds arguement

#

im bored

dense steeple
#

i just copy pasted a random thing from the doc

ionic oak
#

damn i thought my day was about to pop off

dense steeple
#

sorry

#

ig i picked the boring one

#

@digital berry tune in time to kill gobbo

digital berry
#

how do i make that roulette wheel sim higher then circes

meager storm
#

where is the roulette wheel

digital berry
#

whatever the fuck that ring is called

dense steeple
#

you dont

#

🙂

vital hound
violet stream
#

when can boomies replace cyrce's with crafted or mythic ?

dense steeple
#

thats the neat part

#

you cant

violet stream
#

damm 658 ring it is then 😦

digital berry
#

why is this telling me to use literally one gem in every spot surely its not right

violet stream
#

we use one gem, we dont mix thim for the crit

vital hound
#

The sims have been cooked

dense steeple
#

yeah swap to a dif class

ionic oak
#

idk if its wrong or not

signal temple
cloud lion
digital berry
dense steeple
#

@digital berry

#

wot is

alpine lake
#

Is crafted gear still siming higher than it should? It's saying 681 polearm is better than herioc BiS.

ionic oak
#

yeah heroic bis is trash

#

crafted better

heavy dove
#

is neural synapse enhancer any good for boomy in m+ setting?

cloud lion
#

I dont think so

digital berry
vital hound
stone ledge
#

just thought of something, does anyone have a weakaura that starts a simple timer when trees comes off cd. so i can track the grace period on optimization of the buff

shrewd pivot
#

How do ppl convoke on pull for bandit then at 1 50

lofty depot
#

and they hold 3rd trees

shrewd pivot
barren carbon
#

can someone explain how its possible for this to be a downgrade?

#

site has to be bricked

vital hound
#

@jolly delta did you fix apl

lofty depot
#

theres also a bug with dieing and having ur cds cding

#

theres a weakaura to remind u to fix it

shrewd pivot
#

How do you fix it, just swapping the talent then swapping back

vital hound
lofty depot
#

its also in the compendium

livid jay
#

Why nobody linking him the real version

lofty depot
#

SO TRUE

lyric junco
#

Any chance someone could help me with this vault? I'm fairly new to boomie and will mostly be doing M+ and a bit of raiding when I can squeeze it in as an alt with my guilds reclears. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nujy3HzFdFmMEr2vNd95iL Ths sim I ran is telling me to take a socket over the ring or bracers with leech, but I feel kinda troll not taking that ring? Is Cyrce's really THAT MUCH better than this and I should take a socket?

delicate perch
#

delve belt will replace that belt soonTM anyway

meager storm
#

for pure dmg yes cyrce's is better, but roulette is like .2% behind it

#

people get diff rings mostly for high keys ig cuz they need the stamina

delicate perch
#

ya I'd take the ring regardless for a what if

#

socket stinky and replaced

shrewd pivot
acoustic pawn
#

Lads how do I use Best In Slots together with HOC?

#

like whats the best use?

clear pulsar
#

one with incarn, one with second incarn

acoustic pawn
#

wait

#

that checks out

#

thanks

placid pike
#

so question is - are my gems wrong, or is it just the sim isn't super up to date on wowhead anymore? Differences are marginal, but higher than variance. Or is it not a 5 min patchwerk sim. Or is duskthread uptime different

ionic oak
#

its not as up to date. best to sim and do what bot says.

placid pike
#

I assumed so. Question at this point is do I take 2.5k sim dps or the extra stam from 3 ilvls on a cloak. It's not a hard question, though

#

thanks!

ionic oak
#

yeah up to you or bot. youre stacked

livid jay
ionic oak
#

lol papercups

#

rip the homie

livid jay
#

what happened to my boi

digital berry
silver spear
#

Free my boy Papercups

toxic tusk
#

#freepapercups

silver spear
#

He's done his time, release him

tropic otter
#

hey guys, is there a way to go into moonkin form when casting wrath? since it says i should be in bear form for the extra vers in a ST opener in m+

clear pulsar
#

fluid form, press wrath

tropic otter
#

oh thanks

livid jay
ionic oak
#

lol thats a set up question

#

its a trap

vital hound
ionic oak
#

exactly

livid jay
#

no i legit missed the event

lucid olive
placid pike
#

alright thanks aPES_Salute

livid jay
#

bro your gear is crazy wtf

#

did your raid funnel u all the trinkets or

#

oh wait, is it second dinar today?

lucid olive
#

ye

livid jay
#

sheesh gonna explode on these farm bosses

jade flume
#

Blizzard was nice enough to delay 2nd dinar by a week for me so i dont make rash decisions

#

Pretty nice on their part ngl

lucid olive
#

thats really thoughtful

livid jay
#

a friend said his quest just disappeared too

ionic oak
#

Tell them to fast forward the 3rd one. Thanks

placid pike
livid jay
#

damn

#

i have all the trinkets

#

but all of em on hc level xD

lucid olive
placid pike
lucid olive
#

my druid had full sockets after week 4

#

now i've taken 9000 gold from vault 2 weeks in a row

#

nvm its 3000 gold!

velvet aspen
#

I’m just here to say that that Erufuun guy yoinked all the gear just to complain that he needs more

livid jay
#

yea i can imagine

#

in my guild the warlocks got all the loot and still needed more somehow every week

velvet aspen
#

Flocks man

distant flare
#

Im kinda new to playing dps and simming etc, but on raidbots, i just choose dungeon slice as dps for m+ right? (im only playing mythic+ btw)

livid jay
#

no

#

go to FAQ here

#

and read how to sim m+

distant flare
#

thank you!

livid jay
#

(and read the whole guide while you are at it, very good guide)

fossil hemlock
#

I prefer to just watch a Gamz video and copy him action for action then complain when his guild does fights faster so it doesn't line up correctly for me

livid jay
#

i usually just copy paste gamz lorrgs into my mrt note

#

unlucky they died on sprocket prog

jade flume
#

I lorrgs rank 1 and then do the complete opposite because i already forgor when we pull

round field
lucid olive
#

yes

#

to the surprise of absolutely nobody

round field
#

suprised how im here

jade flume
#

Rip in peperonies

#

Same

round field
#

wait

#

i go open vault

#

and if its bad

#

i rip slur

#

FRENCH

#

I LOVE THE FRENCH

pallid bay
#

i open vault 4x

#

i receive 4x socket

jolly delta
jade flume
#

Man i hope i loots one of the dinar items i need

#

So i can actually buy a jug

round field
#

wait

#

are you telling me

#

i was supposed

#

to click this

#

every week

soft oxide
#

only if you wanted more cartel chips 4head

fossil hemlock
# round field

You also get the quest forced on you when you enter the raid

round field
#

????????

#

i literally

#

didnt get that

#

what

#

i have 0 chips

fossil hemlock
#

Did you not hand in the quest?

soft oxide
#

if u got all u can u should have 5 right now with the ability to get 6th this week

round field
#

ye i

#

was

fossil hemlock
round field
#

away for 2 weeks

#

and they refused to make any catchup

soft oxide
#

honestly it sucks, i cba to do it on my alts

#

i feel like they will cave in a few weeks and patch it

round field
#

great

south egret
#

Hey, kinda new to boomie. Been looking on some guides och rotation guides. On ST you wanna precast 2 wraths but is there a reason we want to enter lunar? Or just cause precasting is kinda free dmg?

round field
#

yes its just free dmg

#

and lunar doesnt matter cause u cd after

south egret
#

Yea okey, as i thought then. But wanted to be sure xD

soft oxide
#

every other eclipse procs beam, so if u wrath wrath, pop cd u get beam

round field
#

that is

fossil hemlock
#

If you have that specced, which you don't in raid

round field
#

definitely not a reason youre doing it

soft oxide
#

ive only been playing m+ tbh on this char

round field
#

one of those

pallid bay
#

dosnt firmament sim better than most talents on ST

soft oxide
#

i really should have tried mythic, but i hate guild hunting

fossil hemlock
pallid bay
#

w/e ig

round field
#

did for me last time i checked

jade flume
#

No shot oi is simming almost 4 mil already

#

I barely sim 2.9

round field
#

?

#

what

round field
#

nice ragebait

jade flume
#

What

round field
#

how is

#

3.04 mil almost 4 mil

fossil hemlock
#

It is if you round up to the nearest million

#

I guess

jade flume
#

I rounded it up

pallid bay
#

how are u not though

#

its like week 20

round field
#

im at 2.95

pallid bay
#

yeah but u're afk

round field
#

i was

#

away 2 weeks

pallid bay
#

see

jade flume
#

Idk man my guild keeps giving my bis in slot loot to some randoms

round field
#

and now i have no chip

#

gg

pallid bay
#

how many dinars do u have

round field
#

1

jade flume
#

That die on every boss and swap every week

#

I dont gets it

pallid bay
#

go buy some loot from fruitvendor

pallid bay
obsidian jetty
# placid pike If I sim differently from wowhead's bis list, I assume some gems or enchants are...

Since we're getting into stat DR all stats are pretty close in value so alot of different items sim well. There is like 5 or 6 setups that are all within margin of error. One with 5p tier, offpiece helmet/chest/legs/gloves, different boots, belts, cloaks etc. All within 1-4k dps difference. So "BiS lists" are pretty innacurate (as always,) but even moreso the further into stat DR we get.

pallid bay
#

i use mastery food mastery flask snapshot circlet

#

DR isnt real..

lucid olive
# pallid bay w/e ig

Wonder what causes this cause when I did this last week for me it was 0.4% worse

lucid olive
#

Crazy

round field
#

what

pallid bay
#

you heard him

delicate perch
round field
#

i didnt even quit

#

i just couldnt play...

#

ok last week i forgot to turn in the quest

jade flume
#

I forgor too

#

Heck blizzord and iom

royal zenith
#

when my ratkin nearly outsims @round field

#

💀 💀 💀

fossil owl
#

Hi, I have a myth Carved Blazikon Wax and Entropic Skardyn Core in my vault; they sim the same. Which one is better/easier to use in m+ (key level 12-16)

round field
royal zenith
#

promise?

round field
#

last week