balance

[digital berry]

Well, surges will do much more dmg inside your cds window

[lofty depot]

U see the 7 in 675, make it 685. Hope that helps

[digital berry]

You want to get out as many surges during your cds as possible without jeopardizing your movement and future eclipses, so you pool before cds , send surges without going to 0 asp and towards the end you pool a little for starlord stacking

[weary berry]

do we get a spark every week?

[gentle patio]

did you try here https://canary.discord.com/channels/172440238717665280/1014990256493314169

[lofty depot]

Half spark

[weary berry]

ah

yes

thanks

[lofty depot]

U can buy a half spark from vault if u don't get anything

[muted sleet]

For me, if I don't have to move any time soon I crank em out, but if I gotta use movement soon I’ll save a few surges to minimize downtime

[lucid olive]

i bought 3000 gold from vault

[lofty depot]

Brokie

[teal lotus]

Whats the reason you want to Fury of elune before incarn with elunes chosen?

[digital berry]

Fury is a bad button to press inside cds , it’s a wasted gcd

[teal lotus]

ahh okay, that makes sense ty

[lucid olive]

this makes it sound like you dont want to press it in CDs ever

[lucid olive]

FoE doesn't do a lot of damage by itself, but it's valuable as a damage activator through the Atmospheric Exposure debuff

The damage it does is also dynamic so using it before you press Incarn will make the damage scale with your new buff

And your damaging spells as EC are Starfire/Starsurge/Starfall and you want to maximize the amount of globals you spend inside your CDs on those

But if you are in CDs and your Fury of Elune becomes available again you should always press it because you would never hold it and risk losing a use

[teal lotus]

also didnt realize this!

[mental plover]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k1pwHYE7Ln5wKLRmeUoxU9

does the sim assumes i drop combat or nah?

cause its def odd that eye is the pick for ToP

[calm ibex]

Probably not

[lofty depot]

It doesn't

[flat sable]

anyone used best in slots in a macro? /use Best-in-Slots isn't working for me

[pallid bay]

./use 16

[flat sable]

thankyou

[pallid bay]

better version is

[gentle patio]

It does, and its a variable amount between pulls.

[pallid bay]

./use [combat] 16

Larctic..

[pearl yacht]

Hello eveyone

[gentle patio]

Hello there general kenobi

[lofty depot]

O, it used to not

Badass

[lofty depot]

Yea imagine simming mdt

[pallid bay]

imagine being confidently incorrect..

[lofty depot]

I'm channeling my inner kekkers

[gentle patio]

@pallid bay you're not an expert anymore?

[lofty depot]

Yea he dumb

[mossy path]

Which head enchant is the best DPS for boomie? From Visions

[lofty depot]

(left server cuz he hates the plebs dming him)

[lofty depot]

Read pin

[mossy path]

Sry, and thanks

[wintry garden]

guys sorry for bothering quick question, what makes incarn trigger a sunderer proc? i cant find it on the talents

[pallid bay]

no i got tired of it all

[lofty depot]

2 eclipses

[wintry garden]

nono but i mean i just start combat, i didnt do anything, and you just press incarn and it trigger a sunder proc

i dont know why

[lofty depot]

Talent says every other eclipse

Incarn gives both eclipse

[wintry garden]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i see

holy shit

[grave charm]

anone has a firmament WA they can send me?

[lofty depot]

Download a better pack with it in it

Oi's has it

[gentle patio]

is it really worth tracking?

[pallid bay]

honestly

probably not

[lofty depot]

It can be a gain if u enter eclipse outside of combat, but u don't have to think about it no

[pallid bay]

i track so little anyway that i havnt bothered disabling it

[grave charm]

kinda worth tho , you can enter clipse before a big pull in keys , then proc it and incarn for double

thats kinda huge

[wintry garden]

you only do that when entering combat right? you dont try to do it while still on combat right?

[grave charm]

it kinda of depends , lasts for a min

like if you have it , you carry it to the neck pack where you enter an eclipse as soon as you finish dotting mobs , then it procs

and you insta incarn

and it procs again

and you spam starfalls endelessly

at least thats the theory

[wintry garden]

mmm i see

[smoky horizon]

Does sundered firmament reset upon key start?

[grave charm]

think so

[brisk tangle]

any has talent build for solo visions?

[native egret]

@lofty depot

[digital berry]

I realize that it could have been misunderstood yeah my bad

[lofty depot]

What

[lofty depot]

Press n play bear, so easy

Keeper with taunt trees probably otherwise

[brisk tangle]

this char is bamking only

[tawdry trellis]

are people running Tempered Mastery or Alchemical Chaos

[digital berry]

alchemical chaos but you can sim it

[lofty depot]

Yea, not for delves or visions

[woven igloo]

Tips and tricks for Gally mythic prog? ^^

As boomie ofc ^^

[lofty depot]

Use wildcharge

[warm gulch]

off the platform

(While holding a bomb)

[scenic mist]

been there, done that

Wildcharge : V
MotW : shift-V

[maiden pasture]

this is asking for problems

[scarlet tapir]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/Fgfo1l3tWSd7WA1uzE/giphy.mp4?cid=73b8f7b166f14746d7dd45cd8fd16eee4eefcbec77d25a50&rid=giphy.mp4&ct=g

[maiden pasture]

u should rebind that asap

[scenic mist]

i did right after

MotW is now shift-R

[scarlet tapir]

i had to quickly mute the clip

almost died

[scenic mist]

dont lie you love it

[scarlet tapir]

fuck france

[scenic mist]

u wish

[real dome]

is it possible to macro incarn,trink,warr of elune and fury of elune, into one button?

[round field]

Sure

But you dont want that

Its bad

Very bad

[real dome]

why

[round field]

Foe isnt cast a global before ca

And macroing is woe is bad cause you probably waste dreamstate stacks

[real dome]

its just for opener

[round field]

Its still bad due to what i wrote

Regardless if its an opener or not

[delicate perch]

so you just add a keybind for fun to make it easier

[wicked grove]

lunar eclipse gives 15% damage increase, now my question is, let's suppose that I have cast starfall before having lunar eclipse, but the second after I get lunar eclipse, given that starfall is a damage-over-time skill, does it benefit from lunar eclipse if it was activated after, or if it had to be there before being cast to benefit from the 15% damage increase

[rough marten]

nemesis made this a joke holy shit

last week unironically harder 5 mask

[scenic mist]

damage updates dynamically

[wicked grove]

okay thank you

also another question anyone know if you can farm the fire moonkin skin from tindral more than once a week

[scenic mist]

you can farm it 1x/difficulty/druid/week

[wicked grove]

alr thanks

[exotic perch]

it might be from each difficulty

ok ye ash said so

[mighty isle]

Any quick tips for mythic one arm bandit?

[digital berry]

dont dot melee add, dot the other 2

hold third trees for convoke

[lofty depot]

use wildcharge

[iron chasm]

Annihilate bomba protect companions

[dense steeple]

@digital berry little behind today streams up

[digital berry]

bro im still working

and i havent had a bite of food

[formal crest]

skill diff

[dense steeple]

rip

[sonic juniper]

Hey yall, resto druid trying out boomy in some alt runs. Anything I'm doing fundamentally wrong here? Character = Eclipses https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PHpZM1hqVcNCAtW3?fight=last&type=damage-done

[dense steeple]

i feel like ive played with you before

[viral mirage]

From what i see :

• opening : dont use trees at the beginning, dot first then trees with burst
• wait your next trees before using CA for the 2nd time (around 35 seconds)
• dont use trees before entering a solar eclipse, use it when right after you enter it

[sonic juniper]

that' a good thing I hope lol

[sonic juniper]

Thanks!

[dense steeple]

yet to be forseen

i wish i could filter players ive ran with

[viral mirage]

Didnt check the whole fight but that's pretty much it

[lucid olive]

I looked at your One-Armed Bandit and I do not mean to come off rude, but you should probably go read a guide or something

You used CA on opener without Force of Nature first, did not empty AP bar before Convoke, used Force of Nature randomly after your CA ran out, then pressed CA again at 25 seconds without treants up and spent 6 globals inside the CA on Moonfire/Sunfire

not to mention the gaps between casts that are off GCD

seems like you are looking at your keyboard to locate the button you're supposed to press before you press it

You should focus on layering your cooldowns together, you always want to use Force of Nature first and then CA if available and Convoke if available

There are distinct priorities for when you should use these outlined in the rotation section of the Dreamgrove.gg guide linked in pins and channel description

[stone ledge]

We are finally free from One Armed Bandit fellas

[ionic oak]

W

[stone ledge]

blue parse and my uptime was shit in p2, didnt hit/dot adds if anyone has some more input on optimization https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HQ3nPvCf4hMqmGDc?fight=13&type=damage-done

[restive wadi]

question, i know we are not supposed to use gloves for tier, but these have a shit load of avoidance, would they be better for progress? (cause we're so squishy with no versa or avoidance)

or is chest-> catalyse the better option anyway?

[iron chasm]

You’re running infinite stars which loses a lot of value on non-single target. Would have been better on an add fight. That’s first glance anyway.

[iron chasm]

Sim it and take whatever gives you the most damage
The vers + avoidance isn’t going to change much, if your healers have hands you will be healed. Nothing in the raid is worth stacking vers or avoidance for. Can survive p much anything and everything natty/with bark/with bear in our levels of gear
Also what are you progressing? Keys? Mythic raid?

[restive wadi]

mythic

[iron chasm]

Yeah just sim it and take highest damage
Idk what your offpieces are or anything like that so I don’t have anything to go off

[stone ledge]

thats interesting, cause even on sims it was showing stars for patchwerk. maybe bc i was in oab talents which had extend dots

[dry compass]

The HP totals we're hitting now are such that you're really not that squishy

Things that are killing you aren't going to magically not kill you with a little vers

If your healers are letting you rot out, you have a throughput problem that will similarly not be solved by a little vers/avoid

[iron chasm]

Yeah stars gets value on patchwerk but void ritual gains value on multi target (still highest simming ST for me anyway)
Oab isn’t patchwerk

[ionic oak]

void ritual gang

[iron chasm]

Not to say you don’t sim patchwerk but you asked where you could gain damage and having void ritual would increase your overall on a fight like oab

[raven totem]

Is this on warcraft logs? How do you get it to look like this?👀

Would love to be able to check some top guys openers and stuff

[stone ledge]

main opener is 3/4s before pull be in bear form if you have fluid form talented go wrath, wrath, starfire, moonfire, sunfire, trees, alignment, spend all ap, convoke

from there its just ap minmaxing for the starlord talent/movement

always be casting

oh

and be max range so you dont pre pull

[raven totem]

Yeah that's what I've been doing and getting practically the dps my Sim is saying I should be at. But for the different bosses, I'm still not sure how to "attack" the adds

[raven totem]

Actually a question - do you moonfire? Because my Sim didn't, it just sent treants. Is that because the Sim is "lucky" that moonfire applies instantly?

[stone ledge]

its better to use the gcd to gurentee moonfire for your convoke

[raven totem]

Cool, figured the sim was cheesing it

[stone ledge]

the only time ive used trees to actually apply moonfire instead of manually applying is adds on oab and the mobs on stix

[raven totem]

So you just sunfire up the adds there?

[stone ledge]

yeah, like 1st set on oab i double dot bc trees are using in opener, but 2nd set i just sunfire and then drop trees

used-

try to make the habit of not canceling casts unless you have to im terrible at it

[raven totem]

Yeah I'm getting better at that, but only just recently switched from tank/feral to balance. So gotta learn the fights as ranged and learn the spec haha

Were progging oab now so appreciate more oab tips

[stone ledge]

but say you are at 3 stacks of starlord, and you have ap dont spend unless you are about to cap so you have ap to move with before you gotta redot

[raven totem]

Yeah I made a big starlord wa to track that

[stone ledge]

beg for a lock portal to drop circles instead of wild charging

i got merced a million times wild charging out

[raven totem]

Merced?

[stone ledge]

died

[raven totem]

Oh!

[stone ledge]

yeaa

uh if your coin person is good at comming to you can preposition for uptime

[signal trail]

hello, i am learnning how to use the balance spec and i wanna ask which WA do you recommend me for track the boomies thinks?

[raven totem]

I just use the afenar druid wa

[stone ledge]

^

[raven totem]

And made starlord and touch the cosmos a big bigger and on their own

[signal trail]

ty

[stone ledge]

but yeah opener, refreshing dots, have some ap for movement, and stay casting is what has given me the most improvement

[raven totem]

Awesome, ty for the tips. It seems like pooling ap for when you have to move is key

[stone ledge]

yeah its a balance like if you know you wont need to move for a bit you can throw the ap at the fight and keep max starlord stack uptime

[raven totem]

A balance 🙈🫣

[stone ledge]

XD

take what i say with a grain of salt and take an experts opinion over mine ofc

but just from my experience this season

[raven totem]

I appreciate it either way 👍

[stone ledge]

npnp

[raven totem]

How far are you in raids?

[stone ledge]

we just starting proging mugzee tn,

i was actually popping in here to ask if anyone had some tips for mythic mugzee haha

[iron chasm]

My recommendation is watch some POV’s of kills as boomkin. Use lorggs and copy personal notes for good reminders of cd timings through mdt. Make sure you take mass root for transition bombs

[stone ledge]

ooo mass root is huge

[raven totem]

Yeah super huge

[iron chasm]

Shamans earth grabs will be better but it’s a good safety net

[stone ledge]

in intermission can i bear+bark to jump through frontal or is it straight death cone

[iron chasm]

It always goes left right left p sure. Always does the same direction

So just do the same movement and reset at middle fire to get your bearings

Should never need to take damage from it

[delicate perch]

Ya just stand near fire puddle

Safe

[stone ledge]

so we just take the L on uptime and dot once we get out of ap huh

feels like theres 0 time to cast on that intermission or might be inexperience

[iron chasm]

You have so many instant casts that if you play it right you should always be high asp unless you’re building up starlord

[delicate perch]

you can defs get some casts off still

[stone ledge]

bet

let the greed begin!

[iron chasm]

Just stay ahead of it. Can easy cast wrath’s too

[stone ledge]

i already know imma greed like i do on rookery 1st boss, over compensate with wild charge and die a few times to stun XD

[iron chasm]

Greed is being the boomkin who full convokes shockers and not the boss @delicate perch

[delicate perch]

[iron chasm]

Pig behaviour

[stone ledge]

#staygreedy

definately a tank issue on why I have hynea bite marks on my boomkins behind

[worthy knot]

Hello guys, have you or can share good plater for bala?

[iron chasm]

There one on the dreamgrove website. Jundies on wago

[limber citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/moonkin-wow-world-of-warcraft-druid-dance-gif-10938800

[pure timber]

Are there and good balance youtube guides ?

( doesn't need to be really full accurate like top 100% log ) just want a basic grasp of a spec right now )

[raven totem]

Does anyone know if there's a way to have moonfire/sunfire have a sort of glow around it when it's not up on plater? In big packs I sometimes struggle to see if some aren't dotted up. Or what do you guys do?

[pure timber]

It should be easy to do but… what glow do you mean ?

Around nameplate ?

So kinda conditions like =
In combat + has no sunfire ?

[craggy sonnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgOQUvbz9Ms

[pure timber]

Thx. Will take a look

Huge

[raven totem]

Yeah just around the dot. But I guess around the nameplate could work aswell

[pure timber]

At the start you must track the dot that is not there and that is kinda irritating

let me check if I can do it in 5 min

[raven totem]

I haven't at all thought it through, if you think there's a better way I'm all ears tbh

[pure timber]

I am checking things out

if I can't do it in 10 min I am going to stop probably though

[raven totem]

No worries! Appreciate it man

[idle mantle]

Hey folks! Ive been playing healers for so long and jumped on Balance last week. I have seen guides and on m+ doing decent but raids..lower ilvl druids doing twice my dmg and casts on starsurges, they beating me to a pulp and idk what im doing wrong. Have decent trinkets, decent stats I guess. I have seen a lot of different weapon enchants, trinkets difference and embalishements. And Im confused. Have 2x focusing lens and Depths ench, have Myth Candle + HC kezan/signet but see a lot of people with mugze + cards trinkets. A lot of people doing versa embalishements. Does this things can make that difference? Or Im just bad at ST? What should I focus as a TOP prio on single target?

like this..im not sure what did went wrong..

(Mine is on right)

[craggy sonnet]

this really doesnt give much away as to what you are doing wrong

[idle mantle]

I can send a log from that fight if needed

[craggy sonnet]

and no .. embellishments are not super impactful

that would be much more helpful

have you read the dreamgrove guide?

[raven totem]

Are you using the right build? Kotg?

[idle mantle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YG1gLN2nDafxAtwm?fight=2&type=damage-done

yes i read dreamgrove guides/wowhead/some yt videos/ checked a lot of websites and I know im not god of balance druids but those differences scares me off

and yes i was on KoTG ST build

[craggy sonnet]

which one's you

[idle mantle]

Kaflowy

[craggy sonnet]

i mean

[idle mantle]

the one i was comparing myself was Bakasomething

[craggy sonnet]

you pressed a lot of starfall

is why that starsurge diff is there

[idle mantle]

I was pressing starfall when ads was up

is that bad?

[raven totem]

Starlord uptime kinda low? Or?

[pure timber]

I only made ghost aura but I can;t make it glow for some reason

probably I need some plater plugin or something to add glow to it

[craggy sonnet]

its not really worth it, no

[idle mantle]

im trying to keep eye on it but ofc im not optimizing it for 100%

[craggy sonnet]

the close add pretty much explodes insta

and you dont really want to starfall on 2t with the ST build

[raven totem]

I made a pretty big icon to track it, helps to know when to pull asp and when to send

[idle mantle]

I have tracker of buffs as starlord on my weakaura but its just a tracker

[craggy sonnet]

you are also regularly casting 3 starfires to get back into solar eclipse

and you are desyncing your cds

you never CA without Force of Nature (unless boss about to die whatever)

and you never Convoke without CA and Force of Nature

[idle mantle]

CA means incarnation right?

[craggy sonnet]

you also used signet into nothing

celestial alignment

but yea .. basically incarn

[idle mantle]

yeah my bad with name 😄

[craggy sonnet]

dont even wanna go deep into AP spending stuff

[idle mantle]

So i use CA with Force of nature (besides that eclipse without it) and convoke with CA and FoN only ?

[craggy sonnet]

not pressing your CDs correctly/together

is already gonna put you so far behind

[craggy sonnet]

yes

and im pretty sure every guide is gonna tell you

and you press trinket usually with the convoke CA

[idle mantle]

So nothing wrong with items or builds, just me pressing everything out of sync with other CD's

[craggy sonnet]

i didnt even look at items

but you can get builds from the dreamgrove guide

[idle mantle]

yeah i got mine for m+ and ST from there,

i think

[craggy sonnet]

there are slight differences in raid builds

technically you arent running the correct one

but its legit 1pt

does nothing

[idle mantle]

Ok, it was a good move to ask here about what Im doing wrong. Now I understand it better.

Damn resto players was always helpfull here and see dps too 😄

[craggy sonnet]

kezan is kinda hard to get value out of in heroic btw

if you happen to have other trinkets

but its really not your main issue

so i dont want to make this about gear

[idle mantle]

yeah now i get it. I was hoping Im doing a slight errors and maybe some other stuff make a difference but now i see i was totally wrong

Damn thanks guys for help! I hope I will get better with those tips!

[raven totem]

Cooldowns are so important. Basically think of it like you wanna fon+ca+convoke, then fon+ca, then fon without. Press fon on cool down unless Ca about to come up

[idle mantle]

Will do!

[digital berry]

Gm dg

[raven totem]

Sleeping late or American? Gm!

[lucid olive]

Merica

[rancid thunder]

i simmed myth track signet compared to hero track HoC and it says signet is better option dps wise but it's like a 0.1% difference, should i still pick signet over HoC or is HoC better even though sim says its not?

[lucid olive]

What talents did you sim with

[rancid thunder]

AoE

[lucid olive]

So the EC m+ build

[rancid thunder]

ye

[lucid olive]

I'd take the Signet

If you open the iteration in a quick sim and look at where the trinket and incarn is being used you'd see it's losing some value in the sim

[raven totem]

Do you just use signet with convoke then?

[lucid olive]

Well he doesn't have Convoke in that build innit

[rancid thunder]

well it loses it prob cause it does not completely align with incarn

but i know what you are saying

so it should be better in reality than in sim

[raven totem]

Oh mb, I was just wondering for myself because I also have a mythic signet

[lucid olive]

Incarn is a 100s recharge with 2 charges

You can always align it

[rancid thunder]

thanks man! ill take signet then 🙂

[lucid olive]

The APL for 2m trinket while using those specific talents is not optimized, it's reasonable to assume the 2m trinket is losing around 0.2% due to how the sim uses it

The sim uses incarn with trinket on pull, then incarn at 18 seconds ish when first incarn ends, then again at 1:43, Priory comes off CD at 2m but is held until over 3 minutes in for the next incarn charge to come back

Instead of the sim holding the 3rd cast of incarn for 18 seconds and sending it with Priory

[raven totem]

Is that ideal? Holding the trinket for 1 minute?

[lucid olive]

No

That's what I mean with it's not optimized for 2m trinkets

[raven totem]

Ah right, I got it now

[lucid olive]

And fixing it is incredibly annoying and can just break other shit

[raven totem]

As with all programming 🙃

[lucid olive]

It's also not a problem if you have force of nature in keeper or if you have Convoke

Because then the trinkets check for those cooldowns instead

But when it's only CA/Inc it's more tedious

[rancid thunder]

when is next catalyst charge? i'm no longer following the weeks :p

thanks for the explanation! sounds logical but didnt think about it that way

[digital berry]

Damn how on earth are you out of cats charges

[leaden birch]

well

lots of people use them not just for tier, but for xmog

it becomes free to catalyst items once the season is over though I think

[formal crest]

I have 0. Use for mog

[lucid olive]

transmog BIS

[digital berry]

Yeah I’m raid logging, looking good ain’t part of the equation

[round field]

Cant look good in new gear anyways

Shits horrible

[green jungle]

guys let’s say u are at maximum ap and eclipse is running out, is the move to get insta into new eclipse or spend ap out of eclipse to get ap when getting into a new eclipse via the casts?

[slim iris]

Ideally you spend the ap before cycling

But probably spend it outside

[eager raft]

The real answer is don’t be in that situation

But you should probably never surge outside of eclipse

If it’s m+ and you’re starfalling it’s probably fine to press outside of eclipse since after you enter eclipse the damage will update

[slim iris]

I starfall if it ever happens

[digital berry]

I always wondered, if you send a surge inside eclipse but it hits after it expired, it counts as outside eclipse for the dmg calculations right ?

[teal sphinx]

from what i remember, it is when the spell is casted

if you cast it, and mid air you drop, then it doesnt matter

[lofty depot]

No

[tender fern]

hello guys i started playing balance last week i have a question if anyone could answer

is jaster diamond ring better with cyrce circle or should i go with crafted ring with jestor

[eternal marten]

got the same question after watching krona recommending more haste with crafted ring + jastor instead of cyrce. When I sim, cyrce is ahead in st and aoe

[lofty depot]

1. He has probably closed to the best gear and u likely don't.
2. It doesn't sim better on St but can in a MDT sim
3. He might care more about stam than the tiny % DPS gain or loss

[tender fern]

so crafted better?

and yes he is all best in slot items

[lofty depot]

Read point 3 again

[tender fern]

alrighty

thanks for the reply mate 🙂

[pallid bay]

everything is calculated on cast success, the only exception is dream burst which procs when the wrath hits the target

which is really the same thing, just not very clear thats how it works

[digital berry]

Well they changed how dream burst works aswell

You used to be able to cast it with a wrath in the air and it would be procced

But yeah I understand thanks

[gray plank]

is it possible to make a macro so i cant dubble tap dps cd twice. been doing it by mistake a few times which is annoying >.<

[lucid olive]

Yeah I think @pallid bay has shared one in here before but it's not something people normally use

I'm sure you can find it if you go searching this chat or if he posts it

[pallid bay]

this

[gray plank]

yea thanks. mostly wanted to know if it was possible 😄

sweet thx

[digital berry]

The only weak aura I am considering is something on surge to make sure I don’t cancel convoke early with a surge

Surely there’s some not channeling condition

[lucid olive]

there is

[lucid olive]

#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling] Starsurge

[balmy patrol]

is starlord canceling still a thing?

[lucid olive]

a thing like possible to do and very situational yes

a thing like you should do it to gain damage no

[pallid bay]

you are better off improving your uptime than you are focusing on cancelling

[meager storm]

cancel this

[lucid olive]

cancel what

[meager storm]

[pallid bay]

are u cancelling..

[slim iris]

I still do it

So I don’t mentyb

[pallid bay]

mageplayer..

[slim iris]

No!

[meager storm]

maybe if ca wasnt so short i wouldnt do it

but everytime it desyncs

[slim iris]

[pallid bay]

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/omgbruh-corey-harris-omg-bruh-zoom-court-gif-2693074222613527227

what fight is that

[pallid bay]

banger

[slim iris]

Giga

[pallid bay]

yeah guys, cancelling is good guys..

[slim iris]

Cancelling is good

[pallid bay]

[kind frigate]

does raidbots account for jastor diamonds proc / secondary effect when simming?

[pallid bay]

cauldron

[lucid olive]

the effect of the ring? yes

[kind frigate]

yup

ty!

[strange elbow]

How much mastery is too much mastery?
I have 25k atm xD

[full gazelle]

Inc stat meme

[slender dragon]

hey lads mdt sims still using only rookery route?

[zenith raptor]

balance m+ i have crafted staff with ascendance, i know most people crafted belt but ill probably not do that if new belt comes out in 11.1.7. should i just craft cloak with duskthread lining instead then?

[pure matrix]

Hello guys I need some assistance . Wth am i doing wrong on my raid DPS https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/M13Wj7BypY8Fn2DL?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=5

I mean its really bad for my ilvl

[fossil shard]

there's a lot of stuff here that points towards you not really knowing the fundementals

probably re read the rotation priority list a bit

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

this one especially is a tough one to see

you didn't dump your asp after pressing ca, so you spent the entirety of your convoke overcapping

you had a lot of cancelled casts and non active time

try to be casting as much as possible

[pure matrix]

but how to cast wne you need to avoid

just take the dmg ?

[fossil shard]

also little stuff like using a flask and 2 pots

[delicate perch]

There is simply no way you need to cancel that many casts

[fossil shard]

If you're talking about holding dps for phasing issues then that's not what I'm talking about

but the cancelled casts number is far too high

[ivory geyser]

Hello folks. I can't seem to find the answer to this question in the resources. In M+ when a pack of 10+ mobs gets pulled. Do I spend 5 or 6 seconds trying to spam Moonfire onto all the mobs before going into the rotation? If not, where's the line?

[fossil shard]

yes

dot all

before CA

[delicate perch]

Trying

[ivory geyser]

Ok, thanks Nobody

same thing when adds are pulled as well then? dot them up first

[digital berry]

Do not enter cooldowns until all relevant mobs have both dots on them

[ivory geyser]

got it

[teal sphinx]

What if they are going for cancel cast parse???

You ever think of that you dingus

[delicate perch]

Then they’re doing worse at that, over 75% completed casts? Noob

[jovial hare]

is there a safe spot to taunt on Stix for the boomkin taunt strat

like a certain time

[digital berry]

Right before the start of the cast

Pretty much finish your cds go bear form and taunt on the next gcd

[jovial hare]

kk thx

[lofty depot]

press wildcharge

[slender dragon]

guys i'm probably 2 IQ but how i can get warcraftlog ingame?

[digital berry]

wdym

[slender dragon]

idk ive seen a streamer with warcraftlogs directly ingame and you can directly watch people in your lfg queue

[digital berry]

probably some addon or wa idk

[slender dragon]

yeah thats why i ask there

i've the warcraft logs app but that have nothing to do ingame

[meager storm]

i think that may be wowlogs companion

[delicate perch]

Ya defs the pc app

[soft oxide]

just did underpin ?? that was so unfun , even as balance with some chip starfall dmg to adds

[arctic latch]

hey, how can i get people to jump on me in travel form?

[lucid olive]

travel form and mount form are separate spells

mount form lets people sit on you travel form doesnt

[earnest sage]

can anyone help me with the waiste craft real quick

[meager storm]

wdym

[earnest sage]

what estab to I pick on my crafting waste

[meager storm]

probably hast/mastery or crit/mastery, gotta sim it to make sure

[earnest sage]

and the other stuff

[meager storm]

sim it

cant really tell

[earnest sage]

I mean embelishment

[meager storm]

do u have a crafted weapon

[earnest sage]

yes

[meager storm]

then u need a 2nd piece with ascension

so ig the waist

[earnest sage]

yes

[meager storm]

writhing armor banding on waist

[earnest sage]

bet

ty

[nova prawn]

how do you deal with the sheer amount of astral power we generate in aoe? feels like even spamming starfall isnt enough

[full gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/starfall-gif-2909646910056891152

[lucid olive]

and swap it out in a few weeks with the delve belt

[meager storm]

well we never crafted waist to begin with but maybe they got a low ilvl piece there or something idk

[exotic perch]

starfall

[lucid olive]

need a 3rd spender

give me spender that costs 80 AP, has a cast time and gives me a buff

[meager storm]

or like a touch of magi for our m+ ramp

big ass hit after we are done putting dots

[lucid olive]

think something like Engulf would fit that better

remove waning twilight for it

button that does more dam the more dots you have on target

[meager storm]

moons could work like that

like an extra mini moon per damage over time on the target or some sht

like counting smolder and sht

[dry compass]

Give back AP-draining FoE

DK has breath, they just gave paladin blessed hammer

They clearly don't mind the mechanic

Give it back 🥲

[digital berry]

Give us ANYTHING

[drifting nova]

granted, flap now flaps 1% faster

[ancient violet]

Does moonfire/Sunfire and Starfall snapshot with eclipse? As in, is a Sunfire casted during solar eclipse stronger for the whole duration of the dot?

[loud kettle]

snapshotting is a feral thing

so no

[digital berry]

God imagine if we had to reapply dots to snapshot them with the current eclipse duration

Id reroll

[hybrid garden]

Any guidance on how/when to use on uses when running both Best in Slots and House of Cards?

[woven imp]

comming into druid for a bit could anyone explain me this please ?

do i just starfire all the time now ?

[lofty depot]

with your cds

i know, wild

[hybrid garden]

like which first

using one puts the other on cd

[lofty depot]

hoc usually first

[lofty depot]

yea so u wait to use the other with incarn

[hybrid garden]

ty

[lofty depot]

wrath to get into lunar, but yes (while using lunar calling)

[woven imp]

❤️

[iron chasm]

Thank you kekkers

[royal zenith]

said noone ever

[drifting nova]

no insult bootypop smh

learn from

[iron chasm]

Insult you? I would never

You’re dreamgroves lil bro and must be protected

[round field]

Bootypop

More like bootypoop

[hollow mist]

sick burn iqni

[round field]

Ty lake

[gentle patio]

Do we need single target buffs?

[round field]

No

[craggy sonnet]

💀

[maiden pasture]

wouid be nice tho

[spring maple]

yoyo 🙂 what would you buy with Cartel Chips having this? Currently progressing MugZee so first real possibilities are from 1ab right now, but I am asking overall (dont have hc jastor, MugZee and 1ab trinkets)

[maiden pasture]

you can sim, its gonna show BIS and HOC realistically

[spring maple]

BIS sims as a downgrade and about HOC I am thinking, if it is worth while having Myth Priory trinket.. I know its much better, but we have only 3 chips 🤷‍♂️

[warm edge]

Did you change your embellish when simming bis

[spring maple]

nah, i did not.. thanks

[spring maple]

Is there a way how to sim it somehow else then Droptimizer? I dont know where to change it there

[unique mirage]

Sorry if this get asked a lot but i assume in AOE we dont do this? We just predot stuff and then go directly into fury inca since we already have enough AP to start blasting?

[warm edge]

You can just add the items in top gear, set an ilvl, then add 2x duskthread/dawnthread crafted items, or id go focusing lens for raiding

[spring maple]

got it.. thanks 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

Yea.
You can enter lunar by precasting wraths out of combat while tank is pulling as well to cycle sundered firmament but the thing you linked seems just like a ST opener

[unique mirage]

Thanks. I mean in ST you can also go directly into elune > inca I guess.

If you have AP from before

I assume this opener is strictly when going in in a raid boss fight with 0 ap so you build some AP first before going into eclipse

[craggy sonnet]

Somewhat, but also just because these precasts are free

[unique mirage]

Hm. I see thanks

[lucid olive]

Yeah that's the intent behind them

[unique mirage]

cool cool, ty 🙂

[iron chasm]

this was just hurtful

[glossy slate]

Whats the best way to utilize the best in slots weapon if you have house of cards as well, on a raid boss

[plain fjord]

looking to recraft my crafted pieces, I see a lot of people rocking the verse embellishment but all the guides say use the focus lens's any pinned or guides for that

[plain fjord]

I use the bis outside the HOC rotation on downtime whats what works for me

[round field]

Use 2nd incarn

And then trees after second convome

[fervent merlin]

In keys verse has value

All embellishments are very smoll %

[ancient violet]

That's because lens is better dps, but vers also adds survivability which is direly needed for Boomy in high keys

[lucid olive]

Focusing Lens is a ST proc and doesn't scale with AoE, the other ones scale with AoE

and all embellishments perform closely to each other anyway so people rather take the one that scales in AoE

Guides say Focusing Lens because that's the embellishment used in the "these are the best items" sim before the tier started, and those lists should not be taken seriously as a goal for how to gear your character

[toxic scarab]

So this bug with stampeding roar taunting bosses

does this happen to everyone?

[lucid olive]

Sounds like you have growl bound on your bear form bar

[toxic scarab]

AAAAAAAAAAAND yep

its the keybind on the same button as stampeding roar

but in bearform

[lucid olive]

[lyric kettle]

xd

[toxic scarab]

that has pained me

for

so many keys

LOL

[pallid bay]

[ebon gate]

what is a good crafted neck piece?
and what should the makeup be?
looking at the fractured gem stone locket

[pallid bay]

thats a healer neck

i dont think anyone is using it either

[lucid olive]

yeah i had to look it up

[lucid olive]

amulet of earthen craftsmanship with haste/mast missives

and whatever gems you feel like

[dire pagoda]

what is the tldr for not casting 2x wrath before CA in m+?

[vague crescent]

I think because you want to have the 2 dream states when you go into CA

[dire pagoda]

yeah i think so aswell but do you do it every time? or only on aoe?

[vague crescent]

I don’t do it for bosses tbh, but I always make sure that all adds have both dots then Elune then CA

But don’t know if I should also for bosses

[dire pagoda]

the only thing you gain from entering eclips before CA is sundered firmament and some ap right?

[lucid olive]

You can enter Eclipse and keep your Dreamstate stacks if you enter Eclipse before you enter combat

But if you don't do that then it's more worth to just dot and send CDs and keep Dreamstate stacks

[dire pagoda]

even on ST?

[lucid olive]

especially in ST

[dire pagoda]

ty sir

[stark crest]

Hello, what should I buy first for the Puzzling Cartel Chip? I'm new as a Balance Druid

[noble spindle]

[stark crest]

oh sorry....thank you

[ocean palm]

Is the jastor ring (HC 671) and a crafted 681 ring dmg loss in dungeons? compared to raid. (tried to sim).

[lucid olive]

if you tried to sim you have your answer already

whether you simmed correctly or not is impossible to tell without more information

[ocean palm]

aight ty

[lucid olive]

as much as it pains me to answer a liverpool fans question

[ocean palm]

BRO lol ❤️

[calm leaf]

When im dotting packs before incarn do i send a starfall if im about to overcap before fury of elune and incarn?

[jovial hare]

It's dynamic when you activate incarn

[digital berry]

Try not to be in that situation in the first place, but you can send a fall to not overcap yeah

[lucid olive]

mmm can you

[charred mango]

easy

[scarlet tapir]

least obvious bought boost...

[charred mango]

no 😠

[lucid olive]

fr.. Liquid player in that raid..

clearly paid

[charred mango]

oh that's true

boosted fr

[scarlet tapir]

almost lost to feral

maybe u deserve the loot actually

[patent mica]

question for all the fellow chickens, M+ with asass rogue, arcane mage, boomie, for aoe who gets PI typically?

[cloud citrus]

either balance of assas rogue

or the one who does the most damage

[patent mica]

thats kinda where we are at, i think should be balance, but they are arguing ass rogue, idk

[lucid olive]

why does it have to be the same one

the first one to use cooldowns when PI is up

moonkin is not a binary 2m spec, neither is arcane

idk what timings assa have

[teal minnow]

2mins and 1min cds. So literally who ever presses first wins

[lucid olive]

yeah there you go

[plush prairie]

got some good news, my damage is slightly improving I am not longer bottom

[lavish hawk]

👍

[twin flax]

How big is the DPS difference between elunes and keeper ?

[meager storm]

barca lost to this

[plush prairie]

Worth socketing crafted 681?

[scarlet tapir]

psg are just too good man

playing as prime barça

my goat vitinha best player in the world

[delicate perch]

What else are you socketing (yes)

[iron geyser]

so i do mythic+ more then raiding shouild i get slots for main hand with my puzlle pieces or stick to craft weapoin and get ring?

[plush prairie]

Nothing, was thinking of saving for myth item but alr done it

[delicate perch]

Don’t worry, you’ll have plenty more sockets in the future

With belt coming up you’re kinda limited to crafted slots so wrists is pretty good (hoping that’s the one you did )

[plush prairie]

Yeah it is lmao

I just crafted my waist

The new delve waist is that even gonna be good in m+? thought it was just a delve thing

[delicate perch]

It will be ya, you just need to do delves to boost it

[plush prairie]

Ah

[iron chasm]

Yes! Finally a chance to do some delves every week!

[delicate perch]

You haven’t been doing them already???

[acoustic rampart]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nVprynbfTT7RXAWuxrHokX
can someone tell my why my best-in-slots is simming such a small upgrade compared to the trinkets? is it because embellishment changes haven't yet been factored in? and will it still be considered a worthwhile pick next week or no?

[lucid olive]

good chance it's your embellishments yes

[acoustic rampart]

can it pretty reliably be said that i will get a greater dmg increase if i take b-i-s and change my embellishments compared to a higher trinket?

[lucid olive]

you can add the item in top gear and sim with recrafts to get a more accurate number of its value

and then compare that to the ones for the trinkets in your droptimizer

[acoustic rampart]

gotcha, ty

[lucid olive]

alternatively you can just go to top gear, take embellishment off your weapon, add 2x duskthread pieces

then take the highest simming iteration of that combination from the result and run it as quick sim

then ctrl+c the addon data before running the quick sim and put that in droptimizer

[hollow sail]

Does anyone know the weakaura that May is using on the right from his incarn, that shows when to cast wrath in lunar eclipse?
https://www.twitch.tv/maystine/clip/PeacefulConsiderateHabaneroTheTarFu-81YsABqPpW6spVD0?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

[lucid olive]

thats not what it shows

https://wago.io/rrtAyRQjF

it's this

linked in the Compendium

it shows the amount of GCDs left until you can cast Starfire to cycle into Solar

[wind mason]

is there an easier way to sim craft gear stat?

[lucid olive]

depends what you consider the hard way

[wind mason]

like duplicate it 12 times and set it on different stat?

[maiden pasture]

the laziest way is probably sim a single droptimiser and then put whichever one sims highest in top gear with a bunch of recrafts

another way is sim a bunch of droptimisers all with diff stats

[maiden pasture]

i think i've asked this before but

if not enough time for a starfire but also wrath is too quick and the cast will finish before lunar ends, what press?

[kind wind]

Question. What is the proper usage if you have both best in slots and house of cards?

[lofty depot]

generally hoc first

[exotic perch]

Hoc > bis

[sleek echo]

am I just undergeared for +7s? Been doing them with friends at 645 Ilvl and I'm just dying 2-3 times per dungeon to unavoidable AoE attacks like the DoT from the final boss in Cinderbrew or half the mobs in Priory like Lightspawn/Paladins. I was able to do these same keys on a Paladin at the same ilvl, but I feel so squishy. Even if I don't get hit by mechanics, I'm just dying through defensives/self-heals.

[calm cargo]

It's impossible to say wtihout getting some more information.
But i would recommend doing a screen recording and watching your gameplay back. Often there is something more you could have done. Or you might also spot exactly what killed you and that you had X thing up as it happened

[loud kettle]

645 is plenty high enough ilvl idk

Druid just dies if you dont defensive

[plush prairie]

plate vs leather, do you have the logs for this too

[delicate perch]

I would consider asking the healer to heal

[loud kettle]

Yea dying on conder last boss is weird

[sleek echo]

I can check if someone was logging it, but I haven't been logging my Mythics. I didn't really realize you could honestly. Do I have to manually set it to record like raid?

[loud kettle]

unless ur taking waves ?

[delicate perch]

tanking waves or 0 barrels being done and the boss just nukes all of them

[loud kettle]

Lightspawn does own but you can also meld if ur night elf

[sleek echo]

I am. I didn't actually know I could do that. Tyvm! Does that work on all targeted channel abilities?

[loud kettle]

most

not all

you have to wait for the channel to start

[delicate perch]

ya meld is a try and see type ability in +

[loud kettle]

you can also meld shadowblast, the circle on last boss dfc

and it wont recast

[quiet shuttle]

do u have to meld it last second or can do whenver?

[quiet drift]

Aslong as you just break the channel on you it disappears

Same idea as with any other Meld cheese

[golden belfry]

Before cast finishes its starting cast animation

Same with missile on last boss in motherlode, azerite catalyst on rixxa, charged shot aoe from war machines

Can do on the savage maul from dailcry in priory as well

[full gazelle]

The only targeted spell I haven’t been able to meld is the charge from the first boss in mech

[golden belfry]

Can just bear form that and wild charge back to it

[full gazelle]

Ye that’s what I do but it’s weird meld doesn’t work must be diff

[golden belfry]

Can moonkin wild charge kujo's jump as well

Can meld the big laser on last phase of last boss in mechagon too

[shadow tapir]

Should I Starsurge or Starfall on first Boss Priory?

[golden belfry]

Starfall

[full gazelle]

Ethical lol

[shadow tapir]

Ty

[full gazelle]

I’ve tried both tbh don’t notice a difference other than sf refreshing the dots

[golden belfry]

Share health

[full gazelle]

Yeah sf the correct answer

[sinful bone]

hey guys, trying to understand balance as a whole. if i take keepers of the grove i basically never wanna enter the solar eclipse right? if im in aoe, i only played eulunes chosen before where i cant swap forms so im wondering. i wanna try it for m+

[round field]

If you take keeper you play solar st lunar aoe

While ec is perma lunar

[merry mango]

Is there a plater profile that you guys like for boomy?

[violet talon]

What all heals through Natures Vigil?

Why does it heal so much in aoe

[quiet drift]

Dots

[round field]

Starfall

[little rover]

Which spells actually contribute to Nature's Vigil healing ?

[true viper]

All

[iron chasm]

You just meld as it hits you

[iron chasm]

Jundies is good

[scarlet tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/new-month-first-day-of-the-month-gif-11423865558998437844

[south egret]

In perma lunar, do you cast starfire in ST then or do you wrath? 🤔 From what i understand about boomie is that in solar you wrath and in lunar you starfire while spending astral power on starsurge/fall?

Also wondering when you have like 100 astralpower in aoe, you do press starfall more then once until you dont have any power left and then starfire and build up to refresh starfall?

In at the level of boomy experience that i just hit max level and have like 620 ilvl 😅 but i wanna gear up and try pushing keys before end of season, have 2 other chars at 3,2k rio atleast

[round field]

You always starfire in ec

Only wrath to enter lunar

As for starfall you just make sure not to overcap ap

Can dump all ap or just hover higher doesnt rly matter as long as you dont waste any

[sinful bone]

are there macros to shapeshift instanlty after incap roar? back into boomy?

[south egret]

Theres a talent that makes you insta go back to boomie form when you press wrath or starfire atleast

[south egret]

Okey thanks! 🙂

[south egret]

Do you wanna have Vigil macroed with incarn? or pop it solo when it's big dmg output?

[lucid olive]

Macro it

[south egret]

cool!

[burnt shuttle]

Hey yall. I have been playing for a long time but always casually. I would now like to push some Keys and possibly Mythic Raid some. I was just wondering the best ways to improve? I am usually only pulling 1Mish for single target encounters and maybe 2M on packs. This is my 1st time maining Boomy as I have always been a Hunter. Thank you all for any advice

[north jacinth]

Hello, i'm new to druid. Do you line up your trinket with cds after the opener? I'm using the priory trinket.

[scenic mist]

press it with incarn

[craggy sonnet]

read the pinned guide

watch some people play and try to recognize the guide stuff

and then implement it

record your stuff

try to recognize your mistakes and focus on them

[burnt shuttle]

Thank you looking at it now

BTW is there a trick to spreading Moonfire?

[pallid bay]

no trick, just tracking it in a good way so you know what nameplate to click

[golden belfry]

#showtooltip
/use [@mouseover,exists,harm,nodead] Moonfire [] Moonfire

Moonfire targets that don't already have it on them

[mystic gull]

i tried searching for it but probably didnt search for the right thing. for raidbots what sim am I running? tried to decide between mug or HOC. thank you

[lofty depot]

search compendium

[mystic gull]

thank you

[lofty depot]

are u asking a question or

[severe hollow]

no idea what that macro is supposed to do, that one does not work

[digital berry]

No way you out here trying to educate the masses and that’s how they respond

[dense steeple]

YUUP

[celest narwhal]

Don’t be shy. Share his name

[uncut roost]

I want a sub

[severe hollow]

it is pridemonth after all

[golden belfry]

Works fine

[golden belfry]

"BTW is there a trick to spreading Moonfire?"

[severe hollow]

okay I checked it actually does work wtf macro syntax is a lot more forgiving then I thought

that macro is an absolute mess and still accepted

[pale hollow]

Good nameplates

[golden belfry]

Wasn't asking a question

[lucid olive]

why not

[celest narwhal]

Why r they playing resto Druid in mdi

More dmg output?

[lucid olive]

sir this is balance chat

[golden belfry]

Because it's dfc

[celest narwhal]

Well that don’t tell me much

[golden belfry]

Go do candle king on a high key and you'll get the picture

[celest narwhal]

More healing!

[drifting nova]

toxic wtf

[serene elk]

hello guys
I've some question !
I play Boomie since 3 months, I've time my 1st 16 today, but my dps was so low https://fr.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HJRFB6pA3VWMYNqa?fight=16&type=damage-done ( 4m19 on details )
Anyone have tips for me? idk how pump more 😦
Thx for ur help

[teal sphinx]

@lofty depot do your job

[lucid olive]

wrong order of buttons here

[golden belfry]

Fury of elune before incarn

Don't waste dreamstate stacks

etc

[lucid olive]

should be Spread Moonfire while gathering -> Sunfire when gathered -> Finish spreading Moonfire if any missing -> FoE -> Incarn+Starfall -> Starfire -> Starfire -> WoE

dont enter Eclipse before Incarn unless you are casting it from out of combat without Dreamstate

can improve uptime

[golden belfry]

Also fighting bubbles in a 16 kinda bait, go yell at your tank

[serene elk]

I see

WoE before incarn cuz WoE debuff?

[golden belfry]

Fury of elune

[serene elk]

yes sry

that for foe debuff right?

[dense steeple]

no

[lofty depot]

no, its for the use of a gcd

the foe gcd is worse

[serene elk]

ok I see, I try it on npc, I dealt more damage right

[pearl yacht]

Hey everyone! I need some help with my Balance Druid.
I feel like I'm doing low damage compared to others and I'm not sure if the problem is my build, my rotation, or something else.

[lofty depot]

are u following compendium for the builds and prio list?

[pearl yacht]

yes i guess

[lofty depot]

post a log

[pearl yacht]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/draenor/moonpiee

[serene elk]

is my only pb or I've any worth thing?

[lofty depot]

is that english or

[serene elk]

sry I'vbe bad english ahah

[lofty depot]

r u asking about raid?

[pearl yacht]

no

pve

mythic +

[lofty depot]

?

[serene elk]

my burst rotation, is the only one thing I did bad or no?

[lofty depot]

is raid not pve

[golden belfry]

raid needs help too

[lofty depot]

am i going crazy?

[lofty depot]

well i dindt look at it so idk

[serene elk]

oh okay mate

[golden belfry]

use your two dreamstate stacks before using warrior of elune

and stop cancelling 80 casts

[lofty depot]

all ur m+ logs are from apr

uve ran 2 keys in may and they arent logged

sooooooo, go log a key

[pearl yacht]

yah i stop playing for awhile i got tilted XD

[lofty depot]

what r u doing

[pearl yacht]

that is a good question

[lofty depot]

hes pulling the first pack then going to the far pack and ur running around

go into incarn and do damage

also, u pressed wild charge not 1 time i nthe key

so watching big momma should be fun

ur already in combat so u dont need to enter eclipse here

shouldve dotted prior to incarning

the rule is to always use foe on cd, but theres the 1% of the time where u dont

and this is that 1%

u should have ur incarns up way faster

first was 0:27 so 3rd should be up well before when u used it

[lofty depot]

thats crazy first sonic boom

[serene elk]

isn't on me, and I've lag for this
but right

[lofty depot]

this is crazy

yea idc that its not on u

press wildcharge

why r u pressing any of that before incarn

also u dont need to press cat form then dash

see the part where it says "shift into Cat Form"

he grabbed the 2, if ur not gonna enter eclipse prior to combat u dont need to there

dot them and run across then enter incarn

ur actively getting 6 starfires in ur incarns

its very little cuz of ur not using dreamstates properly

foe well before incarn

[fervent merlin]

This should all be pinned xd

All this is actually downfall of so many people who come in here with m+ questions

[lofty depot]

read the prio list

quite clearly says foe the global before

same thing here

just not using foe with incarn

[scenic mist]

yeah but is it "3..2..1" and THEN we go or "3..2..1" and we go at 1 ?

[lofty depot]

u shouldve held incarn for 6t seconds

[lofty depot]

every global is running down the list

if everything is dotted and ur not using cds its then only half the list

but yes, u are thinking about this every time ur going to use an ability

thats why theyre prio lists and not rotations

[dapper prism]

Hiii, got a question, whenever Ive got starfall ON and I have extra astral power, on a multi target scenario, should I recast starfall or starsurge

[scenic mist]

starfall, they stack to 10

[golden belfry]

Starfall

[dapper prism]

ok ok

[lofty depot]

starfall isnt an "on" spell

[lofty depot]

they stack past 10

[scenic mist]

do they now ?
anyways you never reach that state, due to gcd only

[lofty depot]

u can reach taht state

[scenic mist]

pretty sure you cant have 10 starfalls rolling at once

[dapper prism]

so I should cast starfall tilli get to 10 stacks

[scenic mist]

since it meant you cast 9 starfall in 8sec-1gcd

[lofty depot]

gcd can be lower than that

[scenic mist]

dont think about teh stacks

[lofty depot]

ur also not thinking about side the box

[scenic mist]

just starfall whenever you wanna aoe

[lofty depot]

is fine

[dapper prism]

ok ok

ty

but 4 stacks starfalls is much better than 2 stacks right? does it do more dmg or does it hit more mobs?

[lofty depot]

each stack is its own

they each do their own damage

[scenic mist]

each starfall acts individualy

[dapper prism]

Ahhhhhhh

Got it

[lofty depot]

again "multiple uses of this ability may overlap"

[scenic mist]

that's why i said forget about the stacks

[dapper prism]

thats what i wasnt understanding

got it

ty ty

[scenic mist]

it's like ironfur

if you ever played bear

[dry sonnet]

you guys just use Best-in-slot with your CA macro ?

[fossil shard]

no

[lofty depot]

some of us have different buttons

[fossil shard]

on use with ca, best in slot with next CA/trees and then the trees after your third CA

[lofty depot]

likely talking about m+

fotms and stuff

[dry sonnet]

Really

[fossil shard]

what i said can easilyt be applied to m+

[lofty depot]

yes

they cant think about outside the box

theyre using foe seconds before/after incarn

[fossil shard]

side the box very important

i saw that

always a banger

[lofty depot]

get mad about htat

[fossil shard]

no

its the lords day

i must refrain

[lofty depot]

i will not

[shut trench]

fello boomies, is dotting the mobs (the funnel) on bosses in m+ considered padding? should i be full st boss dmg , what's the ideal situation

[lofty depot]

gives u asp

more asp = more surges

[rapid stream]

how can i prevent my convoke dmg go into immun adds on mugzee?

[lofty depot]

stand farther away from them

[shut trench]

so it's worth to dot and also redot, but never starfall ye

[rapid stream]

but at 2nd cds they are like in the boss

or one of them

[lofty depot]

well i didnt say it wasnt worth to starfall

that shocker should likely be dead right when u are pressing ur cds

idk what u mean

and or should be not immune

when ur pressing cds

finger gun comes out at like 150

[neon whale]

if your incarn comes up somewhere inside your eclipse do you just send it or wait till the eclipse is over

[lofty depot]

depends on a few

[pallid bay]

hold 3rd trees

[lofty depot]

but generally speaking u would wait for it to end

[pallid bay]

so you can press at 1:50 or w/e

[lofty depot]

oh i assumed he meant his 2nd convoke

[neon whale]

for dream state as well too right

[lofty depot]

if ur in an aoe pack it depends mroe on them living

but yes

[pallid bay]

huh

[neon whale]

ah yeah that makes sense

[rapid stream]

it was about the 2nd convoke

[neon whale]

so more of how many mobs, what health they are, and tracking other dps cds

[rapid stream]

but y will hold 3rd trees

makes sense

[lofty depot]

did u not look at lorrgs before doing prog?

oh, its a resto druid

[lofty depot]

yea i said something and thought u meant something else

i cba

[neon whale]

and is it worth entering eclipse before incarn for sundered firmnanent

[lofty depot]

meh

if ur already in combat ur wasting dreamstate stacks

[neon whale]

aight

thanks for help

[eager flower]

Guys, can we still buy bis as balance? With chips I mean, I can only find the agility one

[mint junco]

you buy agility bis and use it out of combat

it transforms to int version

[lofty depot]

read the green text

[urban karma]

Q) Why all the MDI boomer use Glyph of Stars?

[livid jay]

its cool

[urban karma]

what?

[pallid bay]

big model = bad

[urban karma]

seriously?

[pallid bay]

nah it dosnt really matter

makes it slightly easier to tell if you're edging a mechanic but

[severe hollow]

they are bad at the game

[urban karma]

That’s a somewhat convincing point, but is it really a core reason that makes it essential for everyone to use?

[pallid bay]

no i just think they prefer it

[loud kettle]

Yea its literally they prefer glyph over being a moonkin

no other reason

Its not a power gain

Its just a glyph

[pallid bay]

its a power gain not looking dumb af

[loud kettle]

Look better play better

[pallid bay]

[urban karma]

If it's really just that, then I figured there must be some reason

[mighty mica]

nope

it's not essential

[loud kettle]

What reason were you expecting

[urban karma]

I thought boomers had disadvantage that made it harder for them to avoid things

[loud kettle]

no same hitbox

[urban karma]

TY

[lucid olive]

there is a reason