#balance
maiden pasture
lucid olive
idk
formal crest
I have an idea
eager raft
I know it but I’m gatekeeping it
lucid olive
I said I do some NA alt raids with Phased and Tradu says "Bilal lets you in?"
so I imagine thats your govvy
doxxed
eager raft
Doxxing is insane
brave gulch
thats crazy
formal crest
Damn. Now I know where phased lives
brave gulch
formal crest
Thanks Gamz
lucid olive
knows IP address now
lament sigil
We brigading?
eager raft
Just DMd phased his bank account #
formal crest
I’ll pick you all up before we reach Bilals house
lofty depot
The name bilal brings me back to Shahzam, fns, and Braxton clip
brave gulch
yes I've been linked that a lot
lucid olive
We brigading?
This is my safe space. This is my safe space. This is my safe space. This is my safe space. This is my safe space.
lofty depot
yes I've been linked that a lot
carmine vigil
causese tww dungeon pack
leaden birch
The name bilal brings me back to Shahzam, fns, and Braxton clip
sounds like valorant speak
leaden birch
but the real ones know brax from ibp 
lofty depot
My goat
eager raft
but the real ones know brax from ibp <:wicked:937093876857045012>
That the match fixing incident
?
leaden birch
yeah
lofty depot
Ye
eager raft
brax would honestly be the goat
leaden birch
fuck im old
eager raft
If not for that
leaden birch
fr
lofty depot
He was just a kid :(, steel and dazed took advantage of him 😭
lofty depot
Lol, they just won the major
eager raft
The na t2 valorant scene is in the midst of a massive match fixing scandal
lofty depot
Tarik was so hype when they won
plush prairie
My damage on mugzy is so bad am I just shit at this character or something
at 12% and i'm doing 2.5m
lofty depot
Possibly
leaden birch
good ol sgares breaking the silence on val match fixing
plush prairie
frexa is in starfall talents and doing 2.94m
lofty depot
good ol sgares breaking the silence on val match fixing
Good guy sgares
lofty depot
frexa is in starfall talents and doing 2.94m
I mean, look at ur log and see what ur doing wrong
plush prairie
Still got like 45mins of pulls i'll take a look after
formal crest
frexa is in starfall talents and doing 2.94m
Who
leaden birch
fun fact, I used to play css with adreN
plush prairie
but every pull i'm out dps by him
formal crest
playing wow
Retired content
leaden birch
adreN is older than me too 😭
lofty depot
Adren was old maybe then lol
leaden birch
my parents just wouldn't let me go over the border to the states and go to LANs
i think he's only like 2 years older than me
fossil hemlock
lofty depot
i think he's only like 2 years older than me
So you're old
plush prairie
Would anyone be willing to take a look at this heroic log https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VT9WzRnmbc3MJrvN?fight=31&type=damage-done&source=13 I know it's only heroic but if there's bad habits I am doing I am probably doing it in myth too
lofty depot
still early 30s <:PepeButler:693310584598560808>
Half way to 🪦
leaden birch
damn, dead at 66 😭
formal crest
You’re still in grade school. Enjoy it
leaden birch
formal crest
I think we have something like it
eager raft
formal crest
Okay I’ll steal it. Ty Volvo
leaden birch
eager raft
that one’s cursed I love it
plush prairie
but your opener looks funny
😦
leaden birch
😦
you should open with 2x wrath > sunfire > moonfire > trees > hit what looks like your macro > dump AP with surge > convoke
you can fit in a starfire after the 2x wrath if you're max range on pull
lofty depot
Or a 3rd wrath
leaden birch
whats better?
lofty depot
Think wrath does more now if ur running ai
Can't remember
But think opener still says starfire
cursive mirage
Hey Arctic
plush prairie
you should open with 2x wrath > sunfire > moonfire > trees > hit what looks like...
So currently I am doing this
round field
Think wrath does more now if ur running ai
whats ai
plush prairie
you can fit in a starfire after the 2x wrath if you're max range on pull
This I am not tho
mighty mica
leaden birch
So currently I am doing this
just looks funny to me thats all
severe hollow
leaden birch
also I don't think you can starfall when in the cages on mugzee
formal crest
Don’t think so
plush prairie
also I don't think you can starfall when in the cages on mugzee
tbf idk why I press starfall?
formal crest
If you’re tryna pad just full send surge into those bots after they get the debuff
Convoke even
It lines up
plush prairie
do they take increase damage?
formal crest
Yes
lime blade
I don’t press Starfall at all on mug
I think for optimal parse potential you'd want to pre-starfall before you pool ap for the shocker for the first one, and then full starfall during intermission
formal crest
After finger gun
They have some debuff that they take increased damage. It’s how locks do so damn much with havoc
round field
I think for optimal parse potential you'd want to pre-starfall before you pool a...
wrong
send convoke on add
lime blade
send convoke on add
Didn't know convoke lasted 15 seconds my bad
formal crest
Idk they just melt. First add dies before my convoke is up. 2nd one dies during convoke and then I funnel rest into boss
Starfall won’t do much there at all
Funnel is bad word but you know what I mean. Rest of convoke cast into boss
plush prairie
Okay so convoke ads to pad and just before he does finger gun have a starfall rolling?
formal crest
I’d rather full send full ap surges into an add instead of Starfall
lofty depot
I think for optimal parse potential you'd want to pre-starfall before you pool a...
That implies ur in range of the 2nd and not baiting
formal crest
If anyone with hands is in your raid they will not last
Starfall would be a waste of ap
digital berry
Okay so convoke ads to pad and just before he does finger gun have a starfall ro...
How about we convoke the boss to kill it since p2 is a mess and you want to spend the least amount of time in it
formal crest
With how much damage people have you can send it into one and still get some of it into boss and push him shortly after
lofty depot
I will not be doing that
formal crest
P2 is so short
lofty depot
I'm combusting
formal crest
I think blur got a sub 5 min kill
We had a sub 6 so not as good but that fight is so short now
formal crest
I'm combusting
You damn mages. Never holding damage!
exotic perch
I'm combusting
Oh lord he busting
plush prairie
I just don't want to be doing lowest dps idk if it's my rotation or what
lofty depot
You damn mages. Never holding damage!
Actually we start holding at the end of my bust usually few seconds of hyper left
plush prairie
it's sad unironically
formal crest
I just don't want to be doing lowest dps idk if it's my rotation or what
Could be. Did you post your log
Mines p mediocre just 2.8 mil some purpee boy
formal crest
I slam into shockers
Have you done the fight as arcane
lofty depot
I will not be playing arcane ever
formal crest
I see. I respect that based decision
lofty depot
I also, almoat banned arcane on gally
But the rats figured out how to move during the spinning lazer
lime blade
That implies ur in range of the 2nd and not baiting
Baiting what?
plush prairie
Could be. Did you post your log
Yeah a heroic one, I will post my mythic one when I can still doing pulls rn
lofty depot
Baiting what?
Mines
plush prairie
Would you rather have my lowest % on the boss? or my highest dps/lowest dps?
lofty depot
They literally are
lime blade
Mines spawn when damage amp is over if your anchors cross at 98+ energy
lime blade
Amp last 15 seconds to like until ~2:08, you have plenty of time to be padlord and still do the mechanics
brisk tangle
i love pugging
formal crest
I do not
brisk tangle
an hour to get into a +17,only to wipe to the first pull
back to tryin to get a grp
for an hr
leaden birch
was it priory?
brisk tangle
workshop
leaden birch
ah yes
lime blade
We were talking about p2
What mines are you baiting during p2?
The first set there's no adds up (that don't take reduced damage), so can,T be these one, the second set (before enrage) happens 30+ seconds after the gun
plush prairie
after first set of cages, he does finger gun, you kill the 2 ads then he does mines
lime blade
after first set of cages, he does finger gun, you kill the 2 ads then he does mi...
Yeah, and as I've shown, you have plenty of time to be padlord, damage amp over at ~2:08, he mines at ~2:15
eager raft
Mines spawn when damage amp is over if your anchors cross at 98+ energy
there’s a damage amp?
lime blade
there’s a damage amp?
Yeah, when they get gunned down they take +100% damage for 15 secs
On heroic it's when health is <= 80%
eager raft
Ohhh I didn’t know that I just pipe the boss
plush prairie
Yeah, and as I've shown, you have plenty of time to be padlord, damage amp over ...
Hmm, same for mythic tho?
leaden birch
ah,i think im kinda cooked
if it's anything like queueing into a 4 stack of russki's in cs, your dungeon is going to be amazing
lofty depot
Ohhh I didn’t know that I just pipe the boss
Meh, let the locks and spr pad
Fight is beans
eager raft
Mugzee is fun idk what ur on about
plush prairie
Fight is beans
Would you happen to know how i'm doing way more casts on starsurge but he's doing more damage than me, meanwhile he's in starfall build
lofty depot
Is he doing more damage overall or more damage to boss
Because overall is because he's hitting the adds
plush prairie
plush prairie
Because overall is because he's hitting the adds
more to the boss
by over 100 mil
original one I sent
digital berry
he's casting more during cds maybe?
brisk tangle
if it's anything like queueing into a 4 stack of russki's in cs, your dungeon is...
my healer died 4 times
he died to the spider pizza
leaden birch
spider pizza tf is the spider pizza
brisk tangle
the spider that does the pizz
leaden birch
is that the mini boss in workshop?
plush prairie
he's casting more during cds maybe?
maybe but doens't really make sense as to how he's doing almost same surge damage as me but I have 6 more casts
on top of him being in starfall build dealing more damage to boss than me
glacial snow
Hi all. Can I count on raidbots which still sims Cyrce ring to make 22k dps more than a 684 myth ring with BIS stats? seems off
eager raft
original one I sent
tbh I don’t think anyone is gonna be able to give you a helpful response based on details compare screenshot. Should link the log
maiden pasture
Hi all. Can I count on raidbots which still sims Cyrce ring to make 22k dps more...
link the sim
royal zenith
link dn
mighty mica
royal zenith
ty
pliant girder
ty
royal zenith
lime blade
Hmm, same for mythic tho?
Have no idea what this means sorry
lucid olive
How about we convoke the boss to kill it since p2 is a mess and you want to spen...
huh
maiden pasture
wrong talents, and dont use gear compare
lucid olive
you spend the same amount of time in p2 no matter if you convoke the boss or not in p1
unless you're talking about the convoke after the p2 jails then sure
glacial snow
wrong talents, and dont use gear compare
What then?
lucid olive
What then?
top gear
jaunty fjord
whats a better piece for balance, House of Cards or Eye of Kezan
they sim about the same for me which is why im asking lol
lofty depot
Well kezan loses value both in m+ and in boss kills under 6m
lucid olive
i pad however much i want
pallid bay
bad
livid jay
your boys are about to drop the hottest convoke
lofty depot
Doubt
plush prairie
tbh I don’t think anyone is gonna be able to give you a helpful response based o...
Yeah gonna send in a minute
digital berry
huh
isn't p2 just the latter part of the fight starting after the intermission? If so it lasts until either you or the boss are dead, and killing it asap is better for your chances at success
lucid olive
but the phase starts when the boss reaches 40%
what does it matter the damage you do before that
digital berry
Oh my bad yeah the second convoke of the fight i guess can be all just thrown into the far add for maximum padding
lucid olive
well the question was whether to use the 2m convoke on the boss or an add
and he said that if you convoke the boss youd shave time off of p2
digital berry
the third one should come up right after he reaches 40 so it feels like a grief to pad
digital berry
i just assumed they were talking about the third one yeah
can starfall even hit the 2 adds during intermission ?
seems like a gamble
lucid olive
depends on how you stand idk but thats insane pad
lofty depot
Depends where ur standing
plush prairie
Uploading my log of the fight so should be able to post soon, which fight would be best? our best %? or my highest dps? not sure which, can send you all the wipes too
plush prairie
Yeah all the logs are from mugzee pull, will just post one of them and should be linked with the rest I think
pallid bay
digital berry
you're edging us with these logs, send the link already
lofty depot
<a:PAGGING:792395573763506228>
On the lock or
digital berry
<a:PAGGING:792395573763506228>
plush prairie
slow pc bru
pallid bay
On the lock or
yea
plush prairie
I am robux
lofty depot
Haha
pallid bay
the other chars already have it i think
lofty depot
O
digital berry
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xvqt3hQcyBNfp2Tn
if you cant start the starfire cast before the fight starts, this is entirely unnecessary, also probablyu better to moonfire and not rely on treants on pull
what is this surge even doing here
and another one here after trees before cds
you're losing a lot of dmg by delaying cds to perform the wrong opener and then sending asp before cds, or after partial cds, you want to send trees + everything else and send asp so that convoke doesn't cap you or waste too much asp
how many times do you need to cast sunfire
use asp for movement
what is going on here, why are we sting starfire on mugzee
line ca and trees up, why are tthere 2 gcds between the two spells here
also, no need to enter eclipse before ca in raid
who are you dotting
plush prairie
That part could be when bombs are going off and i'm running to get them
or when he's doing the charge spinny thing
lucid olive
refresh before exiting the Eclipse
plush prairie
the starfire stuff was when I zoned out and accidentally went to the buffed starfire bit so I had to see it through
lucid olive
you Wrath in that instance
plush prairie
Oh
digital berry
you entered cds and then just decided to spam dots ( That do no dmg) and convoked when trees buffs was already well over and ca was almost ending
plush prairie
Good to know
lucid olive
refresh before CDs
don't send CDs here you didn't have convoke available
this is ur 12%er
digital berry
you need to seriously work on your asp usage and pooling, you cast sunfire and moonfire SO MUCH for movement
lucid olive
That part could be when bombs are going off and i'm running to get them
wild charge is your best friend
wild charge and pool AP for movement
plush prairie
If i'm at max AP do I still just hold it a sec if he's about to charge and I wont be able to get a cast off?
lucid olive
also a lot of people make the mistake on MugZee of being 3-4 people in the same circle cause they are panic soaking
digital berry
have some faith in your guild mates
plush prairie
If I posted the video
digital berry
there is NO reason to run acroiss the map
plush prairie
You wouldn't be saying that
digital berry
if there is somoene right next to the soak
lucid olive
If you have a VOD it's much easier to give feedback on what you could be doing better
plush prairie
Which vod doyou want
I died on 10% before everyone else so can't do that one, unless you wanna see the rest of the fight
lucid olive
idk any vod
plush prairie
Can do the 13% as I was alive most of the fight
lucid olive
on logs I can tell you like "yeah don't use 5 Sunfires here" but I can't see what happened in the fight that made you move that much
or I can, but its a lot more effort
digital berry
My recommendations are:
-Send cds together, ca is off the gcd so you can send trees, and then ca together with a surge right after
-Use your ASP more wisely for movement, your ASP chart looks like a stalagmite cave, don't go down to 0 just because you can if you know there's movement incoming
-Be more aware of your cd timings, if convoke is up in 6 don't use trees / ca or you will fuck yourself over and convoke outside of their dmg buff windows
-Refresh dots before any big CD even if not in pandemic
plush prairie
i'll put it in a google drive
lucid olive
My recommendations are:
-Send cds together, ca is off the gcd so you can send tr...
basically this, follow these like a checklist and you'll improve a lot
digital berry
i can also guarantee you are generally moving much more then necessary, that is also a big problem that people often have when learning to raid. If you can stand still and cast there's no reason to move across land and sea or run around in circles
lucid olive
the first point though, you should send Treants first and then CA+Surge on the same global instead of Treants+CA on the same global
digital berry
oh yeah i worded that wrong
lucid olive
so like this basically
digital berry
this whole segment for example, you built your asp, then used 2 dots for movement, 3 surges and one more dot for movement? Where are we going?
plush prairie
Yeah this is really my first time playing boomie pretty much ever
like I have played it in the past maybe in 1 or 2 keys and a little in pvp but that was in SL with convoke
digital berry
We all start somwehre dw
plush prairie
My recommendations are:
-Send cds together, ca is off the gcd so you can send tr...
Okay okay sounds good
digital berry
well not me i'm just HIM
plush prairie
this whole segment for example, you built your asp, then used 2 dots for movemen...
Which pull is this btw?
royal zenith
well not me i'm just HIM
please leave
digital berry
please leave
digital berry
Which pull is this btw?
plush prairie
Currently uploading 2 videos into the google drive, will be a minute before it loads up
lucid olive
np bud
plush prairie
22%
Is it a problem that I don't have the TruffiGCD? I forgot to enable it before raid, going to enable it now for future
lucid olive
idk what that is
plush prairie
The thing to see my spell casts
like
where it like shows what buttons was pressed essentially
digital berry
I can never tell whether deux hates my guts or is joking around
royal zenith
thoughts on my movement globals @lucid olive ?
lucid olive
bit of both
lucid olive
thoughts on my movement globals <@147914503588282368> ?
mans running off
did you go find a log of me for that or
royal zenith
to be fair
of course there's things to improve
but casting something is better than nothing
royal zenith
Im leaving
lucid olive
plush prairie
I just realised what mynickname was in details please ignore
Here are the videos
plush prairie
max?
digital berry
Racist details name
royal zenith
send the sticker @delicate perch
plush prairie
no I swear
I was hacked
context I lost 140k in a gamble, prior to that I lost 80k
surely I win the next one
plush prairie
😦
plush prairie
This is gonna be so embarrassing
lucid olive
Nah you're fine
lofty depot
rip no gcd tracker
lucid olive
opened character panel mid combat nice
plush prairie
What part was that
lucid olive
macro treants to @cursor
plush prairie
I don't even have my trinket on my bars just in the macro
sometimes I press too quick and it doesn't activate so I have to open my character menu to press it
lucid olive
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Force of Nature
whioch pull was which
lucid olive
got assigned left here with frost boots, you could have gone to the very left and used that wall for the spear instead of going into the fire and LOSing yourself
plush prairie
got assigned left here with frost boots, you could have gone to the very left an...
which video is this and what point lemme c
lucid olive
then you got frost boot while you were being kncoked out of the jail
plush prairie
I hardly touched it in the ad
lofty depot
u finished the sunfire cast and moved at the end of it
plush prairie
then you got frost boot while you were being kncoked out of the jail
yeah that was scuffed, you like my clutch tho
lucid olive
what clutch
plush prairie
knocked back, stood in fire with bear form just proper druid gameplay right there
lucid olive
you went the wrong way and lost 5 seconds of uptime
lucid olive
this yeah
lofty depot
u shouldnt have ran to that soak
lucid olive
commit to the 2nd starfire
plush prairie
Yeah 😦
lucid olive
This goes back to what @digital berry said that you should trust your team
lofty depot
the pop ended up being closer to mele
that close to door area is the freeest area
because theres peopel going to soak the red circle there
lucid olive
also here is when the adds get freed, you Force of Nature -> Starfire -> CA, that Starfire is complete waste of Treants uptime
lucid olive
You do not need to enter Eclipse before you use CA there is no actual gain in that
lofty depot
which it seems liek the right side people are the ones that arent soaking
not the melee/left side
whoever this rat is
plush prairie
whoever this rat is
what he do
lofty depot
not soak
plush prairie
oh
lofty depot
he stood still for 20 seconds
lofty depot
that makes that arguemnt even worse
plush prairie
oh lmfao
lofty depot
hes not casting tranq
teal sphinx
lofty depot
soooooooooooo fuckign soak dork
teal sphinx
Been awhile since pet pic
lucid olive
You're moving fine following the boss in intermission but you are sacrificing a lot of damage playing defensively
teal sphinx
@dense steeple
lofty depot
ur high
plush prairie
Yeah I do this a lot
pallid bay
man so many wraths going into the immune add
plush prairie
that was convoke
lucid olive
that was convoke
you can position so that doesn't happen
plush prairie
Yeah I just wanted to play safe by standing there, Idk if it's true but I heard that if I pulled the boss and im on the sand part it'll start on sand?
idk
lucid olive
Yeah I just wanted to play safe by standing there, Idk if it's true but I heard ...
just precast later to be safe
pallid bay
you can just 3x wrath
tawdry prawn
anyone have the church man weakaura ?
plush prairie
If it's okay would you be able to like create a small list of impovements that I need to do so it's easier for me to try work on them, if not it's also okay I can just attempt to make my own
lofty depot
why are we afk for 3 seconds
plush prairie
why are we afk for 3 seconds
When?
lofty depot
whats there to focus on
plush prairie
Bombs were incoming
plush prairie
True
lofty depot
another one
pallid bay
True
here go watch https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2469103172?t=00h27m49s
plush prairie
here go watch <https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2469103172?t=00h27m49s>
I watched Gamz one I think already too, and someone else but don't recall his name
lofty depot
press button
plush prairie
even if it's the dot?
lofty depot
well i would prefer if u used any of the 80 asp u have
plush prairie
lmfao tbf I could've also pressed it
lofty depot
u should use BIS with trees at 245
plush prairie
u should use BIS with trees at 245
Yeah I normally do but sometimes I get impatient
lucid olive
If it's okay would you be able to like create a small list of impovements that I...
- Get better with using Wild Charge for movement. Especially in the Mug'Zee intermission you can cover a lot of ground with it. Pool AP for movement. Don't panic soak as much, trust in your team.
- Greed Starfire casts to get back into Solar, get the timings down for when to precast Starfire at the end of Solar.
- Get rid of those hideous green numbers on your screen (probably in default blizzard settings somewhere, search for combat text)
- Layer your cooldowns. Don't use Treants+CA without Convoke being up unless you will have both cooldowns available again before Convoke is back (you used it at the start of intermission once and then sent a naked Convoke in Eclipse after)
- Don't refresh your dots early, but refresh before you use CDs so you don't spend globals inside your CDs on dots
- Change your Details name and don't be racist, it's never funny, and if you think it is then grow up
plush prairie
yeahhhh
lofty depot
Yeah I normally do but sometimes I get impatient
what do u mean impatient
plush prairie
I just see a cd off cooldown and like yeah i'll press it
I don't even think about it and I just do it
lofty depot
that tree was up at 230 and u held it til 248
plush prairie
Yeah I didn't realise until it was too late
I think at that point I was thinking, i'll save my CA for convoke when it comes so I can press treant
plush prairie
idk if that's the right thing to do but yeah
lucid olive
this is egregious
lofty depot
id likely use it then
plush prairie
this is egregious
Okay this one
Last time I had that mechanic
I got one shot
Idk how I was full hp
hit my for 11m
So now I just sit bear because im too scared
lucid olive
the damage you take depends on the dmg the tank mitigates
its a tank soak
you get the tank soak, you're in CA, you go to the spot and then you refresh Sunfire+Moonfire when you're in CDs
plush prairie
It was when the circle explodes
lofty depot
god this doigshit green text
plush prairie
I think I got rid of that now
lucid olive
yes the circle exploding does dmg depending how much dmg the tank took soaking you
lofty depot
ok so ur here ur cd is about to end 4 seconds left
plush prairie
1. Get better with using Wild Charge for movement. Especially in the Mug'Zee int...
Appreciate that, put it in notepad for later
lofty depot
u have 60 asp what r u thinking about
lucid olive
most guilds also just assign externals on the tank soaks for the guys with the circle
also the new atrocity ui profile has too many random colors man
the colors on the AP bar pissed me off during prog so i removed it insta
lofty depot
allo?
lucid olive
and like 3 different types of glows on shit
lofty depot
?!?!?!
get out
wtf
this is learning time
week 500 doing keys
the fuck we doing
lofty depot
grind on this dick
plush prairie
godda improve somehow
lofty depot
how u gonna improve if u dont know what to improve
lucid olive
get repetition
lucid olive
greed swirlies and play like a dog in pug raids
lofty depot
scared of what
plush prairie
dying
lofty depot
ur like pull 100 in mugz, what do u think ur dying to
ur not dying to anything at 3-330
and thats on jah
plush prairie
so here's the thing
plush prairie
hear me out first
lofty depot
ill hear u out while this long ass gif loads
plush prairie
Basically I have only ever raieded mythic once and it was aberus first 5 bosses, I was rogue at the time so immunity heaven
and this is first season of boomie
lofty depot
ill hear u out while this log ass gif loads
plush prairie
and since im too focused on not dying I just throw my rotation out the window
plush prairie
by being dumb and just like standing in something, or you know idk just anything really
I just dont wanna die lmfao
lofty depot
ur running in a straight line
the only hting ur gonna die to is being stunned
then gun thingied
so in the time that ur pressing w and looking at the ground
use an ability
i take back getting out of the dungeon
i think u should be slamming dungeons until u have the muscle/brain memory to press surge while moving from a swirlie
whats ur wildcharge bound to
cuz i promise uve never pressed that button
u also didnt answer
plush prairie
Which question you got
lofty depot
u have 60 asp what r u thinking about
please respond
plush prairie
im worse in dungeons too
plush prairie
u have 60 asp what r u thinking about
timestamp pls
lofty depot
or was that the "i dont want to die bit"
uhh like 240** with trees and the fire soak
actually i lied
thats 320
also thats odd
i didnt even notice til now
u used incarn trees at 320 and u shouldnt be doing that
but nonetheless
when ur in cds
its 4 seconds left u have 60 asp
what r u thinking about
plush prairie
uh
lofty depot
i would say thats correct
lofty depot
u should be dumping 2-3 surges
u know why ur doing no damage
because ur not casting enough surges in ur cds
plush prairie
so should I forget about the 3 stack buff
and just send as many surges as I can in cds
lofty depot
starlord
and ur starlord has 5 seconds
when that clip starts ur starlord has 10 seconds
i wouldve dumped 2-3 and had 60 asp by the time that hit 0
plush prairie
Noted, i'll try doing that a lot more then
lofty depot
ur worried too much about having starlord at 3 stacks and not being efficient with ur time/movement/casting
plush prairie
I only started tracking is recently as I seen someone suggest it to someone else lmfao
lofty depot
oh frexa playing weird
i mean..... it helps for i suppose what they find a problem
but its just less damage if the fight lasts 6+ minutes
plush prairie
Frexa was playing starfall
lofty depot
thats not what is wierd
plush prairie
oh
plush prairie
oh lol
plush prairie
😦
plush prairie
That was when he was doing his last charge
I always press it during that point
and the frosty feet
sometimes he isn't in the pulls
so maybe that's why the overlap
lofty depot
yea
well tell ur rat fucking resto druid to press it at the start of the phase
then u guys can spread them out
also
another thing u didnt answer
plush prairie
Oh what was that sorry
lofty depot
what is ur whild charge bound to
plush prairie
b
lofty depot
so ur thumb is resting on v/b/space
FUCKIGN PRESS IT
holyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
8 TIMES
lofty depot
yes
pallid bay
wrathing with trees up
u should wrath with trees up..
scarlet tapir
u should wrath with trees up..
no u should press sprenders
pallid bay
no u should press sprenders
tread carefully.
lucid olive
u should wrath with trees up..
save the dream burst for when the dmg buff ends of course 
plush prairie
he had 25% of the charges u had
but if we are talking strictly on that, I pressed it more times than him really >:)
lofty depot
again
scarlet tapir
tread carefully.
ofc u gotta wrath to spend
lofty depot
that u cant see on ur screen
scarlet tapir
on magmorax
plush prairie
that kills u
anything really
lofty depot
cuz ur thinking ur pressing it to go backwards
u see the location ur going, turn ur camera
and go
its not like sudden u turn ur camera and that information is suddenly gone
like u know whats over there
formal crest
like u know whats over there
Just pop a uav
plush prairie
True true
I'm just nervous I aint properly mythic raided before and it was never on a caster
formal crest
You’ll learn
plush prairie
on top of that, I started on stix, went to bandit now on mugzee
I had like 7 pulls on stix and we killed it, idk how many on bandit and idk how many for mugzee rn but I am just hyperfocused on every mechanic that my dps is just horrible
idk how to get out that mindset tho
lofty depot
all those bosses have the same problem of if ur not using wildcharge
plush prairie
Yeah, I did use it on bandit
lofty depot
so in that time frame of learning stix into bandit u shouldve learned how to wildcharge it
plush prairie
like with the big circle and the fire stuff
plush prairie
so in that time frame of learning stix into bandit u shouldve learned how to wil...
well stix was only 7 pulls it died pretty easy and idk any times I needed to press it even now thinking of it idk times I could've used it
bandit I pressed it a fair bit but mugzee I just don't press it
only if a circle needs soaked after bomb and no one near it
lofty depot
id say ur not pressing it even for soaks
plush prairie
Only used it sometimes in the pulls for the soaks never really used it for much else tbh
I should get in the habit of it
lofty depot
these are things u should be thinking about in the fight while learning it
where do i need wildcharge
drifting nova
off the platform
lofty depot
where can i save time with movement
plush prairie
Gotcha gotcha, i'll try and get better
potent cargo
gg now we will know the difference between the noobs and the elite when addons are gone, news flash, the elite will be the noobs and the noobs will be the elite, top players cant play the game without addons and robots telling them what to do
drifting nova
need to start stocking up on popcorn for the "wtf I cant play now"
letting the addons play the game for you all these years
plush prairie
need to start stocking up on popcorn for the "wtf I cant play now"
Tbf 90% of the addons on my screen I don't even pay attention to
but I also don't think I cna play the game without a "AOE incoming" blasting in my ear
😢
river zenith
we use BIS with our 2nd incarn in keys and raid right?
cerulean summit
for cauldron should you starfall during the colossal clash?
when watching some people log it looksl ike they click starfall like once or twice and then just start surging, I assume it's because sending more wouldn't last the entire duration of starfall?
lofty depot
if ur running st talents no
cerulean summit
thanks!
loud kettle
if ur running aoe talents on coc im concerned
digital berry
Can we even play in the middle like locks ?
fossil shard
you can but its not as good as locks doing it
plush prairie
I saw a boomie doing it in heroic but when I do it I do less dps
lofty depot
Can we even play in the middle like locks ?
can u, sure
modern cradle
dont remove is double by itself smh
The fuck
elder remnant
Good morning dg
mighty mica
gmgm
elder remnant
How you goin Thyme?
mighty mica
How you goin Thyme?
quite alright, how're you Rae
hollow quarry
modern cradle
<:garf:1182703292313255946>
-_-
mighty mica
wrong
mighty mica
some might say that
mighty mica
noble spindle
thyme please....
celest narwhal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466479309540950026/1335846925689163786/b3...
BEYONCÉ
mighty mica
well
celest narwhal
Sabrina
dense steeple
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466479309540950026/1335846925689163786/b3...
what a goddess
native wharf
d
median charm
Hi, one question, how do we sim, patch 1 target & 5 or ?
lofty depot
generally just 1t5m
median charm
There's no aoe sim ?
novel star
Hi friends! Need some advice on how to spend my 3 goblin cartel chips. I don't have any of the BIS items and only have enough to buy 1.
gentle patio
There's no aoe sim ?
Anything else than patchwork isn't really supported.
There is a MDT sim weakaura that tries to sim dungeon routes which is fine
median charm
Got it, thx, going to search for it and i'll see
But usually we sim 1t5m and that's it ya ?
lucid olive
yes
sour spindle
Anyone have a super weird thing where your CA macro suddenly won't work? First, it showed the orbital graphic and said "Spell not learned" (despite the macro linking to CA), and an alternate version will use the trinket and cast vigil but not cast CA
/use House of Cards
/cast Celestial Alignment
ionic oak
Why cant i go into solar? Only lunar?
Is the game bugged?
gentle patio
No just yours because you picked a talent that disabled solar eclipse
ionic oak
MVP. Thank you bro.
gentle patio
Check your hero tree
lofty depot
Anyone have a super weird thing where your CA macro suddenly won't work? First,...
its a bug with the orbital talent
relog
also we dont ever use the talent, so stop talenting it
marsh basin
Do you guys think 671 house of cards or 684 priory is better for m+?
I feel it's hard to tell from sims alone since it probably depends on how the tempo of pulls interact with HoC's lower cd
vital hound
digital berry
plucky light
Hey all question, So only M+ and trying to figure out when does Cyrce's Circlet get out scalled or does it never happen for boomkin
woven osprey
prolly next season 🙂
fluid hazel
Hey all question, So only M+ and trying to figure out when does Cyrce's Circlet ...
I’ve read others in here say it kind of depends on the key level you are doing and if you need the stamina, prob in the 17-18 range
ionic oak
Yeah. I seen some boomkins say they found a combo of gear that let them replace circlet
I think rare though
I havent found a combo
Circlet gang
woven osprey
checked to top 10 boomies and the ones without circlet have crafted + myth jastors. The ones with circlet dont have myth jastors
but like infinite said its prolly more bout stam
plucky light
yeah wont ever see mythic jastors, just trying to figure out with next week having the 2nd piece with cartel chips, if it worth gettings a heroic jastors or house of cards. currently rocking a 658 Wax, and 671 haste master ML ring
ionic oak
Infinite is wack
I miss Dont Use Bloodmallet
delicate perch
Maybe they’re doing it to gaslight you
ionic oak
Top boomies prolly logging out in sub par gear
To throw people off the scent of secret tech gear
native egret
they also might not care about dps
what build for 8 mask?
lofty depot
what build for 8 mask?
press n, play guardian
wraith yew
I thought there were 5 masks
dense steeple
I thought there were 5 masks
you thought wrong bucko
dense steeple
press n, play guardian
is that how you cheesed it
lofty depot
is that how you cheesed it
yea
digital berry
i padded my little ass off with your recent suggestions on mugzee and got myself a rank 2 kill
thanks babes
true wedge
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/YGk2dz1fwx4aNLTb/self?fight=31%2C31&type=damage-done&source=114%2C54 im hood i want to compare to afk god another Bdruid.... i see he got more cast but why is his starfall hitting for almost double ? alot of our pulls we'd have same cast count but my avg was 300k while his would be closer to 700k i have alot more maastery too and more INT ..... any advice of why ?
digital berry
You casted 27 fewer starfalls
true wedge
im just wondering the avg cast difference ? i see the cast difference but why would his hit for almost double each time ...... on details it shows his avg 700k and mine 300k ... on logs it says avg 7mill for mine and his 9million
he'd usally have less dots up at the time too
digital berry
Not sure how starfall dmg is reported on wclogs tbh
Maybe he’s just standing in a better spot and hitting more stuff with his starfalls
And you’re off to a side where you are out of range of stuff
limber citrus
ebon parcel
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eMremoLW3xbcosgWZNH94T
can i rely on this sim saying infinte star > void ritual?
delicate perch
and you're a pi target? 
ebon parcel
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/42?boss=3014&class=Druid&spec=Balance
kotg is better right?
ebon parcel
And with kotg aoe build
to answer this
digital berry
Yes ofc kotg is better, I just have never simmed for a specific fight like this to determine gear choices
delicate perch
ofc it is but you're simming a mostly ST helm enchant with an aoe build at an odd timer
digital berry
I just slam 1t5m st build and call it a day
viral mirage
im just wondering the avg cast difference ? i see the cast difference but why wo...
I'm not sure about bursting at the beginning of the fight, you might burst when adds spawn
ebon parcel
i see so you are to say
void is still better since my choice of sims are not so accurate
ionic oak
sim it again with what they said to sim. 1t 5 min. KotG ST build
ebon parcel
ok
digital berry
You will most likely get more value from void anyway since the fight will be multi target for a good chunk, and void ritual wins in multi target over a st dmg proc
ebon parcel
ok gotcha
ionic oak
W
plush prairie
And hello hoc next week
That happened to me, killed bandit myth on the Monday, wasn't sure what to take myth weap or myth HoC, waited for reset and got hero HoC so I knew to take BiS myth
craggy sonnet
im just wondering the avg cast difference ? i see the cast difference but why wo...
Without looking too deeply into it, I'm guessing you are ethical gaming trying to pop the bombshells off their piles while the other guy is pumping his load into the dmg amp hyenas and stuff after they drop out of the ball
jade flume
Bossdamage>all
royal zenith
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/YGk2dz1fwx4aNLTb/self?fight=31%2C31...
look into your CD usage btw
you are popping everything on pull
You'd want to use your cd's during sorting
can also opt in to cast more starfires if mobs are near boss for more asp gain etc.
you're also trying to dot mobs when you don't really have to
losing globals which you can spend on generating asp and casting more starfalls
You also for some reason try to fit in globals in between your trees and CA, maybe cause you're waiting for it to dot* stuff?
sudden flame
Bossdamage>all
Never met a boomkin who says this
jade flume
Nice to meet u
noble spindle
you are popping everything on pull
You pop everything on pull and then bear taunt tech the first ball set
Bombaclat
unkempt crescent
Will the compendium be updated for the corruption stuff soon??
Oops I see pin nvm!
lament frigate
Do you guys starfall on 1st boss off DFC? Or just starsurges into the boss?
maiden pasture
You can starfall the minecart but probs best to just surge tbh
astral forum
Is there any YouTubers or twitch streamers who are Balance and would give good POV of balance and techs/tricks in M+?
unkempt crescent
Is there any YouTubers or twitch streamers who are Balance and would give good P...
Plenty- look up the one who plays with yoda. Was watching him for a while yesterday
He responds to questions too
scarlet tapir
He responds to questions too
@carmine vigil do u respond to questions?
solar arch
hollow mist
does he sign autographs tho
scarlet tapir
can u sign my steam account
hollow mist
can u sign my steam account
sure sweetie
cerulean summit
I have heard from a few videos people talk about boat being super valuable but I swear I remember reading that’s it’s kinda irrelevant and just maintain max stacks on starlord. I’ve always thought that if you have max stacks on starlord you are only surging or starfalling to stop from overcapping, this is true correct? Like, we aren’t spamming surge at the start of an eclipse for boat value after we have max starlord stack right?
round field
You dont really play around boat no
cerulean summit
You dont really play around boat no
That’s what I figured, some of these YouTubers got me second guessing myself 
unkempt crescent
What’s boat stand for
eager raft
Balance of all things
plucky light
Anyone know like rough raw % that jastor’s effect offers for dps output?
unkempt crescent
do we not know basic words?
Oh no, I only have yachts, those are for poors
unkempt crescent
I have heard from a few videos people talk about boat being super valuable but I...
If you have max star lord stacks and are not in danger of over capping, is the implication that you continue to cast starfires?
undone merlin
is there a way to get a red starfall effect? i saw it in the target dummy area in dornogal, but cant find anything about it
or if it wasnt starfall what was it
plucky light
Know opposite faction starfall show red
cloud citrus
unkempt crescent
Can someone help me understand the Starfire portion. If my star lord is at 3 stacks and casting one starfire will allow me to star fall, should I cast more starfire instead without over capping before star fall?
gentle patio
Strictly following the priority, yes you should cast another starfire there.
But in reality you might experience so much AP generation that you'd rather cast a starfall now so that you don't overcap during the cast of your starfire
unkempt crescent
Ok thank you. I thought I wanted to get as many star falls as possible out asap
That helps
edgy carbon
Hi, Is it possible to make the frames of enemies who are casting a spell on me appear, and if possible, be able to mouseover them to use a CC?
undone merlin
ty
jolly delta
tardy ravine
do i trust what raidbots says about my NON-meta build?
iron chasm
do i trust what raidbots says about my NON-meta build?
what does this even mean? link the sim
tardy ravine
just a keeper of the groves talent build... not elunes that everyones seems to run with
iron chasm
Dungeon slice is not accurate
scarlet tapir
Damn bro is tryna cook...
meager storm
Did u read the alert at the top
scarlet tapir
But sadly overcooked
tardy ravine
how unrealiable can it be 😛
lucid olive
lucid olive
how unrealiable can it be 😛
Not supported means not supported
Maybe it'd be more clear if the warning was red and gigantic
tardy vortex
No clear is see-through generally
iron chasm
4 stack dream burst talent too this man is revolutionizing balance druid
final sluice
lucid olive
i could sense the shame in that message delete
gray plank
haha yea dident read at all then looked xD
lucid olive
its all good, more common than youd think
at least bothering to read the messages above you is more than a lot of other people do
rigid reef
How do i sim aoe (Dungeons)? Is it dungeon slice or is patchwork 5 targets the way to go?
normal pilot
neither you can read up a few messages
hm i should just flat out disable dslice. it still makes up 13% of sims
lucid olive
can you make it so choosing dungeon slice if you're specced balance just greys out the "run sim" button
normal pilot
that's something seri would have to do and idk how easy that would be
but i can just make the sim not run at all with dslice
unless you specifically override it
lucid olive
yeah thats probably good
slim iris
lucid olive
How do i sim aoe (Dungeons)? Is it dungeon slice or is patchwork 5 targets the w...
@gray plank see what i mean
at least you realized after asking that it was answered on the message above you
gray plank
haha yea xD
normal pilot
it's fine nobody comes to discord to read
rigid reef
^
dry compass
it's fine nobody comes to discord to read
I was actually wondering the other day if we have survivorship bias because we DONT know how many people come in, use the search function, find an answer, and never post
I don't think it's a big number but I'm very curious what it is
modern cradle
anyone good with WA?
lucid olive
depends specifically what you're looking for
modern cradle
most WA i find have some indicator that I have two wraths before I go into Eclipse (lunar) Like this
but I want to make those two charges into two icons that dissapear, something like this
ignore the lightning from my mouse
but I've been playing with the auras and triggers and I'm at a loss
craggy sonnet
Would prolly require you to make one texture aura for each stack/charge
digital berry
2018?
digital berry
It's 2025 mate
Take me back
raven totem
Where do you guys usually go to practice on a target dummy (if you ever do)?
The dornogal one kept giving me weird numbers because the spells would go all other places with treants dotting other dummies, and convoke just hitting everywhere lol
Is there an isolated boss dummy somewhere?
lucid olive
yes in dornogal
raven totem
Hm
lucid olive
fly on top of the 4 towers around the training dummy area
theres a tower with a single dummy
raven totem
Oh ! Thanks
raven totem
No no, Dornogal is perfect. Cheers
smoky ibex
Yo guys!
In keeper of the grove for raid, do you still want to switch eclipse states all the time?
Seen a few videos but I don't see them talking about it other than they seem to do 2 starfires once in a while, which seems be indeed be for eclipse state swapping.
craggy sonnet
Yo guys!
In keeper of the grove for raid, do you still want to switch eclipse s...
hm? you basically want to be in solar eclipse all the time .. to get in there you have to cast two starfires
smoky ibex
hm? you basically want to be in solar eclipse all the time .. to get in there yo...
Ah that's why they shuffle some starfires in once in a while I guess
craggy sonnet
i guess so. have you leveled your druid yet?
or is this like prep
because im not sure where you got the swap eclipse states
thats like idk wrath design (not sure how long that carried on)
carmine vigil
<@166039858190614528> do u respond to questions?
😉
modern inlet
Hi guys, how can I sim for M+? Don't know if I have to go full hast mastery with my crafts
digital berry
I know dwilkz called someone a rage baiter for asking a question
digital berry
Hi guys, how can I sim for M+? Don't know if I have to go full hast mastery with...
Just sim st and use that information, it’s gonna be very similar to m+ scenarios most likely , could sim mdt too if you want
rocky hinge
Could you give me some suggestions to improve my DPS?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wvxdkWbKz7mRUEUyHd3wNk
digital berry
Could you give me some suggestions to improve my DPS?
https://www.raidbots.com/s...
This is just a quick sim, what could we possibly do to help you with a quick sim
rocky hinge
This is just a quick sim, what could we possibly do to help you with a quick sim
What simulation is necessary?
digital berry
Idk a droptimizer for loot from raid and m+ ? Sims are not how you improve
Logs and rotation is
fossil shard
Could you give me some suggestions to improve my DPS?
https://www.raidbots.com/s...
Do you mean how to improve your gear?
green jungle
yo guys quick question when popping cds like incarn and trees with keeper, during the pump are we looking to get out as many star surge as possible with trees up or more important to get out more wrath then go back into an eclipse to spam those starsurge then