#balance
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cuz wrath is fast regardless, kinda depends on timing
generally im always casting something
but in that context ur in combat
u dont need to enter elcipse
during ur kill it was living longer than 15 seconds
is the idea that you care about being in eclipse sooner more than being in it "longer" initially
the idea is, there is zero benefit to entering eclipse before using cooldowns in ST
agian in that context
its because of dreamstate
if ur not enterign eclipse out of combat
or i guess the very very marginal benefit of casting 2 very slightly faster wraths is meaningless
and ur oging to go into incarn
u dont need to enter it after dotting
u just go into incarn
well, entering ecl can proc a free FoE, then incarn will proc another free FoE
assuming you're on that stage of the buff
yea fuck ur sundered
Sundered cycling is big pharma don’t trust em
getting 9 starfires in incarn > funny 25% foe
psure the explosion part at the end of the free FoE is still 100% iirc
Ye and Boundless is uncapped
9 starfire in incarn means entering with 0 asp which is troll no?
Firmament good for AOE
fuck a boundless
don't be rude to the class fantasy
How you got enough time to cast 9 starfire in aoe without overcapping in a 14 seconds window
skill
The reasoning that the m+er moonkins use is "cycle Eclipse before Incarn on packs if you can save 1 stack of Dreamstate"
But you can also have 2 stacks if you send the Wrath while tank is walkin
At the end of the day it all feels very very min maxy
Yes, the third add lives 15sec, cuz it gets immune at some point and needs a coin. Before and after, when it actually takes dmg, it ticks down too fast to justify 2 gcd of dots on it instead of dosing bandit for ap and starfalls.
But really mature "guess I'm answering for nothing" response, soo productive.
depends what dungeon ur in, theres some cool tech u can do in cindussy
also pi/lust
Yes every minmax you want to do accounts for very little, that's just how the spec is in general
entering or not is a min max question yes
get mad about that

just press buttons, stop holding cds, live better. get gear, do dmg
Anyway, I'm out, smoking some T1 Shoulders for chill which some might need to tbh.
Anyway, I'm out, smoking some T1 Shoulders for chill which some might need to tbh.
Anyway, I'm out, smoking some T1 Shoulders for chill which some might need to tbh.
It’s pretty easy to justify dotting is the thing
can someone translate that btw
Nobody cares about your drug use habits ngl
smoking some t1 shoulders for chill
Am I having a stroke
Why's he smoking tyler1 shoulders
shoulders?
well he got rez'd in classic
so he outside wiht it right now
faker would never
And then killed after
No he couldn't
Only way for him to maybe live was someone using levitate or slow fall on him
He was omega CCd by the GM
classic shit
Wasn’t he an overall awful tank the whole time he was playing ?
dont talk about the boy like that
You watch your mouth
he was revolutionary

Tonka T the warchief
Tonka T my warchief
on jahhhhhhhhhh
He’s also 5 foot 3

has a kid
that means hes not a virgin
wheres ur kid virgin
Objectively false
Never heard of the virgin mary huh
bible is fake stories
Has a 2nd one on the way
Shame the baby mama is nuts though
the og sniper
that family has a nack for that tho
league players 
Imagine meeting the mother to your children when she stream snipes you on H1Z1
I wish
If I don't have mythic Best-in-Slots available should I just craft a staff for boomy?
Sure
hm
What the why he delete
Idk felt insensitive tbh
Pussy
I respect women
Felt insensitive to someone that doesn't know u exist
Yes
Yeah i was like wth, surely they can’t double dot all. We went in thinking was going to be a lot harder, but 12%, ilvl and nerfs we got it in 46 pulls,
You never double dotted all, we always left the melee one alone since it just died too fast
Anyone know the reason to dip in the puddle first boss cinderbrew
im taller than him so im above 6'
its to proc owlkin frenzy
in a big pull, how many mobs should i put moonfire on at the start of combat?
All that will live long enough
as many as you can throw out before tank grips them all
brand new to boomkin, what is the rule for holding/sending fury of elune in m+
do i ever hold it if incarnation is coming up?
you can just press it on cd
aight, so never just send both fury and incarn both on cd?
even if they arent synced?
The cd on fury is quite low if you keep casting
Not really you should prioritise minmaxing as a new player
with practice u will get the timings and have an idea when to hold if u think it wont be off cd by the time u incarn a next pull
but even then with the amount of moonfires u gotta cast it will prob be off cd
what should i be buying my 2nd cartel piece with when the time comes bought jastors first week
also i dont raid
this is an alt
Hi all, im looking for a way to track starlord and build a cancel weakaura for it. Are these conditions still true? Cancel if = Starlord stacks = 3 and time remaining <= 8 and Astral Power >= 87 then = cancel
dont cancelaura
Some older weakauras are using these conditions, thats why im asking. I want to build my own
dont cancelaura
why are you looking at cancelaura weakauras from 2021
Cause there are no newer ones xdd
why do you think that is
https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium#cancelaura-macros read this. At best it's not a gain, at worst it's a loss
I remember it was kinda relevant earlier, but I just read in the compendium its nor gain or loss
I see
ok thanks!
Canceling at 8s is crazy, i think canceling above 3s was dps loss in like every scenario
If you were to ever cancel itd have to be very late, but at this point just dont bother
hey guys, i'm noticing a lot of top io boomies have the stonebound artistry weapon enchant, i tried simming it on 1 target 5 minutes but it doesnt seem very great
is it good in high keys ?
Its not rly good st
Hi guys new to boomkin, I tend to go into a pull with half the mobs not dotted but I believe my issue is that I'm not properly canceling starlord and that others pad too much so I can't press starfall the entire time. I sometimes accidentally double press incarn so I use both stacks but that's kinda whatever. should I typhoon things away so they live longer?
ty for responses
not new here, played feral before ofc!! Just new boomie
ok this made me angry and filled me with rage
pickles are superior, hate u
Pickles are cucumbers
pickles are not cucumbers
They are
Theyre
Pickled cucumbers?
what is toast
toast is toast, especially good when you make toasted toast out of it
I wish someone made toast out of you
I wish that too
cheese isn't milk, grapes aren't raisins, pickles aren't cucumbers
hmmm
based idle game ur playing how far are you
i hit first eternity yesterday
ooo still new then
yeh
S k i l l
I s s u e
Bribe ur tank to let melee die to aggro on pull
ik probably dumbass question but how much dps loss is it on main target if starfall vs starsurge if multi target
in m=+
Hardly any dps loss
rude
starfall on ST vs starsurge is only a 10% dps loss
in m+ talents
It breaks even on 3t
Considering the gcds you save on dotting and the extra AP you get from these dots
ye okay so i should just starfall 90% of time instead of saving for arcane mage
like a lot of pulls in top
aslong as he has the adds during cds just send
45 targets 
u should save for arcane mage, ur just padding at that point
a good arcane mage melts prio mob fast if theres good funnel
example dwilks on 20 top hes starfalling last boss or first xav area pull even after arbilast dead pull the whole time
hes a certified noob sow hat
him starfalling last boss is that not to kill the ads?
No way he’s just starfalling the whole damn boss fight unless they pulled smth into it
By the way KANEEE said it, seems like he was pressing it the whole fight, but I too doubt it
probably just when ads spawn
Hello I have a question cuz I think sim got confused about 2 active trinkets so I just get mister lock trinket and I am using PSF one and cards and I am thinking about switch psf one for mister lock but sim shows me something like 5-6 % lower dps than psf one is that true or it just got confused about the 2 active trinkets ?
Mb
The link
link for finished sim or the menu ?
I am kinda new to this
If you are simming 10 things for 1 min it’s going to put two active trinkets as best because it can use each with a charge of incarn
Honestly if you are new to simming just do 1 target 5 minute top gear sims
😏
They have a blog post on the raidbots website about it
put ilvl
that too
there's a bunch of publically available information on simming correctly
Actually wow the blog is gone
when it comes to Fight Style's it differs a lot based on the spec and how their modules and APL are written, for Balance you're better off just sticking to 1 target 5 minute patchwerk
Also, for this particular sim, if you want a passive trinket, then try and get the Darkflame Cleft wax trinket or heroic Moxie Jug/Eye of Kezan
alternatively the Entropic Skardyn Core trinket isn't bad either
ye I am trying for them but still no luck
and I just got that one and wonder if its worth to use it untill I get one of the above
Lock n stalk = bad
I see ty u
Hey folks, slayed bandit and got bis+hoc myth right now.
Which one do i wanna use with incarn+Convoke and which one for the single incarn? Feels like hoc is giving more stats on use so might be the right choice to use with convoke? BiS is more comfy cuz 2 Minutes 😛
Hoc with Convoke yes
BiS with treants
Hey guys, ive got a sim question, is there a way to see the uptime that the sim uses for the entropic skardyn core? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rxQcECDJX7roGy4LAU8NWn is my sim
Pretty sure you can in quick sim idk in top gear
ah thanks ill look into it!
Press the 3 dots next to the top iteration of the trinket and then click "run quick sim", then in the quick sim you can click "open html report" on the right side below the sim information (or just ctrl+f and search for the word "html")
I'm on mobile so it's scuffed, but it's this button to run quick sim
oh wow thank you very much! ❤️
any 5 mask pumpers here?
Somebody posted the achievement
anyone got a simple WA pack for a beginner? the normal bloatware stuff on wago is kinda overwhelming
ty!
So is it smart to macro BiS with treants / FoE? Or just press it 15 sec after HoC / off cd
any Eu druid boomkin willing to go through what i need to be doing to smash
Press it with your recons charge of ca and then inside eclipse with fon/foe as long as cards/ ca / convoke is over 30 seconds off
You’re looking for a log review or what? Why eu specifically
well , EU as time difference may not work for some , more a help of what I am doing wrong ect nothing massive
logout, turn off pc, go to a bar
did that saturday lol
good boy
is it a thing to time Sundered Firmament with your incarns so that you get double beam during incarn?
by beam i mean foe
can you elaborate on what you mean
so sundered firmament gives you a fury of elune on every other eclipse
so you could time your incarns so that you enter eclipse, fury of elune (now you have 2) and then incarn
but obv that means you dont get 2 dreamstates
i think starfall is generally considered the spell we want to maximize over, so that sounds like a dps loss to me but idk, does anyone know?
Dreamstate would be more valuable in general
i see
there's an argument to be made for Sundered Firmament in aoe
because starfall wins out there i guess
but its not because of the FoE damage or the AP gen
but the Boundless Moonlight proc
ah
But if you play properly you can always enter Eclipse with at least 1 stack of Dreamstate
yeah, thanks for the insight!
Is there a good weakaura for balance ?
Ty
Well to tell you what you’re doing wrong someone would need to see a log or a vod
happy to chat and stream
People usually pay for that kind of hands on one on one help ngl
ooo thought it was a community, never mind.
well yea, the question is how much time you want someone else to invest
usually you will get a lot of good information if you are asking good questions or post a log etc
and most of the information is already covered in the dreamgrove.gg guide
Just a few pointers, nothing in depth, I know time is valuable. perfect I will start there
Literally all you have to do is post a log and people will give you direct pointers and answers, and since it’s on a public forum the hope is that others could read the pointers you’re getting and learn from it
ooo thought it was a community, never mind.
we're all a part of arctic's roasting community
Don’t lump me in with the likes of yall
in the sense that we roast arctic
Is there a wa that shows when candle procs and to stand in it
standing on it is worth like a single gem of stats
dont need to track or pay attention to it
Is vers really worth that little?
thats a bit of an understatement
its like 20% of the proc value
hey reposting my question since I got no replies, anyone can tell me what's the best? even though I assume is a minimal difference
in aoe u would dump a starfall, its dynamic so itll update when u get into eclipse
in st, if i was in said situation i wouldnt surge outside of eclipse
but more importantly.... just dont be in that situation
doing my level best to avoid that
but thanks a lot for the clarification
Never overcap on AP. Pressing anything is better than wasting it.
ooo thought it was a community, never mind.
Hi bro, how do you play on stix ? First try i'm gonna try stix mythic... what should be the priority ? what should i sun/moon fire ?
ty... can you explain me this part ? If you are the only Moonkin on your team, you can use Growl iconGrowl to taunt the boss before he uses the first Electromagnetic Sorting iconElectromagnetic Sorting of the fight so you are not eligible to get picked for ball on the harder sets of the fight until the very end when the boss has cycled through every player.
what exactly are you confused about?
Sorting is the boss ability that starts the ball + add stuff
how taunt9ng the boss in that phase, make u immune to get ball for x time ?
ah
the active "tank" always gets a ball
so by taunting you are guaranteed that ball
oooh ok, so basically, u take first
and are inelligible to be picked again until everyone got it at least once
Ok ok, got it, thank you
yea, you just taunt shortly before the bw/dbm timer
Either sim st and be content or mdt but that takes a bit more work
Can I play Fluid Form over Nature's Vigil or is Nature's Vigil really good now?
tyty
strong vibes tho
I'm curious why the wowhead talent build is different than the one on Dreamgrove for M+ though
Hello can some 1 recommend me good plater ?
jundies
I see M+ builds for both hero talents. Are they both good or is one clearly better? I'm just gearing a Druid and setting it up and wasn't sure
ec is better in higher keys
Kk thanks. I'll use that build then 😄
in keys is melding for the extra 2 dream states on start of pull even worth doing?
u do it after uve used the first dreamstates, and ur woe charges
u also would only do so if u dont need meld in the next 2 minutes
“Yeah sorry guys I used meld to cast 2 spells a little faster lol”
(I do it anyway)
Is there a list of the abilities that can be melded in keys?
theres a weakaura of targetted spells
generally u just need to learn the ones that will kill u
Does someone know why my char sims higher with double passive trinkets rather than 1 active? I have blazikon myth track and it sims moxie's heroic higher on the other slot, higher than house of cards (heroic) and higher than priory (myth)
For 5 targets 5 minutes
link sim
Fk i closed it, let me re run it i'll send
Droptimizer for Cartel chips (this includes both house of cards and mug): https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hJLoSjBagwh3RVu86epU8u
Droptimizer for priory: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4U5sLWwvrKgUKnzTfaoYuC
droptimizer does weird stuff sometimes .. so i would always consider running that in top gear and adding the trinkets manually
5 tar 5 min lol
also 5t5min is not super relevant for gearing decisions (other than some niche effects/dynamics that clearly scale with target count)
You love to see it
I've read that dungeon slice sucks, so what do you guys recommend for simming?
for m+
I'll try with that

hc stinky

jug is simming crazy good
Because it is
😮
Crazy thought
not claimed anything else
I just simmed several routes and most sim better with heroic house of cards and mug, and a couple with house of cards and blazikon myth
Thanks guys!
what do you mean by routes?
Used the mdt sim
Yeah just a couple simmed better so yeah ima go for hoc and mug
why am i getting kicked from 10s man
bad tmog?
Lol
maybe? not everyones cup of tea
maybe
if I saw that in my group I too would kick
yep that's a remove from group
these are my favorite groups tho
clearly not his main, clearly good at math
imagine doing 7s 
gotta push your key i g
wrong
Probably referencing an older season to make it sound better
update ur addon noob
this guy is believing in the 20th psychic link change
That's what I've noticed when I look into those ones
or they just got 3.2k since the last update
you be a rat and and sneaky into mates weeklies
I notice the number they were saying was from a different season
i update my addon everyday wtf
One time Last season they were referencing a s1 df score lol
they do a little rounding but thats just m+ers for u
5k io bfa s4 or what
putting 6.3k io main when I play alts now
legion post season went hard
How do you get an intellect Best-In-Slots? Dreamgrove says to get it but the cartel chip vendor only has the agility one for me?
they are the same weapon
Read the ability
Out of combat use changes it to caster mode
did bfa post season get into 6k?
Awesome thanks
ya well above I think we were like a key or two below the gamers
thats insane
Crazy
ya it went up insanely 
mfin mages 
io scaled differently
actually, there is a rdruid with 9.8k
ye it was well before the good changes to score
question for boomie specialists
if we dont have parting skies buff in m+
is it worth to activate it in first pulls of m+ by entering eclipse and the pressing incarn to have it ready for 2nd incarn?
Is there a world where I need to recraft my chest to crit mastery or is this sim bait?
why are u simming 7 mins
I expect to be on oab until death

alright well crit is good but if u dont want to recraft it just do the closest option without recraft
bottom one
my vaults lookin crisp for tomorrow
thats not a 7m fight
7m is the one shot
i will say again
its not a 7m fight
mugzee is barely a 7m fight now for first kills
enjoy your socket I guess 
wasnt even 7 minutes for me this past week
we killed it at 651
thats the plan
6:25 get got
better guild, wcyd
no idea man
You can sim it for urself but generally yeah
thanks
Vaullts lookin decent my man
Broski still needs vault loot week 500
missing 1 myth track piece
feelsdbad
fill the third slot soma
dont hold yourself back
im holding myself back
i dont do chores on monday
i was lucky enough to log in at all today
If I love guardian but also do some M+ with buds as moonkin, which item should I get with my puzzling coins? I am just starting out in M+ and I don't have any mythic kills in raid. should I just snag the ring or grab a trinket that can be used for both specs?
does anyone know if theres a new catch up event like nightfall? didnt realize nightfall was gone
Just go jastors, it’s not like you’re going to be running hoc on bear anyway
Well you can buy I believe champ gear with the horrific visions
Does anyone know if "Balance of all things" stack? Does it make sense to cast wrath/starfire twice to enter eclipse and then press incarn? There are 2 icons in buffs but not sure if they actually work together...
Nightfall is not gone.
Balance of all things is never a consideration for what you should be doing, it’s a very minor buff. There is very little reason to enter eclipse before incarn in m+, and zero reason in raid
I know it's a min/max thing but still, would be nice to know if it actually stacks
Send here

Ty @pallid bay

Wait what’s wrong with dotting the barrels
the fact that you're not
you should also have trees up which would handle the dotting for you

me as hell
Fat
@lofty depot could never... (he should)
(he should, agree)
but knowing him he will just place eggplants
cause his advice is shit anyway!!

yo my boomie is at 635 from last season, after missing 12 weeks of vaults is there any point me gearing it now
or do i just wait for next tier to play it again
What's your goal?
Because unless you're giga pushing you can do just fine in full hero gear
I mean you can farm infinite gear and infinite crests
i raid as ret
could i do 12/13's at say
665-670?
or is it not online by then
i was boomkin all of DF
also for tier 1 on tww
ret is just giga aids to get into keys, im 681 3.1kish score and still struggle to even get into 12's
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/drY79j6pMzbZ2hVv?fight=35&type=damage-done can someone log review me please im joepapa in this
bare in mind i didnt have convoke on my bars so i had to go into my spell book and drag it on there and then click it the whole fight 
its the most intense game setting

people did 10s with this gear
im sure you'll be fine in a 12
huge
people did 15's in 655 gear
i havent really seen many boomies this season tbh
huh?
in my keys + raid
no boomies
and the pug boomies ive bumped into in heroic have been nuggets
ive also been surprised i usually always had them in my keys etc
https://raider.io/characters/eu/stormscale/Joepapä can have a look thru though i legit have been seeing like none
that's true


it's you

no
It's time to reform
and Ill have you know that Deuxb has done a 13
and is PAMPING
deuxbaladin?
A 13 
it's the highest I will go this tier
Deuxb has done 13 reasons why
huge
(jk I still need a million crests)
gonna dm it to your mom
like its something hard
"I'm 50 years old and got 3k for the first time, super proud"
theres no network 6ft under
Waiting for the thread
im gonna make out with ur dad np
lots of gold to be made
Merry Christmas @ionic surge (everyone it’s his birthday)
Happy birthday
Joyeux anniversaire Miikeul
عيد ميلاد سعيد @ionic surge
did we just get cursed?
Certainly a slur
gg i forgot to deliver my dinar quest on an alt and now theres no catchup

Wdym no catchup
WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO CATCHUP
Oh no
yeah my evoker learnt that earlier in the week. gg blizzard, surely an oversight 
Ok noted I’m handing in my mage and priest and … warrior and paladin and monk and evoker and shaman

Wait til dinar spend week Blizz will add catch up for all the baby ragers
Do we get greater corruptions this reset?
Bon Anniversaire goat @ionic surge
@ionic surge tg fdp 
GG lol
ye no catchup deadge
is this just how LFG is on NA or
why do u not have a spam filter
??
or maybe i have a spam filter on EU thats not enabled on NA and i never thought about it who knew
We dont boost on eu
idk i haven't seen a WTS group since like Shadowlands
People are too good
thats wild
Is that why they're selling boosts? Because people are good?

na chall
is eune chall
dont even need 4 digit lp for it
trash region
na gm is 500 lp

na is a very terrible soloq region
Yea this actually looks crazy. Idk if that's maybe just because it's still super early NA after reset? So not a lot of actual groups around?
But never seen this on EU either in the last years
its because its monday for na right before reset noones running hardly at thios hour /time
I've thought about it. Mages draw houses on logs when people aren't casting spells
had a good read of his log review 
How come so many run crafted ring over circlet? Sims worse for me in every scenario 🙃
Maybe im gay?
Idk what that would has to do with the ring but go off
Apparently something magic with mdt sims spits out crafted over circlet
So switch to circlet, and start dating men ✅
@lucid olive mm is so dumb
im here no trinkets no embelishments no NOTHING
and this shit cranks
does anyone have dwilkz plater or naguura ?
their discords probably
Tell salus to step it up
i am feeling the same with deva right now. This spec just blasts
remove raid buffs so we see 12 stacks again
and by again idk what I am talking about. I actually dont know what was the highest class stack

Enough rampin
If incarn is running out along with starlord, should I pool AP to stack starlord back up after incarn or dump all of my AP into the incarn window for dmg?
dump generally
Thanks to everyone who said it
Idk how you knew but gj
Rae knew it
WE are chronically online
in MDT sims skardyn is 1.2% upgrade on hc house of cards do you think its viable?
i do that but only when my starlord is ending 
starlord cancellers should focus on other parts of their gameplay
yeah
No u
like canceling starlord better

never cancel..
just cancel lilbro
our mugzee ur mugzee?
do u actually cancel?
Thats a green parser for sure
iqnious sprocket
I just do it once after incarn cause i cba waiting 3 sec to spend
sometimes
ill translate for u guys
vibe thing
Dsune classic...
grow up dsune.
I stopped canceling starlord because my keybind is gone
void beams are difficult
that was cauldron..
shbut up priest palyer
classic dsune twisting facts...
shoulda cancelled
Man im pumpin as boomker in alt raid on god

Shouldve seen it
Hey guys, still leveling my druid but which site has better guides for balance between wowhead and icyveins?

Neither! dreamgrove.gg
if anything i shouldnt have spent
lol
yes it is written and maintained by the nerds from this channel!
who u calling nerd
might be an overcap without spending though..
you!!!
you.
Opened it rn, it's neatly written, tyvm 😇
okay then
get out of the house maybe...
not happening
colored names speaking..
log in arc raiders
can't analyzing starlord uptime
5?!?!??
bro is built diff
Dont have CA/Surge macrod?
Who is this guy
If u had it macrod same thing woulda happened no? U were in gcd from treants
didnt check boss hp..
Winning hand
wait is cancelling starlord a thing? (serious question)
i will do this instead..
xddd


Timberweaving
nah not really. ppl do it for vibes but it’s dps neutral at best
And a reasonable dps loss at worst
Big vibes gain tho
ait fair enough ^^ I could see it being nice in m+ when I have astral power banked for 2x starfall but 1-2 sec left
prepatch...
or was it the "fix" to beartech
pulsar rf was prepatch
Thats weird yesterday i went to do it and couldnt get the weekly quest for the token on my fresh 80
when is chicken quiting healing
i quit already
what u playing
Game or

no, healing
mage
he's a baws
Apparently healers are not real
thats correct
who voted for this name change
he was forced to heal...
like 19 ppl
he was forced to heal

are u boss toilet
take a guess
lidl company was such a fun name..
ur 40
sponsorship ended
30 actually get it right thanks
nocco ended sponsorship -> advance is now rwf guild

🥀
child
pipe down wallahi we are not on the same team
damn
We all on the same team
Chillington
😎

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Bluds crashing out
Just don't go bear form
+1
what's bear threat modifier?
exactly what it sounds like!!
tanks damage does more threat then regular damage
Bear form makes u scary, mobs get very angry when ur bear
people above me cant type, when u go in bear form the damage you do makes you generate more threat compared to you not being in bear form. you will still do damage while in bear form through dots and starfall
this was meant for offtanking in classic world of warcraft but they dont want to remove it
very eloquently put, thank you Chickenxd
oh, thank you for that. so we generate more threat as boomies in bear form, but still seems like it would be kinda negligible its its just dots?
DH threat sucks, half the abilities dont generate threat, other other half hit 3 targets, and if you go bear while a fury is active its very possible you take agro
U play hunter so ur opinion isn't needed or wanted
was always a thing
but its more when u pull new shit
what in the
no I mean I believe that it exists I just don’t believe it’s as much of an issue as ppl are currently making it out to be
if ur playing like
stix
and u go bear for a pylon
thats where u see it
when new adds would spawn
and u wold for some reason be in bear with a fall ticking
thats where u see it
there is not really much point in it being a thing in retail world of warcraft
agreed fully. Seems like it should be an easy thing to fix
the moments where ive taunted something were raden and denathrius for some quirky shit
but the taunt itself is good enough
There’s a good chance blizzard doesn’t even know it still works like that

they also buffed it a few patches ago
"all tank threat buffed!" on wowhead
yea but
that doesnt matter much
if ur blanket buffing everything else
ur not fighting over aggro with a dps
yeah for sure, just funny since its the only threat modifier that's class based instead of spec based

thats a lie
maybe currently sure
but there have been abilities that generated tank threat on dps
of the ones they usually tune for sure
How many years did havoc dh have VDH threat modifier on immo aura 
multi billion dollar company gg
Spaghetti code, no business value in rewriting whole thing
Same things at the company I work at now
No bugs but just efficiency wise
You can spend a year rewriting ancient code for no actual monetary value or just bandaid fix everything and keep making money
bro ?
lol

we're unbinding bear in the big 25
cant unbind if it isnt a bind...
first boss of darkflame, do we starfall or starsurge, too many conflicting responses
starsurge the mine cart and then starfall as a sweet treat afterwards
Excellent
Mage main says to Starfall, based ty adept
I never even considered threat to be something I had to worry about when going bear lmao
learn something new every day
i'm a warlock main now 
Stop swapping!!
glizzygodx has a mythic chug jug what am i supposed to do
Get it on ur mage in 2 weeks idk
hes on the bench now the chicken is back
sometimes u have to embrace ur talent bro u wouldn't get it
Holy
insane
🐐 insane
-_-
where the servers at
?
someone forgot to hit the on switch
should of played ptr to make sure org visions worked
in response, they will timegate maintence
deserved

is there a tool like wowanalyze to break down buff usage? I know it shows CD usage, but I am sure im misusing dreamstate/frrenzy procs
can't really control frenzy procs so wouldn't see the value in that?
i think the timeline part of wowanalyzer can show if you have dreamstate and warrior of elune buffs at the same time even if there's not a particular box for it
i'm sure @woven moon could add that if he wanted to
i don't comment in here often but when I do, it's because i've been humbled and actually do not know what the hell I'm doing. My boomie was doing awful DPS and then someone pointed out I do too many starfires and too few starfalls. Boss dps, I do just fine though. But my overall was 2.6ish while the other two were almost at 4m. This was in a 10
False
Watch the goats in floodgate last boss perma jiggle in an out of the pool
Cheeky frenzy procs
@lucid olive
did u see how broken mm is when it procs
lil bro 660 with no on use trinkets going 25M dps...
i got like 4 tier set procs in a row
Aim labs wont fix ur crippling birth defects
681
Did u sim it
servers up yet?
yes
nice
logged on NA, grabbed socket, logged out
5 weeks in a row with socket yay

bfa post season








