balance

[lofty depot]

generally i was saving at 330 or 430

[leaden birch]

is weekly the reason why this sim is so low

[lofty depot]

no buffs

[leaden birch]

k that makes sense

[dense steeple]

taunt is the correct answer

taunt first add set

never get ball again

ggez

[digital berry]

@dense steeple good prog bro boss is dead this week for sure

[dense steeple]

thanks my brother

you get gally first though

[hazy bronze]

but then im not pressing cds until like 2 minutes in (and also i dont think that fixes the issue of running out of cds at 4:30 set)

the issue was that i didnt get ball so i ran out of cds

[digital berry]

yeah that's jsut how it is

but also you shouldn't run out of cds until set 6

[dense steeple]

heres the way i see it

[digital berry]

set 5 your cds are late

[dense steeple]

youre not getting any value out of the first set anyway

[digital berry]

so you can hold and use on set 6

[dense steeple]

cause EVERYONE is pumping those right off the rip

[digital berry]

but idk nowadays how man ysets u even get

Also if you do taunt Strat you use cds on pull

[hazy bronze]

idk how to do st damage with boomie

is it even worth it at that point

[cloud lion]

Is it even worth playing eye of kezan in raid cuz fights are shorter?

[exotic perch]

Gally still is

Rest probably not

But in a few weeks even then gally will be a 7 min kill so less

[cloud lion]

From all trinkets i get one that i dont want

Also rik reverb 10 times

[exotic perch]

Thats what dinars are for

[cloud lion]

But i wanted 1 from vault

Other from reclear

And dinar for best in slot

[exotic perch]

3 dinars so you can always get the trinkets

But honestly use em on very rares

[cloud lion]

Gona buy best in slot probably but after reclear

[honest mica]

so i have hc House and moxie jug, and vault gave me mythic signed and mythic remnant of darkness, any reason why i would take those instead of a socket?

sims say they're no increase too

[cloud lion]

I took tmog got prio last week it wasnt upgrade

And already full socketed

[pallid idol]

does anyone know why best-in-slots randomly gives 1300-1500 of a stat isntead of the amount listed on the tooltip??

[vital hound]

incorrect

rip on pull

rip off the ball

ur gamin

[bitter ridge]

possible to summon the best dinars for us, in an easy way?

i dont know what to take

[vital hound]

pins

[digital berry]

Off the ball? You’re trolling

[cloud lion]

Can we get all horrific visions upgrade in 1 day?

[vital hound]

off the ball

why not ya know

[digital berry]

Cause it’s straight up trolling

Just hold for next set

[digital berry]

Can’t get greater this week

[cloud lion]

I mean upgrades for sanity?

Grind thing

[stark cypress]

No

[vital hound]

they're up next set

[stark cypress]

its timegated for next week

[cloud lion]

Ty

Nothing else to do on 1 fps at office

Grind of visions at least for tmogs

[stark cypress]

lol ya

[wind turtle]

Well the lesser rune of infinite stars doesn't do jack

[dense steeple]

need 40k mementos for big mount

double the last grind lmao

[exotic perch]

Just wait 2 weeks once everything is unlocked

Pretty sure you crank like 4k+ mementos then a run with masks

[deft pumice]

Do we have an option for aoe/M+ sim or only patchwerk

[exotic perch]

You can use mdt for m+

[arctic quiver]

simming my toon for head enchant it tells me gushing wound is best... but its doing 2 mil over 2 min... that can't be right can it? I see in the pins void ritual generally is performing best not sure what to go with lol

[digital berry]

How are you simming ?

[arctic quiver]

ST raidbots

[digital berry]

Show sim

[arctic quiver]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o6vvXAyCysHkuCgap8UtJF

[digital berry]

Surely that’s not the sim you wanted to show

[arctic quiver]

new to this what do you mean

[ionic oak]

sim in st talents and run the sim again with what the head enchants

[digital berry]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dq8T3HoKnhrVugwFF2CEf7

Smth like this

But with a build that’s relevant to the content ur trying to do, if you’re simming for m+ this is fine but for raid you’d probably want kotg

If you select a bunch of talent tees at the bottom the sim will prioritize comparing talent trees

[arctic quiver]

yeah im in keeper i dont know why it pulled my m+

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1QjqzrfmuM7ewXwEvaaN7X

that better?

[digital berry]

Yeah like that

[arctic quiver]

the current gear is with void ritual on

[digital berry]

The lesser ones are very meh and close together, 3k dps is… not much on a 2 mill dps character

[arctic quiver]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/512v3C9MLyLnmWAKGuUwVc

same thing then 24k isnt much on a 2mil?

[digital berry]

Well that’s 8 times the amount

0.1% upgrade is more like a sidegrade then anything else

[arctic quiver]

i know that lol i was just wondering why it says gushing over void or if im missing something is all

[digital berry]

Probably due to your gear being still low ilvl? Maybe a dmg proc works better since your stats are low

[arctic quiver]

that's fair

[digital berry]

Wouldn’t worry about it too much for now since we can’t even get greater still next week

[meager storm]

just run ritual void, best for m+ and sidegrades for raid st

[digital berry]

Also that I guess

[arctic quiver]

lol fair enough thank you all ❤️

[ionic oak]

void wins for me clear.

[digital berry]

It’s some 0.3% ahead for me

Greater

[misty quail]

When im simming cyrces and jastor with other rings that are better do I trust the sims?

[ionic oak]

yes. no rings will beat it

lol

"better"

[vital hound]

thats a lie

[misty quail]

Well i have champ jastor and i got crit mastery myth track ring that is better according to sims

[vital hound]

but go off king

[ionic oak]

oh then do it

[misty quail]

I just wanted to know if sims count in the jastor passive stuff?

[vital hound]

ye

robot good

[ionic oak]

it does

[vital hound]

listen to robot

[misty quail]

Ok thanks, finally Im no longer in 658 ring jail

[ionic oak]

must be nice

[digital berry]

I’d be curious to see the sim

A champ jastor beating cyrce is… interesting

[misty quail]

No, myth track ring beating champ jastor

[digital berry]

Oh by 658 ring jail you mean one of the two

[vital hound]

yea cyrce gets beat with double 684

@fossil shard link sim

[digital berry]

Haven’t been able to sim myself out of cyrce jail

[misty quail]

Can send you my sims so we are clear what I meant

[digital berry]

Nah ur good I misunderstood

[ionic oak]

i have not simmed myself out of cyrce/jastor champ jail either

[vital hound]

idek what ring nobody has

[misty quail]

Also simming 1target 5mins is still the way for both pve content right?

[vital hound]

i just know of the sim

[digital berry]

Yes

[digital berry]

I even tried myth jastor + mastery heavy myth wheel

Cyrce beat the wheel

[vital hound]

yea probs depends on other gear

NAUGHTY

[fossil shard]

she large

some might even say hefty

[vital hound]

b e e f e r

[ionic oak]

if only i saw one of these rings

[digital berry]

Simming on mobile is a curse

Can’t even see what the fuck I’m doing

[ionic oak]

lol

i logged back in just to sim

brb shower

[digital berry]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/h7nr4xUfhMFpBWnSaq9hT6

Even a wheel doesn’t sim better

[vital hound]

wrong wheel

[digital berry]

Fuck me I knew it

[cloud lion]

Guildmate got on war hast mastery ring with mastery being highest

Fking war

[digital berry]

Fuck simming on mobile

Im going to bed

[fossil hemlock]

It counts the buff on you, but I'm unsure if it counts the buff it gives to others

[digital berry]

If it’s not my dps idgaf

In fact other people having higher dps take away from mine on most fights so it’s a crux

[mortal skiff]

I might be blind as shit, not going to deny that. BUT, what headenchant are we gunning for? 😄

[digital berry]

Pins

[mortal skiff]

Fuck, yes. thanks xD. Morning

[ocean palm]

Is the greater void ritual available this week, or it is just lesser?

[vital hound]

just lesser

greater is 2-3 weeks iirc

[ocean palm]

tyty

[brisk tangle]

So do we know which lesser we taking

[fossil hemlock]

Even on my phone discord I can still see the last conversation talking about it

[brisk tangle]

Wym

[fossil hemlock]

5th and 6th message above your question is the exact same question and answer

[brisk tangle]

Ah void ritual

[balmy gate]

are the corruptions 1 time use?

ah yes they are, but u can buy another for 500 tokens

[true viper]

bro replied to himself

[vital hound]

chaotic good

someone give him expert

[livid jay]

has anyone simmed how much the lesser head enchants give?

[round field]

probably less than the greater ones

you can also just sim it?

you lazy fuck

[wary ruin]

hey

from horrorific we use Lesser Rune of the Void Ritual?

[livid jay]

exactly

[livid jay]

i assume if greater void ritual was simming best from greater ones then lesser void ritual will sim best from lesser ones

[swift crater]

Finally got a vault that wasn't absolute trash, had Cinder mythic neck, simming lower than my crafted 💔

[livid jay]

sim again with recrafts on other crafts and with enchant/gem sim 😄

[zealous river]

What would you take?

[toxic pulsar]

Socket

[livid jay]

sim it

[vale pebble]

[jade flume]

Have u

[fickle mango]

Hello there guys,

i'm completely new to the mighty Boomkingameplay. I feel like i dont know when to press my CDs. Do i just press WoE and FoE on CD? How do I utilise Incar the most?
I got some logs for you, if interested. Feel free to roast me, i wanna get better and get behind the magic of going brrrrrt.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YHjG27Pwhang3cvx?fight=4&type=summary
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/YHjG27Pwhang3cvx/4-Mythic++Operation:+Floodgate+-+Kill+(30:56)/Lehria/standard/overview

[round field]

its like

get 3 cans of monster

press the same 2 buttons for 30 minutes

and hope you dont fall asleep

or something

[plush prairie]

I hate myself

[round field]

uh

cool

[plush prairie]

I just killed bandit on myth

Now it's giving me HoC when I can get myth version

[round field]

i mean

not like ur gonna buy mythic hoc

[plush prairie]

How not?

[round field]

mug jug exists

weapon exsists

[plush prairie]

So basically

I should take HoC hero, buy the BiS weapon, recraft hands and feet for the embellishment and then in 2 more weeks purchase myth moxy

[round field]

i mean you can sim the 4 items

[round field]

but house of cards is probably not gonna be the best

[fossil hemlock]

Something like that, yeah

[livid jay]

dont have much time to check now but u are sometimes randomly wasting like 5 seconds of your incarn still dotting

once u press incarn its starfire starfall spam and nothing else

also u press warrior of elune before incarn there

optimally you would go into incarn wth 2 dreamstate charges

then u would use those first

and then press warrior of elune

[plush prairie]

53k increase with current setup

well with doing what I said

[round field]

[plush prairie]

pretty neat

[livid jay]

@fickle mango looking at your ap graph it looks like you are using starfall whenever you can instead of whenever you have to. Check dreamgrove guide aoe prio list again

[plush prairie]

71k increase with myth HoC

[fossil hemlock]

What's your talents? Because 2.4M sounds low for 676 ilvl

[plush prairie]

M+ talents

[fossil hemlock]

That would explain it

[plush prairie]

Someone told me I should sim M+ talents 1t 5m

as you need m+ single target damage too

[livid jay]

also @fickle mango go to this conversation where i explained a lot of stuff to someone who you mgiht have similar beginner issues with

[plush prairie]

I just wish that moxy jug was in my vault

I still have champ

[brisk tangle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dsES5scLJ9yR9BfwsLdpmu
so gushing wound is best? huh

[fickle mango]

@livid jay wow, thanks for the advice! i will have a look at it. 🙂

[fossil hemlock]

0.2% difference ST, but gushing has 0 aoe scaling

[brisk tangle]

so void ritual then yeah?

[fossil hemlock]

That's the safe and easy bet

[plush prairie]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cfqcyLaj1Hh6D8idNQ6KDy

This look more normal?

simmed ST

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah looks more normal

[plush prairie]

Good

So yeah, think it's best I just take Hero HoC and buy BiS and recraft items, just wait until 2 more weeks to purchase Moxy

[warm wave]

is this week spark week or catalyst?

[jolly delta]

fwiw this is correct

[plush prairie]

fwiw?

from what I want

idk

[vital hound]

for what its worth

iirc

iykyk

[tawdry oak]

what lessers are people getting when they sim

or greaters w/e

in m+ spec I got the infinite stars one

in a raid st spec I got void ritual

[jade flume]

How much deeps are people gaining from lesser void rituals in sims

Any simmers

[livid jay]

can u link raid st spec sim?

[fossil hemlock]

1.2% in my ST sim IIRC

[lucid olive]

At least one whole deeps

[jade flume]

Shieet, not bad

Gonna pump on looqd this week

[tawdry oak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/htpzaP9WbKCQm6ofMa8vMf

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah

[tawdry oak]

generic st cleave spec

[jade flume]

We full cleared in alt raid so i can actually buy jastor in 2 weeks

Pretty damn noice

[tulip depot]

Guys i made a plater mod that changes color of the nameplate based on if the mob has moonfire on or not

but i also would like to keep the "kickable" mobs their color, aka not change it based on if it has moonfire or not

anyone ever did this or knows how to ? :) thanks

[lucid olive]

You can change the color of the name of the mob instead of the whole nameplate

For me when a mob has no dots their name is white, 1 dot green and 2 dots blue, but still can change the color of the nameplate based on what type of mob it is

[amber solar]

Mmmmm is it normal that infinite star is not procing at all ?

[sudden flame]

[livid jay]

very mature pronouns brother

[fossil hemlock]

I tried proccing it on a dummy and it just wouldn't

[amber solar]

i mean they looking for that asking for my pronouns

[amber solar]

is it buged ?

[sudden flame]

well echoing void is

[fossil hemlock]

It procced when I went into a dungeon so probably not

[amber solar]

aaaaa so dosnt work on dummy probably

[fossil hemlock]

Wow you're definitely a great person

Holy

[sudden flame]

i dont think its a massive leap to say infinite stars could be bugged aswell

[livid jay]

just gonna report you and see what discord admins think about that

[amber solar]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[fossil hemlock]

Grow up

[amber solar]

thanks man u made my day

[livid jay]

no problem

keep compensating your intellectual deficit with whatever moral highground you think u have

[amber solar]

oh my god you have too much time in your life

have a good day

[livid jay]

[amber solar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/469316956412051476/1031949725777281114/attachment.gif

[pallid bay]

Couillon je suis patriote et non raciste!

[amber solar]

OUI MON FRERE

[vital hound]

didnt his team just lose the freest election of their lives

[pallid bay]

[severe hollow]

Somehow I doubt his claim

[royal zenith]

Sprout alert

content Pog

[vital hound]

racism pog

[hollow mist]

hmm.

[pallid bay]

vive la France!

[cloud plover]

oh no..

[plush prairie]

Are we able to buy horrific visions helmet enchant yet or not

idk how this event even works

[cloud plover]

lesser one yes

[sudden flame]

whats the difference?

between lesser and greater

[cloud plover]

lesser gives less benefit than greater

(duh)

[royal zenith]

how do you even get the greater

I know nothing of this eenchant

[cloud plover]

you dont (atm)

afterwards they have quests to unlock it

[royal zenith]

timegated pog

[cloud plover]

[plush prairie]

Do we have any idea on the time?

[cloud plover]

until bliz feels like enabling the quest

(aka no idea)

[plush prairie]

Fairs, is it worth buying the lesser one, or is it best to just save

[cloud plover]

u want dmg increase or not

[craggy sonnet]

seems like people are not really short on the currency to buy

[cloud plover]

its very ez to farm so nobody rly bothers much to wait

[livid jay]

timegating the timegated recycled content

[crisp basin]

does anyone know which helm enchant we need

for the new visions

[livid jay]

real blizzard speciality

[plush prairie]

fairs

[plush prairie]

fairs, thanks

I have never experienced this thing before

[crisp basin]

are we going for the stat one orrr

[plush prairie]

according to wowhead

[crisp basin]

yeah thought so

[plush prairie]

Idk how to even do these visions, i've ran in killed the first boss like 3x now is that what we are meant to do?

[vital mist]

how do you unlock the greater?

[fossil hemlock]

You don't have to buy, you do a quest to unlock and you get a free one from the quest too

[fossil hemlock]

No, do the quest

You have to complete side areas to get the thing you need 8 of

So you need to do 8 side areas

You can do 1 area over 8 different attempts, or 4 areas over 2 different attempts. Or anything in-between

[plush prairie]

ah gotcha ty

[plucky wadi]

lmao how is echoing void dmg loss compared to no corruption

[fossil hemlock]

You're not in range for it to hit

So it's just sim variance

[jade flume]

How much time does it take to get the enshant for head

[delicate perch]

not long

if you did bfa visions even less time

[lament kite]

like. an hour

[jade flume]

Why lol

[delicate perch]

cause they're the excact same

[jade flume]

Sounds good

[delicate perch]

so you just speed run em

[jade flume]

I dont remember what i did yesterday u think i remember heckin visions from 8 years ago

I only know there were tentacles

[quiet drift]

😳

[covert rock]

is there some guide to see what corruptions are good?

ive just seen that void ritual is supposed to be the best?

[lucid olive]

ew

[slim elk]

ew

[lament kite]

very relateable. but i gotta say a lot of the knowledge within me came back quickly. esp. the feeling of immanent dread at the beginning because of that sanity bar ticking down 😄

[lucid olive]

type distance=5 in the expert mode footer in top gear to make sim stand in melee and it will sim better

[pallid bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921048441604436008/1367592670125621258/image.png?ex=682edaad&is=682d892d&hm=4601a1f2df1f515373fb31671654572983db3e920959b4cf7bac51db9b24d6f9&

[lucid olive]

might sim on par with the best options, but don't think it's worth playing since it requires you to stand in melee

[worthy pendant]

Bro tell me we aint doing void ritual

[lucid olive]

that looks sick what is it

[craggy sonnet]

cloth set probably

[jade flume]

I feel dread as soon as i start thinking about bfa tbh

[lucid olive]

bring back shadowlands

[pallid bay]

some datamined banshee set

[royal zenith]

banshee set is epic

too bad I will never get it

unless I can buy it

[lucid olive]

if it's datamined and not out yet chances are its either shop or trading post

[rose aspen]

guys do i login for visions or do we not use it this week ?

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-login-loginwow-login-meme-gif-12215928468343350012

[wintry furnace]

can someone explain this WA exactly?
if the cd is isnt there or falls off before pulling, does that mean i dont need to swap? for the bug with control the dream

[pallid bay]

if it shows up, click on it

[wintry furnace]

ty

[soft jungle]

Is it possible for Boomies to get "The Even More Horrific Vision of Stormwind" this week?

To get the first mask

[still iris]

yea, super easy to do

did it on the 2nd try after unlocking the 10% reduced sanity loss

[weary berry]

anyone know what addon is showing these blue bars

[livid jay]

its no addon

its blizzard new shiny cooldown manager or whatever they call it

[weary berry]

howe do i turn it off

[livid jay]

settings

[weary berry]

don't think it's the cd manager

[livid jay]

i've never had it on so dont really know i thought thats what it looks like

[weary berry]

i think it was some addon i had, just disabled out of date addons and it went away

figured it out, it's quartz

[livid jay]

whats that?

[weary berry]

an addon

replaces default casting bar and a bunch of other stuff

[livid jay]

ahh i see

[vital hound]

[royal zenith]

nice ring for when the tier is dead @vital hound

congrats

[vital hound]

thats a neck

ediot

[royal zenith]

neck *

you will make perfect use of it

while we get 18% more buffs from renown and enchants/belt

VERY epic loot

congrats!!

[vital hound]

genuinely

whats your fucking problem duex

[royal zenith]

tuned into #balance

saw you

had to make a remark...

[marsh bear]

what is the borrowing corruption for balance?

[royal zenith]

have you read the pins

[lucid olive]

easy yoink

[vital hound]

YOINK

i got this

won the neck as well

shits coming together gambo

[royal zenith]

gambo..

[jagged prairie]

hello . is the new belt good? or just pick a 684 belt from vault?

[scarlet tapir]

ur supposed to do the side shit

[minor condor]

how tf does this make sense
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kcfJucpxRRJt1VViVEGEyj
mythic jastor lower dps than HC?

[pallid bay]

your current head has corruption enchant

the one you're simming dosnt

[minor condor]

I see yeah

how did i sim this 1 week ago tho? like 100k higher

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p1jN3vfexxBQpjQdcsyKUD

[pallid bay]

keep em coming

[minor condor]

Ahhhh thanks im stupid xd

[pallid bay]

🫡

[minor condor]

was wondering why my sim was so low xd

my talents fucked around a bit after doing corruptions, thanks OI

[weary drum]

do i trust this sim and take this strange weapon out of my vault? 😄
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/og6B2ESWPv8bH8AaYfVonU

[livid jay]

LMAO

no

[sudden flame]

5 target 5 min patchwerk

[livid jay]

who told u to sim 5 targets

[pallid bay]

what even is this

oh its crit proc

[livid jay]

if u want to sim m+, click the dreamgrove compendium guide pinned to this channel and go to the FAQ. There is an explanation on what to do/not do

[weary berry]

i heard something about cancelling the starlord buff, when should we do this?

[livid jay]

also in the dreamgrove guide

[elder remnant]

the last time i'm doing gamba strat on stix

D:

[iron chasm]

is it quartz

[livid jay]

whats gamba strat

[livid jay]

it was

[iron chasm]

oh whoops wrong person anyway

LOL

[warm gulch]

[iron chasm]

HES FUCKING HUGE

[craggy sonnet]

Prolly no taunt? Idk

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/k3e4s89hsk4.gif

[craggy sonnet]

Has anyone simmed better without circlet in a high end setup?
Got fleshfused ring in vault and it's not currently.. gonna sim with some more stuff later

[weary berry]

tanks

[leaden birch]

radiant necromancers band for me at 684 sims .1% higher than circlet

[craggy sonnet]

Ah the vers one.. yea

Prolly not a big diff to fleshfused

[livid jay]

boomie friend simmed higher with fleshfused

only very slightly tho

[craggy sonnet]

Yea ofc

It's mostly looking at a sidegrade with stamina upside

[livid jay]

ya

[craggy sonnet]

But I don't necessarily want it to sim worse

[empty locust]

mythic signet sims worse than HOC heroic , thats interesting

[craggy sonnet]

Depends on the sim

There is some issue with 2min and EC, making it seem a bit worse

[craggy sonnet]

Is that friend big?

[empty locust]

u think its better mythic signet than HOC hc for m+ then ?

[craggy sonnet]

It's prolly a wash mostly

[empty locust]

well its 0.1% worse anyway ;p

[craggy sonnet]

Care to share your gear setup?

[livid jay]

wdym

[craggy sonnet]

Gear wise

[livid jay]

yea i asnwered to the sim link above

but that sim was while gearing last week

[craggy sonnet]

Since circlet scales with stats from other slots etc

[livid jay]

but he was almost done wiht that sim

[weary berry]

yo how cooked am i if i started playing again 2 days ago

is it possible to gear

and push title

[craggy sonnet]

Ah, sorry missed that

[craggy sonnet]

Sure

Depends what your gearing sources are gonna be

Dinars + crafting are gonna go a long way

[weary berry]

Gearing source will be cranking keys

i reckon

I accidentally cashed in a best in slots heroic

Don't have access to mythic raids either

So

A bit fuced

[leaden birch]

nvm I just changed weapons last night after raid

and now radiant necros is a dps loss

I'm simming embellishments and it's telling me 1 dusk 1 lens is the most dps by .1%

[fossil hemlock]

Sim variance

[craggy sonnet]

Big variance gaming

But also lens doesn't scale with targets

[leaden birch]

whats that even mean sim variance

[craggy sonnet]

Too right in the sim

It's telling you what the uncertainty is for the displayed number

[covert rock]

is it worth to sim m+ extra or is it mostly the same result gear wise as 1t5min patchwerk?

[craggy sonnet]

Based on # if iterations

[leaden birch]

so is it better to just go dusk

[craggy sonnet]

You can run an mdt sim but it's likely not gonna change much

The only thing to consider is stuff that doesn't scale with target count

Like this dusk thread vs lens thing

[covert rock]

idk if i did something wrong because my result is 1,3 mil with 673 ilvl xD

[craggy sonnet]

I'd say so. You can just run a multi target sim to get a feel for it

[craggy sonnet]

Idk what you are simming either

[covert rock]

i just simmed a +14 rookery pretty standard route

[leaden birch]

if I do top gear, radiant band is a dps loss, droptimizer says it's an upgrade though

actually wait

[craggy sonnet]

No idea. Not too big into mdt sims myself

[leaden birch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sLCDaewUjhdzLFSVoP3ZG5

here

[craggy sonnet]

Hmm, yea. I wonder if it's mostly the neck diff

I'll play around with my setup later

[craggy sonnet]

Since that is a decent chunk less mastery

[slow zealot]

Could someone please confirm void ritual is working as intended for boomies?

[covert rock]

wait, we are supposed to get a 7th spark this week? i dont have a shard for spark left 🤔

[silk hill]

if i wanna play all 4 specs in m+ and raids without swapping the corruption too much void ritual would probably be the best right?

[modern cradle]

this represents how I feel having to use this stupid 658 ring over my 681/684 rings

[midnight bay]

the helm enchant if void ritual right?

for boomie

[hard hull]

someone know the infinite stars enchant get buffed by the mastery stat ?

[balmy light]

what do i take

[leaden birch]

damn, I have to swap my crafts to haste/vers

[livid jay]

pins

[modern cradle]

void ritual i think

you can rebuy them for 500 memories

so it snot a permanent choice

[hard hull]

nice thx

[balmy light]

ty, ill sim

[celest narwhal]

Atleast you can get those rings. I’m literally fucking stuck with 4 hero Track pieces because I CANNOT get my trinkets I need after 11 weeks and vault has been bad 4 weeks in a row now.

[hard hull]

at ilvl 679 and the greater ones looks balanced 😄

its singletarget

[livid jay]

i also have like every trinket in the game but only on hero track xD

[celest narwhal]

Yeah I wish.

Game is pissing me off so much anymore

I’m barely playing

[livid jay]

same im the definition of a raidlogger

[jade flume]

The best way to play the game

[leaden birch]

im rocking hero trinks + rings and I'm zugging in raid

my prog parses are fine, doubt it's the gear holding me back lol

[livid jay]

yea dont need gear to crank in raid just need hands and a good killtime and some rng

[leaden birch]

we just got sprocket down last night

[livid jay]

gz

[leaden birch]

our first kill and one of our guys hit the ready check at the start and then went afk

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[leaden birch]

clearly it was all a lack of IQ and not gear

[livid jay]

maybe good he did that if hes an ape 😛

[scarlet tapir]

wait

everyone has nitro

oh hell yea

[olive tangle]

Heya, what do you guiys think about playing with mechagon staff instead of craft+ascension ? sims higher, trying to see if it conflicts too much with signet but so far don't think so, i maccroed it with fury of elune

[orchid ember]

that staff is really only good for arcane mage

[lucid olive]

What are you simming it against

Like what's the other weapon

[olive tangle]

craft+asc

[lucid olive]

Sus

Link sim

Cool Link pfp btw I vibe with it

[olive tangle]

ran a quick dungeon sim to estimate the delta
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uG2JoRyzzhdVBLorKfVaxw

[lucid olive]

Yeah don't use d slice

[quasi dew]

if im not running mythic raid on my boomy, i should just buy myth track signet and carved blazikon wax right? a bit troll to spend dinars on jug/hoc when they're only hero track. already have jastors btw

[lucid olive]

You should respect the yellow warning sign that say dungeon slice is not supported

[olive tangle]

not trying to get accurate numbers, just estimate delta between setups

[lucid olive]

It's not supported so that doesn't make a difference

If you just want an estimate then do a default 1 target 5 minute patchwerk

Simming moonkin on d slice is like using a lawn mower to dice onion

Like the onion will be shredded but it'll be all over your lawn and you can't use it for anything

[olive tangle]

patchwork sims otherwise idd

[lucid olive]

Sure

[olive tangle]

this staff too odd to use

[quasi dew]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eSqaf8ubFKRnrKd6kmPXwL my gear is absolute ass but it just seems like even if i have myth track wax and signet i'd still use hero jug over it? the sim could be wonky cuz my gear being bad

[cloud plover]

use deez

[leaden birch]

[lucid olive]

Yes the staff is bad

[leaden birch]

usually he's really good too

[lime blade]

Jug is a good trinket indeed

[lucid olive]

Hero jug is good

[cloud plover]

you could've said your gear is terrible. missed a pun

[quasi dew]

STOP!!!!!!!!!! I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE!!!!!

[cloud plover]

sorry, that must have been terrible to say

[quasi dew]

[royal zenith]

who ever invited you puppy

[cloud plover]

naturally, I am terribly sorry

[royal zenith]

need to talk to said person

[cloud plover]

@hollow mist

[fossil shard]

That checks out

[royal zenith]

true

[quasi dew]

i mean i simmed with everything fully upgraded to max and it still seems like i use hero jug over myth candle/signet

[cloud plover]

it's not terrible

[quasi dew]

so just seems like the jug is the purchase here

[digital berry]

Yeah jug is really really good

I’d also wear heroic hoc over mythic signet any day

[quasi dew]

well i dont have that but i have a hero signet

i have a legit

war crime combo of trinkets right now

this is what ive been bringing into keys

[digital berry]

Straight to jail

[quasi dew]

its fine i managed to time all 12s

and now i can buy my jug

and then trinket combo is better

but jug seems like its not replaced. guess i buy jug and run it with signet until i manage to get my hands on hoc

and then run hoc and jug

[digital berry]

Sounds like a sensible choice

[quasi dew]

[cloud plover]

reasonable decision making in balance discord?

[quasi dew]

now. is crafting gloves a reasonable decision.

[digital berry]

You’re not even one of us

[digital berry]

It’s a decision I’ve made myself

[cloud plover]

I geared one up to like 665 pre turbo okay

[mighty mica]

unheard of

[cloud plover]

I also have one in 620 but nobody wants to give it 10s

[quasi dew]

wow. thank you lebron james. i will follow in your steps

[cloud plover]

so it is just staying right there

[digital berry]

Can’t say I’ve ever been called LeBron James in my life

[hollow mist]

I have no association with this puppy disregard anything it says

[cloud plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295834495295160372/1335633352161628170/jumpy_jumpy_thingy.gif

hey u need this to speak

try again

[quasi dew]

happy to be 1st

[hollow mist]

AYOOO

goated

[scarlet tapir]

what about me

do u associate

[hollow mist]

ofc sweetheart

[maiden pasture]

alright gamers how fast can moonkin clear visions

time to slam some

need bis build for visions

[lucid olive]

It's like world quest difficulty

I hadn't read anything and no clue what was going on and I finished in under an hour..

[maiden pasture]

i wanna et the full masks things tho

so i can gear all my alts

with warbound gear

[elder remnant]

I’m so glad I didn’t raid early tier

[peak chasm]

Well my guild is making me swap to boomie for OAB from rogue. Any quick advice

[elder remnant]

I’m having so much fun on Boomie rn

[quiet drift]

Press Starfall

[peak chasm]

Is it worthwhile to hold trees for first add set to get moonfires out?

[lucid olive]

Depends what points in the fight your guild needs dam on tbh

Also your timers on the fight depends a little on your trinket

[peak chasm]

Just add sets in general

Priory

[lucid olive]

Yeah with 2m I'd just use on add sets I guess

[cerulean summit]

I have a friend telling me that he saw a vod of a group hitting 100m dps, that isn't possible right???

[lucid olive]

With HoC I usually send on pull, then treant+CA on 2nd adds and full CDs on the cc immune fixate adds after that

[peak chasm]

Gotcha thanks for the help

[lofty depot]

Does he mean 1 person and that person being a udk

[cerulean summit]

1 person

[elder remnant]

Top log is just 2T cleaving the melee add off the boss with starfire

[cerulean summit]

apparently an ele and a dk

[elder remnant]

Not ethical swapping to ranged add

[lofty depot]

Probably doing cool udk bug

[elder remnant]

Wdym

[lofty depot]

I will not explain

[elder remnant]

[digital berry]

Been having fun on boomie since day 1

[merry ibex]

Hey guys 🙂

I have a question about cd use that I didn't find the answer to on the dreamgrove website.

If you are running

• The raid KOTG build with the usual "double CDR" hero talents, control of the dream as well as -15sec on treants
• House of cards
• Convoke

Do you:

• Hold the 3rd treant use for Convoke + HoC, or
• Send 3rd treants immediately and then hold Convoke + HoC until 4th treant use comes up? Approx 12 sec of waiting after Convoke + HoC comes back up, in this scenario

Most people on WClogs that I can see are doing the 1st option: holding 3rd treants for Convoke + HoC. Curious about your opinions.

[ancient adder]

Normally yes

[lofty depot]

3rd trees doesn't get held

[ancient adder]

It depends on fight

[lofty depot]

Send at 115. Send tree/CA/convoke at 2m-205

[ancient adder]

^

But also if you need to send insta

[merry ibex]

If I do 1st trees with ca + convoke, 2nd trees with ca and 3rd trees immediately, i have to hold 2nd convoke for ~12 sec until 4th trees become ready

[ancient adder]

Dam amp, lust, etc

[merry ibex]

Am I misunderstanding something?

[lofty depot]

There are fights where it's being held

[ancient adder]

Control the dream makes up for it

[lofty depot]

Yes and that 12 seconds doesn't actually matter

Cuz ur holding that convoke til 430 regardless

[merry ibex]

Ok

Tyvm 🙂

[lofty depot]

The general idea is how many trees can u get, and when do they line up

[ancient adder]

I pretty much always send trees on cd and mess around with the 2nd ca timing

[lofty depot]

Some fights like OAB u want trees up for add sets

Rika, ur holding 3rd trees cuz there's an intermission and u can send ur CA convoke trees before said intermission

[merry ibex]

What would you do on mugzee? I see most top logs with HoC on mugzee are holding 3rd trees for 2nd convoke

[lofty depot]

And then have ur CDs ticking down while ur afk for 30 seconds

[ancient adder]

What strat are guild progging mugzee with

[lofty depot]

Depends if ur a goal doer

[ancient adder]

4 min or 5 min push

[eager raft]

4

[lofty depot]

And depends if ur holding at 330 or not

[merry ibex]

I'm in the 2nd jail set

[ancient adder]

Tragic

[modern cradle]

can someone explain to me how to catchup rep for the raid buuff? am I missing something or can we only clear raid once per week for a cap of 5k rep? if we just started, getting to renown 14 rep would take 7 weeks or something?

[leaden birch]

you can get 2 renown per week

1 if you are caught up

[lofty depot]

So either send trees and see if it lines up when u push

Or hold it til the push is called

[modern cradle]

yea but if you just started on a toon that would still take 7 weeks to catch up, thats not really a catchup mechanic lol. tier will end by the time i get to renown 14

[leaden birch]

[merry ibex]

Ok I'll try some things out when we raid tomorrow

thank you both

[lofty depot]

Yeet

[leaden birch]

I mean

maybe they'll make it easier to catch up later?

[modern cradle]

theres like 7 weeks left of raid lol, later is gonna be too late

[lofty depot]

Wrong

Theres like 12

11.7 isn't even out yet, which is then another 8 week cycle before patch

11.2 in August bud

[modern cradle]

I’m not you bud pal.

Jk makes sense just came back didn’t realize 11.1.7 was a thing

[round field]

Why

[lucid olive]

his guild trusts him with mechanics probably

you don't know what that's like do you iqni..

[lofty depot]

That's crazy

Lol, our original plan was to bring 3-4 mages on gally

We're now bringing 2 likely

[eager raft]

bring as many as you can and make them all play fire. Trivializes the bombs using specs that can’t die

[round field]

Staying outside of cage is harder than being in...

[lofty depot]

Blud thinks they can't die

Do I have some logs to show u

Also, they just stand in dumb spot

[round field]

Skill issue

[lofty depot]

Specifically yes

Make warlock hold

They don't die

[lucid olive]

wtf are u doing outside

[round field]

Hit boss?

[lucid olive]

go into fire and run behind a wall??

[ionic oak]

Nothing. Holding dps

Skate a lil bit before dipping in fire

[lucid olive]

standing outside during 2nd jails

[ionic oak]

Lol i was off helaing like a mofo

Regrowth to everyone

Cant dps

[dry compass]

Warlock is defs not tankier than mage

This is some mage-player propaganda

[lofty depot]

Lol

[maiden pasture]

whats the fastest weekly key

[dry compass]

Rookery

[lofty depot]

I haven't pressed a defensive ever

[ionic oak]

Rookery

[lofty depot]

Idk how people die as mage

[ionic oak]

They blink into middle of gally

Hole

Jk thats me with the disengage

[lofty depot]

I barely alter for damage spots

[lucid olive]

cap

[lofty depot]

It's not even needing a button I'm just tankier than druid

[eager raft]

dfc

rookery and dfc about the same

[lofty depot]

A key with respectable. U walk in, wipe, leave key

[feral carbon]

any good vision upgread ?

[lofty depot]

Probably the enchant

[feral carbon]

infinity stars?

[lofty depot]

Sim it?

[feral carbon]

how?

[lofty depot]

Raidbots probably

[eager raft]

I’ve never done a key with you that I didn’t omega gap you in

[lofty depot]

Factually inaccurate

And if it was, I was afk fucking ur mom

[dry compass]

Time for damage taken sims

[lofty depot]

Red circle bomb thing doesn't even proc caut anymore

Too much HP ;/

[digital berry]

Lowkey don’t understand gally laser circle, there’s like no way to not overlap with other people no?

Unless they want me to literally stop dps and walk around in which case there’s no point in milking it and not interrupting insta

[tight zephyr]

What trinket would you combine House of Cards HC with? Mugzee HC or Priory Myth track (also activate)

[digital berry]

Jug

[lofty depot]

U = 19 other people

[digital berry]

I do more dmg

[eager raft]

just minimize ur overlapping

[lofty depot]

Me fire mage, we insta cast

[eager raft]

Like you said it’s pretty unavoidable

[lofty depot]

Me run around

[eager raft]

But just do it as little as possible

[lofty depot]

U silly boomkin, u no cast

[digital berry]

Yeah like I try to be cognizant of the overlaps but if I’m casting a wrath and the melee decide to stand in line with me I’m not gonna cancel casts

They can move they got the insta casts

[eager raft]

just keep in mind damage literally doesn’t matter in the slightest

[ionic oak]

Its the principal

[eager raft]

you’re gonna break the shield whether you have 100% uptime or 50%

[lucid olive]

nah me and shadow priest next to me both know that we're gonna overlap

[digital berry]

I’m also afraid ima be called out soon for not baiting frontal but I’m soaking far and if the bait is based off of number of people not random I should never bait it on myself and grief no?

[lucid olive]

its baited on the largest number of people it can hit

so if theres like

5 melee standing inside his hitbox

and 2 people standing further away

it can get baited that way

[shut panther]

just deny and tell your raid leader to stuff it

[digital berry]

In all our pulls that has never happened thankfully, the first time I grief by not baiting frontal I’m gonna perma stay melee

[digital berry]

They got streams and analyze pulls after raid

[shut panther]

nerds

[lucid olive]

you should definitely be baiting but sometimes you can't and its not the biggest deal

[digital berry]

There’s just one bait that I avoid doing, the one that comes out right after the soak that id need to sprint like a madman to even reach, and like 9 times out of 10 when I actually tried to do the bait I got there as it had already happened anyway

[karmic root]

is it worth sending foe before eclipse if you have to moonfire a lot of targets as moonfire also reduces cdr?

[lofty depot]

Yea that doesn't matter

Melee get baited on

[lofty depot]

If ur not going into eclipse for the whole duration no

[digital berry]

The only bait that actually is scuffed if people are scattered around is the last one of p1

[karmic root]

wdym?

[lofty depot]

Idk how I can be any more clear

Also, comes down to if ur not cding

[lucid olive]

this discord plugin that logs people editing their messages is so cursed man..

[lofty depot]

?

[lucid olive]

struggled

[lofty depot]

Jeez

[shut panther]

why would you have such an addon

[digital berry]

I stay misspelling shit and autocorrecting into Italian so sometimes I straight up have to edit 6 times

[celest narwhal]

Gear isn’t holding me back either. It’s just annoying seeing everyone else at 680 ilvl and I won’t break 675. Just by shit luck

[digital berry]

Catch people slipping

[shut panther]

are you randall from recess

[hard wyvern]

Me when I made a minor spelling mitsake (everyone will understand me anyways but I will edit my post to save face. I never do anything wrong)

[lofty depot]

Week 500 and not 680 is tough

[leaden birch]

what pieces are you missing?

[lucid olive]

do you guys right click the message and clicking edit or do you arrow up

[leaden birch]

arrow up

[lucid olive]

champ

[digital berry]

Im on mobile 90% of the time

[mighty mica]

double click

[lofty depot]

Well on mobile I have to hold and press

[leaden birch]

I also rock a 60% kb so my arrow keys are macro'd in to be like a VIM setup

[hard wyvern]

I don’t edit my messages I always do them right the first time.

[leaden birch]

[eager raft]

wild charge!!!!!!!!!!! Don’t be lazy!!!!!!!! Do the mechanics!!!!!!!!

[lucid olive]

yeah i need to get rid of this plugin lmao

[hard wyvern]

For what reason?

[lucid olive]

i got it cause i was ghost pinged in feral

[digital berry]

In the far soak I’d have to wild charge + roar probably to make it in time and I’d barely make it so

[lucid olive]

[shut panther]

hi

[digital berry]

True

[eager raft]

Gamz is cool

[lyric crypt]

Is Eye of Kezan not really recommended for M+? Nobody plays with it

[lucid olive]

moxie jug better

[digital berry]

People do play with it but jug is better and you don’t have to sweat to play around it

[midnight bough]

Is there any reason to push past the quest that gives you head enchant?

[mighty mica]

[lucid olive]

fun

[digital berry]

Farm up in preparation for next week or mog

[eager raft]

ever heard the saying if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all

please consider that

[mighty mica]

i have heard of it

but i don't always practice it

[shut panther]

based

[eager raft]

when it comes to me you never do!

[mighty mica]

correct

[eager raft]

WHY

[lyric crypt]

Thanks, what do you think is the best combo between Priory Mythic, Blazikon Mythic & Kezan Heroic?

[mighty mica]

🪞

[lofty depot]

That's for people that have bad self esteem

They cry cuz their feels got hurt

[midnight bough]

What is the prep for next week step? I only filled out the top row in the visions talent tree can it be filled out more this wwek?

[dense steeple]

Signed and blazikon for sure

[digital berry]

That’s for a sim to tell you idk I’m not a beep beep bop computer

[lofty depot]

No

[dense steeple]

No, but the greater enchants are mexy week you'll need mementos for

[digital berry]

You can bank up some mementos for future upgrades

[eager raft]

one sided beef

[digital berry]

And the other currency blood shit

[eager raft]

I have nothing but kind things to say about you

[lyric crypt]

I feel like Kezan is a trap to sim because of stacks

[eager raft]

U can change fight duration in sim 🙂

[midnight bough]

Ohh. I guess idk what is required to buy the greater enchant sounds like if you get a bunch then next week just buy it ez

[viral yoke]

Hello everyone.
A question, even for M+ is it better to always sim ST, patchwerk 5min?

[digital berry]

Hmm

[lucid olive]

yes

[lofty depot]

Gonna frame that reaponse

[viral yoke]

ty

[lofty depot]

MDT down bad

[eager raft]

hahahaha I read this and my first thought was “that sounds like something I would say”

[digital berry]

I went on a scavenger hunt to find that

[mighty mica]

lmaooo

[eager raft]

Probably had to sift through dozens of very kind and respectful messages to find it

[digital berry]

Actually true

Very brown nosey

[karmic root]

is it possible to macro combat pot into incarn?

[digital berry]

Yeah ofc

/use line for pots

[crisp crater]

anyone know for some reason hoc 671 doesn't out sim my Signet 684 anymore ?

last week hoc 671 on sims was 1.5% - 2% upgrade for me now its downgrade

[lofty depot]

Show sim

[crisp crater]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7oEGqaSD21ov5NqxAVZNk8

[craggy sonnet]

no way it should have been that huge of a diff

unless signet gave you something else than mastery at the time

8T4min

thats a new one

[crisp crater]

but it used to be upgrade like big upgrade untill today

nah i am just trying all sims

just tell me what u think is the best and i'll do it

did like multi timers/ bosses

[craggy sonnet]

i think for most people its very very close

signet is maybe slightly undersimming due to APL limitations for EC

[crisp crater]

do u have any sim plan so i try it

[craggy sonnet]

but its really close

there is no way H HoC should have been a 2% upg over M Signet unless it gave you another stat

as i said

[lucid olive]

use top gear

[crisp crater]

into how many targets? mins

[lucid olive]

1 target 5 minute

that part's irrelevant

just gear compare = bad

top gear = good

can add items into top gear with the "item search" box

[crisp crater]

yeah did that already

[lucid olive]

and its just a lot easier to set up and sim all the options

[crisp crater]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1rivzQDubipAPUPhWNJMpm

maybe cuz it gives me mastery ?

[lofty depot]

Well that doesn't say it's a down grade

[crisp crater]

it used to be insta upgrade untill today

[lucid olive]

Priory is also not simming optimally

[craggy sonnet]

then click the little button top right

[lucid olive]

so you can add like another .5% to priory probably

[craggy sonnet]

and send the sim it was showing as huge upg

[lucid olive]

and yeah you can just send the old sim where its a big uppie

[craggy sonnet]

also interesting that you are running stormriders fury ench

multi spec?

but that could also flip your signet to haste i assume

prolly not a big deal tho

[crisp crater]

yeah actually did that enchant yday before i craft the ring cuz i was below 12 k haste

[lucid olive]

deadge

your sim is proccing mastery on priory btw

but in your previous sim were you using different talents

[crisp crater]

yeah tried to use signet now like 5-6x times it procs mastery

[lucid olive]

link your previous sim where it was different

[crisp crater]

i can't find it like went all the way down

[lucid olive]

dreamt it then

gg

[crisp crater]

i was waiting for the trinket almost 5 weeks now and when it did drop it showes equal to downgrade so not sure

[digital berry]

Those target numbers are a roller coaster

[crisp crater]

maybe cuz of the gear change happend during this weeks

[lucid olive]

priory is still better than hoc in that sim so its not a big deal

Priory is not being used optimally

if you want a more accurate representation then sim KOTG talents

[digital berry]

Priory and hoc are also wildly up to preference at this point

[craggy sonnet]

well, they were looking forward to h hoc being way better than priory

not the other way around

[lucid olive]

gg

[digital berry]

Curb your expectations

[crisp crater]

the aoe one ?

[lucid olive]

sure

can sim EC with convoke too and the APL will probably use trinkets correct

it just doesn't when its EC with Incarn

[celest narwhal]

Ring bc I have champion track JASTER bc they didn’t add 2 more lvl tracks to champion. Helm,chest, trinkets, which idc if they are hero but they aren’t even the raid ones still.

I’v not missed bosses on heroic except week 1/2

[digital berry]

Well heroic bosses don’t drop myth track gear

[lucid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-really-unimpressed-meh-blank-gif-16830727188654187780

[celest narwhal]

Well I am in prog so I can’t reclear!

[digital berry]

[celest narwhal]

But vault had been shit half the tier I’ve taken 4 sockets

And 2 rando trinkets

[digital berry]

Yeah same I’ve taken so many sockets this tier

[lilac citrus]

we get void ritual right ?

[scenic relic]

Which horrfic vision enchant do we take?

[digital berry]

Check pins

[lucid olive]

void ritual

[lofty depot]

Infinite stars

[digital berry]

[crisp crater]

dunno nothing works doesn't show by any chance its an upgrade

i mean its m+ char

[ionic oak]

Twilight devastation! Was fun

[lucid olive]

yeah priory better

[lofty depot]

So was "Your Mom"

[crisp crater]

cuz i got bis + jastor during this 2 weeks that might change it all

[ionic oak]

Are you my daddy?

[lofty depot]

No

[ionic oak]

Thank god

[lucid olive]

thought it was m+ character how do you have best in slots

[celest narwhal]

Don’t.

[cloud plover]

did someone say

[gentle patio]

Where are the crystals in visions

[lofty depot]

He thought heroic was good

[cloud plover]

bfa infinite stars

[ionic oak]

If arctic says infinite stars. Then im going infinite stars

[crisp crater]

its a m+ push char so i don't play keeper etc i just want bis for m+

[lofty depot]

I'm a mage

[lucid olive]

yeah but have you killed mythic bandit