balance

[digital berry]

You can select “max all selected” and it maxes by dps

[vernal thistle]

its crazy how much a HC jastor outsim a myth trach footbomb ring

[digital berry]

This is telling you jug is better tho

[viral mirage]

oh right forgot about that, thank you !

[vernal thistle]

ik, thats what I meant, because guide says get myth m+ if u dont have myth raid trinkets

[digital berry]

What guide ?

[vernal thistle]

the one from tettles

[lucid olive]

use dreamgrove guide

[pallid bay]

isnt your list silly

why is jastor 4th

[digital berry]

It’s a list, not in order of importance

[vernal thistle]

dreamgrove assumes the trinkets are on the same ilvl

[pallid bay]

the pin literally dosnt say that

nice try though

[digital berry]

The pin doesn’t say the list is from best to worse either

[vernal thistle]

nvm then, overlooked that

[digital berry]

Usually when that’s the case people use tier words like S, A, B like the dg trinket list thing

[pallid bay]

you would be stupid not to assume a numbered list would go from most important to least or whatever you want to attribute to it

[lucid olive]

idk i just put that in order that i buy them tbh

[pallid bay]

if it wasnt numbered i'd agree

[digital berry]

You’re probably right, could be - not numbers

[pallid bay]

so its just random or what?

[lucid olive]

i didn't have any intention behind numbering them no

[pallid bay]

bad list

gg

[lucid olive]

can probably remove the numbers and do - instead

[pallid bay]

one would argue

buying the very rare item

makes more sense

than the 2 regular items

[lucid olive]

probably

[pallid bay]

isnt it just better anyway

[lucid olive]

idk i bought best-in-slots

[pallid bay]

same but i have them all

[lucid olive]

and most sims i saw from people asking had moxie jug above jastor

[digital berry]

I have 2/4 exodia

[lucid olive]

guess HoC is lower prio though

[digital berry]

Btw @delicate perch I got jug from our kill because I gave up on bis and now I have both, right course of action in hindsight

[pallid bay]

honestly my list would prob be
jastor
hoc
jug
bis

but thats based on feels

[lucid olive]

i think bis is better than that

[digital berry]

Bis was such a huge dps upgrade for me , even tho I didn’t have any of the 4

[pallid bay]

yeah but its double on-use

[digital berry]

Hardly an issue innit

[pallid bay]

correct

[river galleon]

Hello guys! I am lookin for weakaura or plater profile that changes color of nameplates if have both dots, one dot or 0 dots on the target. I can't find this one, but saw i think posted it here.

[lucid olive]

feel like the difference between crafted staff with ascension and bis with 2x duskthread is bigger than the difference between hero HoC/priory and myth HoC, but also just feels

[pallid bay]

but i dont want to think more while playing an unengaging spec

i will be playing with bis macrod to CA

[digital berry]

It was for me, even jug normal to jug mythic was lower dps upgrade

[digital berry]

1 use per boss let’s go

[digital berry]

Could use the search function in here

[wanton socket]

Question: Best is slots says that it has a chance to give you 4304 to 5260 of a random secondary stat and that on use it gives you instantly 5260 of your highest secondary stat, but when i get the buff the number is much lower, am i misunderstanding something?

[lucid olive]

idk this is with my gear now

675 crafted ring + circlet and hoc + hero kezan

if anything maybe its like 1. mug, 2. jazzy d, 3. bis, 4. hoc

but dont think any of that shit matters when the line above says sim your character

prob better to remove the numbers and specify that its not a shopping list in order

[lucid olive]

I just tested and my buff said 5260

are you sure you're reading the buff from the on-use and not one of the random buffs cause they can overlap

[wanton socket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1364796234128429177/1372988953082331277/image.png?ex=6828c71b&is=6827759b&hm=8b7fff9da59afb29cbd30748ecaaef03f5a52874fe60a72d74eaeea60de2e765&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1364796234128429177/1372989242804011160/image.png?ex=6828c760&is=682775e0&hm=a9018c56b531ded06d2dd87b205a75d707615504e8dd0860595cae30a72247e3&

[pallid bay]

dont buy hoc and feral lootspec vault..

[wide dawn]

I don’t think there is use on BIS its just use to change stats from Agility to Intellect and viseversa

[digital berry]

Huh ?

[wide dawn]

I already bought BIS

[digital berry]

HUH

[eager raft]

🤨 🤨

[drifting nova]

let him cook

[digital berry]

Read the item my friend

[wanton socket]

Now after a few tries it went to the correct number

[pallid bay]

what u huhing about

[digital berry]

I don’t understand the sentence, did you buy hoc before you opened vault ?

[pallid bay]

nono

you buy bis jastor jug

and open vault as feral for hoc

[wide dawn]

Ooh need to be in combat to use it fk

[digital berry]

No mythic vault for maybe a couple more weeks for me, surely gally dies soon

[wide dawn]

Was not using it all this time 😂

[orchid ember]

lol no way

[shy robin]

someone told me diamond is simming better than it's supposed to but I cant find any evidence elsewhere. did I get one guyed? should I just trust the sim?

[lofty depot]

Who was the someone that told u

[craggy sonnet]

always that guy

[shy robin]

some guy in a raid

[lofty depot]

Think we can use logic here

[shy robin]

everyone is just some guy

Just wanna know if its simming properly or not 🤷‍♂️

[lofty depot]

Yea, the difference is that person is highly regarded

[shy robin]

just as regarded as the people Im asking here for help

[lofty depot]

Welp I was gonna help u, then u called me regarded

Tragic

[shy robin]

?

[lofty depot]

?

The sim doesn't even give extra stats. So funny guy yapping

Is just a lot of mastery

And me like mastery

[shy robin]

alr cool ty

[eager raft]

this should be bannable

auto mod evasion should be a bannable offence

[lofty depot]

Ur part of that highly regarded brigade

[jolly delta]

wake up compendium development streaming session soon

[lofty depot]

When is soon

[jolly delta]

5m

[lofty depot]

Oh shit

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-punching-angry-mad-gif-24670332

[twin halo]

What are the best trinkets to run for keys and also raid. I keep looking around but they are always slightly different. I’m currently using jug and signet for both key and raid. Also not sure which to purchase with my chippies!

[lofty depot]

The differences are some people.have myth track of items and some dont

[final schooner]

Do we still use the sirens isle ring as balance

[sudden pawn]

ya

[final schooner]

now that it's almost 30 item levels lower

[lofty depot]

So if myth wax Sims higher than ur jug, then u would use that if u had ot

[final schooner]

they should rly start updating that ring :p

[sudden pawn]

nah

[lofty depot]

why do u not like DPS?

If they nerf the ring that means u do less dam

[final schooner]

Not nerf it

just increase the item lv or something

[sudden pawn]

they should buff other rings instead

[final schooner]

or that

[lofty depot]

U want them to increase the ilvl so u continue to wear it.

[sudden pawn]

[lofty depot]

That's bad ass take honestly

[gentle scroll]

I never want to stop wearing this ring

forever gear is good

[final schooner]

yeah forever gear :p

if we could go back to artifact ring / cape / weapon

[sudden pawn]

they should raise the ilvl of regular rings only and nno other gear by another 2 myth track levels

[jolly delta]

(its boring im fixing css)

[final schooner]

But they will remove the use for this ring in a patch or 2

[lofty depot]

Lies

[lofty depot]

fucking ehat

Stream on twitch u rat

[jolly delta]

ok

[lofty depot]

Oh badass, he gonna do it

I was expecting a no

[lucid olive]

tbh this not bad idea, should revitalize voice chat again

[mighty mica]

average arctic L

[lucid olive]

we should go into the super secret expert role voice channel vinter

[maiden pasture]

At my work we made a web service for our app and the geniused names it CSS and then told web developers about it and they got quite mad xd

[maiden pasture]

Ye I'm in here waiting for you

[jolly delta]

actually

[lofty depot]

Is that in the cyon cord or

[jolly delta]

thyme's right

was about to start but reconsidered

[lofty depot]

....

[mighty mica]

[lucid olive]

changed your mind when you read the chat surely

[jolly delta]

want to have gamz to scream at me to fix bugs

[lofty depot]

Gamz ain't gonna scream at u

[jolly delta]

also wanted streaming for ages and now that I have it I don't stream?

[lofty depot]

CraY

Just embed it into dreamgrove

Ez views

[eager raft]

@thyme

[mighty mica]

thanks i read it the first time

[lofty depot]

Remember

Disregard any and all res posts

[eager raft]

I’m just doing my part to keep the streets clean

[lofty depot]

Worry about your own house first rat

[lucid olive]

guys vinter stream is bussin woah

so interesting just a bunch of code !!

[dire pagoda]

When fungal growth procs how large is the area?

[lofty depot]

8yards me thinks

[dire pagoda]

ig mushroom proc is also 8 yards

[lofty depot]

Well ye it spawns a wild mushroom not some like like it's own

Fungal growth is the dot from mushroom

[formal crest]

He’s incapable of raising his voice

[lucid olive]

!?

[formal crest]

Hello yes good day

[scarlet tapir]

Auto mod evasion should be bannable...

[eager raft]

🗣️

can always trust twist to have my back

[scarlet tapir]

Thyme couldn't read the first nor the second

I think 3rd time is the charm

[mighty mica]

surely

[lofty depot]

Thyme is my body guard

[mighty mica]

#balance message

[lofty depot]

That's like a dad telling his son he's being stupid

Normal day

[scarlet tapir]

Not if ur a normal person

[lofty depot]

Says the evoker

[digital plaza]

yo hc house of cards and moxie jug sims better for me than signet and blazikon is this bait or am i doing something wrong?

[lofty depot]

Any of those combos can do that yes

If they're all heroic versions or a mix of both mythic and heroic

[digital plaza]

redid sim a bit and got blazikon and moxxie better now

[slim iris]

Close the yearbook

[formal crest]

Nerd

[swift ridge]

Is there a way to create a WA to track when your dots are about to expire on a target? (I do have it on the plater profile etc, just curious if there was an another way to help track it)

[lofty depot]

On a target or your target

[swift ridge]

my target

I imagine, if i have a audio reminder for 1 target, itll relatively apply to most targets

[lofty depot]

In ur target, just rip the dots from a pack

Like every pack has it

[swift ridge]

whoops i'm sorry... I mean create a WA with an audio queue**

[lofty depot]

U could add an audio but seems odd

[swift ridge]

thats my fault

yeah

[lofty depot]

Uhhh, actions tab

[swift ridge]

I seem to be a bit better with audio then visual in some cases, it's an extra reminder

[scarlet tapir]

bunch of yappa

[pallid bay]

@wicked shuttle i cant stream..

[lucid olive]

unfortunate

[pallid bay]

mod me..

[dry compass]

Oh no

The great streaming debate is back and now Oi on the wrong side of it

[severe hollow]

oh no

[tulip bay]

Let gilly stream 2025

[eager raft]

let us stream

Give us emote reacts

ban Arctic

[lofty depot]

Some of us can stream

[eager raft]

@lofty depot streamed gore to me in a voice channel when I asked him for coaching

[royal zenith]

heard respectable wanted to pay him for coaching

better ban him for rmt

[edgy brook]

Dear people who are way better at playing balance than me, Why oh why do my sims keep telling me 658 moxie/ myth prioty are better than 671 house of cards and literally anything else? Thanks ahead of time.

[eager raft]

priory and hoc are pretty interchangeable

[edgy brook]

but can I use them together? as long as I have them both a running asap?

[eager raft]

you technically could but it wouldn’t be very good

[lofty depot]

U can't use them together no

There's a 20s cd on use

[edgy brook]

ahhhhhh gotcha, much thanks.

[eager raft]

u wanna be using your cds all together as much as possible, so with double on use trinkets you’ll find yourself not having much of anything to press with the 2nd trinket

[slim iris]

Someone say stream ?

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-vince-mc-mahon-entrance-entry-strut-gif-4685176

[jolly delta]

streaming a +12 weekly

[lofty depot]

Gamz said "cya later my friend" awh

[slim iris]

I’ve reversed my stance

I was wrong and should not be allowed to stream

[shut trench]

fello boomies , i got a situation with low base mastery for some reason, im running 21800

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dFqKdXYz4MJP8JHZzbLVdw

[jolly delta]

He didnt want to be alone with you

[shut trench]

would it be a mistake to use mastery flask untill i find a solution?

[eager raft]

run quick sims with different flasks

To find out 🙂

[shut trench]

i did it tells me to stay the way i am

which is weird

almost all boomies have minimum of 24k mastery

[loud kettle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

What the, gifs are broken now?

[lofty depot]

Well I said I had to go, then he said that

[loud kettle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif?ex=682897be&is=6827463e&hm=272b932d4574ad28682d08a820d5f51a331b19df088e5195fe2e1dfebce6a04d&

gg

[mighty mica]

i think embeds just broke

[loud kettle]

I've been infected with the bad embed virus

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[mighty mica]

saw a spotify link not embed in another server

[lofty depot]

Sunes works but crazys doesn't thmm

[loud kettle]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jp6HWW4JEVTb3P25oe8-maviQh_JvyiNaWDBpXDOIq8/https/media.tenor.com/7NL8QR6JdZMAAAPo/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling.mp4

[lofty depot]

His dad works at discord

[loud kettle]

haha

[slim iris]

Joever

[pallid bay]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5NEKjqTQPKiqOiOG8YxLdS?si=2873b03d1ce74a2f

[loud kettle]

Well i posted the tom m+ stats gif

[pallid bay]

fuck

[royal zenith]

so many fails lol.....

[pallid bay]

its so over

[loud kettle]

Oi has been infected now

[pallid bay]

embed..

[royal zenith]

literally dont deserve streaming

[mighty mica]

oil

[royal zenith]

this way

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/common-rain-frog-frog-in-train-frog-looking-out-train-window-for-len-from-nic-cuz-we-couldnt-find-this-as-a-gif-alrdy-gif-3679557726432238120

[slim iris]

@mighty mica @royal zenith I was wrong guys

[mighty mica]

what else is new

but about what this time

[eager raft]

the reverse psychology approach

[loud kettle]

Thats unusual gilly, I view you as a paragon of truth

[royal zenith]

you also thought a blackhole had just a singularity in the middle?

[loud kettle]

You guys think black holes have a middle?

[royal zenith]

they're behind on lore..

[slim iris]

Everything

[eager raft]

I know what the inside of a black hole looks like

gatekeeping it tho

[slim iris]

It was all rage bait

Truly sorry

[loud kettle]

gg

[eager raft]

it was just bait you got baited

[royal zenith]

go back to feral or???

[lucid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-cats-cute-sandwich-gif-10022877714927620590

[tribal phoenix]

Hey I have a question regarding simming and Flarendo's Pilot light

Bloodmallet sims it very low, but it's A tier on compendium.

It makes sense to me that the sims can be wrong it it, because I guess it depends on the skill of the player how they line up mobs, correct?

Should i not rely on simming/blood mallet data for Trinkets like Flarendo's Pilot Light? Or does it still sim accurately?

[digital berry]

What exactly do you mean by redid sim a bit

[lucid olive]

Flarendo depends on your stats

it sims well if your character needs a lot of haste

[digital berry]

Never rely on blood mallet data

[lucid olive]

not a bad trinket

the profile bloodmallet is using has it sim less because of the stats on the profile's gear

[tribal phoenix]

Ah that makes sense

Ok thank you for the clarification

For RaidBots Sims, I should assume it will try to maximize it's value by lining up targets efficently? Or how does that work for trinkets like Flarendos where you need to line up mobs?

[digital berry]

Well considering that the most common sim people should do is patchwerk 1 target I doubt that’s a problem

[tribal phoenix]

Oh yeah good call - I'm looking at Bloodmallet "patchwork + 1 target" " +2 targets" "+3 targets". I'm just going to close out of this site and use Raidbots lol

[digital berry]

Bloodmallet is just a useless site. And Simming 2/3/4 target patchwork is silly

[tribal phoenix]

Good info. Thank you

[lofty depot]

Nuhuh

[digital berry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-madge-angry-angy-gif-12433487470922084221

[round field]

on god

emnithy is new kekkers

[digital berry]

How dare you

[lofty depot]

Regular kekkers, resto kekkers, what's emnithys version

[digital berry]

Who is resto kekkers ?

[lofty depot]

Clankz

[digital berry]

Also, what is a “Kekkers like”? What attributes does it have ?

[lofty depot]

Words that would get auto modded

[digital berry]

I take great offense in that

[eager raft]

king kekkers

[lofty depot]

Gotta be emo kekkers no?

[eager raft]

twink kekkers

[digital berry]

What about me screams emo

[digital berry]

Erm

Why do you have that

[lofty depot]

It's on ur twitch dork

[eager raft]

nah emnithy is cute

[digital berry]

Oh

[royal zenith]

dont be doing that with peoples irl's tho

dickhead arctic at it again

[lofty depot]

??

[digital berry]

Hey I’m hot idc

[lofty depot]

His pfp is his irl photo

[wintry copper]

Anyone know the DPS gain going from a 684 ilvl weapon to the BiS(bandit wpn) for Balance Druid? Curious about both st/aoe

[digital berry]

Let everyone know

[royal zenith]

show your picture here rn arctic

I will save it for future usage

cool?

[lofty depot]

I like the anonymity of me being ugly

[eager raft]

it’ll go straight into his spank bank

[royal zenith]

[digital berry]

I can tell you forme it was 1.7% in st, there is no set number for everyone tho

[lofty depot]

But if folty comes to CWS I take picture with him ok?

@cursive mirage

[royal zenith]

deal

[cursive mirage]

Sup

[royal zenith]

asking sup

thought you were a prophet??

[cursive mirage]

We talkin vandy boys?

[lofty depot]

Type shit

[wintry copper]

Thank you

[lofty depot]

Deux wants a picture

So I told him surely in july

[cursive mirage]

Deux as a prophet I share my visions of the future. Doesn’t mean I know what’s happening every second of dreamgroves insanity

Well if the boys get it done

I’ll be out there

[lofty depot]

Folty doesn't want to come out just to chill

Smh

[cursive mirage]

Definitely not

[lofty depot]

That's toxic

[cursive mirage]

Brother you live there

You know

[lofty depot]

Yeayeyayeyayeya

[cursive mirage]

There’s nothing that will make me want to be in that hell hole other than CWS

[lofty depot]

It's literally there regardless of vandy tho

[cursive mirage]

Yeah but I hate all other teams

Vandy boys >>>>>

[lofty depot]

Just likes the college and not the sport

Tragic really

[eager raft]

catch me anywhere but Omaha Nebraska

[cursive mirage]

Well that’s my team you dork

I love the sport trust.

But not enough to fly out to fucking Omaha to watch the bad guys play

I’ll just go to ATL and watch the Braves disappoint me instead

[lofty depot]

So watch other bad teams play for 20x the cost

Actual spectrum

[digital berry]

Spent 60$ a person last Sunday to watch the tigers go 1/6, with 3 hits.

[cursive mirage]

Money isn’t the issue king

[lofty depot]

Blud watches the tigers lol

[cursive mirage]

It’s your dog shit city

Gg

[lofty depot]

Says Atlanta

[cursive mirage]

Atlanta> Omaha

But also I’m not in Atlanta

Gg

https://tenor.com/view/drink-cowboy-gun-beer-fire-gif-9673889786650775489

[digital berry]

Bring gifs back

[eager raft]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-silly-cat-happy-cat-smile-gif-11748501437476694103

[lucid olive]

why dont u show ur ugly mug

[royal zenith]

show mug

[digital berry]

I just know arctic is a hottie in disguise

[lofty depot]

Cuz any picture I have is from my 20s and or family photos so

[lucid olive]

cap

[royal zenith]

Ill post a sticker of myself

if you send your mug in here

[lucid olive]

arctic's voice goes up 2 octaves when he laughs

[lofty depot]

Yea but ur hawt

[royal zenith]

I was drunk on this sticker..

[lucid olive]

he rips a real MJ hee hee

[lofty depot]

Type ahit

[digital berry]

I bet it still is hawt

[delicate perch]

Gg

[digital berry]

[maiden pasture]

so real

[digital berry]

Literally 48 hours ago i come in here asking if the Circlet is fucking worth it still and every single person told me i'm a dumbass for thinking i'm better than SIMs or that 1000000s of boomkins cannot be wrong about this -- but youre all fucking wrong

[quiet drift]

😰

[subtle sail]

Literally 48 hours ago i come in here asking if the Circlet is fucking worth it still and every single person told me i'm a dumbass for thinking i'm better than SIMs or that 1000000s of boomkins cannot be wrong about this -- but youre all fucking wrong

[scarlet tapir]

it is worth it...

my freshly dinged boomie will love it...

[turbid crypt]

Idk my sims still show circlet being better but i'm assuming once you're fully mythic geared then the crafted ring / a mythic football championship ring + jasters would replace

but some ppl get so bent out of shape just sim and do your thing

[digital berry]

It’s about mastery, since cyrce is a huge mastery cow, if you have a bunch of it from gear you can replace afaik

Or like a roulette wheel with heavy mastery

[turbid crypt]

but no need to lose your shit on ppl in discord... Sims are different for different players

[digital berry]

It was a copy pasta

[iron chasm]

Don’t you tell me not to lose my shit about something I’m so passionate about
Keep the funny ring on or else

[loud kettle]

Literally 48 hours ago i come in here asking if the Circlet is fucking worth it still and every single person told me i'm a dumbass for thinking i'm better than SIMs or that 1000000s of boomkins cannot be wrong about this -- but youre all fucking wrong

[drifting plank]

how do we sim ourselfs

for cyrclet change

people said is a different kinda of sim

i dunno

[digital berry]

1 target 5 minutes for all scenarios

You could mdt but it’s a little more work and most likely won’t change the outcome by much

[drifting plank]

i'm dumb

where do i find the all scenarios

[cloud plover]

all scenarios = you do 1 target 5 minute no matter what content ur simming for

[proper sinew]

Did someone get salty about the ring again

[drifting plank]

i use it

[delicate perch]

If I see one more person wearing two season 2 rings I’m going to fucking explode

[drifting plank]

i can send if you want

[exotic perch]

fuck you i like my cyrces

reeee

[noble spindle]

ok let me just

finger snap a 684 jastors real quick

[dry compass]

using circlet lets me tell people me gear is bad

[noble spindle]

🫰

[dry compass]

cause my ilevel is so low

[exotic perch]

its very simple just kill gallywix

[noble spindle]

u right my bad

[delicate perch]

Literally just buy the item

[exotic perch]

thats what i did tuesday cmon guys

it was very simple indeed

[digital berry]

We got one night of prog under our belt, dead soon

[exotic perch]

gally is easier then mugzee so probably yea

just make p1 clean and easy boss

[digital berry]

Yeah nobody can die in p1 or soaks are a mess

[swift ridge]

Yes please

[drifting plank]

i sent it to you

[iron chasm]

Makes me feel like the underdog in ilvl
We all love an underdog story

[scarlet tapir]

this is lowkey useless

[delicate perch]

How else are people meant to know??? Literally impossible otherwise

[scarlet tapir]

me when i have to look at the weakaura to see that 1 mob is missing a moonfire and another mob missing a sunfire, and then u gotta search for them in the pack cause u obviously not looking at the nameplates in teh first place, and then when u notice the mobs that are missing said debuffs, u waste 2 globals and the pack dies right after

ggwp

[digital berry]

high key agree

best case scenario you have 1 missing dot and you can use twin moon to catch it, worst case scenario you waste 3 globals dotting random shitters that instadie after because the WA said 10/13

[drifting plank]

then just dont use it

[digital berry]

Well people come in here to ask for help to play the game better, if someone believes a tool is a hindrance to you becoming better at boomkin they can let you know it’s not a good idea to use said tool

[cursive mirage]

@teal sphinx has ruined this place

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/agathasbike-chloefrqzer-gif-27064446

[digital berry]

[teal sphinx]

@delicate perch new emote

[digital berry]

me and who

[drifting nova]

[delicate perch]

[exotic perch]

Illegal

https://tenor.com/view/jail-no-excuse-gif-24460693

[iron chasm]

Ass we can

[grizzled laurel]

Hey ! ive got a balance with which i easily clear HC every week, and mug moxie HC > jastor HC sims on him.
Right now around 670 but still running Kezan champion and hero signet as trinkets.
Still wondering what should i do with my dinar even after checking here and on wowhead priority.
Someone have any suggestions ?

[digital berry]

How big of a difference is the dps gain between moxie and jastor?

If it's not huge i'd go with Jastor simply because it's just more difficult to drop and get

[grizzled laurel]

Jastor cyrce 0,6% / signet + Mug moxie 2,1% x)))

[delicate perch]

I love random numbers they're really fun

[grizzled laurel]

monotarget

raid pumper here x)

[delicate perch]

[digital berry]

Kezan is also a shitty trinket unless you play around it in m+ or raid mythic for the last 2 bosses

[delicate perch]

wtf photo change

[grizzled laurel]

yeah true, i'll try to sim easy to get m+ trinkets in hero for a quick change

[digital berry]

I'd say if you're not going to be raiding mythic this tier go for whatever the most dps gain is now

[grizzled laurel]

might be the easiest way to "really' check

[digital berry]

yeah i didn't like that one, this one has my renaissance festival costume

[craggy sonnet]

big robin hood phase .. providing knowledge for the poor

[digital berry]

that whole outfit is probably around 1000$

the cape alone is 250, and the sword is real

[craggy sonnet]

i dont see no sword

picture way too tiny

(if its even on there)

but thats a fine cape

[grizzled laurel]

Thanks !

[thorn nebula]

been stuck with eye of kezan all tier, it's actually been pretty annoying

[thorn nebula]

back to back weeks with no jug trinket even dropping let alone getting it when it does drop

gonna have to dinar it in a couple weeks

[digital berry]

ive been wearing normal jug all tier until we killed mythic

[craggy sonnet]

today lost hero jug to a 56 with 3 people or so rolling

[digital berry]

did you offer some gold to buy it from them?

i bought heroic jastor for 50k, you might get lucky

[craggy sonnet]

i did

i offered 50k

didnt want to pay much more either way with dinars being out

and me looking for a guild to actually clear mythic

[thorn nebula]

a guy in a heroic pug i did few weeks back dropped a HC +speed jug when the guy who won it had a HC jug with no tertiary.
Offered 100k
Guy didn't respond and equipped it

[craggy sonnet]

this cloak is actually fine btw

cool ear details as well

[thorn nebula]

annoying it lets tertiary count as a different item, shouldn't be able to roll like that against people who don't have the item

lol

[digital berry]

it's insanely beautiful, and the ears and crown are because it's supposedly an elven prince kinda deal

[craggy sonnet]

yea well, wcyd

[digital berry]

life's unfair, but i would have raged if i was in that group

[craggy sonnet]

thats what comes with the stupid tertiary system

[thorn nebula]

yea it is what it is

of all things i could complain about the game that is pretty low on the list though

we need an actual dev who understands this class

[craggy sonnet]

no idea what purpose it really serves .. now that they nerfed it anyways

i'd just scrap it but hey

[digital berry]

the only semi relevant one is leech for healers

speed is such an outdated stat

[craggy sonnet]

yes .. but they nerfed leech heavily

it still does stuff

[thorn nebula]

people talk about BiS so much that people completely glossed over how strong Big Earner's Bludgeon is btw
Got it in vault last week and decided to sim it and it is pretty negligible upgrade to switch to BiS and then you have to deal with double on use

[craggy sonnet]

but not like you can get pieces with it anyways

[thorn nebula]

didn't even have it on my radar and i passed on it for a couple weeks cause i was locked in the BiS-only mindess

mindset*

[craggy sonnet]

considering its 1 item per vault and raid where you most likely wont get it another time just cause it has a tertiary now

[delicate perch]

it'd be very impressive getting it when it didn't drop

[thorn nebula]

true, player diff shoulda done something about that

[delicate perch]

https://tenor.com/view/sip-gulp-drink-slurp-snoop-dogg-gif-13066168

[thorn nebula]

(also to this point, the shorter the fight obviously the better double on use would be - 3 min sim BiS is an insanely huge upgrade)

[digital berry]

yeah that item sims 0.8% worse then BiS

[thorn nebula]

once again relative though, on 7+ minute sims bludgeon starts simming better

but that is also theoretical singletarget patchwork - if you get to line up BiS with a beefy add wave like on Gallywix then BiS prolly smokes bludgeon

maybe i'm just pure copium cause the only BiS's that have dropped for my raid have gone to evokers ;P

[digital berry]

what did you dinar?

[thorn nebula]

took jastors

(mythic)

[digital berry]

oh you didnt have heroic?

[thorn nebula]

nah i had the equal stat heroic trink from ML

[digital berry]

i got bis + embellish change to a 1.7% st dps increase, and champ jug to myth mug at a 1.5% so just took bis and killed mugzee and dropped the jug anyway

[thorn nebula]

yea thinking about what i want for next trink - we've killed gally several weeks and haven't seen a single eye of kezan surprisingly enough

and i think that you definitely want an eye of kezan for next tier longer fights

[lucid olive]

did you sim BIS with embellishments or BIS with a useless writhing armor band

[thorn nebula]

nahh simmed it with embellishments

[lucid olive]

word

[thorn nebula]

but check the discussion after - it really depends on fight length

[digital berry]

This guys a pumper he wouldn’t do such puny mistakes

[thorn nebula]

shorter the fight better BiS is

[lucid olive]

did you check quick sim and see how BIS is used in the sim

[thorn nebula]

also if there are add waves you BiS would be nuts

nah didn't check how BiS is used in the sim, i could check the APL

[lucid olive]

just check quick sim or HTML

also make sure the crafted items you simmed aren't 687 or w/e the matrix bug makes them

[thorn nebula]

use_item,name=bestinslots,if=hero_tree.keeper_of_the_grove&buff.harmony_of_the_grove.up|hero_tree.elunes_chosen&(cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time>20|buff.ca_inc.up)

[lucid olive]

need to open the iteration in quick sim to get the addon string for it and paste that into top gear to see that, the tooltip won't show wrong ilvl

[thorn nebula]

actually pretty interesting how that is used lol

it is based of treants rather than inc for KoTG

[lucid olive]

yes

idk if its interesting but sure

should maybe be a check in there for on-use trinket or not

[thorn nebula]

well what is interesting is the possibility that they could become desync'd since we don't have incarnation for every tree cycle.

[lucid olive]

but spent too much time writing shit for trinkets nobody has the patience to keep going

well you don't wanna BIS with convoke if you have on-use trinket

cause the trinket effect is better

[thorn nebula]

yeah that is fair actually - forgot we're in a double on use world

[lucid olive]

if you want to write a better line for the weapons and trinkets then i really hope you do cause that shit sucks ass

actions+=/variable,name=pre_cd_condition,value=(!talent.whirling_stars|!talent.convoke_the_spirits|cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains<gcd.max*2|fight_remains<cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains+3|cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains>cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time+15*talent.control_of_the_dream)&(variable.on_use_trinket=0|(variable.on_use_trinket=1|variable.on_use_trinket=3)&(trinket.1.cooldown.remains>cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time+(15*talent.control_of_the_dream)|!talent.convoke_the_spirits&hero_tree.elunes_chosen&trinket.1.cooldown.remains>cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time-cooldown.ca_inc.duration|talent.convoke_the_spirits&(cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains<3&(ceil((fight_remains-10)%cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.duration)>ceil((fight_remains-trinket.1.cooldown.remains-10)%cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.duration))|cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains>trinket.1.cooldown.remains&cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time-cooldown.ca_inc.duration<trinket.1.cooldown.remains+15)|trinket.1.cooldown.remains+6>fight_remains|trinket.1.cooldown.ready)|variable.on_use_trinket=2&(trinket.2.cooldown.remains>cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time+(15*talent.control_of_the_dream)|!talent.convoke_the_spirits&hero_tree.elunes_chosen&trinket.1.cooldown.remains>cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time-cooldown.ca_inc.duration|talent.convoke_the_spirits&(cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains<3&(ceil((fight_remains-10)%cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.duration)>ceil((fight_remains-trinket.2.cooldown.remains-10)%cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.duration))|cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains>trinket.2.cooldown.remains&cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time-cooldown.ca_inc.duration<trinket.2.cooldown.remains+15)|trinket.2.cooldown.remains+6>fight_remains|trinket.2.cooldown.ready))&cooldown.ca_inc.remains<gcd.max&!buff.ca_inc.up

look at this

[thorn nebula]

ah jesus man

[lucid olive]

it needs to work with treants/ca and treants/incarn with and without control of the dream, and also work with EC incarn and EC convoke/ca

and also work with 90 seconds and 120 second cooldown trinkets

[thorn nebula]

why don't we split the APL for EC/KoTG?

[lucid olive]

and balance the weapons and triple on use

[lucid olive]

i suggested that

[thorn nebula]

We should have separate APLs for both rather than trying to hybridize them

[lucid olive]

but nobody has the patience to

[lofty depot]

dont worry, next expac theyll delete whirling, bring back IFE for keeper and make lunation starfires lower ca and it'll all be fucked once again

[thorn nebula]

yeah i played arcane mage last tier because i was so depressed at the state of boomy

and that shit was horrible

[lucid olive]

this version of the APL is probably as good as it can be, with the only known issue being Priory with EC incarn on 5m sims

[thorn nebula]

they made so many complete rotation-altering decisions back to back to back like week after week after week

[lucid olive]

unless someone decides to spend a few days making a new one from scratch

[lofty depot]

"someone"

[thorn nebula]

and i actually started working on the APL to master the class - it was fucked lol

[lofty depot]

need crazy to get to work :/

[thorn nebula]

do we have any private channels for APL discussion/research?

[lucid olive]

no

this is all u get

[thorn nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-9583576708402097457

ngl this was my face

[normal pilot]

you don't really need a separate channel

[exotic perch]

all of the tc is in a secret hidden server

[normal pilot]

spec has kind of sucked for a while there's not nearly enough interest to support research

[carmine vigil]

i love balance druid!!

[normal pilot]

if you're interested in looking into it you can just jump right on in

[thorn nebula]

yea no need to /cancelaura Primordial Pulsar or make sure you start the fight with exactly 120 stacks, etc.

[lofty depot]

this is not mage discord where they get react emotes and faq channels and tc/research channels

lets bring it down a notch, thanks

[exotic perch]

this is not needed here please

[thorn nebula]

you're so right, my bad.

On another note, I have a quick question about whether or not I should run haste or mastery enchants for my rings. What is better? /s

[exotic perch]

whatever the sim says is better

[carmine vigil]

clecia u do too much damage to be asking a question like that

[lofty depot]

u do too much damage for being a sheep

your opinion matters dwilkz

[carmine vigil]

🐑

[thorn nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[digital berry]

Blud thinks he can add an /s and call it a day

[thorn nebula]

😛 you're right i'm sucked in, maybe i'll hang around here more

[digital berry]

Maybe you do need to so some of your dps rubs off on me

[lofty depot]

are u cosplaying as frodo?

[slim iris]

Abort

[digital berry]

Im an elven prince how dare you

[lofty depot]

dollar store robin hood

[digital berry]

bro is jeaous i look spiffy and hot

[lofty depot]

what was it for

[delicate perch]

gang wars I bet

https://tenor.com/view/manny-car-driving-modern-family-sup-gif-5571436

[delicate perch]

sorry for your loss

[digital berry]

Renaissance festival, we go every year

[lethal crest]

Hey do you still /cancel aura star lord before using starfall/starsurge if the stacks are about to drop or if there is enough astral power to get back to 3 instantly?

[lofty depot]

its not a gain to do so

might feel a tiny bit better sometimes but u dont gain anything

[lethal crest]

Alright thanks

[tawdry cedar]

Does the buff on OAB get deducted from logs?

[jolly delta]

we're so back

[lofty depot]

no

[delicate perch]

[nova ocean]

Caught

[tawdry cedar]

sus

[lofty depot]

yea get mad about that

[meager storm]

u can see it on debuff

high roller

[tawdry cedar]

aw ye, thanks

[trim helm]

if 12s to unlock myth m+ trinkets is as far as im going. safe to just take heroic moxie and myth priory for first 2 most likely?

heroic moxie still sims better than what i have now

[loud kettle]

We are so back

[hollow mist]

me too dwilkz me too

[jolly delta]

(it doesn't work properly 🤡 )

[lofty depot]

probably fine yea

[jolly delta]

it doesn't differentiate between spells when applying the cdr

I'll go sleep

[night verge]

Quick question, how fast is it for boomies to get into keys? considering you have decent io?

[bright tiger]

do we need to change or "Sim Options" to be "Dungeon Slice" instead of "Patchwerk" for M+? I'm really only running M+

[bright tiger]

I generally don't have issues. It's not instant but fairly often.

[night verge]

I kinda wanna try dps, got tired of tanking

[mighty mica]

dslice is not supported for balance, use mdt as mentioned in the compendium or just lazy sim 1t5m

[trim helm]

wait, you mean this simming isn't good? ive been using it for years

(/s)

[digital berry]

What is that abomination

God bless

[trim helm]

haha

real post from pally discord once

[lethal imp]

So uh this might be a very weird question but do you actually spend a million globals mfing before sfing in giga pulls?

And what about if there are lots of low hp mobs like the civilians in the last segment of rookery

[lofty depot]

if they live long enough

[lethal imp]

Okay so not the civilians or droplets in brewery

Gotcha. Last question is it worth spending the first two globals wrathing during the gather (assuming I don’t have to chase behind) or do I just no-eclipse moonfire while the gather is occurring

[lofty depot]

If u can do it before going into combat

[jolly delta]

either wrath before combat or don't worry

[lethal imp]

Hmm why does combat status matter? Maybe I’m missing a talent interaction here

[jolly delta]

Dreamstate

[lethal imp]

Ah okay I didn’t read that correctly. Thought it only applies at the end of eclipse

So the idea is if I can get off double wrath before being flagged it’s worth but otherwise not worth consuming the dream state buff

[lofty depot]

Ye

[lethal imp]

Thanks

[jolly delta]

@loud kettle

who is caelus proudmoore and why does he have a build named after him

[normal pilot]

that's marvel

[loud kettle]

marvel ye, and idk it kinda just happened

[jolly delta]

what's marvel

like the superheroes

[normal pilot]

yes the feral hero

[jolly delta]

oh that marvel

I will name a build after kekkers next season

can't stop me

[loud kettle]

I won't stop you

[hollow mist]

she is a CRANKER FERAL DRUID

[delicate perch]

why isn't there a psybear build?

[mighty mica]

terrible bait

[spring lodge]

on myth ric, do i save my cds for adds?

[lofty depot]

how long is this "save"

and is your guild having trouble with adds

or a specific add set

[digital berry]

You can check on lorrgs what others are doing

Its common to hold third trees to be able to convoke ca trees the last add set before intermission

Otherwise you’re sitting on convoke off cooldown for the whole of intermission

[copper drift]

LF a weakaura that only shows your dreamstate and starlord, can't find any online

[digital berry]

you looked on wago?

that's where i got my starlod WA from

[copper drift]

what's the name of it, looking at it but can't find any

[lucid olive]

Just take any balance druid pack and then move the auras that you want out of the pack and delete it after

[copper drift]

perfect it works thank you

[digital berry]

For future fool proofing, the best way I’ve found to find weakauras on wago is to google the word wago + what yo want, and not using the wago search feature

Wago natures grace and wago starlord, the first results in Google are the weakauras you were having trouble finding

[copper drift]

thank you for the advice

[gritty viper]

Hey there. What kind of weapon enchant would you take in Live when you play Balance and resto with the same weapon? 🙂

[lofty depot]

which one do u play as resto?

[gritty viper]

Enchant Weapon - Authority of Fiery Resolve would be the Resto Enchant and Enchant Weapon - Authority of the Depths for Balance. The one does not make sense for the other spec.

[exotic perch]

You prob just use radiant

[gritty viper]

I have a crafted dagger with Haste and Mastery.

[exotic perch]

And use moonfire on stuff

[lofty depot]

probably play the haste enchant or yea radiant

[gritty viper]

Haste or Mastery Proc?

[cloud plover]

it's so weird to me to see people play different enchants

every single class I play I just put radiant and call it a day

[gritty viper]

But I think you might be right with Radiant.Bacause I will use moonfire, sunfire etc.

[lethal imp]

Idk I’ve been using stormriders

For resto/bal weapon

[gritty viper]

In the end it is not that important I guess 🫣

[hollow mist]

🙂

[cursive mirage]

oh hey @lofty depot they walked off again tonight against UK. 3 straight walk offs. Anchor Down

[brazen bramble]

i've done this and died to agro. im assuming im not hotting the correct mob.

[digital berry]

Or your tank sucks

There’s no way you steal aggro from a tank while dotting unless they are frolicking through the dungeon body pulling everything

[night verge]

noob question. if I have 2k io as tank spec and I wanna dps do I start from 0?

[lofty depot]

the boys

[drowsy venture]

hey guys, outside of opener, do i CA right after enter eclipse, or should i use it to extend eclipse

[lofty depot]

it doesnt extend eclipse

u dont need to enter eclipse before ca-ing

[digital berry]

You can just switch to dps spec and check yourself, but I doubt it. If you apply to keys people might be able to see you have 0 io as dps tho

[night verge]

Hmm :/ thats a shame, ty tho

[tepid lodge]

when i see people's IO in group finder, if they play more than one role, i just see 2 icons by their score. you won't see separate scores unless you go onto the website to check.

[loud kettle]

You need to have a certain percentage of your score in dps io for it to show a dps icon

Think its 1/3rd for faded icon, 2/3rds for full icon

[smoky horizon]

Do we already now know which effect for the D.I.S.C belt will be the best for M+?

[loud kettle]

Static charge

But also erase that from your memory

[smoky horizon]

Oh?

[loud kettle]

Its getting nerfed

[smoky horizon]

Static charge isnt that the base one?

[loud kettle]

Its the vers

[smoky horizon]

Ah

Guess this discord will have a pinned comment about what to get when it comes out

[loud kettle]

yes and compendium will have it too

[smoky horizon]

What's compendium?

[loud kettle]

Its just too early atm

Would be misinfo

dreamgrove.gg

[smoky horizon]

Ah.

Yeah I thought the belt came out on wednesday tho?

Maybe a false rumour

[loud kettle]

Thats corruption enchants

[smoky horizon]

Ah, same question, do we know yet which one will be best for that?

For m+

[loud kettle]

Probably void ritual but I haven't followed, i do not care about m+

[smoky horizon]

Alright that's fair, thanks anyway

[haughty pivot]

good morning, keeping in mind that the belt is coming in 11.1.7, what are the two slots to craft the embellishments on? i just leveled the character last week and went heroic, got BiS so i wouldn't want to craft a staff. is the versa way to go for m+? no going to raid mythic

[iron chasm]

Prob just craft it on low budget slots like wrists boots or cloak. Without raiding you are probably going to be taking vault slots and catalysing for mythic 4pc so even your off piece you don’t get could work, like gloves.

But gilded crafted weapon is going to beat a heroic best in slot by a fair bit and you’ll probably use ascension on wep with a writhing Armor banding as you’ll prob have reasonably low stat values so ascension will really help you

[haughty pivot]

oikay thanks for the answer

[iron chasm]

[pallid crest]

I'm not up to date at all. Anyone got wowhead link for next patch?

Or any summary? Cant find it

[fluid hazel]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

[scarlet tapir]

@eager raft

John pork in wow before GTA 6

[hollow mist]

aura

[woven osprey]

With the priory trinket do we hold our 3rd CA and trees to send with it and Convoke. Believe its around 30s waiting for trinket to come off cd.

[round field]

its not that much

with priory you just send trees on cd

and it lines up at 2 minutes perfectly

[woven osprey]

what about CA

[round field]

you use your 3rd for it

ur not pressing convoke without ca ever

[woven osprey]

yeah ok

ty

[dusk trench]

https://youtu.be/rsQlGjZebTo?t=9 does someone know how the druid roots the patrol without getting into combat?

[proper sinew]

Roots don't put you in combat

[dusk trench]

Rly o.O okay didnt know about that ty

[tired fulcrum]

Is there a good, public plater profile for M+? Dotting stuff up in pulls like 1st meadery has been really atrocious for me so far... some good color coding would also help, but I'm too dumb to make my own

[hybrid kelp]

I use Jundies https://wago.io/ak3iS95aa Highly customizable, easy to look at

[eager raft]

📱

[river galleon]

Cyrce's Circlet still best option as second ring?

[delicate perch]

sure (sim tho)

[river galleon]

Because was thinking about hc Jastor, but this is not much upgrade overall

[craggy sonnet]

hc jastor can still be your 2nd slot

[jolly delta]

we're so back

[lucid olive]

[craggy sonnet]

CotD in the house??!

[jolly delta]

ye

pushing in a sec

[lucid olive]

push keys instead

[jolly delta]

do you need a healer for your weeklies so badly?

[lucid olive]

no i just miss seeing you online

[jolly delta]

cute...

[maiden pasture]

lets push bro

[lucid olive]

deadge

guy gave up on the disc priest

we were boutta ascend!!

[maiden pasture]

aka

my guild died and i went back to a moonkin main

healer arc was fun but no more

[vital hound]

make x bigger in red circles

[jolly delta]

giving ui advice at this point in time is like telling someone at lvl 15 to enchant their gear

[vital hound]

you don't

??

trollin my lfg

[jolly delta]

also learn css and start opening PRs

[maiden pasture]

fuck css

fuck web dev

[vital hound]

NOPE

[jolly delta]

webdev sucks only if you're not using nextjs

and css sucks only if you're not using the latest classes

[cloud plover]

whatever you say funny magic man

[craggy sonnet]

damn .. it works

[jolly delta]

why do you sound surprised

[craggy sonnet]

i wonder

[drifting nova]

find god

[maiden pasture]

web dev sucks because its not native aps dev 😎

[tribal phoenix]

if you got into a failed mythic raid lockout with only 1 boss kill, is there anyway to game it to get a 2nd boss kill in another mythic raid? or is my chest just bricked for this week?

[calm plover]

How much dps would I expect to gain if I got the recommended bis eye of kezan and the deck ? I got a reverb radio and a focusing lens atm

[gentle matrix]

Depends what content you are focusing on

[calm plover]

I havnt really raided yet so mainly mythic+ delves and world content lol

[gentle matrix]

If you do mythic plus somewhat regularly i would recommend not going with eye

[calm plover]

Oh really? Glad you mentioned was going to get that first with the new currency

[gentle matrix]

Eye of kezan never really gets good value in keys so typically going for moxie jug or wax candle is better with house or priory trinket

[calm plover]

Awesome thank you

[craggy sonnet]

its bricked

once you accept a lockout, you can only ever play in that lockout

[tribal phoenix]

Rip

Oh well. Thank you

[craggy sonnet]

so unless you find 19 others to accept the lockout and kill another boss with you

thats it

[gentle matrix]

My advice unless you just want to now, if you have a full vault of 10s and stuff just wait til tuesday to buy anything

[tribal phoenix]

Sadge

[gentle matrix]

We get a vault and mythic dungeon week for heroic piece next week so you could save yourself dinars if you do your 4 mythics first and luck into one of the trinkets or jastor

[calm plover]

Eh I’m still pretty casual with my time plus I threw my back out this week so I havnt gotten to play at all, just can’t sit down right now, so my vault may be pretty sad come Tuesday lol

[gentle matrix]

Fair, im waiting for after the mythic dungeons cuz its a sad time if you loot a trinket from the quest or jastors and you bought it with dinars

[calm plover]

Yah that would be wild

[dry sonnet]

do i really need 90 crest for new crafted items to be max level ?

[quiet drift]

Yes

[digital berry]

90 crest to craft an item and forget about that slot is pretty cheap no

[merry crow]

you can also use 15 runed to make it 678. If you have the gold i'd do that and do the gilded upgrade for crafted last. 30 crest for 3ilvl is bad

[delicate perch]

you just do crafted armour last

[brisk tangle]

so im a bear player tryna swap to bamkin,13% mastery is rly bad right

[digital berry]

% doesn’t mean anything usually but that sounds pretty low yeah

[crisp scaffold]

Just get more than 21k mastery

[round field]

[brisk tangle]

Umm

yeah idk how

xD

Id have to like

Get diff gear and shit,no?

[digital berry]

Wdym , mastery on every piece + crafted items

[brisk tangle]

I guess i can change my crafted items

[crisp scaffold]

Yes ,all items with mastery,I have 25k now

[jolly delta]

only 25k?

[crisp scaffold]

I'm 674

[brazen bramble]

True

[pliant trellis]

is it normal that Wax 684ilvl trinket sims better than house cards + mug 671 ilvl or im getting baited ?

[digital berry]

Not unheard of, send sim

[brisk tangle]

Should i buy herioc bis or craft one hand and buy mythic offhand?

or is herioc bis just fine

[digital berry]

Heroic bis is bad

Compared to crafted

But you want to sim it

[frozen locust]

In heavy m+ aoe situations, is it best to spam starfire instead of using globals on starfall?

[digital berry]

No

[brisk tangle]

Starfall pumps bro

[digital berry]

You want to use starfall for : movement, not overcapping, starlord

[frozen locust]

just feels like I do more dmg when I spam starfire

[digital berry]

Well it feels wrong

Starfall should be your top dmg in every key

If it’s not you’re not using it enough

[frozen locust]

Will do a key now and check

ty 🙂

[plush prairie]

Only just seen this message, hello 🙂 were you the one my rogue mythic raided with?

"guild hopping" 😦 I aint a hoe I swear, tbh tho that was 2y ago I have no clue why I left guilds and stuff

[jolly delta]

Elhesia, was GM and RL but yeah

[plush prairie]

Struggled getting good mythic parses back then, and struggle now 😦 life has not changed

[jolly delta]

In our case you were probably too good compared to the other members tbh

[plush prairie]

Not to sound big headed but that was why I left ngl

Forgot boss name

Rashok? With the lava waves

[jolly delta]

Ye

[plush prairie]

people getting hit by that every single pull

the most basic mechanic in the game, evokers and shit getting hit lmfao

I did see that you end up killing it, and more

Not sure how far you got tho

but now for more sad news

Unfortunately slight upgrades in the hero department

[jolly delta]

Guild disbanded shortly after

[brisk tangle]

rashok broke the guild huh

[plush prairie]

Dayum

[jolly delta]

more news at 10

[sweet junco]

Have you tested the "Durable Information Securing Container" (DISC), the futur belt coming in Patch 11.1.7 ?
Because it's one of my crafting slots 😏

[jolly delta]

tbf I went to South Korea for a 3 week holiday

while we were on Rashok

and Rashok itself + the fact that we didnt really have capable officers killed it officially

[plush prairie]

Currently progging bandit rn, pulls start in an hour. I was watching a boomie pov, on the aoe part when ads spawn, he does starfall > surge > starfall > surge

is that what we should be doing?

or just spamming starfall?

[jolly delta]

but it was my first shot at being a GM so wasn't expecting much

[plush prairie]

Yeah, a lot of slackers in the guild atm tbf

[jolly delta]

did you see the guide on compendium?

[plush prairie]

compendium?

Never heard of it

[jolly delta]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/

more specifically

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

[brisk tangle]

so i can craft 2h,should i buy house of cards with my dinars then?

[jolly delta]

and

[brisk tangle]

and run signet/house of cards

[jolly delta]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/raids/liberation_of_undermine?roles=Balance%2CDPS

[plush prairie]

Just read up on them

None really specific, besides "Use starfall on 2 targets" "use starfall on 3+ targets"

In my head i'm assuming I would just spam full starfall during the ads phase, but for some reason the guy I was watching did surge > fall > surge > fall etc

[jolly delta]

Yeah I mean, the standard rotation kinda applies but

bandit is just a vibe

like the spec fundamentals are still valid, but

what to prio, if you need to burst adds, if you need to focus boss etc is hard to define and predict

[plush prairie]

I need ad damage

[jolly delta]

Like there's no secret tech here except for the fact that he wanted more damage on the boss/prio I assume

[plush prairie]

Fairs fairs

[jolly delta]

If you need add damage then dont surge

[plush prairie]

I haven't been playing boomie all that long tbf

Just full AOE then

Also another thing sorry, this is about gearing

[lofty depot]

Unless the prio target needs to die faat

Like in oab

[plush prairie]

We are on bandit rn

[frozen locust]

Yeah dunno, was a 10 rookery so shit died pretty fast
Sorry for HDR screenshot xd

[plush prairie]

This is current gear, and I simmed both myth maxed and hero maxed. I will wait and see if we kill bandit to purchase mythic house of cards, however it's a 24k dps increase, and moxy jug is pretty high on the list too as I have a champion one right now, if I keep killing heroics each week I might (I pray) I get it so wont waste it on that. Jaster Diamond seems to sim the highest slightly behind HoC

Mythic versions (Only look at dungeons/HoC)

Heroic versions that I would be able to get the ring on

[pliant trellis]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/71rdgAz2Z3V1Fx2zNn8QdS

[jolly delta]

5t 1m

[pliant trellis]

what should i do

[jolly delta]

1t 5m

[pliant trellis]

oh yeah , i did both , didnt sent

[jolly delta]

(also this is a 0.1% increase which is within variance)

[pliant trellis]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cpRp9YKcUXVuyHAhZstAeR

@digital berry

[digital berry]

this is a 13 theatre, the worst key in terms of aoe

mind you i suck

[digital berry]

do not use gear compare

top gear is the best simming method

[plush prairie]

Any chance you know what I should do for mine?

[digital berry]

but also, 0.3% pretty much means sidegrade at this point

[digital berry]

pretty sure you need to sim BiS in top gear separately, since this sim is not swapping embellishments over

so youre playing without any, and mind you they suck this season but any embellishment is going to be better then none, i have a feeling your highest dps gain is going to be BiS with double dusk or dawn or whatever

[plush prairie]

I do have embellishments on

[digital berry]

Are you not running ascension?

[plush prairie]

I am on my weapon

[digital berry]

so...

if you sim bis

what do you think happens to that embellishment

on your weapon

you lose ascension on your weapon since you're removing it, and patch on whatever it is that you have it on now has literally 0 purpose

[plush prairie]

I selected the options for the cartel chips, didnt know it would disable my embellishment

[digital berry]

it doesn't disable them, you are just not wearing a crafted weapon anymore, so you do not have the possibility to even have ascension in the first place

[plush prairie]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sdFTSGwvPgvXNJE9JeArQC

This is the topgear sim now tho, diamond is 12.7k increase, house of cards is 34k increase

[plush prairie]

ah

[digital berry]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hoW3Nd5AXU98LuKv4VWph7

would you look at that

[plush prairie]

Im ngl I forgot to sim best in slot, I forgot it drops on that boss my bad

[digital berry]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cFzYRZpsontocgPz93JfbH

the BiS + double embellish swap in itself is a 1.4%

fix your damn boots enchant too

[plush prairie]

What's wrong with them

[plush prairie]

So I should buy best in slot if I am able to kill bandit? and then recraft boots and feet for the other embellishment

[digital berry]

If you want highest possible dps increase yeah, hoc is also great tho since you don’t even have heroic version

[plush prairie]

I did win the drop 2w ago but I sold it

[digital berry]

But heroic hoc and signet are pretty much sidegrades, despite hoc lining up better

[digital berry]

Respectable

[tawdry geyser]

I’m sure myth priory is better no? If you’ve timed all 12s to buy it with dinars

Then hc cards atleast

[digital berry]

Ehh

[plush prairie]

I have timed all 12s

[digital berry]

Sidegrade at best

Maaaaybe it pulls ahead a bit but it’s a 2 minute and that’s cringe

[plush prairie]

real

Okay i'll see what happens if we kill bandit

[digital berry]

How close are you? I mean it’s not like dinars expire and as it stands right now you barely have anything decent to take anyway

[plush prairie]

This is my 2nd day attempting

we hit 38%

[digital berry]

P2 is free idk why people in my guild were saying it’s the hard part, just blast, cc, aim and dodge it ain’t that herd

[plush prairie]

We weren't going to kill it when we wiped

We had a few dead and 1 man was offline for like 20+ pulls

[digital berry]

It’s a dps check, have everyone alive and blast, with all these ilvls we got recently you shouldn’t have an issue if your team is half decent

[plush prairie]

think we got like 1 guy 684, and I think lowest is me at like 676

[frozen locust]

Ah ok, so starfall and starfire are pretty close then anyway

I have a ton of haste, which might be the issue

[digital berry]

They are close in top since it’s the dungeon with the smallest pulls and the most minibosses and single target

[frozen locust]

thats makes sense yeah

[digital berry]

Rookery has some massive pulls but then again in a 10 pug idk how much they are pulling

[frozen locust]

Everyone was 3k+ other then the tank who didnt really do huge pulls so it wasnt great