balance

[sudden flame]

this is so real

[lucid olive]

so many guilds disbanded the past few weeks we are getting run down with apps

[lofty depot]

Time to log review andy

[sudden flame]

same

[lucid olive]

we already recruited a melee, will probably recruit another ranged and then healer to fill the missing spot

could probably fill out a full mythic raid roster with the apps we have to decline

[dry compass]

Do you also get the apps with one-word responses to all the questions

[dire plinth]

does anyone know if there is a list or map of packs where I should cast vortex?

[cloud lion]

They need to put questions like where do u see yourself in 5 years for guild recruit

[pallid bay]

if mob jumps away, vortex = good

[cloud lion]

Or if u want to stop cast as last resort

Or to stack them

Or even slow them

[quiet drift]

Ur prema slowing w shrooms anyways

[cloud lion]

If proc

Outside cds

[cloud lion]

Free CE

Trying to get

[pallid bay]

should clean this out maybe

[cloud lion]

I apply for higher keys when there are no for my next push lvl

[dry compass]

My favorite was "what do you expect from the guild" - "nothing"

[cloud lion]

Its similar with guilds

[dry compass]

????

[pallid bay]

just a gamer trying to game

[cloud lion]

Kill boss before i kill myself

In game

That is how u respond

[lofty depot]

If they get denied, they expected nothing from the app. Ezpz

[jade flume]

Man im so hyped

Gonna get omega jacked today

[jovial geyser]

Question for this strong community: I haven’t played since MoP, and have been playing classic. I have read the wowhead guide and watched some YouTube videos but my damage is still sub-par in mythics. I’m 663 ilvl doing 10-12s I have no logs atm. But ANY help, tips or tricks with dps?

I do know I find myself falling back into classic boomkin sometimes (trying to snap shot dots, waiting to dot until eclipse etc).

[lofty depot]

U haven't read the guide?

Probably read it

[jovial geyser]

Have sorry

[lucid olive]

click link in channel description

[lofty depot]

If u say ur falling back into classic boomkin that likely.means it's a continuous problem

So work on dotting things and keeping them dotted

[devout hazel]

peak performance

[cursive mirage]

I read it every day as motivation

[lofty depot]

Motivation to bench ur self or?

[digital berry]

Is there any particular reason why this is happening ?

[lucid olive]

yeah mythic raiding sucks

[lofty depot]

Happens every tier, leaders get tired

[dry compass]

There's some pretty wide variety in pull counts this tier too

Which is always going to cause lots of drama in guilds that are higher numbers on that front

[copper drift]

any good plater recommendation for druid ?

[dry compass]

Jundies is good

[copper drift]

playing with that but i struggle tracking all my dots

Dwilkz's plater is private ?

[dry compass]

Add an overriding condition to make the bar a certain colour without dots

Can't speak to dwilkz but might be paywall gated for subs?

[boreal sapphire]

https://wago.io/vMZH2aTXo

i use this one, you can find others that include sunfire if you want

[copper drift]

ty i'll try

[fervent merlin]

Think he uses Kronas plater

[digital berry]

What do you struggle with? Visual or nameplate stacking ?

[muted canopy]

looking at the thumbnail for that makes me wish once more that we got those cervids as a travel form smh

[junior stirrup]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oYiDL7fAQPfnZFMiMcMARg can anyone figure out why my raidbots is showing me as 1.7M DPS base?

am i just blind or

[lofty depot]

595

[plush prairie]

maybe because you are 595 ilvl lmfao

[junior stirrup]

ye but why

[plush prairie]

did you select that

when you put the stuff in the sim

[junior stirrup]

ye the simc inoput is correct

[boreal sapphire]

something odd with your weapons, all the weapons are showing like a 30% increase

[lucid olive]

nice

[junior stirrup]

not sure why its doing that

have relogged and respecced etc

checking everting

[plush prairie]

send your simc string

[lucid olive]

try another browser

its not the simc string

[plush prairie]

I was going to sim it myself

[lucid olive]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aZ3Du7F8pybdo1NkHiYQUY

[digital berry]

cant really send simc strings in here

[lucid olive]

this is the same addon string

[plush prairie]

how not?

[junior stirrup]

thats so weird

[lucid olive]

you can copy it from his sim

[plush prairie]

it goes to text document

[lucid olive]

at the bottom of every sim theres this box

[lofty depot]

Also, u should change ur talents cuz flare and ob are some funny ones

[lucid olive]

try it again and if it is the same then delete your raidbots cookies in your browser or something

[astral pollen]

Got Myth track priory trinket and now im clueless what to get with Dinar either heroic House or mug jug ooor myth candle. I pref Play m+ only and I know I can sim But I also want the opinion of Rhodes precious owls here

[junior stirrup]

i have talent loadouts for each boss setup but i use this one for sim

am i trolling

ahahah

[digital berry]

the opinion is sim it

[lucid olive]

well you dont play flare for any boss..

[junior stirrup]

when did this change

😆

im trolling

i assumed sprocket

at very least

[digital berry]

after the first round of buffs this season

[lucid olive]

with the 30% wrath buff

[copper drift]

just stuggle with the visuals ig xd

[lucid olive]

made Wild Surges just a better talent

[plucky valley]

Heroic jug or jastors diamond if you don’t have already

[junior stirrup]

ah fair

[copper drift]

added a mod for the colors but now convinced

[astral pollen]

Then your opinion is worthless

[junior stirrup]

ty for help

[digital berry]

[junior stirrup]

and no OB?

[plucky valley]

That was funny

[astral pollen]

Jester already owned

[lofty depot]

Maybe black list the dots/debuffs that don't matter

Add some space on the overlap so they don't stack that hard

[digital berry]

what gives people the audacity

[plucky valley]

Don’t care

(I’m jealous)

[copper drift]

thank you i go try

[lofty depot]

Rekt

[digital berry]

if you told it to sim i can guarantee its answer would have been different

[lofty depot]

Maybe say it better

[boreal sapphire]

only answer other than sim, priory trink is already an active trinket so jug would be good for a passive 2nd

myth candle simmed lower than heroic jug for me

[wanton socket]

so is 2 dusk the bis option for mythic raid overall or is just most people using it cuz of m+

[junior stirrup]

in m+, are we holding bestinslots for our CDs or use on cooldown if it doesnt syncx up?

[astral pollen]

Yeah confused me because saw people Play priory and house But seemed odd to me thats why is asked

[lofty depot]

M+ers prob, also embells are just shit so it's w.e.

[shut trench]

fello boomies, are we still running Cyrce's ? is sim a reliable source for Cyrce's situation?

[lofty depot]

Likely should be using with cds

[lofty depot]

1. Read the pin
2. yea

[digital berry]

any answer other then sim is purely opinion based

[boreal sapphire]

which is what he asked for 🙂

[lofty depot]

But "sim it" is opinion hmmm

[junior stirrup]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n51StzsUE3aoKTDaUnFJXc

even after cookies deleted

still getting this nonsense

[analog monolith]

can someone explain m incompetence?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7EF8hk3BEC6ysc6s3YaxMy

ah nvm, above me the same^^

[junior stirrup]

ah my bis is in agi mode

[analog monolith]

nvm

mine are bracers

[plush prairie]

So guys, what did you all take from the tokens?/going to take

[junior stirrup]

BiS weapon

[plush prairie]

myth raid one?

[analog monolith]

even if, more amstery would make them better, first not for 1,3%+ dps, and if thats the case the crafting one should better then the 684er

[junior stirrup]

yeah!

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pUtPeRqCCB9pTMYPX7Em6n

there we go

[plush prairie]

Neat

[astral pollen]

Damn Little Boy is obsessed with his worthless answers

[digital berry]

are you ok? Everything ok at home? This is not normal human behavior

[astral pollen]

Well considering you answered exactly what wasnt asked ill guess you should tell that to yourself bud

And you still go on with it Like your stuck with your thinking process

Have a nice day still bud it will get better 🙂

[digital berry]

crazy how you literally still haven't gotten an answer for your question cause it doesn't exist.

[neon lark]

Anyone have a clean nameplate plater profile

[slim iris]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-brb-eating-stealing-catsdoingthings-gif-16767943

[astral pollen]

He answered exactly right tho but ik reading is Hard you already showed that

[digital berry]

what a pointless thing to get so bent about

[lofty depot]

Your opinion doesn't exist or

[digital berry]

bro came in here looking for an argument

[slim iris]

https://tenor.com/view/rats-fighting-rat-fight-angry-mad-gif-13901914678315108280

[astral pollen]

You just here to Troll I guess

[digital berry]

Is he playing a bit?

[astral pollen]

And now you mad because someones telling you

[orchid ember]

ok can you fight it out in DMs

[analog monolith]

any idea what is bugged here, or a dumb msitake from myself?

[lofty depot]

I prefer it here

[digital berry]

don't sim 5t5m, it's not generally a good sim to run

[astral pollen]

Im done here got my answer from soneone actually reading

[analog monolith]

but that snot the point it does the same on 1t

[orchid ember]

Bad sim, 5t5min is useless

[analog monolith]

its ym m+ sim and people sim that why,b esides that there is no differenc emost of the time

[digital berry]

Got his answer: a list of the top items to choose from that everyone already knows about( Spoiler, he will sim it to choose the best one )

[slim iris]

Should sim it

[analog monolith]

so anybody knows whats bugged there?

here 1t is u like

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cD1pp9okANm5XBdoZkD1yx

[molten parcel]

Is this something new or known bug? Droptimizer shows 26k dps increase for crafted dagger, but Top Gear shows 23k dps loss for the same combination.

[orchid ember]

What do you think is bugged?

[analog monolith]

there is no way ~200 mastery loss is 2% dps

when i get more vers and int for it

[astral pollen]

Already simmed before maybe read what I Wrote ik its Hard for you but youll get it eventually

[lofty depot]

Missing raid buffa

[analog monolith]

and IF it is cause of mastery why is the 684 higher then craftign

no they ar enot msising

guys

[astral pollen]

Youre a big boy I believe have a nice day bud

[analog monolith]

i sim for m+

[lofty depot]

Well that's why ur missing dps

So wehm

[analog monolith]

and it worked fine all season

what?

mate i mean the difference of the bracers

i obviously sim with my m+ setup for m+

its not aobut "Missing dps"

[normal pilot]

there's some funkiness with the higher ilevel items

[orchid ember]

^

[normal pilot]

just wait a day or two to sim

[analog monolith]

first real asnwer thanks^^

[digital berry]

pretty sure sims didn't implement them correctly yeah

goddamn

what's up with the influx of rude ass people

in the last couple of days

[little sphinx]

hello guys, anyone has had their druid forms bugged? it works but the appearance is of a dwarf, only travel form shows properly? always looks like this even though i'm a night elf

[digital berry]

[orchid ember]

I mean this could have been answered faster if you actually used words to explain the issue

[little sphinx]

[analog monolith]

wasnt rude tbh, so i admit its a bit frustrating if people jsut give asnwers without thinking properly

[analog monolith]

thats correct, it my bad aswell

[fervent merlin]

Took u like 4 min to get an answer

[digital berry]

sends a random sim and asks what is bugged

[fervent merlin]

Pretty good u ask me

[normal pilot]

you're fine, this is a large public discord

there are plenty of assholes new and old

[fervent merlin]

I remember asking questions on forums in bc & it would take weeks sometimes

[analog monolith]

ye kinda thought people would look into it, not used to discord culture. i admit i could have engaged in it better

[lofty depot]

It looks like it's taking ur items at lower ilvl

Like the base wowhead ilvl at 593 or some shit

[digital berry]

i feel like it's better for now if you really need to sim to top gear add the items at the ilvl you want instead of using the upgrade feature for 8/8

[lofty depot]

Doesn't work that way either

But yea something fucky

[digital berry]

Uh oh

[pallid bay]

,ilevel=681

[lucid olive]

should keep this bugged so people can learn to edit their simc inputs

[lofty depot]

Far harder to do said sim on mobile :/

[dry compass]

You mean so the questions about how to sim in this channel and your DMs can increase 1000x?

[round field]

Rude

[analog monolith]

it was wiht edit and not upgrade

[orchid ember]

like you edited the simc string?

[kind cipher]

If i have Best In Slot weapon and House of Cards, how do i manage the on-uses throughout a M+ dungeon?

[iron chasm]

@delicate perch

[iron chasm]

First two uses you can sync with your two charges of incarnation. The rest I was syncing with naked foes or whenever I had two charges again (pooling for a boss or something)

Not 100% because just got it but I’m finding it makes it feel pretty good and flows well

But alwyas try and sync ur hoc with incarnation as it’s the stronger on use

[paper bay]

Not used to discord culture

[iron chasm]

Some people just lurk

[coral cairn]

the guy might be typing 5 words per year in discord

what's ur point

[royal zenith]

if we're gonna dunk on people

I will join and dunk on all of you

beware..

[lofty depot]

Deux is 5'5' he ain't dunking on anyone

[royal zenith]

5'11

ackshually

think I can make it tbh

[lofty depot]

Ducks can't jump so doubt

[paper bay]

Says 5 11
drivers license says 6’
reality 5’ 5”

[royal zenith]

ducks can fly tho..

[lofty depot]

Quack quack type shit

[royal zenith]

[iron chasm]

As they say white name can’t jump

[royal zenith]

okay calm down

'Booty pop'

[lofty depot]

Dirty pop

[iron chasm]

Nailed me 😭

Here I was thinking I was making a cool pop culture reference from my childhood and deux took me to the horse doctor

[lofty depot]

He can say that actual, cuz they remade white man can't jump on netflix

So is fine

[iron chasm]

🫡

[glacial acorn]

Just wondering, has anyone done the sim for on pull setup priory trinket vs best in slots on use in that CA vs waiting for the 2nd CA

[iron chasm]

Priory gives more mastery no? If so popping it on pull would sync best because it’ll line up with your passive trinket/lust/pot/bis roulette proc etc so you get the most use out of the mastery it gives

[glacial acorn]

Yeah, I just wondered if anyone had done the numbers on it

[digital berry]

You want signet synched up with convoke, if you use it second ca it’s gonna be a whole mess

[iron chasm]

Oh yeah also convoke

Been talking to too many mini gamers about incarnation

[shy solstice]

yesterday i got the reverb radio which is hero pathed and i just now got the candle which is champ path but the reverb radio isn't on my bis list should i hold the candle till i get my bis then upgrade that or upgrade the radio?

[digital berry]

There is no such thing as a bis list, you wear what sims the best until a sim tells you to wear something else

[digital berry]

SIM the trinkets max upgraded and follow what the sims tell you, since crests are uncapped now it’s really only a matter of grinding crests

[glacial acorn]

It also depends on how you set the sim up too for the value it's giving you. For M+ I usually run sims different than when looking at raid

[digital berry]

That’s generally not a recommended route

[shy solstice]

how do i change it to max upgrade lol

[digital berry]

Press the + button in top gear

You might have to select max all at the top if you don’t have the resources currently available

[frozen lion]

Hey, can someone tell me if I did something wrong? I simmed my character to check if the gallywix ring is better than my current one. But for some reason both the ring from gallywix and the same ring on a HIGHER item level sim lower than my current one. I really dont know what the problem is. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tR23rzQwofeJwSMQtGLKem

[shy solstice]

got it hell yeah

[digital berry]

Not confirmed but very likely smth is wrong with raidbots scaling and item lvl after the new patch and ilvl cap raising

[frozen lion]

Aah okay, that would make sense. Is the jester diamond generally better than the ML ring or should wait buying it until the sims work correctly again?

[iron chasm]

Jastor is bis for sure

[frozen lion]

ty for your help^^

[ivory jacinth]

So jastors should be better on HC track? Just came here asking the same thing, pre turbo boost Jastors HC showed as upgrade, now it doesnt

[digital berry]

Jastor in hero track is most likely better then any other hero track, other myth track? It’s probable but I don’t have certainty so I can’t say it’s guaranteed

[ivory jacinth]

Yeah so for me, I run a MugZee high Mast neck HC, got meadery neck on myth track in bag. I got footbomb ring on myth track + cyrce.. Pre boost, If Id get the jastors, I would run meadery neck on myth track with it and it was better than HC mugzee neck + footbomb ring. Atm it isnt anymore

[maiden pasture]

me next me next

[royal zenith]

too easy

[digital berry]

I’d wait for now till we have some official confirmation

[royal zenith]

will do it when you least expect it..

[elder remnant]

Has anyone managed to sim circes out of existence yet

[maiden pasture]

[elder remnant]

I would rather complain

[maiden pasture]

[elder remnant]

It’s not even in the pins you ape

[lofty depot]

tragic lookin on mobile

[royal zenith]

it literally is

[elder remnant]

Not for me!!!!!!

[royal zenith]

you're just very restricted in terms of brain power

[maiden pasture]

user error

[royal zenith]

very unfortunate

[scarlet tapir]

Man ive done like 10 12s and i still need another 10 to upgrade everything

Kms

[elder remnant]

Screenshot for me Daddy Deux

[lofty depot]

well if ur not reading it on mobile

[royal zenith]

nein

[lofty depot]

then u blind

[maiden pasture]

it just says

[lofty depot]

so which is it rae

[maiden pasture]

u might replace

based on ur stats

[teal sphinx]

k e y s?

[maiden pasture]

sim it lol

thats all it says

[elder remnant]

I’m in bed

[scarlet tapir]

@eager raft can u log in on my account and play 10 12s on my evoker?

[elder remnant]

Can’t sleep and have to be up in 4 hours for work

[scarlet tapir]

In game ofc

[elder remnant]

[teal sphinx]

sounds like keys for 4 hours

[lofty depot]

close eyes

[teal sphinx]

[lofty depot]

go sleep

ezpz

[lime badge]

[elder remnant]

Circes outsimming 684 rings keeping me up

[orchid leaf]

We can't get rid of that darn ring?

[lime badge]

[lofty depot]

some of us can

[olive shard]

what is the best ,,fight style" in raidbot for mythic + ?

[lofty depot]

mdt sim or patchwerk 1t5m

[elder remnant]

About to be me on the roads soon

[wind island]

is it worth replacing siren ring, with max crafted ring ?

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/skate-kanji-cat-gif-18361256103636562809

but the answer is more than likely no

[elder remnant]

Yeah just do it

Craft haste vers

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[iron chasm]

[lofty depot]

sounds good

im mage

[elder remnant]

Who

[iron chasm]

Disgusting

[lofty depot]

👀

[iron chasm]

Nelf race change now surely

[lofty depot]

dwarf >

[iron chasm]

Flips worth the dps loss

[lofty depot]

who needs smeld when u have that in ur class already

mage > stupid chicken

[elder remnant]

Petition to remove Arctic orange name and give it to Kekkers instead

[iron chasm]

Unbelievable.. and to think I trusted an orange name and he’s a freaking mage spit

[iron chasm]

I’ll scream that from the rooftops give kekkers what he deserves

[elder remnant]

@drifting nova

[eager raft]

Ye send log in info

[wind island]

I already have i crafted as mastery/Haste from last season

[boreal kiln]

Hey guys! Is a single target Elaine’s chosen build still significantly below the other hero talents after buff?

[elder remnant]

Don’t think just send it bro

[boreal kiln]

Or can I just EC for raid and m+

[drifting nova]

WASSSUP

[elder remnant]

If only we had a … I don’t know… compendium for such information

[royal zenith]

stop being a dickhead raellyn

you literally arn't able to read pinned msgs

[lime badge]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-fun-excited-celebration-celebrate-gif-23737323

[wind island]

Are u for real, or just trolling?

[elder remnant]

You’re not a mod anymore beard man

[royal zenith]

cringer

!

[iron chasm]

Hey man arctic was just saying he was going to give you his orange name because he’s a dirty mage player now

[elder remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-scared-of-you-you-dont-scare-me-courageous-you-dont-intimidate-soni-nicole-bringas-gif-15143849

[drifting nova]

big if true

[elder remnant]

Ask Arctic he’ll tell you the same thing

[iron chasm]

Never trust raellyn ever

[elder remnant]

Never trust Arctic’s tacos

[wind island]

what do u suggest bootypop?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[elder remnant]

Never forget

[noble spindle]

secondary stat not vers

throw that away

[wind island]

when i sim it, its 2% dps increase

[elder remnant]

He suggests crafting

[lofty depot]

Also casting Starfire is ahit

[elder remnant]

A ring

[digital berry]

Sims are all fucked rn

[lofty depot]

It was a 0.5% upgrade and otherwise would go to tank :/

[boreal kiln]

Thank you! Fine I’ll learn how to macro trees into all my cooldowns

[iron chasm]

I suggest using your circes as your promise ring because ur never taking it off

[lofty depot]

Don't do that

[elder remnant]

What

[wind island]

im so confused

it seems that ur trolling tbh

[iron chasm]

Don’t take off funny ring

[elder remnant]

Take off funny ring

[iron chasm]

It’s 3am and she’s just TROLLING THE DISCORD

[drifting nova]

y not huh

[elder remnant]

Special sauce

[wind island]

Pity that druid discord cant be a truthworthy source of information anymore😞

[elder remnant]

Pity that druid discord cant be a truthworthy source of information anymore😞

[iron chasm]

I SAID DONT TAKE OFF THE FUNNY RING

[elder remnant]

It’s 3am and she’s just TROLLING THE DISCORD

[lime badge]

Take off funny ring

[elder remnant]

Green name said it

Must be true

[iron chasm]

@drifting nova is the tiebreaker here

[lofty depot]

That's not my green name

[iron chasm]

As a future orange name what should we do ?

[lofty depot]

So please ignore

[elder remnant]

@potent cargo do we take off the ring

[iron chasm]

I wish Gamz was here

[elder remnant]

Me too

He would wisely tell us the sims are bait and we take off the ring

[lofty depot]

Gotta ask torty

[iron chasm]

Pity that druid discord cant be a truthworthy source of information anymore😞

[lofty depot]

When was it last trustworthy

[iron chasm]

When paper was here..

[lofty depot]

That's crazy

[iron chasm]

It’s crazy times man

[lofty depot]

Crazy, I was crazy once

[elder remnant]

Shut up arctic

[iron chasm]

A regular seemingly trustworthy source is now playing the enemy class

Times are changing

[lofty depot]

Go to sleep rat

[elder remnant]

Where is paper

[iron chasm]

He hath been smote

[elder remnant]

No way????

GIVE ME BACK MY BOY

[lofty depot]

He got an extended thymeout

[elder remnant]

First we lose turtle, now paper?

[iron chasm]

His thyme with us has ended

[elder remnant]

Pity that druid discord cant be a truthworthy source of information anymore😞

[iron chasm]

Time for both of us to go to sleep raellyn these are true degen hours to be awake

[elder remnant]

Too true brother

[iron chasm]

Night @drifting nova

[elder remnant]

Goodnight @drifting nova

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kissing-mwah-cat-kissing-camera-gif-14311711734999479085

[lime badge]

Sweet dreams @drifting nova

[scarlet tapir]

Awww u guys are so cute

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/cummins-gif-12535975135255283466

[final sundial]

whats the absolute best sim for higher m+ main?

[lofty depot]

Like number or

[final sundial]

i mean

sim settings

[lofty depot]

Learn how to do some editing on MDT Sim

Or don't and 1t5m like a chad

[final sundial]

or just tell me what settings to use

for raidbots sim settings

[lofty depot]

I did

[final sundial]

is 1t5m a good sim even tho im pure aoe m+

[lofty depot]

What ur asking for isn't the "base" setting to raidbots

So as stated

Learn to use MDT sim and do some editing to make it function well. Or don't

[final sundial]

okay okay

how about this

what is the best sim settings to use with base raidbots :)

[lofty depot]

Yes 1t5m because the apl is made around it and is fine

1t5m

[leaden birch]

yo arctic

why do mages sim 5t 5m

[crimson helm]

Anyone else surprised how bad BiS Mythic is simming for him compared to 2h Crafted + Ascendance and Writhing Embellishment ? Are there any current bugs known in this matter or is BiS maybe actually bait without flat sec stats ?

[leaden birch]

make sure to swap to 2x lens embellishment

[lofty depot]

Cuz MDT is shit and u can sim aoe to get interactions of shit

Like I've said before

[crimson helm]

I sure did to Duskthread, 2 times.

[lofty depot]

It's not perfect but I get some info on what stats/items do in a 5t area.

[leaden birch]

send sim

[crimson helm]

Still, overall sims 4k less.

I might as well post the link in here not sure if Im allowed though ...

[lofty depot]

Also they edit their Sims like non stop trying to find random rotational dps increases so sheug

[leaden birch]

you can

oh lmao

I thought mages just like seeing big sim numbers

[crimson helm]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pKK8jTBtoxXY4E3xjFooj5

[leaden birch]

where's your 2nd lens

oh nvm i see it

[crimson helm]

feet and waist

[leaden birch]

it's kinda annoying having to look at these tiny ass icons lmao

[lofty depot]

I mean idk what u already have and are upgrading from cuz there's 400 items

Also, ascension is just better on st than dusk so

[livid forum]

Can you tell me the sequence of pressing items in the macro, if there is a deck of cards and a best in slot, with a burst?

[crimson helm]

All the things in the table is what I currently have. I just simmed with three diff embelishments and 2 additional rings, thats why its so stacked.
But in theory it tells me that the best I can get is without BiS... and rather HoC Mythic.

[lofty depot]

R u making a macro or am I waiting for u to post a macro?

[woven igloo]

Isn't sims bugged atm cuz its not doing proper upgrades?

[lofty depot]

It gets used in order of said lines in the macro

[leaden birch]

could this have something to do with it?

[lofty depot]

Yessem

[crimson helm]

Thats what I was wondering too.

[woven igloo]

^^

[leaden birch]

interesting

[woven igloo]

Do we have any date on when 11.1.7 is out ?

[livid forum]

no matter how much I wanted advice, maybe someone knows a better way to proceed

[crimson helm]

Aight, so I might not spend my coins yet, gonna wait for updates on raidbots ?!

[modern cradle]

would a 681 crafted ring be better than a 671 jastors?

[leaden birch]

probably not

[modern cradle]

trying to figure out whether i wanna get house of cards, moxxies jug or jastors

[lofty depot]

That doesn't answer the question

[leaden birch]

i think he wants a cast sequence macro that can either press trink or BIS, but is wondering whats the best order to put it in?

if I'm going off that, I don't think they should be macrod together but I dunno

[lofty depot]

Crafted is like what 3.5k mastery so likely not

[modern cradle]

out of house of cards, moxxies jug or jastor's, which do you think is the most add value?

[leaden birch]

are they all mythic?

[lofty depot]

Depends on ur ability to get said items on myth track

[leaden birch]

artic will say

[modern cradle]

no, heroic. i wont be doing any mythic raid

[leaden birch]

then jastors

[lofty depot]

Sooooo, jastors, then myth priory prob

[leaden birch]

myth priory barely beats out heroic hoc for me

[lofty depot]

Myth prior probably could be first too

Kinda depends

[lofty depot]

Yea but ilvl gang

[leaden birch]

[modern cradle]

i have a heroic priory and a 577 deck lol

[lofty depot]

So maybe myth wax

Sheug

[lone root]

Can someone explain to me why Heroic Priory trinket is better than Heroic HoC as balance on my sim ?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4y3CLSH2WcKEZwCgUSNvZC

[crimson helm]

Okay guys, I did sims with BiS Mythic and HoC Mythic without the fancy upgraded crafted items and it wasnt even close, BiS is way ahead.
Its probably some bugs with the matrixes.

[lone root]

I thought HoC was an upgraded version of the Signet (more stat, fit every CA), looks like i was wrong in that sim, and i can't understand why i lose 0.2% with HoC

[lofty depot]

"upgrade version of signet"

No

And signet fits in every ca just fine

[lone root]

Not on Incarnation tho

[lofty depot]

Yes on incarn

[lone root]

Or i must be dumb but i've 90 sec cd on the CA/Incarn, not 120sec

[lofty depot]

Ok, u don't need to press incarn every 90 seconds

It's a charge, u can hold it for 90 more seconds

And not lose any uses

[lone root]

I see your point, but not holding sound better than holding

[lofty depot]

Sounds =/= is

[lone root]

Like if i can just CA every 90sec with HoC, it sounds to me that is better than delaying from 30seconds each windows of CA but as i said it's how i felt

So, why does HoC fall behind Signet then ?

[craggy sonnet]

try adding HoC manually to your top gear

i feel like sometimes raidbots sims stuff very weird

[lofty depot]

Because there's down time and ur not always sending it like that

Also, ur simming st so nothing is being held ever and it all lines up both ways

Put it all depends on pugs and downtime if it's actually better

Because there's always downtime in places in ur pugs

[lone root]

I'm not simming for m+

Talking as raid pov here

[lofty depot]

U said incarn which we use for 1 fight in raid so that was crazy

And in raid ur always holding CA for convoke at 2m

Which lines up with signet

[lone root]

Yeah, the fight most of people are struggling with in Mythic ahah

[lofty depot]

Wrong

[leaden birch]

stix ain't a wall anymore

[lofty depot]

That fight is slam CDs and it doesn't matter

[leaden birch]

or maybe it is

[lone root]

Tell that to the crazy balldriver in my raidgroup amte

[lofty depot]

That fight isn't a dps check

It's a brainpower check

[leaden birch]

we're progging sprocket and I can promise you that stix and sprocket will be hard IQ checks

[lofty depot]

U send signet with ur cds at like 115 and 330

Very pog

If u send hoc at 115, it doesn't align at 230 or w.e. so ur sending it natty at 245? With no CDs maybe idk

But that shit doesn't align unless u CD pull maybe

Soooo math

Anyway, every other dight

U always trinket at 0, 2m and 420

Soooooo ur holding hoc regardless

And getting the same signet presses

[lone root]

So if i get you right, since in a raid context we always have to keep CA for convoke, playing HoC means hold it anyway so it is not a real gain that it is a 90second CD, i got that part

[lofty depot]

(if ur CA/convoking at 330 ur playing wrong)

[lofty depot]

Yes

[lone root]

But, HoC does give more mastery than Signet, so even if i do hold HoC for 30second and use it at the same timing i would do with a Signet, how come this be a loss of DPS when i got more Mastery during a damage window ?

[fallow yarrow]

how is Best in Slot weapon the best? It has no stats boost other than the weapon use on it

[lofty depot]

U could be ca/convoking at 150 otherwise but it's still the same timing

[lofty depot]

Idk, maff

Hoc is 15s, signet is 20 surely

[craggy sonnet]

sim it in top gear

[modern cradle]

signet does go 5 sec longer

[lofty depot]

It random procs

Read the green text dawg

[lone root]

Yeah, 5sec longer of stat when not in an eclipse with no dmg cd doesnt feel like it's better than having 10% more mastery during the 14sec where dmg matters yknow. But is a feeling there

[lone root]

I'll try that thanks mate, is there a problem with HoC from Droptimizer ?

[severe hollow]

not sure if its known here already, but apparently there is a bug with raidbots where the added item dont have the ilvl you added them on

[fallow yarrow]

i read that shit. so that random proc with a cooldown is greater than have int, mast, and haste on all the time

[lofty depot]

Idk if it's still a thing or he reverted the change and fixed it

[severe hollow]

ah possible ye

[craggy sonnet]

idk .. sometimes raidbots puts out some weirdly random results. especially with multiple talent sets etc. cant really put my finger on it

[lofty depot]

So it should work besides the matrix stuff

[craggy sonnet]

maybe they caught a bugged state with their droptimizer tho?

[lofty depot]

Apparently

[craggy sonnet]

no idea what time your screenshot translates to

[fleet hound]

After reading your conversations atm, since in not a raider en Will not kill gally myth. Signet sounds like a good pick for first dubblon

[lofty depot]

Sure

[craggy sonnet]

if not killing myth gally also means not killing myth oab

[fleet hound]

Yeah wont kill that on myth either 😅 thats what i meant

[lofty depot]

Generally speaking dinaring heroic items is banned

[lone root]

Dinared Jastor cuz will never have it other way

[lofty depot]

I think jastor and maybe mugz might be exceptions

Sheug

[lone root]

Yeah Mugz was pretty high too. Jastor was like 2% and Mug'z was like 1.6

I cannot understand how a crit passive trinket is that strong as balance but eh, i'm not the scientist here

[fleet hound]

Hurts to pick a hc item, but guess jastor and mug is that good on hc also

[craggy sonnet]

cuz its crazy overbudget

same goes for jastor

[sudden pawn]

clear mythic and u wont have to pick heroic items

[lofty depot]

So true

[sudden pawn]

12% buff soon in raid + everyone is 700 ilvl

[lofty depot]

Actually not true

I took hkezan

Cuz mage is goated

[sudden pawn]

if u cant find a random guild full clearing then idk bald perhaps

[lofty depot]

H kezan, mmugz, mkezan

Type shit

[fleet hound]

In to bad at raiding and no time , casuall m+ Andy around 3,3k atm

[sudden pawn]

US 500 guilds are clearing the raid raiding 1 day a week

im sure u can find a lil time if u care

[lone root]

Anyway thanks for the explanations Arctic, i got things better now. Will try to sim it in TopGear by manually add it to understand where the issue can came from

[sudden pawn]

if not then who cares

[subtle mica]

everyone taking bis?

[maiden pasture]

everyone simming and taking the best item for their char

[pallid bay]

picking based on fun factor

[subtle mica]

bis only giving me 10k dps inc compared to crafted 2h, wanted bigger

[digital berry]

Have you simmed embellishment swaps ?

[subtle mica]

yes

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gnFJQHT26Wj4jMQTfhs2Zj

[digital berry]

10k is… suspiciously low

[digital berry]

Put some sockets on that jastor

[subtle mica]

oh yeah i just got that from vault forgot

that wouldnt have changed anything tho?

[digital berry]

No

Idk people have been getting cooked sim results today

For me bis was a 1.7% increase when simmed before patch

[trail anvil]

which gem should i put into my head piece that has a prismastic socket , culminating , quick onyx or masterful emerald? or something different , setup for raiding

[lucid olive]

elusive blasphemite innit

[digital berry]

The mainstat should be mov speed

[subtle sail]

You're so based holy

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-true-what-a-nice-true-true-pizza-morgan-freeman-gif-9911910826150230625

[hot laurel]

whatever it is that I sim, it shows the same result haha

[digital berry]

Try simming the bis at a lower ilvl, the cap before the patch, and see if that gives weird results

[lucid olive]

the crafted gear in the results is actually 687 and not 681

open the top result in quick sim

copy the addon input

[dire plinth]

is beam typically last in kick priority since its a min CD? in pugs should I generally wait for single kicks to go off first?

[lucid olive]

its 45s if you manage to kick something

[fervent merlin]

Depends how ur group wants to use it

[exotic knot]

guys i have haste mastery neck and ring hc with avoidance, is it worth to change them with crafted once? sims says i have to craft but is it worth to drop 1500 avoidance for m+ 17+?

[dire plinth]

ok ty

[lofty depot]

Avoidance is fake

[exotic knot]

better craft and get more stamina then?

[lofty depot]

More DPS >

U need to survive press bear

[calm rock]

How do i sim Boomkin for M+?
Is there a custom api?

[digital berry]

1t5m or mdt sim

[calm rock]

Ty

[digital berry]

Generally working under the assumption that a single target dps gain translates to aoe aswell

[tiny thunder]

can we use dslice in riadbots or should i go with 5 targets 1min to simulate m+

[lucid olive]

none of them

[digital berry]

Dslice doesn’t work

Also refer the message literally above yours

[livid jay]

@pallid bay how is your website doing i could really use it rn

[lucid olive]

he gave it to vinter and vinter gave up on it

[jolly delta]

its more complicated than expected

[livid jay]

xD

[jolly delta]

im hoping to finish it by next week

[livid jay]

u the goat

[jolly delta]

like, I already have a working version

[pallid bay]

[jolly delta]

but it works by mistake

[ionic oak]

Thats a W

[jolly delta]

so maybe we don't release that

[livid jay]

when we play hoc + bis do we use that one bis like i put it in above screenshot?

[jolly delta]

thats just cause I want it to work for all spells, not just incarn, convoke and treants

[pallid bay]

[lofty depot]

Yes let me map out my 8 wrath presses

[digital berry]

Cut off spell names in the sc

[jolly delta]

or rather, I want it to work for all talents, not just cotd

[digital berry]

It’s just colorful lines

[leaden lark]

Hey guys, is there a well known bug with the wax ?

it not giving the right amount of versa

[jolly delta]

im talking about bear/feral/resto

[bright tiger]

Is "Elemental Focusing Lens" still BiS for Embellishments? I have a mythic weapon but considering crafting one for better stat alignment...that aside...based on Archon it seems people are still using Writhing Armor Banding and Ascension. 🤔

[lofty depot]

Disgusting

[digital berry]

But generally you use bis with second ca and then on cd with tree/foe as long as hoc and cds are above 30 sec cd

[lofty depot]

I don't think it's bis regardless and we don't look at archon here

[livid jay]

should be in?

[lofty depot]

It's not

[livid jay]

dafaq

its on mine

[digital berry]

Oh it’s mobile issues

If you put the phone in landscape you can see them

[lofty depot]

Yea but I ain't doing that

[livid jay]

😄

[bright tiger]

Ok, I know there are differing opinions around Archon...I just use it as a data source not the only source.

Maybe I'm missing how best to sim embellishments in Raidbots.io...just add multiple of the same crafted pieces with different embellishments and use Top Gear?

[lofty depot]

Embellishments are largely shit

That's why u can see people running ascension and it not mattering what so ever

[digital berry]

I don’t think that’s how you’re meant to use it tbh

[bright tiger]

ok, i just figured i'm recrafting my 2 crafted pieces and thought i'd add on something since i have nothing on at the moment.

[lofty depot]

Dusk cuz vers maybe helps

Elemental focus does piss all

[bright tiger]

good to know

[digital berry]

In raid at least, you want to use hoc ca trees with every convoke, leaving you to use bis when you can line it up with trees, ofc after the second tree ca combo

[ionic oak]

I went with vers because arctic told me and i trust arctic.

[bright tiger]

👍 ty for help

[digital berry]

First mistake

[ionic oak]

Lol

[digital berry]

He doesn’t even play balance

[bright tiger]

😆

[ionic oak]

Damn mage traitor for reals

[lofty depot]

Type shit

[wind island]

should i buy Jastor or Mug first?

[ionic oak]

You went double lens or wah

[lofty depot]

Imagine being so good I don't have to play boomkin to know what u rats suck at and fix ur gameplay

[ionic oak]

Myth?

[digital berry]

I went 1 dust 1 dawn for the memes

[wind island]

Hero

[lofty depot]

I've ascended

[digital berry]

SIM it and pick highest probably

[ionic oak]

Whichever sims higher

[digital berry]

But because it’s heroic i would pick jastor

Since its easier to get a jug in raid

It drops more often

[wind island]

Jastor is 1.8% mug is 1.3%

[ionic oak]

I thought about that. Mix and matching.

[ionic oak]

There it is

[tacit oriole]

I’ve seen more jastor drops to mugs trinket. Like a 6-1 ratio

[digital berry]

Crazy useful real stats

[feral carbon]

best-in-slots is any good on hero track?

[digital berry]

Not compared to crafted

[ionic oak]

Nah

[leaden lark]

So the blazikon wax is definitely bugged: sometimes it gives the full value, sometimes it doesn't

where should i go to discuss the issue ?

[loud kettle]

I suspect pvp scaling

But you'd just make a bug report in game

[lofty depot]

"BIS"

[leaden lark]

Against the PVP dummies it gives me 4000 and not 4400

and not the half value of 2233

[scarlet tapir]

how much gilded does a normal boss give?

thats not last 2

is it 10 or 15

[loud kettle]

0

[scarlet tapir]

ok

a normal mythic boss

[meager storm]

10 i think

[scarlet tapir]

and by normal i mean a boss comprehended between boss 1 and boss 6

[loud kettle]

10 for a mythic boss that's not the last 2 yea

[digital berry]

Never understood why it’s so few

You telling me oab and a random +8 key give the same amount ?

[copper magnet]

to craft a new 681 item, does it take 90 crests (60+30)?

[lofty depot]

Wait til I tell u a 11 delve that takes 6 minutes gives 15 runed

[slender dragon]

are you guys still simming rookery route ? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5jRodrc5zwRCwNmNbCvFY2 its seems a bit weird for me idk why

[lofty depot]

What's "weird"

Love asking questions then going afk

[slender dragon]

im here

[lofty depot]

...

[loud kettle]

It just looks like a sim idk

Is there something I'm missing

[slender dragon]

like almost none boomy play stormriders fury on tr/ or top io

[left hazel]

worth me changing all my gems since haste vers gems is simming like 7k higher 😂 ?

[lofty depot]

1. Raw numbers mean dick all
2. 0.3% differences are fake

[lofty depot]

@slender dragon plz read aswell

[slender dragon]

yes i know blue changes are in the error range

[dire latch]

when simming wax, is it simming with perfect uptime of standing in the candle thing for the extra bonus? Because I'm simming 2 trinkets and they are identical damage-wise

[loud kettle]

Mastery is simming as same dps for you

[dusk echo]

Whats the bis trinket setup assuming no bandit/mug myth track availability? I saw some sims for all variants today, but they look kinda suspicious

[lofty depot]

What looks suspicious about it

[dusk echo]

Skardyn simming higher than hc hoc

[lofty depot]

Which in cases you should be simming yourself with possible trinkets to find which is bis

Skaedyn is good

[loud kettle]

Some sims are being weird

[lofty depot]

Got buffed

[loud kettle]

Oh I immediately thought of skardyns grace gg

[proper sinew]

Skardyn got buffed and it also doesn't require to be picked up

[dusk echo]

How did it get buffed?

[proper sinew]

number bigger, orb fly to you

[copper magnet]

to craft a new 681 item, does it take 90 crests (60+30)?

[lofty depot]

If u haven't crafted it yet, yes

[copper magnet]

Rip

[dusk echo]

So in a nutshell blazikon wax + skardyn is the answer to my first question xd

[craggy furnace]

so propably a question that you get asked a lot but house of cards with cartel chips or mug moxie jug? i already have signet

[lofty depot]

Signet likely better than one of them

[lofty depot]

If neither are mythic track probably mugz but it's a sim it question

[craggy furnace]

both heroic to be honest

[tribal phoenix]

craft wep max level or bis myth?

[lofty depot]

If u can get bis myth it is good

[tribal phoenix]

thanks

[pale whale]

should I buy a hc jastor to go with my cyrce's?

[zealous river]

How to fix it?

[pale whale]

I am progressing mythic one armed atm

[zealous river]

Why is it showing on ly agi and str

[pale whale]

use the item out of combat

[lofty depot]

Read the green text

[zealous river]

Oh

thanks

[meager storm]

[pale whale]

so it says on balance discord that jastor is 4th on list but its quite high on the wowhead guide? is it true that you never replace cyrces until the nerf it/

[meager storm]

u never replace it

u could sim urself and see whats better for u

[pale whale]

sigh

[scarlet tapir]

i just replaced it

😸

[meager storm]

if u dont have a hoc maybe waiting for OAB kill to get hoc is better than getting heroic jastor

[digital berry]

I don’t think the list is in order of importance

[lofty depot]

Deportance?

[digital berry]

Is that a real word ?

[cloud cedar]

Yes

[junior stirrup]

so i guess BiS shares a cd with trinket

how can i find out how to use properly?

[scarlet tapir]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gn6v4mNBVcYqPpGT?fight=38&type=damage-done @pallid bay

what happened here bro

why do we have some random aug shit

almost invalidating the log

[haughty moon]

Can someone clarify the behavior of solar beam, barkskin, renewal, and wild charge to me in simple terms. From what I can tell these are all off global abilities. My cast times are longer than a standard wow global, if I spam one of these abilities during my cast, does it just queue it and I clip my gcd? If that’s true, is it the case that I should only be weaving these after an instant cast?

[potent cargo]

Idk what ring is even being referenced

[spice pelican]

Personally I’ll cast until I think I might actually die. If I feel I can’t get the cast off then I’ll barkskin/wild charge out of the way mid cast. The same idea for renewal and solar beam tbh

[lofty depot]

if u cast starfire and spam say wildcharge yea it clips it

[drifting nova]

you know the ring

[lofty depot]

then u could cast like surge or dots while flying

[spice pelican]

True refresh those dots

[lofty depot]

beam a little weird cuz it cancels cast i think

[pseudo trout]

Someone sanity check my droptimizer. By this calculation I should not get House of Cards or Jug but get a WAIST instead??

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gc2QnrwBWDmtpc7c49TJYr

[haughty moon]

Yes that’s what was confusing me. Solar beam feels a lot more responsive to me than the other global and I’m not understanding why

[digital berry]

Raidbots is having a tantrum

[slim iris]

Your default spell queue is 400ms so if you cast them .4 seconds before a cast is over they will go off. Some abilities are good to have /stopcasting macroed to in case you need to like skin or kick fast

[haughty moon]

That’s just behavior unique to solar beam then

[digital berry]

Idk if that sim is accurate

[pseudo trout]

me either, idk what to do

lol

[digital berry]

Wait to sim when they announce some fixes for it I guess

Ilvl is just not showing properly

[pseudo trout]

oh the site is bugged?

[digital berry]

Im on mobile so i cant tell, what kinda belt you got on

[pseudo trout]

I was thinking Jastor or House...

[pseudo trout]

sec

[lofty depot]

i might actually have a stopcasting macro on beam

so maybe when test

[digital berry]

Just need to know ilvl

[pseudo trout]

665

[digital berry]

Yeah the sim probably thinks your belt is much lower ilvl

No way you get a 6% dps increase from a same track belt

Also the sim thinks you’re 649 ilvl

[pseudo trout]

yea i saw that wtf

I re did it

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iUKiNtNtAxbKVXv7Ttmr8A

this looks better.

So...Jaster i guess?

[digital berry]

I still wouldn’t trust sims atm too much

If you can wait to use dinar I would

[pseudo trout]

ok fair

were halfway through sprocket so im thinking jaster because who knows if we kill gally mythix but we will get one armed THEN i get house of card mythic track

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-cat-meme-insanity-losing-grip-gif-2901353152573298214

[ivory jacinth]

My sims for upgrades seem to be the same again as before turbo boost update

[delicate perch]

😮

Me when everything gains the same ilvl

[cloud plover]

are you surprised

[royal zenith]

yeah I'm surprised

what are you gonna do about it?

[digital berry]

Sims have been broken all day

[ivory jacinth]

Yeah cause earlier today it gave diff readings which shouldnt be truth

[delicate perch]

I’m gunna point and laugh

[digital berry]

Guildy said people in the dev discord are complaining about the same shit

[delicate perch]

[royal zenith]

I can deal with that

ezpz

[cloud plover]

yea theyre awful

[delicate perch]

Link the sims that show that

[cloud plover]

sim new ilvl HoC, 40k dps downgrade

[digital berry]

Trust me sims have been fucked up all day, some equipped pieces of gear 8/8 are simming as 590 ilvl or smth and it’s showing insane dps gains from random shit when you droptimizer

[royal zenith]

does that badge say boobs?

that's sooooooooo hilariousssss

[delicate perch]

Using droptimizer in 2025

[digital berry]

Crafted gear is also simming higher then it should

[ivory jacinth]

dont have the one from earlier today anymore, but in essence for me it wasnt valueing some 684 items in combo with the option of taking a hc jastors, it showed my equipped gear as BIS, which it hasnt in the past, and now 5 hours later it gives the same readings again as before turbo boost.

[digital berry]

you can check your history of sims if you are logged in

@lofty depot which delve was the super fast one

[lofty depot]

dread pit

fungal, dreapit or undermine

depends on the day

right now can do dreadpit in 4 mintues

[digital berry]

where is that one

[ivory hinge]

Hey, by any chance anyone know what spell or ability that takes you out of moonkin form when in combat?

[lofty depot]

hover over the doors and find out

[dense steeple]

arctic im sure youre dumb questioned out after seeing the last hour or so

but do i run signet or hoc in keys

[lofty depot]

yes

[cold abyss]

Is anyone using the Synergistic Brewterializer and noticed that hitting it with a moonfire macro sometimes bugs out the spell where you can't cast it?

[lofty depot]

infact no one is using it

[cold abyss]

fair enough, it was simming quite high but ended up replacing it with something else because of the bug

[drifting nova]

run halls of chess yes

[digital berry]

couldnt tune in yesterday, how did prog go

[lofty depot]

yea, it doesnt use a global in the sim to proc it

[digital berry]

damn not bad not bad

[dense steeple]

first real night on it

we had a night last week where we just kinda threw ourselves at the boss with no real strat intended except "see mechanic pog"

[digital berry]

idk if that strat works for mugzee ngl

since half the fight is assignments

[lofty depot]

u dying to funny people not soaking like my guild

[supple haven]

I saw that edit

[lofty depot]

it aint me big dawg

[dense steeple]

not particularly tbh

like yeah theres a few here and there

but the big issue right now is not dying in cages

idk what the plan is going to be but we had like an hour last night after raid where a bunch of us just sat and discussed what was happening and how we should handle it with our comp

"do raid plan" someone dies
"do it this way instead" someone dies
"try this on this next pull" cages still die

[lofty depot]

cage dies, someone missed yell at someone

[dense steeple]

the cage is dying cause theyre getting frost speared xd

i sniped 3 people in a row personally

[digital berry]

wait what

how many people do you have assigned to cages

[dense steeple]

like 2?

like 2 each i mean

[digital berry]

they just not killing fast enough>

[dense steeple]

seems that way

idk whats going on i just follow orders

[delicate perch]

whoever goes in just needs to kill at the right time

might take a few pulls

[dense steeple]

it'll be figured out for raid tonight for sure

we dont normally have an hour long chat where we discuss our options

so honestly, if we keep up the good prog, we could still kill it this week

[lofty depot]

were in a unique position cuz we have a lot of mages

but we only do like 8m dam to any 1 goon

[dense steeple]

yeah we have one mage

and hes not hopeful

or firedup

[digital berry]

damn dont do ur mage dirty like that

they are just there to spread ignites

[dense steeple]

damn i better tell him hes the wrong spec then

[digital berry]

oh lmao

[dense steeple]

gotta say i was absolutely fucking on that 40% pull tho

[livid jay]

Guys what are we precasting on mythic gally

Or more like

[digital berry]

yeah fire mage can tp around while goons are about to come out and it wil spread ignite on the goons making it easier for the people inside to kill fast

[livid jay]

What are your first 5 seconds of the fight

[dense steeple]

the same opener i always cast

[digital berry]

everyone chatting in here is on mugz

unless arctic killed it already but last i checked he hadn't

[dense steeple]

yeah some of us are still dogshit at the game

[livid jay]

We were choking on last cages cause we were not healthy enough from bomb soaks before and from ice boots on monday

[dense steeple]

dont know what mythic gally looks like

[livid jay]

Today we almost 1shit mugzee

Killed it after a couple pulls

[digital berry]

yeah i mean thats what happens when the whole raid gets a gigantic ilvl infusion

[dense steeple]

my washed self is only 6/8M bro. only one night on mugz

[livid jay]

The ilvl increase helped soooo much it's crazy

[lofty depot]

u spying on me?

[digital berry]

we have 105 pulls on mugz hopefully it dies today or tomorrow

17.9 best tho

[dense steeple]

wtf

[digital berry]

i watch you when you sleep

[livid jay]

Then you are probably dying to the same stuff we were and it should be much easier now

[dense steeple]

im 30 pulls in and almost caught up

[digital berry]

funny you say that

since the fight starts at 40%

[delicate perch]

it starts when you pull the boss

[dense steeple]

[delicate perch]

[livid jay]

Ok but anyone with actual input for gally opener?

[dense steeple]

yeah hit the standard opener and suffer

[digital berry]

go check some logs idk why would the opener be different/

[livid jay]

U cant

Or well, I cant

[dense steeple]

why cant you

[livid jay]

U are closer to boss so u can't precast on 4-5

[delicate perch]

ya I just copped the loss and stood there

[meager storm]

3 wraths

[livid jay]

And then 1 second after the pull the boss jumps in you need to disengage out

[delicate perch]

not risking that on prog

[dense steeple]

im gonna prepull it like i do on heroic

[livid jay]

3 wraths into disengage into dots into CDs?

[dense steeple]

and blame the warlock pet

[livid jay]

It kills u if u prepull

[delicate perch]

ya you're dead bud

fyrak level pre pull trolling

[dense steeple]

madge cause you didnt think of it first

[delicate perch]

[digital berry]

can we stop pretending the prepull does jack shit

[dense steeple]

^

[digital berry]

bro is worried about losing out on 2 wraths and a starfire worth of dmg?

[delicate perch]

bro just yaps about he's still doing prepull at the risk of dying then agrees it's not worth anything

orange names

[lucid olive]

soma L oria

[dense steeple]

idk seems like you fell into the bait as usual

[delicate perch]

actually laughed at that jfc

[royal zenith]

You’re all stinky

Just saying

[delicate perch]

NAH UH

[dense steeple]

and youre a dirty traitor

[royal zenith]

Im coming back home

[dense steeple]

prove it

[royal zenith]

Next week

[delicate perch]

you're swapping off dragon to boomkin?

[royal zenith]

I need to grind some ilvl

Yeh

I dont like devoker and I am shit at it

[pallid bay]

What's there to input

[delicate perch]

started from the top now you're here I guess