#balance

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delicate perch
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post a log of that happening

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because I highly doubt it is

loud kettle
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they are just afk waiting for the mobs to all stack, press beam (wait a phantom gcd) enters eclipse and then presses moonfire for the first time

delicate perch
lofty depot
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slow to dot is the usual case

delicate perch
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that's what I expect is happening

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first dot at 35s

unkempt crescent
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its my first cast, always

lofty depot
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first cast 20 seconds into combat

unkempt crescent
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and i even give tank a bit of time to gather but inevitably one turns

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and tries to attack me

delicate perch
orchid ember
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You have plenty of time to dot mobs on those pulls you mentioned

delicate perch
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meld off the insane moonfire aggro or

unkempt crescent
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ive been melding

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but i got what i needed ty

orchid ember
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Boomy? Ripping threat?

unkempt crescent
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appreciate the help!

delicate perch
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you just gotta be aggressive with dotting

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if you know tank is pulling right side first

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stand on left side and dot those

lofty depot
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i mena boomy can rip thread, funny tank aggro

delicate perch
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so even if you get aggro they come through the tank

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funny dh tank aggro* laff bozo class

slim iris
digital berry
rocky crag
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how do you even play boomy

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like

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after wrathing two times are you guys just dotting all adds w moonfire before cd

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or do you cd first

lofty depot
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did u read the prio list?

rocky crag
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i c

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but like how many do you dot

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do you aim to dot them all??

lofty depot
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re read the moonfire line again

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did u read it?

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please confirm

rocky crag
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it doesnt specify

lofty depot
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it does

rocky crag
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so if you have like 20 mobs you want to dot them all??

lofty depot
rocky crag
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bestie just say yes or no lol

lofty depot
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this time for sure

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maybe ur a coder and need it written in an if then else statement

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one sec

rocky crag
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bruh what

lofty depot
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dot 20 mobs?
if live 6 seconds or more
yes
else
no
end

rocky crag
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why are you just full out being an ass LMAO

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(genuine question)

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did you have a bad day or sm

lofty depot
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well i thought the first few were genuine too

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but then i thought u couldnt read

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so i started helping more

loud kettle
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need to adjust for melee brain

lofty depot
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but now im not sure

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think its more

loud kettle
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You just dot everything that doesn't instantly die

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Or more accurately "that'll live for 6+ seconds"

rocky crag
lofty depot
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🙂

rocky crag
lofty depot
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that is what that line says

loud kettle
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Don't need to enter eclipse first

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Thats for nerds (noobs)

lofty depot
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if u do the funny tech

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well its not really "tech"

rocky crag
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arctic you're just not being helpful, you're being insanely passive aggressive and weirdly pointing out what realm i'm on and other irrelevant information

loud kettle
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yea i mean if you can prepull it might as well but just dont bother tbh

rocky crag
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i'm a feral main idk how many i'm supposed to dot lol

loud kettle
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a little cancel ng tech

lofty depot
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again

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the line clearly states, if they live longer than 6 seconds

rocky crag
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sure! i know now :)

lofty depot
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hm

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also, to clarify. is moonguard not the rp server?

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i forget

rocky crag
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it is! but it also has a really friendly community :p

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a lot of people who play on MG don't rp

lofty depot
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ok no problem, just making sure im making fun of the correct thing

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carry on

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that was needless rude, i apologize

lucid olive
lofty depot
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fuck, i forgot to post it

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HAHAHAHHAHAHA

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yea it was

loud kettle
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Of course you nat 20 on a feral player man

lofty depot
loud kettle
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Dice is weighted

lofty depot
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should make a rule that gamz has to interact to stop the interaction

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surely that might help

lofty depot
unkempt crescent
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is anyone willing to do a log review

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of a mediocre balance

lofty depot
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rolls d20

loud kettle
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Arctic is always willing

lofty depot
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shoreeeeeeeeee

loud kettle
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He log reviews for fun, but it comes at a price

lofty depot
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might cause mental damage

loud kettle
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The info will be good though...

lofty depot
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where sunfire

unkempt crescent
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Didn’t say it was perfect!

lofty depot
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gj keeping dreamstate poggers

unkempt crescent
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I’ve worked on that one. But ya forgetting sunfire sucks. I get overwhelmed with shit happening and inevitably fuck something up horribly

lofty depot
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dont do that

unkempt crescent
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I’ve gotten better with defensive

unkempt crescent
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Or was that when I died

lofty depot
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u died

unkempt crescent
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I think I just died there natty

lofty depot
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it says stopped behind that cast

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so doubt

loud kettle
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Thoughts on my new cook? 0 mastery dotless build

lofty depot
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doubt

unkempt crescent
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Good comms

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So I survive if not casting??

loud kettle
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It silences u if ur casting

unkempt crescent
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Ya in this case

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It killed me

lofty depot
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dot more

loud kettle
lofty depot
unkempt crescent
lofty depot
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it does more damage to u when u get disrupted, surely

lofty depot
unkempt crescent
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Phhh ok

loud kettle
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As a feral player i want to die if that interrupts me anyway

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goodbye convoke

lofty depot
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stop cast or let it ride and pray?

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btw, u did get impaled twice

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so that do be hurting aswell

loud kettle
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stopcasting last second is the move but also dont get yourself in that position, I just let myself get interrupted as I'm pretilted

unkempt crescent
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Ya I have some horrid rng

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If anyone’s getting fucked it’s dolma

lofty depot
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1 its a bad entry into incarn

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  1. idk im probably just not pressing it there
maiden pasture
unkempt crescent
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How come hold?

maiden pasture
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Why press? Low value usage

lofty depot
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just because u have it doesnt mean u need to press it

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u have 100 seconds until the next one comes

maiden pasture
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Sitting on a charge as druid is not like sitting on a CD as another class

lofty depot
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so at 3:22 is 60seconds, u still had 40 seconds til ur next one

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where instead u dont have it

unkempt crescent
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Sorry let me clarify - I don’t understand the screenshot before that one

unkempt crescent
lofty depot
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then u used another here

maiden pasture
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There's not many mobs there

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It's not a good value incarn

lofty depot
loud kettle
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its basically just 1 mob at that point ye

lofty depot
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the amount of hp left on those mobs is very little

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compared to the next pack ur gonna pull

unkempt crescent
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Ok i understand

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Ty

lofty depot
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weather its the lynx pack or the knight+priest

unkempt crescent
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That was just suleyman at 45%

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And I used it

lofty depot
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300m vs 900m

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well yea

unkempt crescent
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Understand

lofty depot
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generally spekaing, i just dont send in the middle of packs

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unless its like the double at the start of the dungeon

unkempt crescent
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Oh ya I’m agreeing just making sure I get it

lofty depot
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so at 3:55

unkempt crescent
lofty depot
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very bad one

lofty depot
unkempt crescent
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This is upstairs pack right?

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Ya I regret using that one

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Immediately

lofty depot
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uhhhh to the right yes

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after the lynx

unkempt crescent
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Ya ok that’s the one

lofty depot
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normally u dont need to dot all those uhhh neophytes

unkempt crescent
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Oh good

lofty depot
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but u do no damage cuz u dont have incarn

unkempt crescent
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That’s a nightmare

lofty depot
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generalyl ur dotting a lot of them

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but they usually die fast aswell

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they lived for like 20 seconds hm

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so its like a 99% thing to press FOE on cd

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this is that 1%

unkempt crescent
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LOL

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It’s wowanalyzer trauma

lofty depot
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is ok-ish

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this tid bid ive seen a few times but is the more agressious one. You dont need to full send your asp at the end of ur eclipse. Here u have no asp going into eclipse and then drop starlord and only have 1 stack forever

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very slow casts

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idk about the timing on this

unkempt crescent
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what is asp

rancid surge
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astral power

unkempt crescent
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astral power?

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ah ok

lofty depot
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idk if ur incarn isnt up til 716 cuz the math isnt mathing on the timeline

unkempt crescent
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interesting, i definitely make a point to do that so good to know that i dont need to dump asp

lofty depot
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its within ur interest to not dump in some cases

unkempt crescent
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because there might be movement or why?

lofty depot
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like pressing 1 is usually fine because u dont want to overcap while getting into eclipse

unkempt crescent
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right

lofty depot
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movement, end of eclipse, starlord stack timing, ye

unkempt crescent
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what if asp is close to max and im close to end of eclipse

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still dont dump?

unkempt crescent
lofty depot
lofty depot
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dump is meant as like to empty the tank

unkempt crescent
lofty depot
unkempt crescent
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yup, i understand

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i cant recall tbh

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gotta record my runs from now on

lofty depot
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yea easier to track

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having a gcd tracker good too

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thing happened here aswell but opposite

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its always foe before

rancid surge
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I do it but I'm not sure on the reason

unkempt crescent
grizzled glen
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As a non raider these dinar choices can suck my nuts

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u telling me this HC ring is the best I can get

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bruv

lofty depot
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in that picture the incarn is between the end of the starfire so free gcd, and starfall which then is the gcd. but u would rather it be gcd'd either on the foe or after it

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basically its wasted time at the start there

lofty depot
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u can usually get a 3rd starfire at the end there

unkempt crescent
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where is this

lofty depot
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pack after 1st boss

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u used meld at 759 for the purify thing on light spawn, itw as up

unkempt crescent
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got it, ok thank you

lofty depot
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likely just not thinking about funny dps gain

unkempt crescent
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no, im not quite at the point yet where i use shadowmeld like that, but i am trying

lofty depot
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tahts a lot of wraths tho

unkempt crescent
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on the topic of shadowmeld, quick side note aout mechagon first boss, i dont understand why shadowmeld is so inconsistent on the knock up from tank. i meld and dont move, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt, is it cus ofmy dots?

lofty depot
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oh ur still in incarn

unkempt crescent
lofty depot
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also, ive seen it a few times

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dont foe before the eclipse

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oh u get to learn cool tech

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if ur gonna incarn like such, u dont have to actually moonkin for first

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you can just press incarn, it puts you into an "improved moonkinform"

lofty depot
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maybe it doesnt matter as much cuz its been like only 3 times so far and its just u not familiar with said timings yet

unkempt crescent
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yes i am

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one sec let me review the above

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wait why dont FOE before eclipse

lofty depot
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curious if u have a seperate button for vigil, it looked macro'd aswell but shrug.

lofty depot
unkempt crescent
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vigil is macro'd into incarn and tempered potion... and now signet!

lofty depot
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hm

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yea it just does piss healing

unkempt crescent
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cant hurt though right

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also wait so when would i use foe

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i thought it was always before incarn

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OHH before eclipse

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not incarn

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yeah that was something i realized right away

lofty depot
unkempt crescent
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yeah sorry i misread

lofty depot
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right so FOE global before ca, if not then skip right

unkempt crescent
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understood

lofty depot
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its likely fine... its just something that we talked about earlier

unkempt crescent
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the foe post incarn

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?

lofty depot
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i usualy have CD up at the start of that pack rather than at the end

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nah, pressing incarn in the middle of pack like that

unkempt crescent
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oh right right

lofty depot
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the damage is probably fine, u just then dont have it for boss

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most of the time, it sjust on cd at that point already so it might be just a pull/time diff

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but shrug its mostly just the thinking process

unkempt crescent
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but me using foe there after incarn

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thats wrong too no?

lofty depot
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btw for the 2nd boss, u can save ur woes a bit for the movement. generally its wildcharge the big slow circles and woe to run in/out for the hammers/soaks

lofty depot
unkempt crescent
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yeah that makes sense, i realized that and started using wild charge to get outa big jucie circles

unkempt crescent
lofty depot
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yea ur not using wildcharge enough during said boss

unkempt crescent
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ok noted

lofty depot
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which is also curious

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u had it up here

unkempt crescent
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so big problems really are the dotting (knowing when its worth when ti isnt)

lofty depot
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and u dashed instead

unkempt crescent
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and the order of abilities like we discussed

lofty depot
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yea, the prio of abilities

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right same thing here

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its likely ok to send those surges, but incarning when that foe comes up

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theres no rush to press incarn, u have 100 seconds before the next charge

unkempt crescent
lofty depot
lofty depot
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u dont have to press moonkin there, u can just press incarn in bear and it will push u to moonkinform

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we used to do some cool tech with pulsar on raszageth

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maybe i have clip

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KreyGasm bring me back

unkempt crescent
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i understand

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yeah so its cus i was bear -> moonkin

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but i can go bear -> incarn

lofty depot
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yea, wasnt really anything important or used regularly

unkempt crescent
vital hound
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god nothing better than

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opening discord and seeing arctic has sent someone

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600 screenshots

unkempt crescent
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what am i seeing in that second to last one that needs to be fixed

lofty depot
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incarning with foe

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its likely foe was on cd there

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so waiting to use incarn with ur foe

unkempt crescent
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OH

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so i want to line them up

lofty depot
unkempt crescent
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i gotcha

lofty depot
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i proc'd on someone

unkempt crescent
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i was confused cus i didnt see FOE

lofty depot
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😉 that do be the point lol

unkempt crescent
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the random tempered potion and foe?

lofty depot
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oh sorry yea u asked question

vital hound
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arctic you're just not being helpful, you're being insanely passive aggressive and weirdly pointing out what realm i'm on and other irrelevant information

@delicate perch @teal sphinx

lofty depot
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yea bad pot

vital hound
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that was good

lofty depot
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nat 20'd get fucked

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i need to remember to show picture

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cant be me mean for no reason surely

unkempt crescent
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i dont care about mean

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i care about learning

lofty depot
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anyway back to this

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well it wasnt towards u

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i only rolled a 12 :/

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so the pot at 10:52

unkempt crescent
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i dont know what that means but ill take it

lofty depot
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5m later is 15:55

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which is ironically right when that foe is

lofty depot
unkempt crescent
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shouldve held that incarn

unkempt crescent
lofty depot
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and pot and foe wouldve lined up 🙂

unkempt crescent
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but i guess there i didnt even use it with incarn

loud kettle
unkempt crescent
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so the macro is actually good

lofty depot
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ur log review was right at the end of one

unkempt crescent
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i wanna emoji fire on that

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but i cannot

lofty depot
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but maybe if ur not tracking it a lot

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even if u macro'd iit to incarn, it wouldve been off by 1-2 seconds and not pressed

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so its u having to remember its up

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now u dont have it for the first pack thru the door

unkempt crescent
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i just wanted to kill braunpyke i dont like him

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he fucks

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but i understand

lofty depot
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idk tell ur rogue to smack his head harder on the keyboard

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fuggn rat

unkempt crescent
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loool he prob didnt have cds

lofty depot
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neither did u

unkempt crescent
lofty depot
unkempt crescent
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no for sure, i definitely should've held

lofty depot
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maybe u hold that, then u dont have to press incarn at the end there

unkempt crescent
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yeah

lofty depot
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see how the world works in mysterious ways 🙂

unkempt crescent
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and that pull post braunpyke is pretty big too

lofty depot
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well u have incarn after for that top one

full roost
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On a lust pull boss in raid do you incarn x2 or save 2nd incarn for your trees?

lofty depot
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someone should kikc that

unkempt crescent
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i was screeching

lofty depot
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someone should kick that

unkempt crescent
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i have to walkt he dog but i will continue on mobile

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what does stopped mean tho if it hasnt been kicked

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tf doe that mean there

delicate perch
lofty depot
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stupid events doesnt work

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it say fire thingy no hit u

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hm

lofty depot
vital hound
lofty depot
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but the cast was close

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lol i scared

vital hound
lofty depot
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unless the replay doesnt matter then idk

unkempt crescent
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so wait then stopped was interrupted?

lofty depot
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ye

unkempt crescent
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then y r u saying someone should kick that!

lofty depot
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cuz the cast bar was close

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i was scared

unkempt crescent
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LOL gotcha

lofty depot
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for ur life

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u got fireballed and stuff

spice swallow
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is the dinar loot requirement for bosses account wide or character wide

lofty depot
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but then log says u didnt

unkempt crescent
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i cant recall, but i think a heal went off at some point

lofty depot
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so idk, weird timeline

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think u typhooned the greater heal

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shrug

unkempt crescent
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wow im a monster

lofty depot
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big gamer

shy bay
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Asuming having best-in-slots and House of cards/priory Signet, what ist the right Sequence for Single target? Trinket an pull, BIS on 2nd incarn? Delay second incarn for 2kd house of cards and use BIS on 2nd FON alone?

unkempt crescent
lofty depot
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yeet

loud kettle
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triple on-use despair

lofty depot
loud kettle
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i probably do hoc first then signet then bis, but idk how that all lines up

shy bay
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Not talking about triple. I mean either hoc or priory

lofty depot
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hoc first

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want to stack buff

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also lines up better with ca

loud kettle
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hoc is also just a stronger buff than bis

lofty depot
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that doesnt sound bis

shy bay
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BiS then for FON without incarn?

lofty depot
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2nd tres with 2nd incarn with bis

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unless u mean in m+

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then shrug idk

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feelycraft some shit

shy bay
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Tyty

main maple
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Hi, i'm new to balance from resto. I just wanted to know, with Elune's Chosen you dont go into solar eclipse anymore, so do i cast lunar strike even on single target or do i cast wrath?

glacial widget
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2 wrath to get u into ellipse then starfire

lucid olive
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starfire yes

main maple
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ah okay, thanks, so wrath is only used to go into lunar eclipse? Thanks!!!

lofty depot
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whats a sharnie

crisp badger
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does signet sim better than card because it lasts 5s longer? feelshmmman

main maple
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my name 🙂

lofty depot
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o

lofty depot
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stunted grass

lofty depot
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i mean

crisp badger
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oh wtf

lofty depot
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its fuggn 13ilvl higher dawg

crisp badger
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ok my friend ran these sims cuz he has premium

lofty depot
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fix that while ur at it

crisp badger
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i blame him

lofty depot
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id blame him to

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fuggn idiot

crisp badger
lofty depot
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it says weekly

crisp badger
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idk what version even meanss

lofty depot
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thats whats wrong

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make it say nightly

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or latest

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1 is up to date

crisp badger
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what does it mean though

lofty depot
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1 is week behind possible change

crisp badger
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huh

lofty depot
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FUGNAJK SDFHJKLASFHADS

crisp badger
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why would they even have that parameter

lofty depot
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cuz sometimes sim break

crisp badger
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ah

lofty depot
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so u revert to old one

crisp badger
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good ol version control

lofty depot
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just like how stupid nvidia drivers brick my computer

lucid olive
lofty depot
lofty depot
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holy fuck

lucid olive
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i got out of bed at 4pm and took my medication so i'll be going strong for another 4-5 hours before i crash

lofty depot
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gamz is medicated

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ramen w/ chicken or shrimp go

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could make with salmon.... seems odd tho

lucid olive
lofty depot
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so true

lucid olive
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id normally say chicken but some ramen with scampi sounds good as hell

fiery veldt
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which spec is the best for one armed atm rattle or weaver

lucid olive
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rattle probably

lofty depot
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i have cherry tomatoes i add to it

vital hound
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im getting ramen for lunch

lucid olive
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that reminds me i should change the one-armed bandit talents on compendium...

lofty depot
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recruitie hasnt killed oab with weaver

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so its shit

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then again, dakd killed it with EC

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which was also shit

lucid olive
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recruitie worse rank than me on bandit classic

lofty depot
lucid olive
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cooking too much instead of just ripping convoke

lofty depot
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have steaks, but dont feel like dethawing

vital hound
vital hound
lofty depot
meager storm
vital hound
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i leave office, go to deli

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walk around until i come up with idea

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cook said idea

lofty depot
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thats what i do

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but i ask discord for food recommendation

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then drive to said place

lucid olive
lofty depot
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in this case, cook said thing

loud kettle
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ok double on use with control/no control breaks brain very fast

vital hound
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is really something

lofty depot
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actually since aberrus/amirdrassil ive stopped eating out for lunch

vital hound
lucid olive
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also why bitch lying??

lofty depot
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maybe use at 245

lucid olive
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oh, top boss dmg 11.1??

lofty depot
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but feels wrong

lucid olive
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mickey mouse metric

vital hound
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yea on prog

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bozo

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we haven't rekilled lol

loud kettle
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if it was 2 90s on uses

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it would be bing chilling

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but one of them being 2min is awkward

lofty depot
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how about hear me out... we just brought back IFE so we had 1:30-1:45 incarn

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big

loud kettle
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if bis didnt share trinket cd this would go hard

lofty depot
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it went hard on ptr

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pressing it every 15 seconds

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along with shifting

loud kettle
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you could do
tree: 0, 30, 90, 120, 180
ca : 0, 30, 90, ,180
hoc : 0, , 90, , 180
bis : 0, , ,180

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but no

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er we lie about 2min i think

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first charge is back at 1:20, second isnt back until 3:00 gg

digital berry
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right now BiS is used with what? Second trees + ca, and after that together with trees as long as you have over 30 seconds cd on convoke?

lucid olive
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ye

loud kettle
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fixed the hypothetical

digital berry
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where does convoke go with that hypothetical?

loud kettle
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yea so, you just dont play convoke

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100s cd and a 120s cd what the heck man

#

well if its a 3:20 fight then its fine

#

you would just do 0/180

#

if you play 1 minute convoke though...

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0/40/100 hrm

#

youre gonna have to lose a couple seconds of tree/ca cd

#

in order to squeeze convoke inside shorter ca window

digital berry
meager storm
#

cuz its good

digital berry
#

but like 1 of each ? Is that common?

meager storm
#

they sidegrade most of the time

#

i have seen it a lot

digital berry
#

oh yeah true

loud kettle
#

i need to know precisely how many of each cooldown i will use for the fight

digital berry
#

alright i have pre purchased all the mats i will need for my recraft and embellishment switches

loud kettle
#

and then pray there is a neat trick

lofty depot
digital berry
#

yeah I'm restarted and didn't realize

lucid olive
#

embellishments are fake they do not matter

#

as long as you have 2

digital berry
#

if we kill mugzee this week and he drops jug and I get it it's gonna be a BIG week

delicate perch
#

(he won't)

lofty depot
#

and if u do, its not dropping

covert rock
#

What is gonna be a better choice for moonkin with dinar. Priory trinket myth track or house of cards hero?

lofty depot
#

sim it

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suirely 13 ilvl big

covert rock
#

Patchwerk 1 target if i play m+ only?

lofty depot
#

1t5m > fuggn funny route sim

covert rock
#

I never rly know how to sim for m+ optimally

#

Okkk thx

lofty depot
#

"barely optimal" doing it the other way

covert rock
#

Any other good options with dinars for us if we dont raid myth?

#

Gally ring prob not worth it right?

#

I have a 678 haste/mastery ring alr

delicate perch
#

heroic jastors still pre good

#

but

#

sim it smilers

covert rock
#

Ok 😄 i will

#

Just wanted to get some input what yall gonna do with yours (:

delicate perch
#

all depends on your current gear/what bosses you have loot available from

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no mythic bosses makes your choices very limited and kinda bad

covert rock
#

Yeah true that kinda sucks

#

Sadge for m+ players

delicate perch
#

throw in myth track candle/core too just to check

covert rock
#

Alright, thank you!

digital berry
silk shard
#

myth track priory sims higher for me than heroic hoc for 1t5m but i won't have much else to spend with the chips

digital berry
#

best pull 17% pre dinars and 6 ilvls, we can do it fo sho

silk shard
#

rerunning the sim now, but i'll probably just grab h-hoc for the feelscraft afterward along with jastor diamond

digital berry
#

if its anything below 0.5/0.6% id still take hoc just for the ease of use

silk shard
#

yeah that's what i figured

lofty depot
#

emnithy doesnt like damage

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tragic

silk shard
#

i also noticed that signet on-use is based on current stat so if i'm running chaos flask and it's cycling non-mastery i could be self-scuffing

digital berry
#

how the hell do people have haste and mastery that close

#

that a proc can fuck them over

#

i got 15k haste 26k mastery

delicate perch
#

jastors inflates mastery a bit

#

but ya my difference is still pretty wild

#

not having jastors doesn't bring me within any proc

digital berry
#

also myth track signet sims lower then heroic hoc for me

silk shard
#

ascendence embellishment might have also been proccing haste or something idk

delicate perch
#

like 13k vs 23k

silk shard
#

i'm 16.9 vs 24k now but this past week i had to switch off of chaos back to mastery flask

digital berry
#

im so ready to instantly have 300 gilded crests on log in tomorrow

loud kettle
#

surely i didnt screw this up

delicate perch
#

did someone math out how many shitter scrests we need to insta upgrade gear

silk shard
#

yeah right now my sim is showing signet 1.8% higher than h-moxie + h-hoc

digital berry
#

i thought chaos was bis all season

#

does recrafting 2h and 1h cost the same amount of crests?

silk shard
#

idk i'll be mostly living in M+ after tuesday and probably will run hoc for like you said, ease of use

delicate perch
#

probs tettleslul

digital berry
#

if it does then the max amount of gilded crests needed is going to be 450

delicate perch
#

punishment for crafting 1h item

digital berry
#

if you have 90 from this week that means you will need to farm 360, which is 1080 of the lower crests

#

if not you will need 1350

delicate perch
#

I have 15 from this week smilers

digital berry
#

gilded crests are not going to be the bottle neck anyway for most

#

unless you played many alts you will be valor starved to death

dapper shell
#

Hi guys, did they fix that bug if u spend in lunar and press incarn dmg amp doesnt stack?

digital berry
#

yes

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(Or at least it was removed from DG so i assume so )

dapper shell
#

Ye thats why i wonder

digital berry
#

cause upgrading weapon costs so much valor

delicate perch
#

lmfao ya if it's like micky mouse dinars it's so over

#

0/16 ranks laff

digital berry
#

not even worth taking untill you have grinded the rest of your gear to filth

#

have dinars been on ptr? How was it there?

delicate perch
#

don't think these ones have been (?)

digital berry
#

So the quest wasn’t tested properly and it won’t work for a week anyway ThumbsUp

vital hound
#

It's on existing track

digital berry
#

If it’s not 8/8 ima crash out

delicate perch
#

ya I feel like it'll just be a x/8

#

probably 1 KEKLEO

#

or w/e it changes to

digital berry
#

Will find out soon enough

craggy sonnet
#

I think it's not unlikely you buy it at the upg level that it drops from the respective boss

#

So for very rares .. 6/8

vital hound
#

That feels like cope

#

But I'm here for it because it'd be very handy

digital berry
#

Still like 500 valor to max out weapon

#

Im valor broke

#

Ran some quests on Alts to get like 500 valor to trade in

delicate perch
#

that's not really bad

#

how are you not capped laff

craggy sonnet
#

I mean, it's for sure not gonna be 8/8 super charged ilvl

#

Well, you never know.. but

digital berry
#

Capped on valor is nowhere near enough to max everything out

delicate perch
#

lmfao 500 at that 25% taxed trade in

#

value

#

well you need to do the quest

digital berry
#

War bound is taxed too?

vital hound
#

How are you not stone capped tf

#

Login?

delicate perch
#

yes

#

ya not being capped is insane

#

play the game

digital berry
#

Reading comprehension

delicate perch
vital hound
#

Reading? Catch me dead

delicate perch
#

aus schools don't teach us that

digital berry
#

I ain’t got time to run keys and raids on 4 damn toons

delicate perch
#

yea that's on you for playing more than 1 character

digital berry
#

Im capped on main I never touched an alt

vital hound
digital berry
#

But 2k valor ain’t go be enough for 30 upgrades

vital hound
#

hanging out in here

#

get me out

digital berry
delicate perch
#

you need to do 4x bosses or 4x keys at the least

vital hound
#

American check?

delicate perch
#

so now instead of crest upgrading you can farm valorstones in keystones

#

gg

digital berry
#

Living in America, but I’m polish/Italian

vital hound
#

Yea gg

delicate perch
#

don't need to upkeep a house if you degen games

vital hound
loud kettle
#

this is hopeless

digital berry
delicate perch
#

All that effort to do 1m less than an evoker gg

loud kettle
vital hound
#

holy recruitie notepad batman

loud kettle
#

2min convoke is the same you just chop off every 2nd convoke

vital hound
#

@jolly delta where cd planner

loud kettle
#

210s timer just blew it all up

vital hound
#

Yea the trinket timings make it cringe

#

I did big head scratch with signet

digital berry
#

It’s all because of bis

vital hound
#

That shit doa tmrw

#

Yea bis is also cringe

loud kettle
#

the "normal" rules would make it where u get a bis use with absolutely nothing

#

and to "fix" that 1min convoke gets bricked

#

so you have to shift the 3rd trees back instead

#

to give enough room for both

vital hound
#

Doesn't 1min convoke stink

loud kettle
#

well it would be the same with 2min

#

youd still have to shift the 3rd trees back

#

technically you're wasting a ton of cdr in those 210s timers but it doesnt matter cuz you dont lose a use doing that

#

cuz if you sent trees on cd, the fight is ending as trees comes up

#

getting this into an apl isnt looking very promising though, but we will see

craggy sonnet
#

Uh, what is this for

digital berry
#

Fun

craggy sonnet
#

Why 210s

loud kettle
#

im checking every 30s increment atm

#

210s is just particularly cursed

loud kettle
craggy sonnet
#

Ah

loud kettle
#

here is the 180s one

loud kettle
#

rik will eventually get that fast i assume, and the gap is convenient

#

er no

#

nvm

#

120s vs 1:20 got me

#

i think

#

intermission is from 121s -> 158s actually it would work then

#

clean like god intended

lofty depot
#

jsut a few more

loud kettle
#

i did this for feral with like all the trinket cd combos

rocky crag
#

trying to learn balance, how do you guys stay alive??? i'm a feral main and boomie feels so squishy its actually dumb

loud kettle
#

press bear

rocky crag
#

that shit doesnt do like anything compared to feral but ig

loud kettle
#

ur probably night elf too

obsidian girder
#

Or just blame the healer MoonkaVamp

loud kettle
#

can just meld if ur targeted by multiple things at once

#

this is my favorite timer, no nonsense

brave gulch
#

who wins

loud kettle
#

phasedruid

brave gulch
#

please point and laugh at gamz

loud kettle
#

thought we had the cat point and laugh emote in here gg

brave gulch
#

look at my bling

#

I got that shit ON

loud kettle
#

ye

thick umbra
#

we still keeping circlet even with ilvl bump?

ionic oak
#

Yes

#

Artic sleeping smh my head

digital berry
lofty depot
brave gulch
#

ya clip it and ship it

#

your guy is washed

delicate perch
#

Expert btw

lofty depot
#

but we been knowed that

lucid olive
#

????

#

phase flaming me in 2 different discords at same time

#

thats crazy work

lucid olive
#

11 ilvl ahead btw

brave gulch
lucid olive
#

come fight me in europe

#

id smoke your ass on home turf

teal sphinx
delicate perch
#

winning in NA is like redacted

mighty mica
delicate perch
vital hound
obsidian jetty
#

this was before the -15 CA cd keeper talent cook, otherwise it would be longer...

digital berry
obsidian jetty
#

wasn't meant for others to understand garf

lofty depot
#

wall of text with white background

#

flash bang

dull wyvern
#

For those of you that play the other specs too, is it better advised to have a druid for the agil classes and one for the int classes? Or is it easy enough to get all the gear needed on the one chara

digital berry
obsidian jetty
# lofty depot *flash bang*

it's the only thing I keep white background, keeps me awake while doing it. Everything else in life is dark mode

lofty depot
#

obsidian gang

dull wyvern
lofty depot
#

yes

digital berry
obsidian jetty
digital berry
obsidian jetty
#

no idea about bear/resto

lofty depot
#

yea

digital berry
#

Oh didn’t know nice !

lofty depot
#

then again, why would u ever do it on 2 specs

#

m+ is cringe

dull wyvern
#

I'm only now making the chara ready for this week's timewalking to start so going to be way behind on ilvl anyway but I'd like to get to the point where I can complete decent level dungeons on all 4 specs just as a challenge to myself

digital berry
#

Define decent level

dull wyvern
#

Uh 12? Idk how the item level being upped soon is gonna affect levels

lofty depot
#

u can do that with ur eyes closed yea

digital berry
#

You can easily time 12s with shit secondaries

obsidian jetty
#

I'm pretty confident you could do up to around +12-14 on all 4 specs with 1 set of gear this season. With the exception of swapping around 1 or both trinkets.

#

the hard part would be getting the weapon best in slots on mythic, if you cannot do that, you'd have to craft 2 weapons

#

which at this point is also fairly easy, just time consuming

dull wyvern
#

Oh also does the game track what m+s you've done with each individual spec if I wanted to try to do a 12 of every dungeon with each spec? Or will I have to do that myself

obsidian jetty
digital berry
#

It tracks between roles

#

But feral / balance is not tracked in game afaik

dull wyvern
#

As long as raider can do it it'll be fine I'm sure many thanks for the help

digital berry
#

Good luck fren

lofty depot
#

or energy drink

lucid olive
#

kezan and HoC

#

for all 4 specs

pine harness
#

whats considered the best combo to grab with dinars assuming all myth and no vault luck?
bis, moxie and jastor? mainly doing m+ now

ionic oak
#

in pins

#

but prolly bis

#

and then hoc

delicate perch
#

reclear first since BiS probably has lowest amount of people wanting it kappa

pine harness
#

running myth candle + hero funhouse lens atm
sims suggest moxie + funhouse > hoc + candle for me
didn't see pins though, ty

meager storm
#

who tf is this imposter

#

mods

pine harness
#

mb gng

mighty mica
mental plover
#

Mitosis

loud kettle
jade arrow
#

we're cooked

ionic oak
#

so it really is a toss up between lens/dusk/dawn. crazy

lofty depot
#

wcyd

obsidian jetty
jade flume
#

Funny ring goes brr

vale pebble
#

because they cant balance it

#

they wanted it to be relevant and equal to normal-hc ilvl

#

some specs took it off at normal ilvl

#

some keep on mythic

#

same with the last ring we had

#

u will keep it until 1 week before next patch

#

then they will delete it

#

im wearing 2 normal rings over it

#

very epical design

elder remnant
vale pebble
#

if i press arcane i still use spymaster

#

so yea very epic

jade flume
#

Arcane uses the hoc tho right

vale pebble
#

i think my rogue was using transmiter 2 weeks ago

jade flume
#

If u get it

vale pebble
#

and depends on timer

jade flume
elder remnant
#

Arcane uses skardyn core

#

:)

vale pebble
#

no clue what that is

#

i wont lie

jade flume
#

From rookery

#

Bitchass balls trinket

fossil hemlock
#

Rookery trinket. Shoots out balls and until a few days/weeks ago you had to manually collect them

#

Now they slowly drift into you

vale pebble
#

epic

jade flume
#

Man jastor diamond will go so hard tomorrow

#

Gg

vale pebble
#

always keep in mind

#

bandit is very easy

#

whoever gets killed by a flame should get gkicked on the spot

#

hope that hepls

jade flume
#

Always works

ionic oak
fossil hemlock
#

On the other hand, lens does pure ST damage while the secondary stat ones actually contribute on aoe

elder remnant
fossil hemlock
#

And the uptime on the stat ones is very high unless your healers are double amputees

elder remnant
#

but Stix isn't on all stars so who cares about pad

#

:^)

ionic oak
#

so i need to bribe ma healers to make sure im up

#

i like it

elder remnant
#

Yeah

#

the threads are much better tbh

#

overall

fossil hemlock
cloud lion
#

Cant wait to farm 480 crests to upgrade gear before raid

fossil hemlock
#

Log in, convert all your lower crests to max

#

Saves you a few hundred to farm

jade flume
#

Logging in, converting 30 runed crests i saved up, nothing happens, cry, pug m+

fossil hemlock
#

I'm sure you have weathered and carved too

jade flume
#

Nope kek

fossil hemlock
jade flume
#

I can buy 15 gilded on main and nothing on druud

tranquil maple
#

From a pure stats point, a 684 ring is 15 more secondaries than circlet. And because it's 6k mastery we never get to take it off. 😦

lofty depot
#

idk what hte fathoms gives total

cursive ridge
#

in our bible, it says to sim. however - do we sim using patchwerk 5 minute target dummy? or 5 patchwerk target dummy for 5 min?

sudden flame
#

fathomsdweller just provides more than stats a 684 ringwoudl give you

lofty depot
#

but its more than the total

delicate perch
#

numbers can't hurt you

spice flame
#

Is it better to dot everything up first then pop Incarnation: Chosen of Elune, or pop Elune while dotting?

vital hound
delicate perch
vital hound
spice flame
frail crescent
#

Is there an (easy) way to add Top Gear Search items to raidbot sims, such that they are mutually exclusive, like great vault items work?
I want to sim multiple new item options, while potentially changing gems and moving crafted stats/embellishments around, but not clutter the output with the combinations where multiple of the added items are equipped.

frail crescent
#

Aight thanks

iron chasm
delicate perch
vital hound
delicate perch
iron chasm
#

I bet people who care about logs also care about astrology (I’m a Capricorn btw)

vital hound
#

they probs know what maxs nickname on details was during guldan

jade flume
#

Logs is life

obsidian jetty
#

if you want multiple "great vault" in 1 sim not sure you can do that

delicate perch
#

that does sound like what they want

#

probably for dinars I'd assume

obsidian jetty
#

### Weekly Reward Choices

#

adding this to the bottom under you gear, then adding gear normally to the text

iron chasm
#

Best in slot ThumbsUp

delicate perch
obsidian jetty
#

will just create it as a vault item

iron chasm
delicate perch
#

I will just sip on my jug tomorrow sadcat

sudden flame
iron chasm
#

…is it a myth track jug

delicate perch
#

ya it will be

iron chasm
#

Oh thank the gods

obsidian jetty
sudden flame
#

is jastor really 4th priority for balance? holy

iron chasm
#

I’m gonna be m hoc and m bis tomorrow gonna be a bit of a crazy menace

delicate perch
#

imagine being NA raiders laff

iron chasm
jade flume
#

Respect

#

I didnt save shit either

delicate perch
frail crescent
delicate perch
#

and that's doing like 500/300 of the lowest two KEKWHands

iron chasm
jade flume
#

Same

iron chasm
#

I’m a week 1 1h crafter kind of dude

jade flume
#

Didnt do any m+ for a month straight kek

iron chasm
#

Patience is not my mmorpg experience

jade flume
#

Gonna full send next week tho

#

Aint no way i go into raid not fully upgraded

obsidian jetty
#

this will be scuffed sometimes on crafted items

#

and you will need to recraft it in top gear after adding

#

to get the correct stats

delicate perch
#

I'm glad they let us share items to bluesky and facebook

obsidian jetty
#

and by recraft I mean this

iron chasm
delicate perch
#

hey @ facebook friends look at this item I have obtained

vital hound
#

where twitter

iron chasm
#

Soooo true

vital hound
#

utter woke nonsense

iron chasm
#

Like and share this post if you think my armor is cool

delicate perch
frail crescent
hollow mist
#

utter woke nonsense

delicate perch
#

so true

iron chasm
vital hound
livid jay
#

what uptime are yall simming dusk/dawnthread for prog raid?

sudden flame
#

well for me in raid its usually around 70-80% uptime so i sim at 75%

obsidian jetty
#

I sim 70, but it's pretty commonly around 80% for me, with beacon

livid jay
#

alright i'll run 70 ty

#

looking what im buying tomorrow

#

only have 1 crafted item thats not ring or neck tho so only one lining for me xD

#

looks like im buying a best in slots and going dawnthread+focusing lense

#

hoooly this is goated since when does that exist

obsidian jetty
#

idk, I just middle mouse click "find top gear"

fossil hemlock
#

Yeah same

hollow mist
obsidian jetty
#

didn't know it existed, but been using it forever lmao

livid jay
livid jay
#

putting it to Moonfloora on details when i grief too much