#safezone problem

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thin sage
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ive noticed in pvp alot that people will stay around safezones to pvp and immediately run inside if they get shot at.

I feel like a change to safezones could be helpfull where there could be a combat timer system that locks the safezone doors if they get shot or shoot their gun. Or it could remove the safezone protection while on timer.

i do feel like the safezones are very important for the airlocks so they should stay, and pvp shouldnt disrupt moving through the train quickly, so the timer shouldnt be very long but just long enough to prevent spamming in and out the door constantly (like 10-30 seconds)

gilded ravine
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Safezones always have issues. If there was a combat timer upon taking damage then people camping safezone doors have an advantage since they can shoot you the moment you leave the safezone and you will have nowhere to go for cover.

thin sage
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like a sign above the door saying "exiting this safezone will remove trace protection" which could work for worldbuilding as well

gilded ravine
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That implementation wouldn’t help the people running away into safezones issue and punishes you for trying to fight back since it would remove your option of retreating to a safezone

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They’ve tried a lot of solutions for it and the most effective one they had was a 5s timer preventing you from entering a safezone after leaving it. They then removed that since it wasn’t clearly communicated to players and caused confusion/frustration.

thin sage
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thats what they should fix

gilded ravine
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Yes so people would just not shoot back and run into the safezone or be punished for shooting back and lose the option to run into the safezone

thin sage
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yes

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dont shoot back and run into the safezone

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shoot back and lose the ability to use safezones as cover

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because the problem is that people would sit at the door. shoot people around the map, then hide in the safezone when they get shot back at

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then pop back out and do it again

gilded ravine
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That heavily incentivizes just never taking a fight if you are anywhere near a safezone

thin sage
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good

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thats what a safezone is for

gilded ravine
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Id rather people fight back then just run away all the time

thin sage
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which is what they do now

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they run away

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they run into the safezone after shooting you

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imagine you're in the middle of the map

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you get mowed down by some dude from somewhere and he dosent kill you

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you find him and shoot back but as soon as you shoot he runs into the safe zone and just watches you

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then you finally look away and he does the exact same thing

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over and over and over

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thats the problem

lyric meadow
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there is multiple exits to the safezones imo they are fine as is and theres much higher priorities

i see how retreating into them can be annoying but people can do that at their base too

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youll still get doorcamped / people will lurk by there doors to kill passerby even with this change

thin sage
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the risk with lurking in doors is that someone could go deep on your base

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ive gone deep even with the damaging doors (not the insta kill doors)

lyric meadow
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airlocks

thin sage
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yeah?

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you go into one door, they open the next door you go into that door

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i was 3 doors deep

lyric meadow
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if they open the second door and dont kill you they deserve to be deeped

thin sage
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true that

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but theres always that risk with camping around doors

lyric meadow
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i personally make two airlocks on either side of my base

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ill just leave your ass in there

thin sage
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i do an airlock with a window

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so i can blast them inside

lyric meadow
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or push from two sides

or that is also smart

thin sage
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you could also raid the person whos camping in their door

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what counter would there be for someone safezone camping like how i described?

lyric meadow
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go in the under carrige

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or the roof

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or back to the car befofe and make allies

thin sage
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wdym

lyric meadow
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multiple exits to the safezones

thin sage
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not exits

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i dont think you understand what im saying

thin sage
lyric meadow
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youre saying that you dont like how people can go into the safezone when you fight them right outside of it??

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is that not the entire point??? 🤣

thin sage
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they sit outside the safezone and shoot people long range throughout the map

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and then retreat into the safezone when shot back at

lyric meadow
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just dont take fights near the safezone. if they shoot first i get thats annoying but they cant build the game around the behaviour of some players

thin sage
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you are just not good at reading ig

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idk bro

lyric meadow
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bro ive played hours and hours of every playtest and ive never had this problem

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i can read just fine but what you are saying makes no sense

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if they are long range they are far from the safezone

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if you cant kill them quick enough and they run to the safezone its not an issue with the safezone

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if youre getting camped from longe range when you come out just go out a different safe zone

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agree to disagree but dont insult people :/ i can read just fine i just dont agree with what youre saying

thin sage
lyric meadow
thin sage
lyric meadow
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thats going on the fridge

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bro there is a floor below in the under carrige

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and a ladder to the roof

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and a airlock to go back a car

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ive left my opinion. lets leave the post clear for others to give input.

thin sage
thin sage
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the blue dot is someone just playing in the map

lyric meadow
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im not going to argue with you anymore man... your claiming i cant read but youre refusing to see my point

thin sage
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Holy shit this has to be ragebait

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theres no fucking way

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genuine jackass

lyric meadow
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lets leave the post clear for others to share their opinion 🙂 have a good day

thin sage
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this dude 100% uses safezones like a rat. he just dosent want his pathetic playstyle fixed

lyric meadow
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very mature

thin sage
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i think 1 way pvp fights are pretty unfair

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if they are able to shoot you while you're anywhere in the map and you cant shoot them back