40k monster manual pt. 1 Chaos

[shrewd geode]

I'm starting on the word bearers today and I've revised the list of units I'll be converting into statblocks, thoughts?
● Possessed
● Warp Talons
● the Anointed
● Master of Possessions
● Dark Apostle
● Kor Pheron
● (fuck) Erebus
● Lorgar Aurelian
My original list had a lot of stuff that either doesn't have a lot to work with, not even having models or rules in horus heresy 2nd edition, or were only known from a few lines of text, so I zeroed in on datasheets with heavy ties to the word bearers.

[shrewd geode]

@plush ginkgo

[plush ginkgo]

Seems decent, however, warp talons I think would fit more night lords more since those are raptors who go absolutely insane and devolve in some fashion.

[shrewd geode]

A warp talon can come from a raptor of any legion or dedicated to any of the chaos gods, but I see your point. I'll think on it while I'm working on the other statblocks.

[plush ginkgo]

That's fair, in lore I saw more warp talons in night lords heraldry so that might be colouring my perception of the warp talons.

[shrewd geode]

Are the are the Space Wolves' Sons of Morkai an actual chapter or are they like the Blood Angels' Death Company?

[plush ginkgo]

Closer to the death company, I would recommend checking up on them on the net just in case.

[shrewd geode]

The dark apostles are roughly the word beaers equivalent of chapter masters, right?

[plush ginkgo]

More of a equivalent of chaplains really with more political power in the legion.

[shrewd geode]

Noted, from what I've read they seem to be the highest authority after (fuck) Erebus, Kor Pheron, and Lorgar himself.

[plush ginkgo]

Reasonable takeaway from that and it is certainly one way to look at them. Also, I think it might be a me issue but I am getting excited to do the player's guide to this now. I even thought up a name.

Player's guide to the 41st millennium.

[shrewd geode]

We'll start work on the imperium classes after the Codex Abyssus is done.

[plush ginkgo]

Nice remainder, I am going to see what would be nice to do first. Maybe the ig or sisters.

[shrewd geode]

I'll be starting with the astartes.

[plush ginkgo]

Fair, prefer the normal guys myself but space marines could be fun to do.

[shrewd geode]

Thoughts on this? For the Kor Phaeron and Erebus statblocks.
Athame Blade. Melee Weapon Attack: +10 to hit, reach 5ft., one target. Hit: 10 (2d6+4) piercing damage plus 6 (2d6) force damage. On hit, If the targeted creature is under the effects of a spell, magical effect, or ability, Kor Phaeron can choose to end the effect on that creature. If the ended effect was from a magical item, the effect returns after 24 hours. Only one effect can be removed per turn.

[plush ginkgo]

Situational but powerful, I think it's ultimately fine.

[ocean yoke]

If anyone wants to check out my new monster, its in a newly made post!

[desert ember]

Also forgot to mention didnt see this, ping whenever, I just have dnd on always so i dont get the noise lol

[shrewd geode]

Gotcha, thank you.

[shrewd geode]

I'm writing his statblock today so this is relevant.

[plush ginkgo]

Via plasma cannon shoved up his ass.

[shrewd geode]

@plush ginkgo @desert ember @ocean yoke @mortal spear could y'all take a look a the word bearers statblocks before I start on Lorgar? Also what CR should I make Lorgar?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sJaxdxT6QvZdIPe4rEqmQ8Unqq92FxPngUFNmJE8P28/edit?usp=drivesdk

The word bearers are the ones with orange names.

[plush ginkgo]

Question, why are warp talons medium while all the other word bearer stuff is large?

[shrewd geode]

That was a mistake, my apologies.

I'll fix it.

[plush ginkgo]

Righto, as for everything else? All looks fine. As for lorgar, phsycially he ain't that impressive but he is as a daemon primarch a pretty good psyker so around 26 or 29 I think.

[shrewd geode]

I'll go with 27.

[plush ginkgo]

That is fine I think, after lorgar I think it's the iron warriors or the alpha legion I think? Maybe the back legion?

[shrewd geode]

Iron Warriors->Alpha Legion->Black Legion.

[plush ginkgo]

Makes sense, should shouldn't be too bad now think now.

[shrewd geode]

Not too bad.

[plush ginkgo]

Thinking on this, I think we might have to create a custom character sheet for this once codex abyssyus is done. We did say there will be custom skills for this so we will have to cook something up I think.

[shrewd geode]

I think we should see what we can do with the pre existing format before we try that.

[plush ginkgo]

That's fair, taking a look first would at least let us gauge what we need to work with.

[shrewd geode]

Thoughts?
Graviton Weapon: Once per turn, on hit, you can force the targeted creature to make a Strength saving throw. On a failure the creature takes force damage equal to two rolls of the weapons damage die and its movement speed is halved until the start of its next turn. On a success it takes half as much damage and its movement speed is not reduced.
Ranged Weapon Save DC= 8+your dexterity modifier+your proficiency bonus if you are proficient with this weapon+the weapon's bonus to hit if any.
Melee Weapon Save DC=8+your strength modifier+your proficiency bonus if you are proficient with this weapon+the weapon's bonus to hit if any.

@mortal spear

[plush ginkgo]

Seems okay? Personally I would have it scale more off of profiency since grav weapons are more often then not ranged weapons, at least for the imperial side of things. But I can see why strength or dexterity would be considered as a scaling Stat as well.

[mortal spear]

prof to save should be if proficient rather than always.

[shrewd geode]

This property is kinda like the chain weapon property. If you're proficient with axes then you're proficient with chainaxes, and if you're proficient with hammers than you're proficient with graviton hammers.

[mortal spear]

needs to say in the property doe

[shrewd geode]

Fair point.

[mortal spear]

wordings

[shrewd geode]

That's a lot better.

Fixed.

@mortal spear Wait a minute, should energy weapons be their own category to be proficient in? Lasguns, plasma weapons, volkite weapons, and grav ranged weapons.

[mortal spear]

I'd just put em martial

I have expanded with Weapon Families - and energy weapons might be a family but in terms of broad profs, just martial

[shrewd geode]

Fair, don't want to overcomplicate shit when there's already gonna be a ton of stuff introduced.

Thank you.

[mortal spear]

if it helps, my families look like this'n

[plush ginkgo]

That's certainly a lot.

[mortal spear]

hm?

[plush ginkgo]

Just saying that there is a lot of stuff in the families you posted.

[mortal spear]

ah - that's just a bit. xD
this is also the "specific variants" section

the "generics" is smaller

[plush ginkgo]

@shrewd geode also just something that I feel doesn't make sense, I don't think the havocs should have power fists are melee weapons considering that they are lugging around such big guns.

[shrewd geode]

That's only the iron champion not the iron havoc but I still see ypur point, I was just pulling directly from their datatsheet. I'll think about it.

[plush ginkgo]

I see your point, could always make it something small like a power knife when shit hits the fan.

[shrewd geode]

The new nemesis claw datasheet dropped, today I'll be making them, the warsmith, and get started on perturabo.

[plush ginkgo]

Fair enough on that, at least those should be interesting.

[shrewd geode]

@plush ginkgo also I'll be going back and making the statblock for the scarab occult terminators. I knew much less about each individual subfaction's specialized units then I do now and I won't deprive the Thousand Sons of their big guns.

[plush ginkgo]

That's appreciated! Seeing the scarab occult boys will be great! Love them and their terminator design.

[shrewd geode]

I've gotten to the iron warriors in my 40k bestiary, and there's no official description of daemon perturabo, so which of these should I base it on? None of these were made by me.

[plush ginkgo]

My biased opinion, the third one looks the coolest.

[shrewd geode]

Its been an hour, number 3 has gotten the most votes, number 3 will be used.

[desert ember]

i woulda said 1 if i had a vote

tho dont think it would change the result

[shrewd geode]

Six votes for 3
You would make two votes for 1
And one vote each for 2 and 4
Sorry, mate.

[desert ember]

Yeah no for sure

GODDAMN THAT WAS CANADIAN

apologies the maple syrup was seeping in

[shrewd geode]

Should I limit the astra militarum class to the tempestus scions?

[plush ginkgo]

Maybe it to the imperial guard units and have the scions be a prestige class of a sort? Grenadiers and militarum veterans are a thing, same with the karskin really.

[shrewd geode]

Fair.

[plush ginkgo]

Like, a imperial guard player could pick up the sharpshooter or weapon specialist subclass and have their regiment culture also be a thing they have to keep in mind as well. The overall capstone should be becoming a militarum vet and becoming pretty dang respectable.

[shrewd geode]

Rejoice, they needed this. Screenshot taken directly from the preview livestream.

[plush ginkgo]

Finally! Also, fuegan!

[shrewd geode]

I have to admit I was kind of dreading the aeldari statblocks but this had me stoked. I'll always be a Necron fan at heart but the new models look damn good, especially Lykhis.

[shrewd geode]

Could I get some eyes on these? I'm a little over half way done with the followers of Chaos Undivided but I went back and the followers of Khorne statblocks were just a mess so I made some fixes.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ed7uEPzdiG2rNFGZUFODinRb13oha5ajzCkxKP23gWE/edit?usp=drivesdk

[plush ginkgo]

Didn't pick anything up that was messed up, just looks a tad cleaner now.

[shrewd geode]

Eh, fair enough. Also the scarab occult terminator is done.

[plush ginkgo]

Nice,also got the updated on lykhis and oh God his model slaps.

[shrewd geode]

@mortal spear Is it true you can change out a shotgun's barrels to have different spread patterns?

Recommended damage for a standard or astartes shotgun?

Is this even worth pursuing?

[plush ginkgo]

Well what's the damage for a bolter?

[shrewd geode]

3d6 piercing

[plush ginkgo]

I think a good damage dice then would be that but powered a step, so 3d4 for a normal shotgun but a starter grade shotgun could have one more damage dice for example.

[mortal spear]

So yes.
But it won't be worth replicating chokes in a 5e style system.
Just "Slug" and "Buckshot" really.
Standard shotguns, iirc are meant to be equal to modern shotties which'd beeeee

I've done this

which is a touch messy, but I have yet to figure out something cleaner, that isn't more complex

[shrewd geode]

Shotgun. Ranged Weapon Attack: +X to hit, range 30ft or a Xft cone., one target in range or all targets in the area. Hit: X (3d6+X). Crowd Weapon.
Crowd Weapon. When attacking with this weapon, choose whether to make a ranged weapon attack against a single creature within range, or to make a single ranged weapon attack against the AC of all creatures in the area listed.

@mortal spear how does this look?

Probably needs a better name though.

[plush ginkgo]

Maybe something like close quarters weapon?

[rustic ore]

I believe Crowd Weapon would be a save not an attack

[shrewd geode]

I've really only seen shotguns mentioned once so I don't think I'll be working with them again. So should I just give it the Special tag like Lance and Net in base dnd?

[rustic ore]

sure

[shrewd geode]

Maybe make it something like.. make a ranged weapon attack. All creatures in the area must succeed a Dexterity saving throw or take X damage. The save DC equals your attack roll.

[desert ember]

That leads to commenly getting a dc of like 27

Its interesting but I think just a save is easier?

[shrewd geode]

The save DC equals 8+your dexterity modifier+your proficiency bonus+the weapon's bonus to hit if any.
Better?

[rustic ore]

it'd be 8 + prof + weapon's bonus to hit
to avoid double dipping dexterity

[desert ember]

No I think they mean like +1 weapons

[rustic ore]

oh ok

[shrewd geode]

Thoughts on how much damage a melta bomb should do?

[plush ginkgo]

5d8 fire damage with a area dex save? It is basically a big microwave heat bomb.

[mortal spear]

Too strong.
You'll note the aoe is 1 die for mine, while the single is two.
It shouldn't be close to the 3 die of a bolt gun imo - 2 for gun, 3 for big gun

[shrewd geode]

Understood, I'll make the change. Should I keep the die size the same?

[mortal spear]

I tend to myself, but thats just choice

[mortal spear]

also, to add to this to help explain my brain process - my philosophy on Gun (and damage die in general) is:
Medieval / Very Light / Low velocity weapons - 1dX base.
Firearms / heavy 1dx / "standard" modern weapons - 2dX base.
Heavy firearms / heavy 2dx / "anti-armour" / "very high velocity" weapons - 3dX base.
Emplaced Weapons / Siege / Etc 4-5+dX as required by feel.

Things like Explosive add a die of damage - which is how the Bolters get to 3dX, cos basically a shotgun slug (2dX) +1 for explosive built in (3dX)

[shrewd geode]

That makes sense since the charge going off is an additional "tic" of damage.

[shrewd geode]

Whenever I make a statblock with Heretic Arms or Daemonic Arms I have Multiattack listed after the weapons, should I move it to above the weapon options?

[mortal spear]

ye

[shrewd geode]

@graceful atlas could you help me pin this message?

[shrewd geode]

All statblocks are now in pinned messages.

[plush ginkgo]

At last, succor! Honestly the alpha legion looks pretty good so far, can't wait to see the black legion done.

[shrewd geode]

My initial plan for the subclass system for the space marines is similar to totem barbarian. Where the subclass is the legion and when you first pick the subclass you pick your chapter. Rough draft picks below in no particular order.
Blood Angels
● Founding Chapter
● Flesh Tearers
● Charnel Guard
● Lamenters
Imperial Fists
● Founding Chapter
● Black Templars
● Crimson Fists
● Celestial Lions
Dark Angels
● Founding Chapter
● Angels of Vengeance
● Angels of Redemtion
● Angels of Absolution
Raven Guard
● Founding Chapter
● Raptors
● Revilers
● Death Eagles
Ultramarines
● Founding Chapter
● Nova Marines
● Genesis Chapter
● Mortificators
Salamanders
● Founding Chapter
● Black Dragons
● Storm Giants
● Dark Krakens
Iron Hands
● Founding Chapter
● Red Talons
● Sons of Medusa
● Iron Lords
Space Wolves
● Champions of Fenris
● Sons of Morkai
● Blood Maws
● Red Moons
White Scars
● Founding Chapter
● Storm Lords
● Dark Hunters
● Marauders
Any input would be appreciated.

[plush ginkgo]

Looks good so far, person think the iron snakes, white consuls and maybe howling griffons would be cool to see as well.

And just also have a soft spot for some homebrewed chapters like the conservators due to their actual pretty good lore for once.

[plush ginkgo]

But yeah it looks very good thus far. Also, i think we will need a thread for this lol the player's guide lol.

[shrewd geode]

Oh most definitely

[plush ginkgo]

Have you considered a name yet by the way for it?

[shrewd geode]

For what?

[desert ember]

The players guide i assume

And or dms guide

[shrewd geode]

Not yet. I was halfway done with the death guard before I came up with Codex Abyssus, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

[plush ginkgo]

That's fair, a few months ago just came up with the player's guide to the 41st millienum but that's it.

[shrewd geode]

Is this too much? The guy's whole thing is deception and misdirection.
I Am Alpharius (Recharge 5-6). All allied creatures within 60 feet of Alpharius take on his appearance, or match whatever disguise or illusion he is currently wearing, and Alpharius and all allied creatures within the area can choose to teleport to swap places with any other allied creature. The guise of Alpharius remains for 1d4+1 rounds and this ability can not be used again for the duration.

[plush ginkgo]

I don't think he could actually do this in lore? At best I think he can make himself very sneaky via holographic bullshit but I dunno. I know the least about alpharius.

[shrewd geode]

Alpharius has the absolute least to go off of out of all the primarchs. The first line of the book from supposedly his POV is "I am Alpharius, this is a lie." So I invented something.

[plush ginkgo]

Fair enough I suppose? I don't feel like I am qualified to comment on this but I think it is fitting if nothing else.

[plush ginkgo]

Thinking on the tone of this and I think grimdark with some notes of heroic moments would be good, having everything be miserable can only work for so long.

[shrewd geode]

I had the same idea.

[plush ginkgo]

Great minds think alike, having the grimdark aspect still be aspect but getting rid of the stupid bits and throwing in some heroic aspects and a small dose of common sense would allow us to have a good balance of themes and allow for interesting stories.

[shrewd geode]

Given the black legion is essentially a potluck of all Chaos legions, I'm not gonna dig real deep I'm just gonna base the statblocks on the official datasheets.

[plush ginkgo]

Makes sense, wondering if furies, daemon brutes and infernus abominations have been done yet since they are undivided daemonic entities.

[shrewd geode]

Those will not be included.

[plush ginkgo]

Fair but may I ask why?

[shrewd geode]

Furies and daemon brutes both seem like redundancies when each of the chaos gods has their own equivalent, and the infernus abomination doesn't really have any ties to anyone or anything.

[plush ginkgo]

Fair, not gonna really complain although the infernus abomination looks really sick.

[shrewd geode]

I'm going back and giving the subfactions their respective daemon prince's instead of having one stat block in undivided with the Dark Pacts trait.

[plush ginkgo]

Fair? A bit more work but it should spice up the rosters a bit and shouldn't be too bad.

[shrewd geode]

Note for the future: given the teasers for the upcoming Emperor's Children models when their codex does drop I may redo their statblocks in the followers of Slaanesh doc.

[shrewd geode]

Which of these should I use for the Bringers of Despair, Abaddon's honor guard?

[plush ginkgo]

The second one, it feels more dynamic.

[desert ember]

the second one is just really cool

[shrewd geode]

Second it is then.

[plush ginkgo]

Nice, after this I can a few units are remaining apart from the princes and then codex abyssus is done lol.

Also, m'kar is the worst daemon prince, dude doesn't have a single win under his belt.

[shrewd geode]

Don't forget the chaos knights, helbrutes and named characters which for the sake of my own sanity I will be limiting to the official 10th edition datasheets.

[plush ginkgo]

Oh yeah them too lol, damn I sometimes forget how much damn stuff there is for chaos.

[shrewd geode]

Minor updates:
Added the deathshroud terminators to the followers of nurgle doc.
Gave the Keeper of Secrets, noise marine, sonic dreadnought, Masque of Slaanesh, and Fulgrim the performance skill.
Currently working on the helbrute.
Sorry for the lull, Thanksgiving and other stuff happened.

[plush ginkgo]

It's all good Dylan, perfectly understandable.

[shrewd geode]

I got a bit ahead of myself. Which version do y'all think is best?
Oath of Moment V1
*You swear an oath to destroy an enemy of the imperium. As a bonus action, choose one creature you can see within 30 feet of you. For 1 minute, each time you make an attack against that creature, roll a 1d4 and add the result to your attack and damage rolls, rolling separately for each attack. The die increases to a 1d6 at level 4, to a 1d8 at level 10, and to a 1d10 at level 16.

You can't use this feature again until you finish a short or long rest.*

Oath of Moment V2
You swear an oath to destroy an enemy of the imperium. As a bonus action, choose one creature you can see within 30 feet of you. For 1 minute, the first time on each of your turns you make an attack against that creature, roll a 1d6 and add the result to your attack and damage rolls. The die increases to a 1d8 at level 4, to a 1d10 at level 10, and to a 1d12 at level 16.

You can't use this feature again until you finish a short or long rest.

[plush ginkgo]

Hmm, v1 seems more balanced, who or what it is made for anyway?

[shrewd geode]

The adeptus astartes class.

[plush ginkgo]

Ah alright, it makes sense then.

[plush ginkgo]

Also holy shit you did undivided daemons for be'lakor and vashtorr, based.

[shrewd geode]

Aside from the possibilities for stories, I just thought of them as the biggest disrespect to the big 4 Vashtorr and Be'lakor could manage.

[plush ginkgo]

Very true and it is always something that is interesting. And it is a nest creative exercise before the knights. Although the Knight abominus I think could be fun, it is a building sized robot with mind powers after all.

[plush ginkgo]

Just wanted a word on something Dylan, where did you find the stuff on the 'subclasses' for the space wolves, can't find anything apart from the wolf brothers and the wolves wolfespears.

[shrewd geode]

The space wolves are non-codex compliant, the Founding Chapter actually has thirteen companies called the great companies, and each company has several hundred marines and their own combat doctrine, so I used the great companies instead of chapters.

[plush ginkgo]

Fair. Makes sense as far as the space wolves go, I do hope we can write them more as space viking warriors instead of the wolf meme. I do legit find that aspect of them cool.

[shrewd geode]

I was planning on focusing more on their identity as the Emperor's executioners.

[plush ginkgo]

That can work as well, honestly they have been interpreted in so many different ways that any if them could work.

[shrewd geode]

Is this clear enough?
Attacks Targeting Multiple Creatures
If an attack says that it targets “one or two creatures” or “one to #” creatures, it makes one attack roll, and that roll is used against the AC of each creature targeted, and each creature can only be targeted once per attack.

[shrewd geode]

List of named characters I'm making for Chaos Undivided.
Cypher
Huron Blackheart
Abaddon the Despoiler
Vashtorr the Arkifane
Be'lakor
Any other additions?

[rustic ore]

seems useless, attacks that target multiple creatures are mechanically saves
for example, a Dragon's Wing Attack - called attack, requires a save

[shrewd geode]

Here's an example of what I'm talking about.
Reaper Chaincannon. Ranged Weapon Attack: +8 to hit, range 40ft., one to four targets. Hit: 20 (4d8+4) piercing damage.
By the way that's the weapon's actual name I didn't make it up.
An example in official dnd would be the Deathlock Mastermind's grave bolts.

[plush ginkgo]

No one comes to mind but if you really wanna you can throw in a custom bad guy astartes if you really wanna. Or use any other guy mentioned in the lore like samus or hon'su.

[shrewd geode]

No thank you.

[plush ginkgo]

Lol fair, hmm, maybe the first claw gang or kayhon would be good? No other cool chaos space marine comes to mins.

[rustic ore]

In that case, I'd assume it means you can shoot an extra grave bolt if there is a secondary target
cause' that wouldn't require clarification

[shrewd geode]

Fair enough then.

Thank you.

[shrewd geode]

Any of y'all been following the new detachments for Grotmas?

[plush ginkgo]

Apart from the nids, necrons, eldar and bonereapers? Not in particular.

[shrewd geode]

Just curious.

[plush ginkgo]

Buuut, I did get the aos soulbound rulebook today and it's amazing.

[shrewd geode]

Yeah I just wish there were character options for the Seraphon. I get they start out as drones but they develop personalities as they age, and who knows maybe there's a lost artifact or something else important to the great plan.
Seraphon are my main aos army but I dabble in Ironjaws.

[plush ginkgo]

Kinda same, it's the idoneth,sylvaneth and bonereapers but the seraphon indeed need some love.

[shrewd geode]

If I never make a humanoid statblock again, it'll still be too early. Codex Abyssus will be finished this week, following its completion open discussion and work on the imperium player options will begin.

[plush ginkgo]

Indeed, codex abyssus alone I think has close to 50 humanoid statblocks lol. Maybe a but less but still a ton.

[shrewd geode]

What CR should Abaddon be? I mean he's the head of the snake but he ain't the biggest gun.

[desert ember]

I would assume like 26?

[plush ginkgo]

He does have drach'ynen though so I'd say around 26 or 28.

[shrewd geode]

That's two for 26, so 26 it is then.

[plush ginkgo]

How many statblocks part from abs are left anyway?

[shrewd geode]

I'm working on Huron Blackheart right now, so counting him, four.

[plush ginkgo]

That ain't a lot really at this point, should be a breeze towards the finish line.

[shrewd geode]

Which of these should I use for Vashtorr?

[plush ginkgo]

The last one seems the most menacing to me.

[shrewd geode]

Did any of y'all see They Shall Know No Fear?

[plush ginkgo]

Yup, it is a quite good stap capturing 40k and space marines.

[shrewd geode]

Which of these should I use for Be'lakor?

[desert ember]

2nd or third

But i think 2nd

[shrewd geode]

Yeah MTG has been a good source of art for this project.

[desert ember]

Oh thats the mtg one!

Awesome

[plush ginkgo]

Third for me.

[shrewd geode]

I fixed the link, sorry for the mix up.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XbHJGWYsHYXo2AbiTJSk-hQy0XT6nF4S
Codex Abyssus: The forces of Chaos from Warhammer 40K in DnD 5e format.
146 statblocks in total containing the World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Death Guard, Emperor's Children, Night Lords, Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion, and the Black Legion, as well as the daemons and daemon princes of Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Slaanesh.

[plush ginkgo]

Yup it works! Finally done.

[plush ginkgo]

So now we take a small break before making a new thread then?

[shrewd geode]

Correct

[plush ginkgo]

Roger! In that case I will keep my eyes peeled for the new thread while recharging the creative jucies.

[shrewd geode]

With daemon primarch Fulgrim's reveal, when the Emperor's Children official models and rules are released I will be going back over the followers of Slaanesh doc, in the meantime I am currently working on the Adeptus Astartes class and subclasses.

[plush ginkgo]

Makes sense, and oh, Dylan if you need help with the astartes class, like always I am willing to help.

[shrewd geode]

When I feel like I got a good chunk of it down, I'll start a forum and post the doc.

[plush ginkgo]

Very well man, oh and very Christmas!

[shrewd geode]

Merry christmas

[ocean yoke]

Hello friends I'm back

[shrewd geode]

Hello

[ocean yoke]

So for vehicles, if we haven't sorted them, I say we make a system for driving, but otherwise have a base frame for each vehicle type

So

Rhino

Devilfish/hammerhead

Land raider

And then an ability or extra attack with the special weapon/technology/firing deck/carrier of the subtype of tank

Eg. Redeemer/Crusader have different weapons. Predator/Rhino has weaponry/carry capacity

@shrewd geode @plush ginkgo @desert ember ^
Thoughts?

Drive system could be based on a special handling stat of each vehicle

[shrewd geode]

1. I'm just gonna do vehicle proficiency land/air/sea/space.
2. Vehicles will be covered in the DM's guide and we are still a long ways off from that.

The chaos bestiary is complete and I'm currently typing up the rough drafts of the imperium classes, after that I'm starting on the xenos bestiary.

@ocean yoke

[ocean yoke]

Yes

[ocean yoke]

Imperium classes?

I reccomend for classes making archetypez

Not specific roles, so if someone wants to be a chaos person who is trying to be better, or an auxiliary TAU, Eldar, Ork that joins the crew, to other players skepticism, it makes mor3 sense

Kroot too

[shrewd geode]

Kroot, aeldari, votann, and freebootaz will be worked on after the xenos bestiary.
Chaos classes will be covered in the DM's guide.

[plush ginkgo]

Yeah for now we are doing the imp side.

[ocean yoke]

Alr

[quaint valve]

Hey I can't open the documents anymore, wete they transferred to a unified doc or something?

[shrewd geode]

Sorry to say but there I had a lot of of gripes with the statblocks, and traits and abilities given, and a big list of issues that would make it easier for me to start from scratch rather than going through and try to correct each one individually. The docs have been deleted.

I should have deleted this forum after I did so, my apologies.

[quaint valve]

Oh that's a shame. My players thought my version of the horrors were OP as he'll so I wanted to compare you yours again

[ocean yoke]

How's it going over here

[shrewd geode]

The project has been canceled, I'm sorry. I thought I deleted this forum.

[ocean yoke]

Oh that's sad it was looking good.. am I allowed to use someone the stuff here if I ever need it?

Oh

Shit nevermind you deleted the docs