Faye's a bit of Everything

[mystic sequoia]

Do you get that?

I barely get 6

[idle meteor]

I usually sleep 7ish hours when not fucked these days

I'm usually fucked, so it's more 4 or 12, but

[crystal thistle]

[idle meteor]

my sleep cycle used to be ~3 hourly, so I used to do 6 or 9.
Now I think it's closer to 3.5 hours,

[torpid bronze]

damn i sleep for like

a lot of hours

like 12 usually

[mystic sequoia]

Voluntarily?

[crystal thistle]

i get 6

[mystic sequoia]

or is your brain also quirky like that?

[torpid bronze]

im drugged out of my mind on psych medication

all the time

[idle meteor]

I'm suffering from long covid : D

[torpid bronze]

🅱️ovid

[mystic sequoia]

I did read you have to use a cane when checking some of your old stuff

Is that related?

[idle meteor]

yeah

[torpid bronze]

god im so pissed i dodged covid entirely until the schools reopened

and my mom has gotten covid twice

from the kids she teaches

[mystic sequoia]

I thank my ocd ass for being so careful

[torpid bronze]

ive been supposed to buy a cane for liek 3 years but instead i just simply struggle to stand up using like shelves and walls and stuff

[idle meteor]

I almost got hit by a car which did my hip, then got hit with covid just after - I was paranoid about it, but didn't have a mask cos I was working in a kitchen that day, and the company ignored the limits and overstaffed hard

and my hip has mostly recovered as of the start of the month

but I still have dizzy spells, and I tire out very quickly, so still have the cane for stability

[torpid bronze]

oof

[idle meteor]

grab one from amazon, s'pretty handy honestly - helped a lot

[mystic sequoia]

That fucking sucks

[torpid bronze]

i just am so vain

i cant figure out a way to make a cane look dripped out for my aesthtic

so like

do i like way stupider

strugglign to stand off the floor?

yes

[idle meteor]

I grabbed a few of these

[torpid bronze]

100 times yes

[mystic sequoia]

You can comission me a design

And print it

sellout

[torpid bronze]

i do like the folding ones

or the telescoping orw/e its called

im also just broke

[idle meteor]

these are folding

telescoping are the ones that collapse into themselves

[torpid bronze]

ah yeah thats what i thought

[idle meteor]

Im still on the lookout for a solid wooden hafted metal topped cane, but

atm, I'm coping so

[crystal thistle]

how sturdy is that badboi?

[mystic sequoia]

Arco, are you also fucked up like that?

[crystal thistle]

no I just want to know

[idle meteor]

the one pictured... medium?
But that was a cheapo one I got so I always had one in the backpack, but it's like... 1mm steel shaft.
The main one I've been using is the same style, but a 2mm steel shaft, so a lot sturdier

[crystal thistle]

nice, thats smart putting one in your backpack

[mystic sequoia]

How much weight do you put into it?

like, how bad do you have to use it?

when you do

[idle meteor]

sometimes not a lot, sometimes most of it...
the main one and wooden ones hold up well tho

[mystic sequoia]

Taking notes, cuz I was told my back might be a problem by my early 20s

and I'm currently on those so

gulp

[idle meteor]

absolutley terrible picture, but I'm not redoing it so

[mystic sequoia]

My grandpa has the middle right one

Seems pretty good

[idle meteor]

considering something like this though

[mystic sequoia]

hope don't have to use them

[mystic sequoia]

bh is done

[crystal thistle]

thank you love

[idle meteor]

jesuschrist

[crystal thistle]

you need this

also

Go to bed

[mystic sequoia]

Chane

[idle meteor]

I don't want it in my house

[mystic sequoia]

Might need to add a tw for every possible topic when I ask people to check my stuff

"Hey, check my weapon rework! TW, EXISTENTIAL DREAD, WAR, SUIDICE"

[torpid bronze]

💀

my bad

[mystic sequoia]

Nonono

it was my fault

I called ovion a scrimblo

[torpid bronze]

i feel like

i should add tw to my discord

bcuz i just ramble about insane shit

[mystic sequoia]

I do like to ramble

[mystic sequoia]

Like, to your profile in general?

[torpid bronze]

yeah lmao

i was thinking of throwing it right in there

right above my pronouns

[idle meteor]

see, for how they fit my hand, I prefer the dome grip ones.
But they're too long, and I've not got round to shortening them.
But, using the short-cross grips, I've realised they're basically a warhammer, so carrying one is not only good for my health, it's bad for anyone who tries anything too. xD

[mystic sequoia]

I'll add a cane weapon

In your honour

And Bunni's

and I guess future's me

[mystic sequoia]

Might be a good idea

[torpid bronze]

cane weapon poggers

[mystic sequoia]

Cane weapons are so cool

like

go off queen

but the queen is an old man

with severe back problems

In england you can carry a sheathed blade on a cane iirc

[crystal thistle]

@mystic sequoia

which one of this is a shield

like

a Shield

Shield

[mystic sequoia]

Steel shield

which ovion would probablly say its actually historically wooden

[crystal thistle]

do clerics not get armor and shield trainings?

[mystic sequoia]

no

They get armor

But they don't know how to use it

they just wear it

[crystal thistle]

kk

[mystic sequoia]

they rawdog the armor

[mystic sequoia]

Why the interest in bh?

[crystal thistle]

i got a cleric in my party lol

[mystic sequoia]

Do you wanna play one?

They get good defensive spells already

but, why the intrest in bh?

[mystic sequoia]

you dm or play?

[crystal thistle]

dm

[crystal thistle]

also got a player

[mystic sequoia]

Oh

well my bloodhunter

/j

How's this for indomitable?

forgot to add level

[idle meteor]

That is super illegal

15-25 years in jail illegal iirc

[mystic sequoia]

What?

That was the only reason I had for going there

[idle meteor]

Carrying a blade without a reason (I.e. On the way to work, where you will use it) will usually result in confiscation, and either a fine or short sentence?
Carrying a sword, is a no.
Carrying a concealed sword breaks 3-4 statutes and you'll get screwed

It's part of why I like the cane hammer thing

Cos it's a legitimate and legal carry

[mystic sequoia]

I mean, it makes sense

[idle meteor]

Something I kinda want to do, is get a ~3mm wall steel tube, then an allu rod to go inside, a spring steel head and cap, for a proper hefty fancy stick, but sounds like money

[mystic sequoia]

Might as well embrace the vibe if you have to use it anyway

[idle meteor]

Indeed

[mystic sequoia]

What's the string for? resistance?

[glacial cove]

It's when you scramble an amiibo

Ah, you see, one is for casual Barbarian players, the other is for competitive

More like a Weird ol' Yanky-man

[mystic sequoia]

catwheeze

[glacial cove]

Oh yeah? I've got your low tier meme right here!

I thought tumblr was dead

[torpid bronze]

Tumblr did split with nsfw content creators heading to only fans/reddit/Twitter

[mystic sequoia]

What?

[torpid bronze]

But the sfw side of Tumblr is doing pretty good

[mystic sequoia]

Wait

was that true?

[torpid bronze]

Porn ban on Tumblr a couple years ago

From apple to stay on the app store

[glacial cove]

If it ain't controversial it ain't popular

[torpid bronze]

Tumbles biggest issue is that it's hard to montonize so it's kinda a toxic assesst for anyone who owns it

[glacial cove]

Yeah, it drives away its users

[mystic sequoia]

Like twitter?

That's why Elon is so desperate

[torpid bronze]

Well Twitter is hard to montonize bcuz Elon musk fucked it all up

[mystic sequoia]

twitter makes way less money than he expected

[torpid bronze]

Tumbles layout make it's hard to shove ads into it and the user base hates data mining and will leave over data harvesting

[glacial cove]

The cycle of life, but I haven't seen anything new posted from there, everything seems like an old repost

[mystic sequoia]

I watch PM seymour, that's all the tumblr I absorb tbf

They have rotten my mind in unfixable ways

[torpid bronze]

A lot of Tumblr spread is more of breaching containment and ppl referencing stuff rather than Tumblr post being posted everywhere

[mystic sequoia]

And voiceovers

[torpid bronze]

That too 💀

[mystic sequoia]

There are so many tumblr voiceovers

Like

[glacial cove]

If you cut down the middle you get Loss

[mystic sequoia]

It seems like the new gen of voice actors all will have done tumblr voiceovers

[torpid bronze]

The recent colombo revival had a big presence on Tumblr

[mystic sequoia]

I LOVE COLUMBO

I love the tumblr version of it

[torpid bronze]

Lmao yeah

[mystic sequoia]

and the gianny voiceovers

[torpid bronze]

I also think Tumblr culture is less referencing specific post or w/e and more of an actual culture of the way people talk and think and feel about things

[glacial cove]

It's still the side character arc, he's in the age where he can't allineate with any side

[mystic sequoia]

Are you going to read through everything?

If so, tw

a lot of stuff happens in that convo

[mystic sequoia]

Ye

[glacial cove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fat-fatcat-thick-gif-20183992

Not as good as "Kenergy"

Read the book, read the book, lick the book, lick the book, bookbookbook

But what aspect of tiktok specifically? The short video format or the fact that it's full of crap content?

[torpid bronze]

Bro are you just digging through this whole Convo

[glacial cove]

I laughed at this, because the image of chinese people having closed eyes came immediatly to me

[mystic sequoia]

I think so

[strong orchid]

I'm guilty of doing that from time to time

[glacial cove]

It does seem far easier to just abandon the planet rather than save it. I hate humanity

[strong orchid]

Especially in balance forums - I wanna make sure that suggestions I give factor in what other people have said

[glacial cove]

Chile el mejor país de Chile

[strong orchid]

Yo whaddup @glacial cove in the future, when you get to the bottom of this thread

[mystic sequoia]

Ye but this is quite different

[strong orchid]

You right

[mystic sequoia]

Anyway, lod, whatcha think about this?

pb scalling fighting styles

[strong orchid]

Lemme take a gander 👀

[mystic sequoia]

for more dynamism

[strong orchid]

Been a while since I took a look at fighting styles, lemme crack it open quickly

[glacial cove]

No expression

[strong orchid]

I wanna preface, I've got no stake in the whole martials VS casters debate and whether one is stronger than the other - I like classes having options during customization, but knowing whether a wizard is objectively better than a ranger is not something in my forte

[glacial cove]

I hear that a lot

[strong orchid]

With that said lemme take a read through

[mystic sequoia]

dw, I just want to make fun things

[strong orchid]

🫡

[mystic sequoia]

and my phylosophy is, options for everyone

[glacial cove]

I have encountered more decent to good doctors than assholes, so I can count myself lucky. The ones that were assholes tho, gosh such a pain, even prescribing wrong shit

The what?

Oh

[crystal thistle]

Seba why are you reviving the conversation

[mystic sequoia]

I

[torpid bronze]

Seba plz you dont need to ping me every time lmao

[mystic sequoia]

I don't think he's reading

us

hes on the past

hes coming back to the future

[strong orchid]

I could be wrong, but I don't think blind really does anything new outside of the vanilla blind fighting style?

[mystic sequoia]

Nope, for now

[strong orchid]

And I don't think it solves the attack rolls have advantage/disadvantage problem with blindsight

At least RAW

[mystic sequoia]

It does, it ignores invis within the blindsight range

while they don't hide

[glacial cove]

In a way, yes. People killing themselves is always tragic, but if they have made up their choice, I don't think it's bad to give them such a method.

[mystic sequoia]

they upgrade

at lvl 12 for now, as a placeholder

[crystal thistle]

@glacial cove get out of the past!

[strong orchid]

"You can see an invislbe creature within that range" they still benefit from invisible, which RAW means they still have adv and dis (I could be wrong, but pretty sure that's how it works RAW - fact check?)

It's RAI vs RAW

[mystic sequoia]

oh shit

[strong orchid]

Also, gtg - playing dominion with the fam

[mystic sequoia]

you are right

[strong orchid]

I'll let you know if I win

[crystal thistle]

that is right

[mystic sequoia]

Gotta fix that

[strong orchid]

Yeah it's a weird quirk with invisible

[crystal thistle]

bc 5e sure makes sense

[mystic sequoia]

We argued that the advantage is not for being invisible itself

and a power up you get for being invisible

the only way it makes sense

fuck invisible creatures

all my homies hate invisibility

[glacial cove]

It's not hard to imagine that

[mystic sequoia]

HE HAS SO LONG TO GO THROUGH STILL

SOMEONE STOP HIM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[glacial cove]

ha, only granpas have a bedtime, cool kids don't go to sleep

(Until their parents come with the belt)

[glacial cove]

Agreed

[crystal thistle]

Seriously, how does he not realize?

[mystic sequoia]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Screaming so hard rn

[glacial cove]

https://youtu.be/To3QYzWNaoA?t=43
Nah, it's all about how you use them

[torpid bronze]

bruh

[glacial cove]

Preparing for the day he has to hit kids with it

[crystal thistle]

Honestly, can’t wait for that day

[glacial cove]

You know, there might be some umbrella designed ones

[glacial cove]

Fancy long hammer

[glacial cove]

Codumpo

[glacial cove]

Too late, already read the whole thing before getting here

[glacial cove]

It was really interesting

[torpid bronze]

interesting or fasciniating is what most of the psychatrist say about me as well

[glacial cove]

Good philos

[glacial cove]

kcaJ iarumaS

[glacial cove]

True, although I can't remember who gave them a bigger range

[glacial cove]

Goddamit Wizards

[glacial cove]

I just hadn't read a good convo like that in a long time. I know I didn't have to respond to it, but I did it anyways

[torpid bronze]

lmao nah thats fair

[glacial cove]

And I'm still laughing because of how delayed I was

[glacial cove]

Anyways, if you are going to make all FG pb based, why not give 5xpb times in feet of blindsight?

[mystic sequoia]

I was considering just that

[glacial cove]

For Dual and Great I have no idea

[mystic sequoia]

https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/SQLthaUyW-AE

@torpid bronze made the thing, its at the end of the class description

I still haven't added the fighter features to the table tho

[torpid bronze]

oh i like the total of 6/8 or doubles

[mystic sequoia]

Ye, a subclass built around max values would be very inconsistent

And barely a class

like champions and brutes

[torpid bronze]

lmao yeah

[strong orchid]

I like great weapon fighting - Seems a lot of fun. Just make sure you specify it only applies to two-handed weapons.

Same goes for a lot of these

[strong orchid]

Dual wielding does feel quite strong to me - What was wrong with RAW?

[torpid bronze]

raw it just feels bad bcuz you're only "gaining" one attack and most martial builds already go for a BA attack

so you're just making 3 way more shitty attacks than your comrade with a hand cross bow or a pole arm

[strong orchid]

Oh wait - This is an upgraded section

[torpid bronze]

but yea :3

[strong orchid]

That's more a problem with duel wielding than the fighting style though, right?

[torpid bronze]

well yeah but like its mostly a problem with GWM and SS

which is what makes the 1d4 pam bonus attack so much better than the DW one

not to mention DWing has a bigger feat tax

or the feat and fighting style

rather

i think duel wielding gets a lot better when you just add the two damage die together for each attack you make

[mystic sequoia]

Well ideally, you forget about martial feats on this weaponry

[torpid bronze]

yeah

i just think like 1d12 should be a great sword and 2d6 should be duel wielded short swords or w/e

[mystic sequoia]

Wait so, you suggest additive die?

That's crazy

Never done before

I'll be rich

[torpid bronze]

lmao

most people dont like just letting you make one attack per weapon

😭

[mystic sequoia]

You can do that with quick iirc

You can make a free attack with a quick weapon

At stage 2

Lvl 5

[torpid bronze]

yeah but i mean like if youre a fighter with 4 attacks if you're duel wielding you make 8 attacks

but just doubling your attacks breaks things

like hex

[strong orchid]

From the top (since I was looking at the wrong area)

• Blind is cool but seems the same 👍
• Am I reading Dual wrong? Or is that... just RAW?
• Great Weapon seems great, and is a nice buff to the non 2d6 great weapons while not being that much of a boost mathematically
• Interception is just Protection from the PHB?
• Ranged feels the strongest out of all the options, and it scales much more potently than the others, while also being the most boring
• Steet is neat

[mystic sequoia]

Blind now ignores invis, as suggested

Dw now adds your ability modifier by default to the dmg roll

Interception is the same, ye

Ranged is just better archery on the long run

[strong orchid]

Mb, I meant RAW rules for dual wielding the mechanic

[mystic sequoia]

But I do agree it's rather boring

[strong orchid]

I don't know the exacts of it but I'd imagine an attack roll bonus is stronger than a damage bonus due to on-hit abilities

Meanwhile, most other fighting styles that boost offensive power do so by boosting damage - Not attack

[mystic sequoia]

Wait, is archery +2 on dmg rolls?

[strong orchid]

RAW yeah

[mystic sequoia]

Shit, I read it wrong

My bad, sleep deprived

[strong orchid]

haha

nw

[mystic sequoia]

Well if you have more free time and are a masochist, I just sent my full base fighter rework (first draft) and the 1st subclass

I gtg sleep, it's almost 2 am and I need to be on the airport by 5

: D

[strong orchid]

I'll glance it for now, but it's 12:00 and I haven't done the worldbuilding I promised myself I'd do today

[mystic sequoia]

No pressure

[strong orchid]

It's missing some base features rn (Fast movement) and many of the other fighting styles it has access to, unless you're purposefully limiting them

Although if fast movement is just +speed, that encroaches on monk and I'm adverse to that

[mystic sequoia]

It's a fighter rework

[mystic sequoia]

I just copy and pasted the table for barb

Catsorry

[glacial cove]

No, attack rolls

At least the PHB ver

[idle meteor]

string?

[mystic sequoia]

Spring

My bad

[idle meteor]

spring steel is more flexible than regular steel.
So, you'd use say, a 15mm bore 1" diam mild steel pipe
then a 1/2" spring steel core - likely sticking out the bottom some to mount the foot on.
This'll give a bit of flex and suspension effect for a more comfortable step, as well as added strength when used to strike.
But spring steel is spensive

so using the mild steel outer is way cheaper

think, £100 for core + pipe, or ~150-200 for just spring steel

that said, for my purposes, just... that 1" mild steel rod might be enough, and would cut the weight in half, from 2kg to 1

[mystic sequoia]

And I guess you do it yourself

Like, you hand craft it

Right?

Or do you then commission it?

[idle meteor]

one or the other yeah

[mystic sequoia]

Btw, do you have any idea how to approach this kind of... thing?

I'm trying to make exploding die

But a class based solely on that would be inconsistent af

[idle meteor]

this feels... excessive

[mystic sequoia]

Ye, made it at 4 am

[idle meteor]

so, you could stearmline a bunch of that with like, 2+, 4+, 7+, etc

[mystic sequoia]

Or so

[idle meteor]

but even then... its.. not sure how to fix overall, havent the time to give right now sorry xD
gotta sort puters and cats

[mystic sequoia]

No worries

[crystal thistle]

i dont like it

i only like exploding dice when they explode in the highest number

also, what happens to finesse characters :(

[mystic sequoia]

This is str based

Not all subclasses have to be inclusive

To all playstiles

I'll also remake the arcane archer and samurai

For a ranged and a dex melee build

[mystic sequoia]

Yes but you can't build a subclass round that

Its too inconsistent

[crystal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/religion-bill-wurtz-dont-history-gif-14178134

[strong orchid]

@mystic sequoia you're right, I was wrong

curse this convenienetly made chart of all the fighting styles https://blackcitadelrpg.com/fighting-styles-5e/

it lists archery as +2 damage

[mystic sequoia]

I was sure

So, ye, better archery

[idle meteor]

I have a thing of fighting styles

[mystic sequoia]

Can I also get some weapons?

I do like your weaponry

[idle meteor]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer

currently redoing the layout so, messier

[mystic sequoia]

Np

Txs

[crystal thistle]

@mystic sequoia why not put the properties on the same level as ability score improvements and, similar to Tasha's optional features like Martial Versatility, you can just say "Whenever you reach a level in this class that grants the Ability Score Improvement feature, you can do one of the following" and then just say "Make all your trained properties 1 stage higher" "Choose a new property to become trained with at 1st stage"

I reworded this from
"and you can use both properties"
to
"and you are trained with both properties"

[mystic sequoia]

I like the change

[mystic sequoia]

I put them in levels I consider mostly dead

But, they are subject to change

I'm not tied to that progression so, idk

Maybe a more math person can help w how to make the progression

[crystal thistle]

hmmm

welp, I'll rule it as I mentioned, just bc that make things easier to keep track of
yk that an ASI also comes with a TI immediately

This is weaker than yours btw, bc now you only get to choose to upgrade 1 or gain a new one, I like this more

also

you mispelled Appalling 2 times in your doc as Appaling instead

[torpid bronze]

damn just giving better unarmored defense to everyone but monks

💀

[glacial cove]

What do you mean?

[torpid bronze]

ovions fighting styles

one is unarmored defense

which is dex + str/con

monks get unarmed defense

which is dex + wis

[glacial cove]

I can't read shit on PC

It doesn't let me open the image

[idle meteor]

or middle mouse button on it

[glacial cove]

You wanna see something funny?

That's how it looks

I wouldn't have said anything otherwise

[idle meteor]

Iunno what you're doing, or what your browser is doing, but when I open link, it do dis
https://i.imgur.com/ueBjFbu.png

[glacial cove]

Ok so, for some reason I did the usual which is open the picture and then open the link

But doing so from the message somehow gives me the right resolution

[idle meteor]

mmmm discord things

[glacial cove]

Adding Str is the only thing that doesn't make sense to me, other than that, meh

Sure, shield thingy, but whatever

[torpid bronze]

yeah but you can also do dex + con and you already want con for hp anyway

[glacial cove]

I guess you're right, I was thinking it from the Barbarian perspective, where maxing Dex instead of Str ain't that good

I wonder why Bards get it

They should at least use Charisma instead of Con

[torpid bronze]

bards shouldnt have unarmored defense at all stop giving full casters acs over 10 they dont deserve it

[glacial cove]

I mean, I know, but if you're going to give them that, at least it should make sense

[mystic sequoia]

I dunno why I add letters to words like that

I'm supposed to be good at English?

[glacial cove]

I'm supposed to be good at breathing and I can't even do that right

[fiery needle]

/srs or /hj?

[torpid bronze]

why do casters deserve ac?

but yes /hj

[glacial cove]

I'm on their side, casters weakness should be low AC, but they get so many spells to fix that

[torpid bronze]

i just think that casters should have to invest resources into everything they do

and armor should include that

things like mage armor are fine

but just dipping into fighter (for the absurd action surge -> two spells interaction) to get armor is super viable

the fighter dip isnt even for just for armor proff bcuz action surge w ould be worth dipping for anyway

[glacial cove]

Well, AS is a 2 level dip

[crystal thistle]

/srs

[glacial cove]

Mage Armor is too good, it shouldn't last that long, or have conc.

[torpid bronze]

mage armor also eats a slot that you would other wise use on shield

[glacial cove]

Just look at barkskin for comparison, and that spell is trash

[glacial cove]

Yeah, which is a +5 for a round vs a +3 for 8 hours

[torpid bronze]

true

taking mage armor down to a +2 or something would be fine

like compare it to shield of faith lmao

[idle meteor]

I buffed mage armour... And shield

[glacial cove]

Or a studded leather

[glacial cove]

How and why?

[torpid bronze]

lmao why

[idle meteor]

Because it felt right

[crystal thistle]

that shield is freaking busted

and Mage Armor isnt any better, also why are you using British spelling!

[idle meteor]

Honestly... It's more of a trap than anything.
Sure, you can increase, but you're also spending fatter slots on it.
Precious, precious slots

[idle meteor]

Because I'm English peasant.
Also, yeah the mage armour is pretty balanced, but I love adding upcast to things.
Also, makes it pretty buffed on a warlock tbh

[crystal thistle]

fair point abt the warlock, I still dont think Casters should just get high AC as easily

[idle meteor]

Also, fwiw, I have a house rule that mostly evens this out

[crystal thistle]

onednd made it so action surge cant use the magic action

[idle meteor]

You get a casting limit, equal to the tier iirc (though it might be Prof -2... Actually)
You can cast as many spells as your action economy allows, up to to that limit, and 1 can be up to the highest you can cast

So none of that "cantrip bonus action, reaction" crap.

Just, 1 up to max, rest at limit

[mystic sequoia]

This

My casters get no armor

clerics get up to medium armor for subclasses

Wizard w a artif dip goes crazy

[torpid bronze]

give wizards a d4 hit die and no ability to use armor

[mystic sequoia]

I'm working on this rule

basically

if fullcaster

add con mod/2 to hp

if martial, full con mod to hp

cuz it crazy how wizards are like, 2 avr under fighters and barbs

That's not squishy

Specially cuz casters want high con anyway

so, by simple math, casters and martials will have same con modifier overall

Almost same ac, very close hp

where's the "squishy"?

[torpid bronze]

nah bruh obvi we should let wizards be the best at every aspect of the game theyre called wizards of the coast after all

[mystic sequoia]

The problem for me is that wizards ain't even getting a lot

its more of a spells thing

if you look at wizards as a class they kinda meh

very bare bones imo

[torpid bronze]

yeah but theyre just the best at spells

[mystic sequoia]

7/20 dead levels

5 more just asi

[torpid bronze]

you gain at least 1 spell slot every level as well tho

dont you?

so you even get to steal the rogues liner power curve

[mystic sequoia]

till level uh

tier 3

they get only 1 per level after that iirc

[glacial cove]

Oh boi, you ain't gonna like this. Because he is the oh so feared Britishman, he is trying to conquer the tabletop world by canging all the books into british spelling

[mystic sequoia]

armour

some armour innit

< Loves british spelling

[glacial cove]

I wouldn't have a problem with Mage Armor if it weren't for the busted duration and ALL THE OTHER SPELLS AND EFFECTS THAT INCREASE THE CASTER'S AC. Of all the things, I hate it exists along Bladesinger's stupid af AC boost. If it weren't for that, I would root for this spell. In fact, I like the upcasting you gave it.

And shield didn't deserve upcasting. Like it or not, that +1 with every level up will matter, though less with every upcast. It effectively means you can pour your low level slots into becoming untouchable, while spending conc. on your very damaging or other battle ending spells.

Props on the player for going full melee with the caster. But that's still a travesty.

Not to mention, Shield is used by many other non-full casters as well. Probably the best spell an EK can use. It's awful.

[glacial cove]

I thought their EI would only let them cast it as a 1st-level spell.

And it's not like they learn the spell with it

[torpid bronze]

shield is like one of the best spells in the game

buffing it is wild 2 me

[mystic sequoia]

A subclass giving ya shield is such a buff

for any class

[idle meteor]

The ei locks, but if they learn it from one of the assorted other sources, pact casting it is pretty worth

[glacial cove]

That "no more than one of which..." was hard to read. Took me several tries to understand what it said.

[idle meteor]

(I also made an illusory armour spell, that lets you Summon certain fake armours, at given levels, but you have to be proficient in the armour)

[idle meteor]

Yeah... Get that.
Never been able to clean up the wording better

[glacial cove]

Oh yeah, that

[crystal thistle]

Hexblade also gives Shield

[mystic sequoia]

Did someone say fix wording?

[glacial cove]

Maybe "...you can cast any number of spells, limited by the required rules for casting time. However, only one of these spells can be of a higher level than that of your Secondary Spell level, as shown in the Secondary Casting table"

Or instead of "required rules" you could say "limited by the actions and reactions you can take". You might say that ignores spells with longer casting times, but those are covered by somewhere in the rules saying you have to spend your action every turn and blah blah blah.

[mystic sequoia]

@crystal thistle I'm too eepy to scroll up

what mistakes did I make on wording?

and formatting

[crystal thistle]

#1113097796954890261 message

[mystic sequoia]

OH SHIT, I kinda like that.

[mystic sequoia]

Fixed

[mystic sequoia]

What about that?

MINOR SPELLING MISTAKE

AHHHH

[crystal thistle]

I like mine more lols,
wait actually im gonna make a change

[mystic sequoia]

I was consideting that you may get other from other resources

[crystal thistle]

There

[crystal thistle]

like what?

[mystic sequoia]

uhhhh

idk

a feat?

a feat would give you one stage 1 property caps

unless you get trained and can improve it

idk maybe you want your Barbarian to have Vector

[crystal thistle]

this feat will be locked to martials right?

[mystic sequoia]

Yes

Just like there are (spellcasting) feats

Like metamagic adept

[crystal thistle]

well ig this solves it so yea, saying "from the ones you chose at 1st" was bad not just bc of that, but also bc it would not allow you to upgrade a property you learned during an ASI level

[mystic sequoia]

why can't I twin spell my sword?

[glacial cove]

.gif

[glacial cove]

To lock it you could require one big physical stat. Like 15 Dex or Str

[fiery needle]

INCREASES BY ONE MORE FOR EVERY SPELL SLOT???

Holy christ

Thats so cracked

[crystal thistle]

its basically +14 to AC if using a 9th level slot

[mystic sequoia]

He's gone mad

[fiery needle]

Omfg

Warlocks

They can just use shield even better now

[crystal thistle]

shield is a +10 to Warlocks max level

[fiery needle]

Oof

Yeah but now its less of a wasted slot cause it scales

[idle meteor]

mhm.
And consider the above.
Increases by 1 per sure.
But thats still only a turn for a slot - and you can still get hit.
Even the 9th level slot - there's still things that can hit, and everything can crit - for 1 turn.
Invuln makes you straight immune to damage for 1 minute.

[autumn crown]

what do stages mean?

ah, nvm, found it

not really considering balance yet, but I think it's alright

[mystic sequoia]

Biggest ones balance-wise are might

and uh, stab

and both are alright by the math I've done

< Not good at math

[mystic sequoia]

There's a table Ovion sent avobe w the exact calculations for might n such

But I don't understand much

[mystic sequoia]

Anything jumps out as bad?

Or confusing

etc

that's mainly what I'm looking for

clarity

n fun factor

[autumn crown]

how is whip cleave

[mystic sequoia]

@crystal thistle

That's his idea

[autumn crown]

Arco

you are wrong

[mystic sequoia]

Cuz y'know

prety anime boys use whips as aoe

And tbh it doesn't break anything, does it?

[autumn crown]

[mystic sequoia]

Something from castlevania

https://tenor.com/view/castlevania-trevor-belmont-cadena-y-latigo-gif-21741715

this

[autumn crown]

heh, vector whip trait is literally a spell I just finished today

[mystic sequoia]

The one for space?

think I saw it

[autumn crown]

ye

[mystic sequoia]

Yeee

Love me some space spells

[autumn crown]

so... vector is kinda op tbh

saveless forced movement, with multiattack that's an easy 30 feet of movement

or... 130 feet at max level

if you are within a quarter mile of any environmental danger, that's a potential instagib

[mystic sequoia]

That's an exploit

So

thanks

gotta fix it

[autumn crown]

[mystic sequoia]

Any recomendations?

[autumn crown]

from my own cantrip I was just working on: forcing enemy movement is very strong

especially with no size requirements or save

like, whip man slaps terrasque and sends it flying into nearby ravine

also, you can hurl upwards

can only imagine if you were like, on a ship, where even 10 feet of movement is enough to remove many enemies from a fight by throwing overboard

[mystic sequoia]

First

only once per turn?

[autumn crown]

perhaps

[mystic sequoia]

and, you forego damage to use the property

[autumn crown]

oh no 1d4

oh 1d6 now, still not much

[mystic sequoia]

How do you word the hurl to be floor limited?

[autumn crown]

even 5 feet of movement btw is pretty good, it's a free disengage for your ally

[autumn crown]

I'd keep the hurl limited to the movement of the whip, maybe the bonus is if you would move them into a wall/object they then take the additional damage

[autumn crown]

"A creature of your size or smaller" might be cleaner

[mystic sequoia]

fair

[autumn crown]

still unsure if Iike stage 2 doubling the distance you throw

[crystal thistle]

Whips are AOE damage

I will not change my mind

https://tenor.com/view/trevor-trevor-belmont-castlevania-s4-castlevania-gif-21847189

[autumn crown]

that is a magic whip

[crystal thistle]

a whip nonetheless

[autumn crown]

a "normal whip" is not a weapon

[crystal thistle]

ok well thats a fair point

[autumn crown]

it should be an improvised weapon if anything

[crystal thistle]

but we are of course talking abt whips as weapons

which, whips ARE a type of weapon in DND

[mystic sequoia]

The dnd "whip" is more like that rope with a weigh on the end

[autumn crown]

it shouldn't even be a weapon option imo lol

[mystic sequoia]

imo

[crystal thistle]

I disagree

[autumn crown]

isn't that like... a flail or something?

[mystic sequoia]

There's a specific weapon

[crystal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/trevor-belmont-castlevania-alucard-tepes-gif-9203887

[mystic sequoia]

that's like

[autumn crown]

kuserigama or something?

[mystic sequoia]

I think so?

[crystal thistle]

the fantasy of the whip wielder is 1000% valid

[mystic sequoia]

No

the other one

[crystal thistle]

thats completely different from a whip or a flail lol

https://tenor.com/view/flail-dog-flail-dog-cute-playing-gif-16571698

[autumn crown]

I believe a non-anime character with a whip could only reasonably focus one target with it at a time

5e is a bit more grounded in reality... not that much but a little

[mystic sequoia]

more like this

I've seen it on tik tok

you basically build momentum w it

[autumn crown]

I see cleave as like, the swing continues from the original target to hit more targets

[mystic sequoia]

then shoot it

[crystal thistle]

"5e is grounded in reality" brother we throw balls of fire

[mystic sequoia]

I did accept whip as cleave because if you want to play that fantasy

it breaks nothing

[autumn crown]

fair, it's not on the base list for whip

[mystic sequoia]

i think

[mystic sequoia]

The base list has a property that the weapon has by default, you can learn other properties and build from there

[autumn crown]

though if you wanna let crazy inventive techniques be valid, imo you should include a rule that just says "If you can convince your DM a weapon should have a technique, it can have it"

[mystic sequoia]

That's what fighters get

I just need to pass it to this doc

They basically can get any weapon with any property

At some point

[crystal thistle]

for the records
I did not wanted Whips to get Cleave, I wanted AOE around the character

[idle meteor]

didja know, 5e whips should look more like this
they were used mainly on peasants for 'crowd control' and fear, and if used as a weapon would be flipped, and the handle used as a club to beat them.

follow up - bullwhips, like they are presented in D&D/RPGs, would do like, 1 slashing at exactly the range of the tip of the whip, and nothing against armour

this has been another episode of "ruining stuff with history" with Ovion

[crystal thistle]

I want 30ft long whips

[idle meteor]

those exist.
And they would do 1 slashing, at 30ft exactly. 😉

[crystal thistle]

that seems fair

see, thats gotta be at least 15ft

I want thorn whip as a weapon

[mystic sequoia]

Well tbf

1d4+4 of 100 is basically 1

Won't kill ya, will hurt

[autumn crown]

a magic whip that is just thorn whip honestly... could work

[crystal thistle]

No I want a normal whip, but that does what thorn whip does, but not thorny

[idle meteor]

a commoner has 4 hit points.

Also, I said 1, not 1+stat 😉

1d4+stat is crazy generous to the whip, and pure fantasy, which is fine for the sake of fantasy here

[mystic sequoia]

I bet I can kill someone

with a whip

1v1 ovion

my whip vs your cane

[idle meteor]

I win.
For the simple fact, you have to hit me over 50 times, at optimal distance for me to die.
I just have to block the whip with the stick while moving towards you, then bonk you with a metal chunk on a stick a few times

[mystic sequoia]

You are no taking into acount my youth

I can push u over

[idle meteor]

maybe if you can get in and strangle me to death with it, but... iunno that doesn't really feel like it counts

[crystal thistle]

Faye you went to art school dont give yourself that much credit /j/lh

[mystic sequoia]

I won't use choke tactics

that's low

[idle meteor]

I have a cane, 3rd leg for balance

[mystic sequoia]

I also did two years of muay thai

And I'm mediocre at it

can ovion say the same?

[crystal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-read-gif-22252869

[idle meteor]

what do they call it now uh

hema?

like 6 years of that

[mystic sequoia]

I can kick your cane

No sword, no hema

[idle meteor]

I'm better with an arming sword and dagger, or two long blades (10-14"), but I was always OK with a staff or polearm and hammer

never really did much shield or spear work funnily enough

and obv these days, I'm looking more at short-stave and hammer work

though I am halfway a cripple so

[mystic sequoia]

That's my advantage

I'm young

I can jump

and tackle

[idle meteor]

the real disadvantage is that doesn't bother me

[mystic sequoia]

Who gets home advantage?

[idle meteor]

doesn't really make much of a difference - so long as it's not over 30c, I don't care xD

[mystic sequoia]

It matters cuz there's stakes

a 4.000 dollar flight

If I put 4.000 dollars in the line no way I'm losing

[glacial cove]

What about the closest rabbin?

[mystic sequoia]

rabbin?

[idle meteor]

ok, but... for a start, you're using a bullwhip.
Which... I'm guessing you don't have much experience with? xD
This is a silly hypothetical anyway, but ultimately it comes down to that I feel

[mystic sequoia]

I'm using a bullwhip?

Specifically?

aim for the head

[idle meteor]

thats this type at any rate

[mystic sequoia]

you've got no armor

[crystal thistle]

💀 I dont think HEMA practitioners encourage dual wielding

[mystic sequoia]

I have long hair

I have face and head protection

[idle meteor]

who doesn't have long hair? o-o

[mystic sequoia]

shit

beard?

I can't grow a beard

[idle meteor]

usually majestic yes

[mystic sequoia]

So, you have to shave it

same conditions

[crystal thistle]

Ovion is exactly how I imagined him

[idle meteor]

it's a bit sad atm, cos I just shaved it down to 1/2" for summer

[mystic sequoia]

An old man?

with phylosopher beard

or however you write that

For his love of math I just imagine Plato

Or sumth

[idle meteor]

I mean, HEMA is a relatively new term?
But two knives, or sword + dagger are very valid hema things.
Cos it's classical medieval and ren combat methods

[mystic sequoia]

We ain't respecting medieval rules

If we do, I have pocket sand

So, Instantly win

[fiery needle]

HEMA def does dual wielding

[mystic sequoia]

cuz you pbbly have glasses

[idle meteor]

I didn't say rules, just, that HEMA is fuckin broad in its definition

[glacial cove]

Because they recognize its superiority, hence why they are too afraid to fight against it

[idle meteor]

like... what... almost 1,000 years of assorted martial arts across europe?

[glacial cove]

It broke the meta

[idle meteor]

or at least 500

[fiery needle]

Ive def seen HEMA matches with dual wielding

[mystic sequoia]

Do you use glasses ovion?

[idle meteor]

only cos my eyesights fucked

they broke today

[mystic sequoia]

Thought so

[idle meteor]

and cost me £120

I am unpleased

[mystic sequoia]

I'm at genetic advantage

good signt, young, no cane

I can overpower your hema

With my

whip?

[fiery needle]

Pff

[mystic sequoia]

how tf do u use whips?

[fiery needle]

By whipping them

[idle meteor]

: )

[glacial cove]

When in doubt, whip it out

[idle meteor]

with very specific wrist motions, and practice.
it's a very flashy, telegraphed thing

[idle meteor]

also, reasonable odds I have more hair

[crystal thistle]

right, I was referencing two long blades you said

[mystic sequoia]

How long?

I have 70 cm of hair rn

[idle meteor]

think seax or dussaks

[mystic sequoia]

I just need distance

easy, bet you're not as fast

[idle meteor]

last I measured it in march, just over 29", so 74cm

[mystic sequoia]

I did three years of gimnastics

[idle meteor]

it's gonna be around 31-33" now I think

[crystal thistle]

Seax I can see it, Idk that they would encourage dussaks
althought, i was thinking much longer blades 💀 this does make it more doable

[mystic sequoia]

So, I can use it to my advantage

pull your hair

[glacial cove]

Drop the whip
Pull his hair
Use him as whip

[crystal thistle]

I'm pretty sure overall dual wielding is mostly not encouraged, a free hand is always optimal
unless its a parry dagger, but parry daggers werent an everyday thing

[idle meteor]

ohye, I said, 10-14" xD Long knives, not swords.
The ones where you can use em effectively fore and reverse grip

[crystal thistle]

bold of you to assume I can read lenghts

[mystic sequoia]

Can't drop my main weapon

If we drop our main weapons is game over

the other has advantage

[idle meteor]

that'd be... 25-35cm

[mystic sequoia]

If I can prone ovion (quite easily)

[crystal thistle]

bold of you to assume I can read lenghts, at all

[crystal thistle]

what is this becoming

[idle meteor]

about a forearm

[glacial cove]

Duck tape his hair to your whip

[crystal thistle]

only blade?

[idle meteor]

yeah, grip extra

[crystal thistle]

hmmmmmmm, idk, I havent seen a dussaks in 6 years lol

[idle meteor]

There's this really interesting shit with blades, where if it's shorter than your wrist your your elbow, it uses one set of muscles in your arm - making it more effective used with downwards motions, and if it's longer, it's more effective with swinging motions

[glacial cove]

But have you seen some duke's ass?

[crystal thistle]

no

[idle meteor]

so with one that's the length of your forearm, with the right grip, you can use it in either orientation as effectively

[mystic sequoia]

How long is your cane?

60 cm?

A meter?

[crystal thistle]

ehhh idk, I havent used a blade other than my foil in a very long time, so i dont remember what type of stress they would put on my arm as a whole

[glacial cove]

You fool, it's a folding cane, it can be whatever length he wants

[crystal thistle]

bro, size isnt matter you cant go around asking like that

[mystic sequoia]

It does matter

If ovion <6 feet, I win

[crystal thistle]

that would be a helioscope cane i dont remember what it was called

[idle meteor]

Something I intend to either get made when I have the money, or make myself if I get a space where I can set up a workshop, is these

[glacial cove]

This is no longer a battle of the wits, it's a battle of the dicks

Unless we are comparing how many foot each has

[idle meteor]

that... doesn't make much sense. xD

I need a 36" cane

[mystic sequoia]

It does, I'd have a height advantage

[idle meteor]

ok, but you're using a whip.

[glacial cove]

Bold words from someone within dick punching height

[mystic sequoia]

I'm 5'11

180 cm

And bold of you to assume I have a dick

[glacial cove]

I'm 3'

[mystic sequoia]

3'

Pocket size

[glacial cove]

I might be off from a cm or two, it will still hurt

[mystic sequoia]

Why are you fighting me now???

[glacial cove]

I'm just very well folded

[mystic sequoia]

What

[idle meteor]

so here's the thing

[glacial cove]

Not you specifically, I just promote chaos

[idle meteor]

you have a roughly 2 second telegraph to strike with that whip

probably more not being experienced with it

I'm not, and it'd likely take me 4-5 seconds to get it rolling at least, so

there that

[glacial cove]

If I have learned anything from videogames, you can just dodge the whip by stepping into its curve, or dashing under it for straight attacks

[mystic sequoia]

That's fair

I'd have to learn whip combat on the fly

[idle meteor]

even at 2 seconds though, that's a lot of time for you to also have me stay at specifically, the point you can actually do damage

[glacial cove]

Or you can just catch it with your mouth and suck it like spaghetti

[idle meteor]

rather than close the 10? feet and hit you with an ersatz mace or warhammer

[mystic sequoia]

wHY DO you have more weapons?

nah, only cane

[crystal thistle]

just go watch Castlevania

[glacial cove]

Ok, but it's rude if you move, it's not your turn

[mystic sequoia]

If you get a secondary weapon, I also do

[crystal thistle]

pick me pick me

[glacial cove]

I choose gun with bullets

[idle meteor]

that is the cane.

Er·satz
substitute or imitation

[mystic sequoia]

Didn't know that

Ok, well

how well do u tolerate pain?

[idle meteor]

inversely

[glacial cove]

Physical or emotional?

[mystic sequoia]

I had to leave muai thay cuz of several wounds caused by what was literally torture

[idle meteor]

I am a complete bitch against pinpricks, and have not noticed getting stabbed in the past

[mystic sequoia]

So

A whip is lethal against you

[glacial cove]

A whip made out of pinpricks?

[mystic sequoia]

cuz its smol dmg

[idle meteor]

no, a whip is a slash.
I'm not sure how I'd react to the cut of a whip tbh.
But you'd have to hit me first.

[glacial cove]

Grab a knife and test it

[mystic sequoia]

Fair

outside of whip combat

I'd win 70/30

whip combat, pbbly lose 20/80

[idle meteor]

I'm gonna go with "depends heavily on a ton of stuff"

xD

[mystic sequoia]

Punches and kicks tho? 100/0

no chance

ez win

not even close baby

[glacial cove]

Economy? 0/100

[mystic sequoia]

That's dangerous

Don't

This is a mere hypotetical

where I fly to london and fight him in the big ben

[idle meteor]

maybe, I'm not amazing at unarmed.
I mainly fight similar to... which one uses hands and knees a lot?

[mystic sequoia]

Do you know how to fight?

I doubt it /lh

[glacial cove]

Hand Knee

Fu

[idle meteor]

is it muat thai actually? xD

[glacial cove]

Probably

[idle meteor]

iunno, it's not that, but someone said it was similar to that at one point (whichever one it is, I honestly forget)

[glacial cove]

I would say K1, but they barely if ever use knees

[idle meteor]

cos it's more... I am terrible with names

basically, it's a specific street self defence martial art

[mystic sequoia]

mhm

[idle meteor]

that I was tought, but never went far with

[glacial cove]

I don't know that one, but my next guess was gonna be MMA

[idle meteor]

and it's similar to some other stuff, but it's not actually structured to rules or an arena

it's specifically about self defence

[mystic sequoia]

and that's why it was awful

I'm a twink

Got the shit beat out of me

Several times

[idle meteor]

I mean, it's awful for a structured martial art with tournaments

[glacial cove]

If you ever get a name, tag me

[idle meteor]

its saved my butt irl a few times

[glacial cove]

I haven't seen this one in action, but what if it is kravmaga

[idle meteor]

the key... concepts? strategies? are basically:
Expect you'll be in close / at a disadavantage
Aim for soft spots with elbows/knees with short, sharp strikes

[glacial cove]

I never expected there to be a Street Fight martial arts, cause things there work different

Like, it's less about martial, and more of a doing whatever it works

[idle meteor]

ye, it's a martial art in the same way that classic martial arts are - ways to actually fight

[mystic sequoia]

Yep, not much philosophy or spirituality iirc

[idle meteor]

so the focus is on knowing what you can do to end things quickly and either incapacitate/kill the opponent to prevent risk to yourself

[glacial cove]

To be fair, not all martial arts involve spirituality or philosophy

I mean common ones

[idle meteor]

what's really, really fun - especially here, iunno how much in other places, but people don't expect you to go for the nuts

even criminals, it's ingrained as 'poor form'

[glacial cove]

The philosophy of not killing your partner in combat, maybe

[idle meteor]

so often, muggers or people starting shit leave their soft, vulnerable danglies wide open

[mystic sequoia]

Yep

[glacial cove]

"The gentlemens oath"

[mystic sequoia]

A good kick can be incapacitating

Or, at least open a window where you can maneuver better

[glacial cove]

When you kick their nuts, but their nuts kick you back

[mystic sequoia]

Not to undermine every other part of the body

I was hit in the jaw once due to poor defense

That sucked ass

[glacial cove]

Not to mention when you hurt yourself in the process

[mystic sequoia]

That's also a thing I said the other day

not everyone can throw a punch

You can punch but, most people I've met would totally hurt themselves by the 2nd punch

[glacial cove]

Sure, not like it has to do with the opponent having a good block

[mystic sequoia]

There are many factors

[glacial cove]

Yup

[idle meteor]

yeah

[mystic sequoia]

once I got into a scrap in class

Its very complicated in the situation

[idle meteor]

it's part of why the self defence thing is elbows and knees - less small bones to break, less risk to you, and allows your forerms to be focused on defence

cos if you expect to get cut, and cut on the forearm, but don't need that bit to fight, you can end things quicker

it's really fucking rough to do, but an effective method of defence, is block a stab with your arm - you may or may not get hit, but assume you probably will - but assume and ignore that your arm will get fucked up
leaving your other arm free to go in to end it (assuming you have a weapon ideally)

[glacial cove]

I hurt my finger doing a spar with someone without using any protective gear. I think I hit his elbow when going for a lateral, I didn't notice at the moment. It has been two weeks and it hasn't recovered fully

[mystic sequoia]

Mhm

That's why we used equipment to spar

and even still

Tho the trainer did recommend hitting the wall to create wounds on the knuckles and make them stronger

DON'T DO IT

BAD IDEA ALARM

[glacial cove]

The inflamation went away first week, pain greatly diminished when moving the finger, however, I have yet to fully contract or extend my finger without feeling some pain at the base of the knuckle

[idle meteor]

wall is a bit hard, unless padded for it.
They tend to use sand for a reason

[glacial cove]

Regardless I was told I should tap the wall softly to fix the placement of my fingers (aka, I can't form a flat fist), they also told me to do knuckle push ups.

Or maybe it wasn't them, I can't remember that detail

[mystic sequoia]

I'm specifically talking about uh

what do u call when skin becomes hard?

[idle meteor]

calloused

[mystic sequoia]

like when you play guitar

that

[idle meteor]

but the sand is hard, and rough, and will toughen the skin
but it also has give, and is soft enough to not break anything, or fuck you up (done right)
punching brick is none of that. xD

[glacial cove]

I feel like two weeks is the right time to wait before going to a doctor, but I don't have the money nor the time.

[mystic sequoia]

I did say it was very bad class

He would kick us while doing push ups to train

[glacial cove]

I've been applying cold and hot compresses (almost daily) and bandaging my hand for a while

[mystic sequoia]

Yeah, I'd say at least check with someone who knows

[glacial cove]

Hehe, I haven't had something as brutal, but we did have an introductory excercise once that was receiving kicks

Fun stuff

[glacial cove]

Sadly I don't anyone that knows at a somewhat profesional/experienced degree.

[idle meteor]

free clinic time then?

[glacial cove]

We don't have that, as far as I'm aware

[idle meteor]

what country?

[glacial cove]

You either have medical whatsicalled or not

Which can cover a lot of the expenses

As long as it's not a particular doctor

One that doesn't work on a nonassociated stablishment

But it's mostly about time, I don't want to make time for this. Specially since it the issue wasn't major and it is recovering

Way too slow for my taste, but I just have a terrible healing factor

[crystal thistle]

@mystic sequoia

found another editing mistake

uhhh give me a sec

[mystic sequoia]

Before you send it

Gotta compliment your pfp

lookig dapper

[crystal thistle]

thanks love

[mystic sequoia]

Is it a comission?

[crystal thistle]

Topple is two times in the barbarian

[crystal thistle]

nah what’s it called the thingy that everyone uses

[mystic sequoia]

picrew

[crystal thistle]

yes

[mystic sequoia]

Thx, on it

btw

this might be one of the

if not the

[crystal thistle]

also
considering that Barbarians start with 4 Javelins as part of their equipment, I think they should have access to Slow

[mystic sequoia]

longest forum ever in this server

Maybe

we're almost 3k messages in

[crystal thistle]

half of it isn’t dnd

[mystic sequoia]

Never claimed that

Buuuut

I'm the op, I think I deserve a price

[mystic sequoia]

Ohh

fair, fair

What do you think of the new trained btw?