#Adaptive Layer Height Not Working?

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novel tide
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Hey! I click an object, click the adaptive layer height button, and the menu pops up. No matter what the values are in the menu, the layers do not change at all i.e. they are pure white with no changes applied. I need your help!

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Thanks for being awesome

remote schooner
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you need to click on the blue line on the right and drag you mouswe on it

novel tide
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yeah that makes them change, but when I click "Adaptive" there it resets it to pure white like it is in the picture

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it's supposed to become red and green automatically, I haven't ever had to manually do it

remote schooner
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which version of orca

novel tide
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the newest one I think

remote schooner
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when you click on the adaptive button it works

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novel tide
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nope it stays white

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to be clear, I clicked the button with "Adaptive" on it too

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remote schooner
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are you clicking on this button

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novel tide
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yeah that's how you do it automatically

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it just resets it to white like the reset button do

remote schooner
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adaptive and smooth are working

novel tide
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I wish mine were too

remote schooner
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did you move the slider to a new value?

novel tide
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yeah

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click the button and it resets

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remote schooner
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you can do the buttons or the right hand slider not both

novel tide
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I know, I only did that to illustrate that the "Adaptive" button resets everything to white instead of working as intended

remote schooner
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post your 3mf file

novel tide
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ok I made a new project and it worked for a cylinder, I had closed the program and made a new project already and it didn't fix it. Let me see if it is just working now

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for no reason that I am aware of >.>.>.>.> computers are fun

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nope okay this is weird

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I added a cynlinder primitive and it was able to do the adaptive layer height, but once I loaded in my STLs it reset and now doesn't work again

remote schooner
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post the 3mf file ill have a look

novel tide
remote schooner
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did you select objects first?

novel tide
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you can't open the adaptive layer height menu unless you have an object selected, and you have to do them individually

remote schooner
novel tide
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wait lms what that does

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yeah I selected each object individually through thta menu and the same thing happened

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as soon as I selected the cylinder and clicked "Adaptive" it turned from red to all white

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ok added one model individually and it did it

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but once I add the second one and click Adaptive nothing happens, and when I go back to the original added model that successfully was adaptive layer height sliced, it now resets it back to white

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when I click the "Adaptive" button

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I guess I will just have to make a separate project file for each object lol

remote schooner
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i can use your file ok,, BBS

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all 3 with varible layer height , have you sliced the plate to see if its ok

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novel tide
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how can I tell if it is sliced in adaptive layer height based on the sliced plate?

remote schooner
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changes the sliver view to layer height

novel tide
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only the initial object is adaptive, and only remains so as long as I do not try to "Adaptive" button it again, because that would make it reset to white and refuse to be adaptive'd again

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remote schooner
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are you using windows linux etc?

novel tide
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Windows 11

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it's weird because I haven't had trouble with it before. I just finished doing a calilantern thing so maybe that messed it up somehow but idk how

remote schooner
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its very odd just tried it on my other pc works on that 2 but they are both win 10

novel tide
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yeah I bugged my stuff out bad this time I guess

remote schooner
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its doing it to me now but dont know why

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if you open the project and do variable layer height it works o, but then if you click on one of the parts again it stops working correctly

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@faint comet can you replicate this undisclosed software feature

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down load the project above set varibal e layer height for each object , "slice " then go back and try to edit the height

faint comet
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Well I can tell you that it is working fine when I load primitives into the latest nightly. Let me check the project...

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Same for the project, works good in v2.3.1-alpha/nightly

remote schooner
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so if you go back and click on one of the parts does it not go white ? and can you still add the variable height

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@faint comet hit the adaptive button, then it all fails

novel tide
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I'm sorry it is happening to you too, but it is good to know that it's not just me being stupid

faint comet
remote schooner
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by the way what did you use to capture the video

faint comet
remote schooner
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im on windows

novel tide
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anyone have any idea what I can do to fix this?

remote schooner
novel tide
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yes and I just watched it again, and here's why it doesn't help; He's on Linux, and his program is functioning fine. This almost definitely means that the bug is restricted to Windows, the bug which you were able to confirm exists on your Windows machine. I am likewise (and have always been) able to manually adjust the layer lines using the bar thing on the right of the screen, but that isn't related to my problem in any way. When I click "Adaptive" it resets the whole object to default instead of applying adaptive layer height

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This bug affects every project that has more than one object

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including brand new projects

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and, like, that video doesn't offer any solutions, even if he were on a Windows machine himself 🙁

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I hate it when I mess things up and I have no idea what I did or how I did it

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well, I take that back, sometimes in certain situations that can be a lot of fun, but not this time lol

novel tide
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threw science at the wall to see what stuck, un/reinstalled Orca, the bug was nice and gone until I copied my backed-up profiles and then the problem happens again. Grasping for straws here, but are my acceleration settings being messed up to blame for this?

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the error it gives is weird considering the limits I have in place

remote schooner
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im on a windows pc running the alpa version

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so far so good

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i can also go back in and modify the layers

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faint comet
remote schooner
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im on win 10 with Alpha night build at the moment

faint comet
# novel tide threw science at the wall to see what stuck, un/reinstalled Orca, the bug was ni...

That shouldn't have anythig to do with the layer heights, but I can tell you that error is misleading because of the feature label. The setting Max acceleration for extruding does not refer to the accel of the extrud_er_, but rather to the accel of the X/Y axes during moves that including extrud_ing_. It's really very poor wording, but the devil is in the details. You will need to set that at or higher than the accels in your Process profile, or reduce those to be less than this one.

novel tide
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thank you for the help again ya'll, I'm still on 2.3.0 if that matters

faint comet
remote schooner
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i can try the 2.3.0 later when im on that PC

novel tide
faint comet
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I think at one point I had 5 different versions of Orca all installed simultaneously.

novel tide
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I experience the same thing with 2.3.1 nightly

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I saw there was a profile validator in the download page, maybe that is worth a check

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ahh that is only more error messages

remote schooner
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ok just tried win 10 orca v2.3.0

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all seems to be ok

novel tide
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all's well until the profiles are loaded

remote schooner
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you mean your profiles?

novel tide
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yeah the ones I zipped and uploaded

remote schooner
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ok let me look

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@novel tide i carnt import your archive for some reason

novel tide
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I am not sure of the procedure but I copied that from %appdata%/Orcaslicer/ (C:\Users\rabro\AppData\Roaming\OrcaSlicer)

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i then had to copy the folders inside 893671622 over/into the default profiles in order to get it to load them

remote schooner
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send me a 3mf file might be easier

novel tide
faint comet
remote schooner
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that doesnt bring in your printer so it could be your profile is corrupt

faint comet
novel tide
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how can I Noah's ark my profile to get the proper settings out? My brain is corrupt 🫨

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I was trying to figure out the account thing, I must have set that up immediately after installing Orca because I don't remember doing it through Bambu but clearly I did so

remote schooner
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just swap your printer for one out of orca

novel tide
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like I should delete my current printer and get the default printer profile that OpenNept4une gives and reset my settings to that? I would like to transfer as much as I can if possible in the process

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Did I mess up a setting somewhere, or is this just a product of entropy and it just corrupted because that's how computers are?

remote schooner
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its possible the file got messed up between versions we have seen the odd file go a bit strange

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with your elegoo file above

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novel tide
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that is good to see that it works right on yours. Is there any way to copy the printer profile settings over? I can do it manually no problem, just want to see if there are other options first lol

remote schooner
novel tide
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okay it is something to do with my acceleration values because it was working until I messed with them

remote schooner
novel tide
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just found the "fix." If the "Adaptive" button acts like the "Reset" button, all one has to do is switch to a different printer in that dropdown box and then switch back to the desired profile. Then, the "Adaptive" button works as expected

remote schooner
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can we call this fixed now?

novel tide
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It is clear to me that we are not seeing the same thing when we watch that video. His video showed him manually adjusting the layer height using the right-most weird adaptive bar graph slider, slicing it, and then checking to see that the manually adjusted adaptive layers he set were slicing correctly. My "fix" has nothing to do with that, and it is in airquotes because at best it is a bandage. I just watched his video again, and he does not experience the "Adaptive" button acting like the "Reset" button, which completely invalidates the video anyways

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So, do with it what you like? I've been trying to get the problem figured out while being told how to fix or do something completely different

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I am just glad that I figured out a way to get around this glaring bug that should be addressed

remote schooner
novel tide
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I was *always able to manually adjust the layer height using the thing that I feel unnecessarily needs to be pointed out by these big red arrows. That was never a problem

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and they would always make it through the final slice

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my problem is that the adaptive button would reset that meter on the right to pure white instead of doing adaptive layer heights

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now that I figured out how to work it, this is what that cone should look like when I click the Adaptive button

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without the fix, clicking the Adaptive button turns it back to default like so

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so I am forced to toggle printers in order to get around this bug

remote schooner
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i can only get it back to white if i hit the reset button

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hitting the "adative " button gives me this

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hitting "smooth" once gives me this

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if i hit "adaptive "again

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"reset" this

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novel tide
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yeah it's really weird, I am totally clueless as to why mine is different. It's a fresh install minus the profiles, I deleted its folder in Roaming before installing the nightly

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sorry about being gruff, I've been having a lot of issues with that lately but I am actively working on it

remote schooner
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just tried multiple parts just incase that made a difference, but was ok

faint comet
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In my video, the only reason I adjusted layers with the slider was to show that changes were made, so you could see that when I hit the adaptive button it reverted those changes back to what the slicer automatically chooses. At no point in my testing - in or out of the video - did hitting the adapt button ever turn everything all white (or any other solid color).

faint comet
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I'VE GOT IT!!! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a bug!

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After clicking Adaptive the first time, changing any setting in the Machine, Filament, or Process profiles instantly breaks the Adaptive button (even if the changed setting was immediately changed back before clicking on Adaptive for the second time). Here is a video from Windows 10 using the OrcaSlicer v2.3.1-alpha release:

faint comet
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I DO get this issue with the latest Nightly version on my Linux system, but on both systems ONLY with the project 3MF provided by Goobtacular. If I load a new project with my own models into my own machine, everything works as intended. Seems there is either something corrupted, or one of the model files or a setting is forcing the bug. More testing is needed to narrow it down further, and I will try to work on that later today.

@remote schooner I used OBS Studio for the capture (set output FPS to 10 and format to MP4). Think I will switch to using this on my Linux system too since it works really well and keeps file sizes small (bonus: it's free and open-source).

novel tide
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I totally missed the update here, sorry about that! I'm still just dealing with the problem by changing printers and making adaptive layers be the first thing I do after changing

faint comet
novel tide
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Yes, it's universal