#Put back strait of Gibraltar crossing

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spark bobcat
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The AI is terrible with naval invasions, being able to cross the strait would help a lot with Iberian and North African AI.

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half storm
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It would be nice to see a mix. If both sides are controlled (maybe if they both have a suitable port/docks-like building too?) then armies can pass normally. Maybe faster/enhanced crossings in the area even if you don't control it.

It should still be blocked if blockaded though, it shouldn't only care about control like EU4.

gaunt herald
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As long as the ai has a navy, it’s actually pretty good at doing naval invasions.

spark bobcat
gaunt herald
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Yes they do. My subjects are constantly landing in Tunis to help me invade Tunis as Two Sicilies.

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“Helping” being they go sit on a fort and get wiped by themselves, but it’s the thought that counts.

mortal totem
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I have allied france since 1400 and they parked their armies in gibraltar for next 300 years. never have they managed to cross over to north africa

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not even to defend their own colony in west africa

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even if I put enough transports on the strait to cross

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my colonies are somehow better

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ANYWAYS, my point is we need better naval AI - i dont like the idea of crossing without boats though, clearly doesnt make sense at that kinda distance

gaunt herald
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I’ve never seen the ai take someone else’s transports. Might be the case where France/ai just doesn’t have ships to transport with.

versed wedge
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yer france doesnt start with much

olive river
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This would essentially be an admission of defeat by the devs on naval warfare and would have to be paired with a straight of Dover crossing as well for consistency. If they really can’t get the AI to work fine, but it should be a last resort.

tame oyster
olive river
# tame oyster the strait of gibraltar at its narrowest is about 15km apart the strait of dover...

And you can cross both with about the same level of difficulty. Additionally England needs to invade France at the start of the game while an eternal stalemate between Morrocco and Spain is pretty much fine, as Iberians never expanded into North Africa and Morocco’s Iberian holdings were all lost and never reclaimed. So if this is being done for gameplay reasons, and that’s the only reason to do it, a Dover crossing is actually more important so the HYW can actually happen.

versed wedge
olive river
# versed wedge AI france would just eat England if their was a strait

And AI Spain would just eat Morocco, your point? The issue is that the AI can’t handle cross-strait warfare due to the need for transports and the proposed solution is to remove the need for transports by adding a strait to a region which historically did not see a cross-strait empire after the early stage of the game.

versed wedge
olive river
versed wedge
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the issue isnt the use of transports but how many it utilises, bc you land 400 men a time over , AI or Human that stack it getting killed

versed wedge
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France just cant retaliate bc ENG navy is stronger at game start

olive river
versed wedge
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i oft see ENG ocupy one or 2 french areas if it gets off to a start, but the peace is of 1/2 of aquitane and the calis ajacent area

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AI will also not cross if it thinks it will just die

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ive been playing Sweden (fk you Norway stop starting wars) and Norway crossed so many times to lose battles that he gave my land in the peace despite no occupations

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PU's need to be retuned, i hoped my random wars would stop when i elected the unified external diplomacy

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but no i dont think we should have the straits , Human will always be better at that stuff than an AI , and it makes MP more interesting when naval is needed more