#Byzantine should be allowed to reform Roman Empire (EDIT: IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A BUG)

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half rivet
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mint quiver
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They already are the roman empire

topaz halo
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This is because it already is the Roman Empire. Eu5 treats all Roman Empire claimaints the same. So Byzantium, The Holy Roman Empire, and Russia are all tier 4 formables

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And the roman empire is also a tier four formable

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the idea is you cant reform Rome as any of those because you already are the Roman Empire

ancient estuary
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I disagree. The Eastern Roman Empire is the Roman Empire, so how can it reform itself?

topaz halo
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The Roman Empire, Byzantium, The Holy Roman Empire, Ottomans/Rum (Rum is for non ottoman beyliks), and Russia are all tier 4 formables

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Because the idea is in the game as a player their equally valid (even if not historically)

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Because besides Byzantium which just was the roman empire, the others claimed to be the Roman Empire, so why would they form the Roman Empire if they are the Roman Empire?

low roost
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Also can't you just set byz to be called the Roman Empire in game rules anyway? That's all formables really are anyway.

topaz halo
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you cant do anything more than that because it'd conflict with/confuse with other formables like the Roman Empire and Romania

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but theres mods for that

half rivet
topaz halo
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because it'd confuse with the other roman empire formable

weary island
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It would be interesting to allow byzantium to reform back into a roman republic however.

half rivet
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Would be good as a flavor option for the age of revolution or absolutism

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Just like the reviving Hellenic religion event chain

ancient estuary
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I am assuming that the reason why some people want the ERE to be able to form the Roman Empire is that the Tier 4 Formable does get some uber-powerful advances, reforms, and laws, where as the ERE's flavor is...lacking. I assume the next DLC should correct that.

thorny dew
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Even a cosmetic rename would be nice, from eastern roman empire to roman empire for example.

vocal charm
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People just want achievement of restoring rome

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and people want a point where that becomes true

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instead of leaving it lucid

weary island
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I think instead of forming a country it makes more sense to have either a cosmetic change following alongside an event when reconquering the province of Rome and Milan which unlocks a Government Policy giving you the Option to either ;

Recombine the Empire officially which would give you probably Centralization sway with some malus, or the option to keep them separate which gives you Decentralization

If you choose to recombine , then the name Dynamically changes to Roman Empire, and if you choose the other, you retain Eastern Roman Empire or Byzantine Empire

topaz halo
pallid rose
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I do think this is a bug tbch

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This is the code for the decision

past parrot
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c:BYZ is a string comparison

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those will never return true

pallid rose
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sweet

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the wiki says byz should be able to form it so that made me want to check the code for it lol

past parrot
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needs a bug report

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so someone coordinate and make a bug report please

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(not multiple)

pallid rose
past parrot
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god bless

pallid rose
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I thought putting it in quotes would disable that???

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w/e, it's still understandable

topaz halo
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Apparently its just bugged 😭

half rivet
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Bruh...

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What a bug