Daily rotating banner priority

[south ravine]

my current priority list for new players is something like this

1. clem e0 (rerun)
2. thais e2 + thais wheel (echoing wishes)
3. horla e1 + horla wheel (echoing wishes)
4. gmurphy e0 + gmurphy wheel (echoing wishes)
5. murphy e0 (rerun)

nevermind, the rerun is not until june

anyway pull thais, horla, gmurphy, clem, and maybe castor

[alpine horizon]

is there any specification as to why these units are must haves?

i mean other than thais lol

[south ravine]

just good units and wheels

see my new player handbook

[alpine horizon]

I have it open constantly dw, but that would mean that going for mouchette would not be a bad idea either? Since u need like 5 teams for an endgame mode i heard

[south ravine]

the thing about the echoing wishes banner is

it randomly gives either the unit or the wheel

you cant choose

so you have to be ok with getting either

the 3 units i suggested also have op wheels

so its fine if you miss a few times

mouchette wheel is only good on a highly invested mouchette

useless on any other character

[alpine horizon]

i seeeee

i'm pretty sure i heard it also be catered towards wheel

like 33/66

[summer cove]

It's 50/50

You can just lose the 50/50 twice in a row

[alpine horizon]

ah right

Wait

so it's 50/50 to be on banner / offbanner

then a50/50 between character and wod

[summer cove]

33/66 for rate up

Then 50/50 for char/wod

[alpine horizon]

i see

hey that's not that bad

(it's horrible)

I'll prolly just try to get e0 thais and e0 horla

[summer cove]

It's ok

I would actually prioritize this banner over normal rerun banners (like Clem)

[alpine horizon]

Do explain

[summer cove]

Her wheel is fine. If you lose to the wheel, it's not the end of the world. If you win the char, you get it early because you only need to lose 1 pity instead of 2

[alpine horizon]

But couldn't i theoretically go forever without getting the character

if i always go to 90 pulls and always get the wod

[summer cove]

This banner only goes to 60, that's the advantage

[alpine horizon]

Okay 60, still

[summer cove]

And after losing to wheel twice, third time is always a char

For instance

[alpine horizon]

AHh

so 180

very very worst case

[summer cove]

Yes

It's like

If for instance, you want both Clem and her Wod

Assuming you hit pity

You pull on her regular rerun, you spend 90 + 60 to get both

If you pull on the new banner, and get char, you spent 60 pulls

Now you can pull on the rerun wod banner, and get both at 60+60 pulls

If you lose and get the wod on this banner instead, you spent 60 pulls

[alpine horizon]

humu humu

[summer cove]

You can now go and get the char on the normal rerun banner with 90 pulls, still 60+90

[alpine horizon]

So it's scam-ish

[summer cove]

You didn't actually lose anything

And if you win, you save pulls

But that's only IF you want both char and wod

[alpine horizon]

I see

okay well i really wanna make my (bear with me here idk if this is ridiculous to say)
But i wanna run Ghelot thais horla and arachne

i don't have horla or thais

i have ghelot e3 no sig wod and arachne e0 with her wod

how much would i need of the other 2 and do i really need their wod

[summer cove]

Thais really wants E2, but I wouldn't go for dupes on this banner. Use monthly dupes on her if needed

[alpine horizon]

Oooh rtight

i can use the prototype thingy

[summer cove]

Horla doesn't really need her WoD, but it's good general purpose

[alpine horizon]

i might have accidentally listened to a flares vid and used one on caecus

oopsie

but i have one extra

[summer cove]

Don't listen to flares, his advice and mindset is quite outdated

[alpine horizon]

yeah i realised

cheri filled me in on that

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1THjxR9hHs4NWHqSWHHa2dHAGuE_cRGelfzXdBfCnIlM/edit?tab=t.9ndp3ofgzwqw
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TCU7LJRzqKeuvLe97y_TfGZ-j6jq5bZX6hskAAJ2mFQ/edit?gid=1151278197#gid=1151278197

i use this

now

[summer cove]

Perfect

But yeah, Thais wants E2, and her wheel is the best in the game so it's good to pick up

[alpine horizon]

But is the team as a whole a viable thing?

Because it's super fun

[alpine horizon]

fym best in the game 😭 there's no way the cheri line was actually true

Where do i even check stuff out that i don't ahve unlocked

without looking online

[summer cove]

Yeah, should work fine in general

Idk, I find the in-game stuff quite unintuitive with too many menus and info scattered all over, I prefer looking online

[alpine horizon]

+2 hand limit
keyflare at turn end
ailmeus
embryo

wtf it does everything

[summer cove]

Same with Thais herself

[alpine horizon]

okay i'll be pulling for thais + wod that's already set

[summer cove]

Aliemus, weakness, vuln, embryo, card dupe, ap cost reduction, etc

[alpine horizon]

and i'll have 2 prototypes by then

so i could probably get her e2

[summer cove]

Yeah

[alpine horizon]

Do if realm checks work if it's dual realm

[summer cove]

Horla is fine E0, better at E1 but not a top priority on that comp imo

[summer cove]

Wdym? All those chars are from Caro and Ultra

[alpine horizon]

Like would this mean that i'd need to be only ultra

or can it be caroultra

[summer cove]

Yes it's fine

[alpine horizon]

okay perfect

Thanks so much for the help

this game is kinda confusing sometimes

[summer cove]

All good

[woeful hinge]

is there a list of Good Wheel units for the echoing wishes banner?

[summer cove]

Just look at the units and check which ones have good units, you'll be getting one of them rng anyway

A list of chars I think are good and have good wheels: