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#忘却前夜×沙耶之歌 联动预告┊Morimens × Saya No Uta Collab Preview
polar pike
yeah but, I've been called a clown, or told to get a life here, and I just let the argument go
I literally let people win if they wanna do it that way.
its just about letting go
undone flare
I usually deal with drama and argument between two parties on a daily basis back then on another community
Im used to deescalating them
Back then at least
Cuz the community I modded was full of cringe ass weebs
modest thorn
So can we burry the hatchet and all agree the next collab should be with Euphoria
polar pike
So can we burry the hatchet and all agree the next collab should be with Euphori...
gamer
neon salmon
ghais we have just passed the 2k mark!
yeah
new code!
2k luminous cores for everyone
prisma umbra
yippeee
neon salmon
So can we burry the hatchet and all agree the next collab should be with Euphori...
collab with this pls
modest thorn
Free Lily copy for everyone who participated
undone flare
My +1 Lily if that happens
Please wait until I have +3 Lily first
Then a free copy would be nice
polar pike
Idk what that is
Euphoria is a media thats doubled as fucked up as saya no uta will ever be.
I never wanted to watch it, until I decided to download it and discord screenshare it for the gang for the lulz, for the shock value
We couldn't make it past the first scene where she gets electrocuted and some other fucked up shit, we weren't even laughing anymore, we were like "MAN NAWWWWWWWW cancel the shooooooooow"
I really thought it'd be fun, everyone did, but it wasnt
XD
we stopped there
late torrent
I played a few routes of Euphoria before deciding it just wasn't worth it
It's just awful
polar pike
It's just awful
it is, the plot is still interesting
undone flare
Good thing I never even heard of it
polar pike
But I couldnt.
neon salmon
can we collab with Slay The Princess
modest thorn
I've seen some shit I even I didn't feel like finishing it
undone flare
Im gonna Slay you in a minute here
polar pike
I think theres quite some good plotlines from the youtube video I seen about it
but I cant bring myself to
consume the media as is
modest thorn
Premise was fine yeah it just wasn't very engaging
polar pike
Moral of the story? Everyone has their limits on what they find ethical, but bro, its hard to agree with someone when they get past your limits of whats accessible for u
it will always clash
and when its borderline criminal? Its still media, movies have shock value, 99% of movies are not real, 100% of anime isn't real, some go for really fucked up topics
and thats how it goes
you can choose not to watch
movies dont hide their synopsis
torpid socket
it will always clash
That begs the question;
Are people upset because others can stomach so much?
Or
Are they upset because they can't stomach so much?
polar pike
That begs the question;
Are people upset because others can stomach so much?
O...
Its a blend
undone flare
Well tbf, fhe sypnosis for SnU only included romancing a monster who taken the form of a girl
polar pike
Well tbf, fhe sypnosis for SnU only included romancing a monster who taken the f...
In steam yeah, because its censored
undone flare
Ah
torpid socket
Well tbf, fhe sypnosis for SnU only included romancing a monster who taken the f...
But she didn't take the form of a girl, the MCs brain injury made it so that she would appear as the most pure thing in his world of lense that was turned into gore
undone flare
I only read the brief one like 16 years ago lol
torpid socket
I only read the brief one like 16 years ago lol
Fair enough
undone flare
But she didn't take the form of a girl, the MCs brain injury made it so that she...
I never played SnU but watched parts by parts
polar pike
for example, Goblin Slayer wouldn't be half as popular if it didn't have that 1st episode. Sometimes media does things to survive borderline unethical to some, and well, is it unnecessary for the plot? Probably, is it necessary for engagement? fuck yeah it was, it was being talked about all month when it came out.
undone flare
But in all honesty, the sypnosis is just as accurate regardless of whether she takes the form of it or if the the protag sees them as
polar pike
for example, Goblin Slayer wouldn't be half as popular if it didn't have that 1s...
Can you do it some other way to have more engagement? Sure, is it an easy way out? Your opinion matters here
theres too many sides to pick an argument for such controversial medias
undone flare
for example, Goblin Slayer wouldn't be half as popular if it didn't have that 1s...
I think a lot of anime wouldnt be popular if it hadn't that specific unethical parts
polar pike
no one will be right until a law comes out, and even then some laws are dubious
everyone agrees law isn't everything, but its quite a lot
torpid socket
I think a lot of anime wouldnt be popular if it hadn't that specific unethical p...
List 10?
polar pike
everyone agrees law isn't everything, but its quite a lot
of what makes things ethical
undone flare
List 10?
Redo of Healer.... I gotta go back to one of the older animes
But I just can't remember lots of stuff
modest thorn
That begs the question;
Are people upset because others can stomach so much?
O...
Not to get back into it but some people are very concerned about their own image and how they're perceived so they lecture others as an outward defense and signal they're morally superior
undone flare
There's From the New World as well
torpid socket
Does beating someone to a bloody pulp in the name of "saving the day" count as unethical?
polar pike
Its controvertial
since its always against the law unless ur in america
haha
self defense
modest thorn
Ethics aren't objective so who cares really
polar pike
yeah, and laws try* to be objective
modest thorn
It depends on each society and culture etc
polar pike
but why do laws change then?
they can't be truly objective
the landscape is changing
torpid socket
they can't be truly objective
Popular opinion.
polar pike
they can strive for whats ethical, but they still wont be ethical to everyone
torpid socket
they can strive for whats ethical, but they still wont be ethical to everyone
Probably
dim spire
Not to get back into it but some people are very concerned about their own image...
And there are some people who blatantly use Saya no uta as a shield to say blatant nsfw stuff as well
To quote my past point “there are some great and educated people here they appreciate saya no Uta for its art. But u know the story a bad apple spoils the whole lot and saying borderline nsfw remarks and hiding it under appreciating saya no Uta as a work of art when they appreciate it for the nsfw underage, rape, etc and not the gore or story it self”
Nah idk how to do quotes
Grandma moment
polar pike
we're having a gleeful discussion rn
dim spire
ohh mein gott this is still going
Yeah it stops and then it starts again
rough gull
Doing my part to bump it to 3000
undone flare
I dont think there's any argument right now
Most of it is just agreeing on stuff anyway
Or ya know
Reflection
torpid socket
People are tired. And some of the earlier dudes arguing stopped replying
modest thorn
And there are some people who blatantly use Saya no uta as a shield to say blata...
Yeah I understand and one thing doesn't invalidate the other, as I said before people are perfectly valid not liking or agreeing with Saya. My point was more towards the sanctimonious moral posturing that goes nowhere
dim spire
```` Fools ````
Ain’t that the format for codes
undone flare
Ain’t that the format for codes
Nope
sonic zinc
dim spire
Yeah I understand and one thing doesn't invalidate the other, as I said before p...
Sanctimonious? I agree I myself act as if I’m holier than thou attitude that shit can be unpleasant. but I disagree on the hypothetical parts I would know if I like kids or not and I assure u I would not raise a ruckus this big from the damn start if I like em romantically I’ll keep quite and I would not have inference with and let glutton get banned
honest stream
Red are you talking about forwarding a message
honest stream
Sanctimonious? I agree I myself act as if I’m holier than thou attitude that shi...
Oh johns back to throw their dick around
late torrent
The guy who spammed that weird archive and threw accusations probably should have been banned from the discord asap
polar pike
know what, I'm not typing allat, deleted what I was going for
TL;DR: people weren't even being reasonable to each other's opinions about said media, so why even step down to their level and argue? Nothing got validated apart from your misdirected feelings, if you feel like the work of Saya no Uta is a detriment to society, you should be making yourself clear some other way (Different place, this thread is such a small part of the internet), and if the other side wants to ragebait and say they are only in for the OFFENSIVE part, then congratz it worked I guess, 2k+
undone flare
Lol
dim spire
Sanctimonious? I agree I myself act as if I’m holier than thou attitude that shi...
But yes some people can appreciate Saya as art. Some just hide behind those crowds and just that to say blantanly nsfw shit.
We probably also have our bad actor on our side but leave Jynn, Reya and the others out of it especially the guys that raises a ruckus at the start
Alright done
I need to do my exercise
honest stream
And then john comes in again saying how youre a sjw crybaby
honest stream
I need to do my exercise
I just finished mine
dim spire
And then john comes in again saying how youre a sjw crybaby
That’s just demeaning people opinions last I checked I still play morimens and is a Morimens player I even spend money on Castor. I can damn well speak and raise concerns about the game if I wish 
dim spire
know what, I'm not typing allat, deleted what I was going for
TL;DR: people were...
I agree with this Part “TL;DR: people weren't even being reasonable to each other's opinions about said media, so why even step down to their level and argue? Nothing got validated”
dim spire
That’s just demeaning people opinions last I checked I still play morimens and i...
The other bit see my msg above
Dev can do whatever they want
Respond to it or don’t
But it’s my rights as a player to raise and critique it
modest thorn
I wasn't there at the start but don't particularly care about any one individual.
To me it's obvious since I know the game from years ago that it's considered a cult classic, I know that most people who read it don't consider it an eroge or read it for that purpose but it's undeniable there's some people who do, personally don't give a shit but if that bothers you and it gets brought into a game you enjoy (even if it's coded similarly) it's natural you'd be annoyed, but also understand that if you start implying the first group are pedos you're gonna step on some toes
polar pike
Imagine this, Morimens Collabs with Clockwork Orange
you can choose to get outraged A LOT
but
its still a highly loved piece of media
late torrent
I wasn't there at the start but don't particularly care about any one individual...
well, it is an eroge
polar pike
and it conveys its themes in a very bad way
distant zephyr
Imagine this, Morimens Collabs with Clockwork Orange
You forgot an even more problematic piece of media out there
Morimens x Lovecraftverse
polar pike
you can choose to become outraged, but you're invalidating everyone who sees clockwork orange as a masterpiece if you start saying they are a psycho for liking it
modest thorn
well, it is an eroge
By definition yeah sure, don't think anyone but the nichest of fetishist weebs are going to saya for that purpose tho when they have literally thousands of other options
polar pike
you can choose to become outraged, but you're invalidating everyone who sees clo...
and whoever gets mad at this? Congratilations, you just spiked everyones cortisol
and you knew you were going to
because you had a strong opinion
distant zephyr
and whoever gets mad at this? Congratilations, you just spiked everyones cortiso...
final rivet
polar pike
dyss
final rivet
bagel
polar pike
no
dim spire
I wasn't there at the start but don't particularly care about any one individual...
??? I never did? I even make the distinction between the two. And highlight how someone of bad faith can hide in yours just like I admit that someone of bad faith can hide in mine. All I said was leave Jynn, Ellie and Reya out of it + the others
dim spire
you can choose to become outraged, but you're invalidating everyone who sees clo...
True
final rivet
bagel says yes diz
undone flare
You forgot an even more problematic piece of media out there
Morimens x Lovecraf...
The full of unethicalness
polar pike
True
and there might even exist people that like clockwork orange for the WRONG REASONS, but you're basically attacking everyone by just generalizing the work as psycho shit!
undone flare
Now we must invalidate Lovecraft himself!
final rivet
You forgot an even more problematic piece of media out there
Morimens x Lovecraf...
morimens x R*dz
polar pike
and there might even exist people that like clockwork orange for the WRONG REASO...
this part is so important to actually understand how to not escalate things
dim spire
and there might even exist people that like clockwork orange for the WRONG REASO...
Hm I’ll refine my approach that’s a good critique. My issue lies in those blatantly nsfw remarks forwards minors in here
Thanks
polar pike
oh ya that guy was being obnoxiously a ragebaiter
modest thorn
??? I never did? I even make the distinction between the two. And highlight how ...
Ngl today is the first time I see your name so rest assured I wasn't talking about you specifically at any point
polar pike
I cant even take what he said seriously
dim spire
The guys who appreciate it for art will obviously not say nsfw shit to minors and can actually appreciate it as a dark horror.
As for those who do…
Thank you
That was nice
polar pike
yeah, I think coupling up everyone with what you profile the average viewer just insults whoever is there for the horrific experience
late torrent
By definition yeah sure, don't think anyone but the nichest of fetishist weebs a...
yeah, ofc, I don't think most people who go and read SnU are in it for the erotic content, it's just, well, it still is an eroge* at the end of the day
distant zephyr
There are way better eroge anyway
modest thorn
Don't think there should be minors around in these discussions since games like saya are 18+ to begin with but if they indeed make such remarks that's an issue completely separate and obviously should get removed (along with the minors imo but w.e)
undone flare
final rivet
There are way better eroge anyway
I expected nothing less from you
late torrent
Morimens x Subahibi when
dim spire
yeah, I think coupling up everyone with what you profile the average viewer just...
Sorry my bad I saw a couple guys in here who did those things and hearing about collab didn’t make it easier especially since I just dealt with a pervert flirting with an irl minors (yes irl and yes the guy WAS warns many time she is underage let’s just say he didn’t listen)
undone flare
Tbf
neon salmon
2k2 comments
dim spire
No one glorify underage nsfw and rile this red up even more and I’ll leave it alone
Is that acceptable?
dim spire
No one glorify underage nsfw and rile this red up even more and I’ll leave it al...
Especially forward irl minors
polar pike
Sorry my bad I saw a couple guys in here who did those things and hearing about ...
Oh don't apologize to me or anyone, its just normal to get such a gut reaction, especially when he wanted to very clearly light up the discussion with foul shit
undone flare
dim spire
…don’t tell me even that terms is too controversial
dim spire
Oh thank god
distant zephyr
<:Doll_Inferno_ha:1459091434958360760>
I mean there must be a reason why
Despite it being the most voted VN of all time on VNDB, it's only top 400 on the average ranking
Saya no Uta is well known, but the stats of the website actually do agree with your statement of plenty of better and more appreciated eroges existing out there
undone flare
Well regardless of Saya being in ultra or not, Im still skipping her to save for Arachne
dim spire
Oh don't apologize to me or anyone, its just normal to get such a gut reaction, ...
Still is warranted, I’m sorry I overreact
late torrent
It's kind of baby's first vn
undone flare
Im always right!
late torrent
It was for a lot of people, and those who kept reading found out it's not particularly amazing
undone flare
late torrent
There's just better in a lot of categories
dim spire
Be nice to the brats people they menace but they just brats. and don’t flirt with irl minors that my hard red line
late torrent
It's short and different, so it's easy to recommend
polar pike
Still is warranted, I’m sorry I overreact <:takenotes:1357186646294138890>
naw, you were nice all the time, no way you need to apologize, you're always reasonable from what I see
dim spire
Brats if u reading this go to bed it’s pass your bed time
undone flare
distant zephyr
Saya no U(l)t(r)a
Saya bringing JP Ultra to the game before Arachnee could 
modest thorn
Can you point me to when I did that cause I legit don't remember
undone flare
https://tenor.com/view/lie-gif-12340771546804510061
distant zephyr
https://tenor.com/view/lie-gif-12340771546804510061
undone flare
The brain never lies
final rivet
Saya bringing JP Ultra to the game before Arachnee could <:Caeus_Pity:1468258836...
no she’s avtually our first ever multirealm, chaos/AQ/Caro and Saya no Ultra
honest stream
This shit
honest stream
Im gonna take it like a fucking insult as i damn well please
undone flare
polar pike
oh come on
final rivet
<:Frog_Cry:1378556922638372904>
undone flare
no she’s avtually our first ever multirealm, chaos/AQ/Caro and Saya no Ultra
Saya no Ultra
So I can get her later down in the timeline
modest thorn
Im gonna take it like a fucking insult as i damn well please
Yeah that's fine
dim spire
Ah shit, day nearly over I need to to exercise now stats
undone flare
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1414370369888063530/1429952993008160848/e...
Cats
final rivet
<:Lily_GivMe:1472058485750497484>
undone flare
undone flare
https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_...
I can never get enough of this gif
dim spire
<:yoobhappy:1399766558930243765>
Bruh that’s not the reaction of someone whose scared!
It’s a mysterious monster who live in the dark
Scary!
undone flare
Bruh that’s not the reaction of someone whose scared!
dim spire
honest stream
Is it a rabbit
undone flare
I can never be scared
dim spire
Fear the dog 🐶
undone flare
Of the Lurking Horror of Cuteness
honest stream
I gotta move out of this chat anyway i hope that painketsu guy eats a fucking dick
undone flare
polar pike
I think you're pinning too much on him
I dont believe he intended to trigger anyone with trauma
modest thorn
This shit
Seems like you took it as being a crybaby for not liking the content but that was in reference to (my perception) of you crying about the game's existence in general, as I don't believe all media should be padded with everyone who had a bad experience in the world in mind, but if that also insults you then that's fine
undone flare
Give me
honest stream
Seems like you took it as being a crybaby for not liking the content but that wa...
I dont care fuck you you fucking prick
dim spire
The heck happened?
honest stream
Im never gonna take some asshat telling me im an annoying little wench because im upset over shit like that
dim spire
final rivet
<:leigh_like:1468258513405870121>
dim spire
Whirli?
dim spire
Im never gonna take some asshat telling me im an annoying little wench because i...
Oh that is indeed degrading
dim spire
media shouldn't be padded to everyone
Not media
polar pike
I work in accessibility
modest thorn
☝️
honest stream
Im not particularly upset over the media currently its the fact im made fun of for being upset at that
final rivet
if I were mod this wouldn’t have ever happened…
dim spire
if I were mod this wouldn’t have ever happened…
Bagel for president!!!
polar pike
You can separate the statement if you put aside your experiences if you want to try enough, but if you're gonna take his statement and aim at your own trauma you have no other outcome other than becoming upset*
final rivet
I vote myself
dim spire
I vote myself
But u get tomatoed a lot tho?
honest stream
That john guy is easy to ignore because hes just an obvious asshole painketsu trying to fucking TELL ME IM JUST A BABY FOR FEELING THE WAY I WAS
modest thorn
You can separate the statement if you put aside your experiences if you want to ...
Exaclty
undone flare
But u get tomatoed a lot tho? <:cry3:1356082134447558748>
That's the sign of agreement!
Brainrot as Player Mod
honest stream
You can separate the statement if you put aside your experiences if you want to ...
Its hard to seperate that shit from my own feelings
polar pike
Its hard to seperate that shit from my own feelings
yeah but its still not his fault, and I'm sorry for what happened to you
its just that
he can no longer argue his point then
on your perspective
thats just unfair as this is a public chat
dim spire
yeah but its still not his fault, and I'm sorry for what happened to you
Wait why you saying sorry?
polar pike
I'm saying sorry because
dim spire
Shouldn’t it be the guy who degrade another opinion who say sorry?
polar pike
I dont want to trample on whirli's feelings
honest stream
Its a memory of when i was a naive idiot and i let myself get taken advantage of so when some other fucking adult tries to make a case for me just being a crybaby about that im gonna be extremely pissed
polar pike
while discussing that
honest stream
And no dont worry im not upset at you
dim spire
he can no longer argue his point then
Then let them say it
modest thorn
Nobody is responsible for your lived experience, I can be sorry for w.e it happened to you but the reality is that there's infinity shit out there that will upset you, and you're in your right to be upset but that's simply not anyone elses problem
honest stream
I dont think itd even help hes still just making excuses
honest stream
“Oh but baby theres gonna be alot of things out there that will trigger you and you just need to deal with it”
dim spire
polar pike
I don't think hes being unreasonable, I'm sorry that I think so, I still don't want to hurt whirli but I don't think painketsu is being an asshole, hes being real about it.
dim spire
“Oh but baby theres gonna be alot of things out there that will trigger you and ...
winces yeah that’s…not a great look
dim spire
I don't think hes being unreasonable, I'm sorry that I think so, I still don't w...
Nah let the guy say it
U not pain
U dyss
polar pike
haha u said Dyss
dim spire
Silly
polar pike
its good for my search numbers
dim spire
I’m not whirli I’m red
polar pike
take that bogel @final rivet
dim spire
modest thorn
As I said on a personal level I can feel bad eventho I don't know you, but you can't expect me to apologize for making a general statement I believe to be true
honest stream
As I said on a personal level I can feel bad eventho I don't know you, but you c...
HES EVEN JUST PLAIN FUCKING ADMITS HE THINKS IM A BABY FOR BEING UPSET
polar pike
in 🔍
dim spire
As I said on a personal level I can feel bad eventho I don't know you, but you c...
…
Dude Dyss already give u a template on what to say
Bruh
How do u still fail
Look at dyss
Copy him
honest stream
If youre gonna be a dick to me just be an obnoxious one like john was
dim spire
He is great
honest stream
Its easier to write you off as nothing but a pompous fuckface
modest thorn
I'm just being honest
dim spire
As I said on a personal level I can feel bad eventho I don't know you, but you c...
This shit is ass and I ain’t even whirli the person u direct and degrade
Bruh
undone flare
I will just say this
modest thorn
Idk who that is
dim spire
U are NOT
modest thorn
Ok made me scroll up
undone flare
Being honest or blatant about things is never the right choice especially when confronting someone or something
dim spire
Being honest or blatant about things is never the right choice especially when c...
Is not mutually exclusive
Just say what dyss did
He make his point and stance clear while not dismissing whirli’s
My god
undone flare
Is not mutually exclusive
I just learn a lot when you deal with people at my job lol
modest thorn
But yeah I think I was pretty clear, I said in the past that you're perfectly valid and justified in not liking the game but it's not anyone else's problem if it's mere existence offends you, there's a thousand other things that will do that and if you don't shield yourself from it you can't expect other people to
undone flare
He make his point and stance clear while not dismissing whirli’s
Yeppers
undone flare
Nah, drag his name more
final rivet
take that bogel <@706262934485073951>
thanks for the @ loser
undone flare
Muahahaha
dim spire
Nah, drag his name more<:gdoll_evil_laugh:1468257456948908094>
Huh? No!!
He reasonable!
final rivet
Go mention my name and drag it instead
polar pike
I'm not right, don't pin this on me, its way delicate, I think Painketsu is being very real with what he means, but I just don't think he can apologize truly since he meant what he said, but not like whirli interpreted it... thats how I see it, I don't wanna be saying who should do what, but if @modest thorn somehow you can still apologize because you accidentally made @honest stream feel bad, in the end pain can still apologize on that part* since he didnt mean to make whirli feel all that*
final rivet
I need more mentions
dim spire
I'm not right, don't pin this on me, its way delicate, I think Painketsu is bein...
It not just feel bad it directly touch on a trauma which is a lot worse but yeah
honest stream
But yeah I think I was pretty clear, I said in the past that you're perfectly va...
Do you know how fucking infuriating it is to see people say its okay for that content to be there
undone flare
Im just gonna
honest stream
How genuinely grating it is to see someone try to justify its existence
undone flare
Leave lol
modest thorn
Yeah I can say for sure it wasn't directed at whirli personally since I saw them yesterday for the first time
honest stream
And then go and slap me in the face for it
honest stream
I dont have a personal gripe with anyone else in that conversation but you
dim spire
Like how I overact and over correct because I have to deal with a pervert flirting with irl minors or when people have trauma of people who resemble the original perpetrators
It’s an understandable reaction
polar pike
its all about the middleground but, someone has to lower their middleground for some agreeance to happen
its fucked as it is tho
modest thorn
Yeah it's understandable, just not my problem, you can't expect people to know your entire life history and walk on eggshells around just in case they grace a pain point
That's just unreasonable imo
honest stream
Hell i would have left this alone if it wasnt for the knife in my stomach that was the fucking comment from earlier
modest thorn
But if it's not clear I'll reiterate that it was not intended as an insult or a personal attack, since I don't even know you in the first place, but in that same vein there's zero reason for me to apologize
river tapir
But if it's not clear I'll reiterate that it was not intended as an insult or a ...
Insane gaslight
river tapir
Hell i would have left this alone if it wasnt for the knife in my stomach that w...
Id not come here for the sake of your mental health man
This dude is vile
modest thorn
Isn't gaslight when you want to change someone's mind? I clearly don't care to be liked here lmao
polar pike
Insane gaslight
I can't back down here, I feel like this is not wrong when you're having an heated argument, he didnt go for anyone's trauma specifically, and I don't think he can take that back either so its fucked for everyone here.
I'll die on this hill
this is adding nothing
saying its gaslight
hes clearly stating how he feels about it
modest thorn
If I ever need a lawyer I'll hit you up
polar pike
I just don't think demonizing you here is helping their case
like at this point
you're already lowering your guard
by saying you didn't mean to call out the grander issue
but you can still apologize
for what you caused
theres another side to it
late torrent
I really don't think this is the place for that conversation
polar pike
even if you didn't mean to cause it
modest thorn
Eh it's their right to be upset, I can only try to be clear in my intent but if that's not enough then obviously there's nothing to reconcile
late torrent
Can a mod intervene or something ?
balmy charm
This server really needs better moderation, there's like 2k t oo many messages at that point
modest thorn
Again we don't even know eachother so it's all good on my side
waxen depot
Free Lily copy for everyone who participated
dude please
waxen depot
Euphoria is a media thats doubled as fucked up as saya no uta will ever be.
I n...
the OG VN is even worse, I don't even feel like playing it since it looks like "Suffer Porn"
polar pike
the OG VN is even worse, I don't even feel like playing it since it looks like "...
I can handle some F'd up media, but I couldn't get past 1st chapter on a "Watch party with the boys"
waxen depot
can we collab with Slay The Princess
it'd be cool ig, I'm not too thrilled by the idea despite loving the 'true' route of that game. 9/10 game
polar pike
I can handle some F'd up media, but I couldn't get past 1st chapter on a "Watch ...
we expected to laugh out of absurdity, it became too real in the worst ways xd no one could handle that
modest thorn
the OG VN is even worse, I don't even feel like playing it since it looks like "...
Yeah it's legit not even made interesting, it's just crude with no other substance
polar pike
I chat gpt'd the plot, it goes wild
that little girl is actually your mother type of plot
modest thorn
Tho I only saw like 2 anime eps not the VN, I've heard from friends it gets spicy in the bad sense
polar pike
Tho I only saw like 2 anime eps not the VN, I've heard from friends it gets spic...
the plot is actually so long, it goes to so many different tropes it ends up looking interesting
my attempt to watch it with the fellas stemmed from that
but I couldn't get past the start even
due to how 🤮
waxen depot
It was for a lot of people, and those who kept reading found out it's not partic...
idk, I've read a lot of VN's and I still think Saya is quite good. It's clumsy in one specific area but it's insanely good for it's length.
That being said, it's not really top 5 VNs for me, but VNs are a category where it's common to find a work that I consider in the 8-10 range.
VN's are crazy good.
polar pike
idk, I've read a lot of VN's and I still think Saya is quite good. It's clumsy i...
is umineko 8-10 range?
is steins gate 8-10 range?
hmmm
I never really read any VNs apart from, the least VN like
AKA danganronpas
and 999
late torrent
idk, I've read a lot of VN's and I still think Saya is quite good. It's clumsy i...
I maybe should have phrased that differently
modest thorn
idk, I've read a lot of VN's and I still think Saya is quite good. It's clumsy i...
Haven't played one in some time but generally agree, not top 5 but pretty good
late torrent
I maybe should have phrased that differently
I don't think Saya is not good, I think that the entry to a genre feels generally weaker after you start exploring other works
rich owl
idk, I've read a lot of VN's and I still think Saya is quite good. It's clumsy i...
I envy u ngl, lots of VNs I read are 9-10 then I cooled down for a day or two and look back and it doesn't feel that good anymore
late torrent
At the end of the day, English is not my first language so I may phrase things poorly sometimes
rich owl
even shits like subahibi felt a 6-7 for me
late torrent
Or at least differently than what I actually think
modest thorn
even shits like subahibi felt a 6-7 for me
People were right about you
final rivet
even shits like subahibi felt a 6-7 for me
six seven!!!!
polar pike
six seven!!!!
dyss
late torrent
is steins gate 8-10 range?
Umineko feels kind of hit or miss, people who love it really really love it, and the others are just completely indifferent to it
waxen depot
Trauma is irrational. It cuts deeply and leaves behind scars that take a very long time to heal. All of that is true. But the way forward, the way to healing doesn't mean you weaponize it or try to impose your trauma-fueled morality onto a public space. You can police your friend group, they'll likely love you enough to be sensitive about it around you.
Imposing trauma on a public space because you've had a bad experience is too far. Ignore it.
It's a bit harsh, but I've been through hell in this life, and it's a lot easier to fight the revulsion and pain than it is to expect everyone around you-- including those who don't know you--to change for you.
waxen depot
I chat gpt'd the plot, it goes wild
that sounds interesting, but I'm also the type of guy who prefers execution over content in writing
waxen depot
is umineko 8-10 range?
Umineko is an 11, bro, shit changed my life and left me silently shedding tears for like 10 minutes. My bro who hadn't cried in 10 years full on broke down sobbing when we hit the end.
waxen depot
is steins gate 8-10 range?
9 imo, good fucking shit
rich owl
did u tried rose gun day?
polar pike
I like that, I wanna get into umineko but I'm scared it'd lose the essense of what I saw about the anime
since im scared it might stray into the witches territory fully
which is the well
part im not entirely in love about higurashi for ex
while there are some good highs
rich owl
I like that, I wanna get into umineko but I'm scared it'd lose the essense of wh...
seacat anime is an atrocity against literacy
just read the novel
waxen depot
did u tried rose gun day?
not yet, doing Higurashi next. I had watched the anime long ago, and didnt realize how different the VN is
undone flare
Umineko. I only heard of that because of the anime that came out back in like what? 2010?
polar pike
seacat anime is an atrocity against literacy
I love the setting of both higurashi and umineko, but I don't die for the ultra dimensional witch parts usually, because I like the usual small town/island settings a lot more
waxen depot
Also Clannad next since the anime was the first show to ever make me cry all those years ago.
polar pike
the anime of umineko cuts just when
rich owl
not yet, doing Higurashi next. I had watched the anime long ago, and didnt reali...
dawg gl on higurashi
one of my first read
waxen depot
I like that, I wanna get into umineko but I'm scared it'd lose the essense of wh...
oh yeah, the anime is atrocious
undone flare
Umineko might be a good collab ngl.
undone flare
oh yeah, the anime is atrocious
ja
waxen depot
I saw parts of the stage play for Umineko, and that definitely seems like a better adaptation than the anime
polar pike
oh yeah, the anime is atrocious
I understand it is but I still liked it a lot :<
And I'm scared the VN fully moves on into the witches and stops being about the island itself
waxen depot
dawg gl on higurashi
one of my first read
god bless
waxen depot
I understand it is but I still liked it a lot :<
And I'm scared the VN fully mo...
it never stops
polar pike
THEN IM SOLD
waxen depot
you're in for a treat bro
rich owl
I understand it is but I still liked it a lot :<
And I'm scared the VN fully mo...
the cat box is central to the narrative
polar pike
okayyyy
waxen depot
Oh yeah, don't ever read the manga for Umineko until you finish the VN by the way.
The manga spoils every mystery very early on
it's meant to be a work you consume after the main one
a 'bonus'
polar pike
the VN is a complete piece right? There no sequel vn to umineko correct?
waxen depot
no sequel
rich owl
ep 8 is definitive ending
waxen depot
the VN is split into 2 halves with some bonus content
If you can, please try to obtain and play the new switch release--it packages a few of the bonus 'chapters' into it.
polar pike
o, its digital only for us in the west I assume?
waxen depot
the bonus chapters are not particularly long, and there's a brazilian fan-group that's making a new fanmade chapter as well that fits within the narrative for bonus content
polar pike
the bonus chapters are not particularly long, and there's a brazilian fan-group ...
just reminded me of the brazilian battler meme
waxen depot
o, its digital only for us in the west I assume?
you may be able to track down some physical copies, but it's not easy
waxen depot
just reminded me of the brazilian battler meme
love that guy, shame he stopped streaming Umineko
rich owl
atp physical copies are collector thingy
waxen depot
when I streamed Umineko, I started dressing up in a white 'suit' as well to carry on his meme. That guy was entertaining as hell
waxen depot
atp physical copies are collector thingy
yeah, pretty much
waxen depot
omg what
yeah, a lot of them are fun little side stories or side mysteries--none of them are necessary for the story
waxen depot
if available not by a grand volume at all
100%
I still have to finish the stageplay, and the manga. I love Kei Natsume's artstyle. I did play with the higher fidelity sprites, but not the pachinko sprites. If you ever need help setting up the 07th expansion mod--in the case you can't get your hand on the switch release--dm me. I've helped a few people get it set up
The voicework for Umineko is the best thing the anime ever did. Insane cast.
polar pike
whats the 07th expansion mod?
ah yeah the voicework is amazing still in my head
beatrice
waxen depot
Basically the Steam version of Umineko is incomplete
polar pike
and the guy who did battler does a lot of red haired characters I THINK
so it came naturally xd
waxen depot
the 07th expansion mod adds content that the other ports for Umineko have
waxen depot
and the guy who did battler does a lot of red haired characters I THINK
Daisuke Ono, Jotaro Kujo
polar pike
the 07th expansion mod adds content that the other ports for Umineko have
oh perfect, I'm savvy im savvy
I'll be able to figure it out I believe
waxen depot
beatrice
Sayaka Ohara is my favorite female VA of all time. Waiting for when they add her to Morimens
polar pike
unless its non available
waxen depot
She didn't used to be, until Umineko. Beatrice is hands-down her best role
polar pike
the presence is undeniable
waxen depot
first time I ever saw her was Iri in Fate/Zero, and then she was Ulthury in Utawarerumono--another VN series I give an overall 10 to.
waxen depot
Sayaka Ohara is a veteran of the Seiyuu industry, she's usually the 'mom' voice in anime.
So it was a very pleasant surprise to see her in a younger, more villainous role
polar pike
It does make beatrice feel like shes older than she looks but in a "Lived a 120391023 years way"
waxen depot
Very ageless, also in the VN, you'll hear her sound younger than she does in the anime
rich owl
:^
polar pike
yeap
waxen depot
Depends, Sugita is always insantly recognizeable as himself. Same with Nakata
I have too many VA Oshi's, hahaha
polar pike
bro, hows the fat police called in higurashi?
waxen depot
true, true
rich owl
male ones usually are insanely iconic instead
waxen depot
bro, hows the fat police called in higurashi?
Oh yeah, I love him
waxen depot
He always sounds like he's speaking around something in his throat
Shinichiro Miki is one that's been steadily growing on me
he also keeps popping up this current season of games and anime
polar pike
you cannot fucking forget
the most annoying voice of all
which is like
totally on purpose
the blonde girl
from higurashi
sayoko or something
waxen depot
Oh, I like her voice
rich owl
satoko kkk
rich owl
her VA is highly recognizable too
rich owl
that ohohoho is very iconic
waxen depot
yeah, most of the VAs in WTC are longtime talent
polar pike
FOR the character
rich owl
🔥
waxen depot
Tomokazu Seki is a funny one, every time I hear him, I double take because he almost sounds like a normal japanese VA
But the moment he shouts or gets angry, you can instantly tell
polar pike
mongrel
waxen depot
Ayyumu Murase is one of the more interesting VA's I've come across recently
waxen depot
They voice women quite frequently despite being male
and it's not a bad voice
I could not tell
waxen depot
Gilgamesh's 'intoning' way of speech is also fairly iconic to Seki
he uses it for Pucci in p6, even if I dislike the casting of Seki for Pucci
polar pike
ya he does great but still clash the voice with how the character acts and looks
waxen depot
yeah, especially since we already had Nakata for Pucci
it feels like a huge jump
oh yeah speaking of VA
the moment Fuminori spoke in Saya, I was shocked
What do you MEAN that's Heero Yui and Diarmuid
He even used a stage name for Saya No Uta initially
rich owl
due to arc 2 PV I'm actively anticipating GTulu to be Gilgamesh
he's all but confirmed now kkk
waxen depot
A lot of people did guess Seki, I didn't quite hear it in the initial trailer personally but he also didn't speak much
rich owl
definitel the easiest guess ye
waxen depot
I'll go rewatch the trailer, but it did sound like someone else to me. I could be wrong though
polar pike
pulling out my command spells to tell suneo to fucking destroy nobita
waxen depot
Seiyuu are such a silly little hobby of mine. I like being able to spot them and remember them
polar pike
pulling out my command spells to tell suneo to fucking destroy nobita
but he can never do it because Doraemon has so many noble phantasms
waxen depot
Yeah, I rewatched the trailer but it still doesn't sound like Seki to me. This isn't a register I think I've heard him in, if it is Seki. My apologies, I can't place him.
rich owl
rich owl
hmmm
waxen depot
Lelouch/Kraft
waxen depot
It would be very fitting considering verse 1
I doubt that's why they chose the VA--IF it's even Fukuyama
I love when we get longtime VA's in Morimens, but I won't lie--my favorite VA in the entire cast is still Ai Yamamoto
insane that she's Thais and Ramona
I need Morimens to keep taking lesser known VA's like Vortice's and giving them roles, these folks are good
rich owl
actually same here
the differences btw Ramona Thais Tawil is peak
especially when I actually get to do the prologue with voices
waxen depot
I've been trying really hard to like Daffodil, since I like her story and I enjoy her VA--Ami Koshimizu, known for Holo, Mai, Ryuko, Mikumo.
But I just cannot enjoy her kit :(
Also somehow Salvador was revealed to be Heihachi Mishima
after 1.5 years of being credited in game as Nan Grand Ceremony
waxen depot
Funny MTL or stage name, not sure which
waxen depot
for ousama ranking
no fucking clue, but Boji's performance was incredibly touching
rich owl
I've been trying really hard to like Daffodil, since I like her story and I enjo...
she need oe to be viable
waxen depot
she need oe to be viable
well, time to start rolling Ultra standard :(
rich owl
but the guys invested in her are all liked the result
polar pike
no fucking clue, but Boji's performance was incredibly touching
the girl who did it went all in
rich owl
well, time to start rolling Ultra standard :(
standard ultra is best standard banner currently lol
waxen depot
the girl who did it went all in
yeah, reminds me of Miyu Irino
for A Silent Voice
similar breadth of performance
waxen depot
standard ultra is best standard banner currently lol
really? I was doing Caro because Gelot dupes and Salv
I like those 2
rich owl
most regard it, tho I'd rate Caro and Ultra same tier
been super appreciating Leigh lately
waxen depot
I'm surprised that we haven't gotten Yui Ishikawa in Morimens yet, she's in EVERY Gacha game.
rich owl
and Faint has always been my staple
waxen depot
Usually the heroine, or a core character in the cast
rich owl
I love tanking DR kkk
rich owl
I'm surprised that we haven't gotten Yui Ishikawa in Morimens yet, she's in EVER...
aint no way BIAV would not add her to VA cast
waxen depot
Leigh is still my favorite caro standard. Used to be Uvhash, but he's useless
rich owl
i'll wait
rich owl
Leigh is still my favorite caro standard. Used to be Uvhash, but he's useless
heard there will be a plan to buff all underperforming awaker, hope Uvhash get a glow up
I also wanted to try Uvhash but everyone include my friends said no
waxen depot
Leigh is still my favorite caro standard. Used to be Uvhash, but he's useless
I refused to roll limited's and got to chapter 7 with the standard team they gave us, and then broke and rolled caro. Then I realized Uvhash can't carry shit, and that's when Salvador's banner came up.
Chapter 7 is still possible with standard SR team, but it's hard.
especially without dupes or account levels
rich owl
I gave up much sooner, was running Liz back then and died to the mob in chap 6, then died to the fetus again so I kinda convinced I should get limited
my next plan was Tulu meme bcuz Miryam banner is up, ended up doing blue Ramona dps into chap 7 instead and died thrice to the boss
waxen depot
I'm glad the game mostly had* the ability to clear most of the story content with the starting team.
rich owl
kek
rich owl
its plausible actually
waxen depot
and I don't want to waste 2 hours or more trying rn
rich owl
well she still provides a lot of temp realm mastery, so posse that turn give more aliemus and in turn fuel the entire team exalt
waxen depot
well she still provides a lot of temp realm mastery, so posse that turn give mor...
That's true, imagine if she were buffed to do perm RM though
God tier Awakener if they do that
please, BIAV
waxen depot
Heroine needs to be buffed....
waxen depot
and she has ridiculous utility and scaling
fantastic character to pair with any posse-spamming team
waxen depot
I did Tawil, Vortice, GRamona, Hameln recently to tinker
and that team is ridiculous actually
might replace Ham with Miryam though
rich owl
I just ran Helot to buff her dmg kkk
then GRam pulled back both Mouche cards to nuke again
she also have very high s key stat due to her talent
waxen depot
I just ran Helot to buff her dmg kkk
Helot seeing use after Mou released makes me happy
it's like how now you can use Agrippa because of Xu
rich owl
overally balance wise I'm mixed
d tide acutally gradually getting more and more bullshit
but at least new chara always find a way to bring back niche obscure chara
waxen depot
P Dive and D Tide need to stop getting harder, I'm worried the game will hit an HSR situation.
rich owl
mouche revived helot
xu revived literally all poison
vortice also revive aequor stall
waxen depot
Remembrance meta was fucking awful if you didn't roll any of the units, and was atrociously difficult for anyone who didn't roll vertically because they were waiting on new characters.
rich owl
it's less severe here, but for instance OE Tawil can no longer pull her weight through w2 onward like back then
waxen depot
This game is nicer because of how generous it is, but it's a fine-line they're walking right now
rich owl
waxen depot
I remember raiding the old EoS bosses with her
spamming her mindlessly over and over, good times
rich owl
ik a guy got burned out of tawil gaming bcuz of the raid
waxen depot
she was my second E3 ever
fallen trout
how is this thread getting close to 3k
waxen depot
first was Thais, of course
rich owl
few months later another guy mentioned the real meta strat for eyeball is ramona instead of tawil
kkk
rich owl
how is this thread getting close to 3k
this chat is becoming #🔸general-chat in guise
waxen depot
how is this thread getting close to 3k
2.8k messages of people being aggressive
now it's just a conversation that's a bit troublesome to move to Gen lol
rich owl
first was Thais, of course
I actually kept Thais in E0 limbo for a whole ass year
only E2 her by 2.0
surprisingly she's still broken at e0
waxen depot
I E3'ed her instantly because she was the main reason--other than Salvador--I picked this game up
Uvhash, Goliath, Salvador, 24, and Thais were the awakeners I thought were visually striking enough to make me want to play.
I waited eagerly for english release, and instantly played the moment it dropped.
waxen depot
Uvhash, Goliath, Salvador, 24, and Thais were the awakeners I thought were visua...
Thais and Salvador were the chief ones, at first I had my apprehensions about the fact that EN was just being thrown into CN server--making it global, but they treated the EN players extremely well.
I've never seen a gacha manage to do that without fucking up player pacing and making new players feel frustrated and impotent.
rich owl
I'm from GBF so ik gaijin experience is actually fairly chill
waxen depot
I couldn't stick with GBF, but I love Relink and VS.
rich owl
Uvhash, Goliath, Salvador, 24, and Thais were the awakeners I thought were visua...
funnily Uvhash was one of the reason I decide to stay
back then my friends tell me this game is lovecraftian so I'd like it, then I look at the character and went "kinda too anim-wait who's the girl with her head splitted open"
Caro cast in general were peak af in term of designs
waxen depot
Other gacha definitely fucked up the foreign inclusion though, Granblue did it relatively well.
Uma though...fucking awful lmao
but that's a new server so
makes sense
waxen depot
funnily Uvhash was one of the reason I decide to stay
back then my friends tell...
I had the opposite issue where I thought the characters just weren't appealing enough visually
the artstyle was good, but I didn't like the designs I was being shown
neon salmon
wait for Caro Vortice to fck over Caro aesthetics and give them the first real L
rich owl
wait for Caro Vortice to fck over Caro aesthetics and give them the first real L
ok what if Caraboo actually is just a loli
design-wise
waxen depot
wait for Caro Vortice to fck over Caro aesthetics and give them the first real L
wdym, Pickman exists
:)
also I like Vortice's design
neon salmon
Pickman is better at the old art
waxen depot
the muzzle really helps
rich owl
I hate Vortice lore more then her appearance
right after Light letter he said BIAV design character mechanic based on narrative and story
then Vortice have divine aequor for no reason
😭 😭
waxen depot
I like Vortice through and through. Great character overall. Well, she has divine aeq because of the eldritch god calling for her in her story
At least I assume that's why
waxen depot
he will be
celest fossil
goon
neon salmon
and there’s no Morimens without mens
neon salmon
Sal in bikini when
rich owl
GTulu won't be enough
neon salmon
anw I guess the collab will be after 2.5 th anni
waxen depot
idk, I think they did pretty damn good so far--but that's because I just think the overall quality of the male characters is insane
neon salmon
I don’t think they can fit the collab before Arachne
rich owl
idk, I think they did pretty damn good so far--but that's because I just think t...
aye fr
whenever they cook male chara its top quality
neon salmon
and can’t be after bc people will skin them alive if Saya is the 2.5th anni
waxen depot
obviously it's not FGO or GBF levels of manservice, but it's probably 3rd best of the games I play actively
neon salmon
they can finally release cut content Karnahk and give me more N lore
knowing Faint Tinct supposed to have main story chapters make me sad
potential sisters are real
waxen depot
also the men here are way better than Hoyo men, and I know twitter loves to pretend hoyo men have anything going on visually
neon salmon
their clothes are boring
I have never seen a game with bad fashion sense like Hoyo games before
waxen depot
Phainon is basically the only male character who has an interesting wardrobe to me, and Mydei is just Gil-Baiting.
waxen depot
Hi3 was ok even tho they barely had men
tbf, they have Otto and Kevin constantly dressing up differently
rich owl
Welt is solid too
waxen depot
the multiple cross dressing incidents
Welt is funny because in HSR he's just KDrama fashion
not bad necessarily, but not particularly impressive
in OG, Welt has way more outfits tho
polar pike
wait, I just thought about something
what if the devs/mods want to see the crime scene that happened here
are we in theory
tampering with evidence?
waxen depot
anyways, people are trying to tell me HSR is getting a Fate Crossover Revival.
Crazy if true.
Wouldn't say that, if they wanted to do that, they'd seal the thread.
polar pike
im joking, overall I got good vibes from the last messages and the goal to go back and play umineko
I won in the end
waxen depot
Good luck, you can even install Umineko to your android phone with the 07th expansion mod
polar pike
I'll probably buy the steam one and mod in everything
just for ease of access
whenever I wanna play it
and so I dont forget about it whenever I wanna play something
waxen depot
fair, good luck--you'll have to buy both Question and Answer arcs on steam though
polar pike
because god knows how many installed games nonsteam i have on my pc
that I forgot that I even have them
its like finding the kit kat in your coat pocket
after 4 years
waxen depot
that's why I recommend the Switch version if you can get it, since some of the bonus content is also missing from the 07th expansion mod
but it's not needed in the end
polar pike
how costly is it on switch
waxen depot
lemme check
rich owl
I acutally just nuked all non steam games
waxen depot
impossible in the west unless you go digital, it seems
waxen depot
I actually tend to play VN's not on steam
I buy them from JAST usually, if that's possible
sometimes the censorship patches for games, even those with consenting adults in them, end up being clumsy cuts that destroy pacing
rich owl
the only thing I save from VN is the OST
waxen depot
I'd rather just get the uncensored version and speed-read/skim the parts I don't like
Every VN I've played so far has a banger OST
even Raging Loop
rich owl
real
waxen depot
Umineko probably has my favorite OST of all time though
rich owl
I'd rather just get the uncensored version and speed-read/skim the parts I don't...
I usually read uncen all the time bcuz some writer might throw a random tibits into those scenes for characterization
kkk
polar pike
but before I start umineko, I'm nearly done, but I promised myself I finished this slop this month
its lovely slop but
ey
needa finish it
waxen depot
but before I start umineko, I'm nearly done, but I promised myself I finished th...
Oh yeah, I played this for a little
waxen depot
I dropped it back in the day because I didn't like the narrative progression back then
waxen depot
I usually read uncen all the time bcuz some writer might throw a random tibits i...
This is the other reason I skim/speed read. Some scenes are uncomfortable, but they add a little extra characterization. Erotic scenes are almost never purely for the sex.
polar pike
its just like IRL
waxen depot
but it has some good payouts
I might revisit it one day, I just have a huge backlog of RPGs(J,C,W) and VNs rn
rich owl
This is the other reason I skim/speed read. Some scenes are uncomfortable, but t...
writers definitely aware
polar pike
I might revisit it one day, I just have a huge backlog of RPGs(J,C,W) and VNs rn
the problem with it is time
game expects you to play it at least twice
to get the good ending
rich owl
ofc there still slops kkk
rich owl
I might revisit it one day, I just have a huge backlog of RPGs(J,C,W) and VNs rn
ngl the existence of gacha is a major reason I don't finish my backlog 😔
when half of my free time went to daily and weeklies
waxen depot
game expects you to play it at least twice
it's okay, I've played Drakengard, Nier, and stuff like Black Souls before
polar pike
oh okay, veteran
waxen depot
ngl the existence of gacha is a major reason I don't finish my backlog 😔
yeah, especially rn for me since GFL2 has a story patch I need to catch up on
polar pike
I honestly am bad at it tho, 120 hour games take me 150 hours usually
looking at xenoblades and personas and smts
waxen depot
I usually end up 100%ing most of the games I play, even ones I dislike
rich owl
game expects you to play it at least twice
honestly its quite common for jp games to expect u do multiple playthrough
waxen depot
yeah, even DMC expects that huh
polar pike
aw well tru
rich owl
tho so far I can only enjoy doing multiple playthrough in blacksouls
that shit is innovative for a rpgm
waxen depot
I'm surprised how much 2 decided to improve on 1 so far
though I miss my summon buddies...
polar pike
I think the sleeper game I will always want more of but don't want to admit
is Labyrinth of.. series
usually I hate anything in disgaea plots since its nothing to take serious, its just funnny banter
but labyrinth of galleria is quite
a fucking experience
rich owl
I'm surprised how much 2 decided to improve on 1 so far
going from base to dlc1 to dlc2 to dlc3 was insane
like Toro keep topping my expectations
waxen depot
I still have to try Disgaea, funny since I usually like SRPGs and stuff that's in the same vein
polar pike
its a blast
rich owl
and seeing the narrative leaning deeper and deeper into Lovecraft rabbit hole
waxen depot
I just haven't yet because there's so much in my backlog rn
polar pike
but storywise disgaea is really well, niche
they really dont land stories well except for labyrinth of games
(NiS company)
rich owl
but storywise disgaea is really well, niche
characters wise Disgaea aldry drive away mainstream audience
polar pike
and they kinda all have a place those big numbers
rich owl
disgaea my belvoed
polar pike
so its sexy
rich owl
fr fr
waxen depot
I am both happy and sad every time FGO decides to drop new story content.
On the one hand, yay, I'm going to get fantastic writing.
On the other hand, well, there goes 30+ hours.
waxen depot
LB7 was somehow good despite the fact that 80% of the NPCs were all dinosaurs.
Nasu manages to write compelling stories that don't sound good in synopsis.
rich owl
he has bee nwriting those stories since ages
waxen depot
Morimens is heavily inspired by Type Moon, but I don't see that as a bad thing.
rich owl
it make sense kkk
its the other way around, type moon have gigantic impact on the weebs
and BIAV are weebs
waxen depot
I know a lot of people get upset when you point out inspirations in works they enjoy, but I think Morimens is innovative enough to not make it feel like a rip-off.
rich owl
even in this sv ppl can get upset when u point out Lovecraft inspirations
as a side note, our lead writer also suggest ppl to read the books kkk
waxen depot
I guess it's the concept that pointing out the inspirations devalues the work because it seems less original.
I still need to read a few, I've read most of them, but I'm missing a couple due to the compendium I owned not being complete.
rich owl
fair enough
I simply enjoy digging out the links between different works
half of my imaginations stem from linkings fictions together kek
dark fractal
How tf do I get to the top of this to view the original announcement? There's like 20 billion messages in the way
balmy charm
There is an arrow, upper right
final rivet
say less
final rivet
why does goya have to say less, what are you? the say more police?
yes.
polar pike
dyss
neon loom
There is an arrow, upper right
Not on mobile
rain heron
final rivet
true!
rough gull
2965
jade seal
and it conveys its themes in a very bad way
I’d put it more on the people who romanticized clockwork orange guy lmfao
Besides that, I personally hold the belief that author should be free to convey their story in ways most appropriate to their peculiarity
If art were to be treated for its ability to build society’s character then it’s just a propaganda tool
If it were to be valued solely for its literature merit, it’ll be nothing but sterile academic subject, I’m not here to read some psychological profile or exploration of social phenomenon goddammit
polar pike
I’d put it more on the people who romanticized clockwork orange guy lmfao
Beside...
I think after unpacking what you said very cleverly yeah, Its an insight looking at things that way, by that way I mean treating art as something to build society's character being parallel to using propaganda, In no way I think works such as those that might touch on offensive topics should be made while threading on eggshells as long as its obvious fiction that used no one's integrity.
But even then there's limits of course, so I'd prefer not bringing up straight up ass media, like ||bnp||, which is a fucked up fetish in its entirety.
well I still brought it up
but yeah, people used ||bnp|| like 👯♀️ 1️⃣ 🥤 for shock value in the past
the former is amazingly fucked up in today's standards
need to save myself from what I typed there as an example for posteority
who knows knows
gritty robin
collab with this pls
you know peak
floral tapir
collab with this pls
Yes please
That little girl godlike creature sure beats Saya the flesh lump right
prisma umbra
guys we are almost 3k maybe the code is at 3k who knows 
reef garnet
