#✅「Answered」Possibilities of Doresain kit rework

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karmic knot
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HOW?

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So me need exalt now?Or wait 10 embryo?Or wait pickman oe?

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She can NOTHING

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And doresain shit?

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xDDDDDDD

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lol

near verge
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She's multihit character, so make sense her base damage is low

karmic knot
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Well for now she hit(even if we take x10 critdmg) 9 times x2k?

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Turn 4

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xD

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I have no idea what do

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NOTHING

near verge
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So how much is she actually hitting after you chromaphage + her exalt lol

karmic knot
near verge
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Interesting

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Is it a harder clear compared to doresain

karmic knot
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Imagine i play doresain without thais

near verge
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You don't give thais to doresain normally anyway

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I run him with pickman and clem

karmic knot
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Also

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With doresain i control what i do

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I can skip turn and not kill mob for example even if i can

near verge
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You can't do that with sorel?

karmic knot
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No cuz multihit lol

near verge
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might need to get a sorel expert to comment

karmic knot
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If you add something like 3k str +horla oe +15 stack clem she sure can dmg

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KingDMGsain

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Next turn kill+heal

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i even not buff him lol

karmic knot
subtle crater
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Another dore rework idea since i wanna write anything but my fanfic rn

near verge
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I get you

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I don't feel like writing my dnd script now either

subtle crater
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Dore shouldve been the king of procrastination since its a very strong thing

subtle crater
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Exalt:Devour:[Consume All Corpses, Final Damage, Crit Rate and Crit Damage of this Exalt +5% for every Corpse Consumed] Deal X Damage to the highest health enemy, gain 50% embryo fusion, Ghouls randomly switches their intentions, give all Doresain cards in hand Reanimation +1.

OverExaltation:Devour:[Consume all Corpses, Then temporarily gain as much Corpses as consumed,for every Corpses consumed, Final Damage, Crit Rate, Crit Damage, Base Damage of this Exalt by 10%] Deal X Damage to the Highest health enemy, Embryo Fusion 100%, Change all Ghouls intention to a preferred one. Grant all Skills in hand and Doresain Cards Reanimation +1.

3 Cost: Deal x Damage to all Enemies, Summon a Ghoul with a random intention, if there already is a Ghoul, create an Evernight Revel in hand. Reanimation.

4 Cost: Deal x Damage to the highest health enemy, Summon a Ghoul, if there already is a Ghoul, Gain a Corpse, Embryo Fusion 50%, and this card has Reanimation.

Rouse: 8 Cost
Trigger all Corpse Stack Effect.
Corpses Trigger their respectice stack effect at the end of the turn with halved efficiency.
Reduce my cost by 1 for each Corpse gained and consumed.
Killing a Ghoul grants Reanimation to a random card in hand.
Put this card in hand whenever reaching 10 Corpses with my Original costs.

Reanimation:When this card is played and sets remaining Arithmethica to 0, for each stack, create a 0 cost copy with Fleeting and Exhaust, when played, Discard a random command card in hand without Reanimation.

Evernight Revel: Deal x Damage to all Enemies, gain bonuses depending on the enemy intention when they got killed.

Buff: Gain 20 Strength
Debuff: Inflict Weakness or Vulnerable.
Attack: Final Damage +50%.

Corpses: Stack up to 10 times, gain a Corpse whenever Doresain kills an Enemy, trigger unique effects depending on the corpse count.

near verge
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Summoner doresain

subtle crater
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When stacking a Corpse to:
1- Final Damage of Doresain Exalt and Cards +2%
2- Crit Rate of Doresain +2%
3- Crit Damage of Doresain +2%
4- Heal for 100 health
5-Embryo Fusion +30%
6- Aliemus for all Allies +10
7-Gain 150 Keyflare
8-Gain 30 Strength
9-Recover 2 Arithmetica
10- Trigger All Corpse Stack effect. When still at 10 stacks on turn end, trigger all Corpse Stack effect for half its effienciency.

Ghoul: Hp X 40 times Dore's constitution (Preset, 5000)
Intentions:
Debuff: Inflict 20 poison and Weakness
Buff: Strength +20 to the Highest health Ally and Permanent Reinforce +5%
Attack: Madness +1 for each Allied Ghoul.

Whenever Doresain kills an Enemy, create an Evernight Revel in hand, and a Corpse Stack. Every point of Crit Damagebin Doresain's Stats, Wheels, and Covenant Sets also converts to Crit Rate.

When facing a [Lemurian, Fish] type, Ghouls are summoned with half their hp, and Reanimation are always triggeredm

E1-Removing an Hp bar now counts as Doresain killing an Enemy. Summon a Ghoul whenever another ally kills a Non Ghoul enemy.

E2-When playing an Evernight Revel, increase the Final damage of other Evernight Revels this turn by 20%.

E3- Double all Corpse Stack effects.

Thought Process: A corpse centered rework, taking inspiration from Daffodil e2 while aspiring to full powercreep her, each kill grants bonuses, while Ensuring doresain has ways to still snowball even on fights that summons less mobs, this then takes inspiration from the wave 4 boss who summons their small own mobs, while no longer Caro flavored in his kit, it fully embraces his role as the king of ghouls, getting the bonuses from his kills like he is eating them, an undead army, and a ravenous man.

subtle crater
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Ssr Wheel: Dance of the Dead. Crit Damage Stat
Whenever the Wearer kills an enemy, gain 7/8/9/10 Str, and deal 10x the Wearer's Attack to the Highest Health Enemy, for up to 2 times per turn. If Realm is "Caro", grant a Random card of the wearer Reanimation +1 per turn.

Sr Wheel: Leftover Carrions. Crit Damage Stat
Whenever the Wearer kills an enemy, gain 1/2/3/4 Black Sigils and 50/75/100/125 keyflare.

compact storm
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pack it up lads doresain will be powercrept entirely by the next awaker 😔

near verge
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What if she's doorstain support

compact storm
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you mean sorel support?

near verge
storm hamlet
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You mean pandia's support?

compact storm
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she will make red tawil best tawil trust

open walrus
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Another dedicated sorel support

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Life cannot get better

subtle crater
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Anotber Sorellion damage support for sorel

storm hamlet
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cry3 let's revive this thread just a little bit

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1 day without a message is quite rare

open walrus
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The agenda continues in silence

karmic knot
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Just haters busy suck d*cks

storm hamlet
karmic knot
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Idk how this ppls even can eat

storm hamlet
karmic knot
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Maybe they need help

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Daily kingDMGsain

fallow cedar
storm hamlet
near verge
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the harm is done

karmic knot
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Not any reasons not pull one of the best dps in game

haughty oracle
haughty oracle
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It's all contained

subtle crater
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Im just finishing my fanfic rn

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Doresain and his kit might be dead but this thread will never be

near verge
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Next song playing: Staying alive

compact storm
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omg xu is support

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she absolutely wil make doorstain viable trust!11!!

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-# by reducing him into a str bot for her to dps

karmic knot
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Yes yes

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Genshin faaaaaaanboys going circle and touch nearbly d*cks and say: Genshin better gacha ever.Sooooo better.All copy our game!All copy our characters!Noooo games before our game!Even universe start from genshin...Looks stupid right?...Now you form your circle like this guys

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lol

round bone
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Guys new elite pasta dropped Cheerup

brittle compass
# round bone Guys new elite pasta dropped <:Cheerup:1400771555939844149>

Doorstain faaaaaaanboys going circle and touch nearbly d*cks and say: Doorstain better awakener ever.Sooooo better.All copy our kit !All copy our our 0 dmg. !Noooo dps carry before our awakener. !Even universe start from Doorstain...Looks stupid right?...Now you form your circle like this guys

karmic knot
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Only one difference

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I not say he better awakener)

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If we talk seriously

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Why not need buff ghelot who literaly unplayable at a5 without aigis?Why not need buff corpo who never reach 1 million dmg without abuses before turn 40?Why not buff 24 who never reach doresain dmg lvl?Why i not see funny memes about useless tawil who almost cant a5 already?

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This just you useless stupid parrots

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Now understand?

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And this guys give all best supports overrated shit characters(or they cant play lol) than run doresain with pandia and doll and say doorstain no dmg...You even NOT have brains just try lol

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More fun.They joke about reddit who eat flares shit and consider her c-tier.But do same and all good

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Sure

open walrus
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I do think Corpo needs more stuff added to her kit

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But I feel that's more of lack of good discard comps

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Less of Corpo

next karma
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please buff thais instead she's not doing any dmg 🙏

fallow cedar
compact storm
karmic knot
compact storm
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pickman is fvcking punchbag lmao

elder lion
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1100 comments
yeahhhhhhhhh

karmic knot
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7 flails best dps

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SOOOOOOOOOO many dmg

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ahahahaahah

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Can just nothing without horla

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0 dmg

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)))

versed timber
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this one not even about dore 🥀

karmic knot
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This about dore

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Here all see S-tier dps with HIIIIIIIIGH utility suck(like doresain haters) when GODsain kill it on 2nd exalt(turn 4)

compact storm
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bruh that mf also die to bleed turn 4

karmic knot
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@compact storm No.Now bleed counts before image gone so...

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I not joke

compact storm
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ok I get it

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ghelot is at her retire age now

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💔

karmic knot
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If i place horla here sure i can 4-5 turns

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But I THINK if character S-tier he not must be unplayable without 1 character)

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I not say ghelot shit btw

compact storm
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lol tawil also couldn't hit 1 mil without proper supports

karmic knot
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If you give her or doresain same supports they do same perfomance...Only difference ghelot can a5 on e3 this yes.KingDMGsain need oe for true dmg

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Tawil shit

compact storm
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honestly the whole arguments about doresain isn't entirely about his damage output, he's just clunky to play at times

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and there's edge cases like doll kill his gimmicks entirely

compact storm
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overall he still eat suppors but he can do a5 without +4

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number just not high

karmic knot
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He need his wheel

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This 30 mana difference very important

compact storm
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I do wave 3 so I ran lotan wheel instead, normally I give him his wheel

karmic knot
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Cuz i try with and without wheel(many setups)

compact storm
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doresain can't pull off remarkable bullshits like kath on his own though he does play well into caro's sustain and kinda surprised me on his stalling this d tide

karmic knot
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Well

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He still worst arc 2 character

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But he not no dmg lol

compact storm
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true

cyan umbra
compact storm
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he still exalt for smt like 60k

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not bad ig

cyan umbra
compact storm
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afaik its supposed to be ur main way of dealing with her phase 2 (or just nuke it with piercing)

compact storm
cyan umbra
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i tried it, but even with 3 on hand, it will still take 22 turns

compact storm
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if u nuke her phase 1 then proceed to spam piercing u can nuke phase 2 b4 she have fortress

cyan umbra
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it may help a bit, but she get str every turn too

compact storm
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hmm

cyan umbra
# compact storm hmm

did send a feedback time ago to lament that those cards were not enough with those values

compact storm
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ye aisha ultimately is still top 5 obnoxious fight

karmic knot
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Looks like overrated S-tier need buff

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If lose against doorstain...Or shitstain?Uselessain?

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Imagine i ultimate 3 or even 4 times+gdoll card in total 1.2kk hp

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S-tier carry with 1500 str

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ahahahaahahaha

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How look real s-tier dps for example

subtle crater
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Fucked it up but possible

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I shouldnt have killed on last sepsis and delayed till i got both my aigis and dore on exalt

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If only im whale and can undo turn

karmic knot
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Just whale

compact storm
karmic knot
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Yes.Tawil ruin any team

compact storm
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bluewil agenda and its consequences are dire

compact storm
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ur just gimping tawil by being cheap smh

gleaming shoal
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Support dore

runic axle
karmic knot
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@gleaming shoal Wow.He can be dps and he can be support str-bot.Ultimate utility i think

karmic knot
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Daily reminder

compact storm
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ur comparing a tank and a dps vro 💔

whole carbon
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Guys let us not go through the wrong hole here. The original issue was never about Ghoul King shitstain being bad or not strong enough. It was about his design flaws and inconsistency. Let us not get emotional and stay true to our purpose.

compact storm
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trve his OE is still garbage and bland even standard has better OE that also leaverage their strength

karmic knot
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Investigation-D-Effect Zone: Wave 2: Alert V Battle Replay
Keeper: WhaleLeap(100807061)

a2c60772-59f9-33ae-b122-a5c82ee4f450#E#a

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2500 str doorstain

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Uff this one i restart 77 times just for screenshot

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It was almost unplayable

karmic knot
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Cherry picking

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Full +12 3 premium supports

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Pickman help too

karmic knot
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So i can any wave this tide without problem(except w4 cuz decay nerf him hard).Without pickman without aigis without thais and clem and even without +12 wheels

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What else?

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Now image carry him?

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xDDDDD

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Not any difference between reddit and GODsain haters...My account whaled yes.Many +12...But not this carry account)

compact storm
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doorstain dmg is gucci but he's worse than kath pollux gmur mouche whose can carry on their own to save those bricked accounts

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allat hype only for a good dps if invested jajaja

karmic knot
near verge
karmic knot
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W4 yes cuz this -35% dmg.His 1st ultimate almost no dmg +this.Nerf him hard

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And even if you avoid decay you still have 2 turn weakness)

fallow cedar
near verge
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W4 is the hardest wave

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Should have cleared that first

fallow cedar
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The Miryam OE came in clutch

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Not for the tentacle
But for the 3x Sacrament

near verge
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Myriam OE, must be whale

runic axle
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Too whale

karmic knot
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Flares victim

fallow cedar
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You guys know I am the biggest Blue believer in this server, right ?

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Also yes I am a whale

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I am proud of being a Lotan

near verge
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Frost want to battle

open walrus
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I'm a starving whale

compact storm
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omg +12 awaker will get more buff

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doorstain will become good at +12 trust

karmic knot
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Already good

compact storm
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nuh uh this will convince ppl +12 doorstain good

compact storm
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omg full premium support + wods and fraudsain still struggling 😭

near verge
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Was able to do it without thais

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But still kinda oof

runic axle
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wow doresain A5? he's playable now no buff/kits qol needed

fallow cedar
waxen marten
near verge
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Sadge

compact storm
near verge
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I think the main issue

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Other than the targeting

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Is 3 cost being super clunky

compact storm
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also not all gank boss are free real estate for him

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man legit have 0 damage to kill w1 boss

near verge
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When pickman first released, I thought his kit is kinda clunky because he steals arith from doresain, so he cant scalt with 3 cost. but it turns out, doresain card is the real brick

compact storm
near verge
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Spending arith on pickman is a million times better

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He just needed clem

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And 3 DR

compact storm
near verge
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Still feels Pretty pointless to scale with that

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You are better off playing pickman card to generate more babies and temp str

compact storm
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perma scaling felt like a scam in this game

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temp buffs are much faster istg

subtle crater
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Sorel upscale

fierce heron
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TWO Scythes

wispy plaza
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Guess the Doresain buff will forever be a community meme ramona_tuff_

fierce heron
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Really. Just give more stages with many enemies on screen just how Mother boss fight had

candid rampart
fallow cedar
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Finally a contender to Doresain for the title of worst Arc 2 character

tacit wharf
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Sorry, she seems (edit, as I didn't do nearly enough testing) stronger than him. I wanted to use her to set up the mobs for him to finish off, but she keeps killing the mobs herself 🥲

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Oh, and once she got the enemy to like 1/3 hp bar, Dore didn't manage to finish it off either, so

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Where are the buffs, seriously

arctic wagon
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the Saya thread is going to pass this thread’s message count any moment now

Dore can’t even be the awakener with the longest thread he has 0 Ws

wispy plaza
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AA will save Dore, trust

arctic wagon
elder lion
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you can do it Bagel

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save Doresain!

brave path
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Doorstain buff incoming trust

cyan night
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At least you got a response. Goyo san is pretending the post about '24' doesn't exist 24_Clown

arctic wagon
worn yacht
waxen marten
arctic wagon
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🫡

fallow cedar
compact storm
cyan night
fossil patrol
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@near verge did this get answered?

Im trying to find it, but its long.

arctic wagon
fossil patrol
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Thanks.

cyan night
brave path
haughty oracle
haughty oracle
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Since that Copy Pasta was made

subtle crater
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They learned from doresain and actually gave vortice her posse to actually do her second thing

fallow cedar
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If yes
Would you still love him, if he was good ?

brave path
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Would you love me, if I do 5 damage on crit

waxen marten
whole carbon
compact storm
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imagine imagine
ur on last final days of this d tide cycle
ur decide to go a4 w1 doorstain hoping he would make it quick
mfw it still take 10 turn to kill the boss
mfw even on easy mode a4 faint cannot carry him if u greed for dmg omgbruh

wispy plaza
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I think it's over

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nothing can or will save Dore at this point

mellow grail
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an unannounced awakener will save dore just trust me on this one

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it will be after arachne just believe me

candid rampart
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caraboo will save doresain by turning him into what he was always meant to be

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a support

compact storm
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"H-he'll be good if he has image and allowed to ramp up!11!!"
the oppotunity to ramp up in question

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doorstain rly is just a3 slayer kkk

brave path
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Oof

subtle crater
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Its okay hes a smurfer and thats necessary for the matchmaking of a moba

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Wdym the game is pve

wispy plaza
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Can we say it is over for Doresain, if it never began in the first place?

mellow grail
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will the new p2w crit damage wheel save fraudesain

brave path
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probably no........

subtle crater
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Well he still have to crit first

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The thing about doresain is that hes also either overkilling or the damage is just subpar

candid rampart
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120% crit is... 12% crit rate

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doorstain finally saved

cyan night
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Crit dmg is good but how you wanna make 100% crit rate?

wispy plaza
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Just hit the crit

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Pray to RNGesus, idk

compact storm
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omg bruh my doorstain can't even a4 w1 this d tide

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I just want a chill w1 with my leftover scraps wtf

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this mf is even worse than scraps

cyan night
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AA save doresain?

arctic wagon
brave path
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wait the rouse is good now???

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Crazy

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Oh that's AA

elder lion
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it’s kinda shitty

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they said they won’t fix units with AA

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apparently Doresain is a special case

tacit wharf
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wow. just... wow

brave path
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Doresain so bad he needs aa

mellow grail
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this guy is still a bum tho

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why does it feel like he needs 100% crit rate to actually crit takenotes

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aight im not putting this fucking bum on any of my clears

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i just missed a 90% crit

next karma
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dore is fixed?

brave path
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By AA

mossy thunder
wispy plaza
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Such is the world we live in

arctic wagon
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we won

mossy thunder
brittle compass
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I feel somewhat vindicated

brave path
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A long and arduous battle

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For doresain to get what he should have in the first place

subtle crater
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He still dont have aliemus gain so no

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The fight continues

mellow grail
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imagine needing your own wheel

candid rampart
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3 turn cooldown merchant

subtle crater
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Dies merchant

compact storm
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-# except every ghoul and their mother loves stacking DR

wispy plaza
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The 20% current HP dmg to all enemies is a robbery btw

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The fact it is only on AA

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Normal kit should at least have 10%

compact storm
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nah his base rouse should have 20%

next karma
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Wait is dore still not fixed? shocked

compact storm
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his AA fixed him

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problem is he need AA to be playable

brittle compass
# compact storm problem is he need AA to be playable

Thank you so much for such a thoughtful breakdown of Doresain's 💩 design. It's clear you care deeply about our 💩 king. And honestly, we really love him being bad. We love seeing the the people who foolishly pulled for him struggle.

Our design team will continuously laugh 0Mich_Laugh at the people who stubbornly still decide to play him and look for new opportunities and fights to completely nullify his already lacking kit.
We have always practiced this and believe his strength and role should be looking cool CS_Cool and sounding cool and give other awakeners the opportunity to step onto the stage to actually do damage.

Doresain CH_PepeShitRocket is currently not included in the project team's adjustment plan, but we will continue to observe your struggles and laugh.
We truly appreciate players who take the time to send us such detailed feedback. mirakopointlaugh Thank you for being such a dedicated advocate for him!

brittle compass
compact storm
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aged like fine wine

brave path
subtle crater
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Before the update rolls

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Reminder that hes still useless unless aa

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The 50% overkill damage spread is simply a nice bonus against mobs for better clear

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Aa doresain playstyle drastically changes as it becomes centered on the 100% to abuse mobs

compact storm
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his AA still do 20% hp dmg so it help his initial nukes and make him struggle a bit less vs boss fights lmao

wispy plaza
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Funniest thing is that even these buffs won't fix him

compact storm