#✅「Answered」Possibilities of Doresain kit rework
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So me need exalt now?Or wait 10 embryo?Or wait pickman oe?
She can NOTHING
And doresain shit?
xDDDDDDD
lol
Well for now she hit(even if we take x10 critdmg) 9 times x2k?
Turn 4
xD
I have no idea what do
NOTHING
So how much is she actually hitting after you chromaphage + her exalt lol
Imagine i play doresain without thais
Also
With doresain i control what i do
I can skip turn and not kill mob for example even if i can
You can't do that with sorel?
No cuz multihit lol
If you add something like 3k str +horla oe +15 stack clem she sure can dmg
KingDMGsain
Next turn kill+heal
i even not buff him lol
???
Another dore rework idea since i wanna write anything but my fanfic rn
Dore shouldve been the king of procrastination since its a very strong thing
Exalt:Devour:[Consume All Corpses, Final Damage, Crit Rate and Crit Damage of this Exalt +5% for every Corpse Consumed] Deal X Damage to the highest health enemy, gain 50% embryo fusion, Ghouls randomly switches their intentions, give all Doresain cards in hand Reanimation +1.
OverExaltation:Devour:[Consume all Corpses, Then temporarily gain as much Corpses as consumed,for every Corpses consumed, Final Damage, Crit Rate, Crit Damage, Base Damage of this Exalt by 10%] Deal X Damage to the Highest health enemy, Embryo Fusion 100%, Change all Ghouls intention to a preferred one. Grant all Skills in hand and Doresain Cards Reanimation +1.
3 Cost: Deal x Damage to all Enemies, Summon a Ghoul with a random intention, if there already is a Ghoul, create an Evernight Revel in hand. Reanimation.
4 Cost: Deal x Damage to the highest health enemy, Summon a Ghoul, if there already is a Ghoul, Gain a Corpse, Embryo Fusion 50%, and this card has Reanimation.
Rouse: 8 Cost
Trigger all Corpse Stack Effect.
Corpses Trigger their respectice stack effect at the end of the turn with halved efficiency.
Reduce my cost by 1 for each Corpse gained and consumed.
Killing a Ghoul grants Reanimation to a random card in hand.
Put this card in hand whenever reaching 10 Corpses with my Original costs.
Reanimation:When this card is played and sets remaining Arithmethica to 0, for each stack, create a 0 cost copy with Fleeting and Exhaust, when played, Discard a random command card in hand without Reanimation.
Evernight Revel: Deal x Damage to all Enemies, gain bonuses depending on the enemy intention when they got killed.
Buff: Gain 20 Strength
Debuff: Inflict Weakness or Vulnerable.
Attack: Final Damage +50%.
Corpses: Stack up to 10 times, gain a Corpse whenever Doresain kills an Enemy, trigger unique effects depending on the corpse count.
Summoner doresain
When stacking a Corpse to:
1- Final Damage of Doresain Exalt and Cards +2%
2- Crit Rate of Doresain +2%
3- Crit Damage of Doresain +2%
4- Heal for 100 health
5-Embryo Fusion +30%
6- Aliemus for all Allies +10
7-Gain 150 Keyflare
8-Gain 30 Strength
9-Recover 2 Arithmetica
10- Trigger All Corpse Stack effect. When still at 10 stacks on turn end, trigger all Corpse Stack effect for half its effienciency.
Ghoul: Hp X 40 times Dore's constitution (Preset, 5000)
Intentions:
Debuff: Inflict 20 poison and Weakness
Buff: Strength +20 to the Highest health Ally and Permanent Reinforce +5%
Attack: Madness +1 for each Allied Ghoul.
Whenever Doresain kills an Enemy, create an Evernight Revel in hand, and a Corpse Stack. Every point of Crit Damagebin Doresain's Stats, Wheels, and Covenant Sets also converts to Crit Rate.
When facing a [Lemurian, Fish] type, Ghouls are summoned with half their hp, and Reanimation are always triggeredm
E1-Removing an Hp bar now counts as Doresain killing an Enemy. Summon a Ghoul whenever another ally kills a Non Ghoul enemy.
E2-When playing an Evernight Revel, increase the Final damage of other Evernight Revels this turn by 20%.
E3- Double all Corpse Stack effects.
Thought Process: A corpse centered rework, taking inspiration from Daffodil e2 while aspiring to full powercreep her, each kill grants bonuses, while Ensuring doresain has ways to still snowball even on fights that summons less mobs, this then takes inspiration from the wave 4 boss who summons their small own mobs, while no longer Caro flavored in his kit, it fully embraces his role as the king of ghouls, getting the bonuses from his kills like he is eating them, an undead army, and a ravenous man.
Ssr Wheel: Dance of the Dead. Crit Damage Stat
Whenever the Wearer kills an enemy, gain 7/8/9/10 Str, and deal 10x the Wearer's Attack to the Highest Health Enemy, for up to 2 times per turn. If Realm is "Caro", grant a Random card of the wearer Reanimation +1 per turn.
Sr Wheel: Leftover Carrions. Crit Damage Stat
Whenever the Wearer kills an enemy, gain 1/2/3/4 Black Sigils and 50/75/100/125 keyflare.
pack it up lads doresain will be powercrept entirely by the next awaker 😔
What if she's doorstain support
you mean sorel support?

You mean pandia's support?
she will make red tawil best tawil trust
Anotber Sorellion damage support for sorel
The agenda continues in silence
Just haters busy suck d*cks

Idk how this ppls even can eat

Doresain is already rerunning
And newbies already brought him to E3/OE/+12
It's too late

the harm is done
Not any reasons not pull one of the best dps in game

Nobody to stop Reddit Users & players who didn't check in the Discord for additional advice on pulling Characters
It's all contained
I have anotber rework idea dw
Im just finishing my fanfic rn

Doresain and his kit might be dead but this thread will never be
Next song playing: Staying alive
omg xu is support
she absolutely wil make doorstain viable trust!11!!
-# by reducing him into a str bot for her to dps
Yes yes
Genshin faaaaaaanboys going circle and touch nearbly d*cks and say: Genshin better gacha ever.Sooooo better.All copy our game!All copy our characters!Noooo games before our game!Even universe start from genshin...Looks stupid right?...Now you form your circle like this guys
lol
Guys new elite pasta dropped 
Doorstain faaaaaaanboys going circle and touch nearbly d*cks and say: Doorstain better awakener ever.Sooooo better.All copy our kit !All copy our our 0 dmg. !Noooo dps carry before our awakener. !Even universe start from Doorstain...Looks stupid right?...Now you form your circle like this guys
Only one difference
I not say he better awakener)
If we talk seriously
Why not need buff ghelot who literaly unplayable at a5 without aigis?Why not need buff corpo who never reach 1 million dmg without abuses before turn 40?Why not buff 24 who never reach doresain dmg lvl?Why i not see funny memes about useless tawil who almost cant a5 already?
This just you useless stupid parrots
Now understand?
And this guys give all best supports overrated shit characters(or they cant play lol) than run doresain with pandia and doll and say doorstain no dmg...You even NOT have brains just try lol
More fun.They joke about reddit who eat flares shit and consider her c-tier.But do same and all good
Sure
I do think Corpo needs more stuff added to her kit
But I feel that's more of lack of good discard comps
Less of Corpo
please buff thais instead she's not doing any dmg 🙏
It's true that
There are only 3 "discard" characters in the game
Corpo, Aurita and Cassiah
Not even enough to make a full team
24 do need buff i dont remember seeing her much in a5 nowadays
pickman is fvcking punchbag lmao
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yeahhhhhhhhh
7 flails best dps
SOOOOOOOOOO many dmg
ahahahaahah
Can just nothing without horla
0 dmg
)))
this one not even about dore 🥀
This about dore
Here all see S-tier dps with HIIIIIIIIGH utility suck(like doresain haters) when GODsain kill it on 2nd exalt(turn 4)
bruh that mf also die to bleed turn 4
If i place horla here sure i can 4-5 turns
But I THINK if character S-tier he not must be unplayable without 1 character)
I not say ghelot shit btw
lol tawil also couldn't hit 1 mil without proper supports
If you give her or doresain same supports they do same perfomance...Only difference ghelot can a5 on e3 this yes.KingDMGsain need oe for true dmg
Tawil shit
honestly the whole arguments about doresain isn't entirely about his damage output, he's just clunky to play at times
and there's edge cases like doll kill his gimmicks entirely
have faith in faint
overall he still eat suppors but he can do a5 without +4
number just not high

I do wave 3 so I ran lotan wheel instead, normally I give him his wheel
Cuz i try with and without wheel(many setups)
doresain can't pull off remarkable bullshits like kath on his own though he does play well into caro's sustain and kinda surprised me on his stalling this d tide
true
ah, lol, i can understand why it worked, that is the only boss that start at 50% hp in the second phase
actually for aisha just hold 3-4 wick and let her die out lol
he still exalt for smt like 60k
not bad ig
wait, the cards works? before they did like 1% of her hp
ye wick bypass her fortress
afaik its supposed to be ur main way of dealing with her phase 2 (or just nuke it with piercing)
piercing don't work on fortress
she only gain fortress by using her rouse
i tried it, but even with 3 on hand, it will still take 22 turns
if u nuke her phase 1 then proceed to spam piercing u can nuke phase 2 b4 she have fortress
it may help a bit, but she get str every turn too
hmm
ah, in that sense
did send a feedback time ago to lament that those cards were not enough with those values
ye aisha ultimately is still top 5 obnoxious fight
Looks like overrated S-tier need buff
If lose against doorstain...Or shitstain?Uselessain?
Imagine i ultimate 3 or even 4 times+gdoll card in total 1.2kk hp
S-tier carry with 1500 str
ahahahaahahaha
How look real s-tier dps for example
Fucked it up but possible
I shouldnt have killed on last sepsis and delayed till i got both my aigis and dore on exalt
If only im whale and can undo turn

Just whale
ur 1st mistake is running tawil instead of an embryo slave to feed doorstain
Yes.Tawil ruin any team
Ew no thats too premium
ur just gimping tawil by being cheap smh
S tier🔥
@gleaming shoal Wow.He can be dps and he can be support str-bot.Ultimate utility i think
Daily reminder
ur comparing a tank and a dps vro 💔
Guys let us not go through the wrong hole here. The original issue was never about Ghoul King shitstain being bad or not strong enough. It was about his design flaws and inconsistency. Let us not get emotional and stay true to our purpose.
trve his OE is still garbage and bland even standard has better OE that also leaverage their strength

Investigation-D-Effect Zone: Wave 2: Alert V Battle Replay
Keeper: WhaleLeap(100807061)
a2c60772-59f9-33ae-b122-a5c82ee4f450#E#a
2500 str doorstain
Uff this one i restart 77 times just for screenshot
It was almost unplayable
Huh... Sup twin
???
So i can any wave this tide without problem(except w4 cuz decay nerf him hard).Without pickman without aigis without thais and clem and even without +12 wheels
What else?
Now image carry him?
xDDDDD
Not any difference between reddit and GODsain haters...My account whaled yes.Many +12...But not this carry account)
bruh bcuz u whaled vro 💔 90% of morimens player got scammed by bluewil and bricked their acc by listening to flares noobait, they can't afford to build proper support let alone premium supports like ur acc
doorstain dmg is gucci but he's worse than kath pollux gmur mouche whose can carry on their own to save those bricked accounts

allat hype only for a good dps if invested jajaja
???
i feel like w4 is so ass
W4 yes cuz this -35% dmg.His 1st ultimate almost no dmg +this.Nerf him hard
And even if you avoid decay you still have 2 turn weakness)
I feel that using discard on W5 was a critical mistake on my part
None of my other teams can beat the W4 boss in A5
It's fine
I found a way
The Miryam OE came in clutch
Not for the tentacle
But for the 3x Sacrament
Flares victim
You guys know I am the biggest Blue believer in this server, right ?
Also yes I am a whale
I am proud of being a Lotan
Frost want to battle
I'm a starving whale
Already good
nuh uh this will convince ppl +12 doorstain good
omg full premium support + wods and fraudsain still struggling 😭
wow doresain A5? he's playable now no buff/kits qol needed
And not just any wave
But the Wave 2 !!
With premium supports, including OE Clem, probably one of the most broken generalist supports currently
Clearly proof that Doresain is in a perfect state right now
Use goliath for bigger number
Sadge
also not all gank boss are free real estate for him
man legit have 0 damage to kill w1 boss
When pickman first released, I thought his kit is kinda clunky because he steals arith from doresain, so he cant scalt with 3 cost. but it turns out, doresain card is the real brick

Spending arith on pickman is a million times better
He just needed clem
And 3 DR

highest perma str and it still need thais dupe to be useful
Still feels Pretty pointless to scale with that
You are better off playing pickman card to generate more babies and temp str

Sorel upscale
TWO Scythes
Guess the Doresain buff will forever be a community meme 
Really. Just give more stages with many enemies on screen just how Mother boss fight had
just put wifi fish in every stage 
Finally a contender to Doresain for the title of worst Arc 2 character
Sorry, she seems (edit, as I didn't do nearly enough testing) stronger than him. I wanted to use her to set up the mobs for him to finish off, but she keeps killing the mobs herself 🥲
Oh, and once she got the enemy to like 1/3 hp bar, Dore didn't manage to finish it off either, so
Where are the buffs, seriously
the Saya thread is going to pass this thread’s message count any moment now
Dore can’t even be the awakener with the longest thread he has 0 Ws
update, not only has it passed it. it doubled Dore’s message count
Will no one think of the poor Dores
At least you got a response. Goyo san is pretending the post about '24' doesn't exist 
Goya is just waiting for it to hit 23999k messages so they can say no as message number 24k
Ngl i think that’s part of the point, get super big temporary buffs or go slower long-term perma scaling
because that thread becomes a chat channel while this thread stays true to its intention, slandering doorstain
🫡
Collab controversy is temporary
While slandering Doresain is eternal !
I will keep slandering Doorstain
even if he join Mouchette as C Tier DPS I will never stop slandering Doorstain
I want the fandom to slander Doorstain even after the game die
I NEVER STOP! As long as I play Morimen I will be asking for a buff/rework 24!!! 
@near verge did this get answered?
Im trying to find it, but its long.
it got a no in coportate talk
Thanks.
Unfortunately its the:
"Your two main points about doresain is correct " response
Damn wtf
It's almost been 3 Months
Since that Copy Pasta was made
They learned from doresain and actually gave vortice her posse to actually do her second thing
Would you love me, if I do 5 damage on crit

If only he could deliver them. I am gonna die of old age before he starts hitting those crits lol.
imagine imagine
ur on last final days of this d tide cycle
ur decide to go a4 w1 doorstain hoping he would make it quick
mfw it still take 10 turn to kill the boss
mfw even on easy mode a4 faint cannot carry him if u greed for dmg omgbruh
an unannounced awakener will save dore just trust me on this one
it will be after arachne just believe me
caraboo will save doresain by turning him into what he was always meant to be
a support
"H-he'll be good if he has image and allowed to ramp up!11!!"
the oppotunity to ramp up in question
doorstain rly is just a3 slayer kkk
Oof
Its okay hes a smurfer and thats necessary for the matchmaking of a moba
Wdym the game is pve
Can we say it is over for Doresain, if it never began in the first place?
will the new p2w crit damage wheel save fraudesain
probably no........
Well he still have to crit first
The thing about doresain is that hes also either overkilling or the damage is just subpar
Crit dmg is good but how you wanna make 100% crit rate?
omg bruh my doorstain can't even a4 w1 this d tide
I just want a chill w1 with my leftover scraps wtf
this mf is even worse than scraps
AA save doresain?
finally after begging for some AoE and overflow damage we finally get it 🥹
it’s kinda shitty
they said they won’t fix units with AA
apparently Doresain is a special case
wow. just... wow
this guy is still a bum tho
why does it feel like he needs 100% crit rate to actually crit 
aight im not putting this fucking bum on any of my clears
i just missed a 90% crit
dore is fixed?
You want a character with good base get ,get AA😂 😭
Dore needs AA to compete with E3 Vortice
Such is the world we live in
Bro's training arc was a war 😭
I feel somewhat vindicated
A long and arduous battle
For doresain to get what he should have in the first place

signature wheel merchant 😔
imagine needing your own wheel
Dies merchant
he can charge aliemus pretty fast in ghoul d tides!111!!
-# except every ghoul and their mother loves stacking DR
The 20% current HP dmg to all enemies is a robbery btw
The fact it is only on AA
Normal kit should at least have 10%
nah his base rouse should have 20%
Wait is dore still not fixed? 
Thank you so much for such a thoughtful breakdown of Doresain's 💩 design. It's clear you care deeply about our 💩 king. And honestly, we really love him being bad. We love seeing the the people who foolishly pulled for him struggle.
Our design team will continuously laugh
at the people who stubbornly still decide to play him and look for new opportunities and fights to completely nullify his already lacking kit.
We have always practiced this and believe his strength and role should be looking cool
and sounding cool and give other awakeners the opportunity to step onto the stage to actually do damage.
Doresain
is currently not included in the project team's adjustment plan, but we will continue to observe your struggles and laugh.
We truly appreciate players who take the time to send us such detailed feedback.
Thank you for being such a dedicated advocate for him!
aged like fine wine

Before the update rolls
Reminder that hes still useless unless aa
The 50% overkill damage spread is simply a nice bonus against mobs for better clear
Aa doresain playstyle drastically changes as it becomes centered on the 100% to abuse mobs
his AA still do 20% hp dmg so it help his initial nukes and make him struggle a bit less vs boss fights lmao
Funniest thing is that even these buffs won't fix him
... figured

