#Anti-Wobbuffet Association
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i sent you one
Very meh spawns today, I apologise 
@fair rune i getchu fam 
The lapis experience 
Me too, but on GG.
I guess I send Iggly?
Yeah send iggy
yeah
Feels very outclassed by Raltz at this point, but I think a lot of people can't easily farm Raltz.
Yeah, if you don't have Lapis yet after this week it'll be hard
yeah
iggly and sylv still remain viable for newbies
240 sleep styles can be a big ask
sent
6843-2116-0660
It’s an alt, camping lapis. Ign is whitsmiltank
Can anyone help me understand why I get kicked from people’s friend list? 4 people have removed me the last 3 days - and these are my last 6 days of candy sent:
maybe because of the altaria, there is a mankey on it, idk 
They might be cycling friend list for friendship level rewards
Otherwise your candies sent are amazing except Mankey over Altaria
hmm interesting. i guess i just thought altaria would be good as one of the only dragon types? but mankey is noted for the future, thanks!
i like altaria but altaria's berries arent favored on lapis while mankey's are
I feel like some ppl don't know that yet so that's why im saying it lol
I think most of my friends are from here…
Possibly @shy lagoon
Had a spot free up (likely someone farming friend rewards, I know one was gonna go at least).
Not unlocked lapis, in case that's important to anyone
9403-3968-7180
2687-5960-4175 looking for 2 new friends. Lv 50 and doing 7-10 sleep sessions a week
I have lapis for 3rd week now.
@mellow ether u stop the game ?
Huh he still hasn't slept
He did say yesterday that he would start sending candy again but I guess not
^
Or maybe he's in a sleep session right now
Finally did a cleanse
Got space for 7
7877-0094-5145
My recent credentials, currently research rank 49
1141-1493-5203
one slot left.
9133-8428-8308
1 spots left! R46 with 207 days logged in
oops, I may have been too quick on the trigger. feel free to add again if you've got space
Just sent you a request ☺️
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6993-8596-4370
Playing daily since day 1, rank 50
Useful candies only please!
did my research not send yet?
hmm i even took a nap
hopefully next reset u will get the dratini pic lol
no prob it’s my bad
readded 
Still has this as your latest pic for me
Which looks like a Sunday sleep
I think mine just updated like 15 minutes ago as well
weird
Good news is I’ve popped a bulba incense tonight, so guaranteed no meh candy in the morning
gl with your other spawns though brother 
Thank u🤝
yeah my last research from you was 6 days ago, may wanna take it up with SB
deleted a few people due to inactivity of 7+ days. Active Daily since day 1. Pls add me and stay...
alt needs 2 friends 3361-8892-9912
If you still have space, I just sent a request!
Hi folks. My first post here and I got 4 spots.
5151-8574-4311
I’m Warfeint in-game and if we’re research buddies I want to let you know I am working 15 hours starting at noon today and might miss the 4am cut off tonight. I will try to nap but I have to use my phone for work.
has the within 3 days thing been fixed yet>
saved by stufful wtf is this
thats what every day looks like for me, save the stufful
ive been slumbering the past few days because im missing so many of the 3* styles but the game keeps giving me the ones ive already got over and over again
it is a bit silly
this is the worst example yet tho
average cyan beach slumbering
anyone have KP11 as a friend? seems dead to me
@regal forum ?
alt firend code 3361-8892-9912
Pain :c
BTW uhh so hows everyone dooooing :3?
nah same bro. after 6 conecutive sleep sessions of about 40 encounters, i finally got found a single ralts 
oh damn, im guessing that was with the incense too?
agony
;;
no i had a stufful at the start of the week cuz of an incense, only just got a natural-occuring ralts
damn that's really unlucky
also im starting to think it was a targeted attack /s
game saw how close i was to the pot upgrade and decided to be evil
i feel that 
happened on the last milestone for me too. sat there for over a week iirc
damn, how many styles you at now?
280
nearly there but i definitely wont get it before valentires 
betting since im going back to gg its not happening until after the event either 
if you're on lapis this week then you've still got a chance
dozing has a lot of new styles because they added bayleef and meganium too
but im hunting ralts, so its snoozing hell for me 
yeah, i totally wont get 7 sudowoodos and a wynaut knocking at my door 
don't forget the riolu
true 
just resetting the friendship level optimal plays lads

yeah gotta get those linking cords again
omg that reminds me
the linking cords screwed me over so bad
i finally got a hungry slowbro that had tails at 30
but i was like 100ish candies off
so i cash in 30 of my linking cords
and get 0 slowpoke candy
ill probably get enough during the valentines event but still got insanely unlucky
goddamn 
the one time i want slowpoke candy
i think most of it went into onix candy
and i haven't even seen one yet
so i guess when i finally catch an onix ill start off with like 150 candy lmao
im still missing like 38 hahahahaa
i should.. taupe
i am missing like .. onix.. and like any evolutions of many taupe mons
resetting at FL1 meta
||2556-8702-8404||
friend list full, thank you
one spot open after deleting a Togepi + Sudowoodo candy sender
@meager bloom dis you?
1291-4129-0739
1 spot left after removing an inactive
Currently looking for ppl who can send these candies unless RNG hell LUL 
||Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Stufful, Dratini, Ralts, Squirtle, Bulbasaur, Croagunk, Growlithe, Onix, Absol, Pinsir, Delibird||
Anyone know who this is?
boot em :3c
Full, thanks!
like about 50% snoozing and dozing is the least portion yet i get dozing xc eugh
I got a couple lvl 5 friends, is it better to boot them for the ticket rewards of new friends or to keep them for the high 2 candie chance?
2519-0225-7195
either way, I deleted some people that had send bad candies, I got 4 open spots.
I've send a request
I've send a request
I've send a request
Do you delete friends that play within 3 days
no, because I know it sometimes messes the 3 days up
I do delete them if it says 6 or 7 days
keep all level 5's
if you're asking that question not sure i wanna add 
and they were lovers
fair enough, I'll only delete bad candies then if they have 3 strikes
yeye, it's a huge difference
im surprised all 50 people in my friendslist have been consistent daily sleepers without any miss for about a month
One spot open, 9882-7626-1348
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i think it's been calced that you actually lose on a bunch of candies that way
@halcyon rover pinging you too for this
#datamine-discussion message
coincidentally I calculated this literally today
suppose there are two options
option 1: keeping 50 friends at level 5 forever
option 2: resetting all 50 friends after reaching level 1
option 1 gives more candies overall, because the chance to get 2 candies at friendship level 5 is quite high, but of course you risk getting candies that you don't want. so it is a bit of a trade off
#1174645892784082955 message i made some graphs here but it was done very quickly without much effort
yeah, even though, supposedly if you keep friends to level 5 they'll send you good candy
yeah if you keep friends at lv5, you just gotta make sure they're gonna send good candies and are in it for the long run
😒😒😒😒😒
I send a request
yeah that's what i figured, i was joking since i dont want that to happen actually and my spawns were making me dangerously close to friends 

average lapis slumbering
@ornate night are u still playing?
alright couple more spots open
3311-5729-1355
5183-4699-2134 one spot
Stopped for a bit because technical issues, should be sorted now
Which candy, select button decided to destroy me
oh man i feel ya
if this is what event spawns are like im not looking forward to hunting ralts in the upcoming weeks
my partner has the worst snoozing of his life this morning
i don't remember the specifics but it was made up of entirely slowpokes, wobbuffets, jigglypuffs and pikachu
he looked over at me and was like "tf am i supposed to catch here" lmao
tell me about it 
pretty much that but with 8 spawns
tell him im sorry for his loss and i understand his pain 
will do 🫡
also i summoned balanced sleep by talking about it yesterday
it was actually decent too
i did catch a ralts this morning... and it was msc down 
got my 290th style (espeon)
blender time
one of the stuffies went full tho 😡
sounds about right 
not too fussed about it though, ive got 2 pretty good ones
one of them being crazy good when the level cap is increased
Sorry I dipped right after I dropped that code, I got your req 
Still looking for one
1618-5175-4618
2 open slots due to 2 bonsly senders 🫡
reasons i no longer nap xc
Current priority for the new mons is ralts > stufful > dratini right, or are stufful and dratini equal?
imo, dratini > ralts/stufful but i hvae no clue
lets have a poll
a lot of ppl can't really use ralts and dratini candies are just gonna be such a bottleneck long term
saved by eevee 
All 3 are equally good but it doesn’t matter unless you get balanced
pretty much how i feel about it
If anything stufful least valuable because its the least candy hungry one
if you do get balanced and somehow get multiple of them well... i'd say dratini>ralts>stufful
not like multiple of any of them will show up for me 
stufful and dratini are pretty much helpful to everyone though
ralts isnt
so hard for me to strongly say that ralts > stufful
just look at yourselves pondering what event candy to send
meanwhile, I only just got my first ralts spawn yesterday 
i've been pondering whether to send pikachu or clefairy candies the past week tbh 
damn
my luck took a massive dunk this week, tho last week i had event candies because of all the incenses they gave us
I'm holding on to the incenses in case SB slaps us with a sudo/wobbu event week
they said that about dream magnet and look where those mons are
now that gallade is out lucario has been kicked out of the bfs fighting skill mon niche too 
at least the gulpin line still has a poison island to look forward to, I guess
if only they'd fix lucario
what's everyones stance on ditto candy
i sent it today because i got the dragonite sleep and though it was cute but not sure if people like the candy
Hmm
used to hold out on him now i think is like, low c tier.
not the charmander tail in the corner 
damn yeah that's fair
i don't mind the candies because to our knowledge it will be the best slowpoke tail farmer once the level cap increases
but ill keep it in mind not to send 🫡
i'd love to have a ditto dragonite sleep for me though ive been in snoozing hell for days at least give me something cute to look at 
Is wynaut not cute?
yeah dude that sleep did not look good today
i want to punch that dongly bit on its head like a sandbag
i was aiming for dozing but our cat slept right next to the phones so ended up with snoozing lmao
I think that might be one of their priorities tbh
post-buff magnet being still bad, along with magnet mons being outclassed by other same berry skill mons (gallade)
not getting another buff would be so sad
Hate speech 
it's ruining the view on lapis lakeside
true
though I imagine approaching a wynaut/wobbu irl would be terrifying considering shadow tag
war criminal ability
yeah i would never actually punch a wynaut because they specifically are designed to hit back twice the power of whatever hit it 
they seem to only buff things the least possible amount so that they remain unusable
one day energizing cheer will get a buff
we can only dream
one day 
literally they dropped an insignificant boost onto them and went cry about it
still don't know why they 'buffed' extra helpful by a single help. that's like 1 berry if it procs on itself
just evolved a bfs leafeon 
and then they lured us into going into dream shard debt and no way to fix it 😔
they want us to have a team of skill lv 6 swalots i guess
At least I have a bfs shiny I guess
Gulpin is currently the best dream shard mon so there's that I guess
well it's debatable
lucario procs slightly more on average but swalot has the better version of the skill
wait it does?
why did they do lucario so dirty
honestly its kinda funny
i'm scared they're gonna add vulpix but with dsm..
Weird how they did such a favored mon dirty
Pikachu/eevee got their spots
Then lucario gets a slap in the back of the head
They misjudged terribly and really thought dream shard magnet (and dream shard bonus) were good
They didn't take into account that we got about 100-200k dream shards free from easy achievements like "feed berries"
at least gen 7 starters seem to be berry mons, they can't fuck them up too badly right 
they balanced those achievements so poorly too
like we just immediately get 63k shards from 1 achievement and the rest take years to complete
huh??
Just change the berry one, I guess?
To something like "catch 10 research exp bonus mons"
they should expand the berry one
why even keep count after if we don't get shards 
oh yeah every week once I hit all the achievements except the befriend 10 moms I just hoard ingredients for next week
*10 mons ffs
yeah the 10 mons one is not worth it
It's still decent filler for popcorn if you don't have a good Toxicroak
I'm using one for valentine till my oily frog is ready
lol thats me. thanks for deleting me after making one mistake out of 90 sessions
if you want someone that sends good candies 95% of the time (mainly due to hell sessions) and sleeps twice a day, 3361-8892-9912
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9797-4474-9416 got 1 spot
If this person is from here I will give a bit of time to justify this otherwise this is absolutely a Yeet
ive seen a tuna in here i think
@latent sierra that's u ? 
Sent friend request 
At the very least vigoroth is a great candy
You're far more lenient than me. Wobbuffet Atop-Belly on a Sunday is an instant kick for me.
Vegito candy
Is this the ~generally accepted tier list for candies here?
1 space after Wobbuffet sender today lol
Code 👇
#1146199721665364149 message
Yeah, it is a Tier 5 friend, so I thought I'd give time for comment.
2150-2198-4475 done cleanup of inactive, 2 spots left, rank 50 play everyday since launch, good candies
4981-5689-6403 Cleaned out a few inactives, (1 spot left open!), currently going on a long Lapis arc
8908-3160-6916
partners account, good candy sender, cool guy :)
5672-4232-8890
Made a ton of room, been playing since release and sent almost only ralts and dratini last week 😜
Yeah, sorry about that, usually I try to pick a good 1 star sleep for the photo but completly forgot to change it that morning. Also atop-Belly wobbuffet was terrible rng lol. Luckily just lost 4 friends. I won't make this mistake again, I promise
6981-2687-4916
Felt graveler was the best to send this morning
1115-9885-5997
Level 50, 212 days logged in, 9 spots cleared! Plz add for good candies 😉
I would personally unironically want magnemite the most but yeah objectively speaking graveler was the correct decision
6901-2575-9500
did we upset the same god
You got a shiny so clearly god has a favourite
except that I dont care about shinies even a little so I just got slightly more geodude candy
when god gives its to the people who don't care 
Oh yeah i got this like yesterday i think i sent dratini
nice cheeto lmao
saved by Bulbasaur 
Is this one here? 
not the shiny woodo 
I accidentally reset my sleep tracking partway through the night and had two sessions to review when I woke up. But for one of them, it didn't let me decide what to send? And it sent Gulpin 🤦🏻.
if it's two sessions to review it will result in auto review iirc
It also used the bonus biscuit on Gulpin, rather than, uh, literally anything else. I would've probably gone with Geodude, but all three ing mons are good.
At least I got candy…
Larvitar is there…
2 stars sleep style, thats prolly someone Who doesnt change the pokemon picture 🤷🏻♂️
Send you a request
but just if they dont accept heres my id 2670 6159 6089
I send you a request
7725-4951-4511
One spot open
do people in here consider jiggly candies a strike? i already didnt like it 4months ago, but i didnt say anything cause i know people wanted it. but i sure as heck consider it very negatively right now
definitely dont consider it a strike. some people are still far away from lapis, so they only have two options for an e4e mon, and wiggly is more f2p friendly. while i definitely dont rate it as high as before it's still not strike worthy
mmmkay, ill stay calm about it for a little more. thanks
sent
6993-8596-4370
Playing daily since day 1, rank 50
Useful candies only please!
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I got crap today sorry sent a maneky
i miss all the new mon candy that people were sending for the last 2 weeks🥲
Yeah, now it'll be a struggle getting their candy unless you actually go to Lapis
people will probably be back at lapis next week
good sleep day next week so people may want the boosted snorlax power there
mankey isn't as bad now that we have lapis
Probably not unless they can reach high enough for the fully evolved mons
Not really that many rare single stage mons there
lots of exclusive 3*s tho
pichu, doduo family, bulba family, chikorita family just to name a few
for real though the first time i saw the pichu 3 star on lapis i made monkey noises in excitement 
Sent
1108-3705-3178
2 slots available if anyone interested 
1734-9019-4264
I have 1 space 
someone else took it, but they haven't sent sleep research yet today...will add you if they don't and you still have room! 🤙
Just sent you a request 🙂
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8077-7330-4860
rank 48 room for 1 , on tundra atm back to lakeside after event
accepted sunny
full
2 slots open due to inactive people, rank 50
Please send good candy, ty
4489-3144-6946
Ping me if you add me please! 
which would you guys prefer, absol or gastly candy?
absol since it's rarer
sick
my partner has an absol photo but it's got a gastly next to it so i thought maybe people would get mad if he sent the absol instead of the gastly lmao
gengar is good and all but especially with this current event going on absol candy takes higher priority
Added, if you’re still open
Added back!
2861-8189-4170
one slot open 
4889-2883-2164
Just removed a togepi sender
Edit: full thx
Wow I managed to bump my tracker 4 times while I slept. So I had 3 sleep sessions rather than 1, and the middle one was too short to count. At least this time the random biscuit and photo were Pinsir.
This hotel bed might be too small for me to use the PGP+ this week. I think I've gotten some interference every night but one so far? My mons really don't have enough energy.
Preference?
: Bulba
: Larva
: Ditto
Bulba
@modern river u still play?
I'll go Larva, since 1 more point and it takes longer to level 
I'm not them (obviously), but whilst the iliven account also says 3 days for me, nevili says within 1 day if that helps
ah that's weird
but i think it's happened to me before
so i'll give them some time
removed some inactives, rank 48
3233-2794-4806
yep still playing, will rmb to hit sleep tonight lol
@gloomy furnace 
Got it today at least
Was running late today…
7926-8068-1564
Hello I am once again asking for social support, 2 friend slots are open
References are available upon request
wondering the same if anyone knows. prob just gonna delete soon
when I unironically want gulpin candy more than jiggly
Sent swablu
Welp someone removed me unfortunately
7991-7450-6463
1 spot open
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Sent you a request
5197-2979-3079 just kicked some wobbuffet candy givers, I have played since release and hope to get some new friends:)
6993-8596-4370
Playing daily since day 1, rank 50
Useful candies only please!
Snoozing tundra is hell with jigglypuff no longer being as useful
Would ppl prefer jiggly over swablu?
I would still take jiggly over swablu
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Good to know
Yo I've not even seen an absol yet 
relatable
I saw one absol! It was enough for me to give it just enough biscuits so that it would have one tick left.
In 6 months when I see my next I'll be psyched
Just got wobuffet/wyanut/swalot
swablu
x5000
jiggly candy is useless
See that’s what I thought! And then someone removed me because of it!
Well my reasoning is, I'm still trying to get a useable E4E mon (haven't unlocked lapis yet, so I'm down to jiggly or Eevee).
But I don't see myself ever using swablu when snover and deli are better for eggs (I think)
theres a lot of people who are behind the curve
swablu will probably be usable when dragon island
But no one knows when that'll be
People are using dragonite now, so dragon berry is unlocked for GG, making altaria useful unless you have a team of bfs dnites
I'll go with the dragonites haha
its not really practical to run more than one dragonite
Agreed
Also altaria is fluffy
For an actual point, even if wiggly is more useful, jiggly candy is so easy to come by getting more from friends is kinda unnecessary while swablu candy is fairly rare
1340 jiggly candies 😂
jesus 
wow and i thought having 900 jiggly candies was bad
Sent
accepted, thanks 🙂
Soooo I somehow got slumbering for my nap and got these spawns
I personally think mag is the best candy to send but I know a lot of people don't like it so would swablu be better
nothing wrong with metapod either imo
i have 500 jiggly candies and 800 eevee candies
which isnt that special but i have level 50 wiggly and vaporeon
so i really have no use for them at all
unless i made another eevee
Man I am juggling glaceon/flareon/espeon and I still wanna make a vaporeon/slyveon. I'll never get enough eevee candies
i want more eeveelutions but all my eevees fucking suck bro 
wish i had 800 eevee candies, at least eevee has the potential to be many different things🥲
not like i have a single good eevee tho
same
i have so many main skill seeds and nothing to use them on
i found a bfs eevee with a soh nature and nothing else to its name and made it a level 39 leafeon because fuck it we ball
I’ve got three spots open 😁 3311-5729-1355
Leafeon is always the right decision
Get it to 50
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thats a strange place to be in
i never have enough
If I payed for the Premium Pass, I'd also have more than I need I guess 🤔
whoever has the ign of lumeepi you better start explaining before you get yeeted why'd you send a persian
same here but thats because the first couple I got I used on a sudo b4 i knew what i was doing 
using a skill seed on a sudo would haunt me forever (I used mine on my butterfree)
ooof
dude better change his name, he is not the sleeper !!
8862-4357-2204
2 spots available
rr 50, daily sleeper, good candies only except if shiny :)
Sorry i got crap today game didnt track well.
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Posting to scare the nerds 
I was too scared to actually made it my photo ingame people would remove me before looking
yeah if you sent this sudo pic ppl would definitely hate you and delete you for not sending this beautiful wynaut next to it 
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@stray ingot Umm...
Lol
still loooking
fellas im back on lapis with no gct, wish me luck while i sift through snoozing hell for ralts 
Same
We're in this together 
Heck I'm not even going to do snoozing for Monday sleep since I don't want to risk giving bad candy lol
honestly good point
i'll do dozing for better spawns for the first two days probably
I shall be going to lapis also with no GCT
Requested 🫡
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Need that dratini and stufful candy expeditiously
4569-7349-7177
Did a sweep of friends who are inactive and sends obviously bad, meta Pokémon (ie, slowpoke, wobbufet). Very active here
same, i fear for the spawn rates if the lapis event was 'boosted' 
I saw two Ralts all of last week, and one was with incense. Although, it was a global pool regardless of sleep type, so the spawn pool was diluted.
was very tempted to send this bc it's like the second hardest in greengrass but i didn't feel like losing half my friends list lmao
ill happily take the 14k dream shards from one picture tho
is slumbering on snowdrop hell?
Spheal line is on Snowdrop Slumbering, so no
fair enough
its like 50/50 with good and bad stuff
youve got geodude, spheal line and snover line on one end and then wynaut togepi riolu on the other
except a little more in favour of the bad stuff
Oopsie 😅
2556-8702-8404
need 1 friend after deleting an inactive for 6 days guy
I'm camping in Lapis and will continue staying here until I get a great Dragonite, so it'll be a while before I leave
Saw this tonight wanted to share in case it’s helpful 🙂 Also of course it’s always different from a person to another haha. Note that I didn’t make this it’s been shared online.
Ngl who tf wouldn’t put gastly geodude snover magnemite higher when they’re the best for what they offer
Screams lapis focused which is great but it’s not everything
Like gastly and geodude over mankey everyday
why is toto not in top tier
i guess this person just never goes to cyan
i actually saw this on reddit and there were so many people arguing that squirtle should be in good enough or very good
arguably i'd still rate squirtle as top tier
im guessing toto is in very good just because you're not gonna use him in the other areas besides cyan anyway
i think you can argue both ways tbh
i kinda wanna make a list to see how it compares to this one
especially if you use blastoise a lot and you mainly get him up via sleep exp, since its splashable for all 3 types of dishes
you technically 'don't really need the candy'
but its still gonna be very useful or needed if you want to raise a blastoise with double cacao for lv 60+
i don't even have one with double cacao yet 💀
personally i'm good on eevee candy but i guess a lot of people still want some
pretty much my exact response to the previous statement yeah
yeah i think a lot of people are done with eevee but for a lot of people it's still a really good mon
glaceon are kinda just as good as each other in their own ways in terms of pot mons
glac has a preferred berry and a slightly higher base skill proc % and mag gets the extra skill level and is barely faster
yea i just want the pfp tbh
lol
i alrd have a Glaceon anyway with ||BFS+HB lmao||
mines got berry finding and helping speed m with neutral nature because that was when i was desperate for a half decent snowdrop mon lmao
ye im using BFS Umbreon + that Glaceon myself in snowdrop lol
Umbreon had msc down nature anyway so it was pretty much a perfect candidate
i got no biscuits to invest in houndoom these days lol
i rather just invest it on shuppet or smth in case carmine volcano or some future location has ghost berry as favourites
30 biscuits per month (not including free biscuits given via gifts etc) is not that much tbh 
Totally agree, gastly and geodude are very good mons 💪🏼 love to receive candies from them
I kinda like Squirtle where it is but I would add Toto in the everyone wants haha love me some nice cyan mons ! I often get those candies at the green grass for some reason too so very helpful 🔥
Have you arranged inside the tiers too?
nah just in dex order
Hmm, thats fine then
Ok was boutta say swablu over heracross and slowpoke
Magnemite and kanga arguably up while monkey and doduo down
Croagunk over Absol and Snover
Weird
Why don’t people like snover and mime
I desparately need a good snover
Like yes delibird exists
But what about non dessert weeks
Unless u have 10 and 30 egg deli
yeah probably more bias than i thought actually,
thought process for that is the croagunk is one of if not the current best oil mon where oil is used in a lot of good dishes rn (popcorn, greengrass salad)
absol doesnt really get good until it gets mushrooms because apples arent that good atm and blastoise does a better job than him imo because milk combos much better with cacao
snover just gets outclassed by deli as an egg mon and there are better tomato mons if you need them
I do see why croagunk is in a high tier
Though arguably absol and snover should be in the same tier
Yeah, well I can see that
Hmm
Cuz if you don’t have absol you need to build 2 blastoise
double oil ditto is the only other oil option but is difficult because its a rare mon so its hard to build up
Unless you get very lucky on finding an awesome delibird
and youd probably prefer it having leeks and tails over double oil
yeah i agree with mag and kang but not sure about doduo
dodrio is a lot faster and has a much better main skill while feraligatr has more powerful berry
I really don't see how squirtle shouldn't be top tier
I have a blastoise that was one of my first mons and he's one of the most reliable helpers I have
same here
I had the same! Felt sad picking 1* chiko for the pic
don't feel sad
50 other people will feel happier than you are sad
thats a huge net happiness increase

yeah its just like that sometimes, doesnt stop us from showing them here tho
so close to Snoozing hell, saved by the Eevee (and the Dratini incense of course)
It’s days like these I need to remind myself these people send me larvitar and cyndaquil often and I love them for that
Side note might go taupe next week since I keep getting snoozing in a rare scenario
Watch me fall back into dozing
finally found an open opportunity to add you 
creator here, i commented a very short summary for reasoning of the mons' placement in the tiers
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSleep/comments/1asfmjh/comment/kr2xpqm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Honestly the gengar geodude diglett note is fair if ur whaling, but I think it’s safe to say most players aren’t getting the 200 daily ingredients for the top tier dishes solely from their mons
That being said, gastly diglett have their roles, especially diglett with leeks
Gastly is outclassed by dratini, but many people are in the middle of building gengars they have already found the past months
So candy drought for sent candies on that doesn’t make much sense
yup i agree with you, however most people would still be aiming for the higher-level recipes hence i placed them right in the middle
If we were going by that game, magnemite outclasses eevee
Since lapis doesn’t favorite glaceon or flareon
most gengars that people have are herb/shroom hence ^ (dragonite double or triple herb)
And anyoen building dratinis that outclass gastlies will likely be lapis focused
since people are already building flareon for taupe and glaceon for SDT, they would just use it for lapis instead of magnezone, thats my opinion of course.
So saying magnemite is low goes against your reasoning here since the people aiming high will be on lapis
So then why doesn’t that apply for built gengars
herb/shroom gengars doesnt provide enough herbs for inferno curry
Many have herb herb
It was the herb mon
Just like flareon and glaceon were focused pot mons
Actually to have enough daily herbs for inferno you still need multiple herb mons
you're right its on par if its herb/herb
Nah dragonite outclasses
I’m just saying there’s a disconnect
Between tiering gastly low because it’s outclassed while tiering eevee higher than the magnemite that outclasses it
why does magnemite outclass flareon/glaceon?
Because it’s the better potmon that was only unfavored under glaceon because snowdrop was the highest. Now that lapis is the highest, the best “min-max” strategy that your guide supports would be using magnezone
Since none of the potmons have favored berries at the highest level minmaxers are focused on
And every other eeveelution gets outclassed, besides arguably vaporeon, in what it does for min-maxers
Don’t get me wrong I love the eeveelutions and can’t wait for a good glaceon
But the whole eevee high magnemite low gastly low trio of decisions seems to contradict the whole “min-max” point of ur list imo
Thank you for sending the link with all the details for all the categories 💕
It’s a really great list otherwise
it's not just going by lapis, it takes every island into account as well, for magnezone it's just "i already have flareon or glaceon why would i build another magnezone that gives roughly the same amount of strength on lapis"
of course when another island gets released this whole list will change again
If people already have those built, eevee is ranked top for what reason?
I could see it being very good
But it gets outclassed in everything
eevee can be used for sylveon, flareon, glaceon, vaporeon, maybe even espeon if people really like it. and assuming we're building them to lv50, each of it takes around 1k+ candies hence the tier
very good reasoning though, i will take it into consideration with the next patch
Sylv<garde, flare/glace<mag, esp/lead<meganium, vap I like idk what the replacement would be
Just don’t see any lapis minmaxer using eevee besides vaporeon
And a glaceon if they don’t have a magnezone candidate
So like 2k candies most people already got by now
yea that's true, I'm probably gonna bump it down to Very Good the next time
Slaking over vaporeon
Performs better everywhere except Cyan
That’s what I was thinking but some may prefer skill specialist for the proc % increases
Not sure if raenon yet calculates that
Slaking has the same proc rate as a skill specialist
I mean the december update
Where each no-proc increases the next proc’s chance
For skill specialists
It should be in #game-news
I was surprised it wasn’t given much attention by players
@steel cloud
I was wondering if there was actual research on it
Hard to tell if it really is that relevant
slaking is a little below vaporeon even without that in triggers but yeah it probably procs enough that it doesnt matter a whole ton. feels like it helps more to make sure you dont go completely dry in e4e which is hardest to proc
slaking is better at berries and regular ingredinets though
so decent enough argument for it potentially being better. hard to really quantify the trade-off though when vaporeon is getting that pity boost
the reason I was so sure of going with vaporeon over slaking though had nothing to do with that.
really i tried looking for slakoth and found only a few, and they werent as good as my eevee. eevees are way easier to farm and accessibility does need to be a consideration.
I also like vaporeron way more as a design but I did think slaking was legit better
I would like to apologise to anyone who is currently in the friend list of my ratata account
This is not intentional I simply made the mistake of dozing napping
hello fren wasn't there any better mon today? @gentle garnet
gotchu!
Is even togepi out of the list? Many people like metronome
The alternatives were mankey croagunk and psyduk if you wanna know
some ppl might like it but i don't. mankey or croagunk would be better i guess
Well feel free to remove me
ok fren sry that i complained
7490-6152-9477 have a spot open for someone after removing a sunday swalot sender, preferably someone with lapis unlocked
sent!
Updates here I’m on Taupe for both my accounts this week so if ever a 💩 candies is sent by me, trust me it won’t be intentional haha 😜
insomnia is a bi*ch
that person using a ditto is allready enough
Already enough for what?
to boot
pfft
but im joking
yesterday i got my first lapis lakeside insence from quests :3
yay
today i used it u_u
gave me them silly raltss
Meh, if they wouldn't have responded or weren't in the server, I'd have kicked. But neither was the case. They simply made a mistake, and historically they've sent mostly good candies. So I'm willing to cut them some slack this time.
naww thats fair :3 !
ah sorry dude i had no idea, i can add you back if you'd like?
also now knowing that, the name is like 10x funnier lmao
thats not me
ohhhh
im sheep in sleep
oopsy daisies
8579-8443-4172 well i guess a spot opened up
Got 2 squirtles from Monday sleep 
Now I'll be going back into snoozing hell today so apologies in advance if my spawns are ass lol
glad i used my dratini incense
@empty summit 
2 wobbuffet and a sudowoddo. Thats the best one already 😅
Based choice of riolu over the rest
ah understandable
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@gentle garnet was the best mon you had riolu?
Wtf, this was a mistake, sorry
Dang... two days in a row i get called out... this time i didn't mean it
all good bro 
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Sent a request, still replacing some very bad friends I’ve had
Accepted
what is everyone's stance on slowpoke candy here? worth to send cus lvl 30 tail unlock or nah? didnt get much better this time
I bet most people here have unlocked slowpoke tails
Sadge
yeah i would say no to slowpoke candy bc we all have tails unlocked already, and anyone who doesn't is gonna get enough candy naturally via snoozing hell anyways
gunk, personally
Balanced sleep gave me complete garbage, was gonna send slowpoke candy but based on the messages above, guess not? What should I send out of these
God we’re all getting rough spawns this week 
Ekans would be the least painfull here ig
saved by squirtle 
I judge early week candy much less compared to EOW and I think most rational people are the same
at least I hope lol
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Added!
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One more spot left
Add me please!
Request sent.
@brittle orbit, @empty relic, @mental wing I'm sorry friend list is full now 😦
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Need two!
How many times do you guys put up with shit candy before you remove someone?
Cause, I have a really good friend list of lvl5 friends that don’t miss a day, but i’m getting croagunk and swalot
wasnt there some talk about croagunk being semi nowadays (someone else has to fill in why tho bc i still hate it)
one of if not the best oil mon where oil is one of the ingredients in a couple of really good dishes (explosion popcorn, greengrass salad)
No worries
3 times cause everyone has bad luck once in a while
3 times, but im more partial to giving more chances to people in here
might also be less tolerant if its later in the week and its almost obvious that they let the game pick the mon for them, or if the shit mon has a good mon in the picture in it
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3 strikes and you're out.
Bad Candy = 1 strike
Bad Candy on a Sunday = 2 strikes
Bad Candy Atop Belly Sleep = Instant Kick
That's how I generally do it. But I also consider a number of other factors. Like how reliable you are and such. Mistakes can happen and sometimes you just get screwed on your spawns. I tend to be more lenient on people in here as well.
Why insta kick for atop belly sleep? Does that mean they’re just leaving the default
i think it picks the highest star by default but could be completely wrong
Correct. It proves that you don't select the photos to send the best candy you can. The game will automatically select Atop Belly Sleep, and if you can't be bothered to take a moment to switch photos to avoid sending bad candy, then I don't want you on my friend list.
Like I said, mistakes can happen and sometimes you get screwed on your spawns, but most times, neither of those are the case with Atop Belly.
there are cases where the game auto selects the atop belly tho
Yes, but you have the chance to switch photos after that.
I mean there are scenarios where you dont get to pick
I dont know the specifics, its never happened to me but Ive seen it a few times while following this topic
It would have to be one of those auto-sessions or whatever they're called where you don't get to pick the photo or what biscuits are fed to what pokemon. It completes the research for you. But I think that only happens in rare cases. Like before a maintenance session or something.
Regardless, it's quite unlikely to be the case. But I do consider other factors when deciding whether to give a strike and/or kick someone.
missing days is way worse than an occasional "bad candy"
unles you're hitting 50 every day
Is ratata the best tp send from this lineup?
Sure
ngl id go poke but there's definitely some bias there
So anybody has a real candies that friends want to receive tier list that most people agree with here?
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@boreal oasis you could probably use this I guess
Thanks I saw that but there's a lot of people who aren't agreeing
made this a while ago, no particular order within the tiers
i'll move magnemite up later
Damn, you are rating new mons so low
Sad
Rattata or Jigglypuff?
Rattata gets favored berry on Snowdrop and can be a way to get apples. Jigglypuff is an early game/f2p cleric.
Rattata is outclassed by Pikachu though for apple production. (And also by the ingredient mons that get it, but those are all rare spawns and don't get apples until 30.)
Think I'll go Jigglypuff.
Also, is Garlik still playing?
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the problem is that people who auto send candy are very likely to give you 4 bad atop belly candy in a row
because those atop belly spawns are more common than the good atop belly ones
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Pecan I got a skowpoke candy from you this morning 
i thought ppl wanted slowpoke 😭😭
i guess not big rip 🥲 didn’t it used to be good to get candy to unlock slowpoke tail quickly
ig everyone has slowpoke tail now mb i didn’t realize 
I play everyday since day 1, 3 spots left, I'm on Lapis now! I'm trying to send rare candies everyday
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Not new players so I'm sure they still appreciate em
Added you!
My slowpoke is stuck too lol
8571-7767-6447 Lv42, play daily and have 20 slots open.
2 days in a row of cyan slumbering hell 😭😭😭
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The seal?
aside from spheal
he's a good boy
the saviour of my friends list
but 8 bonsly / sudo in 2 days is not great
at least i am getting new styles tho, which is why im targeting slumbering, 2 in 2 days is not bad at all
4981-5689-6403 2 spots open, 1 unadded for a Slowpoke hell day and 1 afk
FULL thank you!
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@reef condor @dusty snow sent you guys requests
accepted 🙂
slowpoke is only that low bc most people have tails unlocked yeah. but its not a crime to send it if everything else sucks bc some people still might need it
going to move magne and croagunk up probably
Accepted
if you're gonna update it you should probably order within tiers to avoid confusion, at least between mon of the same sleep type (dozing/snoozing/slumbering) =p
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but that requires eeeffooooort

i'll do it, but im not sure how useful that would be
bruh

revamped again, this time sorted into sleep styles, starting with dozing on the left and slumbering to the right (not sure how that helps but whattever lmao)
I was probably unclear about what I said sorry =p I meant to order them from best to worst within tier, at least between same sleep type pokemon since we rarely get multiple sleep styles pokemon, like for example in s tier it would be something like dozing : dratini>chikorita>pinsir>delibird snoozing: ralts>cyndaquil>charmander slumbering: stufful>totodile>spheal>larvitar>squirtle
thx for the tierlist still !
idk if that s a better explanation LOL
oh god no 
i've mentioned this before but im not so much of a turbo nerd to spend time to do that 
the sleep type thing was meant to be a simpler way to order within tier =p
besides, this is just a candy tier list, it's meant to be just a simple guide
yup ofc, was just thinking some ppl just getting the tierlist without anymore info could get confused and think you already ordered mons =p
when presenting it i've almost always prefaced it with the fact that it's not in a particular order within tiers
guess i'll just be clear every time 
but cheers for the suggestion :)
yeah I know you did, but I also saw some ppl share it, I mean other ppl than you
and just sharing the tierlist^^
ahhh right lmao
most ppl will prolly be smart and use your tierlist properly tho, it's already great to have some guidelines
there 
nice 
my boy gunk in C tier really be thriving 
Almost out of principal tho I feel Wobb should have his own F tier, throw in Sudo and Gulp too for the OG garbage mons
Gunk is actually pretty decent for popcorn
SleepAPI.net ranks Toxicroak in A tier for curry week with current caps (level 50, pot size 57).
I expect we'll eventually get something better, but currently Toxicroak is the Oil Baron.
why though, gulp is the best at its shit skill...
if mons deserve their own tier it's meowth and wobbu. They are the worst at doing bad skills
@brazen tusk this you?? Still playing?
that looks like you only have 4 freinds lmao
I just thought it'd be less noticeable way at the bottom so I pushed it up 
Hey sorry 😢 I’m taking a month break of all things Pokemon. Do what you must ❤️
Alrighty, no worries. Thanks for clarifying 
5183-4699-2134 guess I have a spot now lol
Does anyone know who Garlik is and whether they're still playing?
i removed that person a long time ago for being inactive
it seems they came back
but they seem super flaky
I've got a couple spots open
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Playing since day 1
Ok they aren’t consistent
But let’s not say “flaky”
That’s a little to serious for pokemon sleep tracker
too
we're in a server full of min-maxing number-crunching tryhards, what did you expect 
isnt that what the mathcord is
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Had to remove a few people for sending me a bunch of bad stuff. Please refer to the picture to see what I consider bad stuff (also swablu). Please only add me if you don't send that stuff
Is psyduck still considered bad
I feel like it's proven that it can be pretty good now
psy is good now??
i put psyduck in a calc alongside amph and espeon, and while it's not nearly as bad as we originally thought it still performs worse than the other two
its trigger rate is out of the wazoo but the skill doesn't make up for it
if only golduck were faster..
or if it had slaking's ing rate it would be pretty sick
yeah it could have had a niche as a pseudo apple ing mon at 30
technically it still is it just sucks in comparison to the other actual apple mons
yeah would have been nice to have an easily accessible 'apple mon' considering all i get are psyduck spawns everywhere i go
i thought dozing on lapis was supposed to be good😔
i saw someone on my list send an ekans on lapis earlier and i can only speculate just how fucked their spawns are 
haven't asked because they've been pretty flawless with their candies otherwise i just dont care
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triple cacao also sounds pretty good
unless a poison island comes out I'd rather use duck than snake to be honest
Hi wonderful people🔥
I just need to fill up my friend list with one player as I removed an inactive player (wasn’t playing for over 7 days RIP) 🤭
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This is my first week at Snowdrop and I almost had nothing to send. Thank goodness for Mankey being a bro.
Wait really
What was the calc I saw then
K tried my hand at makkin a list ordered within tiers
My understanding of rarity of spawns is weighted so stuff might be placed lower or higher cuz of that
also im valuing berries that dont have islands a bit higher just for preparation purposes
ralts number 1 cuz i selfishly wanna max my sassy gardevoir ;>
I would not put bulbasaur so high, otherwise I mostly agree with it
Oh and spheal should be S imo
pog- bulbasaur i just got a one with skill triggers and ingrediant finding so that combos going off, starters are just pretty rare in general and i only been able to get it to level 25 so far
Spheal is an S tier poke buuut if u slumber in cyan or snowdrop its kinda easy to drown in its candy
You got 4 walrein lvl 50 and still got candies ? =p
i spent december just targeting it cuz i wanted to be able to handle snowdrop and by the time i had my boi i had the level 50 candies
hahaha i guess not lol
Room for one friend. I send based on the sleep sprint list from the math cord.
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Spot filled ~ thank you all 🔥
I didn’t know bellsprout was so praised sometimes I don’t realize it. Also magnemite, I probably never used it 👀 🪦
Bellsprout goes hard x3
Magnemites skill is very interesting, i think its better at using it then the eeveelutions?
ive been slotting in my sub par glaceon in on sundays just to build up pot size to get a monday jump start
potentially nets ya a few extra spawn every week
Yeah it procs slightly more on average and is a 3 stage so saves seeds
The main downsides it currently has is that it has no islands and it's only found on gg so it's hard to farm but both will be resolved in the future
oop u stole my words lel
cept cuz it only has one island rn makes it a rarer candy to share around ;P
Would you guys get rid of him?
Sent 🙌
id say that's pretty good ye. also i would drop cubone even further down, its actually insane how bad of a berry mon it is
ill send you a pic once im on my computer
however since none of the potmons are favoured on lapis magenzone is better than the other two strictly on principle
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o ye just played with a calculator and it and arbok are slackin hard
doest even have eggs liek arbok
banettes also a lot better than i thought
Johto starters > Kanto just cuz they show up less
I feel liek sharing Snover over Spheal is better for the same reason
Shuppets berry power is very good, and it will only get better with ghost island and has oil for those crazy new dishes
Cubone and Ekans suck but i cant get mad over berry specialists candy lel
i would probably still put ekans and cubone in d tier, but overall very nice
Switch croagunk w swablu and W list
Copium tier is perfect
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Got 1 spot, someone deleted me after I sent eevee, dratini and bellsprout this week, this is the first time I get deleted I m confused lol
ping me if you add plz I ll accept tomorrow morning, sleep time right now =p
i was wanting to croagunk higher but also i already have 750 candy and im assuming none of that was from my friends list lolol
I only had 100 now broke
Also need riolu candy to lvl 30 lucario
saaaame lol
im gonna have croagunk pull swablu down to its level
mime should be higher than swablu, kanghaskan and heracross for sure
mime and bellsprout are pretty much the same mon... it comes down to which one you got a good roll of
I feel the only argument for kanghaskan is that he's rare but that applies to sableye too
the funniest thing about kanga is that he's actually worse than pupitar which is lmao
Lets wait for a couple hours 
I
Guess togepi line miss me
mime herracross and kanga are literally the three pokemon i dont think i ever thought about be4 lel
they all have just never entered my life so i was just following the other list til someone said something x3
I'll do some research and see what i think
yeah mimes sure getting shafted by sharing an island with victrebell
and also not being at lapis???
Heracross hurts my brain
did somebody say snoozing hell
I am waiting for the day my snakey boy can come back out of retirement 
the copium tier is my favorite tier by a long shot 
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Meant to post this earlier before going to sleep, but it is what it is 
But yeah, 1 spot freed up - haven't unlocked lapis though as a heads up
yea its the same as victreebel but slightly worse
but you might very well get a good mime before you find a good bellsprout
so I dont think the candy is bad
its like doduo vs totodile kinda
I'll let the mime live in the shadow of its better self
think this is an instance where its rarity purely hurts it
sending out bellsprout is probs gonna help 90% more people that have a good version of that over the mime
actually you're right i think🤔
apparently golduck is better than espeon
why not? we're in a place where ppl remove someone for one bad candy (don't agree with this but whatever). It's better to send bad candy than no candy
and when ppl don't even take part in the server other than to browse chats like this for FCs and try to get premium candy without giving it themselves, that isn't exactly fair either
I've had multiple ppl added from this chat who appear out of nowhere and add you but wont even say who they are and then go AWOL
I think a lot of the issue is people don't wanna actually advertise here who know they are inconsistent sleepers because they'd be outed, so they just browse here trying to get in on the good candy knowing they are flaky. and then ppl remove them and they come back here looking for more ppl hoping ppl will accept
I just don't like leeches in any game 


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