#Optimal dishes discussion thread
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Who's we and how can people contribute for faster data collection?
Redpander . Mathgeek and me.
You can check the linked sheet. There is a table for ingredients with amounts dropped. Send us pictures of your pokemon for the ingredients and amounts we dont have filled.
I filled most with proof from the screenshots people posted in discord
That should work
Ok
are dishes more optimal than berries?
I usually just fill my team with the double berry mons
Depends on your playstyle
open to feed 3 times, usually don't open as much on 1 hr intervals
Berries of the week and fav dish
then try to sleep the recommended hours
yeah i'm currently just running a berry team
Try to follow my thread here if you want #1135459507959496802
OK let me look at it
To see which could suit you
i have a shiny metapod i duno if i wanna evolve it
Its better to read from the beginning
i know raising it from caterpie is better
ok so if i'm more afk oriented berry team is good due to afk overflow
probably going with that
how? its soo long :D:D
i tested a dish today with
12 apple(90) 4 milk(98) / 11%-receipt / lvl7 after cooking=11%
added 7 Oil(121)
I got a **2759 **nutrition result.
According to your sheet the base receipt at lvl7 is 1814.
7Oil is 847 (still 98 nutrition short)
7Oil with lvl_bonus is 940 (still 5 nutrition short)
it looks like you are right about receipt_bonus not considering extra ingredients. But the LVL_bonus seems to apply!
And there is still something wrong with the percentages to a minor degree, as i do not get exactly the value i need it to be.
But its informative as it'll show you how and why i specific selected each team members
yes, i read it when i have time, but there is a too long history to start at the beginning :D. I only read the updates.
sorry, but it seems i was wrong with receipt_bonus applying to extra ingredients. so you are somewhat correct, efficiency is better on high value ingredient using dishes.
Thanks for the update. That's a shame it would have made things a lot easier
At least I hadn't dumped all my cacao in random dishes yet
there would be no difference. you dont have a dish at early pot levels that uses cacao any way. its only relevant on sunday, where you could potentially cook 5 different desserts and 1 salad with cacao.
Yeah I'm saving them for Sunday!
good idea 😄
I don't have that many just from random skills or tickets
I also like the idea of going for big meals on Sunday if there is actually a better chance of extra tasty dishes
Ok I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this here or anywhere but THERE is a way to take advantage of the Sunday double pot boost 4 times. You just need to not feed Snorlax during the 6pm-4am interval on Saturday night. Since technically after 4 am is the daily reset and is Sunday, the double pot boost starts at the time. So for the 2 hours interval between 4am-6am, you can take advantage of it this way. You just need to be dedicated to wake up that early in the morning. So in total you could potentially have 4 meals with lots of ingredients. Due note you need A LOT to fully utilise this. I've done this last Sunday with my ingredients team
I will be covering this when Sunday comes on my thread
And how to FULLY utilise it
exploits to go
dude youre actually amazing for this
#1135459507959496802 i dont see your name here
Just read along if you want
doing smth rn, ill hop on it soon
I think you just called wrong, lemme pull it up
does anyone know anything about what makes meals 'extra tasty'?
It’s ENTIRELY anecdotal but I’ve had a lot more extra tasty meals when I flap the fan at a set rhythm. Next time I make a meal I’ll take a video to show my timing
There’s been a lot of discussion of whether or not flapping the fan actually does anything
Lol don't forget to hold down the B button
we could try, but i doubt it to be real
I knew it
It def feels real, the first week of playing I spammed the fan as fast as I could and never got any extra tasty
2nd and 3rd week now I’ve been doing the rhythm and I get extra tasty meals far more. Like on average I’m getting 1 a day
And I know I’m still fucking up the rhythm im going for
i don't believe it
i'd have an easier time believing that sundays are more likely to have extra tasty, or that more ingredients make it more likely
(the post was on a sunday night)
It’s happened to me on non-sundays is what I’m saying
like I said it’s entirely anecdotal
But it wouldn’t surprise me if there is something there
well i keep doing it on non sundays and i don’t get any tasty
oh i just got 3/3 tasty meals today doing a similar rhythm (didnt take screenshots so will try to replicate tomorrow + record screen)
i didnt rly pay attn to the fan, but rather tapped immediately* whenever the pot lid settled back onto the pot. (it kind of jumps up, not sure if im making sense)
This feels like confirmation bias unless you can consistently replicate 😛
yeah i'll try tomorrow LOL
If you can get 3 more tomorrow then I'll bite lol
Film plz too also
If there's a fan meta I stg
ya i'll screen record them all and if theyre failures u simply will not see me in here tmr
LOOOL
i mean if its true and u can actually hit extra tasty meals each time that would b kinda insane
Very helpful Graphic. just one thing. Wobbuffet doesn’t have Tomato. He has Apple
Awesome thanks!
@late helm victreebell line should only be tomato not apple
also it would be good to indicate ingredient specialists for lv 30/60 as they will have more ingredients just not precisely 2x
I also think i got success with the fan 😆
i messed up breakfast and missed a beat 
gonna chalk that down to 50/50 i just woke up vs its all in my head
I have had 50% success 1/2 while using the fan when hitting it when it as high as it goes when before my extra tasty success was like 4/55. Forgot to screen record the successful one of course
Sample size sucks now but this fan stuff has peaked my interest, I'll try better on getting data/recording the data
Wait I just realized I wasn't getting extra tasty as much as before since I stopped using the fan
I tried the trick and it wasn't working
I might be tapping late though or something
or you all are on cope and gaslighting me
I am not gonna claim it works or it doesn't it just might be something to pay attention to, and it would be cool if it was working in the background to help increase our chances at extra tasty. I know like there's no way it guarantees it, but maybe the normal chance is 5% and with fan timed properly it's 10%.
We are going insane
Clearly what we need to do to guarantee an 'extra tasty' is throw our phone as high as we can into the air and then catch it
The higher we get the more likely it is
Just reminding everyone to NOT FEED Snorlax for his dinner time between 6pm-4am if you can wake up between 4am-6am on Sunday morning to take advantage of the double pot size boost
gf will love the alarm at 3am 
That's smart
I tried your method and got extra tasty for lunch, messed up the timing badly for breakfast tho
This method costs next to nothing to validate, we just need more data points
I wast just reminding people since its already dinnertime on my time right now
they might just feed without knowing the info already
but I doubt not everyone will do it since it'll mess up their sleep schedule and not get 100 sleep points
TAUPE sucks for cooking and berry production.
glad its working 4 u!!
meanwhile i keep missing the last beat and its so over 4 me ... becoming a nonbeliever again...
Like I was saying, if this fanning thing is anything it's probably just a small % increase to a small % chance that is already possible. And maybe the small % goes up incrementally depending on your success rate, so tbh testing this might actually not be easy but an actual nightmare
#general message
That message was easy to find because it's pinned in general chat
buts this one us optimising cooking so it fits
But yeah if your schedule already lines up with it I'd say definitely keep that in mind
If you are nightshift or an early bird
I can see situations that optimizing like that wouldn't be harmful to one's sleep wellness but it's worth noting that it's not as important as sleeping
TAUPE INGREDIENT FOCUS:
Best ingredient is Tomato with Dugtrio/Sudowodoo. You can cook regular dishes every week with it.
For that you need (depending on the week) further Ingredients.
CURRY WEEK:
Mediocre week.
(*Solar Power Tomato Curry *) You want Herbs with Arcanine for regular dishes. And your **Tomato **Pokemons.On a Sunday you can get (Bulk Up Bean Curry) Susages with Charizard and Soybeans from Geodude and add some Eggs. **Dugtrio/Sudowodoo **can rest on Sunday.
SALAD WEEK:
This is the best week for Taupe!
(Water Veil Tofu Salad) You want Soybeans with Geodude and your **Tomato **Pokemons. Most optimal receipt!
(Heat Wave Tofu Salad) Or you let **Dugtrio/Sudowodoo **rest and focus on Soybeans with Geodude and Herbs with Arcanine.On a **Sunday **you can try to get all the ingredients for a Superb receipt (Overheat Ginger Salad): Only now you could get Larvitar/Marowak/Typlosion to work for Ginger and lots of Arcanine for Herbs. Dont forget your **Tomato **Pokemons!
DESSERT WEEK:
this week sucks!
(Stalwart Vegetable Juice) You NEED Apples and your **Tomato **Pokemon.
Alternatively you go for (Ember Ginger Tea) which also NEEDs Apples, but the other resoruce is Ginger from Larvitar/Marowak/Typlosion. Which is also not optimal but you could get those Berry Pokemon going.
Bottle neck will be apples i think.On a Sunday you can get (Hustle Protein Smoothie) from Soybeans with Geodude and **Cacao **from your favorite Cacao producer.
here is a reduced version:
thats true, are u splitting the sunday sleep schedule to 4 hours and 4.5 hours ?
since we gotta wake up between 4~6
is the effect of LVL_bonus the same irrespective of the recipe? its just the lvl of the recipe
i was thinking today, why should i lvl up a recipe that's hard to make when i can just throw my ingredients in a very basic recipe with a higher level?
and by hard to make i guess i mean switching in a team specifically to make that recipe which may be less optimal in other aspects
nvm i'm dumb. i was thinking about how to optimise "excess ingredients" when the focus should be on levelling up good recipes. so i should try not to waste "excess ingredients" on recipes that won't help me in the medium/long run
For Saturday night sleep yes. I've explained why here #1135459507959496802
Lvl bonus is same on all receipts
Agree to some extend. There are 7/11/17/25/35% tier receipts. The last one probably does not need high level to perform, but we cant cook it yet. What we can cook are most of the 11% tiers. A good part of 17% tier. Some 25%tier.
A level on a receipt is around 2% bonus.
So low tier receipts are outpaced by level pretty fast. But you need a big level difference to outpace a 25%tier.
And the level bonus applies to ALL ingredients. The tier bonus only to the needed ingredients!
@crude finch nice grafik. Can you make the dish tier visible as well? Thats an important factor to consider what to cook too. Maybe as background color of the dish picture. And a explainer at bottom what it means
all dish tiers are base value in the infographic, that's stated at the top
Is there a trick to extra tasty dishes btw? Like to do with amount of ingredients used or even tapping the magikarp fan in rhythm? Or is it pure rng
it requires a secret ingredient
i dont mean level. tier.
feel free to provide reference to what you're talking about
yeah will later. had no time to continue before
OK I got more extra ingredients to actually make this meal. Just call me chef
ill post the clip on my thread here #1135459507959496802
it might be too long so ill cut and compress
tap the fan. lol
it doesn't work
it's just Sunday has a higher crit chance for a extra tasty meal
First time I tried the fan thing and I got this. Pseudo or not ima do it forever from now on lmao
I've never gotten the fan trick to work
But if it does exist I'm fucking it up
or you all are stealing my luck
No consistant results on the fan trick for me, I'm not worried about it anymore
I’m gonna try doing the fan trick consistently this week and compare it to the past week. Last week (before Sunday) I got 1 extra tasty without the fan trick but we'll see this week
It didn’t work for me this AM, I reckon it’s very likely pseudo and testing on Sunday when the odds are boosted anyway is just messing with us
We could try a huge sample size tho and see if it’s above margin of error
Can anyone else share their weekly results? I'm surprised Berries did more than cooking for me, I only had 2 units on type for berries last week
Albeit I wasn't cooking right the first few days I spose, mot until i joined the discord here lol
Greengrass week 3 - team of 4 berry farmers+ ING mon but 4 ingredients magnets
(also got 0 extra tasty meals
)

the fact that I have 1 berry finder with fav berries + 1 other berry finder is contributing a lot
Grepa Berry Week… 3x Pikachus put in work… The “Chu Crew” had more than enough to power me through with Apples and some extra ingredients tossed in. I did however run really low late in the week on Sunday with higher pot size. Had I to do it again I would probably sacrifice some Berry speed for better more sustained ingredients.
Team:
3x Pikachu
Chikorita
Eevee
I feel like most people are gonna just generically get more results from berries because they aren't running optimal dishes, but with optimal dishes I see it at around 50/50 for berries/ingredients depending on how many extra tasty meals you hit and of course how good your various party members are
It's way easier to slam your favored berry and get really good results
And not everyone has a God tier squirtle that is supplying all the milk for cereal in the state of kansas
i love this line and will send it to others out of context xD
What would an "optimal" dish team look like though? Would you forsake on type berries for better ingredients?
ofcourse Cyan Squirtle sounds like on-type berry + good ingredient for certain weeks
Imo right at this moment it's like 3 favored berry mons that provide a relevant ingredient
2 ingredient mons that provide you the bulk of the recipe for your dishes. Like cyan I would do 2squirt/3toto to hit milk/sausage qouatas for curry and salads
Down the road when we unlock space for really big recipes it might be like a 2 favored berry of one ingredient and 3 favored ingredient mons that provide the variety of stuff for your like 3-4 recipe meals is ma guess

if i can share here
i think i'm doing close to what you recommend for now
they're not all the highest level
but 3 ingredient finders, and 2 berry finders
all on-type
tomatoes are fine for basic salads, i was considering sliding Gastly in to make the Fiery Ginger salads but idk if it can realistically farm 17 Fiery Herbs for every single meal lol
two digletts together kinda make a 3rd berry specialist, kek
If I'm running low on ingredients in general, is it better to keep filling the pot all the way or just do the minimum so that I can hopefully make another recipe next meal?
if i understand correctly, the ingredients that go into a recipe get a bonus to their value, the excess ingredients only provide their flat rate
so if you're running low on ingredients, the goal should be to maximize how many recipes you can make, and avoid "Mixed" dishes
2/3 extra tasty so far this week doing the fan rhythm thing. Gonna track my cooking all week and see how many extra tasty I get
Perfect, thanks! 21 ingredients 3 times a day (especially after Sunday) really cleaned me out so I'll focus on making sure I can cook actual recipes
yea, most of my week last week was spent on basic dishes with some excess here and there when i could spare it lol
then come sunday i tried to make some of the big boy dishes lol
do you know where is the video with the rythmn ? can't figure out how to do it
You can also check the pinned document. I worked out 3 team comps, that perform different depending on the isle you are on
Dishes have a tier assigned to them, higher tier gets more bonus % to the listed ingredients (7-35%).
Every dish also levels up over time and ** all ingredients** get this bonus (~2% / lvl)
If you can try to get the ingredients for the 11% dishes 3 times a day. They are much better than the 7% beginner dishes. Only dump excess ingredients of other types you dont need for your next 11% dish.
Only on sunday make 17%to25% dishes if you can get the ingredients.
where can I find the dish tier list?
There is none yet. They are way too complex and varying on your team comp. So i think not usefull
What is the fan rhythm thing you speek of
The x2 crit multiplier boost you get
Lol jk
It's all fake
Sunday has a higher crit chance than normal
That's why you see lots of people having crits meals yesterday
It’s a theory that interacting with the magikarp fan during cooking increases probability of the dish being extra tasty. It’s highly likely to be absolutely nothing but I’m testing it because it doesn’t hurt and it’s fun to time lol
I always hit the fan and have only gotten 2 extra tasty dishes hand have played for 3 weeks
I'm pretty certain it's absolutely nothing, but just a fun cosmetic thing you can interact with... fanning the meal will speed your progress along faster reducing the total time it takes to cook the dish, but i doubt it has any true affect on the dish score or critical chance.
is it best to hard focus one dish? I get sausages pretty reliably but I've built up a lot of tomatoes (it's a curry week) I can make a solar power right now but probably not reliably, beanburger is easiest
Curry week does not use tomatoes that great. Sausage milk is best
I like dought Katsu or Solar powered
If you have any Milk Providers you can start making the Cheezeburger Curry (8 Sausage / 8 Milk). It's probably the easiest Mid-Tier Curry dish...
Unless you can reliably start pulling in Fiery Herbs to pair with the tomato
I need a second charmander. If I hit it my taupe is going to probs be 2x char/ 1x squirt / 1x dig/ 1x cynda
For the time being
Got curry week
Is there a spreadsheet that you can input how many ingredients you have and it'll tell you what dishes you can make?
Via raenonx page you can't input how many ingredients you have, but you can filter recipes by ingredients. Hope it helps : https://pokemonsleep.raenonx.cc/cooking
It's partially helpful as it at least removes the ones you certainly can't cook because you don't have the ingredients. But @grizzled epoch it would be much more helpful if we could input that we have 3 apples, 20 honey, 15 tomatoes and it tells us only what we can cook. Or maybe it shows what could be cooked (like it does now) if you have enough ingredients, but it greys out options that you can't cook because you don't have enough.
My goal is to take all the ingredients I have and easily know what is the best meal I could cook vs having to manually look at every meal, throw out the ones I don't have enough for and finally see only 1 or two options
Yeah I can do that, let me think how to arrange the inputs
Is it better to make a blue or red team as in the sheet, or focus on snorlax his favorite berries? I can make a team full of poke that have his favorite berries, but I lose out on some good ingredients. Though if I make a team like the sheet I only have 1 poke with favorite berry. I'm not sure which one I should go for.
Someone on Reddit made a excel page for dishes based on number of ingredients I think. Or atleast I thought there was a post about it.
Really early game, like first week or two... berries will likely far outpace your cooking strengths. like maybe by double if not 3-1 or more.
That said you still want to cook a meal every day even if it's just the base meal that gives apples. So using a recipe every time you cook matters.
It's really hard to put an optimal meal team together... but matching favored berries should be easier and give you generally more strength gains than just trying to cook base meals alone.
The problem is when you hit Sunday and the pot size increases if you gathered enough ingredients during the week to maximize and fill your pot for recipes
what if I just keep making the honey drink over and over until sunday and I can get enough cocoa to make chocolate cakes
They have different strengths and weaknesses. Especially for each island. If you dont have many good matching pokemon better go with your matching berries and try to do next week
But up to you. You can try one week. A ingredient team. And next week a berry team
We could calc some of those scenarios and see whats better xD
Thanks for the answers! I'll keep the berry pokes for now
Not lobbying for you to do extra work, but i'd be interested in seeing those numbers...
I had a Salad week where all i could make was Fancy Apple salad. I couldn't even get enough new mons to unlock another recipe so my base 6% recipe ended up at level 18 at the end of the week.
On a really big Sunday cook, with lots of added cacao i tipped just over 17k on a crit.
i have time this evening
which scenarios should i check?
7% all week and sunday all in?
what else?
pot level 2 f2p?
Weekly meal plan cheat sheet
this are all the values you need. i think.
you can build together your own scenario.
eg. cooking apple juice 6 days a week with cacao additions. juice at high level.
then on sunday cook a proteine smoothy with no filler ingredients. smoothy lvl1.
Then do your aecond scenario and compare which is higher.
i offer you
"no filler" just the listed ingredients, nothing on top
"apple filler" cheapest filler until pot is full.
"cacao filler" most expensive filler until pot is full.
you can just take any cell and multiply by the times you want to cook it (total 21 meals) and compare to another scenario.
level are just at 4 breakpoints.
all math uses latest findings from mathcord, and should be correct +-1-2 value.
PS: "weekend" should be only a "sunday"!
pls test 😄
weekend should have been a sunday 😄
@teal pecan pls pin this too 😄
Done
I'll take a look thanks for running!
Is that in the Sleep Cooking sheet? - I don't see the sheet if it is... I'll make a copy though for myself or you can DM me a link to see it
Just a picture here
You only need the pic and a calculator on your phone/pc
With too many variables a calculator is just too hard.
I got ping
there ping. Have a pin
thx
one day i'll understand how dishes work

i think it'll be easier as my roster expands
Just use squirtle. You have unlocked recipe. Your welcome
That would require at least seeing a Squirtle once

Slumber more
Sleep issue
Yeah this fan thing is pure gimmick haha
So I started creating a spreadsheet that shows what meals you're able to make based on how many of each ingredient you have. Anyone want to help me with inputting the formulas?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UkDhbyjEEtjdWJuyDTEYxfNOmqWJLkpgbc1HdmORh3c/edit?usp=sharing
I already have the formulas done for that in the Matbcord sheet
If you wanna take a look to copy over to yours
I just added ingredient owned in the cooking page, supports cloud saving too
for some reason making the snow cloaked salad during the cooking stops at 500 points and then goes up to like 2.6k once its done. With other food i usually get to 2k points and then it adds like 200 at the end
whenever I cook it only seems to count additional ingredients not the base for a recipe but then it's rectified
Ooh i see, that makes sense thank you!
Yeah, I think it's a new visual bug. It didn't do that for me originally but does now
But it doesn't calc anything right?
If you don't count the calculation for finding the bonus between making it a recipe or not then no
Oh BTW I've been meaning to chat to you about your website and Sleep-DB
Because I like what you have and I wanna make my project while not stepping on your toes
What's your actual "goal" for your website in terms of identity and pages etc?
Oh that's great to hear, is it good to chat here or should we move somewhere else
Sure we can move DM
It should be fine to drop berry units in favor of ingredient units today, right? I'm trying to prepare for at least 3 big meals for tomorrow
Salad week for me:
1 Ginger
16 Fiery Herb
24 Tomatoes
I think that should be doable over the course of today and tomorrow
I am a little worried about not actually hitting the emails for today, even with triple tomatoes for the basic salad
Wondering if I shouldn't just got 5/5 tomatoes for now and then add the Gastly & Houndoor after
I'm guaranteed at least two Overheat salads for now
Well I vastly overestimated my ability to produce tomatoes
12 hours with 5/5 Tomatoes, two being specialists and...i got 8
Any crit meals today?
imagine if I had a good camp set active like last week
DON'T forget to tap the magikarp fan continuously. 😂
this is how you get enough ingredients for Sunday. 3/4 procs for ingredients magnet S mons. not bad
4/5 for the whole team is nuts. the crazy thing is that spheal activated it's main skill as I was just about to close the app. so it would have been perfect
but I didn't record it 😭
how are you guys getting 5 figure dishes?? ive never seen it go past 4000
high level recipe
momoo Caprese salad is level 16 when that clip started plus with 54 size pot
I'm not getting extra tasty hits on Sunday and it's so sad ):
23 size dish with 2856 base power. Add some levels to this dish and add some extra ingredients on a sunday. Mcmandin put 31 extra infredients.
Then let there be luck for a crit. And on a sunday the crit is multiply by 3. 8432 was its base power before crit.
also don't forget the level of the recipe
28% bonus
I didn't know Sundays had a crit multiplier!
high crit boost not multiplier
I think they do though actually - it's not just 2x i think it's 3x as per mathgeek's data.
lol I was just about to go to sleep and managed to get lots of milk so I decided to make a very milky Moomoo Caprese salad
don't forget to keep tapping the fan guys
😂
now I have a level 22 recipe that has base 23 ingredients
@vivid nimbus I think that was your chat on discord notification that gave a crit boost . Hahaha
I got you
any tips for salad weeks boys i got unlucky
My tip is to hopefully not have a team like mine that only made apple salad lmao
Bean Sausage and Milk make Caesar Salad… Eevees, Squirtles, Charmanders or Totodiles…
nice, I've been saving all my cacao in the week for this sunday dish
3rd salad week in a row i wanna cry
This is my first dessert week what is the most efficient one? The recipes seem huge. I can make the oil milk honey one but I don’t know if I can sustain it.
this is kinda an old comment but was searching through the discord, you could just bump your timezone however many hours forward instead
Huh, i wasn't expecting such a big gap. I even cut most every on-type berry unit on Saturday in favor of building up ingredients for Sunday
Though I guess the idea is that recipes scale well
good start of the week
will level up this recipe a much as I can
Also don't forget to keep tapping the magikarp fan guys. 😂

nice, on cyan?
Does spam tapping the fan really make a difference? The extra tasty buff seems random
lol no. I just heard peole keep saying it does but it don't do anything imo
you just have to believe
Greengrass actually
oooh, 4th week or 3rd
4th week
Though that first week wasn't a full 7 days
oooh what rank did you get on your 2nd/3rd week?
Ah sorry, i'm bad about following chats without pings lol
Week 3 Master 1, and week 4 Master 2
That being said had a good camp for both weeks, the free one and buying the monthly pass or whatever
Starting this week I'll only have the 1 free camp a month I spose
Week 3 I also blew alot of the supplies we were given for free and even bought some of the ingredient tickets from the monthly store
Probably not ideal but I really wanted to see a Masterball LOL
Ahhhh congrats though
don't forget to keep tapping guys😂
😡
@twilit solstice keep tapping 😂
lmao i got extra tasty today too by tapping obviously 🤣
it's too slow for me so it works either way
it's like the classic hold a+b plus down button on the main series games when trying to catch a pokemon.😂
28 out of what now
alright i was gonna say
he's mocking us

then I'll be making 10k crit on 27 size pot😂
that's 30k per day IF I'm that really lucky
How are you making Big Malasada so consistently?
Have you compared that against a hardcore favored berry specialist team? Like x5 rats on Taupe or something
I guess you always have the option to run some favored ing magnets as well, would probably tip it that way most times regardless of how they compare
I did have a third account before
Considering dishes scale as high as like...level 50(?) bonuses, cooking is possibly going to outscale berries in the long run
it's mainly a berry roster
had greppa for second week and got to master 4 on greengrass
with 4 pika lines and a spheal
had rawst aswell
Berries also scale until... 60+, iirc? And if you can get berry finding subskill that's going to be much easier to run than big ingredient meals
one pika had berry finder at level 10
meal levels hit diminishing returns in terms of leveling them up pretty early on
mon level
Really? I thought they were jsut flat values
+2 base strength per berry per level iirc
brb, meeting
also, same
not a fan of berry team unless it's an ingredients magnet S mons like caterpie, slakoth and spheal evo lines
Oh Slakoth is Magnet? Nice
Even though it carried you to master 4 on week two?
Random note, the irony that the Magnet Pokemon doesn't have the Magnet skill
Though I'm sure other people have pointed that out already
I'm purely interested in the end of week result
unless you have the 3 evo lines as I've mentioned
but yeah, favored specialists with magnet are of course the ideal
berry specialists with ingredients magnet S mons is my 3rd favourite team comp
esp a full butterfree team
before I gave away that berry account, I had a butterfree and 4 metapods
it was still keeping up especially I had lum just before I handed it over
but it helps.them to add more ingredients so its still relevant?
I think cooking is more fun than berry gathering but the end of week numbers don’t lie. only time I’ve had cooking points exceed berry points is when I used a good camp ticket
I think charge points count as “berries,” but even accounting for that it’s still not close
I also think more fun. And with constant higher dish grade cooking the difference to berry is not that great anymore
I've found it more fun to try and optimize both Berries AND Meal options for cooking the same optimal dish each meal, with an attempt to cook a high value new meal on a Sunday... More fun and engaging than just dropping berry finders out and forgetting about it.
yeah the weeks I’ve done that I’ve enjoyed the most
this week I’ve tried a berrymaxxing team with minimal cooking (simpler recipes, not filling the pot) and it’s just not as fun
Is sableye berry/ing or skill?
Sableye is skill
Thx
Ahhh I hate the auto-add ingredients button

Pressed it by accident and ofcourse it used 13 ingredients from tomorrow's only Overheat Salad
10 fiery Herbs and 3 Ginger

Where is this sheet?
in the mathcord
Where is the mathcord? 🙂
There's like 5 places immediately available to find it ;p
Announcements, partners, pins, general searches, my bio
First Sunday meal and first lucky apple pie lol
The jiggly flan is next (I was missing some fancy eggs)
God damn 27k
I was 3 eggs short of flan I can’t imagine how good that would be if it had crit hahaha. But yeah that just shot me to master 3 when I wasn’t expecting to get there
@twilit solstice TAP AND BLOW for extra luck 😂
Perks of having a ingredient magnet S mons
Wow nice
plus look at my recipe list. most of the best ones are unlocked if my pot size can handle it
Sadly no crit
need to tap magikarp fan everytime and blow the screen for extra crit boost 😂
I was planning to make either choc cake or hustle protein but have low cacao
TIP: If you have desserts next week, save up lots of cacao as the best recipes needs it and honey as the secondary item since most 20+ recipes needs it as well
Really happy with my first extra tasty in a week!
Should probably do the guide for each island, since it has a set X/Y/Z berries and then it can roll 1 of the 3 dish types
No extra tasty hit on my one Overgeat Salad (54 ingredients) this week, my dreams of master 3 are dashed

Lmao same, except my game just crashed adn bugged so I lost all ingredients + no dinner

I do kinda wish that instead of increased rates of extra tasty we just got one guaranteed extra tasty meal on Sunday
That being said the RNG is part of the fun for some and no one complains about the high off riding a triple extra tasty sunday
im running a 3/5 fav berry team rn hopefully i’ll hit master 1 this wej
Good luck!
Don't forget to keep tapping
And blow the screen for extra good luck 😂
if I ever meet a chef irl I'll get them to make the dish for my snorlax, guaranteed extra tasty

ok, i need a kickstart here, 2 weeks working on "mixed salad" i'm doing something terrible wrong.
Check the pinned sheet or serebii for the salad dishes ingredients
If you make a copy you can expand the hidden lines
what would be better late game - the 7 to 8 ingredient apple recipies with 50% slowpoke tails as ingredients at lvll 40 or the best say slowpoke tail recipes with only the filler only being 1/5th or less slowpoke tails at lvl 40
not sure what pot size we should assume
wait would be 33% slowpoke tails not 50%
the best recipe your pot can handle plus leeks as its easy to get compared to tails
I'll show you ad I'm on my way there
16/30 is my diglett level
are all dittos lvl 30 leeks? or are there a few ones with tails?
bummer is that confirmed? cause i got a slowpoke waiting to give me a cacao
oh just worked out i can pick around the cacao for its berries till its 30, dont want to mess that up though XD
I'm confused I don't understand your message
im trying to have minimal ingredients found so ingredient magnet skill and ingredient tickets give me maximum slowpoke tails
if you leave the cacao on the ground its not added to ingredients found list
oh ok
I'd rather pick it if the mon dropping you some of it already
oh we keep switching threads but I think this is the best one to post this
my team mushrooms living up to it's name
only unlocked certain ingredients that'll allow me to make the "best" recipes so far
can confirm tickets and ingredient mons can drop rare ingredients as long as its unlocked
Been making caprese salad all week.
SPRINT TO UNLOCK LEVEL 30 SLOWPOKE
INGREDIENT MAGNET GO POG
im doint the slowpoek sprint too- i reset for a lvl 10 EXP starter pikachu, fluked a starter lvl 10 sleep exp too but i dont want milk in my ingredient list
which ingredients are you exploiting?
how do you exploit ingredients o_o
ingredients magnet S mons drops
I have a lot of cacao but i only ever produced 1 to 3 with a psyduck. The rest is from magnets
Ah i see
The issue with that skill is that it randomises the ingr so u cant count on it entirely :/
If you did not unlock other infredients the drop chance of a certain i gredient is higher. I only have thise 4 and sausages unlocked. So the chance for cacao or any other is 1/5.
milk
I have peaked
if only this was a crit meal. 12k for a 54 size pot is still not bad. power of all mushroom top up with level 13 recipe
has anyone mastered the art of getting extra tasty?
There is none unfortunately
I do think sunday has either extra rates for extra tasty or its just that more ingredients mean more chances at extra tasty idk
Ive gotten most extra tasty on sunday
im about to do an 81 dish jigglypuff fruity flan
i hope it gets extra tasty
Even if it doesnt i still reach masters 2 with it
i was at master two and with this dish i got to master 3 and half way to master 4
Two weeks in a row with 0 Extra Tasty dishes on Sunday
Master 4 is a personal best though, was hardstuck Master 2 for the last few weeks
2 weeks in a row being a top chef with only 1 fave berry 😂
no camp active or whistles used
my recipe levels are starting to snowball now
My strength actually went down due to not having any crit meals on Sunday
I have been seeing people on #rate-my-mon-or-team saying that is better to wait for getting a higher level slowpoke instead of raising one that is actually good, but I think start leveling it now is faster unless you are p2w
Ehhhh
I mean maybe
So I've been making Moomoo Caprese Salad but now that I activated my good camp ticket I have enough pot space to make another dish
But I've been making the salad so long now that I'm wondering if I should change my team to account for the new salad or keep making the Moomoo salad
I just want to stop making it because this Croagunk is so bad 💀
put a croagunk with a spheal for extra ingredients
I've had the same problem before but I get so much ingredients now that I've hoarded
I have a surplus of every other ingredient but pure oil because my luck is so rotten
I have two spheals (one with +ingredient finding) and a Croagunk and I'm struggling to scrape by 💀
15 every day is difficult lmao
Especially since I need to dedicate some time to my berry production team every day
oh is it must be thinking of about a different recipe
5 oil for every moomoo salad
My Diglett and Wartortle are amazing at producing tomatoes and milk so I hardly ever need to dedicate time for it
oh yeah I was thinking about big masalada
Croagunk is just so frickin slow at producing oils its ridiculous
that recipe is actually good but need 10 oils
Yikes
This is my third Salad week in a row lmao
I'm feeling bad 💀
But that also means that I can just level up an individual salad to hell
post your team comp
you have lots of tomatoes ?
Oh yeah they're low energy 💀
Yes.
I still don't understand how Croagunk is so slow
Oh well I have 5 1/2 hours left to get 3 more oil
and then I can swap to my berry squad
wait no i still need 5 more because of dinner 💀
since you use an arcanine why don't you use a soybean dropper to make Heat Wave Tofu Salad for weekdays and momoo Caprese salad for Sunday
unless you don't have any mons or its a low level recipe for you
first salad week, dark/psychic/fighting berries. Of those types I only have a houndour. Can try and find a Mankey, but in the meantime I'll probably try and focus on dishes?
My only Squirtle is -ing so I'm thinking just the basic tomato or sausage salad for now maybe
put houndour asap regardless of level or nature
extra herbs
does your arcanine actually activates it skill alot? @stable mesa
oops wrong person
then make heatwave tofu aswell by adding a soybean dropper if you have any
I saw this team comp somewhere before
level of your pika and rat?
I don't have the dor nor magnemite
you have a thunderstone or able to buy it?
I just caught a sphreal today too
and evolve pika?
Uh my pichu has level 8 friendship right now
I rather find one with berry S level 10 and invest on that
ah ok
how much does your rat give you per berry?
got any other ingredients magnet S mons?
bulb, char?
bulb is good for desserts
hmm keep current team and make basic apple recipe for weekday and make big Malasada for Sunday
but you need honey
start hoarding oil
Thanks!
I can make apple and milk
added a pic for a possible snowdrop map team comp in the sheet
I put bulba in for honey
for ingredient farming I would need your thoughts on those two :
both kinda bad with -xp long term
I'd go for +6 main skill at level 50 for free
plus 23 inventory at level is a must for any ING mons
yeah I'm waiting to see if I get a better one but the lvl 7 the better option for now
I was gonna say the second bulba looks great, sad no inv up at any point but +10% speed, +36% ing is almost as much as the first will be able to accomplish at lvl 100. Not to mention additional help speed lvl 50 when you get there
Ok my first Dessert Week is winning me over
I am 3/3 on Extra Tasty pies
I think we're hitting Ultra 1 tonight baby

damn my base 27 size pot is nearly that amount
what size pot you have ?
Also 27
The level would be low seeing as how it's the first 3 times I've ever made the dish lol
But the filler is mediocre, some beans and mostly honey
Is there a Calculator where i can input the berries and the dish type and get the optimal team for berries and ingredients?
Idk if I can see the exact recipe level without having a meal available though
There's this which I've seen passed around
It's not so convenient that it'll recommend you a team, but it will tell you how much potential strength a member of your team will provide to Snorlax
Both based on their berries & ingredients, daily & weekly
Idk much about the site though, I'd say use it with a grain if salt unless someone has a better recommendation
should have clipped it
like a pro gamer😂
I wouldn't have posted if it weren't for the 3rd extra tasty in a row
Just boggled my mind lol
Especially after two weeks of 0 extra tasty on Sunday
You probably found iut how to handle the fan 
I've been pressing it every time
Is this to help you see how much ingr/points youll produce for ur current team
Or recommending a team for u
the former
you'd have to add and shuffle around member to see what had the max benefit
Ahhh gotcha thanks
This doesnt include the points you’ll earn from your meals right
it includes the potential strength of the ingredients they'll earn
does that translate to your meal bonuses or the extra points if you make more complex recipes though? 😮
i believe it's raw ingredient value
Ah thank you
Hey just got a decent soybean gatherer which would allow me to make a few more complex dishes. Do they give more power the more complex the dish is than the basic 1 ingredient ones? Or should I just stick with the basic ones since some are getting the 20-30% bonus because I've crafted them more often. Right now I'm maxing my pot at every meal with 41 ingredients (I have the camp ticket)
For example: My snazzy tomato salad (8 tomatoes) is giving me a 25% bonus because ive made only that this week.
However if I swap out Raichu for Golem I can make Water Veil Tofu Salad (10 soybeans 6 tomatoes)
Will that out level the basic recipe and give a higher bonus?
I might also add, do the extra ingredients you add get the bonus added to them? So like would cacoa get a 25% bonus to them or only the tomatoes?
See the pin. You cancompare those at a few breakpoint levels i put in the pic
Also depending on the extra ing you put in
The higher dish without fillers is still better by a lot
All additions only give their base value! No % bonuses apply to them at all
next strat will be berry Mons but with many ingredient finders to get those extra rare ones X)
Moomoo caprese salad
True but they all hate me so they don’t gather it anyway
This, with a squirtle and a Weepinbell and ive been set for Moomoo Caprese salads all week
Used 2 squrtles the first 2 or 3 days, but it wasnt worth it. changed one squirtle to a Raichu and theyre beaming now
IF YOU CAN SMELL WHAT MCMANDIN IS COOKING. Only 66 size as well. Imagine If I had camp active. But then again I wouldn't have enough mushrooms or herbs to top it up. @willow crown TAP TAP TAP 😂
what a nice way to start the week.
skipped to monday, gone back in time, pot size 122 (camp ticket + end of week bonus + metronom cooking pot up trigger).
bought ingredients with sleep points for fun and it was a good decision
Lol
another one but ran out of mushrooms and herbs to top it up
@willow crown keep tapping on Sundays with high size pot 😂
even after all meals today I still have 100+ ingredients left
Because of this weeks snacking adventure i am down to 20 ish ingredients
Next week cyan with 2 toto a squirtle, a iggly and slowbro i guess. Probably need my eevee there too
Do we get water stones for free from any of the missions?
300 pog
I am in love with Desserts lol
First ever week with them and I just hit extra tasty pie after extra tasty pay, even managed a few levels of Malasada(?) dessert but no extra tasty
New personal best from M4 -> M6
i was short 6k to master 5.
I really liked desserts
desserts are great.
for my magnet strat its also the best option
And I only got curry once and was on my first week wich was not even a full week, it was 3 days long
I also got a Bulbasaur that was really good for desserts but now it is not having any use
desserts are great for 2 reasons.
they use apples and honey better than salad or curry
they use cacao, which is great and abundantly available. (many dishes use cacao for desserts)
...whereas curry and salad rely more on unlockable resources from lvl30+.
apple = pikas
honey= butterfree, heracross, wiggly, bulba. all great options
lvl30 required ing dishes
curry 7/16
salad 6/16
dessert 2/16
TAP TAP TAP
oh I forgot to post this from my main account. crit meal on the best recipe for curries. I didn't have the best ingredients for top up so just used the highest common ingredients for me
I had to use magnimite skill to actually fit this in my pot
@ashen pewter long term wise I like that pika with sleep XP at 25, it will be good support raichu
Bayleaf is good as early farmer but 25 is bad
oh this is the wrong thread why is it here my bad, meant the team building thread lol
I could finally make this once per day but I need a better oil gatherer if I want to make this 3 times per day @willow crown keep tapping for that crit
You are really getting lucky
I try for crit everytime and get it very rarely
are you tapping and blowing?
who says you need fave berry specialists in taupe. mushrooms and herbs all day every day
I'm a chef like sanji. make the best with what you got😂
Nice
I guess I need to get a good gengar asap
first week at taupe. desserts lol
Im on my first week at taupe but got salads again
I have been getting salads for 5 weeks
Never waste food if you're hunting for that "All Blue"
Got salads again…

Wait, how do you get crits? You just tap as fast as possible?
Randomly happening. More likely on sundays
Pot fullness may also have an effect, or that could be confirmation bias
Updated my sheet with the dex goals required to upgrade pot size
out of all of the pure mushrooms meals I made this week only 2 have critted. that's why multiple gengars are so op. I'll post my end of week summary WITH NO FAVE BERRIES on my thread
Lol
sneak peak of latest strength and line up
charge strength S and mushrooms IS the ingredients meta
Gengar is s tier sure
I'm trying to look for a decent eevee for glaceon/flareon or a magnemite to raise my base pot size since I'm only F2P and relying on skills for them
once I get level 30 on my third gengar I can consistently just make pure mushrooms meals during the week regardless of dish type and I'll still get to masters quite fast
I see the same with my ingredients being more valueable than many berries, at low level

