Charge Strength S V Ingredients Magnet S

[round pulsar]

yeah, also I don't have a microsoft office subscription

[willow grove]

Apple or android?

Samsung could get Microsoft apps on thier mobile devices for free

[round pulsar]

I did not know that

Will keep it in mind in case I ever need microsoft office stuff

Oh yeah, did I see you talking about the Helping Bonus subskill?

I know it doesn't modify the visible stat in game, but that probably just means it's happening in the background right?

[willow grove]

Not workingimo

idk can't confirm

[round pulsar]

It's probably applied in a different step that doesn't get applied to the UI, since its a team-wide modifier

wish I had a mon with it at lvl 10 to test

[willow grove]

How would you test it?

[round pulsar]

lots of data, of course

even the help speed S one of my pikachus had is clearly visible in my data

[willow grove]

No i mean i have one

Might just give you clips for info

[round pulsar]

uhh

[willow grove]

How to do it i mean

[round pulsar]

Well, the way I'm tracking my team is literally just logging every help I collect from them, but it's more effort than most people would want to do I think

I have a repeating reminder every hour on my phone, and I hit record and collect. Then later when I have time I count the berries and ingredients and put it in my spreadsheet

I'm kinda working on improving the template at the moment, I can let you make a copy if you feel like doing that, but I'm about at my limit for data entry with just my own team.

It does take time after all

[languid locust]

which app does your vibrations in certain time differences? i want to try out. i never had a dozing sleep.and it sucks without some caterpie

[hearty venture]

I just installed a random Periodic Phone Vibration app

Its very basic, and only allows me to vibrate my phone every set interval, like 1 minute to 10 minute

I found the setting "vibrate every 2 minute for 0.25 second" to work well enough

If you put it on a hard surface, the phone should generate enough movement and noise on its own to maintain the tracking state at dozing

The problem is the end sleep. You need to turn off the vibration and let the phone rest for about 15 minute to be safe

Otherwise, all that dozing won't be registered

[round pulsar]

@hearty venture have you figured out how long you need to leave the phone undisturbed for it to count as "asleep"?

[hearty venture]

I leave it for 15 minutes to be safe

But I have sessions that thinks I fell asleep as fast as 0 minute

Don't share this too much yet, I've yet to finish it. This will be in my upcoming inforgraphics

It is important to let the app fall towards slumber state

That is when the app registers that the user has fallen asleep

If you keep the app in dozing and snoozing level before the app registers the sleep, it adds towards "Time taken to fall asleep" and goes untracked instead

[round pulsar]

ty

[hearty venture]

For Dozing, it is important to have the app go back to slumber again before you end the sleep session

Any dozing state after the last time the app reaches slumber state will be disregarded and untracked

The devs will be fuming when they see these

[languid locust]

They should mix pokemon better. Its so annyoing that dozing is so hard to achieve

[round pulsar]

I get dozing way more than I want lol

[hearty venture]

Dozing is no doubt one of the hardest, and perhaps the unhealthiest to try and achieve naturally

[round pulsar]

[hearty venture]

Which is why I refuse to play this game properly

[languid locust]

Even whe i know i woke up often and slept bad and turned around much it still does not give me dozing

[hearty venture]

When I first tried to achieve dozing manually, I basically set the snooze alarm to activate every 20 minute

It was so tedious and annoying, keeping that up for hours and hours

I then tried a lot of methods to automate it

And only finally discovered how the app tracks sleep recently

There was basically no information out there that goes into the nitty gritty details on how to cheat the system

[willow grove]

I want dozing for caterpie and gastly

[hearty venture]

And when I ask that question on Reddit, everyone is just "Bro, just use the app properly"

[hearty venture]

Well now you know how

I bestow upon thy wisdom

For thou shall not have a disastrous sleep habit

Or the reaper will come early

[round pulsar]

just so you know, if your sleep style is based on deviation from a moving window average, then manipulating your sleep like that might mess up your stats for a bit

[hearty venture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/868309856120078336/1123390956243275857/lv_0_20230627150630.gif

[hearty venture]

My artificial sleep is so heavily one-sided, it'll be fine

[round pulsar]

[hearty venture]

Try deviating my 96% snoozing on an 8 hour record

🗿

[round pulsar]

whoa

[hearty venture]

Deviate this lmao

With this phone vibration method, you can pretty much achieve any sleep type you want with high accuracy

But you still need to know the intricacies

Here is a successful Dozing test

Notice the two 'dips' at the start and end

Here is a failed dozing experiment

I did not have an end sleep session to basically lock down all the dozing session

So the app disregarded all of them, and only takes the slumbering part

Pokemon Sleep is a game where I did everything but sleep

[languid locust]

My account was newly created and i slept for 8 nights + first night where you get 3 kanto starters.
No dozing…
Even when i sleep terrible.

[willow grove]

I forgot about the midday update

I'll start with the ingredients team since it's my favourite one

I just managed to get to master 1 on sunday

lots of cooking and no fav berry all week

it'll be a tough week again on greengrass since there's no fav berry mon that I want to put replacing any of my team

[hearty venture]

Crap, is there an update?

I'm currently in the middle of a sleep tracking session

[willow grove]

free stuff

[hearty venture]

I hope the sleep continues to track and gets saved

Also I'm not sure how they are gonna patch it, since this tracking is very fundamental to their game

At most they can do is readjust how the sleep is tracked, but we will still find a way

Because at the end of the day, this isn't a real sleep tracking app

[willow grove]

I'll try to keep on making Big Malasada to keep leveling it up. latest strength of snorlax

I used up all my spare candy ticket and the free 30 ticket I received from the devs to pump this weppinbell to level 25 so I can unlock potatoes asap

I'll be making gourmet meals soon

since Sunday was the last day where you potentially have a high strength, I decided to do one sleep session and used a frind incense

the hauls I got

so even though i caught both stage one mons at the same sleep session, there is still +-1 level difference as a rank 16

I still think that if your strength is very high then you can just do 2 sleep sessions instead of one as i got less candies compared to the previous day

energy recovered is still capped at 100 even though I have the team buff of 1.12 whereas the xp boost where it can go over 100 even at 100 score

[willow grove]

@frigid frigate follow my thread here if you want. I'm trying to unlock the best ingredients asap as a f2p with 2 accounts

[frigid frigate]

Awesome thanks I will 🙌🏻

[willow grove]

level 25 weppinbell on this account for potatoes

[willow grove]

nearly forgot about the experimental team

managed to get master 1 aswell but mainly berries

latest line up

I've evolved the gastly to haunter so that I could get extra limit

I'll level it up to 30 first before evolving it to gengar so I could unlock mushrooms asap

with the 28% extra xp boost it'll be much faster than normal

latest strength and this account also has desserts but I can't make the same recipes due to not fully having an ingredients team

I'm just power leveling any recipe S that I make with fiery herbs to boost it's final power

this account still has a 21 size pot as I don't think I can sustain if I upgrade to 27

this account has a tough berry selection as well so will rely heavily on unlocking mushrooms and depending on herbs for now

I did one 100 sleep nd used a friend incense to catch these mons

from the ingredient team Sunday sleep

[dry apex]

A tip for me for dozing. If you constantly move on the bed or couch without sleeping it will count towards dozing. It worked for me when I read a book on my bed for like 3 hours before actually going to sleep. Its dishonest but maybe starting the sleep an hour before usual and staying up to watch a movie or something will help register dozing sleep.

[jolly inlet]

my strat is sleeping poorly

[crude glade]

Does the second account help with that goal, or did you just want two?

[willow grove]

I had 3 originally

handed over one as my oldest phone couldn't handle the overnight usage the past few weeks

[willow grove]

yes, I'm close to unlocking potatoes and mushrooms

need to sleep now midnight already in my timezone

laters

[crude glade]

Quick question about this and we can talk about the other thing later

[willow grove]

go

[crude glade]

last couple times I woke up in the middle of the night and tried to do a double, it has forced me to review the paused results before I can initiate the next extra sleep (meaning I need to stay awake and thinking longer than I want to)

Did they change it from what you described in the post I replied to?

or did I screw something up?

[willow grove]

I did one sleep session yesterday since its sunday

not sure as there was an update

that gave rewards

[crude glade]

both of those were pre-update

[willow grove]

should have worked

[crude glade]

also I accidentally stole my premium biscuit away from Monday morning with the timing ()

Alright, go get some good sleep

appreciate you

[willow grove]

bye

[crude glade]

We can always troubleshoot it later

[distant rain]

@willow grove i caught caterpie and slakoth

[nova nebula]

is the best way for long sleep sesh to do just balanced?

[crude glade]

How do you control that?

[willow grove]

nice one 2 more ingredients magnet s aaded to your line up

[distant rain]

But caterpie bad main skill- nature

[hearty venture]

I did the sleep type infographics

I archived all my infographics at

https://discord.com/channels/1129035839398228028/1136183857851412480

[nova nebula]

oh wow phone vibration? jeez

[hearty venture]

My lawyer has advised to take down the infographics

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/868309856120078336/1101146803933548654/lv_0_20230427220352.gif

[nova nebula]

nooooo 😦

was it panders

[hearty venture]

Who is panders

I just took it down because apparently it was against TOS to share how to cheat the system or use 3rd party apps to manipulate sleep

I'll edit my infographics to keep them strictly informative on the mechanics only

I'll remove the parts on teaching players how to achieve it

[languid locust]

Luckily i read it on time. Its impossible for me to get dozing. So i see it legit for me to get those pokemon

[hearty venture]

If you are interested, you can always dm me

[willow grove]

I think I didn't update yesterday for both accounts.

I am start with the ingredients team

current line up

I've temporarily swapped out butterfree for psyduck as I have desserts this week and most of the best recipes needs cacao and the drops from the ingredient magnet S mons are not reliable enough to get cacaos for a meal

I'm getting close to unlocking potatoes and hopefully the strength will scale much faster

latest strength

first session

second session

I've caught the geodude. it'll be a decent mons on taupe when I eventually go there

added to my collection now

next is the experimental team

no change in lineup as its too good

ingredients mons with charge strength S is my second favourite mons after the ingredients magnet s

especially after 3 of them activating their main skill

latest strength is higher than the ingredients team due to multiple times the main skill keeps on activating for 4 members of my squad

sad thing this account has no shinies 😥

first session

second session

nearly forgot I've also critted one of my meals that's why it's strength is much higher compared to the ingredients team

I really badly want dozing for more gastly candies as I'm 2 levels till I'll unlock mushrooms but I've been getting slumbering lately

fiery herbs ftw plus don't forget to keep tapping the fan guys😂

[sterile gorge]

I dont tap the fan just to prove to myself its all in ppls head

Lmaoo

[willow grove]

I know just messing with the people that thinks it actually works

it's does makes the animation much faster tbf

that's why I mainly do it for

I think in the future I might rename both accounts to team mushrooms v team potatoes and see which one can make the best recipes l

[nova nebula]

What’s the fav berries for this line up

[willow grove]

I don't really want slot in anything but I'm still managing to get a high strength due to my cooking skills.😂

gourmet chef in the making

for the ingredients account

basically mons for taupe

I have a few but don't want to switch my current lineup

terrible choices for the experimental team

got none of any mons that even drop a single berry

[willow grove]

@sudden basin FYI

@sudden basin thats pretty much my team last week

[sudden basin]

what recipe were you making?

[willow grove]

my team name is literally it on the team overview

[sudden basin]

the caprese salad?

[willow grove]

yes

click on the reply messages and read along

and watch the clip

[sudden basin]

so would something like this work?

i tried to imitate your team as best i could

[willow grove]

for momoo Caprese salad ?

maybe but that's a bit more flexible to make to soybean with tomato

[sudden basin]

would it be better if i try and alternate between soybean+tomato and the apple cheese salad? idk if i can sustain it though

[willow grove]

Yes if you have enough ingredients

@lavish patio you can also use my pinned sheet and copy it. Then try filling out as much as you can

[willow grove]

Mushrooms V Potatoes

Just changed the title of this thread as I'm getting close to unlocking both ingredients.

We have challenger A aka team potatoes which is the lineup consisting of mainly ingredients magnet S mons

the weppinbell is level 26 and only 4 levels till unlocking potatoes and will have a chance of dropping 4 of them

then we have challenger B aka team mushrooms which is the line up consisting of mainly ingredients specialists with charge strength S mons

one of the haunter is level 28. the reason why is because the team has 28%extra xp boost per session and really does speed up the process.

once unlocked haunter will have a chance of dropping 4 mushrooms aswell

hopefully by next week I'll be able to unlock both ingredients

I might just use my remaining sleep points to buy all the handy candy S from the regular exchange in order to level both mons asap

after that then it's all about making the best recipes using those 2 ingredients.

team A already has leveled up a few recipes from all 3 dish type past level 15 and have some options to make a lot of recipes

However mushrooms have a higher base power than potatoes and with fiery herbs it's a lot of extra boost. also having 2 haunters gives me alot of herbs as both have sub 45min frequency

[willow grove]

OK midday update for team potatoes v team mushrooms

Let's start with team potatoes

latest strength is only 97k at ultra 2

current line up

I've put back butterfree as psyduck was slow at gathering cacao for ne

I keep hitting max inventory as wartortle and eevee keeps on giving me lots of milk

I've managed to get a crit meal

first session

second session

I managed to catch the larvitar as I'm trying to get the "perfect" one

lots of ingredient finder for an ingredients specialists. this one have potential

side note I became closeness 2 with my alt

since its a new level, I'll be tracking how much +1 candies it'll take till I get to level 3 closeness m

I'm still not as fast compared to these two players. They must be "sleeping" alot since the hours are averaging WAY more for a low level rank

Next is the team mushroom

latest strength is 111k at ultra 3

no change with current line up as the team comp is pretty good even though there's no fav berries

charge S mons that are ingredients specialists are S tiers imo

both can provide burst strength unlike berry specialists where its passive BUT relies too much on island preferences

first session

I caught the iggly as I'm trying to have an energy team buff later down the line to complete the team comp and have a sustain to keep the energy high

-nature conflicts with the subskills at later stage but it's fast af at level 10

second session

I think I'll be able to split into 2 sleeps and encounter 6 per session for tonight

I just realised I could rename this thread to team energy v team xp as see which one is better

so far xp with charge S and fiery herbs is the clear winner due to unlocking the "best" ingredients while energy with ingredients magnet S and abundance of ingredients have versatile recipe lists

[crude glade]

I confirmed the fast tapping Mcmandin Method this morning

[willow grove]

crit?

[crude glade]

Yeah, extra tasty procced my moomoo milk into being non-terrible

I never proc before the weekend normally

the difference is clear

[willow grove]

must be soy and non fat

😂

[crude glade]

[distant rain]

@willow grove i caught spheal caterpie slakoth

Totodile igglybuff swablu

I made a berries team but i don't have any ingredients

[willow grove]

are you in cyan this week?

[distant rain]

No still in green

[languid locust]

Lol new name

[willow grove]

midday update for both accounts

nothing much has changed for both

team mushrooms latest strength

team is still the same

charge strength S and the fiery herbs are really carrying this account

I've just been making this meal with herbs as a top up

I tried doing 70-30 for both sleep but my strength still isn't high enough to get 8 encounters on greengrass

I think the min threshold is roughly 16mil+ for 8

first session

second session

next is team potatoes latest strength

team is still the same

I've just been making this meal and trying to level it up as high before Sunday

first session

second session

[distant rain]

Nickname

@willow grove my current team has unique ingredients

I can't able to make recipes

[neon ice]

Does the fiery herb help more with dishes? I’ve tried looking up info on which ingredients give better results and haven’t been able to find anything on specifics

[willow grove]

wow that's a July post. I commend you for reading that far back 😂

it has 130 base power and better than cacao imho as you can catch a ghastly much easier than an absol

other cacao droppers only gives you one

I'd rather have 260 (2*130) than 151

plus gastly can get 4 mushrooms at level 30 and 8 oils at level 60

also you get evo perks 2 times if you evolve from a gastly

[neon ice]

That makes sense, thanks for responding! I’ve been playing since the game came out, but just joined the discord a few days ago. I haven’t caught a Gastly yet, but now I’ll be looking out for them

[willow grove]

don't forget gastly evo line has charge strength S which is a sleeper main skill as it gives you burst strength but is somewhat unpredictable

[neon ice]

Thanks! Is there a list of all the ingredient base power somewhere?

[willow grove]

#1135538369238155284 check the pinned posts

one info graphic and Google sheet

[neon ice]

Which one? It says unknown on your reply

[willow grove]

click the #1135538369238155284 thread

and look for the pinned post

[neon ice]

Got it, thank you so much!

[willow grove]

np

[languid locust]

If you still had your last account you could have done also vs leeks xD

I guess you use the 4 mushroom pokemon and also one of the 3 for potato

[latent marsh]

btw when are you evolving this weepinbel

[willow grove]

after unlocking potatoes

and when I get enough of candies

forgot to update for today

nothing exciting happened for both accounts

so same line up more or less

[willow grove]

team mushrooms has a diglett in the line up with leeks at level 30

also that same diglett has +XP nature but I'm saving it's candies until the xp patch

it's already level 14 and will snowball much faster due to the 28% extra xp boost per sleep and it's nature once it's fixed

[willow grove]

OK Sunday midday update

let's start with team mushrooms

latest strength is 208k at master 1

having double sleep sessions increased my chances of seeing different styles as this account only needs 19 more to unlock pot 5

you'll see later that team potatoes needs 18 while at a higher rank compared to this one

I haven't used any camps or type incenses even once and I still manage to catch up

this PROVES double sleep does have advantage of encountering more and varied styles plus the benefit of maybe seeing a shiny pokemon

current lineup

I could have leveled up to 30 and unlocked mushrooms but when I tried to go past level 30 this message pops up

since I don't want to waste any p xp, I decided not to and I'm trying to get more r xp asap to get over the limitation of being below rank 20

I still have 3 days till my haunter reaches my current level cap so I might use the free focus incense tonight for extra r xp. I need around 6k r xp to get to rank 20 and it's impossible without any focus incense or camp to boost encounters

I decided to upgrade my pot size yesterday even though I could have done it last week

also upgraded my ingredients inventory to 140

no crit meals from breakfast and lunch. highest I've gotten is this and I'm saving up my herbs for next week. plus my ingredients are limited to make any decent recipes as I'm planning to only unlock the "best" ingredients

and have ingredients magnet S mons to drop them for me

basic Kanto starter ingredients with apples due to reward stamp, herbs/mushrooms from gastly evo line and tomato/leeks from diglett evo line

I could also slot in potatoes since bellsprout evo line already drops tomato and potatoes at level 30 then leeks at 60

I was tempeted to unlock cacao as slow evo line drops it along with tails at level 30 but I don't want to dilute the drops from ingredients magnet S mons later down the line. so far herbs have been sustaining me to get to master 1 at green grass even without any fav berries the week

first session

OK from MY historical data it seems like you could get one 4* style after reaching master 1 on greengrass and the lowest I've PERSONALLY seen one is around 12mil+

I finally got dozing after a couple of days of slumbering and managed to get myself a shiny gastly

not worth investing
imo but it's cool to have another herb dropper

it's a full set of herbs as well

second session and I've caught this bellsprout as well

perfect ingredients drops but so so subskills

OK now team potatoes

latest strength is 220k at masters 2

this is why I LOVE Sundays

thanks to increased crit boost for meals and double size pot

I've changed the current line up temporarily to reach this weekly achievement

oops wrong first image

line up is this to get as much figgy berries asap

I've left it to the last day since I don't really mind about not having fav berries for the week

chico and duck is there for extra cacao as I'll explain later on

eevee drops me 11 extra ingredients and I prefer to have it as on my team as its reliable at activating its skill imo

so the reason I need cacao droppers is that the "best" desserts recipes needs it as seen in here

I could still make big Malasada since I've been hoarding and upgraded my ingredients inventory to 200

still needs ALOT of cacao since I have nothing

I've run out of cacaos due to both of this crit meals

recipe level went from 0 to level 15 after critting twice today

first session and caught this growlithe

not better than my 4 gold subskill growlithe with neutral nature but I see potential with the 6% r xp bonus at level 25

another 4* at 15mil+ on 7 encounters. I was trying to see if the 8 threshold on greengrass is 15mil but I think it's around 16mil+

second session nothing much to say

I might be able to do at least 10mil+ if I do equal double sleep for Sunday's sleep and test out my two 4* theory at greengrass

side note I nearly have 2 level 3 closeness with my FAVOURITE double sleeper friends

[languid locust]

If i get a desert week tomorrow ill unlock cacao as well

[willow grove]

I'm hoping to get a waterstone so I can evolve my eevee into a vaporeon

[languid locust]

Ill do the same xD. We both heavily favor valoreon

But first i need a worthy eevee for the stone

Skill+. Ing- nature.
Skilltrigger m. Skill level.

If jolteon /growliths skill can trigger other pokemons skills that would also be nice. But i think its only helps without skills?

[willow grove]

this one has skill level M as level 10 and +ingredient finder nature with -help of speed

[willow grove]

only drops afaik

[languid locust]

I still think - help reduces likelihood of skills as there are less helps to trigger skills

[willow grove]

@serene frigate

[serene frigate]

lmk if u get anything besides a linking cord

so far anyone who has hit cl3 has only got a cord

[willow grove]

really?

that would be handy for my haunters on team mushrooms

[serene frigate]

ye deebs/lex/random guy on reddit

50 linking cords tho? idk about that

[willow grove]

hmmm

maybe because it's first of the evo items on the exchange

did any of those players got another cord after getting another cl3?

[serene frigate]

ye i was gonna say first friend is cord but the reddit dude has 3 cl3 friends

all linking cords

there may some other factor to it

[willow grove]

maybe first 50 is cord?

then fire

[serene frigate]

LMAO

first 50 💀

[willow grove]

I'll update this thread anyways

[serene frigate]

first 5 could be cord and then it swaps

alr just ping me when u hit cl3

[willow grove]

maybe by Tuesday if both of these friends double sleep till then

[dry apex]

Did you identify if there was any specific ratio for double sleep that works best for you? like 3 hours "nap" during the day and then 5.5 at night? Or do you go for 6.5 and 7 since game can record up to 13.5 hours.

[willow grove]

nah going above the 100 score is bad irl for both health and phone battery

my main account (team potatoes) is averaging just below 9 hours sleep per day since I've stated playing

however my alt (team mushrooms) is averaging just below 9.5 hours per day since I always pick up and press "end sleep session" on my main first and leave this account "sleeping" until I finish doing the routine of picking up berries/ingredients, opening all research mails, feeding snorlax and reviewing the actual research

[willow grove]

to answer your question I base the hours sleep according to the "predicted" hours as shown on the pinned sheet

row 3 on the overview tab is my main and row 4 is my alt

that's the latest strength for both and I try to time them about the same

the thresholds need updating like in salty thread but I roughly know how much power I need to aim to get my "predicted" encounters

I'm trying to get 16mil+ on greengrass as I think that's the cut off point from 7 to 8 encounters

[dry apex]

Gotcha. So you have expected minimums to reach the highest amount of encounters between two sleeps and you plug in the minimum points required In order to get the hours value?

[willow grove]

I've had just over 15mil for 7 and I've seen someone with 8 on 16mil

yes but it relies on the accuracy of the thresholds from salty's thread

and I need updating it

the ones in blue are my results

so I kinda know what to expect if I get that power

[dry apex]

ok. thx.

[willow grove]

you could use and copy my sheet if you want but it's still a WIP

I'm trying to do a pivot table to summarise both accounts results since the beginning

but I can't find the time to go all the way back and I fill out for each sessions

I've done most of team mushrooms but I haven't updated the pivot table

[willow grove]

@halcyon forge i normally update here daily but I haven't done it for yesterday

I also try to update the pinned sheet for more info

rows 3 and 4 was my last sleep split. I try to roughly time to wake up at the same

[halcyon forge]

What's your IGN of your accounts? I think I have you on my list already

Wait nvm I have mcmomo

[willow grove]

I have full list already

for both

and I don't want to delete other double sleepers

[willow grove]

update. I've changed my server name to reflect my next level 30 ingredient goal

this diglett from team mushrooms will be the candidate as it has +XP nature along with the 28% extra xp boost from haunter and pika

once the candy bug is patched, I'll spoil this diglett with lots of candies like it's Halloween 😂

then I might try to unlock tails with this slowpoke but I'm hoping to get a higher level one with tails at level 30

[languid locust]

So you need less candy?

[willow grove]

yeah higher level rank = higher level caught/friended mons

on my main I caught a spheal that's level 6 and I'm rank 19

I think that's the only way to save candies. Power level rank via focus incense with camp and any type incense at 8 encounters so that'll give you a total of 10 encounters. This strat should work for players like @frigid frigate, @tardy dirge @rose widget since they can reach masters on Monday/Tuesday. Especially if the mons that they use for sleeping has the extra 6% r xp bonus for all 5 members then it should be gg compared to the rest of us

[tardy dirge]

You want me to keep track of my Mon xp earned during sleep?

[willow grove]

oh no its up to you. as long as the seen numbers, power, camp and incense are filled out as it's easier to determine the thresholds. I was just mentioning a viable strat for p2w players to really snowball ahead by using the 6% extra research xp subskill on all 5 sleeping members. since you'll get faster rank levels if combined with camp, focus and any type incense. that's what I would do to get ahead even faster as the caught mons will be even higher thus less candies needed to level up and you won't be bottlenecked by rank restrictions

[tardy dirge]

Ah I see I see you are right cuz caught mons would be already at a higher level

[willow grove]

update. I haven't really kept up with the updates but I'm still playing. I just couldn't be bothered to post because somethings are repetitive. So from now on I'll just post important milestones or having 3+ mainskills activations to flex both accounts.😂

I'll start off with team potatoes. this week's berries

nothing much to say as I kndt normally build my team around the berries for greengrass. maybe at cyan since this team has a wartortle and a potential Vaporeon

current team levels and overview

Since I don't swap out mons that often they are pretty high for a f2p. Plus doing double sleep along with the "sprint" on mathcord, 3 of my mons are level 22+

I'm just low in shards atm since I use it whenever I get them

Preparing my ingredients inventory for Sunday already. I've been leveling up momoo Caprese salad since I'm back with salads for this week. I think it's recipe is level 25 now

I received 2 linking cords but I have no one to use it on this account

I was so close to getting a vaporeon today since I've been hoarding eevee candies and using it not level up this eevee on my team

There was one day before where I had 62 sleep score. If I had just even 65 back then it would be perfect

latest strength is 90k at great 1 is not bad but could be better

even though strength is less than 100k, I was able to encounter a total of 11 mons for Tuesday already

that's why it's better to stay on greengrass imho for extra candies

my mons level reflect that. it's just I'm bottleneck by shards and will be walled by rank restrictions

next update is for team mushrooms

current team is built to drop as many mushrooms as possible

since I've unlocked it, I'll rely on ingredients magnet S mons to give me more

currently only have 18

I've also upgraded the ingredients inventory for the is account so I could hoard lots of mushrooms

all the mushroom drops I've recorded so far

I just need a few more candies for my first gengar

oh yeah if you level up TOO fast you'll be hit by rank restrictions. this haunter is losing xp gains as I've spent one night sleeping with it to take advantage of its 14% extra xp boost to the rest of the team

I'm just leveling the tomato recipe as I'm saving up both herbs and mushroom for Sunday

also have salads for this team

since this account is much higher compared to my main, I can encounter a total of 12 mons just for Tuesday sleep

that's with no camp or type incenses active

another reason why double sleep is the best min max strat for f2p players. only downside is you need lots of research xp to rank up fast

If the new patch about the bonus biscuit being nerf is true then players will either play less or switch to double sleep imho

latest strength at 114k at ultra 3 on greengrass

forgot the berry and dish for team mushrooms

[sterile gorge]

Are you on a quest to unlock lvl 30 ingredients too?

[willow grove]

Yes

The "best" ingredients

Ive been doing it since the beginning

That's why both teams are built like that and doesn't prioritise fac berry mons

[sterile gorge]

Yooo me too!

#1137120880875540582

Thats my thread for progress

[willow grove]

I literally spent like one day staring at serebii and figuring out the best ones after one week of launch

[sterile gorge]

I have a bellsprout gastly slowpoke and digglet on the same team every night for sleep exp

Potatoes
Mushrooms
Tails
Leeks

I want to 100% note percentage

Would be funny if i get everything and sleep tips is at 51/52

[willow grove]

I only unlocked certain ingredients on team mushrooms

As it dilutes the drops from ingredients magnet s mons

[sterile gorge]

Thats so smart

Im trynna unlock everything at least once for that 100%

Also working on a swablu on the side

[willow grove]

But team potatoes has a larger recipe list

[sterile gorge]

This is all on separate accounts?

[willow grove]

Yeah 2

Main(potatoes) big recipe list with various ingredients

Alt(mushrooms) small recipe with less ingredients

[sterile gorge]

Imagine getting tails and minimal ingredient unlocks to always get tails from ingredient magnet

[willow grove]

Thats my next goal but i want a higher slowpoke for efficient

[languid locust]

I do a minimal magnet strat with 5 ingredients only. #1138573130881831003 Maybe later ill add tails, but midterm not on my wishlist

[willow grove]

I think best investment is ingredients inventory

I have 220 for both accounts and nearly full half the time

I need more spaces

[languid locust]

Agree

Only thos who only focus berries will have constant empty ingredients bag 😛

[willow grove]

Team update

team mushrooms have a new pfp unlocked

lots of mushrooms and latest strength

I've decided to upgrade the ingredients inventory to 260

double sleep sessions

team potatoes also have a new pfp unlocked

latest strength and lots of ingredients as well

I keep selling milk and honey as my inventory can't keep up with the procs of all ingredients magnet S mons

unfortunately I don't have enough diamonds to keep upgrading my inventory

double sleep sessions

my weppinbell is level 29 and I could unlock potatoes now but I don't think I can sell other ingredients to accommodate for it and I'm saving it's candies so I can evolve it to victreebel

the difference between strength for both accounts is basically the charge strength S procs from gengar as I can sometimes get an average 1k extra burst strength

[willow grove]

team update

hoarding mushrooms for sunday

team mascot is putting in work gengar=🐐

I did one 100 sleep session as I had a bad history of 2 sessions from the previous maintenance so I didn't risk it

team potatoes is lagging behind but I'm also hoarding ingredients

team mascot is dropping a lot of tomatoes plus Vaporeon=🐐

Im always low on oil and I don't want to sub in a croagunk just to get more

did 1 sleep session as same reason from team mushrooms

still couldn't get over 100 energy even with energy bonus

it's only good if paired with -energy nature

forgot to post from team mushrooms. NOW this one stacks with both +-XP nature

this will make my diglett level up much quicker along with next week's event

[willow grove]

OK midday update. No major news. I'm still hoarding as much ingredients for both accounts ready for Sunday boost

team mushrooms line up changed a little bit to give me as much rare ingredients drops as possible

latest inventory and strength. so many mushrooms and herbs

ill try to make this recipe for both accounts sicne they both have salads

with only 54 size pot, I'll just add mushrooms to top it off

this account gets so much strength from gengars charge strength S mainskill its crazy. that's why it's 200k at master 1 with barely any fav berries

I might try to do a single 100 sleep so I can reach rank 20 and not waste xp on my gengar since its stuck to level 30 for 5 days now

nearly forgot caught a shiny wobbuffet. nothing but a trophy collection

also encountered 7+7 from double session

team potatoes line up only slightly changed as it increased the # of extra ingredients when the ingredients magnet S mons skill procs

since I caught this spheal and replaced my previous one

well I caught 2 but the second one is not up to my standards

FL10+ DOES give a gold subskill at level 10

latest inventory and strength

this account is only 180k at ultra 5 as there's no charge strength S to give it extra burst strength

inventory has lots of cacaos and will be the top up compared to the mushrooms from the other account

same target recipe for Sunday as its salad

I have no use of them yet on this account

got my 3rd cord today

only 7+6 for double session since there's no less strength

[willow grove]

oh you're not here @cyan cradle to witness my greatness😂

[cyan cradle]

Let me catch up haha

@willow grove Give me a summary of what you are trying to accomplish/testing. I need to put what I am seeing into context.

[willow grove]

TLDR:Team Mushrooms(gengar) with charge strength S mons V team potatoes (victreebel -in the future) with ingredients magnet S mons

May the best ingredients account wins pretty much

but in the mean time I have ingredients magnet S mons with gengar to drop as much mushrooms asap

[willow grove]

midday update

team potatoes first. nothing new. no crit meals and highest I've had so far is

only 10k for size 54 and mainly cacao as a top up

latest levels for line up

I've unlocked 240 ingredients inventory now so more hoarding

double sleep sessions

[willow grove]

latest strength

as you can see I still managed to get to master 2 at greengrass with no fav berry. I only done one to unlocked mago so I could have enough diamonds to upgrade the ingredients inventory

team mushrooms line up has change

I caught this decent gastly which will be pumped with candies as I just got another cord

also sleep xp at 25 so that'll be a total of 42% extra xp boost when I unlocked it

plenty of mushrooms

double sleep session

latest strength

this account is 35k+ higher due to the charge strength S activating a lot from gengar and the added mushrooms on top of the regular meals

no crit meal as well and this 12k for a 54 pot size is not bad

this account had a higher level recipe and ingredients top up so it boosted the difference even more

plus I passively achieved the fav berry task thanks to my diglett with 186

so far team mushrooms is winning as I haven't unlocked potatoes yet for the other team

[languid locust]

Would be interesting ehat the end of week shows you. Probably berry still higher because skill is countef in there too

[willow grove]

is it? we'll see tomorrow

[languid locust]

They should make 3 separations. Dish/berry/skill

[willow grove]

nah thats team potatoes, the split has been in favour for meals for 2 weeks now

team mushrooms on the other hand is still in favour of berries since the beginning of the account

13 more levels till leeks for team mushrooms. that'll definitely snowball my meals and every recipe that I'll make in the future

[willow grove]

@royal oracle FYI @vapid patio

[dry apex]

@willow grove I didn't play for about 4 hours but I just proc'd my butterfree

[willow grove]

@wispy cedar fyi

I haven't updated yesterday as I was testing to see which line would suit me this week

[willow grove]

oh yeah mine activated as well

good for now

[wispy cedar]

Interesting, thanks !

[willow grove]

too long now but really good insight

[willow grove]

OK I'll just a midday update since I forgot to do it yesterday as I was testing out an overflow mechanic that I knew a few weeks back but no one seems to be doing it and sharing in public afaik. But since there's an event where your drowsy power can be doubled on the full moon day, it's best to share this method once again. People don't seem to read my post from WAY back in first week of August where I started using this method to get to master 3 with around 274k strength on a f2p account that had no camp and whistles used. as seen here

this strat is very good for berry specialists like the pika line as I've used it previously on a fave berry week.

basically all you need to do is to NOT PICK UP all the ingredients/ berries that your mons drops and make sure it's limit is full before being afk/sleeping for too long. This will ensure that the "sneaky snacking" or overflow will be 100% berry drops as ingredients are not included. So all you have to do is to open the app and then the overflow pop up will appear telling you how much each mons fed snorlax while you were away and MAKE SURE NOT to click away/close the app as you might think that it's not working properly as experienced by @round pulsar

If you've done this accidentally, then the next time you open the app you might be confused why there was no animation that the strength grew but if you have taken a clip/screenshot then you'd see that it did go up according to the values shown previously. Also if the values didn't go up, then you'd need to click to a different menu for a while where a loading screen appears then go back to the home page where snorlax is at the center then the overflow page will pop up again with the same amounts. take note this will take a minute or two

[round pulsar]

(I didn't click away or close the app, it just doesn't show the sneaky snacking dialogue half the time for some reason)

[willow grove]

I'll show clips/screenshots now from my alt from yesterday initial testing

[willow grove]

do the latter method as I've explained if this occurs

[languid locust]

I also may get a more clear idea from your recordings. Little confused still

[willow grove]

this is the initial lineup I've used with 0 energy on most mons. the testing started with pichu and pika since I have greppa and both had full limit

the overflow pic was roughly more than 1 hour

@frigid frigate this is where you should copy and follow

2 hours after the last pic

I needed the herbs for meals but I decided to pick up all mons berries/ingredients except pika and pikachu for a controlled test since they already have 0 energy and full limit

another 2 hours+ after the last pic. toto and butterfree have now full limit

there were other times that I've overstayed on the app and when I came back to the main home screen this popped up as I've mentioned previously

[languid locust]

So what is the benefit?

[willow grove]

the butterfree amount didn't sync with the server as my strength was the same as I've mentioned previously as well. This pic was 1 hour after the pichu pic

[willow grove]

100% berry overflow and no ingredients

like when.you wake up and click all of the ingredients and berries. this one doesn't have any ingredients

ONLY good for charge strength S berry specialists as no extra ingredients procs as you'll see later on

[graceful canyon]

does this work as efficiently when the mon doesn't have a fav berry for snorlax?

[willow grove]

yes I'll get there

[languid locust]

Why do i not want ingredients?

[willow grove]

I forgot to mention butterfree is not a fave berry that why it's contribution is lower than the others

[willow grove]

for pure raw strength boost

fave berry specialists eclipses any ING mons with barely any management

you don't even need to feed snorlax

anyways back on the pics

this is what I normally do to check for skill procs

this was straight after the last pic

I don't pick them up

mushroom top up is very nice

oh yeah the odd difference on my strength are due to my meals yesterday

just before I slept for my first session I took this clip to note the energy levels

I decided to swap out toto and the pichu as I couldn't waste xp and want this gastly as another gengar in the future and diglett for unlocking leeks

pika and butterfree had full limit with no ingredients before sleeping

after sleeping for about 4 hours this is the clip I took and there was a glitch after butterfree activated it's skill. maybe because the limit was full already and app couldn't handle it. also my strength was stuck at ultra 1 as 95k is supposed to be ultra 2

I closed the app and took a clip again then my strength synced to the servers after snorlax ate a berry. this was the overflow originally

like I said it'll pop back up again if you've missed it the first time by just closing the app

take note that butterfree still had it's 8 extra ingredients along with 26 lum berries above it's limit @round pulsar

clip of energy levels and full limit for butterfree and pika just before 2nd sleep session

butterfree still carrying way over it's limit with no penalty

overflow and clip after waking up

6k overflow for just over 4 hours 30 minutes

so in conclusion 10k overflow with one mon being a fave berry (pika) and other just normal berry specialists (butterfree)

100% berry drops for overflow for just over 8.5 hours gives an average of 1.1k strength per hour

that's only 2 mons aswell. Imagine if all 5 mons are fave berries that are also berry specialists at 100 energy @frigid frigate for atleast 8.5 hours

40k overflow?

maybe more if berry finder s

if anyone was wondering the hauls for both sleeps

relatively decent hauls for Monday with 11 encounters for extra candies

no camp or any incenses used

so if this can be done while sleeping imagine the possibilities for someone with resources to just keep using pillows during the day to keep at 100 energy and just clicking to proc skills every 4 hours or so

@frigid frigate i really want you to try and see if it's cheaper than using whistles

I've been tracking today's overflow every hour or so

this is what I started with today I've swapped out gastly as its mainly there for xp when sleeping and used a cyndaquil thats also a fave berry

Close to 100 energy for all

butterfree really carrying over it's limit

TIP if you don't need extra ingredients use your mon as a storage

extension of your inventory if you're stingy enough to upgrade it

all overflows I've taken a pic so far

I NEVER COLLECT for 100% berry overflow during the day

I only pick up from my ING mons for meals

energy check after 4 hours

take note I've specifically used charge strength S mons for extra raw strength without the need to click any extra ingredients

except butterfree

and I've just taken this after nearly 1 hour 30 mins of me rambling about this method

butterfree really trying to prove it is S tier. by carrying over it's limit for more than 12 hours with no penalty

[frigid frigate]

Alright I will start it, I collected my initial pickup but I’ll keep energy above 80 and not collect any overflow all day

[willow grove]

please take pics and clips of energy levels

I think it does matter

and feedmore overflow

I would post the same thing for my main account but it's just the same thing all over again

I'll just add that you can get overflow for a short time for people that wants the dopamine rush @nova nacelle 😂

@olive epoch yes

[nova nacelle]

LISTEN pokemon sleep has taken me over 🤣 still haven't had overflow yet, but i'll check again in half an hour because then it's time for snorlax's dinner and see if i've had sneaky snacking

[willow grove]

my main account is not as good for overflow as the fave berries are not suitable for a full ingredients magnet S lineup

I'll just post pics all I ve taken so far

and that's the latest one

@nova nacelle the 240 ones are from butterfree with me being in the app for 5 mins and went back to home screen

[nova nacelle]

oooooh not bad at all yeah

[willow grove]

get your dopamine that way

[nova nacelle]

only my main has 1 fave berry, the rest is all garbage (like yache/pecha/pamtre on an acount where i have none of those)

so i'm only gonna be able to try it on my main

[willow grove]

oh yeah forgot to flex my new pfp

[nova nacelle]

but can't wait to see it

oh man, chonky boy

good boi too

[willow grove]

oops wrong one

this one showing off just after my first session

this account gives a lot of extra ingredients but lack raw berry power

[willow grove]

another one for my alt

oh I forgot to go down for cyndaquil

@cyan cradle i forgot to tag you in this long rant I did

[willow grove]

start from here @cyan cradle

[olive epoch]

So the app has to be open, in back ground or closed( or is it the same)

[willow grove]

could be open but not needed as the overflow will pop up if you're ingame for too long and go back to the main home screen

not needed in background as drains battery

easy to just time the 4 hours research mails/meals and try to proc skills for other mons

[olive epoch]

My Makey(whose inventory seems to be full) is not sneaky snacking so I don’t know

[cyan cradle]

Wow, so much good work here! I read through all of it and I am practically sweating haha.

@willow grove I did have one question, how do you know berry overflow is 100% of help collection? What method did you use to compare berry help from manual vs overflow collection?

[willow grove]

wait for a few mins then log back in the game

[cyan cradle]

Did you just take an average berry strength gain over a controled time period?

[willow grove]

@cyan cradle ill use this an as example since its the latest one

no its 100% berry drops

[cyan cradle]

I get that the drops are 100% berries, what I am suggesting is that berry overflow might only count a percentage of the berry help, some factor that is less than one.

[willow grove]

so for pika breakdown it's level 21 and greppa has base power of 45. overflow formula is ceiling= ((base * island boost (NEED to round this number up first)) * berry amount)) * (1 OR 2 (THIS depends if fave or not))

[autumn leaf]

What about skills? If I click on a mon to check for skills but change menus before taking the berries, does the mon actually take back all it's berries and ingredients and stays full?

[willow grove]

you didn't read the whole thing

[autumn leaf]

No, not the whole thing

[willow grove]

@autumn leaf

[autumn leaf]

So the answer is yes

Never pick berries from berry Mons, that's the conclusion

[willow grove]

anyways 708 is made up of 45 (base)*1.3 (my island boost) rounded up which is 59 then *2 (for berry specialist) which is 118 then *2 for fave berry which is 236

since 708 is total then it took 3 helps over that period of time as 708/236=3

[autumn leaf]

Thank you for the findings 💯

[willow grove]

yeah that's not accurate

[cyan cradle]

The word "some" gives me pause.

[willow grove]

but results is 100%

I'll try to calculate for butter free

actually I'll do it for your mons

from the ones you've shown me

can I post it here?

@cyan cradle

what's the level of your teslachu and your island boost this week

[cyan cradle]

Absolutely

One sec

Island boost is 20%

[willow grove]

is that BFS?

numbers are way too much same as vell

27 exact helps for teslachu

[cyan cradle]

Do you want me to measure overflow and starting energy for a specified time period?

I wish Tesla had one speed+ sub

[willow grove]

9396=(481.2) rounded up so 583(BFS) so 174*2(fave) so 348

[cyan cradle]

This is my starter btw haha

[willow grove]

9396/348=27

[cyan cradle]

I get that you always end up on an integer value of helps, this decent evidence.

The problem is you can not explicitly measure how many helps occurred during a given time period.

As in # of help should be a know value.

[willow grove]

that's why I try to divide per hour

[cyan cradle]

Then you would take overflow gain / # of help /Island bonus/fav berry

[willow grove]

or berry raw power per hour for each mon

@round pulsar has it documented better than on excel

[cyan cradle]

The total should equal 3 base greppa berries

Since you always get an integer value, I am fairly conviced overflow is 100% efficient

[willow grove]

no as help per houris much better gauge of how effective/efficient that particular mon is

I don't have tessa's file as it clearly shows you the breakdown much easier

[cyan cradle]

I wish number of help per hour could be calculated

[willow grove]

you can

how long did you sleep?

just divide total help for each mons/total hours

divide that by 27 for teslachu

[cyan cradle]

Sorry let me clarify, I want to be able to predict the #of help/hr for a given starting energy value over a specified period.

As in I do not measure it, I can predict the value with certainty ahead of time.

[willow grove]

you need to confirm if energy is a factor first

Im currently letting vell test it for me as he has the resources to use pillows

plus he has a full pika squad with BFS raichu that's just a bit better than yours😜

[cyan cradle]

The eq would look something like this:
Average energy factor * base help freq * period of help = # of help

[willow grove]

also frequency is another factor to take in consideration

I think they have something like that going on in mathcord

all I know is hard facts and pure results that it works.

for now...

until they patch it

[cyan cradle]

Ya my BFS Raichu is really not great haha

But BFS Riachu is so good it just overshadows everything else haha

[languid locust]

So your suggestion is to not collect berries, sneaky snack then uses the night time efficiency of 100% energy no matter what your current energy is now?

[cyan cradle]

This quilava with fav berry does not beat non-fav berry BFS Raichu

That is how broken BFS Raichu is haha

I tested this last week on Taupe

[willow grove]

yes

[willow grove]

but YOUR Team is mostly ingredients magnet S mons

won't work well

only for berry specialist that are preferably fave berries

it's like my main account

only have 80k+ as of now

[languid locust]

I have 3 pikas, a butterfree and a chico now. Its pika berry week again…

[willow grove]

DO IT NOW

first part of event is part of Tuesday sleep

[dry apex]

Butterfree procd again today

[frigid frigate]

Alright started at 10:27 and just got my raichu to fill out and they are starting to sneaky snack, I will grab recording every hour

[willow grove]

oh tessa told me before that if you press and hold on one of your mons on the overview screen, it allows you to scroll at each one

try it

the dopamine when charge strength S procs 😘

[frigid frigate]

I’ll have to try that haha

[willow grove]

that pillow overcharge will stay after closing app and afk for a while?

[frigid frigate]

No idea

We shall see lol

Just trying to keep above 80

[olive epoch]

470k on Tuesday… that’s so op ahahah, and that shiny kanga is so beautiful

[willow grove]

whistles

[frigid frigate]

I used 23 whistles just for this week

[olive epoch]

It’s still impressive

[frigid frigate]

Testing cause I need more higher drowsy data to see if I can find multiple 4 * styles

It is a good team for whistles

[olive epoch]

That team with bfs on the raichus is a dream

[olive epoch]

Got it

[frigid frigate]

1 hour later

[willow grove]

3 hours 20 mins after my last pic

lol the level 3 cyndaquil is on par with butterfree as its a fave berry even though there is a 20+ level gap

energy check after dinner

wow 6k for a 27 pot size

got my 3rd cord

I'm still leveling up my potential 2nd gengar

[olive epoch]

Is it not random The 3rd reward?

[willow grove]

nope

[olive epoch]

Oh so we will have like 50 cord

[willow grove]

yes start catching alot of gastly now😂

that's what I've been doing recently since the cord have been confirmed as fixed

[languid locust]

Ill try to keep it full. But i might take some time to get full

[olive epoch]

Random evolution item would have a lot more sense ahahah wtf were they thinking about

[frigid frigate]

Hour later

[willow grove]

so you reroll for greppa every week right? @frigid frigate

[frigid frigate]

I have so far, but did go to taupe once

Hour later

[willow grove]

damn

[willow grove]

did you manage to do alright there?

what was your lineup?

I think this method will give you a head start

or do you have a team ready for tundra?

[frigid frigate]

It was much slower, this was my team.

[willow grove]

have a full limit on all mons on Sunday night before sleeping on the specific island you want the overflow to transfer

[frigid frigate]

Ya I’m using full spheal team for tundra, Im debating if I want to swap them in during sleep exp bonus at night this week to boost them up or if I just keep raichus in

[willow grove]

oofff only 2 fave berries

[frigid frigate]

Ya it was rough

[willow grove]

have 5 spheal team ready at level10?

[frigid frigate]

Yep

No bfs but decent

[willow grove]

thing is spheal is easy and fast to have it's limit full on Sunday night

so lots of overflow if you start at full limit beofre sleeping

[frigid frigate]

My raichu was keeping ahead of everyone though

[frigid frigate]

That is good to know

[willow grove]

yeah def tundra but the scaling is so high there

[frigid frigate]

Yea I gotta get them up to sealo

[willow grove]

use spheals with low inventory

I have FL11

[frigid frigate]

And quickly get to FL10

I’m at 6 or 7

And I get slumbering a ton

[willow grove]

this is my hauls

I was preparing already for tundra when I knew I it'sfixed ice type island

this one is my main account though with lots of ingredients magnet S mons

[frigid frigate]

Ya I’ve been looking forward to snowdrop for a while I like walrein and then also bonus altaria is there also cause I like dragons

Still hoping for psychic island though

[willow grove]

I think you should try this method on Sunday night so atleast you'll get a head start on tundra

on 5 spheals

with near 100 energy before you sleep

[frigid frigate]

Ya I’m going to

[willow grove]

then use whistles on top of 100% berry overflow 24/7

not sure if picking up extra ingredients is worth it after magnet procs though as rawst is top 3 berry and eclipse oil a lot

[frigid frigate]

63 minutes later

[willow grove]

now we see some true 100% berry overflow

have 4 mons doing it now

each help will eclipse 1 apple drop

so roughly 5k per hour so far with diminishing energy

when it's frozen it'll get 40k+ for 8-9 hours

OK I'm off to bed now @frigid frigate thanks for your cooperation and updating with the overflow test

[frigid frigate]

1 hr 20 mins later

[frigid frigate]

Whoops forgot to post this, it was 60 mins after last one

[round pulsar]

damnn

this was 1.5 hours for me

it's crazy how bfs seems to increase sneaky snacking more than you would think

my bfs butterfree seems to double my regular ones if not more

this was overnight snacking, (after I collected inventories before sleeping, because I wanted the ingredients)

the bfs butterfree is nearly triple the other two

but it is higher level so I should really calculate the helps to get a better idea of the difference

[round pulsar]

did you make a support ticket? If you send them your 3x link cable screenshots perhaps it will help push them to change it

[frigid frigate]

68 mins after last screenshot, gonna have one more before top off energy and going off to bed

[frigid frigate]

Ya bfs just seems crazy good

[nova nebula]

are cords confirmed to be the only reward for level 3 friendship?

[round pulsar]

It's all everyone seems to be getting

[sterile gorge]

yes

its designed that way

link cord back in the gameboy days used to be a way for friends to link their gameboys

this is probably a way of saying "level up your friendship and get a link cord"

@nova nebula

i think its ass as nice at it is

[willow grove]

I'll do a midday up date later on for both accounts but I'd just like a shout out to @willow grove for giving me my 4th cord😂🤔

[willow grove]

I don't want to I want my army of gengars and slowking😂

[round pulsar]

But 50 of themm

[willow grove]

25 each

and if alakaxam will be released in the future even better

I feel like it'd be a mago berry specialists

actually no 3 stage cord evo line has been both ING mons so far

so it'll probably be another ING mon

with charge strength S like the other 2

[willow grove]

my main butterfree hasn't activated for more than 2 days now. the alt butterfree only did it once even at full limit. it's still currently carrying 34=26+8 extra ingredients

[willow grove]

try scrolling up next time to include the total amount. people don't want to add it individually

[round pulsar]

oh true

I just thought the total didn't matter much

[willow grove]

what is it for both as I don't want to add 😂

[frigid frigate]

Well that was a nice increase lol

[willow grove]

gyat dayum but I did say 40k+

now the TRUE 24/7 100% berry overflow starts

[frigid frigate]

Ya it shall be interesting I mean could get over 100k easily from Berry snacking

In total

[willow grove]

hmm you could actually test for help frequency now

since its constant and only a few variables

would you mind changing the names of your mons so we can actually tell who's more efficient?

[frigid frigate]

I can do that

[willow grove]

so both raichu has same level?

and not conflicting subskills or nature?

before all were different now 2 have the same

unless one leveled up during this sleep

[frigid frigate]

They are all named differently

Ya 2 raichu same level

[willow grove]

so the last clip you posted before this recent one, did you go to sleep straight after when they all had 87 energies?

[frigid frigate]

But different nature the one that is same is lvl 18

And 17

No I boosted them all to 100

[willow grove]

hmm

interesting

overcharge?

[frigid frigate]

I mean they were over 100 but normally that just goes down to 100

But maybe behind scenes stays above 100 🤷🏻‍♂️

[willow grove]

what's your average previous overflow when you cleared all limits before going to bed?

and the average total amount you normally collect after waking up

sorry too many questions

[frigid frigate]

Like around here is my normal

And no worries that is the part about gathering data it useless if no one asks questions haha

[willow grove]

but at 0 energy? or full?

[frigid frigate]

Like 10%

[willow grove]

interesting

I'm guessing raichu1 has better speed because of nature or just 1 level gap?

[frigid frigate]

Just level gap

[willow grove]

you record how much you normally collect after waking up?

[frigid frigate]

Yes on excel sometimes pics

[willow grove]

I'm just trying to confirm if 24/7 is actually better

[frigid frigate]

Brb

[willow grove]

ok

[frigid frigate]

Still gonna be gone lol longer than I thought but at least here my first go (had other sneaky snacking when changed name)

[willow grove]

what's hb?

nvm helping bonus

[willow grove]

hmm you can test for helping bonus to see if it's actually working properly in the background like camp. you have camp active right? @frigid frigate. would it be additive or multiplicative?

[frigid frigate]

Ya I have camp active

Unknown if additive or multiplicative seems lots of people have been trying to figure out but haven’t landed on anything concrete yet

this is my normal sneaky snacking and initial pickups for a week

if no note it was good camp and like 10%ish energy

[willow grove]

what's this week so far with the new strat?

another question any of your charge strength S skills activated at FULL limit?

[frigid frigate]

i dont believe so which i was gonna bring that up lol, which this is the first morning i haven't had at least 1 skill proc, and usually i get about 3/5 to proc once wake up

[willow grove]

hmm interesting same for full limit mons

as I only collect form my other ones

I'm just about to do an update and will try another test to compare for speed with my multiple spheals

from my main

OK midday update

after all the testing for 100% berry overflow for berry specialists, I can say that IT IS MUCH BETTER than gathering berries/ingredients as of now thanks to @frigid frigate for helping by using pillows to keep close to 100 energy for all his mons

OK so now I'm trying to see if speed is actually helping to get more overflow by using the same mons with different speed.

team potatoes current line up just for daytime

so 2 spheal has +speed, 1 with -speed and one neutral one

they all have roughly the same energy so it'll kinda be fair and all have full limit after I've put them on after I woke up this morning.

one spheal is carrying over it's limit after activating its main skill which I didn't collect

since most things are constant and only level, energy and nature is different it'll be interesting to see the difference after I check after 4 hours when the clip was taken. I like to time going in the app for the 4 hours research mail cooldown

I have another spheal with +speed and speed M unlocked but it had low energy

I'll test that one on a different batch of spheals as I have 11 in total

since I'm taking about team potatoes, I actually unlocked it after leveling up after my first session

this is just before I slept for my first session

haul and overflow

this butterfree hasn't activated it's skill after more than 36 hours now

after having a full limit since then

unlocked potatoes with 2 ingredients magnet procs

is achieved 4,700 RP milestone

14+11=25 extra ingredients for just 2 mons 👌

just before my 2nd session

hauls after waking up from 2nd session with and overflow

since both sleep sessions were about 50% it's just roughly 4 hours 15mins for each one and it shows as butterfree have the exact overflow of 1,920

even though it gained 58 energy, this doesn't seem to affect night time overflow @frigid frigate

since when sleeping energy is frozen. I don't know how the help frequency is affected by energy @round pulsar @vestal walrus @dire hornet might be able to chime in

Vaporeon with 2 procs now

energy check and collecting after waking up. blastoise still has 88 energy even after the 12% extra energy boost from weppinbell as it has - energy nature

no potatoes from ingredients magnet drops so far

this was the first time I put the 4 spheals at 100 energy and only one with 93

this was the overflow after just less than 4 hours after the previous collecting clip

its close to the 1920 for 4 hours 15 mins so meaning the help is constant and doesn't factor in energy levels

I was in the app for too long and got this mini overflow after going back to the main screen

[frigid frigate]

89 mins after last one

I’m gonna let energy drop and see how that effects things they are 84 right now

[willow grove]

I've been getting a few 240 overflow from butterfree which means that the minimum help is 2 since 240= ((48 * 1.25) * 2) * 2 (HELP AMOUNT)

[willow grove]

try setting the same interval

so it's constant

[frigid frigate]

Yea I had alarm set every hour but had to do something that cut into that

[willow grove]

this also could mean that the minimum cooldown for help is around 5 mins @nova nacelle you can try being in app for 10 minutes

I'll try to clip me being in the app for too long next time but I think it'd be too long to upload

[willow grove]

so far looking back at your hourly check in, it seems your squad gives roughly 7.5k strength per hour

that's 180k per day

in your current levels

that's master 1 on greengrass

I mean close to it

got closeness 3 to my alt

4 cords as well on this account

I got no use atm for them

actually there's another 240 so that'll make 1,920 for butterfree IF i add 3

oh yeah extra help made it 2040

since minimum is 2

interesting

OK enough with team potatoes

OK same test with team mushrooms daytime line up

roughly 75 energy for all with pika and pichu -speed nature and one pichu neutral

I don't have as much pichu on this account for an extensive test

I don't think the other pichu has full limit since there was no overflow

it's probably the slow one

or just unlucky with that apple drop that made room for more berries

butterfree still has a total limit of 34 since 26+8 extra ingredients. I think the penalty is not being able to activate skill but needs more time to confirm @frigid frigate

no procs for more than 24 hours

other overflow for roughly 4 hours interval after double sleep

roughly 10k+ which was the same as yesterday initial testing meaning it's constant

energy check just before 1st sleep

collection after 1st sleep

energy check before 2nd sleep

had 2 mini overflow while being in app for too long

twice for both mons that had full limit

it was literally one after the other

about 5 mins difference

my butterfree had it's overflow first since its faster than my pika?

needs more in app overflow @nova nacelle this could be your little dopamine and test for us😂

still 2 helps as minimum